April 10, 2025 • 17 mins
Today on the show Loren speaks on Keri Hilson opening up about regretting singing a song that was a diss to Beyonce. Also Loren gives the updates on Kenya Moore exposing another woman and breaks down the meaning of revenge porn and sexual assault.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaks to the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God and
guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the
third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming
back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Pullman
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(00:21):
We got the R and B Money podcast with taking
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm a homegrew that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
If you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can't even.
All right, y'all, I am in here. Taylor is here.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Taylor made it the producer of the Latest with Laura
La Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This is my first time filming the podcast from the
iHeart and Breakfast Club studios because I got a lot
going on today. I'm gonna be a bet shooting the
BT Talk show that I do what you guys can
find on YouTube and it will soume be on BT Plus,
and then I have a red carpet event and then
I'm outside tonight for a friend's birthday. So I need
(01:33):
to get this in when I can get it, and
we're gonna do the video, but the video will be
a bit different than this. But y'all are in the
best place because, as you guys realized yesterday, if you
watched my video upload on Lauren La rose A TV
or the Black Effect YouTube channel, you probably realized that
I gave y'all little video, but the full episodes only
happen over here on the audio side. So stick with me,
share this, tell a friend, and tell a friend. Bring
(01:54):
it on in. Now, let's get to the Latest, because
y'all know I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit
about every everything and everybody. But we got to talk
about me right now, because let me tell y'all, Miss
Carry Hilstaid, Miss Carry Baby Dang, I.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Still tell her what you loving at? I still can sing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I got a Billboard recognized hit, The Job Is Mine
by Branica.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know Billboard covered that. No, that's Billboard cover.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We didn't make the chart or nothing like relax, but
Billboard did talk about it. I said recognize. I ain't
say charting, okay, but yeah. So Carry Holston was here
at the Breakfast Club and we talked to her about
a bunch of different things. But the biggest thing, of course,
when talking about Carry Holston coming back to music after
what like fourteen fifteen years her last drop was in
(02:42):
twenty eleven, is the whole Beyonce debacle, the back and forth.
So in context and a little bit of background for
those who do not know Carry Holston, you know, I
don't have to explain who Carry Hoilston is. She has
major songs. She has written for major celebs as well.
But she there was a song that leaked back in
(03:02):
two thousand and nine. It was the Turning Me on
record that Cary Hilson had moving at that point. It
was a remix to that song. Now the song was leaked, right,
so she had always carry Hilson, had always stood on Yo. I.
You know the song was leaked. It wasn't something I
was supposed to come out. And you know she had
said that, you know, she there was no smoke with Beyonce,
(03:24):
and I know she had talked about meeting Beyonce, and
you know, they didn't really get to talk about it.
They didn't talk about it, but Beyonce introduced herself. So
of course when Beyonce beyonceild if I'm speaking Beyonce into
my interview, existence, God, let me get that. And I
want to mention in the song. We talked about some
of the lyrics up here. There was a part of
(03:44):
the song where she's like carry Hilton. The disc is
like the woman she's referring to. She's talking about this
woman needing to go have some babies. She's talking about
the woman needs to move herself to the left. And
this song was after Beyonce's irreplaceable to the left, to
the left, so it was easy like, oh, that's what
she's talking about. There were other parts of the song too,
(04:05):
where other people had said that you know, they you know,
said that there were other women in the industry at
that time that Cary Hilson was referring to. But of course,
y'all know how people don't play about b So she
went through turbulence because of this. Now, moving this on forward,
when Carry Hilson was here at the Breakfast Club, she
told us this story about the song.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I was young, I'm super young. I felt I had
no power. I felt I had no choice. But I
did record mine my version, which had nothing like that
in it. It was on subject song is about men,
and it leaked like days after I did it. But
he promised me that wouldn't happen. So it leaked and
that was that. And I protected him. I protected the
(04:45):
girl that wrote it, who went on to become famous.
I protected everyone in the story. So I had to
eat that and I am still eating it to this day.
But that is definitely a regret of not fighting even stronger.
But I again, and to not stand up for my
that was a shame that I wore. Was like I
should have fallen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now, when Carrie Holston decided in that interview that she
was not going to reveal who the writer was, I googled, y'all,
I'm sitting on I literally I didn't have my computer
cars in the shop, computers in the car, but I'm
on my phones and y'all will see me in that
moment on my phone because I'm trying to look up, well,
who was the writer on the song? And I don't
know if because it was leaked and you know how
it was placed where it was.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Leaked, writing credits were prevalent or like what.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I also went to Twitter as well, and in that moment,
I didn't know who she was talking about, and then
she said, I'm not going to reveal who the writer
is because the writer is also a celebrity, and I
don't Basically it was kind of given, like she didn't
want to put her out there like that. But everything
else that Carrie alleged, you know, with Polo to don
and or not even just him, but like just execs
(05:50):
or her leadership at the time forcing her to do something,
you know, and hearing that story and I'm thinking, like,
you know, this was years ago, she was a lot younger,
she had such you know, massive, massive success at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I felt for her.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I was like, yo, I can understand, you know what
I mean, like, I don't think I would have done that,
but I can understand being in that position and feeling
like if I don't do this, everything I've worked for
is gonna be in question. These are people with you know,
power influence, say so I'm signed you know, to them,
and you know the all those factors that come in.
But baby, I'm trying to tell y'all, when we posted
(06:26):
this clip online and then I took it over to Twitter,
y'all ain't showing no grace whatsoever, not nar One, Baby
Grace so live here anymore, not Narra One. The way
that she is being dragged on Twitter for telling her
side of the story is insane. And a lot of
people have pointed out, you know, in response to me
taking the video to Twitter, older interviews that Cary Holston
(06:49):
had done where she talked about the song was not
leaked by Polar to down and you know that she
wasn't forced to do the record, And I think y'all
have to at least give her the grace of it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is what she is now saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
She has the courage to come out and say because
she's taken all of these years, over a decade off
she's found peace of mind. She needs a little bit more,
you know, confident, or a lot more confident in who
she is and where her voice is. She's also now
a independent artist, so can't nobody stop nothing or shut nothing,
you know what I mean. She's an independent artist now
she can do and say certain things. It was different
(07:23):
then they literally controlled her career to some extents, and
I think it was different than too with like, you know,
people believing certain things. I think if Cary Hilson had
come out and said that she was actually forced to
do this song when nobody had believed her, people would
have been like, no, girl, that ain't true. You're just
saying that because the Beyonce fans don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That ain't true. Didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And then y'all got on my body because I said
I said it in the interview, and I also said
on Twitter that this was the first time that I'd
heard carry Hilston talk about this in detail as far
as being forced in things of that nature. I think
someone put up an interview from about like five years ago.
But even in that interview, I feel like she was
a lot more candid with us, and she said in
(08:08):
our interview because I mentioned that in our interview, like, hey,
this is the first time that you because why I
don't remember this? And I feel like my you know
what I was insinuating by asking that is all this time,
why haven't you ever said that? If that would have
like turned the noise down, why didn't you say that?
And she said that she did do an interview where
she did talk about this, you know, to some extent,
(08:30):
but she felt like the Breakfast Club was a bigger platform.
She was, you know, more comfortable here, and she hoped
that because of how big the platform was and how
you know, what the reach are, what the reach is,
and what our reach is here, she wouldn't have to
talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That was her whole point.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now, I will say Esther Deane has come out, and
she commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram under the carry
Hilson video where ry Hilson is having the conversation with
us about this, and because people were tagging her into
the video because the people knew, they was like, oh,
Esther Dean wrote this, She commented and said, I'm here,
and then she commented again because there was someone in
(09:07):
the comments that said, like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this
or something like that, and she replied to that person
and said and did and it was a hit.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh wait, wait, wait, hold on, y'all. Wait, I just
got a notification.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Esther Dean actually just responded to all of this on
her Instagram, not no comments on her real Instagram. She says,
I submitted a lot of verses for that remix. One
got picked and it was co written with Carrie. Looking back,
it was childish and didn't age well. I see how
it hurt people, especially women, and I take full accountability.
I've worked with and supported many women since, but that
(09:38):
doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry for my part in it.
Growth is real, and so is apology. It's getting real, y'all.
I would say I'm indifferent about this, but I kind
of feel bad.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
For Carrie Holston a bit. I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I know that there are people that feel like, well,
you know, during the time when it first came out,
she should have said this. She should have said that, like,
there should have been more that that happened when you
saw this snowball effect. But I'm indifferent about what's true
and what's not. I do have an opinion on how
I feel about Carrie in this situation. I do feel
like give her some grace a bit, but I don't
know what's sure what's not. But until we know, and
(10:14):
I don't even know if we ever really will know,
like how would we know that.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I think this is one of them things.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Where we have to hear all sides of the story
and then not that we even have to, but it
would be nice to hear all sides of the story
and then be able to make a determination from there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Now. I did reach out to Estadeen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I DMed her on Instagram and said, hey, you know,
I work for the Breakfast Club. Would love to talk
to you as we'll be reporting this more now that
you commented and you know, let us knew that you
know that you were the writer. Would love to talk
to you, you know, from your point of view, because
I think I'm going to probably reach out to Polo
to Don too, just to see if he has anything
that he, you know, would want to add in or
you know, comment and response. But Carrie Holston's new music
(10:50):
comes out on April eighteenth. It's called We Need to
Talk and Carry Holston's back outside and she's talking and baby,
she didn't start to be high up.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Again well talking about this too or not. Kenya Moore
our girl, Key Moore is my girl. I love her.
Housewives of Atlanta. You watch Taylor, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think the last season or two though have been
a little stale, but they revived it by bringing Porsche
back onto the show this season. But then Kenya had
to make the exit because of her back and forth
with a new cast member. Her name is Brittany Edie
now Brittany Edi Kenya. We talked about it on the
last episode that Brittany Edi and Kenya had this they just.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
On the show, we talked about that back and forth.
I gave you guys that background. If you have not
listened yet, please go listen to that episode so you
can have a bit more of the background. Because now
what has happened is people are responding. So Andy Cohen
and his co hosts for his radio show are like
recapping the episode and you know, talking about what happened,
and Andy's filling the co hosting on what happened and
(11:59):
the and one of his co hosts makes a comment
that even showing someone a photo of someone else in
a sexual manner, or just certain things can be considered
sexual assault. Now again, if you did not hear my
breakdown of the episode and what happened, please go visit
our episode prior to this one. But really quickly, I'll
just tell you Kenya Moore show photos of the other
(12:23):
cast member, Brittany given fialatio to a man. Now, according
to rapecrisis dot org, sexual assault happens when someone either
touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or
makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent.
It includes unwonted kissing, in the touching of someone's genital's,
breast or bottom. I do not see in any of
(12:45):
the definitions that I am looking at showing revenge porn
being sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Now, there are other.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Ways to classify, you know, non consensual sex related crimes,
but from what I see, this wouldn't have been considered
sexual assault. So then Andy Cohen in the conversation shifts
to now you know what Kenya did and showing these
photos at the event being likened to revenge porn. I
(13:15):
looked up the definition of revenge porn. The definition of
revenge porn is revealing or sexually explicit images or videos
of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a
former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject, and
in order to cause them distress or embarrassment. She's been
and here's the example they give of it. She's been
campaigning for a change in the law since she first
(13:36):
became a victim of revenge porn.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So that's how she was in the sentence.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now, the reason why I look this up is because
there are times where I've heard people claim revenge porn when, like,
you know, you have like an ex who like leaks
stuff not even on the Internet, but through text messages
or emails or stuff like that and trying to exploit
or whatever, and it's wrong. So Kenya comes in and
she's responding to Cohen and the co host and she's
(14:01):
really upset. So this happened on Instagram from her Kenya page.
Kenya Moore says the two co hosts are extremely ignorant.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Sexual assault is rape.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Remember that's what phaed your accused Candy of attempting to
do to Portia. Now, I will say I think Kenya
is being a little you know, shady when she brings
this up because during that yeah, I remember it if
you don't remember, If you guys don't watch for her
House as Atlanta, but if you do, you know what
I'm talking about. During that season when faed Your accused
Candy of trying to do that to Portia, Faedr ended
(14:34):
up being put off of the show, So she's basically
seeing you guys understood it then and understood everything around
it then, but now, you guys don't revenge porn question mark.
If someone showed a KIMK sex tape to you, is
that revenge porn? I found that plus tons of others online.
She signed a release for it, so it's fair. Then
(14:55):
she put receipt in all caps. So Kenya is alleging
that there were release forms signed where these images could
appear online. So by her recirculating them and putting them
on the poster to bring to her event, she did
nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Warning Kenya says, if.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You are not an attorney and't familiar with Georgia law,
then shut the f up. Sick of the bias and
selective outrage. These are comments that should not have been aired.
It is a podcast where is legal you don't want activated, Kenya,
I shouldn't have shown at my event but for the
love of God, why would they ignore a clear gun threat?
(15:33):
And she's referring to the fact that the episode before that,
Brittany says while getting on the elevator to Kenya or
just in the area of Kenya, that she still has
her guns in her whips. I'm not don't verbat on
me there. I believe she said like her pistol, but
it might have just been the word gun. But still
she you know what I mean in that context, you know,
you say that around or to anyone you just got
(15:54):
done arguing with, which would think they're gonna feel. But
Brittany was trying to apologize, that is why she can't
to this event, but.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
King ain't trying to hear.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And after this, after you know, everything was shown, Kenya
was suspended and definitely from Real Housewives of Atlanta. So yeah,
it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's just a big mess.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And basically Kenya is at this point threatening Andy Kohen
and whoever else that is speaking about this that if
you don't get it right, I'm gonna bring in legal
now agatting.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
If everything you know here that she's alleging is true.
I don't know if there were release forms signed by
Brittany to have these images place certain places wherever Kenya
found them on the internet. I didn't even look into it,
to be honest with you, because even if there were,
I feel like I mean to Kenya's point is what
(16:46):
she's trying to say Legally, that's a whole different thing.
And if she takes it legal, I'll look more into that.
My whole point in bringing us up and covering it.
You know, I'm a fan of the show, but also too,
it was sad to see Kenya God like this, like
I said last episode, and like I'm gonna say here
as I end this, can You've been standing on business
about your kingdom and you know what I mean, and
everything you're doing for your daughter Brooklyn and all that
for so long.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Don't let these girls trick you out your spot. Do not.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Okay, you will og We needed you this season and
now we ain't got you. There's no reports on whether
Kenya will be back for next season or not. She
was suspended in definitely for this season only, so we'll
have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So as always, I'm Laura La Rosa.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything
and every single body, every single time that you know
y'all joined me right here to talk about all these things,
because at the end of the day, there is always
a lot to talk about and a lot of places
y'all could be listening to to talk about it. I
appreciate y'all for tuning in, and I will see you
guys in my next episode.
Speaks to the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God and
guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the
third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming
back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Pullman
Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions Man,
DyB and Weezy Okay now look, tickets are on sale now.
(00:21):
We got the R and B Money podcast with taking
Jay Valentine. We got the Woman of All podcast with
Saray Jake Roberts. We got Good Mom's Bad Choices. Carrie
Champion will be there with her next sports podcasts and
the Trap Nerds podcast with more to be announced. And
of course it's bigger than podcasts. We're bringing the Black
Effect Marketplace with black owned businesses plus the food truck
(00:42):
court to keep you fed while you visit us. All right, listen, listen, listen.
You don't want to miss this. Tap in and grab
your tickets now at Black Effect dot Com Flash Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm a homegrew that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
If you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can't even.
All right, y'all, I am in here. Taylor is here.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Taylor made it the producer of the Latest with Laura
La Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This is my first time filming the podcast from the
iHeart and Breakfast Club studios because I got a lot
going on today. I'm gonna be a bet shooting the
BT Talk show that I do what you guys can
find on YouTube and it will soume be on BT Plus,
and then I have a red carpet event and then
I'm outside tonight for a friend's birthday. So I need
(01:33):
to get this in when I can get it, and
we're gonna do the video, but the video will be
a bit different than this. But y'all are in the
best place because, as you guys realized yesterday, if you
watched my video upload on Lauren La rose A TV
or the Black Effect YouTube channel, you probably realized that
I gave y'all little video, but the full episodes only
happen over here on the audio side. So stick with me,
share this, tell a friend, and tell a friend. Bring
(01:54):
it on in. Now, let's get to the Latest, because
y'all know I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit
about every everything and everybody. But we got to talk
about me right now, because let me tell y'all, Miss
Carry Hilstaid, Miss Carry Baby Dang, I.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Still tell her what you loving at? I still can sing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I got a Billboard recognized hit, The Job Is Mine
by Branica.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know Billboard covered that. No, that's Billboard cover.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We didn't make the chart or nothing like relax, but
Billboard did talk about it. I said recognize. I ain't
say charting, okay, but yeah. So Carry Holston was here
at the Breakfast Club and we talked to her about
a bunch of different things. But the biggest thing, of course,
when talking about Carry Holston coming back to music after
what like fourteen fifteen years her last drop was in
(02:42):
twenty eleven, is the whole Beyonce debacle, the back and forth.
So in context and a little bit of background for
those who do not know Carry Holston, you know, I
don't have to explain who Carry Hoilston is. She has
major songs. She has written for major celebs as well.
But she there was a song that leaked back in
(03:02):
two thousand and nine. It was the Turning Me on
record that Cary Hilson had moving at that point. It
was a remix to that song. Now the song was leaked, right,
so she had always carry Hilson, had always stood on Yo. I.
You know the song was leaked. It wasn't something I
was supposed to come out. And you know she had
said that, you know, she there was no smoke with Beyonce,
(03:24):
and I know she had talked about meeting Beyonce, and
you know, they didn't really get to talk about it.
They didn't talk about it, but Beyonce introduced herself. So
of course when Beyonce beyonceild if I'm speaking Beyonce into
my interview, existence, God, let me get that. And I
want to mention in the song. We talked about some
of the lyrics up here. There was a part of
(03:44):
the song where she's like carry Hilton. The disc is
like the woman she's referring to. She's talking about this
woman needing to go have some babies. She's talking about
the woman needs to move herself to the left. And
this song was after Beyonce's irreplaceable to the left, to
the left, so it was easy like, oh, that's what
she's talking about. There were other parts of the song too,
(04:05):
where other people had said that you know, they you know,
said that there were other women in the industry at
that time that Cary Hilson was referring to. But of course,
y'all know how people don't play about b So she
went through turbulence because of this. Now, moving this on forward,
when Carry Hilson was here at the Breakfast Club, she
told us this story about the song.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I was young, I'm super young. I felt I had
no power. I felt I had no choice. But I
did record mine my version, which had nothing like that
in it. It was on subject song is about men,
and it leaked like days after I did it. But
he promised me that wouldn't happen. So it leaked and
that was that. And I protected him. I protected the
(04:45):
girl that wrote it, who went on to become famous.
I protected everyone in the story. So I had to
eat that and I am still eating it to this day.
But that is definitely a regret of not fighting even stronger.
But I again, and to not stand up for my
that was a shame that I wore. Was like I
should have fallen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now, when Carrie Holston decided in that interview that she
was not going to reveal who the writer was, I googled, y'all,
I'm sitting on I literally I didn't have my computer
cars in the shop, computers in the car, but I'm
on my phones and y'all will see me in that
moment on my phone because I'm trying to look up, well,
who was the writer on the song? And I don't
know if because it was leaked and you know how
it was placed where it was.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Leaked, writing credits were prevalent or like what.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I also went to Twitter as well, and in that moment,
I didn't know who she was talking about, and then
she said, I'm not going to reveal who the writer
is because the writer is also a celebrity, and I
don't Basically it was kind of given, like she didn't
want to put her out there like that. But everything
else that Carrie alleged, you know, with Polo to don
and or not even just him, but like just execs
(05:50):
or her leadership at the time forcing her to do something,
you know, and hearing that story and I'm thinking, like,
you know, this was years ago, she was a lot younger,
she had such you know, massive, massive success at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I felt for her.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I was like, yo, I can understand, you know what
I mean, like, I don't think I would have done that,
but I can understand being in that position and feeling
like if I don't do this, everything I've worked for
is gonna be in question. These are people with you know,
power influence, say so I'm signed you know, to them,
and you know the all those factors that come in.
But baby, I'm trying to tell y'all, when we posted
(06:26):
this clip online and then I took it over to Twitter,
y'all ain't showing no grace whatsoever, not nar One, Baby
Grace so live here anymore, not Narra One. The way
that she is being dragged on Twitter for telling her
side of the story is insane. And a lot of
people have pointed out, you know, in response to me
taking the video to Twitter, older interviews that Cary Holston
(06:49):
had done where she talked about the song was not
leaked by Polar to down and you know that she
wasn't forced to do the record, And I think y'all
have to at least give her the grace of it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is what she is now saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
She has the courage to come out and say because
she's taken all of these years, over a decade off
she's found peace of mind. She needs a little bit more,
you know, confident, or a lot more confident in who
she is and where her voice is. She's also now
a independent artist, so can't nobody stop nothing or shut nothing,
you know what I mean. She's an independent artist now
she can do and say certain things. It was different
(07:23):
then they literally controlled her career to some extents, and
I think it was different than too with like, you know,
people believing certain things. I think if Cary Hilson had
come out and said that she was actually forced to
do this song when nobody had believed her, people would
have been like, no, girl, that ain't true. You're just
saying that because the Beyonce fans don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That ain't true. Didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And then y'all got on my body because I said
I said it in the interview, and I also said
on Twitter that this was the first time that I'd
heard carry Hilston talk about this in detail as far
as being forced in things of that nature. I think
someone put up an interview from about like five years ago.
But even in that interview, I feel like she was
a lot more candid with us, and she said in
(08:08):
our interview because I mentioned that in our interview, like, hey,
this is the first time that you because why I
don't remember this? And I feel like my you know
what I was insinuating by asking that is all this time,
why haven't you ever said that? If that would have
like turned the noise down, why didn't you say that?
And she said that she did do an interview where
she did talk about this, you know, to some extent,
(08:30):
but she felt like the Breakfast Club was a bigger platform.
She was, you know, more comfortable here, and she hoped
that because of how big the platform was and how
you know, what the reach are, what the reach is,
and what our reach is here, she wouldn't have to
talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That was her whole point.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now, I will say Esther Deane has come out, and
she commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram under the carry
Hilson video where ry Hilson is having the conversation with
us about this, and because people were tagging her into
the video because the people knew, they was like, oh,
Esther Dean wrote this, She commented and said, I'm here,
and then she commented again because there was someone in
(09:07):
the comments that said, like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this
or something like that, and she replied to that person
and said and did and it was a hit.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh wait, wait, wait, hold on, y'all. Wait, I just
got a notification.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Esther Dean actually just responded to all of this on
her Instagram, not no comments on her real Instagram. She says,
I submitted a lot of verses for that remix. One
got picked and it was co written with Carrie. Looking back,
it was childish and didn't age well. I see how
it hurt people, especially women, and I take full accountability.
I've worked with and supported many women since, but that
(09:38):
doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry for my part in it.
Growth is real, and so is apology. It's getting real, y'all.
I would say I'm indifferent about this, but I kind
of feel bad.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
For Carrie Holston a bit. I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I know that there are people that feel like, well,
you know, during the time when it first came out,
she should have said this. She should have said that, like,
there should have been more that that happened when you
saw this snowball effect. But I'm indifferent about what's true
and what's not. I do have an opinion on how
I feel about Carrie in this situation. I do feel
like give her some grace a bit, but I don't
know what's sure what's not. But until we know, and
(10:14):
I don't even know if we ever really will know,
like how would we know that.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I think this is one of them things.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Where we have to hear all sides of the story
and then not that we even have to, but it
would be nice to hear all sides of the story
and then be able to make a determination from there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Now. I did reach out to Estadeen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I DMed her on Instagram and said, hey, you know,
I work for the Breakfast Club. Would love to talk
to you as we'll be reporting this more now that
you commented and you know, let us knew that you
know that you were the writer. Would love to talk
to you, you know, from your point of view, because
I think I'm going to probably reach out to Polo
to Don too, just to see if he has anything
that he, you know, would want to add in or
you know, comment and response. But Carrie Holston's new music
(10:50):
comes out on April eighteenth. It's called We Need to
Talk and Carry Holston's back outside and she's talking and baby,
she didn't start to be high up.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Again well talking about this too or not. Kenya Moore
our girl, Key Moore is my girl. I love her.
Housewives of Atlanta. You watch Taylor, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think the last season or two though have been
a little stale, but they revived it by bringing Porsche
back onto the show this season. But then Kenya had
to make the exit because of her back and forth
with a new cast member. Her name is Brittany Edie
now Brittany Edi Kenya. We talked about it on the
last episode that Brittany Edi and Kenya had this they just.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
On the show, we talked about that back and forth.
I gave you guys that background. If you have not
listened yet, please go listen to that episode so you
can have a bit more of the background. Because now
what has happened is people are responding. So Andy Cohen
and his co hosts for his radio show are like
recapping the episode and you know, talking about what happened,
and Andy's filling the co hosting on what happened and
(11:59):
the and one of his co hosts makes a comment
that even showing someone a photo of someone else in
a sexual manner, or just certain things can be considered
sexual assault. Now again, if you did not hear my
breakdown of the episode and what happened, please go visit
our episode prior to this one. But really quickly, I'll
just tell you Kenya Moore show photos of the other
(12:23):
cast member, Brittany given fialatio to a man. Now, according
to rapecrisis dot org, sexual assault happens when someone either
touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or
makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent.
It includes unwonted kissing, in the touching of someone's genital's,
breast or bottom. I do not see in any of
(12:45):
the definitions that I am looking at showing revenge porn
being sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Now, there are other.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Ways to classify, you know, non consensual sex related crimes,
but from what I see, this wouldn't have been considered
sexual assault. So then Andy Cohen in the conversation shifts
to now you know what Kenya did and showing these
photos at the event being likened to revenge porn. I
(13:15):
looked up the definition of revenge porn. The definition of
revenge porn is revealing or sexually explicit images or videos
of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a
former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject, and
in order to cause them distress or embarrassment. She's been
and here's the example they give of it. She's been
campaigning for a change in the law since she first
(13:36):
became a victim of revenge porn.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So that's how she was in the sentence.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now, the reason why I look this up is because
there are times where I've heard people claim revenge porn when, like,
you know, you have like an ex who like leaks
stuff not even on the Internet, but through text messages
or emails or stuff like that and trying to exploit
or whatever, and it's wrong. So Kenya comes in and
she's responding to Cohen and the co host and she's
(14:01):
really upset. So this happened on Instagram from her Kenya page.
Kenya Moore says the two co hosts are extremely ignorant.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Sexual assault is rape.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Remember that's what phaed your accused Candy of attempting to
do to Portia. Now, I will say I think Kenya
is being a little you know, shady when she brings
this up because during that yeah, I remember it if
you don't remember, If you guys don't watch for her
House as Atlanta, but if you do, you know what
I'm talking about. During that season when faed Your accused
Candy of trying to do that to Portia, Faedr ended
(14:34):
up being put off of the show, So she's basically
seeing you guys understood it then and understood everything around
it then, but now, you guys don't revenge porn question mark.
If someone showed a KIMK sex tape to you, is
that revenge porn? I found that plus tons of others online.
She signed a release for it, so it's fair. Then
(14:55):
she put receipt in all caps. So Kenya is alleging
that there were release forms signed where these images could
appear online. So by her recirculating them and putting them
on the poster to bring to her event, she did
nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Warning Kenya says, if.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You are not an attorney and't familiar with Georgia law,
then shut the f up. Sick of the bias and
selective outrage. These are comments that should not have been aired.
It is a podcast where is legal you don't want activated, Kenya,
I shouldn't have shown at my event but for the
love of God, why would they ignore a clear gun threat?
(15:33):
And she's referring to the fact that the episode before that,
Brittany says while getting on the elevator to Kenya or
just in the area of Kenya, that she still has
her guns in her whips. I'm not don't verbat on
me there. I believe she said like her pistol, but
it might have just been the word gun. But still
she you know what I mean in that context, you know,
you say that around or to anyone you just got
(15:54):
done arguing with, which would think they're gonna feel. But
Brittany was trying to apologize, that is why she can't
to this event, but.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
King ain't trying to hear.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And after this, after you know, everything was shown, Kenya
was suspended and definitely from Real Housewives of Atlanta. So yeah,
it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's just a big mess.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And basically Kenya is at this point threatening Andy Kohen
and whoever else that is speaking about this that if
you don't get it right, I'm gonna bring in legal
now agatting.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
If everything you know here that she's alleging is true.
I don't know if there were release forms signed by
Brittany to have these images place certain places wherever Kenya
found them on the internet. I didn't even look into it,
to be honest with you, because even if there were,
I feel like I mean to Kenya's point is what
(16:46):
she's trying to say Legally, that's a whole different thing.
And if she takes it legal, I'll look more into that.
My whole point in bringing us up and covering it.
You know, I'm a fan of the show, but also too,
it was sad to see Kenya God like this, like
I said last episode, and like I'm gonna say here
as I end this, can You've been standing on business
about your kingdom and you know what I mean, and
everything you're doing for your daughter Brooklyn and all that
for so long.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Don't let these girls trick you out your spot. Do not.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Okay, you will og We needed you this season and
now we ain't got you. There's no reports on whether
Kenya will be back for next season or not. She
was suspended in definitely for this season only, so we'll
have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So as always, I'm Laura La Rosa.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything
and every single body, every single time that you know
y'all joined me right here to talk about all these things,
because at the end of the day, there is always
a lot to talk about and a lot of places
y'all could be listening to to talk about it. I
appreciate y'all for tuning in, and I will see you
guys in my next episode.
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