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April 24, 2024 43 mins
The FnA Podcast with Kevin Figgers and Adam Auslund AND Brie Brie. Jonas Knox from Fox Sports Radio joins the show to preview the NFL Draft, talk about the Bears, Chargers possibilities, Rams, Reggie Bush getting his Heisman Back and more + some FnNBA on the Clippers losing to the Mavs and the Lakers on the refs!
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one at follow Adame at Bredonese twentysix. Correct. Yeah, I'm sorry.
What Yeah, Well, I waswatching WrestleMania and one of the one
of the USO brothers, it's yeayea, and I was like, oh,
that's a little ghetto, so I'lljust go yeah, I just go

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yeah, why why is the Yeatghetto? This reminds me of there's an
snl skit where they had these twolike white rappers who were like TikTok rappers,
and they were supposed to be sittingon a panel. I think it
was with Queen Latifa and Questlove,like talking like about the history of hip
hop, and these guys were justsaying, like the most nonsensical feel was

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like, yeah, all that,all that old school stuff is cool,
but what about the Yeat? Andthey were like what He's like, what
about the Yeat? And Quest levelslike I don't even know what the hell
you guys are saying right now.You guys aren't even speak in English.
By the way. We were talkingabout this off air, But at some
point in the upcoming weeks we mayhave to do some rap news on all
the beefs that have been going on. It's like Volume ten right now with

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how many guys are involved. Hateis in the air, you know what,
and Adam is gonna be do theone. I have to put me
up on game on all this becauseI'm aware of all the stuff. I
know, Chris Brown and Quavo gotsomething. I know, Kendrick and j
Cole got something. Drake to it. Sounds like Drake is going after everybody,
if I if I've categorized that correctly, they formed the Avengers to go
after Drake and take him down forgood. Rick Ross is involved, believe

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you tried. Yeah, it's alreadyput out two disc tracks before Kendrick has
responded to his first one. Yeah, so I I'm not completely in the
dark. But as far as allthe specifics go, I have no idea.
I really don't. So we mighthave might have rap news featuring Adam
allslind at some point here next week. If the white guy has to lead
in rap news, he will doso, that's right. Yes, it'll

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be opposite day. Let Eminem thing. Eminem's sitting next selling out, sitting
next to Roger Goodell, you know, doing NFL draft promo. So you
know somebody's got to take the mantleat him. Come on, everybody talking
about the goat, and I'm stillthinking, isn't Eminem in the conversation here?
I know he's not as relevant atthe moment, but technically he's still
a pretty good rapper, is henot? Wait, as far as greats
of all time, are you sayingthat? People are saying Eminem is not

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in that conversation. Kendrick was comingin and saying, it's not the Big
three, it's just big me AndI think the three he was talking about
was he, J Cole and Drake. Eminem not involved there, So maybe
it's just guys who are someone intheir prime right now. So he's talking
about the big three. As faras like modern hip hop, like right
now, we're all time think Ithink it's just right now because we heard

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him talk about guys all time onthe Control Verse right correct, right,
because he talked about Pac and hetalked about Biggie and jay Z and all
those. I mean, he's like, really, you can't put yourself in
like they're Yeah, as far asall time greats, don't talked about Phil
Jackson came back still no coaching me. I forgot about that. It's got
that drop in there. Yeah,I I don't know. I I honestly

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I like the disc tracks going aroundbecause, as the kids say, this
is real negativity, and I'm allfor that. You know, that's why
that's why you're gravitating that towards this. You know, that's what it is.
I don't even understand some out That'swhat I'm just glad no one's going
after me right now. Okay,because the Clippers lost last night, well

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there's still time speaking of will talkabout that with some f and NBA coming
up later in the show. Willupdate you on the Clippers, will update
you on the Lakers complaining about thecalls. I got some hate for that.
But before that, Kevin got aspecial guest. Uh. NFL Draft
is coming up tomorrow as a matterof fact, and it's been a long
time coming. I have this gueston the show here on Fox Sports Radio

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does a bunch of other things aswell. One of our friends here at
A five seven the LA Sports andFox Sports Radios. Let's get to it.
Alan Dragan Dude, thank you well. Joining the show right now is
a guy that went from working atChuck E. Cheese to being the Big
Cheese on Fox Sports Radio in themornings on two pros and a cup of
Joe as our cup running over withscolding hot takes from the former Prince of

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Darkness himself. Sorry Lee Klin,who now basks in the Glory the morning
Glory hits our friend Jonas Knocks fromFSR, joining us here on the Fday
podcast. Jonas, what's good?Thanks for doing this? No good?
Thanks for having me. Guys,And I feel like, you know,
when we just skip Chuck E Cheeseand go straight to Fox Sports Radio,

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we're kind of dismissing all the otherstops in between, Telemarketer, Janitor,
busboy TGI Fridays. You know,there was some other stuff that I did
too. I wasn't just a giantstuffed animal the kid's abuse. I thought
Don Martin was in Chuck E Cheeseis having a beer and some pizza.
He saw that guy dressed up asa rat, and he's like, you
know what, that's the guy Iwant to doing mornings on Fox Sports Radio
right there by the way. Thatwould have been sweet. I think Don's

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too good for chefchech Let's be honest, it's right more bid for chechie ch
Man. I won't even go toNasbury Farms is Disneyland or nothing? All
right, Joas, let's start thingsoff here NFL draft talk. So you're
a Bears fan. We know thatthey got the number one pick from my
Panthers. That's fucking annoying. Butthey're cursed with bad quarterback play, and

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USC quarterbacks are cursed at the NFLlevel. So are we sure Caleb Williams
should be the guy? It seemslike a dangerous match, you know.
And I thought the same thing toowhen Justin Fields got to Chicago. He's
like, well, listen, it'salways been the knock on Ohio State quarterbacks,
and Ohio State quarterbacks still work inthe NFL and the Bears can't seem
to fight the quarterback in the NFL. And then, somehow, some way,

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in a weird result through all ofthis, the Bears said bye bye
to an Ohio State quarterback and thetext had to quote unquote settle for an
Ohio State quarterback because they lost outon the Bryce Young sweepstakes to Carolina,
who ultimately got that pick for theBears, and in turn CJ. Stroud
ends up being the franchise quarterback forthe Houston Texans, and the Bears have

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an opportunity. The whole thing ischaotic and crazy. None of it makes
any sense. But that's the draft. And what's interesting And I'm not trying
to bring up maybe this bad pointof conversation to Adam Austin here is a
Carolina Panthers fand but it is interestinghow when you look back at that trade

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to think that it could result inwith all those picks that went separately,
that the Carolina Panthers ended up withBryce Young and the Bears could end up
with Caleb Williams, DJ Moore,Keenan, Allen, Tyreek, Stevenson all
part of that trade and that backand forth with Carolina kind of wild to
think about. God Bears. I'mjust I'm just telling you. The saving

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grace is it is the Bears.And if there was one team that was
going to screw this up, itwas probably gonna be that. Yeah,
I'm counting on it. I'm sure. Let's talk about number nine because we
know what's happened in that number onefor Caleb Williams, theref what the Bears
there, Jonas, What are youlooking at as a Bears fan when it
comes to number nine. A lotof people are talking receiver with Roma doonsay
maybe they trade back and try toget more picks. What do you think

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is the best route for them there? Yeah, I think they've got four
options. I think they can goreceiver if Roma Dunsday is there, because
I think Neighbors and Marvin Harrison Juniorare going to be gone at that point.
I think they've got four options,and I think there's a sleeper as
well too that could be thrown in. So if Roma Dunsdays there, they
could go that direction. They couldalso take potentially the best offensive tackle in

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the draft, which could be aJoe Allt if he slips down to that
point from Notre Dame or an Olufshanufrom Penn State that's a possibility. And
then they could end up with thebest edge rusher in the draft as well
too, in Jared Verse. Andthen also so they could trade back because
they do only have the four picksthat they've got for the entire draft,

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so if they want to add somemore capital, if they think there's some
value in the later rounds, thatcould be an option. The one that
I don't think a lot of peopleare thinking about is what about Brock Bowers,
Because I know they've got I knowthey've got Cole Comet, but a
lot of really really good football teamsdon't just have one great tight end.
They've got another great tight end theycould throw to it. Cole Comet was

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fantastic last year, and he wasreally really good the year before. But
maybe he doesn't have that same productionin Shane Waldron's system. Maybe he doesn't
have that same chemistry with Caleb Williamsthat he had with Justin Fields. And
I wonder if you're sitting there andyou've got the best player at his position
and he's that much better than everybodyelse and he's there at nine, Rock

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Bowers could be a possibility also.Geeze, So now you're talking about the
possibility of Brock Bauers Keenan Allen,you know, to go along with DJ
Moore. I mean, you haveall the in the world and for Kayleb
Williams, come fuck it, bullshitman, Okay, yeah, but I'm
telling you though, it's the Pearsyou're sleeping on that, Okay, Like
like like we're like the Bears arethe type of franchise and this is what

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it's like growing up a Bears fan. They're the type of franchise that they
walk into a gas station, theyplay a quick pick. Twenty minutes later,
somebody tells them, oh my god, you just won Powerball, and
five minutes after that, they accidentallydrive off a cliff. Like it's just
that's the way this stuff goes.So you're just everything seems great and then

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all of a sudden, you know, they they turn into the groundhog and
Bill Murray going off the cliff inGroundhog Day, just like bad things are
gonna happen to that franchise. Youjust are waiting for it, and it's
only a matter of time, orat least that's how we look at these
things. Ever, the optimist jonUs Knock joining us here on the podcast.
Hey listen, I'll tell you itworks with Elman Louise, it's the
hell of the way to go.I'm just saying, talk about JJ McCarthy.

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It's all someone making a meteoric rise, because coming into the season,
I don't think anybody thought this guywas higher than fifth round, sixth round,
you name it. Now, allof a sudden, even look,
going into the National Championship Game,nobody thought that this guy was going to
be a top prospect. Now peopleare talking about the possibility of him going
as high as two or three.How do you see that potentially going,
especially considering Jayden Daniels and Drake maywho have been consenses guys towards the top.

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Now all of a sudden, areall of a sudden getting jumped by
some of these prognosticators by a guylike JJ McCarthy who's completing eight balls a
game. I don't get it.Yeah, And it's kind of wild when
you think about because there's gonna bea run on quarterbacks and it looks like,
you know, we could end upwith six quarterbacks going in the first
round because you've got the Scott Pennixand Bo Nicks, and you've got JJ
McCarthy, who's apparently the fourth orthird or fourth best quarterback there. And

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it's kind of funny when you thinkabout the fact that if a team does
get desperate and they're trying to moveup, and let's say New England doesn't
want to move off number three becausethey, like Drake may I, gets
really desperate, a team like Denver, a team like the Raiders, a
team like Minnesota, and they wantto move up for JJ McCarthy, what
is Arizona sitting there at four goingno, no, no, we don't

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want to move off Marvin Harrison Junior. Because we move off him, then
the team right behind this is justgoing to take him. Well, we
don't want Justin Herbert to end upwith Marvin Harrison Junior. So, in
a weird way, what if JJMcCarthy ends up helping out Jim Harbaugh again
and a team way over spends toget up to five and gives up a

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bunch of draft capital to the LAChargers, who already have their franchise quarterback.
They're probably gonna want to add awide receiver, but if they feel
like this draft is loaded anyways,I think the Chargers, and yes I
almost looped up and called them SanDiego there, but who cares. I
think the Chargers are sitting there atfive with the potential of having Jim harbass
former quarterback helping them out one moretime, one last time to try and

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get up to that spot, orwho knows, if they get aggressive and
somebody likes them enough that they don'twant to take any chances, they way
over spence to the Cardinals at four, then they could end up with Marvin
Harrison Junior to be justin Herbert's toptarget for the next decade plus. So
the Chargers are an interesting one becausewe know they've gotten They got rid of
their top two receivers from this pastyear, and there's a lot of receivers.

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There's a deep receiver class as wementioned. But also we know how
Jim Harbaugh likes to play. Hewants to be physical upfront on both lines.
They could use some offensive line help, but they want to run the
ball more. With hiring Greg Roman, we know that's going to be a
staple of their offense. If you, Jonas Knox are the general manager of
the Chargers, what are you doingat number five? Assuming they're not trading
out of that spot and they're makingthe pick. I mean, if you've

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got a chance to get Neighbors orMarvin Harrison Junior, I don't know how
you pass that up. Like,I really don't know how you pass that
up. But if it's Harbaugh,wouldn't it be sweet If they're sitting at
five and he just drafts Blake Korum, like, screw it, I'm doing
what I do. Hey, youknow what, and the rest of you
guys could kiss my ass if youwant a five where you can kiss my
ass. You can come down tomy camper that's overlooking the Lebrea Tar Pitch

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and you can kiss my ass.That's how this is going to get done,
because we're running the football and we'regonna go ahead and pound it for
the next decade plus in LA andwe're gonna light up so Fi Stadium with
some ten six football games like thatwould be sweet. But I just think
with yeah, you mentioned Mike Williamshas gone, Keenan Allen's gone. You
got to add some weapons around JustinHerbert. And if you've got an opportunity

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to land one of the one ortwo best wide receivers in this draft the
draft that you consider are significantly betterthan the others, I think that's a
direction you would probably go. JonasKnox is our guest here on the FNA
podcast, who the Commanders go withwith that second pick? Talking about the
quarterbacks there, I mean, Idon't know, man. You talked to
Jayden Daniels agent. He's none toopleased with the fact that, you know,

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they took everybody to top Golf.You know, got a little bit
of a red ass about it.You know, didn't like the fact that
an NFL team who's bringing in theirsquarterback prospects take their guys to top Golf.
But it does feel like that's goingto be the one. Jaden Daniels
will go number two, and theRaiders would desperately like to get up to

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take Jaden Daniels. Antonio Pierce obviouslyas a relationship with Jaden Daniels because he
was part of recruiting him to ArizonaState, So that's been one of the
teams that's tried to move up.But if you're Washington, I just think
it feels like the right time togo quarterback because you've got your brand new
owner, you've got your brand newGM, brand new coach. Why not

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start fresh everybody on day one,page one with a quarterback and you go
that direction. They would have lovedto have had Caleb Williams because he's a
local guy, but there's not ashot in how the Bears are moving off
an opportunity to grab him. SoI think Jayden Daniels probably ends up going
number two. And if you wereone of these people that bought into the
potential of there being another pick notnamed Jaden Daniels, because of the draft

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movement, like you could have gottenJayden Danianiels on some of these draft kings
and some of these other spots.You could have gotten Jayden Daniels as close
to even Monday money a few daysago, and the latest IYE size,
he's like a five to one favoritenow to go number two overall to the
Commanders. So you missed your chance, You missed your opportunity. But there's
some other stuff out there if youwant to keep getting your degenterate on and

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gamble on the NFL draft. Whatdo you think The Rams do have a
first round pick for the first timesince nineteen eighty two when they took Jarrett
Golf way back in twenty sixteen.Yeah, so now there's a thought process.
Well, you know, Matthew Stafford'snot getting any younger. They did
have a good year last year,but he's had some health issues. He
was able to stay upright for mostof the year last year. And you
mentioned there the run on quarterbacks we'regoing to have this year. They potentially

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could have a shot at someone likea Michael Pennix at number nineteen. But
then others were saying, well,because they had a chance to compete last
year, they can compete going intothis season. Maybe they add someone who
can help immediately, or maybe alongthat defensive line since they lost Aaron Donald.
What do you think the Rams woulddo with there at number nineteen?
Remember the first time you guys wentout to eat after COVID and you didn't

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have to wear a mask and youalmost felt like, wait, what way?
I just kind of like, yeah, like wait, hold on a
thing, So you mean to tellyou and you're almost looking around like like,
am I gonna get in trouble?Is somebody gonna come over here and
give me a ticket? Like?Am I gonna get kicked out of this
place? Am I even get filmed? Does somebody have their camera on and
they're gonna throw me on Snapchat?And next thing you know, I'm gonna

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get busted because I don't have amask. I wonder if the Rams kind
of feel like that. So waita second, you mean we got to
do something in the first round.We can't just sit. We can't just
sit in the Malibu Beach house andand have drinks and then make fun of
the Patriots for drafting some offensive linemenfrom somewhere in North Dakota, and we
we we actually have to do something. This has got to be a really

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weird feeling for them because that wasthat was a team that hit on some
picks last year late in the draft, and now, all of a sudden,
all these years later, after theFM picks mantra had been thrown,
they're sitting there with one. I'mreally curious to see how to handle it,
because this is new territory for them, as you mentioned, all these
years after trading away and get ridof Jared Goff, getting Jared Goff,

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trading them away, moving up anddown, bringing in all these free agents.
No, Aaron Donald, it iskind of a pivotal offseason for them.
A division where if you followed theNFL, yes, the forty nine
ers are the favorite, but it'sreally tough to go back to a super
Bowl after you lose one, andthat division could be there for the taken.
Instead of fuck them picks, it'snow, no, we do fuck

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with those picks. We like someof those. Yeah, yeah, that's
right, that's right, Jones.I don't know if you saw this news
a little bit earlier. With ReggieBush, his heisman has been returned.
Any thoughts on that? Who cares? But I mean, like, here's
the thing, like everybody recognized himas the Heisman Trophy winner, Like so

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what he didn't actually have his trophy, or maybe he did, or maybe
it's like the whole thing is justdumb, Like everybody knew that he was
the Heisman Trophy wahwah. He couldn'tgo to the event in New York.
Okay, three four years from now. I wonder if he's even showing up
or if he gets to that ofhis system and goes, oh, this
isn't that great anyways, Like Iwant to watch Johnny Manzel you get drunk
for a third year in a row. I need this, like I need

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to be here. The whole thing'sridiculous. It almost feels like, you
know, college football and everybody wantsto feel good story and now we're always
going to rally around that Reggie.If you watched Reggie Bush play and you
guys were here and saw him play, he was the best player in college
football. He deserved to win theHeisman Trophy. And he's one of the
great football talents that we've ever seenat the college level. Him having a

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trophy, him not having a trophyisn't going to take away from me recognizing
Listen, this guy's one of thebest to ever do it. It's like,
you know, Tiger Wood's not havingthe all time Majors wins. I
know what it was like when TigerWoods was on fire. I've never seen
anything like it. You can talkabout Barry Bonds and the fact that he
may have been on the gas andmaybe that's why it's head balloon to the

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size of those helmets out in frontof Angel Stadium. I get it.
I know we want to have thatdiscussion, but I know what I saw,
and you can try and not puthim in the Hall of Fame and
diminish everything he did when he wason fire and when he was doing what
he's done, We've never seen anythinglike it. Same with Reggie Bush and
to me, the trope, He'sjust kind of an add on a cherry
on top. But it doesn't makethem deserve Meanwhile, OJ giving the stiff

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arm to the devil right now,I'm sorry, go ahead, Kevin,
no kidding. Ah, yeah,he lost his husband. Baby. Oh
boy, here's a pipe bop inyour bouquet, keV. What do you
think take it? Neck? That'swe're talking quarterbacks. There's always going to

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be sleepers, guys who show upout of nowhere. You know, you
have your Spincer Rattlers, Michael prattformTuayne's getting a lot of love, Jordan
Travis, who unfortunately had his uhuh season and early for a chance to
potentially compete for a playoff spot.And we all know the floor they would
have been in there had he beenhealthy. But you know, I'm talking
to Brady Quinn who calls college footballgames. I know you guys chop this
up a lot on two pros anda cup of joe. Are there any

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sleeper quarterbacks quote unquote that we thinkcan actually make an impact as a starter
in the league. Well, helooked. Spencer Rattler is a guy.
That's interesting because Spencer Rattler was oneof the great recruits, one of the
top recruits and ended up getting beatenout by Caleb Williams at Oklahoma, which
is why he transferred and he wentto South Carolina and early on at South
Carolina, the results were a littlebit mixed when it came to Spencer Rattler

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because he was turning the ball overa lot. He was a little bit
reckless, but just from a arm, talent ability, that dude's got a
hose and a half, like he'sreally like he can throw the football.
And so that's the guy that youlook at and go, man, what
if you're a team and you know, not to try and stir it up,
but what if you are a teamlike the Dallas Cowboys and you're sitting

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there and you've got Dak Prescott goinginto the final year of his deal and
you're just not sure you're a teamthat's got, you know, a veteran
quarterback out there, and you feellike, hey, if he's there,
why not take a chance of thisto see what we got and potentially he's
a future franchise QB. The talkis Spencer Rattler might be that guy,
but unfortunately they've all been kind ofdwarfed by the fact that it's Caleb Williams

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and all these other studs near thetop, and then you know, you're
just kind of forgetting about all thoseother qbs that are going to go on
day two and three. He isthe great Jonas Knox. Check him out
weekdays with LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinnon FSR, Fox Sports Radio two Pros
and a Cup of Jel. Alsocheck out Jonas on the weekends on Saturday
on FSR. Jonas, This isa blast man. Thanks for doing this

(22:40):
today. No, thank you guysfor having me. And I just want
to say, like this is abreath of fresh air, because I just
had this weird, odd, strangefeeling that we were going to be inundated
with forced questions about the New OrleansSaints that nobody cares about. Nobody gives
a rip about the Saints not They'renot even an armpits fart in the NFL

(23:03):
right now, And for some reason, I just had this feeling like we
were going to get just punished withSaints questions and what are they doing?
And what's the direction? Is thisthe next Drew Breeze blah blah blah blah
blah, And we didn't get anyof that crap. So thank god for
everybody on the show about irrelevant asthe Phoenix Suns right now down too,
as someone who had to live throughDerek Carr and Dennis Allen. Uh yeah,

(23:27):
we're not missing much by skipping theSaints. Trust me, I know
how that ends. Don't worry aboutit. I just want to say we
are a professional show Jonas. Iwould have never thrown that in there as
options for questions, but I didwant to say, you guys on two
posts, we're talking about John BobbittBobbitt, what's his name of that tracks?

(23:48):
I had never heard of that neveryou never, I swear, So
that was something I did want toadd because I was like, you guys
were talking about it, I'm like, who the hell is what's bob it?
Like, what is this? Imean, listen, I mean listen,
it's morning Drive, So it seemedlike the appropriate place to do.
So how it got brought up,I don't I don't even remember how it

(24:11):
got brought up. But I justwant to say this on behalf of the
rest of the guys in the roombreed. Don't get the ideas. Okay,
it's not you know, it's notlike that's the smoothest move in the
world where you know, like abomb snipping dog behind the seven to eleven's
got to find your cash and prizesand hope they could put it back on.
It's not. It's not the wayanybody wants this stuff to go.
So I'm just saying, don't getthe ideas, and I apologize for the

(24:33):
Saints jokes. Yeah, the fewerwomen who know about that story is probably
the better. Let's put it thatway. I'm telling you, man damn
that it was a good story.Adam is pretty close to me right now,
so you better watch it with thedoor. Hey, thanks guys.
All right, a little f anNBA fool, as David Magdaleno would say,

(24:57):
and he would say it quite often. Yes, in fact, I
think I even have some sound dropsof him saying it. You know,
Trump listens FNBA, that's the wrongone. Did you hear that? You
know Trump listens when we heard it. Yeah, this was gonna be a
little segment open I made one timean NBA, but then I never got

(25:18):
around to it, and I justhave him doing the drops NBA. So,
Kevin, could we start with theClippers game last night before. I've
never been to a live game whereI have seen more physical play before in
my life, and I'm not sayingthat's why the Clippers lost. I think

(25:41):
it was called fairly down the middle. For the most part, they both
had the same amount of free throws, I believe. Yeah, it was
close in that area. There wasno big free throw disparity anything like that.
No egregious calls down the stretch,nothing like what happened with the Angela
Russell Moore on that in a littlebit. I just have never seen anything
like it where they were calling itlike it was a Game seven, where

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you see those sloppy, grinded out, stuck in mud like offensive showcases.
And it's game two of the firstround. And I don't know if the
officials, And by the way,this has kind of just been a tone
that's been set the entire postseason tothis point, because it's not just this
game. You go back to thelast game that Philadelphia and New York played

(26:26):
and now grant that the NBA cameback and said there were some miscalls,
which I think was fairly obvious,and the final two minute report there.
But for whatever reason, and Ifeel like this happens to a certain degree
that we haven't seen it recently,where everything gets ratcheted up in the postseason
and they let guys play a littlebit more. But I feel like,
you know, that's some more ofa throwback to the nineties or the early
two thousands, where we had alot of ugly beat them up. It's

(26:48):
exceedingly rare that you have a gamein the NBA in twenty twenty four that's
under played under one hundred points whereboth offenses are just terrible. I don't
think that was the case that theoffenses were just ice cold. They were
just really fit and they were lettingguys get after it a little bit.
It was something to say. Itwas like the video game Art Rivals before
there was NBA Jam. It wasArt Rivals where the guys are punching each

(27:10):
other on the cover. Yeah,or Charles Barkley shut up in Jam where
you can push people go get thedamn ball. Yah, exactly like that.
And I have a little bit ofa theory and it's based somewhat in
reality, actually, because I heardthis on the Zach Low podcast where a
couple of months ago after Lebron cameout and was talking about the league and

(27:33):
how much offense and how much offensiveplayers have an advantage now and all the
high scoring games were going on.This was a little before the All Star
break. Since then, scoring wentdown about two points per game, which
doesn't seem like much, but overhow many games are played over that stretch,
it's kind of significant. It wasa stark change. It was pretty

(27:56):
drastic, and then Zach Low talkedabout it with some league officials and they
alluded to the fact, at leastapparently that maybe there was a memo sense
to the referees, to the officialsthat they wanted it called a little bit
looser, that they didn't want itcalled so tight, that they wanted defenses

(28:19):
to be able to play a littlebit more. For you, They didn't
say anything like that, but thenI heard there was some confirmation by Adam
Sandler Adam Sandler by Adam Silver ina report. It's early, forgive me,
and from what we've seen in theplayoffs, it kind of confirms about

(28:41):
that. But what I think isgoing on is it's the officials saying,
oh, you told us to callit this way forever you wanted more scoring.
Now you want us to take itthe other way. We'll take it
the other way, all right,We'll take it to the extreme. We're
not calling a damn thing. Becausethat's what I saw last night. It

(29:03):
was almost reckless at times. Idon't know how it translated on TV,
but I'd never seen anything like it. Kevin. It was just it was
it was different, It was rugby, it was a different brand of basketball.
Yeah, it seems some very differentthan what we're typically seeing again in
basketball in twenty twenty four. ButI'm not necessarily gonna bash on it.
I kind of like it to acertain degree. Now. Look, and
I know what Darbnham said after thegame a couple of days ago. You

(29:26):
know, it's a foul in theregular seasons, a foul in the postseason
into it in a general sense,I do believe he's right. We generally
stand on look a foul in thefirst quarter as a foul in the fourth,
right, But I kind of likethe idea of letting the guys play
a little bit, going a littlebit back to the nineties because at a
certain point, you know, youget these games into the high one thirties
and one forties, and granted youdon't see that a lot in the postseason,
but there's a certain amount of anelement of allowing the players kind of

(29:48):
taking into their own hands. Andas long as it's not ultra egregious,
I don't necessarily mind a little bitmore physical play here and there. Yeah,
the only thing I mind about itis how fast it happened celerated to
this point. Yeah, players don'tunderstand what's going on, and that is
somewhat alarming. But I take yourpoint. I don't necessarily hate it,

(30:11):
and we'll see if they can adjust. Now, just give them more time
if they're consistent with it. Bythe way, because you know, I
saw Game one and I didn't feellike it was like that. I think
it's different officiating crews, different guyscalling it, and there's always that adjustment
period with different officials out there.But the Lakers game was like that,
The Sixers New York Knicks game waslike that, and last night the Clippers

(30:33):
Dallas game was like that, wherethe Clippers would fall late in Kawhi Leonard's
return, which was a little bitdisappointing seven of seventeen. But I hadn't
played it almost a month. Imean, you got to give him a
little leeway. Oh yeah. Justthe way they lost that game, it
was there for the taking. Theyhad an opportunity. They were up by
six with I think about eight anda half minutes left in the fourth quarter,

(30:56):
and because it was so low scoring, six points felt like ten at
the time. It felt like insurmountable. Is Dallas gonna be able to come
back from this? But Luca wasmagnificent down the stretch, the Clippers had
some miscues, and it's gonna gosix or seven. It's a real series,
now, yeah, which I mean, I think we discussed this last
week that it was gonna be aseries even if everybody was healthy. With

(31:18):
Kawhi Leonard. Now, I pickedthe Dallas Mavericks because I just didn't think
that Kawhi would be able to bringit. But that was before I saw
what the Clippers did to Dallas inGame one. In realizing how Now,
granted Dallas was also bad. Theymissed a lot of open shots in that
game. You can't necessarily count onthat. But Kawhi is gonna be able
to get his at least I'm confidentthat he'll be able to get his sea
legs under him to a certain degree. And really, the only thing that
was missing, or the big thingfor me, and you were there,
you tell me he just didn't havelegs on his jump shot. Yeah,

(31:41):
but I mean his relentlessness defensively,you know the breakaway steal from Luka Doncik
where he got the dunk. Hisaggressiveness, his instinct was still there.
I just think that he just didn'thave the legs under his jump shot,
and I think that's just gonna comewith more practice, you know, getting
more more of a rhythm under hisbelt. So I'm not as concerned as
I was going going into the series, seeing how he was able to work
through a lot of it during thegame. And if it's just getting his

(32:04):
sea legs under him to be ableto make jump shots, that's something I'm
fairly confident that he'll be able tofind. I was honestly shocked. He
played thirty five minutes. Yeah,and while he was short with most of
his jumpers and I think went zeroof five from the outside or something like
that, he got into the paint, he got a couple of push shots
to go, He had that stealand dunk to start the third quarter.
His movement look good now. Hetalked about his wind a little bit postgame,

(32:28):
because there's no way to replicate notjust NBA reps, but playoff reps
in this case, and also themost physical game you're being thrown back into
that I've ever seen. But overall, it's encouraging just to have him back,
of course, and maybe in gamethree as long as he responds well,
because my concern is, well hehasn't played in a month, he

(32:51):
hasn't really tested out the right knee. He plays thirty five minutes, there's
two days off. I'm just hopingthat his body is able to, you
know, sustain this and it's notthat persistent and stubborn inflammation that he's been
dealing with in that right knee,because this was the first real minutes he's
gotten in the last month. Right. But the good thing is you mentioned

(33:13):
the two days off, which isreally important. So I think that that's
a big boost for him to beable to be able to get some rest,
hopefully not rested too much as alwaysthe you know, rest versus russ
situation when it comes to these sortsof things. But I do think having
that additional day you have to fly, obviously that can be a factor as
well when it comes to inflammation.But overall, I was fairly encouraging it.
And again it puts an emphasis onthe fact that they were able to
win Game one without him in thelineup, because it gives you at least

(33:37):
a little bit of confidence in knowingthat this team and this team never quits,
they always compete. But I thoughtthey were going to be at a
major disadvantage, and you saw whatthey can do when James Harden can kind
of reach back into the wayback machineand play as well as he could play,
especially in that first half. Thisis kind of what having a big
three does for you, you know, having someone who can, you know,
kind of pick up the slack whenone of your stars is down.
Because in the in the previous years, and I know they won a series

(33:59):
tears Man went off and all thata couple of years ago in the postseason,
but generally speaking, you knew theywere sol without Kawhi Leonard or Paul
George. And now if they neededto win a game or two in a
series without one of those guys,you have someone else who can pick up
the slack. Do your Lakers evenhave a big two right now? I'm
sorry, I know Ad had thegreat first half. God I sustain it.

(34:19):
It's not a thirty two or thirtyfour even forty six minute game.
And I almost asked the Duke ofSports to come on to talk about this
because he was making all the excusesin the world for Anthony Davis while criticizing
Lebron James, who was the onlyguy that showed up late for missing that
three pointer because he thought he shouldhave taken more time off the clock.
My point would have been on thatmiss three that was wide open. There

(34:44):
was a five second difference between thegame clock and the shot clock. Anyways,
Denver was getting another shot regardless.They had a time out too.
That's all the time in the world, four or five seconds. Like,
I don't mind that shot at all. You have to take that. It's
a great look, the first greatlook you get. You taken that situation
to me after he'd made a coupleof tough looks before that. It's not
like he had been Ice Colton hadto have made it three the entire game.

(35:06):
I mean that that's the one shotyou do want him taking in that
situation. He's shooting forty one fromthree on the season. Yeah, I
had no issue whatsoever with Lebron takingthat shot. And he was unbelievable before
that. Yeah, the twelve pointshe had in the last six minutes,
nobody else was doing a damn thing. Anthony Davis did he not score at
all in the fourth quarter, Kevinnot at all. He had three field

(35:28):
goals the entire second half, andthose all three of those were in the
third quarter in the paint, allthose mid range jumpers that he was making,
which, by the way, creditto him. But if I were
Denver, I've given him all thoseshots again and darre him to make those
in game three and in game four, because you've pointed this out that since
the bubble he's never been able tomake shots to that degree from the mid
range. He just had a phenomenalnight. Now give him credit for that,
but again, he had a phenomenalfirst half, but he wasn't able

(35:50):
to carry it over. And it'sjust it's demoralizing if you're a Laker fan
that you can play as well asyou played in Denver. I still don't
think Denver in game one or gametwo has played the best that they can
play three and they still find away to come back and win. Yeah,
that tells you. Like we talkedabout this last week, and I
know you said you thought the Lakershad a chance to win, and they've
been competitive and should have won thatgame, Kevin, they should have won
that game. There should have twentymy Lakers should have won. Eric Dickerson

(36:14):
tells me only losers say we shouldhave won. Though those are the ones
I come after and said, man, we was right there. If we
just had one mo If we justhad ifs and butts don't matter. If
they were going, here's your if. If they were going to win a
game, that was the one todo it, and they couldn't finish it.
And Denver's played like trash. AnthonyDavis played as well as he possibly
could play, at least four anda half and it still wasn't enough.

(36:37):
Do you have tells you the schismor the chasm? I should say,
excuse me between those two teams andwhy Denvers disappeared to La did you pull
out the world smallest violin for theLakers? Complaining about calls afterwards to a
certain degree, yes, they lookD'Angelo russell one. How you still get
that wrong on replay review doesn't makea lot of sense to me? Okay,

(36:58):
can I ask you this because itwas crazy to see that overturned.
I understand that, but it didcome so late after the shot attempt.
Should it have been a shooting foul? Should it have just been a foul?
It should have at least point Yeah, it should have at least been
a foul. Okay, you knowthat's the thing. If you hit somebody
upside the head, regardless if theyhave the ball or not, that's a

(37:20):
foul. That's an off ball foul. That's you can't have that not go
call or go un called. Ifyou want to say that it came well
after he threw the ball up towardsthe rim or towards all them glass and
sure, I'll give you that,but you can't that is not a no
call. And the fact that thetwo minute report came back and they said
no, no foul, and alsoawayscuse me, it wasn't a twoinu report,
it was the replay review. Ijust don't understand it. So from
that standpoint, I'm with Lebron onehundred percent. That makes no sense to

(37:44):
me. Did you see that thatwas the first game as Denver's won ten
straight against the Lakers that Denver hadthe free throw advantage in their favor first
in ten games, and they stillhave won ten straight against them. It's
really mental at this point, likeLebron missing that wide open shot almost maybe

(38:05):
too good of a look, andthen Jamal Murray having all the confidence in
the world to sink that tough fadeaway over Anthony Davis. They just have
the mental edge well as cold asAnthony Davis was in the fourth quarter,
Jamal Murray could miss. Jamal Murrayhad the Kyrie irving from a from a
game one in the third quarter,right, what was he eight for eight
or nine for nine? And hewas terrible at first? Yeah, he
was ice cold to begin with.The Lakers actually did a pretty solid job.

(38:27):
Austin Reeves got beat a few times, but I think, considering his
physical limitations, for lack of abetter term, held up pretty damn well
than trying to guard Jamal Murray's.Like, so, if Murray's gonna be
that ice cold, yo, kich. Honestly, up until the fourth quarter,
I know we had twenty plus rebounds, seemed to it was the quietest
twenty twenty nine I've ever seen froma player. To be honest with you,
I agree. You look up atthe you look up at the box
corn. It's like Jesus, really, I didn't see that coming. Yeah,

(38:50):
but uh, there's no way thatthe Lakers can recover from this.
To be honest with me, Ireally not to sound hear. Yeah,
that to be dooming in gloom.I know there's still at least two more
games to play. But how youcome out of that game and not drop
your head and not feel that wedid everything we possibly could. Ad played
as well as he possibly could,Lebron Damn near played as well as he
possibly could. D Loo had thefirst half of his life that he needed

(39:13):
after him having that mental hurdle toget over against Denver. Yeah, the
only guy who really didn't bring itwas that with Ruy Hachimura, who miss
missed a lot of layups, gotbeat defensively, constantly missed a big three
down the stretch. But if he'sthe one guy who you say, oh,
Ruey didn't play well, But D'Angeloand Lebron and Ad and Austin Reeves
had made some big shots, madethe three that put them up by twenty

(39:35):
in the third quarter. Everybody elseplays well in playing their roles. What
more could you ask for? Thattails me there Again, Denver is just
a better team than Lakers are.The Lakers can play their best, Denver
can play their C minus game,and Denver can still be in a position
where they can be in it inthe final couple of minutes and they can
pull away. Yeah, well,good luck to the Lakers. I could
care less. Yeah, great,I gotta winning Game three. They got

(39:57):
all the Game three, They're gonnaget fifty calls after all that complaining.
We saw what happened after the Tatumcall went against them. You would think,
you would think, but I don'tknow. I mean, look the
way that this postseason has been calledjust across the board, regardless of this
game or this series or any other. I mean, they've been kind of
calling it pretty close to the vestso for everybody. So whether or not
there'll be this giant overcorrection, we'llhave to see. I will say in

(40:21):
the Lakers defense, they attack thepaint more than anybody, and they hunt
calls, especially Anthony Davis. I'venever seen a big guy on the floor
as much as he is trying tobait officials into calls, and a lot
of times they fall into it.So I think that's why the Lakers,
generally, outside of just being theLakers, I'll give you that, why
they get such a such a highfree throw discrepancy. Versatile teams. From
what I've seen, there's still likebottom five and drives per game, and

(40:45):
like points in the not points inthe paint. I think they're maybe top
ten there, but I don't know. It still seems like they've gotten plus.
They're plus one thousand in free throwstaken over their opponent over the last
two seasons. Now, the nextclosest is a team that's plus three hundred
in that category. It just seemslike there's something going on there. I

(41:09):
don't know. Maybe they are justthe most aggressive team ever. It doesn't
past the smell test to me.But maybe I'm a hater. I mean,
you definitely are a hater, butthere's validity to what you say for
sure. I can't argue against that. I'll take that. That's fair.
That's all right, then it's true. That's all I ask. That was
good. Happy Jonas knocks on.Yeah, that was fun. It was

(41:30):
fun, long time coming. Soglad we were able to get him on
the show. Thank you Brief forhelp setting that one up. Absolutely,
that was super exciting. Thank youguys. Brie's kind of on a roll
as our booker. Yeah, whileDevin Booker not on a roll. Bri
is our booker on a roll.Sorry about that. Please don't cut my

(41:52):
dick off. I just he'd bethat's the first time you had the idea
of maiming a man's privates. No, all right, all right, well
thankfully I'm not there. Thank youguys for listening, for supporting the show.

(42:14):
As always, you can hit usup on the socials at FNA show
on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitterslash x. You can find me at
kpig one, Adam at follow AdamA. We're back later next week.
Enjoy the NBA playoffs, Enjoy theNFL Draft, Enjoy the fn A podcast.
Wherever you listen to podcasts forgetting figures, I'm at a Maslins I'll talk

(42:37):
to you that. I'm praying tothe skies and I changed my stars.
I went to the Can you takeus through that last play and just what
happened and what unfolded and what wasI don't know if you were screened or
what happened in that last play.Jamal shot
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