June 2, 2025 • 57 mins
In this bold and emotionally raw episode of Ask Nyomi: Bridging the Gap Live, we welcome the multi-dimensional Pepper K — former news producer turned adult entertainer and creator of Design Your Dream Girl. Together, we explore the hidden truths behind male loneliness, emotional connection through fantasy, and the healing power of adult intimacy. Host Nyomi Banks, co-host Dog Pound Mike Mike, and guest Pepper K dive deep into:
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- How the adult industry reveals unmet emotional needs in men
- Why companionship, not sex, is often the true desire
- The mental toll and emotional intelligence required for sex work
- Overcoming shame, setting boundaries, and creating safe spaces for expression
- What Design Your Dream Girl offers that mainstream platforms don’t
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#AskNyomi #BridgingTheGapPodcast #MaleLoneliness #FantasyAndConnection #AdultIndustryVoices #EmpathyInSexWork #DesignYourDreamGirl #PepperKLive #SexualHealing #EmotionalWellness #LonelinessInMen #NyomiBanks #RealConversations #IntimacyAndBoundaries #SpiritualSexuality #SexWorkIsWork #MenNeedLoveToo #DisabilityAndDating #BreakingStigmas #PodcastForHealing #SexPositive
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hey, I'm do for people who welcome back to Ask
Man Christening Gap podcasts, where we talk about love, sex, relationship, culture, differences,
and so much more by bridging the gap between them
all and teaching the world on sex, love, language, and attitude.
What a little bit of spiritual uplifting. Well, I am
always joined by my amazing host dog Pound Mike. What's
(01:47):
going on, baby? It's all good, all good today. You know,
this is where we love to have those real conversations
that most people just won't touch. But today is no different,
is no different. You're ready for this? Doctor, I'm like, yes,
I have all right, BTD crew, I see you. I
have an amazing guest, an amazing guest, and I am
(02:09):
honored to welcome guest Peppercat. She's a former news producer
turned her Dell entertainer and she is the creator of
Design Your Dream Girl. She's joining us to explore some
deep things like male loneliness, emotional health, and how fantasy
and desire intersects with reality. But before we bring Pepper
(02:29):
Cain to the stage, let's take a quick break. All right,
it's a gurt you got its see it on x
baron bisically podcast, We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Washington wells into two focuses on healing. Always for me,
if I look good, then I feel good. If I
feel good, then I share the good. If I share
the good, then I celebrate the good. If I celebrate
the good, then I live the good. So I can
be paid to be my greatest, but I have to
learn the good to be the good.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
So what does it take to be the greatest?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Simple as a free fifteen minute consultation, Be kind to yourself.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
You'll all less.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
All right, boy, Papricat, how are.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
You hi, I'm doing well. How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I am great? I am great. So let's start with
your story. You begin your career as a news producer. Oh,
a unique transition into adult entertainment.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, So I'm Pepricat and I started as a news producer.
So I produced night news, morning news, life, lifestyle, and
I was doing that for about three and a half years.
And then I found out about phone sex and selling
(03:52):
panties and doing online adult work, and I was really
interested and and I kind of played around with it.
I did some live camming with my mask on. I
kind of lived a double life. I was producing but
also camming, and then I was also selling panties and
(04:15):
I was like, Wow, this is actually really cool, and
I wanted to travel and be more financially stable, but
also still do something exciting. And I found that I
really enjoyed doing this line of work. And now I
(04:36):
do it full time and it's not my dirty secret anymore,
but it's something that I really love doing. I love
connecting with my fans, but also exploring my own sexuality
doing this line of work.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, you know that is such a powerful leap from
being news entertainment. I know what that leap looks like.
But what were some of the biggest challenges for you
that faced during that transition and how did you you
find the strength to just push through to you know,
allow your dirty little secret to be.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think the biggest challenge was keeping it a secret
for so long. My parents just found out a couple
of months ago, and they thought I was working for
the news, and then they thought I was a tutor.
And so I think keeping this part of my life
hidden and not having anyone to talk to you about
(05:38):
or tell them about except for my friends. I think
that was the hardest part. Is lying to my family
but I did it. I didn't do it to hurt them.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I didn't. I didn't want to hurt.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Them, And so it's kind of like something that I
kept inside. But now they know. But it's fine, they
don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But let me ask you, how how long have you
been in the adult industry?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
In June, I'll be going on about three years now,
full time, not halftime, part time. I did it for
about I would say four years, but full time three.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Years, three years?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, all right, So let's talk about male loneliness. You know,
you shared in the beginning that you started off with
cam and selling underwear. That's something that's often overlooked with
the call when we talk about men loneliness or dismiss
So what have some of your what have you observed
in your work and interaction with men that opened your
(06:40):
eyes to their emotional struggle?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I think the first thing I notice with men period
when I first started, and I guess it could relate
to mal loneliness, is that a lot of them live
double lives in a way that they don't always feel
like they can always vocalize what they want or vocalize
what they're really into. So they come to us, and
(07:06):
I know that you were in this industry as well,
so I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
But I.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Also noticed that when I did live camming, so I
was live camming with a bunch of men coming in
the chat room, I would notice that when I did
speak to them, and even during private cam shows, a
lot of them would tell me that they've never had
sex before, that they've never been in relationships.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
I've seen an increase.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Of younger men coming to me for cam shows and
phone sex, which I did experience them when I first started,
but I see a lot more of them coming to
me for companionship too, the girlfriend experience, and a lot
of the same complaints or challenges that they vocalized when
(08:01):
it comes to having trouble dating right, not having sex
at all, right.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I guess it's very surprising, especially when you when
you talk about men about having difficulties, especially having conversations
with women better yet of not being in relationships and
having sex, and the whole thing is about the loneliness.
I guess we tend not to really feel that men
are lonely, you know, because they're men, you know, and
(08:31):
we know, you know, because this is the industry that
we've been in, is that, you know, men are the
biggest consumers of this. I think one misconception and I
don't you can agree with me or not, is that
a lot of times is that a lot of is
companionship and not just about sex. Sometimes it's about the
conversation that it can have with with you and be
(08:52):
open about their sexual preference or you know, or some
of their fantasies or even just a just to just listen,
you know, right.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, no, So you know, society tells men to stay
strong and not to show their emotions, but that takes
a toll, right, So how do you think that these
norms affect their ability to connect deeply with others?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I do agree that it goes beyond sex in terms
of being vulnerable, and I think it allows men, from
what I've observed, to have a silent struggle with things
that they just don't feel comfortable speaking up about. A
lot of them, like I said, come to us instead
(09:43):
of being open with people who are their friends, or
their family or even their spouse. And just based on
what I've seen, there's a lot of secrecy and just
not opening up, and I think it does get pent
up at some times for certain men more than others
(10:04):
in terms of internalizing certain ways of being a man.
But I do know that a lot of times men
they do practice some sort of what they think is
their masculinity with me and other women like me for
cam calls or phone sex. So I know sometimes if
(10:28):
a man is he has a powerful position in life
and he doesn't always show his emotions or he's not vulnerable,
they'll use my platform for me to put them in
a position where they experience some sort of masculinity different
than what they actually show to other people in terms
(10:50):
of them being submissive, or them getting into sissification, dressing
up like women and just kind of playing around with
that in terms of what it means to channel their
emotions in a sexual way. But it still allows them
(11:11):
to go deep into themselves and kind of question why
they think what they think.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And so that's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, Well, thank you for sharing. So let me ask
you this being a sex worker in so first let
me two parts. One is it do you just do
camming or have you went into the deep end like
mainstream hardcore video?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So I do camming, phone sex. I've done collaborations, but
it's wrestling, fantasy wrestling I'll do on camera, which is
a little different than what I do, but not like
hardcore sex with men or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Not yet yet, not yet.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So my next question is what has been the biggest backlash? Well,
better yet? Have you had any backlash from being a
sex worker since you have come out of your dirty
little secret, especially when it comes online, have you had
any backlash, and if any how has that made you
feel We're being so open about your career now?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I know certain members of my family, and not
all of them. They are super religious and.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
So they do not like what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And I've even had them share my secret to other
people that I didn't want out, which is fine.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean, it's out.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
That's the most backlash. If there's backlash in terms of
my college or high school, I don't know about it.
I don't really go on my personal pages anymore, just
because I just don't really want people to ask me.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
About it on those platforms.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But that's the main part of the back the backlash,
and then of course online trolls and people, you know,
typical people calling me names, death threats, just crazy stuff
like that for me posting a picture or if they
know I haven't only fans harassment online. But that's kind
(13:23):
of typical, you know, with trolls and online.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right, right, So do you have any specific stories of
feedback that you've seen that can shed light on just
how real the loneliness can be.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
I mean, I have so many.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I guess when it comes to loneliness, I know,
for me, in terms of.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Camming, for example, I have a lot of guys who
may be so I had.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I don't want to say name or anything, but I
know I've I've been in contact with some for camming
who have never had sex before, where he cam with
me for.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
A couple of years.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
He never had a girlfriend, but he used campsites to
find some sort of companionship. I know I have certain
customers who even have autism or some type of disability
that impacts their social skills, and so I just meet
them where they are when it comes to speaking to
(14:34):
women and doing sexual interactions. But yeah, for the loneliness,
that's a big one. I know that I get a
lot of men even if they're divorced, and I know
they come to me for cam shows and experiencing some
type of companionship or some type of sexual pleasure, even
(14:58):
if it's virtually the they may feel like they're missing on,
missing out now that they are separated or divorced from
their spouse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right, so let's let's shift. Let's shift. Let's shift a
little bit into the adult industry. Okay, what's one thing
that you wish that people understood about being an adult
entertainer that they probably don't.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think the first one is that I think a
lot of people think that that as easy. That's the first,
that it's easy. That it's not easy. It takes a
lot of emotional intelligence, it takes a lot of reading
people being sexually mature and not laughing at someone unless
(15:49):
that's like a kink for them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
That's that's one.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Another is that a lot of people assume people who
work in our industry are not intelligent or smart, and
that we just chose this because we can't do anything else.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
A lot of us are smart, and even what people
think is work or not work. Sometimes people assume that
what we.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Do is not considered work.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
But if they were to be in our shoes, that
they would see how much work it takes behind the
scenes to do this line of work. And then also
people always assume that you have to come from a
background in terms of being sexually assaulted or raped, which
(16:37):
I'm not saying that that's not the case for all
of us, but it's not always the case for everyone.
You know, just like any other job, there's people who
have been sexually assaulted and who have not been.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
It's the same for our industry too.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So yeah, you know, and I guess that kind of
go into the next question. You kind of spoke on
it a little bit about the stigma around adult work.
You know, there's the slogan that says sex work is work,
that work is work. What do you think that causes
the biggest misconception about performance.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I think people have a hard time separating sex from business,
and I think it's because we do it all the
time for free, you know, when when you put a
price on it in terms of sexual pleasure, it's hard
for people to see the difference. And so I think
(17:38):
that's the main part of where people get confused. And
I think that's part of the reason why people think
it's easy, just because they just think of like the
sexual part, But like you were saying earlier, it goes
deeper than that. I mean, people are telling us their
lives and you have to have some.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Type of maturity.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
There's a lot of hard things that you may that
may traumatize you. I mean, it's just it's not easy.
And sex work is a place where people use us
as outlets. But sometimes if people just don't understand, they
just glance over that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, you know, that's a beautiful way to put it
as an outlet. I think that goes in detail on
how important empathy is, how important that empathy is is
to have so for and this is my question with
empathy for people, How important is empathy for people creating
the content and the people consuming it.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
It's very important.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
When I mean for us who makes the content, having
empathy for us being vulnerable. I think it's hard for
people to do that. But I think for me, what
I've learned in this industry, I have mostly male customers.
(19:04):
I've gotten a couple of women, but not not too many.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
At least for me.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I've learned how to have a sense of empathy for
men and their sexuality and their sexual urges that I
had no idea I knew a little bit about it,
but I didn't know as much as I do now,
and I definitely have more empathy for them when it
(19:31):
comes to sexual urges that they battle that I just
had no idea. And then also the male loneliness too, right,
But I think it's important to have empathy for both
and to not put people down for watching porn or
seeing a sex worker. I mean, we all need love
and intimacy.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
You know something, I've just been sitting here listening and
you know y'all talking, so you know about male loneliness
and things like that, but this the dog pounds.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So I come from a whole different concept.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
But I guess what I want to ask ask you
is there's kind of a difference between I guess for
men who watch porn and they won't see the poor
they want to see the counts, they won't see the
beautiful women and they want to see the action. But
you and I have known Nami for a long time,
so I know you talking about the interaction with the
guys and loneliness and talking to them more than the
(20:29):
actual act of sex. So what how do you keep
you know, how do you keep it together on that
part because when you come and talk to a guy,
I mean they literally can can fall in love with you.
And like I said, I know, Naomi, for a long
time you have shows falling well love with and people
actually do.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
So how do you keep.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
It together from guys who just want to see you
in the sexual act and guys who want more conversation
and want to know more about you in their lives.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, there have been guys who have fallen in love.
Typically if they do that, they just stop talking to me.
I don't take it personally.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I just know they you know, they just want to
not fall in love with the camp model, which which
I understand. Certain guys I just have to block them.
To be honest, they get a little obsessed. But for
the most part, I make it clear in the beginning.
(21:29):
I set my boundaries.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I let them know up front.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I know that this is a fantasy. I do not
meet in person. This is what's going to happen, this
is what's not going to happen. And if they break
the rules, then I just block them and report them.
But I haven't gotten any like soccers in person online
I have, but for the most part, I just set
(21:53):
my boundaries.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So let's talk about the dream. To design your dream.
That's your project, and I think it's both innovative and
deeply human. What inspired you to create this experience?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
So?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I wanted to create an experience.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That my fans have with me on my own platform.
I wanted to provide a safe place where they can
be naughty and live out their fantasies and a place
where they feel like they're not judged. And so I
have I do one on one camming with them, or
(22:31):
if they want a custom video, or if they just
want to message me and talk or even on the phone.
I just create a space where it's my own platform
and where they can live out their dream and have
it come to life.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah. I love that. I love you. You sound like
me a little bit.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
You feel that this space is helping helping people feel
safe about espressing their desires.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They a lot of them are current customers, I feel,
I mean, I they've I've known them for years. But
I feel like my platform is safe just because I
mean I've I've been doing this for a couple of
years now, and.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
A lot of them trust me.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I always speak with them beforehand, to ask them what
they like, what they don't like. I don't want to
cross any boundaries with my with my customers through this
or do something that they don't feel comfortable with. But
I just think just having the conversation up front and
just getting to know them more in terms of what
(23:47):
turns them on usually helps.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let me ask you this because for me, you know,
I've been in the industry for quite some years, but
then I've been retired and I've been out of well
in forefront and perform me for over twelve years, almost
thirteen years now, actually be thirteen years in about a
month or two really honestly, but still, but I understanding
(24:14):
my fan base and what they want. I have been
blessed that a lot of my fan base has been
able to transition over to where I'm at. Now. You
understand what I'm saying to this point, and I believe
me and Dog Pound Mike Mike has talked about this
before and other things, is that even when communicating a
lot with those day ones, it's more than just a
(24:37):
fantasy that they have, and so it's more of And
when I say this, I know people gonna say, really, Naomi,
it's like a relationship, but not a lot, not like
a love love type of relationship. But it's that you know,
I got you or you got me in the sense
of communicating. Does that make sense? So in that instinct,
(25:03):
that's one thing that I loved dog Pam Mike. Mike
said it before that I had, at one point in time,
did a whole campaign on fall in love with Naomi Banks.
It was a whole fall in love campaign and it
was a business tactic. But then I found that truly
people were not just falling in love with me because
(25:24):
of the tits and as they were falling in love
with me because of my personality. How genuine was So
then when I do meet a person, you know, going
to conventions in person or if they had a session
with me with dom session, it was like, oh, wow,
you are a real, you know, a person in you
know of humanity. I think that's part when it comes
(25:45):
down to you know, sex workers and stuff like that,
that we have no we have no kind of character,
you know, like we just excuse me, dirty little horse
that has no sense at all. And honestly, a lot
of the people that I've worked with, not all, but
a lot of the people that I work with are
some great people that have, you know, great intentions when
(26:09):
it comes to you know, this work, and it was
something I wanted to go back. It was something that
you said about you know some clients that has you know,
certain type of disadvantage mentally, you know, that are unable
to have a relationship with others because people look at
(26:32):
them a certain different way. Just not too long ago,
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine.
I said, what if it will be a way? And
I'm about to give this out to somebody because I
don't know if I'm I don't know if this in
my path to do this, but something a platform specifically
for them, you understand, for those that are unable to
(26:53):
whether they are handicapped in some type of way, that
they are unable to be able to date or meet
someone that can they can fall in love with. You know,
It's like, I don't I haven't seen any platform like
that that would definitely cater to those men and women
with those needs. I don't know if you've been to
any conventions or how many conventions you've been there, but
(27:16):
you see a lot of those that come out and
support I have some great fans that were, you know,
in that that way. I don't want to call them
handicap or nothing like that, but that world would call
them but for them, and they are loyal to the core,
and they they have that sense of lonely nest for them.
(27:38):
So that's when when you said with the creating the
dream Girls thing, that's when I look at that, that
your platform like that as well, not just for that,
but I kind of looked at that, but I hadn't
seen that being done for you know, like that. What
do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, I think that's a great not even think of
it like that eithern No, but I think, no, that's
that's a great direction that I haven't thought about either.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
To be honest.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
But I do agree that I think there needs to
be a platform where it's more customized for the person
who's using it, but also more personal, especially now with
AI coming out and AI girlfriends and stuff like that.
There sex work is still it does create the human
(28:30):
experience that I think is really important.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, all right, so this is the time that we
opened the floor, We opened the lines. Are you ready
for this?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
All right? About beautiful people? All right, so we are
going to open up the lines for miss Pepper cap
right now, So if you guys can give us a
call at seven six five two seven five one five
two seven. That's seven six five two seven one five
to two seven and that apartlemic might work. Actually put
up a link as well if you want to join
in this conversation. Again, y'all, we we got guests here,
(29:05):
so I want youry to keep sex. Don't come in here, rude.
All right, it's congratulations on your nomination for your podcast.
Can you tell me more about your podcast?
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Thank you? Yeah, I got. I made it for Avian
this past here.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I so my podcast is Spicy Spectrum and it basically
focuses on table conversations, but I also share my experiences
working in the adult industry. I've also brought on sex
workers who have spoken about their stories. But the main
(29:48):
part of my podcast is to humanize those who make
content and humanize those who consume content. Yeah, yeah, so
that's it's a a safe place to dive into taboo topics.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Beautiful the podcast, they were, Thank you all right, So
you want to go to to the BTG crew, go.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
To a comment here and hid would you agree that
if any man experienced abandonment in the past, it will
impact their sexual behavior.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Mm hmm, yeah, So what I mean The first thing
I thought about was, I know for and this may
be a weird answer, but I know for certain men
they channel it in different ways. The men who typically
come to me for the mommy dommy or for me
(30:50):
to fantasize about being their mother, a lot of them
have a background in terms of abandonment from a parent,
and they channel it that way. That's the only way
I can really think about it. But I know that
in terms of their sexual behavior and abandonment from their parents,
that's how they channeled that is.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Doing age player.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Right along those lines. So let me ask you this
because I know these are some questions that I had
gotten when I was in the industry, because those are
parts that I played a lot. Is like a mommy
deerest type of step mom, stepmom type you know from
that for you, how has that been for you as
playing someone's mother, you know on the side, And how
(31:38):
did you feel about that coming from you?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
It was weird at first, but I get so many
of those calls all the time.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's normal.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
At first I thought it was odd, but then if
you dig a little deeper. People have their reasons for
why they want to do that role play. I may
have triggered something that they enjoy. But it is weird
acting out in different types of people. And I've I've
done it all the taboo ahe plane and everything like.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
That, and I'm used to it now, but I wasn't
at first.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, okay, well we do have a call a ride
here right now, Jamar Jaskay.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
I had a surged the question that I asked in
the comments, one of them in particularly that I have
a distability you wouldn't know unless you were physically around me.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
But to your point, it has for men in particular.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
I can stick from experience that it has been a
challenge with my disability now in terms of sexual performance wise,
but just maintaining the dynamics of a relationship that is
sexual because I get looked at differently because of the destability,
and it does packed loans because the christis stem of abandonment.
(33:03):
So I wanted to know. My question is, how would
you help someone compensate for that and interact.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Them with you.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
In terms of abandonment. I would honestly set boundaries at first.
I would never want to give you an empty promise,
and you know, setting boundaries as to what you expect,
but not also.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Creating a situation.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Where you think it's going to go any further and
me just going along with it just to get paid
or something like that. I don't I don't like to
let anyone on. Also, I have a disability to to
be not everyone knows what.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I actually stutter.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
So I'm not stuttering now because I'm comfortable. But I
do have patience with people. Well, I always like to
get them, get to know people before I jump into
a cam show, especially if they have a disability, and
just get to know them and what works and what
doesn't because I know as someone with a disability, I
(34:15):
don't like people to do certain things or complete my
sentences for example, And so it's usually an upfront communication.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Prior to.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
And my other question you had already kind of both
of you kind of actually touched on it. With the
empathy and empathy aspect, again, I have experienced a lack
of it, and I was wondering, in your in your profession,
how much has that been very challenging if you will
(34:55):
to interact with people or two people because you also
nessly you've collaborated the power recently, you know, does the
empathy empathy aspect make it difficult for you, you know,
to interact with potential clients or collaborating with different partners,
because I've experienced that, not not from a tax work
(35:17):
a point of view, but on a personal side.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I I will say that me being in this line
of work, it does impact me having empathy. I think
that's your question is what does what I do impact
the empathy I have for others just throughout my life.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Too a personal, personally and professional thought.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, So I I will say it is challenging
having empathy when I love my customers, but it's also
challenging to when I'm online and people right really mean
things to me and I am human, and so I
feel like that impacts me having empathy, but also just
(36:10):
seeing people as individuals and not trying to group everyone
together and stereotyping someone and just basing it off of
me getting to know them personally. But it is impacted
in certain ways based on interactions that I have with
people online who aren't my customers.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, you know, I I'm gonna piggyback off of that,
and I can definitely agree with that. I think, especially
coming from this feel of work, you can be more
empathetic and you see a different perspective when it comes
to different people because now you're dealing with, you know,
some of people's truths, honestly, because a lot of people
are unable to be their full self without their mask
(36:59):
on when they're talking into regular people, because there are
certain stigmas when it comes when we talk about sexuality,
when we talk about loneliness of men, when we talk
about sensitivity of men, and even of a women tapping
into their freak side of things. There are so many
stigmas to them that they're not allowed to be this
full person who they are with regular everyday people. So
(37:22):
when they are talking to people like us that are
in the sex work feel, it allows them to, you know,
to bring their walls down a little bit more. And
so for me in my case, I do look at
I have become more empathetic for them as well as
other people, because how just knowing how you are in
(37:46):
this world and you're not able to be your full self?
Speaker 7 (37:50):
Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I agree, And actually it's funny when when I'm out
in public, people watch people differently, like our certain thoughts
come up. I don't know, Like I I'm always curious
about people and what they're into. Or if I see
someone put together, I'm like, they may have a dirty
(38:13):
little secret, or I don't know, it's just I look.
I just look deeper when it when it when it
comes to people and even like and I'm not justifying
people being harmed or anything like that, but when I
see certain things happen that's like on the news, I'm
not shocked, to be honest, Like if you see some
(38:35):
sexual crime, I'm not promoting it or agreeing, but I
see the world differently now and I have a different
perspective as to that too, and just seeing all different
sides when it comes to sexuality too as well.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I have my life question because I know other people
are trying to get in What would you say is
the most challenging thing both, you know, as far as
the attachment and I don't mean physical attachment or mental
(39:17):
attach or emotional I'm just just in the presence of
being someone that oh, this person is interesting overall, and
then there's that person that male, that man gets some
sort of attachment. I know you established the word boundary
a few times that I know boundary does make it
(39:38):
very significant part of establishing not getting to attach. But
I can see for myself personally, I've had women being
attached to me too soon or or not at all,
and it was challenging because I didn't know how to
deal with it.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
So I'm asking you from your perspective.
Speaker 10 (40:01):
How challenging is that for you if you come across
the ficial west one where it is an attachment issue
or you know, how do you how do you handle that?
How do you sugget as a man I should handle that,
not necessarily you just in general.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I mean honestly, when I had mentioned how some people
just end having chat sessions with me if that helps them,
if they know they don't want to fall in love,
I mean, sometimes that's the best you can do as
not seeing someone again if you feel like you're developing feelings,
(40:37):
that's just my opinion, because you don't want it to
go any further or have yourself hurt by attaching yourself
even after boundaries were established. And I respect customers that
choose to stop sessions because they're falling in love and
they don't want to get to attach, and they know themselves.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, it's all about really setting the boundaries a point period.
That's that's just what it is. And even in your case, Jade,
so when you say that they you know a lot
of women that has become attached to you, but you're
not attached and vice versa. There's somewhere down the line
that those those boundaries have been blorwed. And sometimes it
(41:22):
can be on the part of the person who set
the boundaries boundaries because they don't want to hurt feelings.
You understand what I'm saying, But then the long run,
feelings do get hurt. So this is where you have
to be Okay, I have to set this boundaries because
I don't want neither one of us to get hurt
in this situation. And understand with our what is our
(41:43):
relationship right now? What is our relationship? And it is
there's room to grow in our relationship, whether it's to
be a lover, whether it's to be a friend, whether
it's to be whatever. That's determined on you in whoever
you are in that relationship with, because we all have relationships,
even you calling in we have a relationship, does that
(42:04):
make sense? But it's a level of different relationship that
we have, and you just have to be honest with
yourself on setting those boundaries. You know, a lot of
sometimes we get, you know, kind of hype like ah,
this dude like me, or this girl likes me, this
girl over here liking me, this girl like, come on,
we gotta stop playing all that because we are playing
with people in motion. So it's like, now we got
(42:26):
to step up and be real and like, Okay, this
is my boundaries, especially when it comes to and I
understand what she means about boundaries because I'm like that
when I was full blown in it. You know, you
have to set it because if you don't, then that
gives them permission to be able to do with anything
they want to do to you. Does that make sense?
Speaker 10 (42:46):
And it makes perfect sense because and again this is
a piggyback on what you just say. When you had
another adult performer on your show a couple of months ago.
I'm not gonna reveal their name unless you unless you're
comfortable with me doing so. But I thought you okay,
(43:08):
I thought of both of your careers over the years,
and one of the things that she had mentioned since
she's been out of it was the difficulty in coming
across men who did not respect her boundaries. And I
find it very interesting that the theme more so and
(43:33):
this loneless topic is the boundary aspect. I find it
very compellingly interesting because not a lot of women that
I've been counted, I'm not saying universally speaking, I'm just
saying my personal experience that I've encountered make it about
their boundaries outweighs my boundaries instead of our boundaries together
synchronize them. And that's that's one of the things that
(43:56):
I've taken away as that having that empathy and empathy
and sympathy aspect and dealing with someone who has been
going through some lonely period in my adult life, and
that it's becomes very emotionally challenging now physically, but just
most mentally and emotionally challenging to overcome because the fact
(44:20):
I have trust boundary issue, being able to trust the
vulnerability that will lead to having you as a sex
partner or to connect with you sexually in a way
that is both pleasurable.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
And enjoyable and desirable. So on that note, as always me,
thank you for letting come in.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
It's a pleasure man interacting with you as well, and
I will be around when I can each and every
Thursday possible.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I hope so, and I hope I hope you tuning
in to next month. And I made serious love and
mental health. That's going to be an amazing, amazing series there.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
So and we need to talk about that because talk
to you about that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, and you the reason why, baby, So I'll expect to.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Hear from you.
Speaker 10 (45:07):
Okay, I'm gonna shoot you an email update two about
what I mentioned to you about my personal life. We
will send your update in regards to that. That will
lead into the mental health topic.
Speaker 7 (45:17):
For next month.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
All right, sure things, Thank you so much. You have
a great one.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
All right, you too, all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right, all write my beautiful people.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Uh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Thank you for that. Dog Mike, thank you for that.
All right, you're back, all right, So we got another
collar on here, rock Hard.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Hey, Hey, hey, you got hello there, you got what's
going on with you?
Speaker 12 (45:57):
I'm doing all right, It's beautiful day, nice days.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
You got a question?
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Yeah, I got a question.
Speaker 12 (46:08):
I know you mentioned role playing right mission that you're
into role plane. Have you ever got like a role
playing request.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
That was like a no for you?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I typically do everything the only thing I don't do
is anything that involves blood, which I've gotten requests for
me to like stab myself with the fork.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Like anything else. To be honest, I'll do, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
I don't do anything that involves harming myself or even
the person harming themselves.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
But I'm I do a lot of taboo things that
other people wouldn't normally do.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Yeah, I heard that. How about you nail what like?
Speaker 12 (46:54):
Have you ever like when it came to like role playing,
like in your career and stuff, is there like the
level where you was like, Nope, can't do it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You know, after a while, After a while, the the
mommy thing kind of got to me. So then I
will start to say no to those type of things.
And actually, when I retired and I was getting a
lot of race dating custom videos requests, and I remember
I just said it was like a no. After a while,
(47:24):
it was like, Okay, no, I'm not gonna do this anymore.
Those are the type of ones that I would not,
you know, kind of do those.
Speaker 12 (47:32):
Yeah, all right, Yeah, I was curious about that one.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
You got a favorite rapper?
Speaker 6 (47:43):
I don't really, I mean, I don't really listen to
rap to be honest.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Because.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Not at all.
Speaker 12 (47:52):
If you got a favorite rapper, okay, I should say,
that's what I should say. You have a favorite music artist?
Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's about a question I have so many. I listened
to a lot of I guess doga Cat the.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Rock with Dog she Fired.
Speaker 12 (48:16):
It's always a pleasure chatting with your dog, Paul, Mike, Mike, Naomi,
the best.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Appreciate Oh Naomi. I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 12 (48:25):
You do like like therapy sessions, like one on one sessions?
Speaker 7 (48:29):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (48:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
How do I reach out for one?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Hit me my dear you know, because I hate to
say this because everybody will be hitting me in my DM.
Email me, Email me at info at x Naomi dot com.
Speaker 12 (48:48):
Appreciate you, Yeah, all right, I have a great one.
Appreciate your always.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
All right, thank you, Rod, I'll be good. All right,
My beautiful people, we are still here on AX that podcast.
I am here with the beautiful Pepper Cat. If you
guys have any questions for her, please give us a
call A seven six five two seven five one five
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five two seven. Also do Mike Cat put up a
(49:16):
link as well. You come on and join the join us.
But we do have a caller on the phone. All right, Hey.
Speaker 11 (49:24):
Coller, Hey there my beloved Naomi Banks.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Hey Joseph.
Speaker 11 (49:31):
Happy to Thursday and happy early Easter. Same to you, ye, Mike,
and to your guests. Peppercat, if she's listening, I'm sorry
for the fact that she has a stuttering problem, and
(49:53):
I'm not gonna make fun of it. I'm not gonna
do some like a porky pig and press sure and
I'm not going to do that. Not gonna do it,
not gonna do it. My question is, even though your
(50:14):
days of porn are over, which scenes or porn sex
scenes do you enjoy doing with which men? Do you
enjoy doing it with black men which I will not
be upset or have a problem with that, or white men?
(50:38):
That's my question.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
It's for Minaomi.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay. So Peppercat does not perform, has not performed with
anyone as of yet. She just does Cammy on, you know,
just camy on her own. And for me, there's you know,
I enjoyed them both in my tops. I have both
of them. I both have both men, and I mean
(51:14):
men and women, both black and white. It didn't make
a difference on the day that I had a scene
with them, and it was a great day. It was
a great day. So I have my favorites and it's
come from both. So I never really looked at it,
you know, as you know, if it was a better,
if the white guy was better, the black guy was better,
it was just it was a great day at whoever
(51:35):
that scene where, whether it's Manuel, or whether it's Lex
or Marcus or LT or mister Pete or you understand
what I'm saying. So those are some of my tops
in there. And if you can see that, they're both
black and white men. So I don't have if one's
better than the other because they all got their own style.
Speaker 11 (51:56):
Yeah, I wasn't sure. I got no problem. If you're
doing the scene with blad man, I'm willing to watch
that or watch you with a white man. I just
got I just got done watching a classic scene a
minute ago on a porn track with you and James
(52:18):
Dean okay from Sweet Center.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh okay, yeah, mister James Dean, Okay, okay, all right,
all right, Joseph, thank you for calling Ian and you
you have an amazing.
Speaker 11 (52:33):
That Oh no, you may you feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Oh no, no, no, no no, I don't know if
that was your but no, that that's not what happened,
did not, Happy baby, I know you back now, but
that did not happen. But I want you to have
an amazing weekend, all right, And one last thing, yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 11 (52:51):
Jo I forget. I watched the last two episodes of
tonight's episode and your little beautiful as ys, specially with
the flower in your hair. Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank You're welcome. You all have a good night, specially Peppercat,
(53:11):
and have a great.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Happy alright YouTube. All right, all right, my beautiful people. Again,
I just thank you for just joining us in this
conversation altogether. Just period, Peppercat. Tell my listeners where they
can see you, edwre can follow you at if they
(53:33):
can get a one on one, you know, if they
wanted to with you or cam, let them let them know,
let them know.
Speaker 6 (53:40):
Sure, you can visit design your Dreamgirl dot com.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
That's my main hub for my social media adult sites, phone, segs,
porn videos. If you're interested, just visit design your Dreamgirl
dot com and you can find me literally anywhere.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
All right, that's beautiful all right, my beautiful people, I
see all of my BTG crew, and I want to
thank you all for just tuning in. I thank you
for all the calls that came through. Thank you all
for the continued support. I want to remind you guys
of next month in May. It's a really special month
for us because we are truly dedicating the whole entire
(54:23):
month to love and mental health. And we definitely have
some amazing guests that's coming on from therapist doctor Will.
Our resident therapists will be here every week of May,
and I can't wait for that. Yeah, it's gonna be
a good one. Again, Miss Peppercat, thank you and congratulations
(54:44):
on the a v N nomination, baby, and can the
podcasting world over there? And again, beautiful people, if you
need any love, sex, relationship advice, you know where to
hit us up. If you don't, it's at ax Naomi
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Speaker 8 (55:20):
My mind are Pepper and we're gonna have to get
you back in talking about the mail loan this good dog.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
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We have another amazing guest coming. And as I always said,
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Speaker 6 (03:11):
You hi, I'm doing well. How are you?
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your story. You begin your career as a news producer. Oh,
a unique transition into adult entertainment.
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Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, So I'm Pepricat and I started as a news producer.
So I produced night news, morning news, life, lifestyle, and
I was doing that for about three and a half years.
And then I found out about phone sex and selling
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panties and doing online adult work, and I was really
interested and and I kind of played around with it.
I did some live camming with my mask on. I
kind of lived a double life. I was producing but
also camming, and then I was also selling panties and
(04:15):
I was like, Wow, this is actually really cool, and
I wanted to travel and be more financially stable, but
also still do something exciting. And I found that I
really enjoyed doing this line of work. And now I
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do it full time and it's not my dirty secret anymore,
but it's something that I really love doing. I love
connecting with my fans, but also exploring my own sexuality
doing this line of work.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, you know that is such a powerful leap from
being news entertainment. I know what that leap looks like.
But what were some of the biggest challenges for you
that faced during that transition and how did you you
find the strength to just push through to you know,
allow your dirty little secret to be.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think the biggest challenge was keeping it a secret
for so long. My parents just found out a couple
of months ago, and they thought I was working for
the news, and then they thought I was a tutor.
And so I think keeping this part of my life
hidden and not having anyone to talk to you about
(05:38):
or tell them about except for my friends. I think
that was the hardest part. Is lying to my family
but I did it. I didn't do it to hurt them.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I didn't. I didn't want to hurt.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Them, And so it's kind of like something that I
kept inside. But now they know. But it's fine, they
don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But let me ask you, how how long have you
been in the adult industry?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
In June, I'll be going on about three years now,
full time, not halftime, part time. I did it for
about I would say four years, but full time three.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Years, three years?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, all right, So let's talk about male loneliness. You know,
you shared in the beginning that you started off with
cam and selling underwear. That's something that's often overlooked with
the call when we talk about men loneliness or dismiss
So what have some of your what have you observed
in your work and interaction with men that opened your
(06:40):
eyes to their emotional struggle?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I think the first thing I notice with men period
when I first started, and I guess it could relate
to mal loneliness, is that a lot of them live
double lives in a way that they don't always feel
like they can always vocalize what they want or vocalize
what they're really into. So they come to us, and
(07:06):
I know that you were in this industry as well,
so I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
But I.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Also noticed that when I did live camming, so I
was live camming with a bunch of men coming in
the chat room, I would notice that when I did
speak to them, and even during private cam shows, a
lot of them would tell me that they've never had
sex before, that they've never been in relationships.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
I've seen an increase.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Of younger men coming to me for cam shows and
phone sex, which I did experience them when I first started,
but I see a lot more of them coming to
me for companionship too, the girlfriend experience, and a lot
of the same complaints or challenges that they vocalized when
(08:01):
it comes to having trouble dating right, not having sex
at all, right.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I guess it's very surprising, especially when you when
you talk about men about having difficulties, especially having conversations
with women better yet of not being in relationships and
having sex, and the whole thing is about the loneliness.
I guess we tend not to really feel that men
are lonely, you know, because they're men, you know, and
(08:31):
we know, you know, because this is the industry that
we've been in, is that, you know, men are the
biggest consumers of this. I think one misconception and I
don't you can agree with me or not, is that
a lot of times is that a lot of is
companionship and not just about sex. Sometimes it's about the
conversation that it can have with with you and be
(08:52):
open about their sexual preference or you know, or some
of their fantasies or even just a just to just listen,
you know, right.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, no, So you know, society tells men to stay
strong and not to show their emotions, but that takes
a toll, right, So how do you think that these
norms affect their ability to connect deeply with others?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I do agree that it goes beyond sex in terms
of being vulnerable, and I think it allows men, from
what I've observed, to have a silent struggle with things
that they just don't feel comfortable speaking up about. A
lot of them, like I said, come to us instead
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of being open with people who are their friends, or
their family or even their spouse. And just based on
what I've seen, there's a lot of secrecy and just
not opening up, and I think it does get pent
up at some times for certain men more than others
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in terms of internalizing certain ways of being a man.
But I do know that a lot of times men
they do practice some sort of what they think is
their masculinity with me and other women like me for
cam calls or phone sex. So I know sometimes if
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a man is he has a powerful position in life
and he doesn't always show his emotions or he's not vulnerable,
they'll use my platform for me to put them in
a position where they experience some sort of masculinity different
than what they actually show to other people in terms
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of them being submissive, or them getting into sissification, dressing
up like women and just kind of playing around with
that in terms of what it means to channel their
emotions in a sexual way. But it still allows them
(11:11):
to go deep into themselves and kind of question why
they think what they think.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And so that's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, Well, thank you for sharing. So let me ask
you this being a sex worker in so first let
me two parts. One is it do you just do
camming or have you went into the deep end like
mainstream hardcore video?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So I do camming, phone sex. I've done collaborations, but
it's wrestling, fantasy wrestling I'll do on camera, which is
a little different than what I do, but not like
hardcore sex with men or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Not yet yet, not yet.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So my next question is what has been the biggest backlash? Well,
better yet? Have you had any backlash from being a
sex worker since you have come out of your dirty
little secret, especially when it comes online, have you had
any backlash, and if any how has that made you
feel We're being so open about your career now?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I know certain members of my family, and not
all of them. They are super religious and.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
So they do not like what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And I've even had them share my secret to other
people that I didn't want out, which is fine.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean, it's out.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
That's the most backlash. If there's backlash in terms of
my college or high school, I don't know about it.
I don't really go on my personal pages anymore, just
because I just don't really want people to ask me.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
About it on those platforms.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But that's the main part of the back the backlash,
and then of course online trolls and people, you know,
typical people calling me names, death threats, just crazy stuff
like that for me posting a picture or if they
know I haven't only fans harassment online. But that's kind
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of typical, you know, with trolls and online.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right, right, So do you have any specific stories of
feedback that you've seen that can shed light on just
how real the loneliness can be.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
I mean, I have so many.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I guess when it comes to loneliness, I know,
for me, in terms of.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Camming, for example, I have a lot of guys who
may be so I had.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I don't want to say name or anything, but I
know I've I've been in contact with some for camming
who have never had sex before, where he cam with
me for.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
A couple of years.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
He never had a girlfriend, but he used campsites to
find some sort of companionship. I know I have certain
customers who even have autism or some type of disability
that impacts their social skills, and so I just meet
them where they are when it comes to speaking to
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women and doing sexual interactions. But yeah, for the loneliness,
that's a big one. I know that I get a
lot of men even if they're divorced, and I know
they come to me for cam shows and experiencing some
type of companionship or some type of sexual pleasure, even
(14:58):
if it's virtually the they may feel like they're missing on,
missing out now that they are separated or divorced from
their spouse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right, so let's let's shift. Let's shift. Let's shift a
little bit into the adult industry. Okay, what's one thing
that you wish that people understood about being an adult
entertainer that they probably don't.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think the first one is that I think a
lot of people think that that as easy. That's the first,
that it's easy. That it's not easy. It takes a
lot of emotional intelligence, it takes a lot of reading
people being sexually mature and not laughing at someone unless
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that's like a kink for them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
That's that's one.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Another is that a lot of people assume people who
work in our industry are not intelligent or smart, and
that we just chose this because we can't do anything else.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
A lot of us are smart, and even what people
think is work or not work. Sometimes people assume that
what we.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Do is not considered work.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
But if they were to be in our shoes, that
they would see how much work it takes behind the
scenes to do this line of work. And then also
people always assume that you have to come from a
background in terms of being sexually assaulted or raped, which
(16:37):
I'm not saying that that's not the case for all
of us, but it's not always the case for everyone.
You know, just like any other job, there's people who
have been sexually assaulted and who have not been.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
It's the same for our industry too.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So yeah, you know, and I guess that kind of
go into the next question. You kind of spoke on
it a little bit about the stigma around adult work.
You know, there's the slogan that says sex work is work,
that work is work. What do you think that causes
the biggest misconception about performance.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I think people have a hard time separating sex from business,
and I think it's because we do it all the
time for free, you know, when when you put a
price on it in terms of sexual pleasure, it's hard
for people to see the difference. And so I think
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that's the main part of where people get confused. And
I think that's part of the reason why people think
it's easy, just because they just think of like the
sexual part, But like you were saying earlier, it goes
deeper than that. I mean, people are telling us their
lives and you have to have some.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Type of maturity.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
There's a lot of hard things that you may that
may traumatize you. I mean, it's just it's not easy.
And sex work is a place where people use us
as outlets. But sometimes if people just don't understand, they
just glance over that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, you know, that's a beautiful way to put it
as an outlet. I think that goes in detail on
how important empathy is, how important that empathy is is
to have so for and this is my question with
empathy for people, How important is empathy for people creating
the content and the people consuming it.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
It's very important.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
When I mean for us who makes the content, having
empathy for us being vulnerable. I think it's hard for
people to do that. But I think for me, what
I've learned in this industry, I have mostly male customers.
(19:04):
I've gotten a couple of women, but not not too many.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
At least for me.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I've learned how to have a sense of empathy for
men and their sexuality and their sexual urges that I
had no idea I knew a little bit about it,
but I didn't know as much as I do now,
and I definitely have more empathy for them when it
(19:31):
comes to sexual urges that they battle that I just
had no idea. And then also the male loneliness too, right,
But I think it's important to have empathy for both
and to not put people down for watching porn or
seeing a sex worker. I mean, we all need love
and intimacy.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
You know something, I've just been sitting here listening and
you know y'all talking, so you know about male loneliness
and things like that, but this the dog pounds.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So I come from a whole different concept.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
But I guess what I want to ask ask you
is there's kind of a difference between I guess for
men who watch porn and they won't see the poor
they want to see the counts, they won't see the
beautiful women and they want to see the action. But
you and I have known Nami for a long time,
so I know you talking about the interaction with the
guys and loneliness and talking to them more than the
(20:29):
actual act of sex. So what how do you keep
you know, how do you keep it together on that
part because when you come and talk to a guy,
I mean they literally can can fall in love with you.
And like I said, I know, Naomi, for a long
time you have shows falling well love with and people
actually do.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
So how do you keep.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
It together from guys who just want to see you
in the sexual act and guys who want more conversation
and want to know more about you in their lives.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, there have been guys who have fallen in love.
Typically if they do that, they just stop talking to me.
I don't take it personally.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I just know they you know, they just want to
not fall in love with the camp model, which which
I understand. Certain guys I just have to block them.
To be honest, they get a little obsessed. But for
the most part, I make it clear in the beginning.
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I set my boundaries.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I let them know up front.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I know that this is a fantasy. I do not
meet in person. This is what's going to happen, this
is what's not going to happen. And if they break
the rules, then I just block them and report them.
But I haven't gotten any like soccers in person online
I have, but for the most part, I just set
(21:53):
my boundaries.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So let's talk about the dream. To design your dream.
That's your project, and I think it's both innovative and
deeply human. What inspired you to create this experience?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
So?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I wanted to create an experience.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That my fans have with me on my own platform.
I wanted to provide a safe place where they can
be naughty and live out their fantasies and a place
where they feel like they're not judged. And so I
have I do one on one camming with them, or
(22:31):
if they want a custom video, or if they just
want to message me and talk or even on the phone.
I just create a space where it's my own platform
and where they can live out their dream and have
it come to life.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah. I love that. I love you. You sound like
me a little bit.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
You feel that this space is helping helping people feel
safe about espressing their desires.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They a lot of them are current customers, I feel,
I mean, I they've I've known them for years. But
I feel like my platform is safe just because I
mean I've I've been doing this for a couple of
years now, and.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
A lot of them trust me.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I always speak with them beforehand, to ask them what
they like, what they don't like. I don't want to
cross any boundaries with my with my customers through this
or do something that they don't feel comfortable with. But
I just think just having the conversation up front and
just getting to know them more in terms of what
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turns them on usually helps.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let me ask you this because for me, you know,
I've been in the industry for quite some years, but
then I've been retired and I've been out of well
in forefront and perform me for over twelve years, almost
thirteen years now, actually be thirteen years in about a
month or two really honestly, but still, but I understanding
(24:14):
my fan base and what they want. I have been
blessed that a lot of my fan base has been
able to transition over to where I'm at. Now. You
understand what I'm saying to this point, and I believe
me and Dog Pound Mike Mike has talked about this
before and other things, is that even when communicating a
lot with those day ones, it's more than just a
(24:37):
fantasy that they have, and so it's more of And
when I say this, I know people gonna say, really, Naomi,
it's like a relationship, but not a lot, not like
a love love type of relationship. But it's that you know,
I got you or you got me in the sense
of communicating. Does that make sense? So in that instinct,
(25:03):
that's one thing that I loved dog Pam Mike. Mike
said it before that I had, at one point in time,
did a whole campaign on fall in love with Naomi Banks.
It was a whole fall in love campaign and it
was a business tactic. But then I found that truly
people were not just falling in love with me because
(25:24):
of the tits and as they were falling in love
with me because of my personality. How genuine was So
then when I do meet a person, you know, going
to conventions in person or if they had a session
with me with dom session, it was like, oh, wow,
you are a real, you know, a person in you
know of humanity. I think that's part when it comes
(25:45):
down to you know, sex workers and stuff like that,
that we have no we have no kind of character,
you know, like we just excuse me, dirty little horse
that has no sense at all. And honestly, a lot
of the people that I've worked with, not all, but
a lot of the people that I work with are
some great people that have, you know, great intentions when
(26:09):
it comes to you know, this work, and it was
something I wanted to go back. It was something that
you said about you know some clients that has you know,
certain type of disadvantage mentally, you know, that are unable
to have a relationship with others because people look at
(26:32):
them a certain different way. Just not too long ago,
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine.
I said, what if it will be a way? And
I'm about to give this out to somebody because I
don't know if I'm I don't know if this in
my path to do this, but something a platform specifically
for them, you understand, for those that are unable to
(26:53):
whether they are handicapped in some type of way, that
they are unable to be able to date or meet
someone that can they can fall in love with. You know,
It's like, I don't I haven't seen any platform like
that that would definitely cater to those men and women
with those needs. I don't know if you've been to
any conventions or how many conventions you've been there, but
(27:16):
you see a lot of those that come out and
support I have some great fans that were, you know,
in that that way. I don't want to call them
handicap or nothing like that, but that world would call
them but for them, and they are loyal to the core,
and they they have that sense of lonely nest for them.
(27:38):
So that's when when you said with the creating the
dream Girls thing, that's when I look at that, that
your platform like that as well, not just for that,
but I kind of looked at that, but I hadn't
seen that being done for you know, like that. What
do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, I think that's a great not even think of
it like that eithern No, but I think, no, that's
that's a great direction that I haven't thought about either.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
To be honest.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
But I do agree that I think there needs to
be a platform where it's more customized for the person
who's using it, but also more personal, especially now with
AI coming out and AI girlfriends and stuff like that.
There sex work is still it does create the human
(28:30):
experience that I think is really important.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, all right, so this is the time that we
opened the floor, We opened the lines. Are you ready
for this?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
All right? About beautiful people? All right, so we are
going to open up the lines for miss Pepper cap
right now, So if you guys can give us a
call at seven six five two seven five one five
two seven. That's seven six five two seven one five
to two seven and that apartlemic might work. Actually put
up a link as well if you want to join
in this conversation. Again, y'all, we we got guests here,
(29:05):
so I want youry to keep sex. Don't come in here, rude.
All right, it's congratulations on your nomination for your podcast.
Can you tell me more about your podcast?
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Thank you? Yeah, I got. I made it for Avian
this past here.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I so my podcast is Spicy Spectrum and it basically
focuses on table conversations, but I also share my experiences
working in the adult industry. I've also brought on sex
workers who have spoken about their stories. But the main
(29:48):
part of my podcast is to humanize those who make
content and humanize those who consume content. Yeah, yeah, so
that's it's a a safe place to dive into taboo topics.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Beautiful the podcast, they were, Thank you all right, So
you want to go to to the BTG crew, go.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
To a comment here and hid would you agree that
if any man experienced abandonment in the past, it will
impact their sexual behavior.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Mm hmm, yeah, So what I mean The first thing
I thought about was, I know for and this may
be a weird answer, but I know for certain men
they channel it in different ways. The men who typically
come to me for the mommy dommy or for me
(30:50):
to fantasize about being their mother, a lot of them
have a background in terms of abandonment from a parent,
and they channel it that way. That's the only way
I can really think about it. But I know that
in terms of their sexual behavior and abandonment from their parents,
that's how they channeled that is.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Doing age player.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Right along those lines. So let me ask you this
because I know these are some questions that I had
gotten when I was in the industry, because those are
parts that I played a lot. Is like a mommy
deerest type of step mom, stepmom type you know from
that for you, how has that been for you as
playing someone's mother, you know on the side, And how
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did you feel about that coming from you?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
It was weird at first, but I get so many
of those calls all the time.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's normal.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
At first I thought it was odd, but then if
you dig a little deeper. People have their reasons for
why they want to do that role play. I may
have triggered something that they enjoy. But it is weird
acting out in different types of people. And I've I've
done it all the taboo ahe plane and everything like.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
That, and I'm used to it now, but I wasn't
at first.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, okay, well we do have a call a ride
here right now, Jamar Jaskay.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
I had a surged the question that I asked in
the comments, one of them in particularly that I have
a distability you wouldn't know unless you were physically around me.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
But to your point, it has for men in particular.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
I can stick from experience that it has been a
challenge with my disability now in terms of sexual performance wise,
but just maintaining the dynamics of a relationship that is
sexual because I get looked at differently because of the destability,
and it does packed loans because the christis stem of abandonment.
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So I wanted to know. My question is, how would
you help someone compensate for that and interact.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Them with you.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
In terms of abandonment. I would honestly set boundaries at first.
I would never want to give you an empty promise,
and you know, setting boundaries as to what you expect,
but not also.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Creating a situation.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Where you think it's going to go any further and
me just going along with it just to get paid
or something like that. I don't I don't like to
let anyone on. Also, I have a disability to to
be not everyone knows what.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I actually stutter.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
So I'm not stuttering now because I'm comfortable. But I
do have patience with people. Well, I always like to
get them, get to know people before I jump into
a cam show, especially if they have a disability, and
just get to know them and what works and what
doesn't because I know as someone with a disability, I
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don't like people to do certain things or complete my
sentences for example, And so it's usually an upfront communication.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Prior to.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
And my other question you had already kind of both
of you kind of actually touched on it. With the
empathy and empathy aspect, again, I have experienced a lack
of it, and I was wondering, in your in your profession,
how much has that been very challenging if you will
(34:55):
to interact with people or two people because you also
nessly you've collaborated the power recently, you know, does the
empathy empathy aspect make it difficult for you, you know,
to interact with potential clients or collaborating with different partners,
because I've experienced that, not not from a tax work
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a point of view, but on a personal side.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I I will say that me being in this line
of work, it does impact me having empathy. I think
that's your question is what does what I do impact
the empathy I have for others just throughout my life.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Too a personal, personally and professional thought.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, So I I will say it is challenging
having empathy when I love my customers, but it's also
challenging to when I'm online and people right really mean
things to me and I am human, and so I
feel like that impacts me having empathy, but also just
(36:10):
seeing people as individuals and not trying to group everyone
together and stereotyping someone and just basing it off of
me getting to know them personally. But it is impacted
in certain ways based on interactions that I have with
people online who aren't my customers.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, you know, I I'm gonna piggyback off of that,
and I can definitely agree with that. I think, especially
coming from this feel of work, you can be more
empathetic and you see a different perspective when it comes
to different people because now you're dealing with, you know,
some of people's truths, honestly, because a lot of people
are unable to be their full self without their mask
(36:59):
on when they're talking into regular people, because there are
certain stigmas when it comes when we talk about sexuality,
when we talk about loneliness of men, when we talk
about sensitivity of men, and even of a women tapping
into their freak side of things. There are so many
stigmas to them that they're not allowed to be this
full person who they are with regular everyday people. So
(37:22):
when they are talking to people like us that are
in the sex work feel, it allows them to, you know,
to bring their walls down a little bit more. And
so for me in my case, I do look at
I have become more empathetic for them as well as
other people, because how just knowing how you are in
(37:46):
this world and you're not able to be your full self?
Speaker 7 (37:50):
Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I agree, And actually it's funny when when I'm out
in public, people watch people differently, like our certain thoughts
come up. I don't know, Like I I'm always curious
about people and what they're into. Or if I see
someone put together, I'm like, they may have a dirty
(38:13):
little secret, or I don't know, it's just I look.
I just look deeper when it when it when it
comes to people and even like and I'm not justifying
people being harmed or anything like that, but when I
see certain things happen that's like on the news, I'm
not shocked, to be honest, Like if you see some
(38:35):
sexual crime, I'm not promoting it or agreeing, but I
see the world differently now and I have a different
perspective as to that too, and just seeing all different
sides when it comes to sexuality too as well.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I have my life question because I know other people
are trying to get in What would you say is
the most challenging thing both, you know, as far as
the attachment and I don't mean physical attachment or mental
(39:17):
attach or emotional I'm just just in the presence of
being someone that oh, this person is interesting overall, and
then there's that person that male, that man gets some
sort of attachment. I know you established the word boundary
a few times that I know boundary does make it
(39:38):
very significant part of establishing not getting to attach. But
I can see for myself personally, I've had women being
attached to me too soon or or not at all,
and it was challenging because I didn't know how to
deal with it.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
So I'm asking you from your perspective.
Speaker 10 (40:01):
How challenging is that for you if you come across
the ficial west one where it is an attachment issue
or you know, how do you how do you handle that?
How do you sugget as a man I should handle that,
not necessarily you just in general.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I mean honestly, when I had mentioned how some people
just end having chat sessions with me if that helps them,
if they know they don't want to fall in love,
I mean, sometimes that's the best you can do as
not seeing someone again if you feel like you're developing feelings,
(40:37):
that's just my opinion, because you don't want it to
go any further or have yourself hurt by attaching yourself
even after boundaries were established. And I respect customers that
choose to stop sessions because they're falling in love and
they don't want to get to attach, and they know themselves.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, it's all about really setting the boundaries a point period.
That's that's just what it is. And even in your case, Jade,
so when you say that they you know a lot
of women that has become attached to you, but you're
not attached and vice versa. There's somewhere down the line
that those those boundaries have been blorwed. And sometimes it
(41:22):
can be on the part of the person who set
the boundaries boundaries because they don't want to hurt feelings.
You understand what I'm saying, But then the long run,
feelings do get hurt. So this is where you have
to be Okay, I have to set this boundaries because
I don't want neither one of us to get hurt
in this situation. And understand with our what is our
(41:43):
relationship right now? What is our relationship? And it is
there's room to grow in our relationship, whether it's to
be a lover, whether it's to be a friend, whether
it's to be whatever. That's determined on you in whoever
you are in that relationship with, because we all have relationships,
even you calling in we have a relationship, does that
(42:04):
make sense? But it's a level of different relationship that
we have, and you just have to be honest with
yourself on setting those boundaries. You know, a lot of
sometimes we get, you know, kind of hype like ah,
this dude like me, or this girl likes me, this
girl over here liking me, this girl like, come on,
we gotta stop playing all that because we are playing
with people in motion. So it's like, now we got
(42:26):
to step up and be real and like, Okay, this
is my boundaries, especially when it comes to and I
understand what she means about boundaries because I'm like that
when I was full blown in it. You know, you
have to set it because if you don't, then that
gives them permission to be able to do with anything
they want to do to you. Does that make sense?
Speaker 10 (42:46):
And it makes perfect sense because and again this is
a piggyback on what you just say. When you had
another adult performer on your show a couple of months ago.
I'm not gonna reveal their name unless you unless you're
comfortable with me doing so. But I thought you okay,
(43:08):
I thought of both of your careers over the years,
and one of the things that she had mentioned since
she's been out of it was the difficulty in coming
across men who did not respect her boundaries. And I
find it very interesting that the theme more so and
(43:33):
this loneless topic is the boundary aspect. I find it
very compellingly interesting because not a lot of women that
I've been counted, I'm not saying universally speaking, I'm just
saying my personal experience that I've encountered make it about
their boundaries outweighs my boundaries instead of our boundaries together
synchronize them. And that's that's one of the things that
(43:56):
I've taken away as that having that empathy and empathy
and sympathy aspect and dealing with someone who has been
going through some lonely period in my adult life, and
that it's becomes very emotionally challenging now physically, but just
most mentally and emotionally challenging to overcome because the fact
(44:20):
I have trust boundary issue, being able to trust the
vulnerability that will lead to having you as a sex
partner or to connect with you sexually in a way
that is both pleasurable.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
And enjoyable and desirable. So on that note, as always me,
thank you for letting come in.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
It's a pleasure man interacting with you as well, and
I will be around when I can each and every
Thursday possible.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I hope so, and I hope I hope you tuning
in to next month. And I made serious love and
mental health. That's going to be an amazing, amazing series there.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
So and we need to talk about that because talk
to you about that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, and you the reason why, baby, So I'll expect to.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Hear from you.
Speaker 10 (45:07):
Okay, I'm gonna shoot you an email update two about
what I mentioned to you about my personal life. We
will send your update in regards to that. That will
lead into the mental health topic.
Speaker 7 (45:17):
For next month.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
All right, sure things, Thank you so much. You have
a great one.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
All right, you too, all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right, all write my beautiful people.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Uh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Thank you for that. Dog Mike, thank you for that.
All right, you're back, all right, So we got another
collar on here, rock Hard.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Hey, Hey, hey, you got hello there, you got what's
going on with you?
Speaker 12 (45:57):
I'm doing all right, It's beautiful day, nice days.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
You got a question?
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Yeah, I got a question.
Speaker 12 (46:08):
I know you mentioned role playing right mission that you're
into role plane. Have you ever got like a role
playing request.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
That was like a no for you?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I typically do everything the only thing I don't do
is anything that involves blood, which I've gotten requests for
me to like stab myself with the fork.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Like anything else. To be honest, I'll do, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
I don't do anything that involves harming myself or even
the person harming themselves.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
But I'm I do a lot of taboo things that
other people wouldn't normally do.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Yeah, I heard that. How about you nail what like?
Speaker 12 (46:54):
Have you ever like when it came to like role playing,
like in your career and stuff, is there like the
level where you was like, Nope, can't do it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You know, after a while, After a while, the the
mommy thing kind of got to me. So then I
will start to say no to those type of things.
And actually, when I retired and I was getting a
lot of race dating custom videos requests, and I remember
I just said it was like a no. After a while,
(47:24):
it was like, Okay, no, I'm not gonna do this anymore.
Those are the type of ones that I would not,
you know, kind of do those.
Speaker 12 (47:32):
Yeah, all right, Yeah, I was curious about that one.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
You got a favorite rapper?
Speaker 6 (47:43):
I don't really, I mean, I don't really listen to
rap to be honest.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Because.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Not at all.
Speaker 12 (47:52):
If you got a favorite rapper, okay, I should say,
that's what I should say. You have a favorite music artist?
Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's about a question I have so many. I listened
to a lot of I guess doga Cat the.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Rock with Dog she Fired.
Speaker 12 (48:16):
It's always a pleasure chatting with your dog, Paul, Mike, Mike, Naomi,
the best.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Appreciate Oh Naomi. I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 12 (48:25):
You do like like therapy sessions, like one on one sessions?
Speaker 7 (48:29):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (48:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
How do I reach out for one?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Hit me my dear you know, because I hate to
say this because everybody will be hitting me in my DM.
Email me, Email me at info at x Naomi dot com.
Speaker 12 (48:48):
Appreciate you, Yeah, all right, I have a great one.
Appreciate your always.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
All right, thank you, Rod, I'll be good. All right,
My beautiful people, we are still here on AX that podcast.
I am here with the beautiful Pepper Cat. If you
guys have any questions for her, please give us a
call A seven six five two seven five one five
two seven. That's seven six five two seven five one
five two seven. Also do Mike Cat put up a
(49:16):
link as well. You come on and join the join us.
But we do have a caller on the phone. All right, Hey.
Speaker 11 (49:24):
Coller, Hey there my beloved Naomi Banks.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Hey Joseph.
Speaker 11 (49:31):
Happy to Thursday and happy early Easter. Same to you, ye, Mike,
and to your guests. Peppercat, if she's listening, I'm sorry
for the fact that she has a stuttering problem, and
(49:53):
I'm not gonna make fun of it. I'm not gonna
do some like a porky pig and press sure and
I'm not going to do that. Not gonna do it,
not gonna do it. My question is, even though your
(50:14):
days of porn are over, which scenes or porn sex
scenes do you enjoy doing with which men? Do you
enjoy doing it with black men which I will not
be upset or have a problem with that, or white men?
(50:38):
That's my question.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
It's for Minaomi.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay. So Peppercat does not perform, has not performed with
anyone as of yet. She just does Cammy on, you know,
just camy on her own. And for me, there's you know,
I enjoyed them both in my tops. I have both
of them. I both have both men, and I mean
(51:14):
men and women, both black and white. It didn't make
a difference on the day that I had a scene
with them, and it was a great day. It was
a great day. So I have my favorites and it's
come from both. So I never really looked at it,
you know, as you know, if it was a better,
if the white guy was better, the black guy was better,
it was just it was a great day at whoever
(51:35):
that scene where, whether it's Manuel, or whether it's Lex
or Marcus or LT or mister Pete or you understand
what I'm saying. So those are some of my tops
in there. And if you can see that, they're both
black and white men. So I don't have if one's
better than the other because they all got their own style.
Speaker 11 (51:56):
Yeah, I wasn't sure. I got no problem. If you're
doing the scene with blad man, I'm willing to watch
that or watch you with a white man. I just
got I just got done watching a classic scene a
minute ago on a porn track with you and James
(52:18):
Dean okay from Sweet Center.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh okay, yeah, mister James Dean, Okay, okay, all right,
all right, Joseph, thank you for calling Ian and you
you have an amazing.
Speaker 11 (52:33):
That Oh no, you may you feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Oh no, no, no, no no, I don't know if
that was your but no, that that's not what happened,
did not, Happy baby, I know you back now, but
that did not happen. But I want you to have
an amazing weekend, all right, And one last thing, yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 11 (52:51):
Jo I forget. I watched the last two episodes of
tonight's episode and your little beautiful as ys, specially with
the flower in your hair. Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank You're welcome. You all have a good night, specially Peppercat,
(53:11):
and have a great.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Happy alright YouTube. All right, all right, my beautiful people. Again,
I just thank you for just joining us in this
conversation altogether. Just period, Peppercat. Tell my listeners where they
can see you, edwre can follow you at if they
(53:33):
can get a one on one, you know, if they
wanted to with you or cam, let them let them know,
let them know.
Speaker 6 (53:40):
Sure, you can visit design your Dreamgirl dot com.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
That's my main hub for my social media adult sites, phone, segs,
porn videos. If you're interested, just visit design your Dreamgirl
dot com and you can find me literally anywhere.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
All right, that's beautiful all right, my beautiful people, I
see all of my BTG crew, and I want to
thank you all for just tuning in. I thank you
for all the calls that came through. Thank you all
for the continued support. I want to remind you guys
of next month in May. It's a really special month
for us because we are truly dedicating the whole entire
(54:23):
month to love and mental health. And we definitely have
some amazing guests that's coming on from therapist doctor Will.
Our resident therapists will be here every week of May,
and I can't wait for that. Yeah, it's gonna be
a good one. Again, Miss Peppercat, thank you and congratulations
(54:44):
on the a v N nomination, baby, and can the
podcasting world over there? And again, beautiful people, if you
need any love, sex, relationship advice, you know where to
hit us up. If you don't, it's at ax Naomi
at gmail dot com and I'll spell Naomi for you.
That's n y on m I at gmail dot com.
(55:04):
And if you have a story that you want to
share you want to be a part of our May series,
you can email us at x Naomi at gmail dot
com and in the subject line put May Series may
series on there, all right, and do you have any
last words out have.
Speaker 8 (55:20):
My mind are Pepper and we're gonna have to get
you back in talking about the mail loan this good dog.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
All right, five beautiful people. Well again until next week.
We have another amazing guest coming. And as I always said,
be good to one another, in yourselves and always keep
it sexy. Have an amazing, amazing day, a beautiful people.
What that is a rep for another episode of x
Naomi Breathing the Gap And I hope today's conversation has
(55:54):
what's so beautiful within you and gave you the two
to elevate your love next level. And I want you
to remember, transformation doesn't happen overnight. It happens one conversation,
one choice, in one moment of courage entitime, so you
will have everything within you to create the love and
the intipacy that you deserve. So don't forget to subscribe.
(56:18):
Put that note you down so you would never look
to anotherness. So share this with someone who needs to
heal you, and let's keep healing with something.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
As real tone.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, if Already
and everywhere podcast another one you can.
Speaker 5 (56:35):
Follow me on Instrument, take Out and all social.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Platforms at ads Naomi and for our daily inspiration in
the Nine Sea. So until next week, keep growing, keep loving,
and remember to always do. This is your girl, the Guide.
Now I'm the banks here I'll see you next time.
Wanna ask Naomi Bridgin forga
Speaker 3 (57:00):
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