Look In Through The Glass

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to an exciting episode of Pete for Anxiety.
I have some very special guests today, and please welcome
in the host of Looking in the Glass.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
So lay and just hell, ladies, how are we doing today?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Cec just call me Cec.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I keep mess up slaz names, so she's giving me
code names over now. We've been dying about this the
whole time until we hit record.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
But ladies, why don't you tell everybody a little bit
more about yourselves and your show?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
So look In through the Glass is a platform that
we've been talking about for about a year now, and
we started out on YouTube and then we chued out
to TikTok and so we've been trying to just build
up our platform, try to get ourselves out there, and
we very much have hit you read this, Phil let

(01:02):
me much.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Seems like I'm still working on the descript of the show.
Hold on.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
We are very Larry hardened, but we also talk about
the deep top topics.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
We talk about the raw things. We're not afraid to
open ourselves up and be vulnerable. As a matter.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
We've been doing our stories and we're letting people know that, Hey,
here's my story. I'm going to be this vulnerable with you.
Hopefully you're willing to be that vulnerable with us. And
you know, we want raw stories people of what people
have overcome in life, because you know your story may
be a roadmap for somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I think it's a perfect statement to you is your
story matters a lot of people. A lot of people
hear it and they'll be like, oh man, if you
know Ceci and Jaselle can talk about it, why can't
I talk about it? And I think it makes it
more authentic for you when you're telling your own story,
so people know, like if you've been there, because you know,
that's always the first thing people ask.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's like what do you know about this?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And then you can start unloading and then they're like, whoa,
never mind exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
And we also I'm addict, you know, on and off
for thirty years. I've been clean for five hundred and
thirty five days today.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hey, that's what I'm saying. Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm really huge.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I want to give back to the recovery because I
was given a gift by having recovery.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It was a gift given to me and I.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Want to give it to as many others and help
as many people as I possibly can on that that
that's one of my biggest things.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I love that though, Like you know, congratulations too, by
the way, because that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I'm so glad you're there, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And if you could speak from experience when you're talking
to the people, then you know, I mean, that's what
it's all about. It's connecting people. So when people like
start talking to they're like, well, what do you know?
And then when you start really sharing a lot of
those deep things, they're like, hey, hold on, all right now,
this makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
All right, you know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And I think when it comes to that area, that's
a lot of times when people shy from is that
they're like, well, what is this person though? And the
fact that you know you're sharing that story there, it
just says a lot to a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
One thing when we we've had a couple of interviews
and one thing that really related.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well is people relate to pain. We very much do.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's one thing that I've noticed I can relate to
somebody on pain compared to happiness, because my happiness is
going to be different from somebody else's.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, true, very true point, you know, and everyone
has their own definition what happy really is. So so
so far, you know, how has it been going?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
The podcasts and they you guys have done you guys,
you've done a couple of interviews so far. I've looked
at and seen some of you guys and stuff. So
how have you been enjoying it so far?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The interview is, I think it's fun. It's really intriguing
to connect and see how two different stories can connect.
Knowing one side and then seeing or hearing another side,
it's fascinating to me.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I find it so much fun. It's just so much fun.
In all honesty, it is, you know, yeah, we're talking
about hard stuff, but in the meantime, I'm healing. You know,
the more I talk, I'm healing. The more that they talk,
they're healing. So watching the raw healing and the trans
informations happening in real time moment and then getting those

(04:04):
connections really is what hits me. Those connections that we
that you know, we're trying to create and that we
are creating, you know, just that connection is what it
just I get blown away at what people are able
to overcome you know.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh yeah, you guys are just at the beginning of
this thing too. Trust me. There's a lot of conversations
all to have and you know, from.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
My own, my own life experiences of what people are
capable of overcoming and I haven't had nowhere near is
what other people have had. And you know, and each
person is just a Each story to me personally, is
a story, is a hero story. They're a hero in
each one of their own lives. They they've showed up

(04:47):
for themselves and they became their own hero. And that
right there.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Is just it just I don't know. I'm the graadge
makes my heart grow three times.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Each of all the pop globe of references we're making
right now. No, that's true though. I mean, like you
hear these stories, man, and it's hard, Like some of
them are hard. I could tell you right now, after
two hundred plus interviews, there are only four ties I've
ever teared up on camera. There's the one where me
and this girl named Tiff Carson, We're having a conversation
with a brother. Oh my god, dude, I was like
trying to hold it together and I couldn't. And you know,

(05:18):
it was it's so hard, Like some days it's hard
to listen to some of these stories, like you hear.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Some wild ass shit too.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think the craziest moment we've had to date, and
I know some people know about it and the summer
is seeing it live is we had a guy talking
about suicide ideation and he was like, yeah, you know, can.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I tell you something?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like thirty forty minutes in this interview, he's just like says, hey, Pete,
can I tell you something? I was like, yeah, he goes,
you know, this morning, I'm sitting on the into the
bed and I'm just like, oh God, here we go.
What is about to happen? Like I'm freaking out in
my head on the camera, I'm trying to keep it
together because this guy's talking and he's just saying like
he's like, well, I had the gun in my hand
and I was gonna shoot myself this morning right before
this interview.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm like, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But it was interesting because the response you got people
are so Panicky's are like oh god, suicide God, and
they all start freaking out, you know, and things like
that too. And this guy was talking about it, and
it was just like it was causing people to freak out,
like Idzil's crushing Tokyo.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Basically they're like, oh god, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
But it was it was so interesting because it was
the first time we had to deal with that situation
on the show where somebody was like talking directly about, Hey,
I had thoughts this morning by killing myself. You know,
you know, I'm still happy to be here, and I'm
just like, okay, yeah, Like I didn't know what to say,
Like I wasn't prepared for that.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
How do you respond to that?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I was just like, oh, you can see me kind
of panicking a little bit. I'm just like, oh shit,
here he goes and he just starts crying. I'm like, dude,
it's okay, man. Like I didn't know what to say.
I was like lost for words. So, like I said,
you know, you guys are just in the beginning of
this thing.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
The conversations you're about to get into are gonna get
really interesting too. But you know, at the same time,
you're gonna you're gonna enjoy it because you're gonna share
your story with them, and you guys are gonna compare
things and find out that you have a lot in comment,
a lot more people than you realize, you know. And
then at the end of the day you make your
new friends along the way too. It's really great. And
then you'll just start building it from there and then
pretty soon you'd be like me, I really mention your
name and all know exactly who we're talking about. Oh yeah,

(07:03):
you know, because everybody says my name, and a lot
of people that you know, I know, you know, you
guys know Jay from Rock and Recovery, like him and
I were talking and Jay, I gave him a bunch
of people in the beginning, so he tell us his
story in his show. Okay, Jay's like, oh, he's selling
all these people telling me to do this. And now
like Jay wasn't like that, stop playing the people, you know,
and he was just like I was sending him a
slew of people, and every time he mentioned my name,
he's like, yeah, they said yeah right after I mentioned

(07:25):
your name. So you guys are going to get to
that level eventually.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's off. I mean, it's it's it's hard. So what that's.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Amazing And now I can't wait to be there, you know,
I think it's amazing. But at the same time, I
got to trust the process, you know, because I'm doing
my own heeling. We're both doing you know, And that's
the greatest part of this is that we can we
can do this.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
On our level and our abilities.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
At the same time face as well too. Yeah, good time.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, and we can do this at our own pace.
And I think that's one of the things that draws
me to it. Also is just it's the I have
a traumatic brain injury. I'm unable to.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Work, so I haven't been.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Able to So let's talk about that then for a second.
You're traumatic brain gy what happened exactly?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
This has got to be good. The way you started laughing.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
This either has to be those interesting story like should
I crack a beer for this one?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is what you're trying to say, Yeah, happily.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, you might want to with this one if you're
if you're California, you know, Hey, So the beginning of
the story is amazing. We were at Grand Canyon for
a first family event with my at the time boyfriend,
you know, he's my husband now at the time boyfriend's family.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
His kids, my kids.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
We got our big vehicle because we have six kids
between the two of us. Yeah, We're seven kids between
the two of us, six that lived with us, and
so it was our first family adventure. You know, Grand Canyon.
I grew up in Las Vegas, right next door to
Grand Canyon, but I've never been there.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I wanted to go there my entire life.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
We were I don't know how long we were there.
I don't remember a whole bunch because it was a
really bad head injury.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
It was actually towards the beginning. Yeah, it was never
there for like maybe twenty minutes. We walked from the parking.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
One, well twenty minutes, and then something happened. What happened?
You fell into the Grand Canyon. You forget you're only
supposed to look at.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
It, and boy, yeah, I think I might have been
a little bit better off if I did so.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I bet down.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I noticed that it was two at the time. My
two year old's step son. His shoe was untied, so
I bent down and tied a shoe, and I guess
there was My husband said there was a backfire from
a bus and it had startled me and I jumped up,
and when I jumped up, I hit my head on
a metal hand railing a hollow metal hand railing and

(09:42):
that went down about three hundred feet and it hit
so hard it reverbed.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, super high thing, Yeah all the way down, that.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Entire thing, and everybody stopped and looked at me. And
I had just gotten out of a very severely abusive
relationship that I had very high PTSD. I was having flashbacks,
some bad dreams and I didn't know. I didn't I
didn't know anything about PTSD, and immediately it triggered a

(10:18):
PTSD moment, and I had started to flip out, was
thinking that everybody was staring at me because my now
husband was was starting an argument with me in public.
And yeah, it turned into a pretty crazy day.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But I had refused to go.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
To the medics because I didn't have any insurance, I
didn't have a job.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I was just in a really bad place, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
And I was still trying to be more independent because
the guy, you know, I didn't know I was going
to marry him for sure, for sure, you know. And
I refused to go to the hostel bill for three
days and finally I was having absent seizures. Immediately, I
was having PTSD seizures call them. There are episodes or

(11:12):
flashbacks and we call them are my angry seizures because
I would I have no recollection of any of those moments.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, that happens with PTSC. I know that for sure.
My wife had that situation. She went berserk and doesn't
even remember what happened. In the conversation, she's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't remember. Like dude, I had to fight you off.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
You were so mad, and you know, it was like
something you never you know, and you don't know until
you experienced it, Like people could tell you all day,
like Edward, it's never been in the situation. Minus anybody
that's trained in these situations that gives you advice, they
have no idea what they're dealing with because that person
is no longer there. And you can you you can
contest that too, because you said you don't remember that when.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
It happened, I was not there.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
I would leave the building and some evil, mean creature
would come out of me.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
It was like I mean, if you were religious or
if you think in that way, you would you would
think that I was like possess almost type thing. I mean,
it was just a completely different person. The amount of
strength that I had was just crazy, you know, you know,
because you're the adrenaline is pumped up so hard in

(12:13):
that mind, because you're literally in that mind you're fighting
for survival, but you have no recollection of it.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have no recollection of the ginion.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
No.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I believe it too.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Like I said, she she said the same thing too,
because we got we got to do it, and she
we were trying to fight her out to calmer down
because she was just going berserk and that person wasn't
there anymore. And I could tell you right now, I
know exactly what that's like. Now, Gizelle, were you there?
Do you remembering this moment when it happened?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
He's been part of that.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I've yeah, a lot of them happened towards for her. Yeah,
especially at the beginning. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I would say something and it would trigger her.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Any immediately here we go. Yeah, uh actually have one.
She's she's I've told her about it, and she remembers it.
This was before we moved out to Texas, and she
I don't know what I said. I don't remember all
of it. All I remember is her immediately dragging me
down the hall and I'm like a two hundred and

(13:09):
fifty pounds eighteen year old being dragged down the hall
and by my hoodie and I am fighting her and
her at the time boyfriend now husband was trying to
pull her off of.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Me and he couldn't.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, and so and I mean she fully ripped my
sweater in half, completely off of me and everything.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It was something.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean, this is my mom's seventeen eighteen years with her,
I've never seen her act out or be in that way.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
So it was very non human to me.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
It was it was like, this is not my mom,
this is not who I've never seen this person. And
so and very many other episodes later on happened.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
It happened. It's happened over ten years, eleven years. You know.
Now we're at the point where she's not having them.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
It took it took at least eight years of me
having those on a very frequent basis.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
My head injury was so bad.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
They said it was so severe that if I had
hit it any harder, I would have not lived.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's that's just the sound I steal God', which I
knocked myself.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Believe.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
And when you do, when they when they when they
calculate concussions, concussions are calculated based on the vibration how
many parts of the brain that got vibrated because your concussion,
you're literally your brain forgets how to function.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
And it went through I hit.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
The very top of my head and on hollow, so
we went through every part of my brain. My emotional
regulator completely just off. I didn't even know how to
put manonnai'se on a hamburger after No, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't understand. I've had some things.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I needed, but I could figure out how to do it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It was function.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. So how long it took you
eight years from like that or it's just.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
It's just eight years of those angry angry episodes, those
blackout angry episodes. I had eight years of those. They
only stopped probably about two.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Maybe three years ago, about two three years. Yeah, so sad,
A couple here and there, but nothing.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Nothing like you. But it took it took a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
And you can ask each and every single one of
our family members, each of the kids, my husband, each
of us have experienced in one or a few of
those episodes.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Are being present in those episodes?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, no, I agree, And they wouldn't only end up
in just anger. It would end up in me trying
to take my life as well.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh okay, all right to this a little interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
So that's that's really not too shocking because you know,
you're going in through a PTSD moment, so people don't
realize what you're seeing and what you're experiencing, you know,
and things like that. But I mean, luckily still here.
Let's be honest with that much.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
But yeah, no, I you know, I don't know how
many times I've had to go up to her and
beg her not to do.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Something or try to pry the knife out of her hands.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, I can believe it. I can believe it.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So you know, well, it's it's that's that's a lot Jesus,
I didn't expect that to come on this story.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Holy crap. I gotta say I'm a little lost words
learning from it all on. Let me regroup my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'm just like, I'm like, okay, that's the number two
moment now on the show of the craziest story he's
ever been told here. But you know, like that's just
like I get it though, I mean I understand it.
It's just it's just wild, man, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's wild it's really.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Really we don't think about it that way.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
You know, brain and the functioning and how the seizures
and this and that go on. As a matter of fact,
we were doing a recording here in a little while
with somebody else that I know that has epilepsy, and
we're gonna we're gonna talk about how the seizures affect him,
how they affected me because I have non epileptic seizures. Yeah, oh,
he has epileptic seizures. So we're going to talk about

(16:53):
so we can cross pets and go, okay, these are
you know, the similarity the similarities because a lot of
people don't know about seizures. A lot of people don't
there's very little awareness.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I don't even say even your er doctors. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, I agree, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm definitely to check it out. So Jille, let's talk
a little bit about you now. Want you tell me
a little more about yourself. Is there anything any mental
health orders, anything disorder wise you deal with that?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
We should know so very much.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I also deal with PTSD.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I I have childhood trauma of PTSD from my mother's
My husband, he was very yeah, and we very much.
That's why we have the podcast. It is so we
talk about what happened between us. Yeah, and the raw
So I I try to do have that PTSD. I

(17:45):
also have a lot of trauma from the scenarios of
being sexually assaulted three separate times. I actually just released
I have a one that just released today, a second
part of my story of what of the Deepest Darkest Parts.
And I do have a panic attacks where I black out.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I'll stop breathing for a.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Few minutes, and my husband will have to sit there
and try to teach, like, teach me how to rebreathe.
I've suffered a few of those that he's the only one.
I think she might have seen it one other time. Yeah,
I very much in when I'm in a scenario of fight.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Or flight, my whole body just starts shutting down.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, you have any kids.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I'm actually stually pregnant.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yes, congratulations, that's awesome. The first one.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Hey kid, you know having a boy or girl?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm having a little girl.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
There you go, and it's the first one. Yes, Oh,
you're gonna love it. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's the greatest thing ever mom can tell you, and
contested the greatest thing. Ever, when you see the kid born,
it'll be worth it.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I went through my wife had she had three, so
we had my first one actually was with another woman,
and then I had three more of the all girls,
and I had twins, so it was just I've been there.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Trust me, it's a great moment. You'll love it.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean, it's frustrating at first, oh, but you know,
it's just you got to think the same thing with
your mom. Your mom is still nude to raising kids
when she's raising you, so it'll be like the same
thing for you raising this one. But I'm sure you
know you'll have mom there to help you out too,
and grandma'll be excited, I'm sure, And it's great that
you all are going on this journey together.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
We have my mom too.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
My mom's going to be a great grandma because my
mom had me at fifteen, so we have very young
generations here.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Oh yeah, my mom's gonna be all up in it.
And she's already got grandma experience.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So there you go, right there you go. See.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
So she says, oh, you got all them people ready
to go. Man, just built in babysitters for you.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Grandma.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You want to watch the little grandma that say yes
without even thinking twice. Oh, y'all watch them for you.
I got it, Dori, Oh.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Yeah, I have a sister too, and she's She's like,
I'm the first call, right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Gonna be awesome. Trust me, you'll love it.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's gonna it's be great, you know, and things like that,
two do you plan and having more after this one?

Speaker 4 (19:54):
We're gonna see I've already been having kind of complications
with this one. Okay, so we're we're we gonna kind
of see how how this one goes afterwards and what
we've talked about having two or three.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
There you go. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So with the podcast, what what was that moment y'all
decided besides the fact I told you all should start
a podcast, you know, So we.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Actually been wanting to do it before and when we
first decided the name on Everything, that's exactly what we were, like,
we need.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
We talked about anything and everything. We can talk on
the phone all day long, and we're like, well, we
have some of the most interesting conversations. Why don't we
start a podcast. We didn't know where to start, We
didn't know how to go about it. So we found like,
well why don't we YouTube. We're like, let's just start
with YouTube. She very much would come over and we
would just record. We would just sit here and record,

(20:43):
and then we would just upload onto YouTube. We don't
like the editing parts because we like people seeing the
real life in things, how hectic things can be.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
We all very much experience that. And I'm also the
type of if I'm gonna be trusted with, if I
the way I look that is, if I'm asking people
to trust me with their stories and them being in
that vulnerable state, then I absolutely need to let them
see who I am.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, see, my my approach is different. I didn't
really say much myself. I kind of just told people.
So I was the international man of mystery for a
long time until I started doing more podcast guest spots.
I was on oder people's shows, and it got easier
to talk about it as I go. So, like if
you watched the beginning episode one of this show to
where I'm Now, you'll you can see the major evolution

(21:32):
of where I go through because each conversation you get
into you gain some new knowledge from somebody that you met,
and a lot of times it was At first it
was a lot of different random people I had and
then I had a little more structure later on, you know,
but I invited different people to come on, you know,
and we found out interesting stories as we go about
certain people, and you know, like I said, though, you'll
you'll run into these So the kind of conversation you

(21:53):
guys are going to cover anything like I do too,
And it's just like you don't even have an idea
of what you're gonna get into. But I'm excited for y'all,
I really am. I think, get where you're gonna go
and where you're gonna end up. You're gonna you're gonna
do something. And if you reach one person, you've done
enough right there alone. Your story obviously is hitting home
with people. From what you guys are telling me, you're
getting a lot of traction, which is really good though,
because you know, a lot of people get struggle cake
at past ten episodes and then they give up.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So I mean, once you hit to episode ten, it's it.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
You guys are already in the think of this thing already.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, we're almost there.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
I just released eight today, Yeah, release eight today, So
more to go again, There you go, We're releasing three
days a week.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
We're releasing Mondays to Wednesdays and Fridays.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, that's the way I'm doing it too for my
season two. Now, I'm already out to October now with
recordings of people, and then I'll be in November by
the end of this week. Of just three days a
week dropping, but I also do like four or five
interviews a day if you ask anybody when I'm up
to most of the times, that's what I'm doing. So,
you know, I put out it so much. But then
you know, guest selection got a little more limited now

(22:51):
because I'm trying to keep it to a certain you know,
area where I'm trying to be at, you know, and
you know, for you guys, how do you guys select
your guests? You just reach out to random people you know,
or just kind of asking.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Kind of what kind of what we've been doing is
just reaching out to people. You know, We've got a
good community on TikTok, you know, I've been working that
for a little while.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's how I know. We know Jay.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
As a matter of fact, Jay and I are Our
dates are very close together.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
He's one of the very first people I met in the.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Recovery j Yeah, he's a great person.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I do. I love him. He's like a brother. I'm
telling you.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
But we've just been asking because you know, other people
in the recovery community, other people that I've met through
through just meeting people on TikTok. You know how that
goes the socialization all that, and and also people that
we personally know.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
My ex stepmom is going to be doing a.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Recording with us about about a rape that she experienced.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
You know, We're just that's basically what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, and you know, and we are putting out there
letting other people know if they want to share their
story very much.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well you girl plug it.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, because email, we want anybody anybody who has something
they want to share about.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know, we're trying to get a little bit more
structure into what season's gonna be White.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I told you know, I'm trying to put that into
place because I was like, you know, we're gonna have
to eventually hit a season two.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'm just random.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
As well, and I'm just like, hey, y'all get it.
You know, We're trying to just letting people know you
can reach us at our email and then you know,
if you don't, if you want to be on here,
you want to stay anonymous, you can just let it
write it out and we will read it.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
If it's something where you want to.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Talk about it, but you don't want your name or
your face out there, there's the audio options. You know,
there's a lot of options in there to allow people
to get their story out there so they can feel
that they have a voice too.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I love it. So what's what's the email plug it
for him? Tell them where de fines you?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
This is gonna be fun.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
One two looking through three four the glass at gmail
duck oh jesus, But it's through t.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Is one two l O O k I N t
h r U three four the glass.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
At gmail dot com. The spelling is different. I tell look,
when I was coming up the name.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Of this podcast is not the easiest to be able
to come up with emails and you're.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Looking at up on YouTube like it's just that stone
Sour song that keeps popping up, which is kind of
where how we got it.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I like it, like it. I was gonna ask you
your name is that? How is it based on the
song from us?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yes, the wording is different. But yes, because we would
just stand there and look out a window and the
song would immediately all pop up in our heads and
then we was saying it. I was sitting there and
we were trying to think of a name for the
longest time.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
We spent what two months, three months trying to think
of a name before we even started, Yeah, and we
just couldn't get past that, and that song just kept
coming up each and.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
One of my kids and I'm very synchronousity type of person.
We made fun of you. Yeah, they make fun of me.
And I was like, all right, that's the name of
the song.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Apparently that's what God wants it to be, so that's
what we're gonna name it, right, So that's how we
ended up with it.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
And I was just sitting there one day and it
just hit me.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I was like Pete for his anxiety, about on my
anxiety every single day, you know, and things like that too,
and it just took off and the show originally the
logo has changed shoe Like right around my anniversary, my
brother sent me a message and he was.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Like, hey, we gotta update your logo.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's interesting how these conversations go between me and him
because him and I don't really have a talking relationship
at times, so I'll hear from here and there. But
he's always like a big he's a big entrepreneurs so
he's a he's busy doing something else. But he set
me the logo that's in the background now, and he
was like, yeah, we got to parade your logo. We
got to refresh your logo. I'm like, okay, dude, awesome,
you know so, I mean, I know.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
What it's like. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
When I started this thing, I couldn't even tell you.
I was trying to book everybody solo by myself, and
I was getting so many emails in because when I
posted the show idea, I really had one hundred and
fifty sponsors, and I was like, fuck, you know, wow,
like I got something at this point, like there's enough traction.
And the show was already out to the end of
the year already, so like I started in September, so

(27:10):
we were already at July by the first session of
people I got and I ended at three o'clock setting,
and that went off to about the end of the
year as well. And in November when I instituted the calendar,
I'm out to what was say, April twenty twenty five
at that point, you know, and it just kept going
and going and going, and I'm just like, I guess
I got something here because people are lining up to
be on this show man like this is crazy, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And you know it was.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Faith though that we all met though, because like when
someone canceled, I reached out to Hell and let her know.
It's like, hey, listen, this is what's going on.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
What do you think? And she's like, okay, cool, yes,
I love it though.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
What you're doing though, you're having their honest conversations because
I think at this point we need to have these
real conversations.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I think that people need to stop coding words.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And that's what I don't like about TikTok a little bit,
is like I get what they're doing, but if.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Zach coding not even here we are trying to talk
about a story and how are we going to tell
our truth?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Then this is what we are needing to do.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
This is something that's needed desperately, is these conversations and
us just speaking our truth, just talking about it.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
It doesn't matter. Yeah, And we can't.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Even use the word drug or rape or sexually assaulted
or anything like that. Like we have all been pretty
much through so much trauma and we can't even talk
about it.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So yeah, that's why we've already.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Can't have an adult conversation.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I feel like, I'm like, then they're making it for
eighteen and older only then sybils that it's all the problem.
Anybody older than eighteen can watch this content, if not
block it out to any of these younger kids are
getting out.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
But that's what we've been doing on our lives on
TikTok is.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I've been making it for eighteen older and it's made
things a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, but they still flag you for a lot. Yeah,
they'll still flag you for a lot. And that was
another reason why I was.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Like, I am tired of being so limited on what
I can say.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I'm so tired. No, it's it's hard.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
And you know how, like she said, how are you
supposed to get your story out there if you're limited
on what you can say? And so that's why I
was like push it. Like we both started like, okay,
let's do this. And that's when I reached out to
you and you very much like gave us the whole
just small setup and we're like, let's do.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
It, and we've been throwing it together. We literally we
literally ai our logo. We're like, okay, looking through the glass, Okay,
lib what we come up with?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
All right? Cool?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
And I was like, well, the logo actually works because
it kind of reminds me of a poem.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
And there's this poem that I read.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
One said it hits with me and I talk about
it a lot, and it talks about a guy's down
in a hole and everybody's just walking and walking by.
He can't get out, and some people walk by give
him some advice.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Another person walks by gives them some water.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Another person walks by and puts down a rope, but
nobody he's still stuck in that hole. They walk by,
they give them a little bit of comfort, and then
they're on their way and he's still stuck in that hole.
Well then all of a sudden, the guy look blinks,
opens up his eyes and there's somebody standing in front
of him. He goes, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
He goes, well, I've been hitting this hole before and
I know how to get out, so I'm going to
help you out.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
And like, you know, that's that to me hits home
really really close. Because if there weren't people that my husband,
her husband, you know, there weren't those people that were
there for me when I was in that deepest, darkest hole,
I don't know how I would have gotten out.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
And I know how to get out, you know. And
I'm more than willing to help others, you know what
I mean. No, no, get out of that hole. You're
so thankful, you just want to help.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, No, I'm all about helping people too, So I agree.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Like I said, when you guys reached out and asked
me about what to do, I was like, yeah, I
went out and I pushed for Jade to do with
podcasts for a while. Now I was like, dude, you
need to get off TikTok. Only for the fact that
they limit to what you can say. I think that
you'd be better in a podcast setting because you can say.
You could talk about these different topics, you know, in
Jay's past and everything we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
It is that an amazing story himself.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
This story was insane when he was telling me about it,
and he's like, yeah, you know, and he told me
about his wife and I was just like, holy shit,
you know, and I've been pushing for a while for
him to do one. It's like, you know, and he
tells that story too, by the way. He did in
this interview with a friend of ours, Jasmine, they both
sent up birthday wishes and before that, Jay is talking
about how I kept nagging him about him. He was like, bro,
I just know you have something special here, Dude. You

(31:23):
get all these people together to come talk about it.
You're in a limited space where you could say limited things,
but you're still able to hold court for these people.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
To come in, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
And he challenges all of them too to say something positive,
you know, and things like that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
And that's what I loved about Jay.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Jay was just like he's just got that that personality
man that just draws people in so and you know,
and I've been linking them up with a bunch of
different people too, and he's had some really interesting conversations
with some of them too, And I would love listening.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
To him all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, Massimo is the one I'm referring to, by the way,
In case you got have you heard that episode of Masimo?
You'll have to definitely get him on to talk to him.
Fantastic guy, great idea met that he's got a method
call the Sober Method that he uses. Him and Jay
go deep into it and they're talking about it, you know,
and Masimo was just a great time. And then Jay
told me that Masimo is going to come back again,
and I was like, oh, yeah, you know that's awesome too,

(32:09):
So like I'll do I'll do the same thing I
do for Jay though, Like I said, I'll let you
know about different people and see if they fit. And
then you know, because I interview a lot of people,
so I'll usually pass off the profiles to Jake because
we're both on pod Match. So that's that side I
was telling you guys about. It's like you can set
your own schedule. You guys can set your own schedule
six dollars a month, fantastic, and you get a kickback
for doing your interviews and then they'll leave you reviews

(32:30):
and everything. So like you'll basically set your page talk
about what your show is, and then people can pitch
you or you can pitch people, so you'll have people
coming either to you or you'll be reaching out to
them and stuff like that too, and you know all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Wow, that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think it'll open your door to a really interesting
set of conversations because a lot of those people, some
of them will do outside of pod match and some won't.
Like I can, I can hook you up a bunch
of different people depending on what topics you want to
talk about, because I've covered a lot of things, you know,
and things like that too. I did reach out to
a freend ande Exephanie Acox. She's making a movie.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
About mental health. It's called Bloom.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Basically what it is it changes your perspective on what
way we look at monthal health now, so you know
it's it's some really good It's a real strong project.
I've been behind since day when I met her, and
I think I met her was she she was sometime
in November, if I remember when I met her, but
we were talking about that it was still in the
pre production phase and things like that too. So I'm
id have to see if I can get her link
up with the ladies and see what you think and

(33:24):
see how it goes, because she is a really interesting
story about suicide. She was in Hawaii and she's like
she was doing that proverbial looking over the ledge. A
lot of us say you know, like we're at that edge,
we're looking over and we're ready to jump. She was
literally there doing the same exact thing, and she's like, Yeah,
I was literally over this ledge looking and I was
seconds from jumping, and I was like shit, because mentally,
I've been there.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I know what it's like.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I'm a survivor suicide myself, because I thought about it
once or twice, you know, and it was that voice
in the back of my head and things like that too.
With to being suicide Awareness Month, do you all have
any tips for anybody for you know, if they're suicidal,
what to look for, you know, especially Cee Cee, you.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Know you been there, so Zella, I don't know if
you've been there yet or not.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I have, she has.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
I struggled with suicidal thoughts from a very young age.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I didn't act out on any of them.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
I did have them quite often, I mean a lot,
but I never acted out.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
On him, not until my head injury.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
My head injuries, when when after That's when I acted
out on them. And for me, I even I even
after I got clean, I had you know, Uh, I
think a lot of mine comes from my body not
knowing that it's going into fight or flight mode my body.
I'll push my body into that and then it'll come up.
Jay actually helped talk me off of a ledge once.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I believe it, guys. I'm telling you,
I love that dude so much.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Ja.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
If he's there for you when you need him, and
that's for sure he shows up for you, that's I
gotta say that far as advice, just reach out.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I know it's hard, and I know it's ugly.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I know, I know that even in the darkest places,
you are here for a purpose.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Everybody's here for a purpose. We're here purposefully, for purpose
and on purpose. Just keep that in mind.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
That that's the only thing I think that ever kept
me going was that thought. There was that knowledge right
there is that we are here purposefully with the purpose
and on purpose. And you may not feel like you're
doing that yet, but trust me, you do it without
any thought. You're just doing it by being here, you know.
And I will just say that that Keep that with you.

(35:32):
I know, even if you don't know me, you know
you mean something to me.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Everyone, tell you have any words for anybody that's that's
ever thought about it, you know, just from your own experience.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I've had quite a few different experiences, and I to
this day still don't know what completely got me through it.
I still don't understand how I got through it. That's
something I'm still trying to process.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
The one thing that I had when I was younger,
in my teenage years, it was my mom finding me
that would traumatize her, how that would make her feel,
or my little sister.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
That that was one thing that always crossed my mind.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
And then you know, in my older years, how my
husband coming home from work, and you know, I think
about the people around me. I am one of I
very am conscious of those and how they're going to feel,
how they're going.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
To react, and what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
And I know that's very hard for a lot of
people that relate to because I know there are people
who don't feel like they're loved, or they're don't cared about,
or that they're not present. And but I very much
have to say there's somebody else that does care.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Like she said, we do care.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, we don't have to know you, we don't have
to know anything about you.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
We care exact your life matters more than anything. You know,
you do mean something to this world. You I have
to agree with everything she says. Is you have a
reason to be here, you have potential on being here.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I think that everybody needs to understand that you may
feel longe, but you're not alone. You can reach out
to c sch Zell or me. You're all answering. Our
message is always twenty.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Four to seven.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I'm always around. There's nine eight eight if you need it,
or is there what is it? One one one in
Canada's Jayways says all the time too.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Ye yeah, Jay says one one one one one.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I think it's one one one or one one eight.
I'll have to double check on it.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
In Canada or in America.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Like you said, you know, there's all those different things,
and it's just, you know, it's hard when it comes
to suicide because a lot of times if people call
and talk to you, you know, they don't know how
to react.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
So did you guys experience that yourselves. Have you reached
out to somebody and try to talk to about your
thoughts at all? Or was that a big fear of yourself?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
I actually I've had friends we very much. I've had
them reach out to me, and it's very hard to
know how to react, especially when you're younger or you've
never experienced somebody coming to you. But I talking them
down is probably one of the hardest things because you
don't know no words feel right to say. Yeah, And

(38:07):
my experience is never you don't.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Know what to say, you don't know how to say,
you don't know what words, and so you just have them.
People say, don't vent, but I have them talk to me.
What's going on? What you know, listening to them and
hearing them speak out what's going through their mind, what's
going on, and then trying to talk them down from
that point to have them understand, you know, or to

(38:30):
see that there's so much more to life than what
they're facing in that moment.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah. No, I couldn't say any better. I love it.
I love it, you know. And that's the thing too.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I think it's hardest part because I've had to talk
to me off the ledge to he Lily called me
and told me I'm standing on the roof right now
in my house.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'm ready to jump.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I said, whoa hold on, talk to me, big dog.
What's wrong, you know, and getting them to talk. I
think it's the first thing, just like you said, just
I'll listen. You have to listen, Like that's the main thing,
Like stop talking and just let them go.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Is it going to be a rough conversation. Yeah, you
don't want to hear somebody say the're about ready to
kill themselves, right, You.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Don't know what they're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
You don't know what they're gonna do next, you know,
you get into that point where you made, you know,
of like you don't know what to say to people,
you know, and just listening and getting them to talk.
I think it's your best bet right there, because at
least you got them talking to you about it, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And then the other things too. I've learned was that,
you know, if.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
You think somebody's going to try and kill themselves, ask
them say, hey, listen, do you think about killing hardy
hurting yourself?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
The you about killing yourself? Do you a suicide at all?
You're not wrong for asking it.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
In fact, you may objilt their brain to let them
think about it and really consider reconsidered, be like, hey, listen,
maybe this isn't what I want to do. You know,
and you know, just look for different signs, like sometimes
it's just like the run things you don't and they'll
make jokes about it.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Some people make jokes and say, oh, well, oh man,
that's why I go home and kill myself. You know,
people need to start taking those things serious because we
don't know if they're serious or not. You know, and
I think that you know, when people make those jokes,
we all think haha, funny, but none of us really
think about, Okay, well they really serious about.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
This now, or you know they serious yeah, or one
day they're going to say it and they're going.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
To mean it.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, you know, especially then, you know, because what do
we wear eighty percent life your alone, that's all suicide rates.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
We're just dead for men. It's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, there's skyrocketing for men.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Not to say the women don't matter in this conversation,
but you know, my point is is that we just
seen in general, the start talking more about these things. Yes,
you know, and I think that we are having a
younger age too. It's just start coming together and having
these rough conversations about you know, where your mental health
is at. If you know, if you're having problems. It's
it's okay to have problems. There's fun to place to
go helphub dot co a good friend of mine, Lisa Sugarman,

(40:29):
and made a whole site to go through. It tells
you everything you know and anything any kind of preferences
or things you can't have based on your religion.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
All right there.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
She took the time to do it all for you,
you know, and things like that too. So but you know, well,
we're getting to the fun part of the show. Let's
let me ask you, ladies, two questions.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
So, I don't know if you've ever seen these episodes.
There are two questions I ask every one of my guests. Okay,
So one of them is credit to a good friend
of mine. She has a podcast called The Shit that
Goes On in Her Heads. Okay, so when we interviewed,
she asked me this question.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Sure is friends on Facebook, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
So Gretchen asked me the same question. I'm about to
ask you to ladies, if your mental health had a song,
what would.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That song be?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Phenomena?

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Sorry, but that's literally the first thing that popped.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
In my head.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
You know, it's okay to go, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
My mother. Everyone that's not your mother, that's your co host.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's your co host over there too.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, that's why I do this other Honestly, it's a
good question because I mean, I've picked a lot of songs,
but one song that I have definitely have held onto
and I'm introduced.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Her to it.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
It's called I'm Fine But I can't remember his Kyle something.
I can't remember his name by that song. That was
my tear up song if I am in like down
on my slumps. I listened to that song and it
because it just it speaks out on.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Who I am.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
So the next question in the purpose of this podcast
is if you could break this stigma about mental health.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Anything you hear that just like you just like stop
that's not right from your own personal experience or something
you've learned.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
What would it be?

Speaker 3 (42:06):
The lack of validation and emotions. People aren't gonna like
this that. You can edit it if you want.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oh, we're going to keep it.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
We're going to keep it up. Now, we're going to
keep it. This is your opinion. So anybody get mad about.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Your opinion, my own personal opinion of the things that
I've been through. Doctors have been psychologists have been rough,
really really hard, and you can't sit in a room
with somebody for fifteen minutes and think you know something
about them. You know, some medications are needed, but there's
a lot of more natural things that we need to
look at.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, there's a whole lot more natural.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Things that we need to look at and that are
being overlooked. And I have used personally and I still
use personally. There's natural things out there that are so
much better and we need to step away from the
pharmaceutical Oh you things.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I agree, trust me.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I have some people for you to introduce you to
that do a lot of alternative stuff. I've had a
bunch of alternative dealers and I'm more for that side
than anything.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I think that that's the biggest thing with therapiest.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
People start to think that they're going to start giving
you pills right away and all these other things, And
I'm just like you, there's other options out there, so
many different ones. A Cci said, you know, there's different
like way more than I can even count on one hand.
If there just different things that are way different you
could try versus you know, traditional talk there.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Because everybody is so different.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Everybody's so different, and you know, and if you're gonna
so I played a lot of the Russian roulette with
medications with my head injury and the things that it
was causing. There was a lot of Russian roulette with
and then with things that caused seizures as well, like
medications that caused more seizures and stuff, and it's it's

(43:45):
really really, really, really really difficult.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
I much rather play that with the natural substances and
natural things like just just getting proper nutrition any is
going to make a world of difference, you know, which
is really difficult these days with their food industry.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
And we're not going to get all into that.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
We're gonna call tie when the episode CC versus the
food in this here and just let her go off
like here you go, just go and ram off a bottom.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Let up be a couple episodes.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
A right, part three, and she's just still going on
continuous stream of just words just coming out and it
just keeps going.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah you know, so yeah, yeah that is me, Yeah
that is me.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
No, but yeah, there is different things.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
So, like I interviewed the last few days, I had
two people on about psychedelics and things like that. They've
used them, but they're micro dosing them for like.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
MICRODENTI sing and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
I have no people that personally did it, and I
use other things, you.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Know, and things like that too. Yes, all I kind
of stopped.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
That is where where with me with the seizures and
stuff like that, that and the anxiety, the PTSD, that's where.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
That's where it is with me, and that's what's helped me.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Not only did it help me with that stuff, and
I'm gonna be honest, it helped me with overcoming the
other things I was addicted to.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, no, it makes sense. I mean it works, So
I'm all for the natural stuff. Honestly. CB is a
big one in my house. For me, man, it helps
anxiety a lot sometimes, you know, it's all about figuring
out what the doses you want to get to. Because,
don't get me wrong, I had a couple that were
a little too strong, and yeah, we're not gonna talk
about what happened then because I actually I actually did

(45:26):
a podcast. I did a podcast before this one where
I recorded an episode.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I was so gone. I don't even remember the whole conversation.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Honestly, I was just like, yeah, I took it, and
I was like, shit, that's right. I got to record
something today with you know, my co host. So I
popped one and I was just like, hmm, yeah it was.
It was a whole nother level pee I think it was.
I think it's called Pete's elevation or something called it.
Because I was gone, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Was done. I was done.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
There was nothing left to be said there. I was
just like completely lost, and she was like, are you okay? No,
I took an edible before I started doing this, but
let's go and record this. Anyways, we'll be okay. It's like,
are you sure you don't want to wait? No, no,
we got to keep consistent. We got to record something today.
So I was just gone, Like I was like, yeah,
I don't even remember half the conversation.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I start trailing off the conversation.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I'm just trailing off, gone in my own little world,
and she's like trying to pull it back and she's
like yeah. Afterwards, she's like, why did you let us
record this? I'm like, oh, don't know, let's see what happens.
This might be fun to see what people say about
how high I am in this picture, you know. But
you know, I agree, though I think the alternatives are
way better. I don't like any of those medications because
if you listen to those flashy commercials, they get you

(46:33):
all excited and then it's like, well, some side effis
are and they just start listing those side effects. It's
so deceiving because it's just like, you know, you caught
my attention.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh this is so great.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
It's supposed to fix these problems, but then you have
more problems to the list. It's like, huh, you're not
supposed to do that.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
And then the research that I have done on a
lot of things is led me to go hm. Now
there's a lot of misinformation and a lot of of.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Deception, to say the least.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
No, I agree, I agree, there's a lot of deception
goes on. Well, that being said, guys, we're gonna wrap
up this episode of Pete for Society. Ladies, thank you
so much for coming. Appreciate you being my guest today.
If you want to liberately know where they can find you,
where your podcast is available, where you drop it. All
that great knowledge for them so they know where to
find you guys. Look at y'all, look at each other here,
look at They're not prepared for this conversation.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
That's half of that's you know, when we watched your
episode with Jay, when I watch we were watching it
and you were talking about how you know, you just
you don't know what you're doing. You're just just throwing
it together. Both of us were like, because I'm like, okay,
I need to start sitting down and planning things out
and this and that, and I'm like, how do you
plan these out?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
You can't, it just can't.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
It gets easier every time you have record. It gets
easier after a while, and after two in our episodes,
it's so easy to just start the conversation with people
because you used it used to be like at first,
my anxiety just kick on and I'd be panicked.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I'm sweating bullets before I.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Hit it, and then I hit it, and then we
go into it and it's just like I was so
like it did conversation float okay? But then it gots
better as I go because the more you do do
you do it, it'll get better.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Trust me, it gets so much easier.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I bet it does.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
But I will say that we're on Spotify, We're on
Apple Podcasts, we are on YouTube, we are on Amazon Music.
And then there's a bunch of little ones that I
don't know their names. They're just a bunch of random
podcast ones.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Most podcast platforms. Yeah, we're on thost podcast platforms. We
haven't made it to iHeartRadio or Pandora yet. I haven't
made it that far, but we're getting there. We're getting there.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
But if you do go on to like Amazon Music, Spotify,
you type in look in through the Glass exactly how
it's spelled on the screen.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
It will pop right up on the on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
And if they want to reach out to you, it's
the best to reach out email, Instagram, Where do you
prefer to hit you of TikTok?

Speaker 4 (48:51):
I know you're so many now between TikTok and they
can reach out to us on TikTok or they can
reach out to us through the email.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
We still have a Facebook. We also have a look
In through the Last Facebook if you want to. If
you can, they want to d m us on that.
But the email, once again is one to look in
t h R U three four the Glass at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I can't even give me your card.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
In the background, You're like, you got to me back there,
like holding a gun up telling you to read this
cute card. You're like, okay, well it's like this, and
I'm just like, I just grabbed me up so much.
When you start reading the email again, I'm like, oh God,
here we go, because.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
She gotta through.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
She couldn't make it short. You know happens when you
leave me in charge of things.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
But with that being said, guys, we're gonna wrap this
episode of Pete for Anxiety.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
What's the latest thing? Streuch for being here, Guys, you
can find me. I'm Pete for Anxiety and Spotify all
the way down to her radio. I'm gonna ask all
me down to TikTok.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Everyone, I'm like, VI's everyone want me to be And
let's always say it costs nothing, absolutely not to be
kind of somebody, one kind act. You can do the same,
Samese life for hell, you can you make their day?
I peeked for so Anxiety saying I'm saying, don't ask
how your day is today, say hey, what is your
mental health today?