The Musical Journey of KNoWTe

Summary
In this episode of Pete vs. Anxiety, host Pete interviews KNoWTe, an emerging artist known for his unique blend of musical influences. They discuss KNoWTe's journey from poetry to music, the impact of family on his artistic development, and the role of social media in discovering new talent. The conversation delves into the importance of mental health, the connection between music and personal struggles, and the nostalgia associated with music from their youth. KNoWTe shares insights on finding one's unique sound and the significance of creating an experience for the audience during performances. In this engaging conversation, Pete and KNoWTe explore a variety of topics ranging from personal stories about love and marriage to their shared passion for music and anime. They reflect on the evolution of media, the nostalgia for classic anime, and the importance of mental health awareness. KNoWTe shares insights on the struggles of mental health and the misconceptions surrounding it, emphasizing the need for understanding and grace in dealing with mental health issues.


Takeaways
Music has always been a part of KNoWTe's life.
KNoWTe transitioned from spoken word poetry to music.
Family influences play a significant role in KNoWTe's music.
Social media is a powerful tool for discovering new artists.
Finding a unique sound is essential for artists.
Mental health is a recurring theme in KNoWTe's music.
Music can help people connect and escape their struggles.
Success is not solely defined by monetary gain.
Creating an engaging experience for the audience is important.
Nostalgia plays a significant role in music appreciation. KNoWTe recently got married after a nine-year relationship.
They met in college while studying audio engineering technology.
KNoWTe introduced his wife to rock music, balancing their musical tastes.
Anime is a shared passion, with discussions on favorite series and characters.
They reminisce about the golden age of anime and Saturday morning cartoons.
Mental health is a constant battle, not a fixed state.
The stigma around mental health often oversimplifies the experience.
KNoWTe's favorite song representing his mental health is 'Car Radio' by Twenty One Pilots.
They discuss the evolution of anime and media consumption.
Nostalgia for classic shows and characters shapes their current interests.




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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome in to our excited get out of Pete
for Anxiety. I have a very special guest joining me.
He's going to be the artist of season three's intro
song in the artist that made the song called you
The Trust the Process, Prease. Welcome to the One the
Only Noe. How you doing, buddy, talk to everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm doing good. It's great to finally make this happen,
you know, like we were before we started. You know,
this has kind of felt like a long time coming.
We've been interapting over social media and stuff like that,
so just kind of have this in real time and
get to share my story with your your growing audience.
Is like, I'm just thankful. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Listen, man, you've been responsive since day one. Since ever
I've met a essage, You've always been responding back to.
It's just kind of cool because with a lot of people,
it's hard to respond. A lot of myss just me
and another guests were actually talking about that she's an
international bestseller, and her and I were laughing about that.
She's like, yeah, Pe'll get mad when I don't respond.
It's my assistant responding. I'm like, yeah, I wish I

(01:15):
could get to that level, you know, have my assistant
respond for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm glad I'm still able to
have like the personal touch.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know, one of these days that might not happen,
but I'm very thankful I get the opportunity. That's like okay,
you know, especially when like someone like yourself messages, I'm like, okay,
I definitely want to make sure I respond to this.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Right man, So why don't you tell everybody a little
bit about yourself? Because I know you're still kind of
new to the scene. So people are starting to hear
a song. I use your song on almost everything I can.
It's actually on the outro for most of the videos too,
so people are hearing it all the time. So give
them a little background about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah. So, like you said, my name is Note, I
spell it a little different, knowte I'll share end up
how how that spelling ended up coming to be. But
as far as like my story, you know, music has
always been part of me. I think a lot of
people who are like gravitated towards this art form. It's
something that's just ingrained in them, right, you know, It's

(02:13):
not like a central moment that it's like, Okay, this
was the moment I knew. It's just kind of like,
you know, to me, it's almost like like as needing
as breathing, you know. But my father he did the
music thing prior to me. He went by the name
PhD to PhD back in like the nineties and stuff

(02:33):
like that stood for like poetry, highly dangerous. So he
was like big into like the acronyms and hip hop
and stuff like that. But then around the time that
I was born, he had a tough decision to make.
He had to choose between either going for music or
you know, which can be up and down for supplying
for family, or go for something more like concrete. So

(02:57):
he decided to go for something more stable, you know,
which is a sacrifice I'll forever be grateful for. You know,
that's not a sacrifice I want to make, but would
make for my child. So I appreciate the fact that,
you know, he he chose to do that. But he
always kept music in and around me. Right, He had

(03:17):
a home studio in his in the house at all times.
So I just remember growing up on music, whether it
be his records that he played from time to time,
or you know, like my mom, you know, she grew
up more so on like the rock side of things,
which I think is where like the hybrids.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Kind of you kind of see that element with your
your stuff now a little bit of your dad and
your mom showed up. You say that at those.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's really interesting because, like as
I always say, as like fifty cent was like being
played a ton of times in my household, I Van
Essence was also being played equally as much, and Lincoln
Park and stuff like that. Yeah, definitely, so, so it
was definitely like a hybrid sort of background. And then

(04:03):
you know, once I got into high school, like most
high schoolers, you're trying to figure out your place in
this world, right, you know, you're trying to figure out,
you know, like who you want to be, what's your calling,
what's your purpose? And at that time, you know, I
was coming to the realization that, you know what, maybe
football isn't going to be my end all be all, Oh,
there's something more to my life that I want to do,

(04:27):
I want to pursue, And I fell in love with music.
I started off in spoken word poetry, did a ton
of open mics, sharing poetry and stuff of that nature,
and then from there just sort of transitioned into written
and recorded music with my first like record as note,
you know, being posted on SoundCloud when I was like

(04:51):
seventeen eighteen and I'm twenty seven now it's been it's
been a long time, and I'm excited to just continue
the journey.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
The meet It's in your blood, man, your mom did it.
Your mom was big as rock. Your dad was really
bigger than the rap site. And like I said, you
could see it in your music. You can feel that
little elements of them coming through because I remember trust
the process. When originally it started, it was it's kind
of like that movie that thing you do. Remember how
the original song that thing you do is a lot softer,
and then somebody's like, hey, pick up the pace a

(05:20):
little bit, and then it just kind of took off
like that, and it just made sense after that. So,
I mean, I loved it. I thought it was great.
I've been obsessed with it. Dude. I'm constantly work screaming
and trusting trust to people just staring at me like
what are you talking? Mom?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like, dude, you that makes me so happy because like
that's like.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's so catchy though, because dude, I'm like, I'm singing
this across the room and people staring at me, and
I'm like, y'all do know this song. I'm like, Yo,
we're missing out on this. You gotta check this out.
And I always tell people too, every time I meet somebody. Yeah,
So I love I love music. I'm like I was
telling you a favorite carder. I love music, dude. I
listened to everything. Some of my favorite artists are the
John Reisnick from The Google The Dolls is number one,
Papa Roachi's number two, you know, and then we get

(05:58):
in Disdained and Cold. You know, they're right there at
four and five. Kustayne was a big part of my
high school years and things like that too. You know.
I like slipknot, I like everything. I listened to a
lot of stuff, and I kind of go across the
lines of everything to some songs.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I listen a lot some rap here and there because
had a friend who was big in a rap so
we would listen to that too. But I was more
of the rock guy and I loved listen to everything.
And then I got into punk rock, and I, oh, dude,
it took off from there.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love that smoke or fire against me, you know,
all that different kind of mixtures all together. It's always
anything that's catching enough for me. Man, I'll just constantly
start singing, and people just so, what are you listening to?
Oh man, you haven't heard this, you know, and then
let me bleed. When I met them through TikTok and
Alive and Stone, I was talking all about their stuff too,
And I've known them from the beginning as well. You know,
Alex from Alive and Stone has been on the show.

(06:44):
Me and him hung out a little bit. Him and
a couple of other guys. I'm sorry, Brian, my bad,
Brian the everything else I am from Alive and Soent
have been on the show. He was actually one of
the first musicians I ever did within the first month
of the show, so he agreed to come on and
me and him were just chatting up a storm. So like,
I love it, man. I think what you're doing is great.
I think that you're here in the direction and you
you know, I just can't wait to see what else
you're coming up with.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, no, I'm excited. And you know, to have individuals
like yourself who take the time to search for new
talent or be willing to listen to new talent. You know,
like this industry can oftentimes be extremely saturated, especially with
a barrier of entry being lowered and lowered, which is good.
I'm glad that people are able to have a voice.

(07:26):
Everyone needs a voice and something to share. At the
same time, though, I've asked somebody who's trying to pursue
a career in this, you know, it's tough to to
to you know, push through the noise to be heard.
So when someone likes yourself comes around, it's like, you
know what, I am going to give a year and
I am going to listen to this, and I'm not
only going to listen to this, but I am going

(07:47):
to advocate for it. I'm like through the moon on that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I love it. I
use I used the sounding where I can and things
like that. You know, I use a lot of different
music and things like that as I go. But yeah,
to TikTok has been real great source for that. I
got a lot of people that come down my feet
and then you came on my feet and I was like, ooh,
what's this. I'm interested. Here we go and you're just
watching it, and then just the energy you get from
when you're performing. Man, it's just like shit, okay, cool,

(08:12):
all right, let me let me say okay, I like this.
And then more people start showing. So the more I
keep my interacting with people such as yourself, more small
time artists keep coming through and it's great. Yeah. I
think one of the first artists every Day was a
guy named David. He plays for the Theorists. But they
sound kind of like they have They sound like blink
winy two ish a little bit, you know, but I
like bink wwiniy'sbeck And when I was a kid though,
so I was like, hell, yeah, this sounds good, and

(08:34):
you know, so it's really cool, like what you discover
when you're on TikTok, you know, because I know it
gets such a bad rap, but people it's like use
it to your vantage, like this is how I meeting
a lot of people. And then when Lucy came on
the show, people were like, well, how did you get
it on the show. I was like, funny story. I
went on her Instagram made a comment say, hey, listen,
would you be interested in being on my mental health podcast?
And she said, yes, out of twenty thousand followers, she
saw my thing. And to this day we still talk.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. It shows the power of what
you're doing here, you know, and you and energy speaks
for itself. Like I think that's the one thing that
I've always tried to bring to the table is that,
like I know that what I what I do isn't
necessarily common, right, you know, like nowadays, and so sometimes

(09:17):
it can be seen as a little off wall or
not like the typical sound. But I'm I'm going to
give my all to it because but.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
You want to be unique in your own son. I
get Bill Brian's theory was, is that a lot of
people borrow from other artists, Which, yeah, it's great, you
know in your style, man, you give off that like
Frontman side, like that eighties hair metal kind of feel.
But ye what the modern sound kind of thing, you
know what I'm saying. I'm thinking like Motley Crue and
things like that. Because I watched that documentary. I think
it was phenomenal. But you know, you've seen that was

(09:46):
just enriched in their lives and things like that too,
you know. And then your mom and dad being big
in the music as well as your big influences as well.
You know, it's kind of cool to see that, you know,
you're trying to pursue something like this, you know, and
apparently you're doing pretty well because I keep seeing posts
you going out to these club to doing tour dates
and things. So it's pretty cool to see that though.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, things are definitely starting to pick up,
especially once I had like a moment around the time
on the fact that like you brought like the previous
version of trust the process, you know, around that time
I had I guess I could say a mentor at
the time. There's always that one person that looks at
like kind of like what you're doing. You're like, okay,
there's potential there, but let me point you in the

(10:25):
right direction. And it was like twenty twenty two and
twenty three, eight, twenty twenty two, maybe early twenty twenty
three where he looked at me and he was like,
why are you trying to be a hip hop artist?
You know, what you bring to hip hop is cool,
but you have rock bones, like the way you form
even in your recorded music, all those there. It's primarily
in hip hop as far as the beats, your your

(10:47):
your delivery, and everything is rock. Why are you trying
to be hip hop? Go? You should dive into rock.
So I was like, Okay, let me take a shot
at this because it's a side of myself. I've always been,
I guess timid to share. It was something that I
guess I kept close to the vest, you know, always
afraid to be like that weird kid or whatever, because

(11:08):
that's what was told to me in high school when
I would try to share certain sides of myself. So
when that moment happened and I and I was like,
you know what I'm I'm just going to go full tail,
a lot of momentum started to pick up. You know,
people started paying attention to the to the big red hair.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, it was just stands out. Man. It's the first
color you see if you really think about your color,
actice the color. And you know, I love the name
too because the typography is a big thing for me too.
So like that's why in my Instagram name it's completely
spelled incorrect ye or it's got the more ends in
it because it drives people nuts because they're like, oh,
they don't like breaking the norm, right, and you gotta
think though other people are mixing those kinds of styles,

(11:45):
like you know, hop a Roach. That's why one of
my favorites, because I like the fact that, you know
how the song kind of flows. You know, he has
those other ones that are real soft and other things,
but he can always just go really quick he needs
to you, So I kind of felt that when I
was listening to Trust the Process, I'm like, oh, dude,
this sounds kind of like you know little you know,
everybody compares everybody to everybody, which is great because it's
like a lot of people sound similar, but you yourself

(12:07):
are a unique artist on its own, you know what
I mean. Everybody has a different story when it comes
to it.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate that, you know. I,
like you said, I try to I think it's just
me trying to just be me. I never went into
it like, Okay, I want to go into it sounding
like that person.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I went into it with influence. It's like most people, Yeah, definitely,
but like I definitely went into it saying, you know what,
I want to make music that I like to listen to. Yeah,
you know, one of my biggest inspirations is twenty one
Pilots and they.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's funny you say that because a friend of mine
just went to a twenty one Pilot show. He was, yeah,
he actually listen to the show. So, Andrew, if you're
hearing this, listen, he said, twenty one Pilots.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
He likes to tell me about these bands, like I
don't know who they are. He's like, oh, you know
the twenty one Pilots is. I'm like, yes, dude, I
know they are.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah. No, they're phenomenal, like they were the first like,
the first ever song I learned on the keyboard was
car Radio. Like twenty one Pilus is a huge inspiration
of mine. And one of the things that they always
preached is, you know, just be yourself, you know, unapologetically
and do for others, and when you perform, make it

(13:12):
about others. So that's why I like, you know, I
would go to like these hip hop bills that had
be put on and I would stand out because I
would make the performance about the people who attended the
show instead of look at me and how cool I am.
It was like, let's create an environment that you feel like, Okay,

(13:33):
I came out to an experience I was able to
escape for the ten minutes, fifteen minutes or twenty minutes
you're on stage. You know, those are the type of
moments I tried to create. I remember there was a
show very early on when I was still doing like
smaller hip hop bills that there was. It was in
like this coffee shop and there was a chair and
in one of my songs, I was like, you know,

(13:56):
I wanted to do like a jump thing. So I
was like, I climbed on the chair and I've had
everyone put their hands up, and it was the owner
looked at me. It was just like, get off that chair.
And I was like, I'm so sorry. And then after me,
it was so funny because then the host was like,
by the way, I didn't know I had to say this,
but no climbing on the chairs.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I was like, my bad, sorry man, I'm in the moment, dude,
right but in my rockstar moment, gosh, man.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Let me have it. Like the people, the crowd loved it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They remembered it right right exactly. No, man, it's it's
awesome though. I'm so happy for you. I'm glad to
see that your things are happening for you. And then
you're you're just doing your own thing, man. Yeah, And
I think that's really what it comes down to, is
just you know, owning your sound and stuff like that too.
Like you know, Tannis from Life's Lost, he was on
the show as well, and he's always interesting to watch
too because he's very animated. So you kind of give

(14:48):
that feel too, Like you know, a lot of people
love that, you know, when you're out there just connected
with the crowd and stuff. Even in those smaller spaces,
I feel like those are better. You know, getting on
the bigger pinus are nice, but when you're that close
to people, like there's we're hearing. So there's one called
the Southside Ballroom we were at and Jacobe gets off
stage and gets in the crowd kind of thing, which
you know, it's it's kind of one of those fifty

(15:08):
to fifty experiences when you get off but you know,
like he just likes to be in the crowd of people.
I could just see that though. Eventually you're gonna just
send up crowdsurfing across that thing. Watch. I'm just I'm
gonna wait for that moment. With some of the records,
you're going, all right, let's go for it and just
leap over there and go for another kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
So you got to be me, that's it. That's definitely
something I want to do. I didn't know Dallas. That's
so cool. I'm gonna have to make my way out
there one of these days.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh yeah, definitely. Oh yeah, for sure, man, that'd be awesome. Yeah,
that's why I'm not saying we're watching the tour days.
I'm like, when you come in the Dallas area, when
you come to the Dallas area, you know, because I've
always wanted to see you know. I unfortunately missed Hannis
from Lives Lost when he came to Dallas because my
wife had an operation the night before, so I couldn't go.
And I was like, she's doing.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, Okay, good good.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
So you know, a lot of people I appreciate everybody
reaching out and I even know their thoughts and prayers. Andything,
she's doing really well now, she's she's feeling a lot
better now, so you know, but and all that kind
of stuff. So you've been you know, you're a big
mental health advocate. Do you have family members that suffer
from mental health or or do you deal with the issues.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, so mental health is definitely something that is it's
big for me. It's it's something that is a through
line and a lot of my music, I guess, to
speak on myself personally, you know, gravitated towards music because
it was a form of escape. Not really realize that,
you know, maybe I did need to talk to somebody,

(16:28):
you know, didn't take until I became an adult, and Okay,
with the fact that I can go talk to somebody that,
you know, things started to get a little easier, you know,
I myself small form, but like like anxiety induced like OCD,
so like I'll like click my door locks like a

(16:49):
bunch of different times until it feels right, you know.
And yeah, I remember like I feel like the intake
form and they were like, oh, like you definitely suffer
from like general anxiety and stuff of that nature. I
was like, okay, so it wasn't just a feeling that
you know, I guess was lingering in the background, like

(17:11):
it was like something legitimate. And then like my not
to name anyone specific in my family because I definitely
don't want to get that completely anything on them. Addiction
definitely does run in my family.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, it goes hand in handled manteld to think about
addiction and mental is the same thing. A lot of
people will take medications because you're trying to fix the
problems and not realize that they have the issue. So
I mean it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, exactly exactly, And like you know, alcohol oftentimes was
the escape of you know, or the escape of choice
for some members within my family. You know, they're they're
doing better now. One of them just passed a year
sober something incredible. That's awesome them. I know that it
was like a hard fought, you know, battle, and I

(17:54):
was there in like the early stages and stuff of
that nature, and it's just sort of good to see
him come back to himself.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, No, addiction and mental health, it's definitely core to me,
not only because I witnessed it, but because I just
feel as though that music in most arts, but music
is the one for me that can transcend a lot
of different feelings and get things off your chest that

(18:24):
you normally can't really portray or feel connected to to
something bigger than yourself that maybe don't feel connected to yourself,
but you feel connected to these sounds that somebody's sharing.
So to me, that's why I write music, Like yeah,
there's songs that you know, you got to be braggadocious
here and there, But to me, I write so that

(18:46):
in those three minutes that you have me in your ears,
you're escaping into or pulled into something, maybe not escape,
but like pulled in something that you feel connected to
in those times.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I agreement. I think that's why Chester Pennington was so
big though he had such an influential, you know, and
people that didn't get to hear the earlier when he
first came out, you know, I think they missed out, like, yeah,
you can go back and list it. But when you
were there in the moment when he came out originally,
like just the songs alone, you connected to instantly because
this is a man telling his own stories of his
own battles, you know. And unfortunately lost him. And when

(19:20):
he passed, so many people came out of the woodworks,
like man, he influenced so many other people, you know,
And I wonder if he knew what he was doing
and know that that he was going to leave his
message away. He did, you know, And it proves that
you know, everybody deals with something regardless. He was ultra famous,
had all these things going on, and he still struggles
with things, you know, And I think that's it's crazy though,

(19:40):
because we don't want to talk about these things, like,
you know, people think that it feels so taboo to
talk about your you tell, but we can talk about
cancer all these other things, but why can't we talk
about what's going on in our head? Sometimes?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I I completely agree. I think the
biggest fallacy that a lot of people believe is that
success negates you from feeling depression or anxiety or loss
or failure. Like success isn't measured monetarily. I know for

(20:14):
a lot of people it is, especially these day and age. Right,
the economy isn't the best and all that sort of thing.
So you know, people, you know, I myself sometimes fall
victim to like, well, if only I had a million dollars,
like all my problems will be solved. But you know,
at the end of the day, like it won't be,
you know, because it wasn't the money that was the issue.

(20:36):
It was a sense of purpose and fulfillment. And if
you lose that sense of purpose along the way, or
that that driving force that fulfillment, it can be a
very daunting feeling. I think there was an artist, not
was is logic. He's another great artist and one of
an early inspiration of mine. And he said that when

(20:58):
he made the suicide awareness so he was finally starting
to get the traction that he's always dreamed of, that
that was the moment that he was at his darkest,
Which feels counterintuitive, right, It's like you've worked so hard
to get to this moment and you finally get there.
Why was this the darkest moment? You would think the
times you were barely scrape and by would be the

(21:20):
darkest moment. But he explained that, like you think, when
you get everything that you think you need, all your
problems will be solved, But then you wake up the
next day and nothing's changed. So it's that again realization
that like the problem wasn't the thing that you're chasing.
That you were chasing could oftentimes be a distraction. So

(21:44):
you definitely need to like try to check within yourself
as best you can connect with communities, whatever community it is.
It really doesn't matter anything that you feel a calling for, right,
that you feel a safe space for.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think I think ultimately people are drawn to connection
to feel like groundedness and wherever that comes from it,
come from an art form, a community, whatever it is.
Just I think that that is that is what oftentimes
works when you lose that groundedness. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I think you make a great point though, because
it's like, you know, when people connect their music and
you know, when they come up to someone and they
tell them, well, hey, listen, your song got me through
the darkest days of whatever, you know, whatever the situation was.
I think it's the greatest connection for most people because
it's like, all right, you made this song. Okay, it's popular,
But when someone says that it helped them through I
think that honestly, and maybe you can contest is Shoe

(22:45):
that that was the greatest feeling of all. You know,
you have things great and all, but someone coming up
to you and saying, hey, listen, note I listen to
your song. Man, it got me through the roughest times
in my day.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
You've already made the it made you year right there. Okayeah,
that's awesome. I'm glad that you know I could help
you in more ways. To know. We may not know
each other, but I helped you get through these darkest times,
you know, and a lot of the songs like Hold
like that too. I don't know if you ever listened
to them, but they're like a lot of their stuff's
kind of like has a dark feeling about it, you know,
but at the same time, it's just like, for whatever reason,

(23:16):
I drew my attention to him, because I didn't know
who they were at first until somebody introduced me to him,
and then I went through We started going back and
listening through their discography and I was like, man, I
love this because I like stained. Aaron Lewis was a
big one for me too for a while. And then
then I seen these guys and I was like, man,
all right, well this is what's up here. I like this,
you know. And then that led me to explore other

(23:36):
other avenues of other songs and other things. And as
I started digging deep, but the Google dolls, Like I said,
the song Iris, I felt that one like, you know,
like the Isolation and things like that too, because I
spent a lot of time as a kid alone by myself,
Like I spent a lot of time by myself. In fact,
when I was ten, my mom abandoned me. So when
I lived with my dad, he was never home, he
was always out working, and then his girlfriend and whatever

(23:57):
girlfriend was there at the time, and when we were
with the Wong Turn for a little bit, she was
never home too because she was working. So I spent
a lot of time, so I could feel his isolation,
of him looking down at the world and you know,
people not seeing who he is, you know, and you know,
not knowing anything about him. But I spent all this time,
all the way through high school myself, so I could
relate to a lot of the songs there, you know,
and things like that too. But you know, I also

(24:18):
like click. I listen to Marilyn Manson. I know it
freaks a lot of people out, but I love Mary
so I just I just love his expressiveness and that
the fact that he's not he doesn't give a fuck
what people think about it. He's just going to go
for it, you know, at the end of the day.
And that's the shock value he went through, you know,
and he knew what he was doing. When he was
doing it, P're like, oh, what are you? And then
the nineties had all those rumors about him and he's
just like, he's like, whatever, I'm not gonna say now.
Only y'all keep talking all you want yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, hey, hey, sometimes bad publicity is still publicity, right,
you know, people are still.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Talking about you know what I mean? And the nine
and Snails is another big one.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I grew up in the nineties, man, one hit Wonder
central just different songs that came through.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, well now we got different different versions of one
hit wonders, right, Like you get big talk sound like,
you know, are some of your pop off off of
like the thirty seconds of their song, you know, and
then everyone goes to see them perform, but they only
know the thirty seconds. So it's like, I don't know,
maybe I'd rather be a one hit Wonder in the
nineties because at least you'll know the whole song not clear, you.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Know what I'm saying, Like what is those guys from Tumblewamba?
Like everybody knows that song and then when you hear
it again, you're just like, God, I'm that old that
I remember this song.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's like all these songs were like oh this, I'm like, God,
I'm classic rock now. My music's classic rock. I remember
classic rock being Motley Crue, you know, and all these
other ones. You know, It's like hmm, no, you know
like old school Metallica, not the new school. So if
we're talking old school hair metal Metallica, you know things
like that, it's like, damn, I'm that old. Hush I
just hid forties past year. Man, I'm just like, fuck,

(25:44):
I'm old. But you know it's been great though.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, Yeah, time is weird. I'm like because I feel
that too, right, Like my my high school years were
pierced the veil sleeping with irons A Data Remember I
love Data, Remember Data remembers fantastic. And I literally just
saw a post that said I forget the name of
the album, but it was one of their notable ones.

(26:08):
It came out twelve years ago, and I was like,
I remember being a sophomore in high school, like mad
excited that this album came out, and like me and
my friends ran to the lunch table and were like
going to listen to it. And now that music is
being considered like elder emo, and I'm like, what are
we talking about here?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Exactly listen. I could date joll help with this one.
My sophomore year high school, I remember turning on MTV
when it had videos, and the first music video I
ever saw my sophomore year was last resort by Papa Roach.
That's how old I am. I just dated all of
you out.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, Yeah, no, I was born full. I was born
in ninety eight. I'm a ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh you were on the tail end of everything. Oh
so you missed a lot of shit. Dare I did?
One was another big one for me. Like, you know,
I just like Jonathan Davis's delivery of like how we
did the song. It was fast paced with the metal
sound to it. You know. Slipnot was great, you know,
but you know, they got a lot of but you know,
it's funny though they get a lot of backlash, but
when you really look into the guys, they're very, very

(27:11):
big into you know, religion and and things like that too,
you know, and it's like everybody has a somebody said
Ramstein was big may those guys from Germany, those guys
are really interesting at the time to watch, God, what
do we have Blank Winnie too. We had boy bands,
you know, listen, we had Backstreet Boys. You know, you
had the whole debate of Backstreet versus Ain't seeing who's better.
You know, we had those kind of discussions going on,
you know. So yeah, hell, I remember CDs are big.

(27:33):
I know, we're going real road school now. I remember
when CDs are big before you know, Pandora and Spotify
and all these other things come out.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Luckily, I was like still around to when like CDs
were still a thing. Granted they're on like their way
out because you know, once I got to like late
elementary school, early middle school was when everyone was like
illegally downloading you know.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Napster, Yeah, Napster, you know Jauzam Oh yeah up, yep,
all this O was yeah yeah, god man, I feel old.
It was Napster sued Metallica suit Napster for all that
money and everything too. After all that, and it was
like just people just want more different access to it,
Like CDs are great, but it's like we were getting
to that point where you started seeing the iPod start

(28:18):
showing up, and then that other weird off central one
was yeah like three players for getting big and competitor
yeah no yeah, the one that never lasted yeah, you know,
and things like that too. And it was so interesting
to watch it as it evolved too, because then you
could link it to your car radio. My brother, he
he had like the first like beginnings of ages of
like Bluetooth radio where he could take his face plate

(28:39):
off his radio, taking the house load's MP three's on
and have all his music on there. And we thought
that was the coolest thing ever. Yeah, because you know,
we had those burn CDs where you just burning ship
on the CD, trying to make your own little mixes
and stuff and driving around the speakers blast and yeah, dude,
those are the days.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Though, Like I loved it, reminiscent. This is awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'm telling you, man, I love music, dude. I'm a
big music guy. I love rock. Like I said, rock
was huge for me. I gotta check out any of
these little interesting bands that come out to one hit wonders,
you know. And then she started listening to some of them.
It's like the Wallflowers o K. Take for example. Tell
me anybody that tells you they get to listen any
other song on those albums except for one head Lighter
lying to you, K. They see the only song they
were good for, you know, and they that's it. You

(29:17):
don't know anything else. All the other songs was a shit.
You got to the other parts of the album and
you're like, what the fuck is this crap? This is
just like, what is this shit?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Like it was like it's hard to find a complete
album to listen to, you know that you could listen
front to back, you know. Last Resort by pop Roach
is their their their album in Fest Sorry if I'm okay,
And the in Fest album by pop Roach is the
first one I've ever listened to front to back. I
don't know what it was. It was just the sound
that connected me. I just loved it all. And they
had that hidden track near the end where it was

(29:47):
just nothing but rhythm the whole time, and he's just
kind of going off like he's freestyling anti end or whatever,
you know. And then it got to when it got
to my punk rock face, I got into Rice Against Now,
the Witness and the Software hands down my favorite album
of all time. I could listen to that front to back,
not even skip a song at all, and I knew
every word to every song. But it was just like
it was that connection you had because I just love

(30:10):
the flow. It all kind of flowed together, you know,
and things like that too. So they're they're massively high
on my list. They're like number three on my artists lists. Yeah, people,
I just listened to on a general basis, So anything
new they come up with I listen to. Now that
I'm a podcaster, I've always listened a lot of podcasts too,
Like I have too many to even list that I
listen to. But I'm always mixing it up with different things.
But let me bleed. You Alive and sown in Live's

(30:32):
Loss are now taking over the now more portion, Well,
let me bleed, man, dude, I don't know if you've
every checked out any their stuff. Oh my god, Eddie's
making something lot about I've seen you post a lot
about them. You'll like share their posts, and I really
like it. I like what they're bringing to the table
for sure, Eddie. Any of them are amazing too. He
did a great cover of the what was the Ten
Statues that Bleed Blood? Holy shit? It was really good too,

(30:54):
you know, and things like that too. But it's it's
interesting to if you think about where some of these
people started to where the now. The evolution of their
sound alone is different, like you know, and it was great.
Castaine was like that. They were like real kind of
like and then when it hit the later years is
when it really started taking off because a lot of
their stuff started sounding a lot different than what their
original sound was, you know, like Thirteen Shades of Gray.

(31:16):
It was a way different album versus Everything four, And
it's the same to Metallica. I liked Metallica before, saying
after Saint Ainger we could argue all day that I did.
I didn't really care for it as much. I just
liked their their sound. But I grew up in the eighties,
so I'm used to hearing a lot of that stuff too.
So I was eighty five, so my mom was a
big Kiss fan and things like that too. So you know,
when I see you, though, I see that Gene Simmons

(31:37):
coming out too a little bit. Man. There's nothing wrong
with that though, because Jeene Simmons stood out every everyone
knows who Gene Simmons is nowadays, Like he could walk
down the street and you could see him eye probably
remembers from the Doctor Pepper commercially.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
You all don't understand the greatness that he was.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, no, especially once I did the like
the Quinn the like makeup, you know a point in
which like people are like, are you going to do
that on stage? I was like maybe one of these days.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Like maybe it's like they'll do some kiss cover songs. Yeah,
I could just see it, dude, just get the big
old like a big prosthetic tongue. I'm like, Simmons, just
start looking look at it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
People where just now, Oh my god, that'd be great
the song out anyway, my wife hates it, but like
we'll be in we'll be regular photos. I'll just be like,
and she'd be like, why are you doing that? Like
you know any other posts. I'm like, I don't know.
It just feels right.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
So let's get into this though. Okay, so about your wife?
What about tell us a little bit about your wife. Man,
that's awesome. I didn't know you were married.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I recently got married, so that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Okay, my bad. I do remember now because I've ember
seeing the real, real, beautiful wedding posts. Man. They were amazing.
So how did you guys meet?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah? So we we met in college. Freshman year of college.
You know, we met.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
What were you studying in college?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Audio engineering technology?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Okay, it makes sense, Okay, yeah, yeah so too.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
At the time, you know, I was doing the whole
like mom, like I want to go for music and
that's it. And she's like, well, I'm still your mom.
Let me look out for you, like, let's find a
route where you can go for music, but you'll still
have like an engineering degree. And I was like, all right,
fair enough. So stumbled upon audio engineering technology and I

(33:17):
was like, okay, cool, I'll do that. And I went
to the University of Hartford in Connecticut, and so did she,
and I met her this second day of college. I
was just kind of enthralled. I really loved hanging out
with her, and I guess the feeling must have been mutual.
And I remember going back home that weekend and like

(33:40):
turning to my parents and be like, I think I
found a girl. And they're like, you just got there.
What are you talking about, Like at least enjoy like classes,
like classes haven't really started yet, like stopping, and I'm like, no,
I think I found someone. So then you know, I
get to school. Make a long story short, you know,
we were friends for a little bit and eventually the

(34:02):
friendship turned into a relationship and then we were just
together ever since. It's been. It was nine years on
the twenty fourth of September, and then we got married
July third of this year.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, I remember the photo was like there were
a clean it was great. It looked like a great wedding. Yeah,
it was great. I was happy for you man. I
saw that. I was like, hell yeah, we didn't even
know until you posted. It was like, oh shity got married.
Hell yeah, let's go bro. Yeah yeah no it So
what kind of music does she like? Is she do
the same stuff you are? Or is she like your
mom and your dad like you're you're the rock eye

(34:38):
and she was more into the other.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Stuff too, or yeah, so she didn't dive into music
as much as until like it came around. She definitely
was more so listening to like whatever was out at
the time. And she's originally from New York. I'm originally
from New Hampshire, so like completely different demographics, but we
balance each other out. So I like, I introduced her

(35:01):
to a lot of my you know, rock music. So
I introduced her to the twenty one pilots pierced the
veil day to remember all the time.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
So what was she listening to? You never answer the
question what did she listened to?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah? What was she listening to?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Here we go?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well now it's she definitely listens to
like her pop girly music, but she enjoys her like
Sabrina Carpenter, Demi Levado, who else, who else whatever? Like
pop girly is like really popping at the time.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Did you get into that K pop she had like
Eris is getting into.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
She does enjoy ko avoids it a pop demon Hunters
is definitely an album, or at least that soundtrack is
definitely been played a lot throughout the house, which is
it's good. You know the record, it was amazing, but yeah,
you know she's more into the the pop scene.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So you can blink twice. I've in trouble right now,
It's okay, you know it. They'll keep cards in the background.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
We heard me outside of this like she's like right out.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Right, oh right, So I know, I know though, you know,
totally off topic that you're a big anime fan. Yes,
oh god, dude, have you been watching God? What is
that one? The one where the kid is in the pit?
I can never taste saying it gotcha something I can't remember,
but it is some insane shit going on in this show.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Is it the one where I think it's like it's
the new popular one where like you got finished to
like like.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, the pit basically a benishing of the pit, and
then he came and got stuck in their home and
pulling the jump right now my phone. Yeah this one here, gotcha? Yes,
that one right there? Yes, yeah, that one's crazy. Man.
So let me ask you, though, what is your top
five animes?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You knew it was coming up to. Yeah, this conversation
was coming.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, so my first I gotta go, like my first
introduction to anime, which was dragon Ball or yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I see, I remember that. I thought you though, you're
a big dragon Ball fanshi, I yeah, first whatever saw?
I think my first one personally was Shreigan. I don't
know if you've ever seen. It's really good with the
Stampede's the center character. He basically evolves and you find
out you find out the secret about him. I don't
want to say though, because it kind of gives away
most of it. But it's a very interesting one. It
starts off very heartfelt and then it gets really serious

(37:11):
in the end of it because a lot of different
influence of things.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Mm hmmm, hell yeah yeah no, So yeah, dragon Ball
z speerfectly. You know that one was the one I
grew up on. You know, everyone was super saying right,
you know, everyone was doing their komeh maha and like
you know the class. Yeah, I'm probably gonna have to
go with newer you know stuff. So I think in
all particular order, I'm just gonna go like, yeah, go

(37:34):
for it.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
No.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So I'm really excited for my hero, my hero Academia.
I'm the last season. I'm really excited for that one.
I personally love Shigaraki. He's like my favorite here I
agree after that, Uh, I did recently start Soul Eater and.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That finally watching it, You're gonna love that, trust me.
One of my five fives.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna have to say, although I'm like
twenty episodes deep, I know, I think it's only like
fifty something episodes long.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, it's very it's a very short one though. It's
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Though, it's really good, Like I'm really enjoying it. The
soundtrack is amazing. Like I just posted about it, I
was like, I love the days when they would like
try to localize the soundtrack. I'm a little bit and
like they'd introduce like rock or like R and B.
You know into anime. So like when death the Kid

(38:29):
walks in, you'll hear like an R and B record
and I'm like, that's so fired. After them say only
because I really really enjoy like the action scenes. Solo
Leveling is really good.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Good.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, yeah, that one. We just like I call it
like the pop of anime because it's it's it's like
a pop record, right like, it gets you to the
good stuff right away. Let's just keep playing the chorus
over and over again. They did see.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I felt like that with season two Demon Hunters, like
that two Man the Train and the first two episodes,
and then it just took off and I was like,
oh my god. At first, I was very hesitant to
watch it. I had a young guy keep telling me
about it. He's like, oh, you should watch Demensla, Oh
you shouldat Jens. I'm like, I'm not gonna watch Demens Layer.
I forget that. I'm not watching that crap. And he's like, oh, no, no,
you need to watch this, Oh you need to watch this.

(39:18):
I was like, Okay, I'll watch it. So the first
season for me was kind of slow until it got
to the end. Second season just blew off the doors.
After two episodes. I was one telling him about It's like, bro,
did you see this? He goes through, I've already been
watching what you mean. And then the second half of
that season where they get into the marketplace and they
start doing it, I was like, oh my god, you know.
And then when it's season three came out when into

(39:39):
the Sword Village, I was just like, talk about shit
taking off real quick. It's just like here we go, yes,
you know. But Attack of Titan was like that too though,
but season two it slowed down so bad, Like we
all cringed when watching season two, like, ugh, it took
all this time just rediscover the you think about Aaron's
dad's in the basement type thing, you know going on.
I was like, really, fuck man. But then that one

(40:00):
got better too as it went on as well, you know,
and things like that as well.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I think. And then just to top it off, yeah, Demonslayer,
Like I can't, I can't have the Demon Slayer you know,
Core logo on my hand and not say demon Slayer,
So like right right. I do think that animes recently,
like I do miss longer form animes where it was
like twenty to like thirty episode like seasons, you know,

(40:27):
and there would be even like filler episodes where you're
going on side adventures and stuff like that, Like I
do miss that.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You don't miss the filter stuff, No miss the filler.
If you go through one piece half that filler is like.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That's true, that's true. Okay, on one piece, I'll give
you that. I'll give you that. But they're like certain
side adventures that was just fun. I don't know, but
I think what they realized is like sound realized, Like
there's like they'll do like twelve episode seasons and you
know then like a movie and it's like okay, and
and I think Demon Slayer, I don't want to say
Demon Say was the one that started that, but I

(40:59):
would Demons Slayer definitely popularized that form of release.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Well. In the nineties we had was the Dragon ball Z,
different weird movies like Lord Slug, you know, World's Strongest,
you know, all those other kind of like side adventures
that took you on. And then the ungodfull Dragon Ball
GT came out after you know, the first seasons.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Saying for transformation. That's the one thing not like jeets.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm glad that's the only takeaway you have from that listen,
if they didn't do it until after Super, I think
it would have made more sense timeline wise, because if
you think about it, Pan doesn't show up until the
next season until Super is when she appears as a character.
So now you're bringing this other character into playing now
if you've done it differently, and you know, did that
one and then you could have done Dynamo after that

(41:42):
if you had to, you know. But to me, that's
like where they I think they messed up. They started
doing that and it was like, oh, it's kind of
like you know, it's it just doesn't fit in place. Well,
if you watch it, it doesn't. It's just like no,
because you introduced it way too early. That was the thing.
You introduced her way too early, and you know, and
Pan was the reason why Vegeta didn't go to the
Tournament of Power originally almost you know. And if you

(42:02):
read the books, the books are way differently, like you know,
I love that part of it too, if you go
looking through the books, the books are a little bit
different to what's going on. I'm like, like Yu gi
Oh was a big kids one. But if people really
went and looked at the manga, the manga would tell
you it's a whole different story of like how it goes.
Ugi's actually an evil character in that one. He kind
of does play tricks on people and weird things.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
It's kind of a whole nother perspective to what it
would look like, you know, But I get what they
were doing. They were apeeling the kids because you're trying
to figure out next thing.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Get choking out when it took off at the end
of the day for like Yu gi Oh, they were
trying to show us price. Yeah they still are, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, I definitely remember my.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Magic Gathering came out. Shit, I'm that's old. I am.
I remember Magic the Gathering came out the earlier sets.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
We don't check The Gathering come out in the nineties
and exties.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
When it came out, it started out with the original set,
and you know, one of those cards from that set
are still worked, like half a million dollars at least
raw and if you you know graded, think the last
time when that graded record, I think it was like
three million dollars. One of them sold for Wow. They're
printed actually out of here, out of Dallas. There's a
place out here in Dallas that prints a lot of
them and cuts some and stuff. My dad was working
for him for a while.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
He was the guy that did all the like products
of the packaging design. He was making sure the cards
didn't get damaged because he was like, yeah, did you
know they're sending out these cards? It's like fourteen million
dollars street value. I'm like, yeah, well, right, sounds about right. Man.
They paid shitney And he didn't know all he he
actually met the guy he invented Magic togethering too. They
met up with him and he's like, yeah, they're playing
this game. Like, oh, Dad, you didn't want to play magic?

(43:26):
He goes, I don't got time to learn that game.
I don't know what that is. That's too complex for me.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was like, oh good. I remember
like going to like the comic book stores in like
high school trying to learn it, and like it was
just so cumbersome for me that like I couldn't learn.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
It and guard it was so complex. In the beginning,
my brother used to teach me how to play because
he had had a friend, a friend of us around
the corner from us, a dude you walk in his room.
He had a whole like he had a whole drawer
open of just card stacks in there, of just different things.
It was so interesting because my brother's when that got
me into it, and then I played for a little bit.
The one I really liked was Dragging ball Z card game.
When it came on nice to me and my buddies

(44:02):
used to play all the time, so you know, it
had the main personalities. She get to play these personalities
and all these different cool little moves from the sets,
and then it kind of just kind of went off
and got a little water down later on, yeah to
what it is now now the cards now are really
cool too. I haven't got back into him, but I
was like a really interesting and then you know, Funko
Pops came around for me and I was just like
I fell on that trap. I got a bunch out

(44:24):
in the living room. I actually have a case. I'll
have to show you a picture of it, but I
have almost all the characters signed from the Dragon ball
Z series. Actually, the young voice of Young Gohan actually
lives here in the Dallas Forth area. She actually lives
closer to the Oklahoma borders where I met her at
a convention.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Literally, my favorite voice for Gohan.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, oh yeah, she was real nice too. Man. Let
me tell you, the nicest lady you ever met, dude.
I was fan crushing hard on her and she was
just so nice about it too. She was really cool.
She could tell I was super excited to see her.
Wife when we were dating, had pointed out that, you know,
he look, there's this convention is going on. There's this lady.
You may recognize her. I was like, oh my god,
yes I do. So we went and met her. The

(45:02):
coolest lady ever, dude. She was so cool to me too,
you know, and like she would do the voice for
you if you wanted to pay her shedlet you record
the voice and everything else too. So and then where
I'm at though, the studios out in Frisco, so you
get a lot of different people popping up, like Andreid,
doctor Jo's voice actor showed up a couple of weeks ago,
Chillin's voice actor has been in the area for a bit,
you know, vegeta Goku and all of them are in

(45:23):
the area too a little bit, so they pop up
with a lot of times around the area, so it's
kind of kind of catching. You got to kind of
catch them when you can kind of thing. So it's
kind of cool though.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, no, no, she definitely because Team Gohan's my all
time favorite anime character is just like bar None, specifically
Team Gohan. I know a lot of people wants to
become as an adult just kind of write them off,
and he's making a little bit of a comeback. But yeah, yeah,
the story arc up till that time was like perfectly done.

(45:52):
But then when they came out with Dragon Ball z
Kai and they replaced Gohan's voice actor, I was really
upset to the point which I'm like, I can't watch
this dub.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I didn't watch it at all. I didn't watch I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Because they changed the Hans voice and the intro song.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Listen, Yeah, watching the anime, guys were all gonna admit
the ops or what we're looking for, Like Tower God,
the Crunchy Rolls series, they made such a great intro
that the Stray Kids made the intro for this for
that one the first season, it was just so catchy,
you know, and it was my ring tone on my
phone for the longest time. And then what is it
the new one? That one I showed you earlier, that
one dude that intro just grabs you. And there was

(46:30):
another one too.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I can't think of what it was, but it's just
like has a great intro for the first one to Yeah, yeah,
it's incredibly Yeah, yeah, I watched a bit of it.
It was.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
It was interesting to me. I've watched a lot of
stuff too. I watched I'd like anything RPG kind of related.
Like so Shane Rollt Territory was a good one, you know,
Rising the Shield Hero. I fucking took to that one, like,
you know, but I also grew up with dot Hack though.
You gotta remember I had dot Hack. A lot of guys,
a lot of people didn't get a chance to experience
what that hack was, you know, and it was like
the first like immersive type game, like they were promoting

(47:01):
the people that was like you go into this VR
setting and you're the actual characters, you know, so you're
literally the first person playing out these people. Like it's
like your own virtual D and D session kind of thing.
It's a real great one if you haven't seen it,
it's an older one, but it's really a lot of
interesting stuff. So then it goes into a bunch of
other spinoffs and things like that. For the games like
that too, you know, like Final Fantasy was big for
me as a kid. So I was a big RPG

(47:22):
guy from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Sports wise, I was a big baseball guy. I like
to watch baseball, play baseball, you know football. You know,
I'm a big kan see Chiefs right now. But I
loved watching Bo Jackson as a kid because he was
on the Chicago White Sox and I'm from Chicago, so
I always loved watching everything he does, you know, and
things like that too, and stuff like that. And I
didn't even discover anime until like Helsing. That was like
one of the first ones I first kind of got

(47:43):
an idea of what it was. I was like, what
is this? You know, someone had to introduce it to
me because I'm as old as VCRs, you know, like
we had going these cargoing these little video store type
things in the mall and you start seeing these animis
and You're like, all these covers are so cool. But
you know, I never really explored it until I started
watching Dragon ball Z. You know. But I had Sailor Moon,
I had gun to Wing. I had all these interesting
things too, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, like you you definitely were part of
like the growth process of anime m as it was
starting to come to the West where it was like
still niche. You know.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Now it was very very niche because I was you know,
like pro wrestling was bigger than anime was. And now
it's like you're fighting for control because I love pro
wrestling in the nineties, but also had the big figures,
like like you had Whole Cogan, Macho Man. You get
all these really big stars. Now it's kind of like,
I feel it's kind of watered down. But that's just
because I grew up in the nineties. I got spoiled.
I had all these big, larger than like people, the

(48:38):
Giant Andre the Giant was still big, you know when
I was a kid a.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Lot and say that like like I didn't I'm not
as big into wrestling.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
No, you had to do nineties wrestling. Man, if you
have if you have like the Peacock subscription, you can
go back and watch the older stuff compare it to
what you're watching now. You'll you'll see the difference in it.
I just think the development is the thing I got
away because everything was but everything was just so new
though you got to remember, like the nWo was new,
so we all thought it was cool to be a
part of the nWo, you know, something different or DX

(49:08):
was big when me or me and my brother were kids,
you know, so we all wanted to be different characters
and be part of those, you know, group and everything.
My brother he was like triple H and he's a
younger brother. I was more of you know, the bad,
bad ass billy gun because I was just a goofy
kind of person, you know, and things like that too,
And it was just like you could relate to something
these gays better because they were largely But now it's
kind of like but I mean I get it too.

(49:29):
People like it. It's still it's still popped for a
lot of people. You know, when you get spoiled the nineties, man,
you're you're seeing the World Warriors all these other things
pop up, and it's like now it feels so watered down.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
To me.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
It's like, okay, yeah, even Saturday morning cartoons, bro, that's
all we had. We had Saturday morning cartoons. Shit.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah yeah. No. I remember like rushing home you know,
from like Saturday morning arrands with my parents and stuff
to be like I gotta get what's on TV like
Four Kids was definitely the wave for sure. Like I remember,
like I was big into Ecstatic Shock that was also
playing then as well. Batman Beyond Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Was a really good one too. I was a massive
Batman guy as a kid. Spider Man was always big
for me, all the all the different Marvel X men.
When it was started, the anime series started playing. You know,
it's like you had we were spoiled, but I'm believed Ninja.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Like, like looking back, I will say, like media, I
think reached its its peak around like twenty. I would
say like eleven maybe was like.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
They could think about it. There's not a lot of
cable companies anymore, and that was the big thing. Every
wanted cable. You want a cable for your in HBO.
Now it's all these apps and now we're all we're
a digital age of these things going on because you
can access everything from your phone, YouTube, TV and all
these are things that are built in DVRs.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Hell.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I remember DVR was still big and KBO was you
was your thing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Like I remember asking my grandmother to like tape or
was it t bow whatever, Pokemon because like Pokemon though, Yeah,
I was like, oh, I'm not gonna be back on
the time, like, can you like record it for me?
And then I'd get home and I'd be like, you.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Know, Ninja Turtles is big for me. Man. I grew
up in as a Ninja Turtle fan. I still am
a Ninja Turtles fan.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I was.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I'm collecting the graphic novels. They were making them in
hardback copies. I have to catch up on them though,
but they're making good collections, a bunch of volumes together
in one. And I liked it because the realness of
it beginning, like you couldn't show these things, you couldn't
let little kids read these because you know, Ninja Turtles
are so fun and animated.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Just about to say that, I heard that the Ninja
Turtles series like from a comic book perspective, it's good,
it gets it can actually even get a little dark, Like,
wasn't there like last Ronin series?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That last ron In is phenomenal. Yes, if you've not
checked out, I had on every one of the comic
books of the series of I got all of them,
all the pieces and everything too. It was one of
those things, Like I said, I was a big Ninja
Turtle person. The game is coming out, and I think
they said they're making a movie now too, but I do.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I am enjoying this Ninja Turtle cask and cast animation
that they're doing. Yes. Did they rip the animation straight
from into the Spider Verse. Yes, but you know, if
it works, it works, and it works. Like I I'm
enjoying the direction they're doing with the Ninja Turtles right now.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I don't like to look at the Ninja Turtles. You know,
once again, I'm an eighties guy. So you see original
Ninja Turtles that look like I remember the live action movie,
you know, because you know what you would do. You
always look for those little You always look for those
little things because I did study video for a long
time in high school. That's what we did a video
editing class. And like the what is it the three
men in the little baby scene where you're hands over

(52:35):
and there's that cardboard cutout in the windows. Still everybody
thought it was a dead kid. You know, all the
stories start coming out what it was like Ninja Turtles,
the original movie. I think it is when they're in
April's apartment. If you look at the mouth of Donnie,
you can actually see the person inside the suit a
little bit, yes, in there, you know what I mean,
Like those little things you start to notice after like
Detroit Rock City for one too. For people that don't
really know, is if you watch the scene where the

(52:56):
guys in the pizza after they give the mushroom pizza
to the priest and they get in the car and
the guy's like, oh, give me the last piece of
pizza and he grabs it and it falls sauce that
she's down. No, she's down for sa down first, but
it changes up though, and you like, you know, these
are the things we used to do all the time.
We check them and stuff, so you know, it was
it was interesting to see because you're always looking for
that kind of stuff. Now it's like, you know, you

(53:17):
don't get to see those kind of things anymore because
everybody's too busy looking at the flashing lights and everything else.
But you know, those are the things we used to
do though. But yeah, to me, the Ninja Turtles are
the eighties and Turtles. I'm sorry, man, don't not to
tell you there, but.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, I hey, I'm not the biggest Ninja Turtles fan,
but I I don't know, I'm enjoying.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
The well, I mean, it's good you're enjoying it, though.
I mean, I'm glad they're doing justice to it because
it was such a big thing for us as kids,
you know, Yeah, and you know of the birthday all
due the flooded market of just shit, they had all
the toys and everything. To see some of my childhood
toys and how much they're worth these days, it's fucking insane.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, it's crazy, Like you know how much it's been
paid wonder Like I wish when I was like five,
I wasn't trying to play with it, and I just
like kept it pristine because I could be rich right now,
Like does every.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
You know what I'm saying, Like did I'd be a millionaire?
Trust me, yes, and I'd be I would be a millionaire.
I'm not gonna lie to you, dude. I had almost
every the original set of Turtles, I had Shredder. I
had a friend he had the Technodrome and stuff like
that too, And it was the same thing with the
power Rangers. My neighbor's mom would coordinate with my mom
and get the different stuff, so when we hung out,
we didn't all have the same stuff, so we could
combine all the zords and stuff together, so he get

(54:23):
all the flashier ones and me and my brother would
get the other ones and then we go over and
play with him and then we have them all combined
together and things, you know. So it was very creative
the way they'd market stuff like that. Yeah, you know,
because like all the the ability to have everybody come
together and play together, because you know, now it's you know,
will you had Sega Genesis then too, you know. That's
when I first introduction in the video games was was
like Sega Genesis. And then when I remember we got

(54:44):
a PlayStation, that's it, man, Take take it to the cleaners, baby,
take you to the cleaners. Final Fantasy seven and took Off,
you know, and things like that too. But I used
to play Sega Genesis all the time. NHL ninety four
was a big one for me because I was a
big Philadelphia Flyers fan, was a kid. I love watching
air linder Us and my brother was a Red Wings fan,
so already had rivally going there. Not to mention similar Rivally,

(55:05):
we were just going at it all time, watching them
play and things like that too, so you know, it's
it's great and everything that. So we're at the portrait
of the show. We're probably a little over, but it's fine.
We're gonna go. I'm gonna ask you two important questions. Okay,
So my first one, you note, is if your mental
health had a song, what would that song be?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
That is a really good question.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It is, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I hate to go to what my song.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
There's no judgment here of whatever your song is, So
it is.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I was gonna say, like, I know, I alluded to
it a little bit of Go Yeah twenty one Pilot's
Car Radio. I think that would be the best representation
because one of the biggest lyrics, or most notable lyrics
in that entire song that almost became like a saying
for the fans that you follow them is sometimes quiet

(55:59):
as violent and as somebody who's a chronic overthinker that
can't not sit in silence because my brain will just
go and go and go and go and go and go.
I relate to that very much, so that something as
small as the car radio being taken away from me
could place me on a path that, like, my brain

(56:21):
just can go to places that probably shouldn't, you know,
So I would say, yeah, pilots car radio.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Definitely. Okay. So the second question, and the reason this
podcast exists, is if you could break the stigma about
mental health imb talking about anything you see that sometimes
just drives you absolutely crazy, what would it.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Be that mental health is something that is just fixed.
I think the stigma oftentimes is like, okay, like you
go to therapy or you're given medication and you're just fixed,
you know, when that's not the reality. It's not a

(57:00):
broken bone that you know will break and they put
a cast on and it just heals, you know, and
sure you'll feel the aches and pains every now and
then for the most part, like everything's back to normal.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Mental health is a constant battle. It's something that you
can have a good couple of days and then a
bad couple weeks, or you could have a good couple
years and then one really bad you know year. It's
something that ebbs and flows, you know. I just wish
people could understand that. Give the people around them grace

(57:36):
about that, and most importantly, if you're going through it,
give yourself grace about that. If you are having a
bad moment right now, it's okay, give yourself patience and
time that you deserve. So that's that's what I would say.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I absolutely love it, man, all right, And with that
being said, guys're gonna wrap up this episode of Pete
for Anxiety note, thank you so much for coming man.
We are definitely going to be talking a little more often, man,
I guarantee you what we already do now anyways, but
you know, obviously more now. But where can everybody find you?
Where do you want to send them that they can
come check you out? You first, TikTok, Instagram? What's what's
your favorite favorite social media for them to come check

(58:12):
you out? Obviously Spotify all the way down to iHeartRadio.
He's everywhere everywhere. Uh No, seriously though, everywhere.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
If you want to find me, if you search my
name uh k n o WTE on Google, I'm one
of the first things that pop up, which is really helpful.
All my social media is no underscore worthy k n
o wt E underscore worthy. I'm unsure when this episode

(58:42):
will drop, but more than likely by that time, I
would have announced that I have a new song coming
out on Halloween. It's my big song of the year,
one last time. So if you enjoyed some of what
we talked about here said some headbang and some you know,
just real good energy. You're gonna I want to look
out for that record and pre save it once I

(59:02):
post all about it, so I hope you.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Can definitely, Man, I appreciate it. Thank you so much
for being here. Man. I appreciate reaching out and being
on the show and everything else to you. Man, it's
been great having you. And you know, man, we'll have
you come back again and we'll do some something else
or maybe you know, we'll figure out something. We'll figure
out some reason to come back and just talk about something.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
No. I would love to. This is awesome.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Thank you for having Thank you so today. Listen, man,
You're always welcome here guy, guys, and we're gonna wrap
up this episode of Pete for Anxiety. You know what
to find me. I'm Pete for Sonxiety. I'm an X
all the way down to TikTok, I'm on Spotify. I'll
be down to iHeartRadio and Pandora Radio now too. And
as always say, it costs nothing, absolutely not to be
kind of somebody. One kind act you can do to
save same life or hell, you can make their day.
I'm Pete for so anxiety, signing out, saying, don't ask
you your day is today, Say hey, how's your mental

(59:43):
health today?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
My secret in my word they