Transforming Health: From Traditional Medicine to Alternative Modalities

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hello, Welcome to an exciting upside of Peak for its Anxiety.
My guest today is a transformational catalyst in the realm
of personal health and well being with a unique blend
of expertise and certified e f T practitioner and a
special hacking reality. Please don't come in the one the
only Sophia Toarini. How are you doing, Sophia.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm doing great, and thank you for having me on
your podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, thank you so much for being here, Sophia. Do
you want to tell everybody a little bit more about yourself?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Absolutely? So. I started in medicine, so I have an
MPH in epidemiology, which is a master's in epidemiology, And
just like everybody else, had challenges, you know, climbed the
corporate ladder. To find out that I ended up with

(01:08):
a lot of health challenges that weren't getting resolved, and
they dragged out for a long time, and I almost
lost my life to them. And when I realized the
medical model that I trusted so much, because that's all
I knew, when I had worked for very very big

(01:28):
names and good doctors, I realized its limitation. Not that
it doesn't have a place in society, It does for
certain things, but for chronic conditions or emotional dysregulation, it's
not so well suited or comprehensive, let's put it that way.

(01:51):
So I ended up researching alternative modalities. And I had
tried pretty much everything emd are, psychic hypnosis, and not
one session each, about thirty each of each. So I

(02:11):
ended up with some of doctor Dispens's teachings, which are
neuroscience based, but there was a component missing. He says,
you need to master your emotions, and I was drowning
there and that's where EFT came. And so I'll explain
what EFT is. It's an energy modality, a combination between

(02:34):
clinical psychotherapy and tapping on the bodies meridian, so acupuncture
without needles and by physically tapping and expressing yourself or whatever.
The limiting belief or emotion is the energy that got
blocked or was not felt. Moves and that releases the energy.

(02:58):
And I want to explain something that people tend to
not really put a lot of emphasis. So they say
they think out of mind, out of sight, or if
I don't think about it, it's not there. Well, we
actually know the contrary. Now we know that the Olympic
brain produces chemistry, and it doesn't matter if the event

(03:20):
happened when you were five, as long as the emotion
was not processed, that chemistry was not transmuted. It actually
stays in the body because that information, that emotion had
information for you, for you to process and know, and
it stays there. And if you accumulate one after another,

(03:43):
now the body is going to have challenges. If that
makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
There, yep, oh, yeah, it makes perfect sense. Yeah, definitely.
I think it's interesting though that you went from traditional
medicine to where you're now. I mean a lot of people,
I beat that's what happens, like even with therapists. They
go from traditional therapy and then they go to the
other roots and everything like that too and discover that
some of these alternatives are way better and better suit

(04:09):
it for more people, you know. And you've got euroscience
back in fact on that one though, so you know
it's even better because you're at a deeper level now too,
because you know all the work that you reference his
work a lot too, and things like that as well.
So when did you discover him first? Though?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I started into I had read after Joe Despenza when
night around two thousand and eight or something, and I
discarded it because I said, this just can't work. And
then I literally, after sixteen years of being sick, I
hit a rock bottom again and someone suggested to reread

(04:45):
the books. And it was just a lecture I had heard,
or a podcast or whatever it was. Yeah, and now
I started reading and I did all four of them
in sequence, and it actually made sense from a scientific
point of view. And I always had this belief, having
worked in medicine and having assisted in some surgeries or

(05:07):
being I always had this belief that the body can heal.
And he gave me the missing pieces, and I think
that was a very very good starting point. And the
other part that he addresses, you can't take someone as
a part, so the person as a whole. So it's

(05:29):
mind body spirit. Then there's a reason why it's mind
body spirit because we have three brains. So you have
the new cortex, you have the olympic brain, which is
the emotional brain, and the cerebellum. You cannot separate them.
Those brains need to work in unison. And I also
had started in medicine when I was young, where you

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only had internal medicine before they got specialized, and I
used to do a lot of temp and I remember
that those physicians were way much better, even though their
knowledge was different than the one who specializes, because they
could see how this can affect that, and how this
condition can cause this. And so the moment you start

(06:15):
breaking it down to over specialization, you're losing the person
and you're losing what could happen there. You know they're
treating this and you have you know your arm, and
you have fifteen side effects, and that that I always remembered.
So this was a good way for me to see
that we're treating the person as a whole and the
person has their own unique story. The question is not

(06:39):
to get stuck in the story and how to get
out of that story and what can we offer you
to help you get to a better place where the
body starts healing on its own, so under the right condition,
the body can reverse conditions.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, now that's true. That's true. So let me ask
you this, though, why do you think people get stuck
in their own ways? So some maytimes it's just because
a lot of is information out there or just the
things that they've always been told.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
There's a lot of programming, but so a lot of
people focus on limiting beliefs, and that is a true component,
But emotions is what's hold limiting beliefs, and if you
go try solving it with your mind, you're going to
take more than one lifetime to clear it. So it's
faster and easier to address the emotion, and then you

(07:31):
can get rid of the limiting beliefs because they can say, Okay, no,
I don't want to believe this, but then they have
this not in their stomach or this overwhelming fear and
they can't get past it. So it's really the emotion
and traumatic memories. It's not so much the memory, it's
the emotion that that memory produced. And let's address anxiety.

(07:55):
Since your podcast is anxiety. Okay, so there's now that
indicates that the symptom or the the incident of anxiety
starts an hour before the person has a panic attack.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, I get contest that.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, So the question is, you know, what can we
do to start picking up the signals so that doesn't happen.
And we've disconnected so much from the body, and it's
society has trained us that way. Even for me, it
wasn't easy to reconnect. And I have still my moments
that we're not getting the signals. So the body is

(08:34):
giving you a GPS signal of what needs to be done.
So going back, why there's a disconnect Number one because
we haven't been given proper tools all the modalities we
had in the past, Like psychotherapy is mental. So what
wires together fires together. So if you keep on repeating
that story, this is what happened to me, and this

(08:56):
is what happened to me, and this is what happened
to me, you're going to stay to this is what
happened to me. There's no room for anything else. And
if you can keep on saying, well, it's because of
this person and this person, then this person you're not
transmuting the emotion. I'm not saying it's not because of
this person, but it happened. How do we get past it?

(09:19):
And when you release the emotion now you get energy
back to heal.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. No, I could agree to the getting stuck in
an endless loop kind of thing too, because I think
the hardest thing I deal with now is the forgiveness
of my mom abandon me when it's ten. She's just
like it to me. It's just like that that You're right,
it's not the fact that it happened, is the fact
I go back to that emotion sometimes, like when I
get real upset or I feel like in that moment
where somebody's gonna leave, I jump back to it. I

(09:45):
don't visualize it, but I know the feeling because my
body remembers when it happened, you know, and I get
stuck at that hump, or I just can't get over it,
which I've been working on and slowly I'm getting over it.
But that was my biggest roadblock was just like I
get stuck there and I can't get over this wall,
and it's like the wall just continues going, and it's
like this wall that just won't stop ending, and it's like,
why can't I get over this one moment? You know?

(10:08):
But I like, you know, and it happens. Though when
you get upset, I'm like, I jump back to that moment.
I feel that sense of that same feeling of like,
oh God, they're gonna leave me. I might as well
tell them to leave before they leave me kind of thing,
you know. So I get on the defense of really quick,
you know, which I'm getting better with but I mean,
it's it's one of those things. I can contest it
all that I get stuck in that endless loop of
just like so I've been working on trying to get

(10:29):
past you because I'm tired of it just coming back
to haunt me almost because it's like, all right, it's
already been over with. It's been God, I'm forty years
old now, so it's been thirty years, you know, like
it's time to get over this and stop making excuses
for it. So but I mean, I get that though,
I understand that completely.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well that's an excellent example. And I've had lots of
those memories and what I found is somatic modalities. So
there's two levels on forgiveness. Someone says, you know, I
can forgive mentally, but the body is not forgiving. I
just recently worked with someone who was physically assaulted. She

(11:14):
can now replay the memory forwards and backwards with no
emotional charge, and now she's able to forgive. Originally she
mentally wanted to forgive, and she said she had, but
every time she got triggered. All you need is an
emotion and an image of stimulus and a response, and
you're back feeling it. We use some IFT techniques and

(11:38):
a little bit of you know, the movie technique in
the EFT and some NLP technique and eventually now she
can play it forward and backwards and there's no emotional charge.
When there's no emotional charge to the event, you can
pretty much move forward. Doesn't mean that it doesn't exist,
but you got something and you're able to let it go. Well.

(12:00):
The other thing we can do for those traumatic memories
is after you release the emotion, that's where hacking reality
comes in, is to reframe them. So let's assume your
parents left you, but you did stand on your own
two feet and you became what you are pretty successful, okay,

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So what's playing is the memory when you were let's
say they left you have five the abandonment, and that
keeps on replaying and you can't even enjoy your successes
because it was always forceful and it was always whatever
it was. Once you release that abandonment abandonment and you

(12:40):
realize you're a giving love in person and you've become successful,
now you can reframe it and you can feel better.
Oh my goodness, I had such a rough upbringing and
I did stuff. A perfect example is Wayne Dyer, who
grew up in orphanages. Wayne Diary is famous about talking
this story his mother put me and put him from

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one orphanage to another and picked him up later. He
could have said I was victimized, and he was for
a while till he worked on himself and then he
finally became the person who he was, and he talks
about he had a hard time forgiving his father for
years and then eventually he forgave him and he had

(13:25):
a big release of energy and could let go of
that story.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah. No, I feel that that's that's my end goal
because I know she wants a relationship now and it's
gotten easier. I mean, I'll be honest, like ever since
starting this podcast, I've been going through my own journey
and things like learning different things as they go, and
it just kind of like it gets easier to talk about, like,
you know, just to bring it up, tell people about it.
You know, I don't get so emotional like I used to,
like I get so irritated down It's just like, okay,

(13:52):
well I can bring it up and it doesn't sert
that feeling of emotion where I just want to get mad,
be no reason, you know, and I mean, I made
a phone call till recently and it wasn't that hard.
Like before. It was just like you're calling on the phone,
You're just sweating bullets over there, like you're in an
interrogation and you're like, Oh, how's this conversation going to go?
I can't. I don't know it's gonna be. I mean,
now it's just like fuck it. I'm like whatever. You know,

(14:14):
I'm gonna get over it eventually, And you know, like
I said, I'm getting over that hump because I know
the forgiveness won't come from her side, you know, and
I know I already know that she's the type person
she is, and I've already accepted that part of it.
It's now just getting myself over it, which I'm working
on it each day, you know, and it's getting easier
and easy and easier, you know, since I started doing
this whole thing, you know, and it's it's been a

(14:36):
fun ride though. I mean, I've done over like, god,
I don't even know, two hundred plus episodes in the
first year. And I've talked about this subject a lot
of times with different people, and everybody's adding new things
to learn. So let's talk about ef T though. Okay,
so I know a lot of people know what the
traditional ef T is, but what is the difference versus
clinical Like, do you want to give them a little
little different so they know what you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, there's a couple of things. So a lot of
people people just go on and take an online course
and they claim they're an EFTY practitioner or they just
do tapping scripts. Okay, So a clinically if T is
evidence based in EFT, and you know, whoever is CLINICALLYFT
pretty much has to go through a certification process and

(15:23):
maintain their credentialing by continuous learning and getting mentoring. But
the bottom line, it's evidence based techniques that we know
actually work, and there are a lot of clinical trials.
And it's not exactly the same as tapping on a script. Yeah,

(15:44):
in an emergency, you can tap on some video in
the script. The key here is to find the words
for you because it was your story, your event. And
the other part is whatever's happened in the now is
a reflection of happened when you grew up from first

(16:06):
trimester to about seven years old. I stretch it to thirteen.
So we start with the now, But really what's we're
playing is those old memories. Those are the memories that
need to be cleared instead of you know, what's happening
on my day to day life. My day to day
life is a repeat of what was programmed for me,

(16:30):
and a lot of people focus on the now and
they don't get there. The other thing that we do
as CLINICALLYFT practitioners, we train the individual to tap in
between the sessions and to know how to fully tap
by themselves, not on traumatic memories, because you need someone
else for traumatic memories, but for every other thing you
want without being dependent on the video script or on

(16:54):
the script. And it's more empowering that you can sit
for fifteen minutes and clear that fear or clear that
migraine because it's excellent for physical pain as well. So
that's really much the difference between what's been commercialized and
that's what the founder who's still alive. It's Gary Craig,

(17:17):
and he healed himself from a stroke. He's close to
his eighties. I think I sometimes join his classes and
he's still active and he completely healed himself from paralysis.
So it's pretty amazing. He had a stroke and he
was paralyzed, and he used what he gave to the
world for free. He actually gave it to the world

(17:38):
for free. Now it's been you know, a whole rigorous process.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, you know, it's not the
first time I've heard the story like that too. We
had one guy come on, Larry Bolts. He was talking
about how he was fully parase too. I think it
was a hard attack as well, if I remember Larry's
exact story, but he was he said it started with like,
you know, just the power of will, just human will
for him to get out of it, you know, and
he was like he's focused on his finger start moving,

(18:05):
and then his whole hands started moving and his arms
started moving. So like Gary's story really is not shocking
to me in any way possible since I, like I said,
I've been sitting in the seat taking talking to people
about their stories, Like you know, it's it's pure, truly
amazing because what he did and how he overcame eery thing,
you know, you know, you know we have all these
people claiming, you know, just because you have a stroke

(18:25):
beause then lb all and you know, all this mentality
of people like the minute you're told something, it's like
they treat you differently, Like you know, hey, you're a
suicide survivor. Now people treat you differently. Oh well, you
gotta be careful. This guy's great. It's not that. It's
just like, I don't get why we have to make people,
you know, out to be to be so negative in
a society, just like, oh, well, you're never gonna walk again.
There's people I've always said, heard that story and they're

(18:49):
they're walking now, you know what I mean. It's just
like I don't I don't get it. It just doesn't
make any sense. And then the whole thing of you know,
traditional therapy, they treat everything with medication, and now everybody's
so scared. It's there because they're like, oh well, you know,
I don't want to get medicated. But I'm like, it's
not like that, guys, It's really not. But I personally
like the alternative space. I've been I've been exploring it
little by little in the podcast as i've been doing this,

(19:12):
you know, an energy healing came up as one of them,
and I'm just really interested because I found out myself
that I'm I'm very sensitive energy, which made sense because
I could never explain this feeling I always had on
was around people, Like I got this sense of like
I didn't like somebody, or I could tell I didn't
feel I could feel their energy and like, you know,
and it's it's like it was an interesting feeling at first,

(19:32):
and it was almost like, you know, you couldn't explain
what it was. And I was like I could feel
the presence of other things around me too, and it's like,
you know, you're like you're walking down the hallway by
yourself mostly like you're like you think you're hearing things back,
and you know, things like that. I just couldn't explain,
you know. And as I started going, I started exploring
these areas, I found out that very what is it,
I'm a ver insensitive and then I'm also a big EmPATH

(19:55):
as well, so I could feel a lot of people's emotions,
Like I could read the emotion across the room. Like
most people, I can tell if you're having a bad
day just based on either something you say to me
or just like this and things I'm just noticing, Like
I'm watched constantly watching to see what people are doing,
and I can always read the emotions in the room.
If somebody something's bothering somebody, I'll go ask them listen,
hey you okay or whatever else and they're like yeah,

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you know. They'll away say yeah, and it's like, mmm,
now you're not You're lying to me. Can sense it
like like a dog, like a drug sniffing dog. You're like, yeah,
I don't think so think something's up there. We're gonna
find out for me though. But also I explored the
astrological side of things too, because I'm really big in astrology. God,
I love it so much. It's so interesting. I did
an episode where I had my birch chart read. It

(20:38):
turns out that I have the ability if something in
my chart says that I have this uncanny thing where
people come up to me Sophia and they just share
the most random facts of me, like like to just
start going bord vomit. And like one guy i'd met
I hadn't seen in a while, he had told me
the story about his friend who eventually lost the gun violence.
He had told me the story. When he came in,

(20:58):
he was very upset. I say, hey, what's wrong, Oh man,
you seem like something. He's like, you really want to
know him like, yeah, man, what's up? Talk to me?
And he told me and I was like, holy crap,
he saw me again. He goes, well, I didn't want
to come talk to you because I know I was
going to tell you these things. And he was just
telling me a situation he was in now. But it's
not like it's been unusual to me. Like it's like
it's happened several times. Like people just tell me those
weird random facts and I'm just like, okay, Like what,

(21:22):
Like I've had a guy tell me he was dead
for five minutes or no, fifteen minutes on the table.
They said he was dead and he came back to life.
And I was just like, oh, that's interesting. So why
I'm thinking, why are you telling me, dude? So, I mean,
it's really nothing to it, you know, anything weird to
me these days and things like that. So I love
what Gary was doing. So I did want to ask

(21:43):
you though about reality hacking. I know you mentioned it earlier,
So did you want to clarify that for some people?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
So reality hacking, so memories are stored between neurons, so
and if it's a traumatic memory, it's stored in the hippocampus.
And it usually replaced constantly without your awareness. So a
traumatic memory usually replays, which is why we often have phobias, fears,

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or limiting beliefs, or we wake up exhausted in the morning. Okay,
because just like a cell phone, you turn it off
overnight and then you open it the next day and
the battery is drained to find out you had ten apps.
The body is the same way. So these memories are
replaying in the hippocampus. Once you release the emotional charge,

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they go to the neocortex and they just get categorized
and at least they're not taking up energy. But when
you clear that memory or that traumatic memory, you actually
what you're doing is you're moving to a parallel timeline.
So you know, some people are of this belief, and

(22:57):
I am of this belief. I have enough evidence from
personal experience that we're living in a simulation. So each
version of you, there is a version of you that
is whole or whatever it is that you believed. Because
I was very ill on meds, so by clearing these memories,

(23:20):
I moved to a parallel timeline where I don't take
any meds, which I don't I have not take a
prescription drug including psychiatric drugs since twenty twenty one, because
I was on tons of stuff. So that's what it does.
So when you clear the memory and you rewrite the memory,
you actually now reimprint in your memory. So that's what

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the hacking reality is. You've cleared the original one and
in place of that one, you create and you wire
a new memory, and that makes you move to a
parallel timeline. And that's pretty much what's happening. So that's
why it's called hacking reality because you're actually chaining your
original timeline.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
So I had a question, though, how did you How
did you discover the parallel timelines? Because when you start
learning how to hack reality, is that how you discovered that?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Uh, Doctor Joe at the time was making small references
about it, and there was something called matrix reimprinting. So
I got trained from one of those trainers that created
hacking reality who talks about the morphic fields, and that's
basically how I discovered it. And then I've seen it

(24:31):
in my experience. There's a certain trajectory and something is
cleared and then the next day is as if it
never happened. I've had these weird experiences. I don't know
how to explain it. And I had some stuff also that
couldn't have possibly happened with things about things in the past.

(24:53):
It's as if they got rewritten. So it's only when
there's when the when the memory or the situation and
the belief is completely cleared, it does not happen if
there's still an emotional charge to it.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah. Yeah, so that I'm so fascinating. I really am
so fascinated by that. That's so cool though, So let
me ask you all this though, for people at home,
do you have any advice for them if they're if
they're thinking about getting into this kind of thing or
stuff like that, what what should they anything they should
watch out for, like you know, because you say there's
a lot of videos out there that people can watch,

(25:28):
but you know those are those are just yeah, they're
just videos.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's a great start. If they're having problems, if they're
having anxiety and insomnia, if they're always angry, if they're
always fearful, that's a sign that something's happening. Or you
have a health condition like mine that they told me
was incurable. I'm you know, I'm headed to my grave. Well,
it didn't happen. So if you have something like that,

(25:54):
the best thing you can do is explore if something
else works for you. Do it as an experiment. That's
how I did it, and see if it works, and
you're going to be surprised that if you really commit
to it, you're going to get a benefit. There is
no downside to ef T, none whatsoever, or hacking reality.
You have more to gain then there's nothing to lose.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, that's that's the same thing I was going to
say too. I think you have a really great point there.
Would you suggest any doctor Joe worked to them to
check out too, in case they're interested in learning more,
you know, any books you want to reference for them.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Absolutely. First of all, I teach one of his courses. Awesome, Yeah,
change your mind, create your results. This is the course
that he used to teach, and it's been taught to
big corporations Coca Cola, Google, Heinegin and what now we
teach it individually to people. We've taught it to Vietnam
vets and prisoners who have had dramatic, dramatic changes I

(26:52):
happen to have. If anybody's interested. Two seats for the
twenty six it's a four day training, so they're welcome
to go to my website tap into your best self
dot com to explore that. I offer a free masterclass
for seventy five minutes to get an introduction, and I
teach some of the models nothing to pay, they have

(27:14):
nothing to lose. It's absolutely free. And I also offer
a thirty minute complementary session if they want to explore
EFT and I also do German New medicine metaconsciousness. It's
the same thing where we find the biological program of disease.
So I'll give an example. So most people think pneumonia

(27:39):
or difficulty and the difficulty of breathing is just a
bacterial infection. Actually pneumonia is a biological tract fear of
life and feeling powerless. So once you heal that biological trigger,
you heal the condition. Digestive issues, depending what it is,
it's something you can ant to digest. So there's something replaying,

(28:05):
urinary track issues can't urinate, it's you can't mark your territory.
There's a lot of fear going on, and it's a
very very helpful modality to find because a lot of
people are unconscious to find what it is that it's
causing this. So yes, I have lots of resources, and

(28:25):
lots of them are free, and I write a blog
and I'd be happy to help anybody I have the
opportunity to do that, because it was the second person,
because I had discredited all this stuff when this woman
had healed through these modalities, and she says, I did,
so why don't you just give it another try and
read these books again? And then I ended up with

(28:47):
theft and that was the turning point.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
For me speaking about it. How do you incorporate that
into you like your practice?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now? So I wake up in the morning and I
tap first thing in the morning, because a lot of time,
well actually before I get out of bed, I set
my intention for the day while my brain waves are
in alpha brain waves. Then I get up, and of
course the thoughts start creeping in when I'm overwhelmed or

(29:16):
what I have to do or whatever. So I clear
those out and then I set my intention what I
want to clear in meditation, and then I go and meditate,
and if things creep up during the day, I will
tap again or I will try and lean into the emotion. Eventually,

(29:36):
once you become very good at it. You just go
into the emotion and you observe it and breathe in it.
So a practice that anybody can do. Now when they
get the tightness in their chest. Let's say they're panic
driven and they just look around and they're in their room,
so nothing physically is causing them panic in this moment,

(29:58):
but for whatever reason they're feeling panic. First thing is
they can orient themselves slow down their breathing. Why because
when you slow down your breathing, you activate the parasympathetic
But the slow down breathing has to go down to
the abdomen, not the chest, So a lot of people
emit the abdominal part. So you put it and then

(30:22):
now you sit with the knot just for tune, thirty
seconds or sixty seconds, however long, just to observe it.
If you just observe it over a period of time,
if you keep on doing that, the energy is starting
to going to get released. But the first thing we
do is when we have the panic attack or the fear,

(30:44):
we contract the story's going to the mind, and then
we breathe very fast and shallow. That's what puts you
now on the hamster real trajectory. And most people. People
want to think that anxiety is a specific feeling. Actually
it's a combination of feelings of taking your past and

(31:08):
projecting it to the future based on past experiences. So
it's an overload in the system of old emotions and
the amygdala has been activated. So all these modalities you
can do it. Or the other thing is just keep
on tapping on your chest or some point in the body.
Why because if there was a tiger here, you wouldn't

(31:31):
be tapping. So it's giving the body a signal, Okay,
I am having this panic attack or I am having
this fear, but there's no nothing in this room. If
that makes any.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Sense, Oh, it makes perfect sense to me. I'm telling
you now you're explaining it to people exactly how it
feels to me. It's like, you know, a lot of
times there's anxiety thoughts that come to my head or
just something from the past that are coming back, and
then now it's mixing with my reality of now you know,
and and I get it. I love the analogy of
the tiger being in the room because it's like you
get into that when you get into that state of panic,

(32:05):
when you start panicking. Man, it's like something's there scaring
the hell out of you, you know, or I like
to think it off. It's like the movie Aliens. You know,
that alien comes down right ext their heads right there
kind of think oh yeah, dude, and it's like, you know,
however you want to put it's the same exact thing,
the tiger, the alien, whatever it is, that sense of fear. Man,
you start getting that, like heart starts racing and things
like that. Normally I can tell if it's getting close

(32:27):
to that point, and I've learned things to do to
kind of just relax, you know. I go and like,
I know, it sounds weird. Where I work, I go
into a freezer. I take deep wreats, you know. The
cold air recenters me. So I do a lot of
breath work too, so that tends to help a lot
of times as well, you know. And I go in
there and people are just like, what are you doing? Nothing.
I don't tell people what I'm doing because if they
explain it to most people, they just look at me
like I'm nuts, Like okay, whatever, you know, because I

(32:50):
know it works for me. That's what matters. What matters
to me is what works for me. I don't care
what people's opinion is, you know, like I share some
stuff with people and that other times I don't. Like
if I really go into a panic attack. I've had
it happened for is at work and people are like,
they're like, oh, just calm down, just calm I just like,
I hate it when people say that, oh, just calm down. Yeah, yeah,
it's easier said than done, Like, you don't understand the

(33:10):
state of mind I'm in. You know, my brain's racing,
my heart's racing, everything's going in a thousand miles an hour.
The proverbial tiger is in the area with me, and
I'm freaking the hell out and you're coming to be like, oh, well,
you just need to you just need to calm down. No,
it doesn't work like that. Stop telling people that. But
I love what you're doing though, I love it, I
really do.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well. I want to pick on on what you said.
First of all, breath work is excellent. And let's put
it again contextually. So anxiety is a survival glitch, right.
It activates the alarm system and the body as if
there's a fire going to happen, because you're using your
past to project into the future. So the person comes

(33:49):
to you. So when you are in the anxiety state,
there's a couple of things that has happened. Sympathetic has
been activated. But your brain waves are and high beta.
That is very important. It's three times normal than the
average brainwaves. That's first of all. So when the person
comes to you and says just rethink, just calm down,

(34:14):
no information can come in through your brain stem that
does not equal to your current emotional state. So someone
telling you to be calm when you're having anxiety is
not going to work. It doesn't matter. They can turn
blue in the face telling you that it's not going
to happen because it can't pass the brain step. Neurologically,

(34:34):
we know that, which is why affirmations don't work. You know,
you say I'm wealthy and wealthy and wealthy, and the
brain thinks, well, no, you're not. Your bank account is empty,
you're broke, you broke, you're broke, And then what happens
is you get more discouraged. So that's first step number two.
But when you start changing your breathing and especially in

(34:56):
the abdomen, then the brain waves slowly start dropping. It's
the brain waves that start dropping that are going to
activate the parasympathetic nervous system. So all these modalities that
we have, whether it's breathwork, tapping, or somatic observation, is

(35:20):
because their goal is to go back inside of the
body or change the brain waves. So now we're not
in the alarm system. The alarm system is turned off,
and now you can address the emotion. So no one
says to you, oh, well, and you're having a panic attack,
Just observe I told you. First, start breathing, slow down

(35:44):
your brain waves so we can stop the overthinking brain.
Or the other thing you can do is go to
your heart and create what they teach brain and heart coherence.
That again slows down your brain waves. So all of
these modalities, even the act of tapping like this eventually
slows down your brainwave. So the key here is to
change our brain waves, come into a little bit more

(36:08):
relaxed state, to observe it. Yeah, that's basically what we're doing.
And when you're in survival, there is no room for possibility.
Look at dressed though, what's happening unfortunately to people, So
right now, social media has gotten out of control, The
news has gotten out of control. So someone consuming every

(36:33):
day and scrolling and especially first thing in the morning
and at the end of the day, all you're doing
is your programming yourself for more fear, more anger, more resentment,
and more judgment. Because in the evening and in the morning,
your brainwaves are alpha and eventually you're going to go
to theta and then if it's in the evening delta,

(36:55):
you're going to go to sleep in the morning. It's
the reverse order you got from delta to theta to
alpha and alpha and theata brainwaves is what hypnotists use
for hypnosis. So you're automatically getting hypnotized by just watching
the news and scrolling on social media. Now when you

(37:17):
use confusion, because you can't use your analytical mind, now
you're getting programmed again. It's it's a great technique for
pharmaceutical odds. They're very clear creating a confusion. Oh, this
is going to work for you. It's the best thing
you can take. It's going to give you this wonderful life.
But if you're X, Y, and Z, it's going to

(37:39):
create and then you're thinking, Okay, I thought this is
going to do do me well, but now I'm going
to get the risk of suicide.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Now you're confused the little ear that gives roll low
the essay subside effects including just start going out the
side effects, and you're like, what the hell, wait a minute,
it is supposed to fix my problem. Oh to hear voices,
there's supposed to be there. I'm like, wait, is this
an anti psychotic? And I suppose, like, wait a minute,
I'm a little confused here for a minute. Now you
just told me you're going to fix my problem and
then add more problems. What the hell is going on here?

(38:08):
This is so weird.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, it's a perfect tactic. When you enter confusion, the
analytical mind loses its capacity momentarily, and now that thing
gets programmed. And so if they have contrasting good images
or good emotions with negative a lot of times they
do a colorful and then black and white. Yeah, now

(38:30):
you're just getting programmed.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And there are a lot a lot of Hitten messages too,
And there are a lot of times too, you know, I
remember that I did look into that for a while too,
where they were talking about uh, you know, they hitten
messages between ithind a lot of things they had that
like subconscious thing they trigger you with. But all the
flashing colors that keep you distracted, so you don't realize
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
So yeah, and we have movies for predictive programming. The
conditions they make with the name so complicated. They never
give you a clear answer how the condition happened. It
starts with this, then it turns to this, but then
it's back to this, and then it's something else. So
it's sad, but this is what our reality is. The

(39:11):
key is once you know that, you can protect yourself
because thirty or sixty years ago, I'm not saying anxiety
did not exist, but not to this extreme. All these
other conditions, attention deficit disorder a PTSD. It's like over
the roof, dementia is over the roof.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well whatever PTC used to be called shell shocked for
the longest time. Then they said it was only the
military that could get it. It wasn't a condition for
anybody else. And then eventually it changed. The narrative changed
a little bit there too. Oh, now now that people
can get it, all of a sudden, it's not just
soldiers that would get it, you know, and things like
that too, And it's just oh god, And I love

(39:56):
that you mentioned social media because it's social media. I
have a love hate relate shit with. I feel like
sometimes they some people just need to stop talking. Like,
you know, these people get on here and start telling
people things, and of course people start believing them instead
of asking the important question of like what is your
background in this area? Do you have any idea what
you're talking about? Oh no, no, no, We're just gonna
start talking and people are gonna start listening, and it's like, uh,

(40:18):
come on now, Like have we gotten so lazy as
society that we just can't do a little research into
Like Okay, this person's telling me something, but what are
their credentials that they're telling me these? Are they are
an actual doctor, they've done any studies and these things?
Or are they just somebody mindlessly rambling that's catching my
attention with all these loud, big words, because you know,
it's a lot of times you see him, it's it's

(40:39):
always the hot topic issue of the day. Oh we're
gonna go for this one, and then just get them
all like riled up about it, you know, and things
like that too that happen, and it's just oh god,
it you sacriface me, it really does. I just I
can't stand it because you like to watch them it
and you're just like okay, yeah, like like I know,
to look at it differently, but other people are just
like eating, feeding into this crap. And then you read

(40:59):
the comments and just like, oh God, help us all
here we go. You know, it's just like the things
these people are saying. You're just like, okay, y'all stop,
please stop stop feeding this person more. Stop hyping this
person and telling them they're doing great when they have
no idea what they're talking about. Like they're they're like
the snake Elo salesman, like they're selling you this crap.
And then you're like, oh, it's real, and you're like

(41:20):
I'm like, no.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
No, it's not stop please stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's where we live so people can check are they
feeling better. So there's a lot of podcasts that give
wonderful information. I mean know, that's how I started, right,
whether it was a video or a podcast. Is it
empowering or is it not? If it's making you feel worse,

(41:47):
especially if you're having challenges in your life, that's the
worst thing you can do. Yeah, So we were not
created to come to a miserable life and on Unfortunately,
including myself. We've ended up on the hamster wheel.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, I like you keep saying the hamster whel That
makes me laugh time.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And it's interesting. Imagine you're a hamster. You can't jump
off the wheel when it's spinning very fast. You or
like a Let's say you want to get out of
car and it's speeding so fast you want to get out,
You're gonna get injured. So you yourself the hamster, which

(42:30):
is me. Now I can't get on with my My
thoughts are racing, racing, racing, going circle, loop and loop
and looping like the windmills of your mind. There's an
old song, right, So you want to slow down your
brain waves, and now you jump off the hamster wheel.
Now there's no injury on my body because I made

(42:53):
a conscious effort. Okay, I know what I'm gonna do.
I may get a little scratches, but I'm or it
was because people are not gonna like what I'm doing
or saying or believing, and I'm jumping off the hamster
right right. I agree.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I love that analogy. Maybe laugh every time. I've already
tried to hold a straight face with that. That's funny.
Everything you're saying because it's so true though, because it
gets you so ramped up as you're scrolling through and
you're just endlessly doom scrolling, and that's what's happened. The
wheel's going, man, and it's like you want to get off,
but you can't because you're going too fast. And people
are scared to just unplug from it, which they'll feel amazing.
I guarantee it. We'll just try it once in a while,

(43:28):
just unplugged for like a day and see how how
great that fear of missing out isn't there anymore, you know.
And TikTok's really good at that too, because they'll start
sending those fifty thousand invites. Oh I'm live, I'm live,
I'm live, I'm lie. Like I'd stopped responding to half
of them. People are like, oh, I haven't seen you
in a while. I know. I chose to not be
seen for a while because I like, you know where
to find me. It's not like you don't know what

(43:49):
I'm doing, you know, And it's I just I just
couldn't give into the phone anywhere. I got caught in
that for a little bit and I was like, mmm, no, nope,
I just eventually decided to start and plugging. I'll just
stop responding and then, like after five o'clock, I'll just
stop answering most messages unless it's something important, I just
cut it off because it's just when my wife gets
home usually, so I work third ship, so I work overnight.

(44:11):
I record during the day most days, you know, changing
my schedule up a little more on that too. But
now it's it's a recording a day. When she comes
at five o'clock, it's that's it done. It's more it's
all about me and her. That's it. You know. I
might go on my phone and if I had to
show her something, but other than that, whenever she's talking
to me. Try a new thing. Guys, let me tell you,
put your phone straight down when someone's talking to you.

(44:31):
It works, wonders. You know, conversations go better that way,
by the way. You know, just life pack there for you. You know,
you actually pay attention to what somebody's saying for once,
it's nice, you know, none of this, you know, sitting
here like this in front of the screen, it's just
it's not stop, okay, stop. Like if you go to
a restaurant, you sit there, look around the room and
watch how many people actually are sitting on their phones.
It's crazy, Like put your phone down for two minutes,

(44:53):
the person in front of you is there, and then
they wonder why people get so mad. It's like, it's
not this is not real, not a it's not a masterclass.
Need guys, how about use common sense, like put your
phone down for five minutes and actually interact with the
person in front of you for two. You know, it
doesn't take much, It really doesn't, you know, And it's
it's funny to watch too, So I got I'm getting
better at it. That's why doing my wife now, which

(45:14):
I'll start looking at something, she'll start talking to me.
Instantly phone goes straight down. I'll put it right down
on the way from me, Because I have that problem
where I get so sucked into what I'm doing. I'm
not paying attention to what she's saying, and it's causing
her to get upset with me. And then I'm like, well,
what are you upset about?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Now?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
It's okay, I'm focused on what she's saying. I can
see that, you know, I'm listening to her, you know.
And then she appreciates it too, and she doesn't get
so mad at me about like I'm not paying attention.
Sometimes I'll miss details, you know, it happens, you know,
but the effort is there, and she sees it and said,
she said it was weird at first, I'm not like
glued to my phone like I was in the beginning
with this podcast. I was constant on my phone doing something.

(45:51):
But now I found these little things that I can
they do everything for me now, so that was so
much easier for me to do. So anybody knew that
gets into podcasting and tell them all the things. I'm like, listen,
let me save you a headache and trouble that I've
gone through. I've done the trial process for you, guys.
These are the things you should have set up and
just let it do its own thing. And you know
it's great and everything like that too, because it's so
hard sometimes unplug. I know, social medias addictive like that,

(46:13):
and you know, it's an addiction if you want to
think about it either way, it's an addiction the way
you think about it, because you're stuck looking at the
phone like this. Even walking down the street. People do
that too. They're like they're stucked, you know, sitting there
staring at their phones instead of like enjoying the reality
of life that it is, you know, like to go outside,
touch grass. There's a lot of people like to say
and all the other fun stuff. But Sophia, we're at
the part of the interview where I'd like to ask

(46:33):
you a couple of questions. I've asked all my guys
the same questions. I don't know if you've ever seen
one of these episodes. So the first one is actually
credit to a good friend of mine. She asked me
a question to interview. So I'm gonna ask you the
same thing, Sophia. If your mental health had a song,
what would that song be? If I didn't, If your
mental health had a song, what would that song be?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Stare Away to Heaven?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I love it, I love it. There you go. And
then next question, and the reason this whole podcast exist
is if you can break the stigma about anything about
mental healthy here, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
There is no stigma because you can change your reality
and you can heal to go to a parallel, alternate
version of yourself where it's whole. And how do we know? That?
Was it symbol of the movie with the multiple personalities?
I can't remember the movie right, So each version of
herself that had the condition was a reality. So you

(47:32):
can enter in your reality that there is no mental stigma,
just your body telling you you're out of alignment. That's
how I see it.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I love it. I love it well. Sophia. Thank you
so much for being here today. I appreciate you coming
to talk to me. I enjoyed this conversation a lot. Guys,
I'm gonna have her information down in the link to
this video. Do you recording wherever you're listening to this
right now? And so if you thank you so much
for coming again, I appreciate it. Did you want to
let anybody else know where else they can find you
beside your website or do you retort to drive them
right to the website.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
No, I'm happy, But first of all, I want to
give a message because, as I said, I was expected
to not live twice. So wherever you are, wherever that
situation is, you can turn it around. Not saying it's easy,
but you can turn it around. And you can find

(48:20):
on me on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, at LinkedIn, all with
the handle of tap into your Best Self with an
exception of Facebook it's tapp into your best self dot
org versus dot com, and I have a lot of
free information, including quizzes to see if you're having an

(48:41):
anxiety or something, and a lot of free PDFs so
you can start with some tapping scripts so you can
stop start for free.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Awesome, I love it. Thank you so much again, guys,
i'mp for anxieties. You know you can find me an
x all wait on a TikTok. I'm on Spotify all
way down at heart Radio. And I was always say it
costs absolutely nothing, constantly nothing to be kind of somebody,
one kind act. You could just save some life for hell,
can you make their day? I'm Peatriot's anxiety saying. Now
I'm saying, don't ask her your day is today? Say hey,
how's your mental health today?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
So bad? Don't wreck my back. We're design to respect
it and I turn, but yeah, we dive and the
pretext to cut my chechot have I worn whether die?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Don't got them worned my respected?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Don't capt what guy?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Don't think God wouldn't

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