Unveiling the Truth Behind Lethal Venom

Summary
In this episode, Peter and Noah May discuss the journey of starting the Lethal Venom podcast, focusing on mental health issues such as anxiety and depression. They explore the stigma surrounding mental health, particularly among men, and emphasize the importance of open conversations. Noah shares his personal experiences and insights, highlighting the need for community support and understanding. The discussion also touches on the podcasting community and the connections made through shared stories and experiences.


Takeaways
Noah May shares his journey from Alabama to podcasting.
The importance of mental health discussions in today's society.
Personal experiences with anxiety and depression can resonate with many.
Breaking the stigma around mental health is crucial for men.
Podcasts can serve as a platform for honest conversations.
The role of community and support in mental health recovery.
Understanding that mental health issues affect everyday people, not just 'crazy' individuals.
The significance of sharing personal stories to help others.
Networking with other podcasters can enhance growth and reach.
Encouraging open dialogue about mental health can save lives.




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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to exciting little peak for Society. I have
a very special guest today. He is the host of
the Lethal Vetom podcast. Please welcome in the One, the Only,
No A main No. How you doing today, Bud, I'm
doing good, doing good. Thank you for having me. Well,
thank you for me here. Man. Why'd you tell Abrady
a little more about yourself?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, as you probably can hear from my voice, I'm
from the Deep South, where we're very illiterate. I'm I'm
from the Gray seat of Alabama. I've been living here
since I was born. I've Alabama born and raised. I
recently graduated from Auburn with a bachelor's degree in journalism.
And as he mentioned on the host of the Lethal podcast,
the show where I really talk about anything I want
with Donna's to got truth where it's right, I'll tell

(00:59):
you any lies. And that podcast has been kind of
going around for about five months now. I've been doing
that and other than I also suffer from some mental
health issues as well, and that's gonna be kind of
kind of the main focus I put on my show.
But that's just a little bit about me.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Just so, did what did you start?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, So let me ask you that everybody's in quoted question,
when what was that moment you decided you wanted to
start your podcast? Man, what was that one thing that said,
you know, when you woke up and answaerd, fuck it,
I'm gonna do it. By the way, I love the
name lethal Vendom. By the way, dude, I was. I
was jealous when I saw. I was like, that's a
great name too.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
So it was kind of like how you explained it.
Woke up one morning and was just like, I wanted
to do podcasts, but of course I had no idea
how podcast how it went. I'd heard about it at
that time. I think it was about twenty twenty one. Yeah,
I think it was about twenty twenty one. I just
woke up wanted to do one, but kind of was
had no knowledge of it. I'd listened to a few

(01:52):
podcasts at that point. There was just a few podcasts
I'd listened to, but it wasn't I wasn't like a pro.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So I did this.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I had to do research and Google to make sure
that it was kind of simple to do. I found
this company at the time, or someone had recommended them
to me, called Anchor which kind of got rebranded for Spotify.
Spotify took over and now it's Spotify for podcasters or
creators now, But at the time it was called Anchor,
and the platforms was pretty straightforward. It was you kind

(02:22):
of could record, edit if you wanted to, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Post it and it was that simple. So Rep.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Fry was about to start recording. I had some personal
stuff come up in life and it kind of got
the podcast skipt the back burner, and I was how
to put that to a side. So kind of a
year past year or two passed, and when I went
to Auburn there was this class that was opening up
for podcasting. We had a guest come to one of
my journalism classes and say, hey, I'm opening up and

(02:51):
launching a new podcasting class next year. If anyone was
interested in wanting to participate in the class, talk to
your advisor and see if you can put on the waitlist. Well,
I went to my are immediately and said I want
to go in there. To me, it was kind of
it had to be like a purpose. It was like
something's it was just meant to be. I said, there's.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Something like, dude, the way every things started falling into place.
It was like, you know, he thought about it, and
then here it is that class resent it to yourself,
you know, and all this stuff. You know, So that's awesome.
And then not to matter of fact, you have journalism
in your background. Man, does that make it easier for
you to interview people?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Though it does, I don't get as nervous anymore. Which
the thing with journalism, and I guess podcasting is podcasting
you kind of can plan it really far ahead. All
the guests that I've had on my show have been
planned and we've talked, we've set up a time, and
then it's just kind of the Whiting process. When it
comes to journalism and reporting, there's a lot of spontaneous

(03:48):
reporting that you have to do. So there's a lot
of people that you have to every day and breaking
news you have to do. Interview people that are from
they're not you've never met them before, you've never had
a prior experience with them, and you just have to
interview them round on the spot. Those are kind of
the ones where you get nervous about because it's it's

(04:09):
not planned, so you don't know what they're gonna say,
how they're gonna be on camera. You don't know what
they're how they're gonna react, So it's easier when it
comes to podcasting. But what the experience that I had
from classes that I took at Auburn and even in
my community college, I had like a pretty good experience
with interviewing people. And even if I didn't have any experience,

(04:32):
the podcast has actually really helped and getting that experience
in no.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I agree. I agree, man, I've done like what it
did first year to two hundred interviews, and it just
seems like it got easier every time you hit record. Man,
it just got easier. And you know, here's a fun fact.
I don't even prepare for ninety percent of them. I
just kind of go into it just straight off the bat.
But I just don't. I have no problem with it though,
you know. I mean for me, it's like I'll look
and see you. It's a little bit of what they
talk about things like that too, and I just jump

(04:59):
into conversation and it flows just really well for me.
And maybe that's just because it's just easy for me
to talk to people in general. You know. I know,
I got nervous as hell when in my first one.
I was like, oh shit, out what am I doing?
You know, and things like that too, man, But it
got easier every time you hit record, and then more
people kept saying yes, and then bigger people kept saying yes,
you know. And it's crazy, man. The first year I

(05:20):
had a global bestseller, four to five of these top
percent podcasting hosts and their respective categories and things like
that too, you know. And if I would have looked
at it from day one to where I'm now, it's
like I would have never seen that coming. You know,
don't get me wrong. You know, the space I'm in,
We've had a lot of interesting conversations come up. You know.
We had a guy who was talking about his suicide
ideation on the show Man. I thought everybody was gonna

(05:42):
have a fucking panic attack. They're all freaking out. They're like,
oh God, he's talking about how you always killed himself.
That morning He's like that morning I was saying, it
is the bed. I had the gun in my hand,
and I remember that was the moment I almost had
a damn heart attack because I was like, oh God,
what do I do in this moment? You know, you
just don't know how these interviews are going to go.
You don't know what these people. By the way, I'm
seriously I love that name so great.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So this podcast kind of launched off another podcast I
have Okay, when I was lucky enough to get in
the podcasting class. When it got offered, I was one
of the first students in there, and which looking back,
I think he already had it going, so I wasn't
technically one of the first, but I had to think
of it as I was. And one of the assignments

(06:23):
that we had to do was a pitch and it's
kind of the same thing as you've probably heard from
regular job interview things where you have to do like
a job pitch or something. It was similar to that.
We had to pitch an idea to the class about
a podcast and kind of give an idea about what
we wanted to do and kind of get feedback from
the class. So I had this both podcasts in mind

(06:44):
because I was a huge avid reader. I had just
started back reading close to that time, so I actually
fell back in love with reading and I thought I
want to do podcasts on reading, So I launched that one.
But in the middle of pitching it, there was another
idea that came in the back of my mind, that
was what if I want to do like a podcast
where it's just me because I'm I'd been silenced my

(07:06):
whole life. No one ever wanted to hear what I
had to say, and so I thought, well, maybe I
should make a podcast and be able to finally speak
my truth and kind of have my views and personal
opinions out there and people can finally hear what I
have to say. And so I after I had pitched
the book, when I think I had pitched this one,
which at the time had no name. It was still

(07:27):
kind of a it was a lot. It was a
work in progress at the time, so it had no name.
But I think I said to the class, I wanted
to do maybe like a variety type show where I
talked more about personal stuff. And some people had positive things,
some people had some critiques in it and about the
show idea and everything. But it was one of those
moments where you take it all and you just really

(07:49):
just go with your own gut and run with your idea.
It was like, well, screw what everyone has to say.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I won't do it. Whether I won't, whether you like
it or not.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
So that was real because so that was kind of
the mead I had with this podcast, I said, I
don't care whether people say.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I want to do it no matter what.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And so the name took the longest for me to
come up with because I thought, I wanted to be
kind of a name that's not familiar with people, or
it's different from everything else. But I also wanted it
to be kind of like have like a meaning to it.
So I thought and thought, and then I thought, well,
I wanted it to be called venom or poison at first,

(08:26):
because to my mind it was the the truth can
be like venom, it hurts and can kill you sometimes.
So that's kind of where the name came from. Well,
venom and poison were already taken, and I had this
rule where I said, I want my name to be
the only podcast name on the platform I want to

(08:47):
look at and have. As thought, I don't want my
podcast ham to be the same as anyone else. So
for this one, I tried to other names. I tried
to like the plural version of venomus and poisonous, and
those were taken, and I thought, I thought, okay, but
I really want this name. I really want the same.
So I put lethal in front.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Of it and.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Lohold lethal venom wasn't thinking. So I just kind of thought,
I'm claiming that name now because my leg would be
someone will claim it and probably come up with that name.
So I claimed it. And yeah, the name kind of
came from the thing how the traits hurts sometimes as
venom is lethal, the traths can be the same way.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
No, I agree, man, I love it though. I think
it's I think it's a great name. Like I said,
that's how mine came across. It was just like one
day I was just sitting there and all of a
sudden it hit me, what about Pete versus anxiety? You know,
because my anxiety is my biggest battle I have every day.
And it just clicked from there, man, and it just
rolled off the tongue. When I pitched the idea for
the show, bro, if I could have told you my
phone I thought was going to blow up from how

(09:47):
many messages I got just from just posting the concept
out there saying hey, listen. You know because I did
a podcast prior to it's called Pete's Corner Store. I
did a friend and it just didn't work out. Near
the end. It was just like it was causing too
many problem and I was just like, you know what,
I don't like where this is going. So we hit
the episode about men's mental health, you know, and when
we started really looking to statistics, dude, I think that's

(10:08):
where the first I started, This conception of the show
started because I was like, shit, what do we get?
Why aren't we talking about these subjects of us? So
when you go into research it mental health, you see
all these doctors, this and that. It's like, but where
are the regular people just having a conversation like you
and I. We're not certifying anything, therapists, all these things.
We're just having an open, honest conversation about this topic.

(10:30):
So I said, fuck it, let's go for it. Let's
see what happens. He is you know, at this point
I was like, I want a podcast. I just don't
know what I want to do yet, so let me
pitch this idea. There. See what happened floated out to
a couple of these groups where I was in a
bunch of people, you know, do guest requests and things
like that, and that's how we we. I found I
had something because the minute I posted it, about an
hour later, I had about one hundred and fifty responses

(10:51):
of people just wanting the lineup to be on this thing,
you know. And I got invited to join a network
at the same time, you know, and the guy was
like he just reached out to me and he was like, yeah, hey,
wanna be hard to say and it just got kind
of crazy though, So but it was just like, you
didn't realize how much a man is there to talk
about mental health. So, speaking of mental ting, you mentioned
that you have your own mental issues. Would you like

(11:12):
to elaborate on some of those unless know what it is.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You deal with, So, like you, I have anxiety as well.
That's been the kind of the pain that's been the
thing that's been kicking me in my ass since today.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
And then I also deal with depression as well. The
depression stemmed from when I was thirteen, so I got
it young. It was one of those things where it
came very early, I thought it was. So when I
got diagnosed with depression, it was I didn't really know
what it was at the time because school wasn't teaching it.

(11:44):
My parents tried not to talk about it, so it
was just kind of a blind side to me.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
It was a lone process of how it came to be.
So I think this was around eighth grade. My grandmother
had gotten diagnosed with Alzheimer's into demnia at the same time,
and her healths just went completely downhill from there.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
So no, let me ask you if I were you
guys really close your grandmother and you Yeah, I was
there with you. Man, I can relate to that a
little bit too, though. That's that's rough, man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So during that time, it was very much a struggle
bus for me. Yeah, I just kind of my whole
personality had changed. I just wasn't the same person that
I usually was, and so when it came to time
to kind of by the time I got diagnosed with
the depression, it was kind of like almost.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hit rock bottom.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
During that time I got I had a really severe
porn addiction at the time because it was just for
me an escape from reality at that point. I did
have suicidicide thoughts at the time as well. Never fell
through with those plans because I was kind of scared
to do it. I was kind of too like I
just and it was it would have been hard for

(12:57):
me to do because I didn't have like resources here
to do it anyway, so it was kind of like
lost calls to try to do it, and so I went.
And also school was hard at that time as well.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I was going through I could imagine a.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Rebellious time with people I was hanging around, bad influences
of kids that were troublemakers to me, that were bullys
to me as well. But I tended to just stay
around that all the time. There was just a multitude
of things that kind of just kept adding up. And
I remember that year for Christmas, it was just like
I loved back at it as like.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
What was I thinking?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
But it being twenty fifteen, you know, most kids around
that time would want new video games, maybe then new
like an iPhone five or six that had just come out,
and but for me, I wanted like a typewriter and
a rotary phone. I can't tell you why I wanted
that out of everything for a thirteen year old to
ask for, those are the two main things I wanted.
And my mom, of course, she knew this from left field.

(13:52):
She felt something's wrong with him, something's wrong. And so
I was stupid one day and was watching poorn and
middle of the day because I didn't know better because
I was stupid, and she caught me and for two hours,
she just she just really sat down with me, and
I just told her everything that was going on about

(14:14):
my grandmother at the time, how my grandmother and my
grandfather were fighting all the time now, and how school was.
She just sat there for two hours and listened. She
didn't interrupt, she didn't talk down on me or anything.
She set up she thought, and she said, I knew
something had to have been going on because you've just
not been yourself the past few months. I could tell

(14:34):
something was wrong. She said, We're gonna go to the doctor.
We're gonna see And we went to the doctor and
he said, oh, no question, you have depression. It's evident.
I mean, you show strong signs of depression symptoms, the
porn addiction, the sad thoughts and lack of motivation. I mean,

(14:54):
he said that there's so many red flags there and
that this alarms that scream you have it. That was
an easy thing to get diagnosed. And I had something
called clinical depression, where it's a form of depression that
comes and goes in waves. There's not really a particular
time that I'll know when the depression will come. So

(15:15):
I could be depression free for three months and be
free for seven years, and then it comes back for
two years and stays gone for a week. It's that
kind of depression. You just can't control it. Certain parts
of the year there are triggers for it, though. Usually
January through March or and April are usually not good
times for me because I've had a lot of traumatic
stuff happened to me in those those first few months

(15:37):
of my life. I've had something happened from pets dying,
to my anxiety diagnosis, to my grandmother passing away. It
was it was just a multitude of things that led
up to it. So usually around that time people have
to be real. I have to be put on watch
essentially and have to be very much like stared at

(15:58):
to make sure I'm not doing suicide audiation, not having
these thoughts, not trying to go down like the dark
path again. So that's kind of how the depression started,
and the anxiety is like a whole other story, all.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Right, No, man, I hear you there. Though I do
find it interesting though, the porn addiction that comes in,
because we did a whole episode somebody that did that
you know, how did it get pretty weird? Though? I
mean I know that from what we had known, I
mean the listeners have known from the gentleman behind named Gt. Ten.
He came on and we were talking about it. He said,
it only gets weirder. So did he get really weird
before you got caught? Or is it just kind of

(16:34):
like just kind of like we're just addicted to watching.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Trying to pinpoint exactly how I got addicted to it,
I still have third people.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You said you were thirteen at the time, right, So
you're probably just curious honestly in the first place, because
we all were young men. You know, we were old girls.
You know, we're just discovering girls and things like that too,
and you know stuff like that as well. So it
makes sense though you know you didn't realize it either.
You know. You know a lot of people think when
they think addiction, they think that it's an everyday thing.
It's it's really not. It's the way you go about it,

(17:02):
like you hide it. You feel shamed about it. You know.
It hats off to your mom though, man, she she
sounds like she she at least listened to you and
gave you a space to talk man, because I don't know.
My mother would have felt the same way. She would
have gone off the rails. She would have found me
watching pornography or something. Dude, she would have gone nuts,
you know. And it's hard man.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, and not saying that she didn't go nuts either,
but she was mad about it. It wasn't It wasn't
a fun conversation to have, but it was like a
it was of a lord, take me now. But I
don't want to say that it got weird. Really, I
didn't really watch any peculiar stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, I just asked you because I know that they
said we and GT were talking about it. He was mentioning,
sometimes the addiction gets really weird, like like it just
gets weirder because it's just fulfilling that that sensation and
Russia getting from watching it. Like you get to some
pretty oddball stuff like what do you say? You say,
tranny porn as usual to get up to And he said,
a lot of straight guys will say, oh, I never

(18:03):
watched it, and you know, and nobody, nobody really gonnadmit
to watching a lot of that stuff, you know, for
some of those guys that are really insecure and things
like that, but he's like that. So that's only reason
I asked if it got weird because I was just
curious because I know that he said that when it
gets bad enough, it gets really strange, like they go
to more stranger extents from there too, and just you know,
he said, usually that's the next level they go to
and then it just gets even stranger from there, depending

(18:25):
on how bad it is, you know. So I was
just a curiosity question.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, to my knowledge, it didn't. That's just from my memory.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now. Yeah, maybe there might have been one.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Video I did, but it kind of didn't get to
that point where it was. I got it so addicted
to it. It was like I couldn't stop it. It
was an everyday thing and it was pretty severe, which
I still watch it now, but it's nowhere in regard
to what it was.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It was not.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's not affecting my like it got to the point
where it was I didn't want to do school work
at the time. I couldn't go to sleep without watching it.
I had to watch it four hundred every every second.
Had to watch it because to me, it was an escape.
Some people get it for like the joy of in
the sexual gratification from it. But for me, it was

(19:15):
kind of just an escape because it was something I'd
never seen before. And it was still pretty naive at
the time, like I didn't know any of the urns.
I didn't know anything that was going on. So I
was watching it, but I was like, I don't know
what they're doing, but I don't know what the terms are.
But it was just fascinating to me. Yeah, never really
tried anything at the time either. Well I might have,

(19:37):
but I think it was until high school when I
started trying stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I tried to hold off the innocence to men, but yeah,
thirteen fourteen, it was kind of this. It was like
eye candy.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It was like, yeah, man, I remember, we're thirteen broll.
We all were trying to seek in videos watching it shit.
Our parents always had it hidden somewhere, and it's like, oh,
you're always told not to touch us, and now you
want to go see what the forbidden fruit is, So
now you want to go see what this shit is?
What is this? Oh my god, what are they doing?
Why are they hurting that woman? Why? You know? It's
just like you know it. It's like I get it, man,

(20:13):
it's it's you know, it's something new, you know, you know,
and we grew up in the older I grew in
the nineties. Man, when you had the playboys and all them,
all the accessibility was just there. It was just an
everything thing. All that smut be behind the counter, you
could see it. So somebody's dad had a porno mag
and we're all excited to go look at the magazine.
And you know, phones weren't really that big. And you know,

(20:33):
when I was younger, you know, I'm old enough for
when the Internet just started to AOL was our pretty
much our own thing. Man. Chat rooms were a big thing
at that time. You know, just just you know, old.
I I'm old, okay. I remember when they had the
phone lines a right, the hotline numbers. Used to call them,
and thought it was cool to go prank call these
phone lines and started talking to these girls on the
sex phones, irons and shit. We thought it was great.

(20:54):
And one month our dad caught us and he was
pissed because he's like, what's this one hundred dollars charge
on the phone bill? I don't know, man, what's one
eight hundred? USA? Girls? Oh? I don't know, Dan, I
don't know what that is. Who the hell you'll be
calling it? One of he calls the number and he's
look the look on his face, just it's face during
red and he'd be like, oh, he knew what it

(21:17):
was the minute he called. He said, it's like hello, welcome,
you know, and it starts doing the whole interest thing
and he's just like looking at us, and we're like, oh, yeah,
we're fucked. We're in trouble. Because Mike, my older brother,
was the one that showed it to us. You remember,
we didn't have video back then, and then we just
had the still images, so you had like still images
of things, and he was the one showing us a
lot of this stuff. You know what else we had
a rotten dot com with all this fucking crazy, nasty

(21:39):
shit that you could see was the two girls one
cup thing was still getting kind of big when I
was younger. And then we got to some really odd
ball once like one man, one jar if you really
want to get to the extent, you know, and just
some really crazy shit that started happening though. But you
got to remember, though the Internet was still new for us,
so like video porn online was not accessible. You had
to have the videotapes, the magazines, those were all big.

(21:59):
Now that when that media moved away to where we're
at now, where like you porn and all these other
sites come into play. It's now you have more accessibility
at your fingertips. How you can access it from your phone,
your TV's and everything else nowadays, you know, I mean
it's so easy to get into. You know, and depending
on when you were thirteen and what year it was,
you you had endless amount of things at your fingertips,

(22:20):
so you goud knows what the hell you're watching at
that point because you have access to all this stuff.
You type in one term and it pulls up some
kind of pornography video now and it's it's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I was, I was. I think it was about
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. You know, that was kind of
like when it all happened, and I did have like
a phone, and you're right, it was easy access of here.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was just like.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You're searching one word and all this stuff pops up
and you're just like, whoa what It's just like wait.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
A minute, wait a minute, is that what I searched for?
I searched for little puppies, not a guy dressed like
a puppy or a dude on lea exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
But luckily I didn't see any of that. Yeah, you know,
a fun fact, I've never seen like the two girls
one cup thing. I've never seen that. I think I
was lucky. And people say it was the most nasty thing,
and I've yet the like. I think I even tried
looking for it and I couldn't find it.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So I thought, Okay, somewhere, I'm sure, I'm sure somewhere
to be found. But it was it was pretty vaulting.
I've seen a few minutes of it, and I'm just like,
this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in
my life. Why are people watching this? I think it's
more for the shock value of this, Like people saying
you saw it's like, oh god, have you seen that?
And then one man one jark, you can only imagine
what that was like that was, Yeah, it was pretty bad.
It was just like, you know, these are the things

(23:35):
we looked up as kids and we thought this was crazy,
you know, and things like that too. Now a lot
of this stuff, it's just it doesn't make you don't
know what you're gonna find these days, like the weirdest,
weirdest shit will show up on your things, you know,
and everybody's like, oh, they acts like it's all brand new,
but it's really not, because we used to have this beforehand.
You're like rotten dot com. It was just the most
revolting pictures you ever seen, people shitting on themselves and

(23:57):
just an example, some wild shit. We all thought it
was funny to look just to see the crazy shit
on there and see which one of our friends gets
grossed out first, kind of thing. You know. We didn't
have the greatest mindsets when it came to that too.
So I grew up in like a small town, so
we didn't have a lot going on out there. So
like you imagine, you're out in the middle of the
cornfields and about ten miles to the next town each way,
and that's what you do, and you get creative when

(24:18):
you're trying to figure out how to entertain yourselves like
these days, you know. But but yeah, man, I hear.
I feel you though on the depression thing, bro, Like,
my person gets bad sometimes too, and it's just some
days like it's it's so bad that people don't even
know And then it's like, but let me ask you
though this question though, It's like, when it happens, what
do you what do you suggest to people like, say,

(24:39):
somebody they know may have depression? What do you what
do you think is what's the best way to approach it?
Do you feel like? I mean, everybody has your own
way to feel about. Like myself, I hate when people
sit thinking, oh, well, you know, I'm so sorry enough
to have you know whatever, I'm so sorry. I just
don't want to hear all that. Honestly to me, I'm
just like I already feel like shit. I don't need
you to continue to pour onto it because I know
you think you're helping me, but you're really not.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
The best way that I kind of have found is
to not keep it in, speak up and speak out
about it, because what it ends up doing is that
it weighs you down. You get too far down to
the point where you might hit rock bottom, you may
never come back up. So I've always recommended to people
that if you have, if you feel like the most
sense of depression, if you want to start hurting yourself

(25:23):
or anything, or you feel sad, to speak up and
talk about it. Don't keep it bottled up, and it
can be like if you want to talk to a friend,
if you want to talk to a doctor, if you
want to talk to a family member, or even just
some like a coworker that you trust to talk to
somebody because it's better to open up and share what
it is and instead of keeping it bottled up, because

(25:44):
if you keep it bottled up, it can lead to
really bad, really huge consequences, and some of those consequences
cannot be reversed.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, no, agree, man, I agree. I think I think
it's the hardest about those we's males. We don't talk
about it enough. I think that you know, it's that
whole macho man person and everybody puts out that you're
you're not allowed to talk about your feelings or you're
weak to talk about it. Listen, I can tell you
anybody who's listens just right now. You can reach out
to me ever and talk to me anytime you like.
I'm always listening. You know, I don't care how shitty

(26:11):
my day is. If you reach out and say, hey, Pete,
I need to talk or you need somebody to listen,
I will literally listen. If you need to call me
and want to talk to me and whatever I'm on,
I'm on anything you want. I give up my number
to people a lot of times to people and say, hey, listen,
you ever need somebody to talk to, just give it,
reach out to me. I'm always up because I'm usually
I work third shift, so I'm awake at night, so
people can text me throughout the night and you know,

(26:33):
just let me know what your thoughts are. I'll shoot
back when I can. I readily leave it open for everybody,
even though I have my own things that are going on.
I just understand this. Sometimes you know, you just want
somebody to listen to what you have to say. Man,
And this is the same thing for you know. Man,
I'm reaching out and let you know right now. Brother,
as soon as this ends, if you like, dude, I
will give you my number. You can call me anytime
if you ever feel like you're down on the dumps,
especially January to March. Man, you can you just call

(26:56):
and talk to me about it or let me know.
We can figure whatever out. And you know, just calling
reach in and check in on you. Whatever I need
to do. Man, I just feel like not enough guys
look out for each other. Man. I just like just
because you and I don't know each other on that
person of a level doesn't mean that we can't check
in on each other and be human and say, hey, man,
how you doing today? You're doing okay? Or you know, hey, Pete,
I'm having a rough day, dude, are you free to talk?

(27:17):
And I'm like, hey, yeah, man, then I'll be fround
this time. Hit me up and I'll just listen if
you need somebody to listen. You know what I'm saying, Like,
it's just not enough. I feel like we as men
don't talk about this enough, you know, And it's just
it's crazy. It's like, you know, if you look at
the suicide statistics, we're eighty fucking percent. Dude, Like, when
are we going to start talking? It's like, hello, how
much more do you want to lose? Do we gotta

(27:37):
go to eay one for somebody to start saying something like, hey,
enough is enough, let's start talking, you know, And it's
it's just fucking crazy. Man. It's just like, if you
think about it, if there's five of your friends in
a group, three of those friends are most likely won't
be maybe the fourth one may not be there either.
Just you know, you hope not, but at least three
of them aren't going to be there in that equation.
And it's the scariest fucking part of all. And it's
it's because we're just being too stubborn to talk about it,

(27:59):
or being were our feelings don't matter, or we're not
man enough, and it's bullshit. Honestly, Yeah, one.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Hundred percent agree, it's the same thing. It's more the
thing of I think men get scared to talk about
it because they want to precede this image and they
want to portray this persona themselves. It is sadly kind
of common for men when it comes to depression, anxiety,
as any kind of mental health disorder. It comes a

(28:26):
thing of they don't speak up because people don't want
them to speak up because it'll show that they're weak,
it'll show that they're not strong, and it just ruins
their health. Persona there's supposed to be god fearing men
that it's supposed to have tef skin. Nothing ever gets
them down, that they don't cry on anything, And that's

(28:48):
not true. It's not true because majority of the men
that you probably will face in your lifetime face some
sort of mental health diagnosis, whether it's mine or major
new old, it doesn't matter. Now, could there be instances
where people that are out there that can that don't
have it? Yeah, I think there's more. There's a lot

(29:11):
more men that have it than what you think.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, exactly. No, I think it's a great point, man,
I really do. I just think that. I don't know.
I don't I just don't get it, man, I don't
know what's gonna be that final breaking point for somebody
to finally say, Okay, enough is enough, let's start talking,
you know. And it's just you just can't stress it enough, man,
like like eighty eighty percent, Like, let's go back to
number eighty percent, guys, Like it's it's the reality of
the fact is that we're dying faster than we repopulating

(29:36):
because we make up most of the population older men. Okay,
so eighty percent of that is going. So we're we're
we're killing ourselves off faster than we're reproducing men. And
it's just all because we're too scared to open our
mouths and say something. We can. We can shout and
scream about sports. We can just goud scream about this,
you shout scream about that, But we show us fucking't
talk about a problem. It's like, come on, guys, like
you gotta stop. Man Like, Like, I just don't know

(29:58):
what's that one trigger point that's gonna be that somebody's
gonna finally say, Okay, well enough is enough. Now we
need to talk about these problems because too many guys struggle.
And I just feel like, you know, it's it's a
time to make the pushes now. I think that because
we're at eighty percent, I to shit. Once we eighty
one percent, we're really going even worse. You know, it's
crazy too, And how many of those are young men?
You think about it? Just start breaking down the numbers

(30:18):
a little bit, because you know, me and a guest
I had on a name mister Whiskey. He runs a
podcast called Couple of Nukes. A Whiskey and I were
talking about it. He was saying that when the Internet
was introduced and social media starting a big twenty percent
is the number that jumped up through for young men
that committed suicide. And it was just like that should
have been a dead giveaway something wrong right there, Like
what the fuck? Man? Like, huh, Like, how much more
do we have to watch? How many more people we

(30:40):
have to lose for this to be finally become a problem,
you know, And it goes like anything about like COVID,
covid aret killing every enough, what do we do. We
finally made something to fix that problem, you know, but
it's like, we won't fix this problem. You know, it
keeps showing up and we're old school shootings. Well, mental
health is the issue, okay, so then what do we
do about the issue. Well, we're just gonna sweep in
on the rug. We'll worry about it later time. It's okay,
don't worry about it, you know, or is it? You know?

(31:00):
It's I think the other thing too, is it's hard
for people to find access to you know, a therapy
and help and all that kind of stuff like that too.
I think that should be readily more available. It's like,
you demand, we have all these other things, but why
not have these people that are struggling and get them
some help because clearly they're not making it through there.
They're struggling. People are going into addiction because they're trying
to self medicate, you know, and in one place into

(31:21):
the other always And it's just like, even though we
know this is a problem, we still don't want to
fix the problem, and it's it's crazy, It's like, you know,
it just it doesn't make any sense to me. Man,
I'm like, why the hell it is that we can't
have an open and honest conversation, you know. And I
think that's a great thing about our shows is that
we're pushing that boundary because we're both males and we're
talking about these other subjects and you're just like, we're

(31:43):
going to keep it wrong real with people. And I
think sometimes that's the way to approach them in too,
like just be real, honest about it and you know,
let them let them understand that, hey, listen, you come
in here and say whatever you want. You won't be
judged in this space at all. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I actually interview mister Whiskey too and actually.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Give you a love Whiskey do. He's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So I actually interviewed him and guests on this show too,
and it was like, he's fuck it very well. We
talked about mental health too, and the struggles that men
face when it comes to mental health struggles and I
told him and shared my story as well. And he
was such a great guest to have on. He's such
a great guy. O.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
My god, Whiskey's amazing. So Whiskey, I and another gentleman
named Jay, who runs a podcast called Rock and Recovery,
we're talking about getting together and doing like a try
episode with all three of us. Maybe I'll have to
see what he thinks about bringing in you as well,
and we can bring it a fourth and have like
a roundtable discussion and you know, we'll have to come
with a really cool name for it though, or something
like that where you just just talk about shit, you know,

(32:37):
just the four of us get together and we just
discussed these things, like you know, what it is that
we feel these problems exist, and you know, and all
that other kind of stuff though. But I love Whiskey man.
He was awesome, dude. You know, it was a pleasure
having him, And then when he invited me to come
in his show, My god, it was such an honor
to be there with him because he asked such great
questions like he I think with Whiskey, he's the first
person I've got really deep into my own past and

(32:59):
I've already really told talked about myself Munch, because in
the beginning of the show, I really didn't say much
I kind of touched on it a little bit, but
Whiskey and I got really deep. And then there was
another one I did with is guy. Guy's name is
Flat Tire Indy. I'm trying to think of his name
of his podcasts, like on the Road or something on
the Ride or something like that. And him and I
were together for like two hours, dude, and we were
just talking for about everything, and he already gave me

(33:21):
a pre list of all the questions he was going
to ask me, dude, and we we got deep with
those kind of things. So his hats off to him too.
I love Whiskey man. He's awesome, dude. I love everything
he does. I think he's just he's really great. The
way he handles and conducts things. You know, he's really good.
So it's always great when you see other people that
get to interact with him too, because it's like, hell, yeah,
you mean you know Whiskey too, A hell, you know
That's what I'm talking about, you know. And if you

(33:42):
haven't had the pleasure of hosting yet, was it mostly unavailable?
With Melissa Hepner, dude, let me tell you she is
fucking a riot, dude. Like she's great because she breaks
that stigma about about you know, therapy itself. Like beings
are so like, oh you got lay on the couch
and talk. No, Melissa just shows up. The thing about
is Melissa's just like I just show up and I'm
there man, Like I'm there for you. Okay, listen. She's

(34:04):
not as real as it is. Like if you want
an unprofessional setting like not to stay, she's not a professional.
But you know, just like you don't get that like
full like you're in a you go in that office,
you feel like you're under the pressure, under the gun
to talk to this therapist. Melissa is your girl to
talk to.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
She just makes you feel easy right off the back
because she's just so mellow when she's talking to you,
and she just gives off that vibe really mellowness about
how she does things. And her show is really great too.
She has a lot of really interesting people that come
on and things like that too.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
As we interviewed her as well, she's been on my
show too. Hell yeah, so she was fantastic. I loved
having her on that was there. I think the one
person that I've had on my show that's been the
biggest impact on me was a lady Adrian Caldwell.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
She had come on.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
She was fucking phenomenal. It was probably most sad story
covered on here, so heart fit. I almost actually cried
on the show. And it was something that I normally
normally hear these stories and it doesn't really affect me.
There was just something and how she explained it touched
something here. And we talked for about an hour and

(35:14):
a half. I think it was pretty long, and man,
that was such a if. People that our podcast hosts
that have a mental health show highly recommend her.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. You know what I recommend to is Tiff Carson. Dude,
I'm gonna tell you right now. I started crying that episode. Bro.
She literally had my heart sings tugging and she was
telling that story. She's upset. I'm upset, like dude. It
was a hard story to listen to about her brother.
She was telling this story about her brother and everything,
and I was just like, I was holding it back
and then all of a sudden, I just lit it
ripped it. I just couldn't handle him. But it's just touched.

(35:44):
So it hurts so bad listening to this poor woman's story.
You know her, and I think The other one that
had a really crazy story that I met up with
was Susan so Is the author on the other side
of the gun. Yeah, she was really wrong. It was
a rough one too. Man. She had a crazy fucking story.
I was like, dude, like this is insane. She just
kept going. I was just like, oh God, God. Now
I've had other people that I've interviewed. I actually hadn't

(36:06):
interview with the girl the other day. Okay, so this girl,
let me tell you, when I tell you that you
had no idea what she was about to say next.
And this falls into this category perfectly because we went
from she had drug addictions, got abused by her ex
to the FBI is kicking in her door with sixteen
people coming through the door looking for her. I'm telling
you know, I can't make this story up for you.

(36:27):
When this thing comes out, bro, you have to listen
to the rest of this. But she really just said
they came kicking through the door looking for her and
everything else. And then you know they were looking for
because she was something about breaking bade many eliminated the
breaking back. I'm gonna give way the full thing, but
let me tell it got pretty wild. Gang so it
was intense. It was right up there. It's probably the
number one crazy story ever told by anybody that's just

(36:49):
come to tell their story. Number two was another girl
I had named Whitney. So Whitney I had met for
TikTok to a friend of mine and we were in
a mutual room at the time. Came in met her
just kept very kept saying, hey, man, you have and Shane.
So when she came on, we went from cam model
girl that was a mom to got kidnapped by somebody
was in a try try try relationship, and then went

(37:12):
back to getting got assaulted and things like that. And
just like this story went everywhere. You were going up
and down the whole time this woman is talking. It
was the craziest story I've ever heard in this show.
But it was very powerful because she when she was
doing the interview, she had a message at the end
of the show and it was you know, hi, my
name's Whitney. Deal with these things and start listing all
her issues she had, you know, which I think is

(37:33):
a very powerful statement for people because once you get diagnosed,
it doesn't identify you as a person. I think we
need to cover that really quick and really loud that
you all, you know, just because you have anxiety, you
have depression, BPD, whatever it is you have, it is
not what makes you the person. That's just something you
deal with. And Whitney, I think when she did it
was very powerful because very emotional because she was when

(37:55):
she said it. It was a very powerful statement that
just echoed out because when we were recording it, when
I was doing a live episode, she had twenty five
people watching this thing as this was going down, and
she started mentioning that and when she said that, that
was it, dude, that was That was the most possible
powerful statement ever made on that show ever, because she
literally made it hit it on a tee as that

(38:16):
just because you have anxiety doesn't make it that's not
you anymore. You can't sit there and say, well, I
have anxiety, so I can't do any things. You don't
limit yourself based on your diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm trying to think of some other people I've had
on here, which with my show being in like a
variety show, it's been more sporadic. I've had people from
all backgrounds on here. I had that's kind of been
the hage thing that I love about my show. It's well,
it does tend to have focused on one thing. Don't
get me wrong. I've had some wacky guests on here.

(38:46):
Don't don't get me wrong on that.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
But there we go.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I've had I had someone come on recently or a
while back now that talked about being in the police force.
And he tells me this, I think it's saying. Was
Joseph I think was his name. He came on and
shared just one police story that about a child gotten
involved in a shooting, and it was just like and

(39:11):
it was great. I love how I got checked on air,
but he he was just it was just such a
huge impactful story about that. And then and then I
go around and have someone come on here and talk
about weed for fifty minutes.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It was and the and then the wrong that either
listen to. It's an interesting story, I think from the
first responders aspect, because like people don't realize like how
much shit they go through on a daily basis. Man,
Like I don't think people enough people ask about their
mental deether man, especially EMTs, just think about it like
they they get hit with so much shit every day,
Like they're dealing with all this shit constantly. But you know,

(39:44):
no one does any self checks on them and things
like that too. But it's it's been crazy, man. I've
had some people outside you know that come in. I've
had a couple of rocks. A couple of musicians come
on too, which is fun because it's always nice to
have some different respectives. One girl, actually, she so the
lead singer a band called Haunt Her. She came on
and we found out that she had BPD. We know,
and I didn't know this beforehand. She was a big

(40:06):
mental health advocate too, because she when I messaged her,
I was out living on Instagram. I mess I set
up those commenting like you always do on your favorite
person's posts. Hey listen, what do you think about me?
Be on my podcast? And she said yes, and she
was like the fifteenth episode into the season and I
got her to come on. She has like twenty thousand
followers at the time, and she saw my message and
I was like, holy shit, I'm like, she said yes,

(40:27):
and she was messaging and emailing me real response, and
then when she came on, was the coolest fucking person
I've ever met.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I've had a couple other musicians come on too, like
Bryce from Pretty Suspect. They're out of Eugene, Oregon, and
Bryce and I were talking about his mental health struggles
and he has a partner in his mental health struggle
as well. But you know which kind of worked on
nice Gius. She understood a lot of times when he
was struggling. She knew what she had a better understanding
versus you know a lot of people that don't, you know,
as aspect too. And when Lucy came on, though, Lucy

(40:54):
was just so cool, she was so excited to be there.
I was starttark because I'm like, this woman's got like
half a million downloads a song and she's sitting right
in front of me, and it's probably the most chill
person you've ever met in your life. And then she
revealed us that she had VPD, and she almost told
us what the situatte had caused it too, because you
know a lot of times I BPT comes it's something
there's a traumatic issue, and it's more more common in
women than men. So you know, the fact that she

(41:16):
had it and then she was telling us all this
stuff was really interesting because I don't think she's ever
mentioned it to anybody anywhere else. Sal and she was
a really big mental health advocate too though. But it's
so cool because after that she was like, hey, listen,
reach out if you ever need something. And it's like,
oh shit, they's talking to me, dude. So like I
message her all the time and check in with her
and she checks in on me. So it's it's been
signed so cool doing this show. I think that my

(41:36):
favorite one recently if you haven't had her on yet,
is Gloria Vanderhurst. Let me tell you dude. Yeah, Gloria
crack me the fuck up, dude. She was the coolest
person ever, dude, Like a best selling author that came on.
It just like had me rolling the whole time. She
was just so entertaining to talk to, like the things
she had to say, and I'm just like, oh my god,
this is great.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, you know, well, we we'll understand. And for me
is that a lot of these every guest has come
from Podmatch. I honestly think that if I had not
got reached out, because a lot of people I think
get invited pod Match.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
By the way, we really appreciate you man, y'all doing
great things over there.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It's awesome. I actually had the opportunity to interview Alex,
the founder of it. He came on my show, and
to me, that was a huge accomplishment for me kind of.
I was like, he's kind of he's in my eyes,
the biggest one I've had out here, because I thought
he runs fifteen thousand or so podcasters on here, and

(42:41):
there's so many members on here, and the fact that
he probably gets all these messages a day for him
to come on here and I feel I was like shocked.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm jealous. I'd love to have him one sometime. Definitely,
he'd be great. He was.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
He was phenomenal. He's such so great. We have such
a good friendship now. But it was like weted to
part each other on everything. On Late Dan especially, he
pussed up and I always coming on there already, as
I want to say, the whole company's just been great.
I think it's such a great platform. And he actually
emailed me to be a part of his platform. And

(43:15):
this was kind of a thing where he reached out.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Me a suit brow. It was like a weird email
I got. I don't know how your scenario was like
that too, because in the beginning he had reached out
and said hey, listen, I got this platform, and I
was like, okay, I didn't think anything of it when
he messaged me and it was Alex. And then when
I had a woman named Stephanie Aycock that came on,
she had mentioned pod match again to me, I said,
wait a minute, I think I got an email from
the guy that runs it or something. I didn't think

(43:38):
anything of it at first because I was still starting out,
so like I didn't know what I was doing it,
still getting my chops together and you know, but he's
been really cool though, Like I have can message him.
I message him all the time, emailing him or his
wife will message back all the time to me and
tell me things, you know, and so it's it's so
cool just to see like what he's doing for us,
and now he has that network he's building for us
to try and get us paid to that too, and

(43:59):
I was like, that's pretty fucking cool too, and like
this man is putting all this time in just to
help us out as podcasters. It's like, you know, and
what he does is just he's phenomenal. And his his
show is great too, like listening to his because all
the different tips you can get from them yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He negatives about it. I didn't see anything that was
anyone's sake. Oh, by the way, it's not great or
there's a gotcha part. So I thought, well, maybe I
should just try it. I mean, was it gonna hurt?
And so signed up to it. And I've not had
any complaints. I mean, every guess I've I don't hear
have come through there. I've had like over one hundred

(45:03):
interviews from people on podmats just in the three four
months I've been on here, and it's I have a
relationship or connectivity with everyone on here, and it's just
such a great platform and it's such a thing where
it's like for podcasters if you're near to podcasting and
are wanting the opportunity to find guests and to find

(45:23):
podcasts to be a guest on, it's a great tool
and it's just a very good program and a.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Good network to be on.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
So me, that's how me and Pete Matt was on there,
which we might have met on Instagram if I'm not mistaken,
I think.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
We were on We probably did there. I'm in a
lot of places, man, I think you know, I I
love Podmatch, So man, ever, since I joined, I've had
nothing but great and nothing that a great time. I
think everybody have met. I bet so many cool people.
Massimo Werecott. He's actually one of the most recent ones.
I bet he he was really cool too. I think
them about the buddy of mining. The two of them

(45:58):
as just been blazing the trails together. I've met so
many different people have known each other too. It's funny
because I got people when I suggest I was all
the way, all the time, and eybody as a podcast
will exist, and if you're gonna interview guests, most definitely
go to pod match for this. For the money you
spend for it, it's worth it. You get the recognition,
you get these other people you get connected to. And
I said, you know, I'll start suggesting people. I actually

(46:18):
have a group that I used to I put everything into.
I'll put all my guests and like, hey, listen, have
you all had this person on? And we'll all compare notes.
And one of them actually in there is actually the
host of the shit that goes on her head, Gretchen.
She she's got like two point five million downloads and
shit like that. Though she's fucking cool as fucked. Oh dude,
she it was great.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I had her as a guest on my show, and
I won't be a guest on her show next year.
It was gonna be a while.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, she said she's off to like November twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Sixth or yeah, I think I'm coming on August. But
she came on my show and we had like a
pre interview too.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Great. Yeah, I love Gretch and she's awesome. No, I agree, man,

(47:17):
that's what I asked too.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I said, I said, okay, And so every episode Dan
has had them as like a sponsor for it. Gave
them a good word. I put it at the beginning
of each episode, and it just kind of shows how
supportive and how great they are.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I reached out to my ass and that too. So listen,
do you want a sponsor like I don't even want
etherlity do anything other than just say to sponsor my show.
That's all. That's how I told them. And the least
it was like, well, we could use your affiliate link.
We don't have these sponsorship said okay, all right, I said,
is Alex alright, I see what goes on in these
secret meetings, Alex, Hey guy, what the fuck? Man? No? Anyways,
but I agree, man, it's great. Podcast pod mess has

(47:56):
been great just because the people you meet. Every person
you meet is an opportunity to network, is Mandy Knew.
I have so many different people that I've met over
the years, and it's like, now you can mention my
name to most people and they're like, oh, yeah, I
know Pete for anxiety, and it's like they're like, yeah,
Jay was a really good example of this. So he's like, yeah,
I reach out all these people, I'm at your name
and that legally just said yees. So I don't know

(48:16):
any other questions. I'm like, yeah, that's that's probably gonna
happen a lot, honestly, man. I had a good report
a lot of people. I don't think I've had any
negative interactions with anybody yet to this date that I
know of, you know, and it's it's just been a
great time. I like the little rating system where you
can leave the little reviews and some of the stuff
people leave in there. It's just it's great, man, Like
I would never have met what is it? Doctor Vette Rose.

(48:39):
She's a global global bestseller. She has twenty one and
published titles. Her number her first book is a global
bestseller she came on to probably the coolest lady ever,
like you know, things like that too. But I take
other people off the site too, just because I'm always
interested in other fascinating stories. So I have some other
little things that are coming up actually season threes. For

(49:00):
season three's intro, actually the artist will be on this month.
So and I actually got permission to use the one
I'm using now, which has let me Bleeds is it me?
I got actually permission from the band and they told
me it was okay to use it. I said, listen, hey,
can I use your song for my podcast? I don't
want to copyright issues in case of running these things.
And they're like, oh yeah, man, go ahead, why not?
And they were a band actually found on TikTok Now
they're one there. Guy Eddie Bleeds is just the main

(49:22):
lead thinger. I want him to come on and talk
to me. But it's just been you know, it's just
hard sometimes connecting with some people sometimes, so that's one
of my goals. But you know, this whole thing is
opportunity to be great. Man. I had one of my
top five guests I wanted was doctor Jen Bellinger came on.
She's a worlding out expert in BPD and everything like that.
She was actually one of the first videos I started
watching when I started doing research for my podcast. Just different,

(49:43):
you know, it's different things. When I found out what
BPD was, I looked into and I was like, hey,
what's this you know? And I had her on so man,
it's it's just been great ever since then. Man, it's
just been a great time. So well, Noah, we're at
the fun part of the show. If you ever watch
one of these episodes, I'm actually gonna quote and coin
Gretchen's actual question she asked me, darn interviews. She said
to me, what the same thing I'm about to ask,
you know what if your month dolt had a song?

(50:03):
What would that song be? That's a good way, I'm
telling you, bro it stole this whenever since she said
it to me, I'm like, Rob's stealing this. I'm running
with it now. I absolutely love it. What's the first
song that comes to mind?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
The first one that came to my mind was Breathing
by Ariana Grande, But then Avril Levine's Complicated came up,
and I think that would be more, that would make
more than.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
We've we've had some interesting answers. One girl came up
their own song for She's like, I can't think with
the name of the songs, but that's how it goes.
That's great.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I've thought about for my show for next season, start
asking people like one song that they really like and
I'm trying to think about maybe making a playlist about it,
and yeah, all that on there. So that's kind of
one of the things I've been thinking.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
The soothing sounds of the Lethal Venom podcast. Here's our playlist.
I started doing that though. For mine, I had the
different bands I've had on because I've had a Live
and Stone, Pretty Suspect like Live's Loss was another one,
and then I had Haunter on, which was, like I said,
Lucy came on from the band. So I have a
playlist out there of just the people I've been on
the show. Now, like I said, Eddie is the one

(51:39):
I really wanted to come on to because this song
is it Me is actually the theme song for this
season of the podcast. So you know, it was pretty
cold though, man, But I look forward to seeing that though. Man.
But you know, I do have on more question for
you though, if you could break the stigma about mental health,
anything that you hear out there that you like, you
read and you're just like, can you please stop? I
just want to choke you out kind of thing. What
would it be?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I think the one thing that media tends to really
do a poor job at is what really goes on
in a medical office when it's like a therapy, psychiatrist
or anything. Most people tend to think that it's full
of crazy people. And what I really want people to
know is that TV shows and movies do not accurately
depict it. Movies, what they do is they show someone

(52:21):
that has multicolored hair, someone that's talking to an imaginary friend,
someone that's just freaking out in the corner, when reality
it's a mom with two kids, a man that just
cut off a nine to five job, a sixteen year
old high schooler that has good grades. That's the kind
of office that you see. It's everyday people that you

(52:42):
would never think had something wrong. That's what I want
people to know is that it's not for crazy people.
It's for anyone, and that it's not who all.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
It's not sup a.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Psychiatrist or therapy office. It's not right that wall of
well TV shows it this way. That's one thing that
media does a really bad job of trying to portray.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, you know, and with that being said, you know,
there is a movie coming out. I'm not sure when
it's coming out yet, but it's called Bloom, which is
written by Stephanie Kock. We's been a formal guest on
the show. She's trying to change that aspect of how
people look at mental health. That's the idea to move.
The movie's idea is basically, change the way you're looking
at how mental health is and bring it to a
different light. That way people can can see it and
understand it from a different aspect. With that being said, though, Noah,

(53:26):
thank you so much for being here. Man, where can
they find the lethal venom? Are you on? Pretty much everything?
What do you drop? What do you do all this stuff?
Let them let them know where to find you. Let
the people know where to find you.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Man, soe Lethal venoms available wherever you get podcasts from.
It's on all the major platforms Spotify, Apple, Amazon, iHeartRadio, YouTube, Pandora.
It's essentially and everywhere. So we feel a free to
just check it out. It's pretty much there, and they
want to follow me on social media Introgram and take
tot lethal podcasts on there and Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
It's No A's podcasts, so feel free to follow those

(53:57):
platforms to get updates about one new episode. Shop always
to post teasers of episodes, a little bit of everything
for there. But yeah, that's where as Ill found found
out and it's just been growing. I can't wait to
have it continue to grow. But I have so much
appreciated my time being on here.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Definitely, man, I appreciate you coming and talk to me.
It's always great to look to meet other podcasters and
hear what they're doing and things like that. Man, and
to find out we've had so many similar guests and great.
But with that being said, guys are gonna wrap up
this episode of Peete for So Anxiety. I'm peak for anxiety.
I mean everything from X Sound to TikTok, I'm on Spotify,
I A'll be down to iHeartRadio. And as always say,
it costs nothing nothing to be kind to somebody. One
kind act you could do could save some flight. For hell,

(54:34):
you can even make their day. I'm peak for so Anxiety,
signing off saying, don't ask how your day is today,
say hey, how's your mental health today, Tegrity, in my word,
wasn't