July 7, 2023 • 41 mins
Join Mariah and Jason in this empowering episode of The Mariah Effect as they discuss Mariah's decision to explore alternative treatments and lifestyle changes in her cancer journey. Discover the importance of building healthy relationships, inspired by the beloved show Steven Universe. Tune in for an episode filled with resilience, self-discovery, and the pursuit of overall well-being.
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So I've been like super self consciousabout what I look like on camera,
but I didn't know that you didn'tcare. I didn't care today because I
thought, why have I been caringwhen we're not even doing the videos?
But but and yet, look atyour hair and you look so nice?
What are you talking about? Lookat my hair? Yeah, your hair
looks like freaking styled Um, okayyou ready. Yeah, I'm not about
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to fall asleep. But it's notbecause you're not interesting. Is because I
slept four hours last night. Whydid you only sleep four hours last night?
I don't know. I just hadto get super early for a meeting
as a plate. That's so bad. I slept last night more than I
normally do. You don't know howtired like? When you feel tired,
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you feel like you know better thananybody what it feels like to feel tired.
Yeah, okay, I thought,let's say hi, everybody. Welcome
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to them Maria A Fact Podcast.I'm Mariah and I'm Jason, and here
we are New Week, New US. Jason is back and read need to
record Yeah yeah definitely yeah at thehome studio. But um, we'll do
what we can. Oh mysterious.Yeah what How has your time away from
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home been good? I went tothe beach, I went to a wedding
in Asheville, North Carolina. Iwent to Washington, d C. Um,
now I'm in California, been onthe road. I can't help but
when I think of Washington, DC, just think of Hamilton. But that's
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because I'm musical theater mind. Ofcourse, you just made it like you
just alluded to Hamilton before we jumpedon the call, and I know that's
why I said it. Now hesaid you weren't going to go full Hamilton.
I thought that was so funny.Well, yeah, because, like
Hamilton is the protagonist of the story, but he's kind of unfavorable by the
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end. Not that I'm you know, having wild selecious affairs and not willing
to share it with my wife beforeI write about it. But no,
yeah, we were talking about thatbecause I was talking about dealing with like
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all sorts of medical stuff and tryingto figure out what to share, what
not to share. But well,speaking of like travels, I mean,
while I was traveling, you've beendoing your own sort of travels through all
of that. Why don't you whydon't you tell us about it? Travel
through emotional crap Sunday. I'm justkidding. I did a poll, by
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the way, and people said thatthey liked the crap storm Sunday way better
than the stress cake. Wow.Yeah, I don't particularly like either,
but let's let's do it. You'vebeen outvoted. But yeah, so I've
been dealing. I talked about iton a couple episodes ago when I was
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so low and talking about just howI had decisions that need to be made
and like the pressure that comes withmaking decisions about your medical well being.
I have come to a decision basically, I was trying to decide whether or
not to continue with chemotherapy, justbecause chemotherapy has been causing so many issues
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with my health, just because ofmy lupus, my autoimmune disease, and
it's just kind of complicated with allof that stuff because lupus is something that
flares up when I'm stressed out.It's something that flares up when I get
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sick easily, like I've talked aboutit before, and so with chemotherapy,
like that's basically something that's put inyour body to kill the cancer, but
in doing so, it kills youa little bit too. And my lupus
is kind of like not understanding howto deal with that and ends up hurting
me even more. So I havemade the decision to stop doing chemo and
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going with some other options. There'ssome clinical trials that I'm looking into and
some you know, different ways oflike habits. There's been some people who've
reached out to me and told meabout some health things like our diet,
things that I could do that havebeen beneficial for other people in their lives,
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and so I'm kind of on thatroad and looking into that sort of
thing. Nothing is definite for sure, but I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that
I'm not going to be doing chemotherapyright now. I've also been put onto
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the transplant list, which is goodbecause it just means that if I do
that, then I can do thetransplant along with chemotherapy, which will be
a lot easier to manage, justbecause it'll be giving me healthy blood and
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um like the healthy cells instead ofwhat I have right now, which are
not healthy. But uh yeah,so those that's the decision I was trying
to struggle with and work through anddoing it well. Uh Jason was traveling,
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um but I yeah, I've madethat decision, and UM, I'll
talk about some things that I'm changingin my diet and things like that as
I do it. But that's thethat's the road that I've taken. Well,
we've talked a lot about it,um, and so you've shared with
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me more, um, some ofyour thought processes and all that goes into
it. Like one of the thingsthat you talk to me about that felt
really true was just wanting to likelive fully, you know, in your
best health now. Um. Andyou know, I don't know if you
wanted to, like you can sharethat or not, but I just thought
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that was so true, Like amidsteverything, I thought that was like a
really important decision point for you.Yeah, I feel like, um,
you know, and I this isnot in me any This is not me
in any way saying that it isnot the option for anyone. Like I'm
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specifically talking about my journey and howI feel for myself. I don't want
anybody to ever listen to something thatI have to say and think like that
that's the only way to do something, because I think that's something a lot
of people do these days. ButI just want to be clear that this
is me talking about myself. Butwith chemotherapy, it just is so difficult
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to do anything when you are doingchemotherapy. Like the fact that I've been
able to do this podcast while I'vebeen doing it has been like truly a
miracle because I do the chemotherapy,I have the session, I come home,
and I'm just drained of energy.I any energy I have, I
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used to throw up. I usedto like try and eat something so that
I'm not just fully like empty andmy body. I don't get out of
bed, which causes a bunch oflike problems in itself to never leave your
bed or to never get up anexercise and walk around, and it just
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takes away so much of your abilityto move your body that it takes away
a lot of options, like beingable to go out to a concert or
something like am I going to beable to walk down the stairs to go
to my seat? Am I goingto be able to get out of there?
Like? Regardless of having the wheelchairsituation, like I'm not strong enough
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to wheel myself anywhere, so Ihave to have somebody with me who's willing
to wheel me, which not thatthere's not somebody that's willing to do that
it just feels like such a hassle. And I'm the type of person that
doesn't want to put hassle on anybodyjust so that I can enjoy having a
good time, just so that Ican live my life the way that I
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want to live. And I justthink that it's been going on for so
long, for so many months,that I am tired of doing that,
and I want to continue to fightfor my life, but I want to
do it in a way that stilllets me live while I'm doing it,
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and I just think that that's notchemotherapy right now. Yeah, And in
this we've talked a little bit aboutlike what's important to you now. So
you mentioned diet and things like that, but there was some other stuff you
listed, Like you really want toYou're gonna explore some options, but then
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there's also just like things you wantto prioritize with because you'll have more energy
right without the chemo. Yeah,Like what do you imagine prioritizing now?
I think that I've always had issueswith, like with exercise and things like
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that, and so I think thatbeing able to have the time and being
able to live in a place where, um, you know, outside isn't
like boiling hot like Laum. Ifeel like being able to focus on my
physical self. I guess you couldsay, I don't know what people say
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for it, but being able tofocus on like my physical self, being
able to meditate, do more meditations, and listening to what my body needs.
The diet exercise I used to reallylove. I love. I loved
living on the coast because I lovethe ocean, and with that, I
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love swimming. So I don't know, maybe I could get more into swimming,
you know, at like the gymor a swimming pool or whatever,
and use that as a way tokind of get some exercise. I don't
know. I just need to findways to be able to not push my
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body too hard but also move aroundand you know, do things I love
to do. I was talking toMallory's brother Lucas, and he wants to
go to this for out. It'scalled Laguna Maybe I don't know. It's
an amusement park that's here in Utah, and the last time we went was
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kind of my indicator that I wassick, that there was something wrong.
But I had so much fun thatday with Lucas, even though I was
so tired, and so like theentire time, like if I work myself
up a little bit, like kindof strengthen some of the things that are
more weak right now than I thinkthat I would be able to go with
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him and be a little bit lesstired. And also I'm not opposed to
bringing, you know, the walkerthat I have and taking that with me
so that I still am walking onmy own, but like not putting too
much stress on my body, soI'm still getting exercise. It's just kind
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of like a modified version or whateverthey say, what can We're focused on
what can all of us do tohelp you or support you. I think
that one of the hardest parts ofsharing so much of my life online has
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been people you know, bless you, all of you, but people reaching
out to me and giving me theiropinion on what they think I should do
or how they think I should dosomething, or what helped them or the
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person that they know that they wantto get me in contact with. And
of course, like there's exceptions tothis of people that I've gone out of
my way to ask for help.But I think the best thing you can
do is just like words of encouragementrather than advice. Because I already have
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so many people doctors and people thatI canfide in right now that are telling
me their thoughts and opinions and likeways to help and all that stuff.
So the best thing for me rightnow, because it can get really overwhelming
when I have a hundred or morepeople telling me their thoughts, would be
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just words of encouragement, like youknow, a simple like I believe in
you, or you can do this, because I have a really hard time
with thinking that I can do thingsin general, So those sorts of things
are really helpful, and only ifyou mean it, but that is more
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helpful than advice for me. It'sgreat that you know that you know what
you should do. I'm just kiddingyou, see how Like it didn't register
to me that you're making a jokebecause you're one of the people that I
like confide in, and so whenyou give me advice, it's a little
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bit different. But that was funny. That was good. I actually have
an idea of what you should do. I think you should tell us what
is on your mind this week?Oh you know, I like, aside
from all of this complicated chemo doctormedical decision making things, I have probably
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cried or laughed or felt like seriousemotional whatever. Only a few other times
with like family and stuff, buta majority of the time either reading a
book that I shouldn't be reading orwatching Stephen Universe, a children's show.
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I love that you love a varietyof creations, and I can't claim I
can't claim you know, finding thison my own. I We've talked about
before, how we watched, howI've watched Fruits Basket. I was like
showing it to Mac because it's oneof my favorite animes. And so once
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that was finished, because it's onlythree seasons, my partner Mac was like,
Okay, we're gonna watch something thatI want to watch. And I
said, okay, that's fine,and Max said okay, we're gonna watch
Stephen Universe. And I said,okay, what's that And they said children's
show on Cartoon Network and I said, okay, that's okay, sure,
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and we start watching the show andit just completely blew my mind away.
Like the first few episodes, Iwas a little bit like, what have
I gotten myself into? But aftera while, like I started to see
the complexities that are in the show, and it just it really called out
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to The reason why I enjoy artand media and things like that is because
I like finding things that I canrelate to so I don't feel alone.
And there were so many emotions thatare talked about on the show that are
things that everyone feels at one timeor another. And it's not in this
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like kid way or anything like that. It's like a real genuine way.
And it just kind of blew mymind. Well, you said you want
to talk about Stephen Universe and thatit was a kid's cartoon, and I
was sort of like, all right, that's what you want to do.
You're the boss, right, Butthen I then I googled it and here's
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this like Rolling Stone article and thetitle is the Radical Kindness of Stephen Universe
and why the animated series is thefantasy superhero story we all need right now?
Yeah? Why is it the fantasysuperhero story we all need right now?
Well, like, just like aquick understanding of the show, it's
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got this main character, the titularcharacter, Stephen Universe, who is just
this little It's kind of it givesme the same vibes of fruits Basket and
that the main character is just thislittle ball of sunshine and happiness and kindness
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that goes around and finds people whoare weighted down by emotion or weighted down
by obligation or you know, whothey think they should be, and Stephen
goes, you know, you couldbe whoever you want to be, and
these are things that you could likeaccept into your life that'll make it,
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you know, not just so seriousor so complicated. It doesn't have to
be so complicated and changes their life, you know what I mean. So
I think that's one of the thingsthat I love about it, and I
think that's why that article is labeledwhat did you say, radical kindness.
Yeah. It tackles some serious likehuman emotions like no other kids show I
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think I've ever watched. And itis so good in teaching like how to
handle certain emotions and how to handlecertain situations, and it does so in
such a beautiful way that is representedover the course of the entire show,
the entire plot. So it's goodat teaching kids how to you know,
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pay attention to something for longer thana short like little episode, because it
matters throughout a plot line. Soit starts to get kids used to an
idea of like, you know,things not just being a ten minute,
fifteen minute episode of something and thenthat's it for the storyline, like they
actually apply over time, like areal adult TV show does. So I
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think that that's one of the thingsabout it. I like to this piece
around kids in entertainment. Why isthat important to you? I just think,
you know, like I myself amnot a parent, but I think
that in a lot of ways,I've been a guardian or a caretaker for
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a lot of kids in my life. Kids need something to teach them how
to interact, how to have relationshipsin general, not just with their parents,
not just with their friends, butalso with themselves and their own emotions.
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And I think that a lot ofparents have in the past and today
have a hard time teaching those thingsbecause they were never taught those things and
immature way. And this show isso good at doing that that it speaks
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to me because I think there areso many instances where we are quick to
judge other people and judge how somebodydoes something. But this is a way
for kids to learn those things andbe able to teach their parents in a
way that's kind and caring, andthat in itself changes those relationships and changes
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how we react with each other,which changes everything everywhere, all at once.
And I'm just kidding. That's anothermovie magically. Well, it's funny
you're talking about. That reminds meof a couple of years ago when Vin,
Jenny's son was younger, my sister'sson. It's my nephew. He
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I was visiting for Christmas and hehad a cartoon on with Duke Kaboom.
I think, is that toy story. I don't know which character. Duke
Kaboom was a character in a movie. And Vin was on the floor imitating
this character, like writing his littlelike tricycle doing the same move the Duke
Kaboom did and I and it wasso funny. And I'll send you the
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video because you'll like it. ButI remember thinking at that time, like,
wow, like we absorbed so muchwhen we're little. We learn and
emulate so much, And wouldn't itbe cool if if if kids were learning
and emulating things that were helpful.Yeah, I think they're And like one
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of the things that I've realized whenI was especially in like the later years
of high school, when my littlebrother was getting to an age where he
was starting to watch television, likehe was only three or four maybe,
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but he was starting to watch kidsshows and things like that. And one
of the kids shows that and Idon't I don't want to I don't want
to hate. I don't want tohate on it necessarily, but I do
want to say that I don't likethe show, and if you do,
then that's okay. But he waswatching the show called Kaiu and it the
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song very cute, very cute andcatchy song. I would find myself singing
it all the time. But Ifeel like that show shows this kid who
and this is a theme with alot of kids shows, is it shows
this kid who reacts and behaves poorlyand then goes through this like emotional whatever
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and realizes that what they did waswrong. And at the end of the
episode they're like, Okay, thatwas wrong. And then the next episode
they reacted in a similar fashion aboutsomething else, and it happens over and
over and over again, to thepoint where I feel like the point of
the show is to teach kids,you know, oh, this is a
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bad behavior, don't do that,or this is a bad way of acting,
don't do that. But then showsanother episode where the character does the
same thing again, and it's likethe character never learns the lesson long term,
it's just in that short term episodethey learned the episode, and so
it teaches kids that, like,okay, to act this way in this
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situation was bad for Kyue, Buthe's acting this way again. And I'm
not saying that these kids are havingthese complex like thoughts. But at the
same time, kids learn so muchmore and take in so much more than
I think people give them credit for. And I think that the way that
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that show in particular, and manyshows like it, just sets these kids
up to think that it doesn't matterbecause he just does the same things over
again. So it's just like aslap on the wrist. It's mine.
And I think the beauty of ashow like Stephen Universe shows that you learn
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from those mistakes and move forward,and if something similar happens again, it's
in different circumstances and they remember frombefore, like in this episode for the
most part, like Stephen remembers,oh, you know what, this is
kind of similar to how I wasacting this time, and this hurt this
person's feelings. I need to reactdifferent or in the opposite of like Stephen
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growing up and seeing another character actingthat way and remembering when he felt that
same way and thinks, oh,if there had been someone to be with
me to explain this to me,then it would have been better. And
then he explains to the character like, Hey, I know you're upset,
I know you're hurt, but youknow we need to we need to deal
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with it this way, or youcan just tell me how you feel instead
of doing this way. And Ithink that's so much better, like as
a way to teach kids. Andyou know, kids are our future matters.
Even if I don't have kids,when I do, they're gonna be
watching Stephen Universe, that's for sure. I love it. Or you're gonna
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be making shows like Stephen Universe.Maybe maybe maybe, but yeah, I
think that that's really important. AndI've I've always cared about things, um
like what goes into um kids' hands, what goes in front of their faces?
You know, no, totally onum. So you were you were
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telling us that like this has beengiving you a ton of joy, and
you've also been doing it in aton of crying and everything else. Okay,
so I want to know more.Are you're gonna give me more?
Yeah? Of course, I'll tellyou. So, So let's talk about
a character in the show that youlove. Oh, okay, there is
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I mean Stephen is, you know, the titular character. And I always
fell in love with the main protagonistof the show. But I feel like
there's a character that I didn't likeat first when I started watching the show,
Like I think I said out loudto Mac, this is my least
favorite character, but by the end, I think they have the best character
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arc, well, one of thebest character arcs in the show, and
their name is Pearl. It's oneof the characters that's kind of was friends
with Stephen's mom and was entrusted withkind of teaching Steven how to be a
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gem and fighting and stuff. Butthere's this character, Pearl, who is
just very bossy and very you know, type a like character always needs things
to be done in a certain wayand doesn't like when things are messy or
whatever. And there's an episode whereSteven's friend Connie, who by the way,
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is twelve and a half years oldand Stephen's fourteen, but Connie decides
that she wants to learn how tofight because she wants to be able to
be an active participant in the fightingwith Stephen. She doesn't ever want to
feel like she isn't a part ofthe the be isn't going to be able
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to help, Like, she wantsto be able to help and be a
part of things, And so shewants to learn how to fight, and
so they go to Pearl to teachher how to fight. And the backstory
of Pearl is that she was nevermade to be a fighter, she was
never made to be a part ofthings like that. She's kind made to
be basically like an assistant of sorts, and so she had to learn how
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to fight on her own. Sowhen she's teaching Connie, and the show
is also very like musical, likethere's musical devers in it, so of
course I love it. But inthe show, there's this scene where she's
teaching Connie how to fight and they'resinging this song where you kind of realize
that Pearl was in love with Stephen'smom, like would have done anything for
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his mom, would have given anythingfor his mom, And in that song
kind of instills this idea onto Connieof like, you should do anything for
Stephen, even if that means sacrificingyour own life, which is heavy stuff
to tell twelve year old. Soof course she's like, yeah, I'll
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do anything. I'll give up myhuman life because it's small and insignificant in
comparison to like Steven's life, whichis going to go on for thousands of
years, and like he's so importantand YadA YadA, and I'm nothing.
And she like teaches this to Connieand Steven's kind of like what, no,
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don't know, don't do that,and realizes that this is how Pearl
feels, is that she needs tosacrifice herself in order to be able to
help Steven, be able to helpwho she used to help, which is
Stephen's mom. And it just likekind of clicks, like as an audience
member for me, that she's alittle bit more complicated, she has more
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layers to her than just being thistype a bossy, kind of snooze fest
character. And I really liked thatthe show gave her that depth, and
over time she grows more and moreinto realizing that she does matter, that
she has more to give than justto be you know, used, you
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know what I mean. And Ithink that that's such a good thing to
teach kids. It's so brilliant andit's not as if this is a concept
that's going to go over kids headsor anything like that, like maybe more
of the complex parts of it.But I think it's a good lesson to
teach kids, because it's like she'steaching a twelve year old how to do
that. And Steven goes, ohwo whoo whoo, whoa, whoa,
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whoa whoa, Like we all matterhere, we all are worthy of like
existing and of not just like throwingaway our lives for someone. Like life
is more complicated than that. Andit's really good. I enjoy that about
it. That's really good. That'sreally good. Any other characters, like
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beyond the scope of what you justtold us, Yeah, there's um,
I mean, there's so many charactersin the show. Should we not?
We not pull up and show everybody? Yeah show um you should show pearl
um because she kind of looks likea she kind of looks like one of
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those characters that you're like, oh, yeah, I don't I don't love
her. Here we go here,here, this looks like a whole cast
and crew here. That's a lotof cast members in that. Yeah,
look at all of these cast members. Let's see. Here we go.
Yeah, so Pearls standing Steven's frontand center and Pearl's kind of standing behind
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him to the to his left.She's got like this orange hair that comes
to a point, and she's alittle bit taller. Um, very thin
she um yeah, she's she comesa long way. This is a picture
from um kind of this second show. So the so Stephen universe has seen
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even universe as the first show,and that's five seasons of a show,
and then they had this movie thatgoes into more detail about his mom's past,
and then there's another show that's justone singular season, and this picture
is from that second show. Amazing. Steven's not afraid of the spotlight?
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Is he? No? But it'sfunny. I was talking to Mac about
it yesterday, and because we werewatching it yesterday, I'm not finished with
this fun season of the show orthis other show of the second show of
the show, but we were watchingit and Mac told me the entire time
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that we were watching the original showthat you know, it's cute and happy
or whatever. And Mac was like, it just kind of gets like a
little bit more and more and morecomplex as the seasons go on. And
I was like, but Steven's gonnabe okay, right, like nobody dies
or anything, and he goes,no, nobody, no, nobody dies.
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But I mean it's I don't knowif Steven's okay. It's like,
well, what does that mean?Spoiler spoiler alert maybe yeah, spoiler alert.
Um, Stephen just kind of getslike there's just so much more and
more weight that's push put onto Stephenover the course of the show, more
and more realizations about his mom's pastand um, things that have happened and
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all that sort of thing, andhe just kind of by the time it's
you know, Stephen Universe Future,which is the second show, Um,
it's really just you know, Stephenneeds some therapy. I think is what
that second show is telling us,is that Stephen just needs some therapy and
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some emotional support because he's been througha lot. Yeah. Um, but
yeah, I think that a lotof the cast members in the show,
and there's not very many child parentssituations because Stephen's mom is gone because she
had to be so that he couldexist. But he does have a dad
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who's human and does such a goodjob of being like kind of a laid
back dad but also shows how tojust love your son, like just love
your kids. He's not very mucha disciplinarian in any sort of way,
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which is, you know, becauseof the circumstances, probably best for Stephen
and not best for human children.But he just shows how to love and
care about your kids in a waythat is so genuine and so special and
makes him one of the most lovablecharacters in the show. That's great,
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that's fun. I love that youtold this about this. Yeah, so
good living and a lot going onfor you. If people want to follow
along on your journey stay in touch, how do they do that? Um,
there's all sorts of ways. Um, you could follow any of the
social media pages where I post picturesand things like that from my every day
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and links to that are on thewebsite, which is the dash Mariah dash
effect dot com. And on therewe have all sorts of links to you
know, show notes, so youcan read a little bit more about the
episodes, um, any resources thatmight we might have on it on there.
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Um. And then there's also alink to the Patreon so that you
can join that and be able totalk to all sorts of people about Um.
You could talk about me, youcan talk about what I was talking
about on the show, like maybeyou've already seen even Universe and you want
to talk to some other people andget them hyped for the show even more
than I did during this episode orwhatever. Or if you want to see
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bonus content of me and Jason justkind of talking to each other about nothing
and everything, then that's on theretoo. I also do a blog on
there, which I update as oftenas I can, and that goes into
more detail about, you know,my inner thoughts about what I'm thinking about
or what I'm doing that week,or what I did or anything like that.
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So if you want to know more, that's the place to go for
it. And Mariah is a reallygood writer just stuff why those blog posts
are definitely a unedited, uncut versionof my writing. But I'll figure out
how to get more, more,better, more finalized versions of writings and
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poetry and stuff out there. I'mworking on it. And Maria is also
a perfectionist, absolutely overthinker to themax. Well, don't overthink this one.
I think you should take us homefor wrapping up the show. Absolutely.
I just want everybody out there to, you know, try their best
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and everything that they're doing. Imean if you have kids and you're looking
for shows to show them to,you know, teach them more things about
relationships and things like that, justbeing kind to people in your life,
giving people second chances, stuff likethat, then Stephen Universe is definitely a
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really good show to show them andis a show that you can watch yourself
and not find yourself going when isthe show for my kid going to be
over? So that I can getback to something for adults. It's definitely
a show that doesn't give you thosethoughts. So I hope everybody has a
good week and we'll see you nexttime. By all. By h m
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hmm. I love you. Ilove you too well. Talk to you
later, talk to you later.Bye bye mm hmmm
So I've been like super self consciousabout what I look like on camera,
but I didn't know that you didn'tcare. I didn't care today because I
thought, why have I been caringwhen we're not even doing the videos?
But but and yet, look atyour hair and you look so nice?
What are you talking about? Lookat my hair? Yeah, your hair
looks like freaking styled Um, okayyou ready. Yeah, I'm not about
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to fall asleep. But it's notbecause you're not interesting. Is because I
slept four hours last night. Whydid you only sleep four hours last night?
I don't know. I just hadto get super early for a meeting
as a plate. That's so bad. I slept last night more than I
normally do. You don't know howtired like? When you feel tired,
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you feel like you know better thananybody what it feels like to feel tired.
Yeah, okay, I thought,let's say hi, everybody. Welcome
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to them Maria A Fact Podcast.I'm Mariah and I'm Jason, and here
we are New Week, New US. Jason is back and read need to
record Yeah yeah definitely yeah at thehome studio. But um, we'll do
what we can. Oh mysterious.Yeah what How has your time away from
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home been good? I went tothe beach, I went to a wedding
in Asheville, North Carolina. Iwent to Washington, d C. Um,
now I'm in California, been onthe road. I can't help but
when I think of Washington, DC, just think of Hamilton. But that's
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because I'm musical theater mind. Ofcourse, you just made it like you
just alluded to Hamilton before we jumpedon the call, and I know that's
why I said it. Now hesaid you weren't going to go full Hamilton.
I thought that was so funny.Well, yeah, because, like
Hamilton is the protagonist of the story, but he's kind of unfavorable by the
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end. Not that I'm you know, having wild selecious affairs and not willing
to share it with my wife beforeI write about it. But no,
yeah, we were talking about thatbecause I was talking about dealing with like
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all sorts of medical stuff and tryingto figure out what to share, what
not to share. But well,speaking of like travels, I mean,
while I was traveling, you've beendoing your own sort of travels through all
of that. Why don't you whydon't you tell us about it? Travel
through emotional crap Sunday. I'm justkidding. I did a poll, by
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the way, and people said thatthey liked the crap storm Sunday way better
than the stress cake. Wow.Yeah, I don't particularly like either,
but let's let's do it. You'vebeen outvoted. But yeah, so I've
been dealing. I talked about iton a couple episodes ago when I was
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so low and talking about just howI had decisions that need to be made
and like the pressure that comes withmaking decisions about your medical well being.
I have come to a decision basically, I was trying to decide whether or
not to continue with chemotherapy, justbecause chemotherapy has been causing so many issues
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with my health, just because ofmy lupus, my autoimmune disease, and
it's just kind of complicated with allof that stuff because lupus is something that
flares up when I'm stressed out.It's something that flares up when I get
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sick easily, like I've talked aboutit before, and so with chemotherapy,
like that's basically something that's put inyour body to kill the cancer, but
in doing so, it kills youa little bit too. And my lupus
is kind of like not understanding howto deal with that and ends up hurting
me even more. So I havemade the decision to stop doing chemo and
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going with some other options. There'ssome clinical trials that I'm looking into and
some you know, different ways oflike habits. There's been some people who've
reached out to me and told meabout some health things like our diet,
things that I could do that havebeen beneficial for other people in their lives,
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and so I'm kind of on thatroad and looking into that sort of
thing. Nothing is definite for sure, but I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that
I'm not going to be doing chemotherapyright now. I've also been put onto
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the transplant list, which is goodbecause it just means that if I do
that, then I can do thetransplant along with chemotherapy, which will be
a lot easier to manage, justbecause it'll be giving me healthy blood and
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um like the healthy cells instead ofwhat I have right now, which are
not healthy. But uh yeah,so those that's the decision I was trying
to struggle with and work through anddoing it well. Uh Jason was traveling,
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um but I yeah, I've madethat decision, and UM, I'll
talk about some things that I'm changingin my diet and things like that as
I do it. But that's thethat's the road that I've taken. Well,
we've talked a lot about it,um, and so you've shared with
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me more, um, some ofyour thought processes and all that goes into
it. Like one of the thingsthat you talk to me about that felt
really true was just wanting to likelive fully, you know, in your
best health now. Um. Andyou know, I don't know if you
wanted to, like you can sharethat or not, but I just thought
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that was so true, Like amidsteverything, I thought that was like a
really important decision point for you.Yeah, I feel like, um,
you know, and I this isnot in me any This is not me
in any way saying that it isnot the option for anyone. Like I'm
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specifically talking about my journey and howI feel for myself. I don't want
anybody to ever listen to something thatI have to say and think like that
that's the only way to do something, because I think that's something a lot
of people do these days. ButI just want to be clear that this
is me talking about myself. Butwith chemotherapy, it just is so difficult
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to do anything when you are doingchemotherapy. Like the fact that I've been
able to do this podcast while I'vebeen doing it has been like truly a
miracle because I do the chemotherapy,I have the session, I come home,
and I'm just drained of energy.I any energy I have, I
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used to throw up. I usedto like try and eat something so that
I'm not just fully like empty andmy body. I don't get out of
bed, which causes a bunch oflike problems in itself to never leave your
bed or to never get up anexercise and walk around, and it just
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takes away so much of your abilityto move your body that it takes away
a lot of options, like beingable to go out to a concert or
something like am I going to beable to walk down the stairs to go
to my seat? Am I goingto be able to get out of there?
Like? Regardless of having the wheelchairsituation, like I'm not strong enough
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to wheel myself anywhere, so Ihave to have somebody with me who's willing
to wheel me, which not thatthere's not somebody that's willing to do that
it just feels like such a hassle. And I'm the type of person that
doesn't want to put hassle on anybodyjust so that I can enjoy having a
good time, just so that Ican live my life the way that I
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want to live. And I justthink that it's been going on for so
long, for so many months,that I am tired of doing that,
and I want to continue to fightfor my life, but I want to
do it in a way that stilllets me live while I'm doing it,
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and I just think that that's notchemotherapy right now. Yeah, And in
this we've talked a little bit aboutlike what's important to you now. So
you mentioned diet and things like that, but there was some other stuff you
listed, Like you really want toYou're gonna explore some options, but then
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there's also just like things you wantto prioritize with because you'll have more energy
right without the chemo. Yeah,Like what do you imagine prioritizing now?
I think that I've always had issueswith, like with exercise and things like
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that, and so I think thatbeing able to have the time and being
able to live in a place where, um, you know, outside isn't
like boiling hot like Laum. Ifeel like being able to focus on my
physical self. I guess you couldsay, I don't know what people say
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for it, but being able tofocus on like my physical self, being
able to meditate, do more meditations, and listening to what my body needs.
The diet exercise I used to reallylove. I love. I loved
living on the coast because I lovethe ocean, and with that, I
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love swimming. So I don't know, maybe I could get more into swimming,
you know, at like the gymor a swimming pool or whatever,
and use that as a way tokind of get some exercise. I don't
know. I just need to findways to be able to not push my
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body too hard but also move aroundand you know, do things I love
to do. I was talking toMallory's brother Lucas, and he wants to
go to this for out. It'scalled Laguna Maybe I don't know. It's
an amusement park that's here in Utah, and the last time we went was
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kind of my indicator that I wassick, that there was something wrong.
But I had so much fun thatday with Lucas, even though I was
so tired, and so like theentire time, like if I work myself
up a little bit, like kindof strengthen some of the things that are
more weak right now than I thinkthat I would be able to go with
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him and be a little bit lesstired. And also I'm not opposed to
bringing, you know, the walkerthat I have and taking that with me
so that I still am walking onmy own, but like not putting too
much stress on my body, soI'm still getting exercise. It's just kind
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of like a modified version or whateverthey say, what can We're focused on
what can all of us do tohelp you or support you. I think
that one of the hardest parts ofsharing so much of my life online has
(13:39):
been people you know, bless you, all of you, but people reaching
out to me and giving me theiropinion on what they think I should do
or how they think I should dosomething, or what helped them or the
(14:00):
person that they know that they wantto get me in contact with. And
of course, like there's exceptions tothis of people that I've gone out of
my way to ask for help.But I think the best thing you can
do is just like words of encouragementrather than advice. Because I already have
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so many people doctors and people thatI canfide in right now that are telling
me their thoughts and opinions and likeways to help and all that stuff.
So the best thing for me rightnow, because it can get really overwhelming
when I have a hundred or morepeople telling me their thoughts, would be
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just words of encouragement, like youknow, a simple like I believe in
you, or you can do this, because I have a really hard time
with thinking that I can do thingsin general, So those sorts of things
are really helpful, and only ifyou mean it, but that is more
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helpful than advice for me. It'sgreat that you know that you know what
you should do. I'm just kiddingyou, see how Like it didn't register
to me that you're making a jokebecause you're one of the people that I
like confide in, and so whenyou give me advice, it's a little
(15:28):
bit different. But that was funny. That was good. I actually have
an idea of what you should do. I think you should tell us what
is on your mind this week?Oh you know, I like, aside
from all of this complicated chemo doctormedical decision making things, I have probably
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cried or laughed or felt like seriousemotional whatever. Only a few other times
with like family and stuff, buta majority of the time either reading a
book that I shouldn't be reading orwatching Stephen Universe, a children's show.
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I love that you love a varietyof creations, and I can't claim I
can't claim you know, finding thison my own. I We've talked about
before, how we watched, howI've watched Fruits Basket. I was like
showing it to Mac because it's oneof my favorite animes. And so once
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that was finished, because it's onlythree seasons, my partner Mac was like,
Okay, we're gonna watch something thatI want to watch. And I
said, okay, that's fine,and Max said okay, we're gonna watch
Stephen Universe. And I said,okay, what's that And they said children's
show on Cartoon Network and I said, okay, that's okay, sure,
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and we start watching the show andit just completely blew my mind away.
Like the first few episodes, Iwas a little bit like, what have
I gotten myself into? But aftera while, like I started to see
the complexities that are in the show, and it just it really called out
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to The reason why I enjoy artand media and things like that is because
I like finding things that I canrelate to so I don't feel alone.
And there were so many emotions thatare talked about on the show that are
things that everyone feels at one timeor another. And it's not in this
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like kid way or anything like that. It's like a real genuine way.
And it just kind of blew mymind. Well, you said you want
to talk about Stephen Universe and thatit was a kid's cartoon, and I
was sort of like, all right, that's what you want to do.
You're the boss, right, Butthen I then I googled it and here's
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this like Rolling Stone article and thetitle is the Radical Kindness of Stephen Universe
and why the animated series is thefantasy superhero story we all need right now?
Yeah? Why is it the fantasysuperhero story we all need right now?
Well, like, just like aquick understanding of the show, it's
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got this main character, the titularcharacter, Stephen Universe, who is just
this little It's kind of it givesme the same vibes of fruits Basket and
that the main character is just thislittle ball of sunshine and happiness and kindness
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that goes around and finds people whoare weighted down by emotion or weighted down
by obligation or you know, whothey think they should be, and Stephen
goes, you know, you couldbe whoever you want to be, and
these are things that you could likeaccept into your life that'll make it,
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you know, not just so seriousor so complicated. It doesn't have to
be so complicated and changes their life, you know what I mean. So
I think that's one of the thingsthat I love about it, and I
think that's why that article is labeledwhat did you say, radical kindness.
Yeah. It tackles some serious likehuman emotions like no other kids show I
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think I've ever watched. And itis so good in teaching like how to
handle certain emotions and how to handlecertain situations, and it does so in
such a beautiful way that is representedover the course of the entire show,
the entire plot. So it's goodat teaching kids how to you know,
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pay attention to something for longer thana short like little episode, because it
matters throughout a plot line. Soit starts to get kids used to an
idea of like, you know,things not just being a ten minute,
fifteen minute episode of something and thenthat's it for the storyline, like they
actually apply over time, like areal adult TV show does. So I
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think that that's one of the thingsabout it. I like to this piece
around kids in entertainment. Why isthat important to you? I just think,
you know, like I myself amnot a parent, but I think
that in a lot of ways,I've been a guardian or a caretaker for
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a lot of kids in my life. Kids need something to teach them how
to interact, how to have relationshipsin general, not just with their parents,
not just with their friends, butalso with themselves and their own emotions.
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And I think that a lot ofparents have in the past and today
have a hard time teaching those thingsbecause they were never taught those things and
immature way. And this show isso good at doing that that it speaks
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to me because I think there areso many instances where we are quick to
judge other people and judge how somebodydoes something. But this is a way
for kids to learn those things andbe able to teach their parents in a
way that's kind and caring, andthat in itself changes those relationships and changes
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how we react with each other,which changes everything everywhere, all at once.
And I'm just kidding. That's anothermovie magically. Well, it's funny
you're talking about. That reminds meof a couple of years ago when Vin,
Jenny's son was younger, my sister'sson. It's my nephew. He
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I was visiting for Christmas and hehad a cartoon on with Duke Kaboom.
I think, is that toy story. I don't know which character. Duke
Kaboom was a character in a movie. And Vin was on the floor imitating
this character, like writing his littlelike tricycle doing the same move the Duke
Kaboom did and I and it wasso funny. And I'll send you the
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video because you'll like it. ButI remember thinking at that time, like,
wow, like we absorbed so muchwhen we're little. We learn and
emulate so much, And wouldn't itbe cool if if if kids were learning
and emulating things that were helpful.Yeah, I think they're And like one
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of the things that I've realized whenI was especially in like the later years
of high school, when my littlebrother was getting to an age where he
was starting to watch television, likehe was only three or four maybe,
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but he was starting to watch kidsshows and things like that. And one
of the kids shows that and Idon't I don't want to I don't want
to hate. I don't want tohate on it necessarily, but I do
want to say that I don't likethe show, and if you do,
then that's okay. But he waswatching the show called Kaiu and it the
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song very cute, very cute andcatchy song. I would find myself singing
it all the time. But Ifeel like that show shows this kid who
and this is a theme with alot of kids shows, is it shows
this kid who reacts and behaves poorlyand then goes through this like emotional whatever
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and realizes that what they did waswrong. And at the end of the
episode they're like, Okay, thatwas wrong. And then the next episode
they reacted in a similar fashion aboutsomething else, and it happens over and
over and over again, to thepoint where I feel like the point of
the show is to teach kids,you know, oh, this is a
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bad behavior, don't do that,or this is a bad way of acting,
don't do that. But then showsanother episode where the character does the
same thing again, and it's likethe character never learns the lesson long term,
it's just in that short term episodethey learned the episode, and so
it teaches kids that, like,okay, to act this way in this
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situation was bad for Kyue, Buthe's acting this way again. And I'm
not saying that these kids are havingthese complex like thoughts. But at the
same time, kids learn so muchmore and take in so much more than
I think people give them credit for. And I think that the way that
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that show in particular, and manyshows like it, just sets these kids
up to think that it doesn't matterbecause he just does the same things over
again. So it's just like aslap on the wrist. It's mine.
And I think the beauty of ashow like Stephen Universe shows that you learn
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from those mistakes and move forward,and if something similar happens again, it's
in different circumstances and they remember frombefore, like in this episode for the
most part, like Stephen remembers,oh, you know what, this is
kind of similar to how I wasacting this time, and this hurt this
person's feelings. I need to reactdifferent or in the opposite of like Stephen
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growing up and seeing another character actingthat way and remembering when he felt that
same way and thinks, oh,if there had been someone to be with
me to explain this to me,then it would have been better. And
then he explains to the character like, Hey, I know you're upset,
I know you're hurt, but youknow we need to we need to deal
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with it this way, or youcan just tell me how you feel instead
of doing this way. And Ithink that's so much better, like as
a way to teach kids. Andyou know, kids are our future matters.
Even if I don't have kids,when I do, they're gonna be
watching Stephen Universe, that's for sure. I love it. Or you're gonna
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be making shows like Stephen Universe.Maybe maybe maybe, but yeah, I
think that that's really important. AndI've I've always cared about things, um
like what goes into um kids' hands, what goes in front of their faces?
You know, no, totally onum. So you were you were
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telling us that like this has beengiving you a ton of joy, and
you've also been doing it in aton of crying and everything else. Okay,
so I want to know more.Are you're gonna give me more?
Yeah? Of course, I'll tellyou. So, So let's talk about
a character in the show that youlove. Oh, okay, there is
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I mean Stephen is, you know, the titular character. And I always
fell in love with the main protagonistof the show. But I feel like
there's a character that I didn't likeat first when I started watching the show,
Like I think I said out loudto Mac, this is my least
favorite character, but by the end, I think they have the best character
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arc, well, one of thebest character arcs in the show, and
their name is Pearl. It's oneof the characters that's kind of was friends
with Stephen's mom and was entrusted withkind of teaching Steven how to be a
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gem and fighting and stuff. Butthere's this character, Pearl, who is
just very bossy and very you know, type a like character always needs things
to be done in a certain wayand doesn't like when things are messy or
whatever. And there's an episode whereSteven's friend Connie, who by the way,
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is twelve and a half years oldand Stephen's fourteen, but Connie decides
that she wants to learn how tofight because she wants to be able to
be an active participant in the fightingwith Stephen. She doesn't ever want to
feel like she isn't a part ofthe the be isn't going to be able
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to help, Like, she wantsto be able to help and be a
part of things, And so shewants to learn how to fight, and
so they go to Pearl to teachher how to fight. And the backstory
of Pearl is that she was nevermade to be a fighter, she was
never made to be a part ofthings like that. She's kind made to
be basically like an assistant of sorts, and so she had to learn how
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to fight on her own. Sowhen she's teaching Connie, and the show
is also very like musical, likethere's musical devers in it, so of
course I love it. But inthe show, there's this scene where she's
teaching Connie how to fight and they'resinging this song where you kind of realize
that Pearl was in love with Stephen'smom, like would have done anything for
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his mom, would have given anythingfor his mom, And in that song
kind of instills this idea onto Connieof like, you should do anything for
Stephen, even if that means sacrificingyour own life, which is heavy stuff
to tell twelve year old. Soof course she's like, yeah, I'll
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do anything. I'll give up myhuman life because it's small and insignificant in
comparison to like Steven's life, whichis going to go on for thousands of
years, and like he's so importantand YadA YadA, and I'm nothing.
And she like teaches this to Connieand Steven's kind of like what, no,
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don't know, don't do that,and realizes that this is how Pearl
feels, is that she needs tosacrifice herself in order to be able to
help Steven, be able to helpwho she used to help, which is
Stephen's mom. And it just likekind of clicks, like as an audience
member for me, that she's alittle bit more complicated, she has more
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layers to her than just being thistype a bossy, kind of snooze fest
character. And I really liked thatthe show gave her that depth, and
over time she grows more and moreinto realizing that she does matter, that
she has more to give than justto be you know, used, you
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know what I mean. And Ithink that that's such a good thing to
teach kids. It's so brilliant andit's not as if this is a concept
that's going to go over kids headsor anything like that, like maybe more
of the complex parts of it.But I think it's a good lesson to
teach kids, because it's like she'steaching a twelve year old how to do
that. And Steven goes, ohwo whoo whoo, whoa, whoa,
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whoa whoa, Like we all matterhere, we all are worthy of like
existing and of not just like throwingaway our lives for someone. Like life
is more complicated than that. Andit's really good. I enjoy that about
it. That's really good. That'sreally good. Any other characters, like
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beyond the scope of what you justtold us, Yeah, there's um,
I mean, there's so many charactersin the show. Should we not?
We not pull up and show everybody? Yeah show um you should show pearl
um because she kind of looks likea she kind of looks like one of
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those characters that you're like, oh, yeah, I don't I don't love
her. Here we go here,here, this looks like a whole cast
and crew here. That's a lotof cast members in that. Yeah,
look at all of these cast members. Let's see. Here we go.
Yeah, so Pearls standing Steven's frontand center and Pearl's kind of standing behind
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him to the to his left.She's got like this orange hair that comes
to a point, and she's alittle bit taller. Um, very thin
she um yeah, she's she comesa long way. This is a picture
from um kind of this second show. So the so Stephen universe has seen
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even universe as the first show,and that's five seasons of a show,
and then they had this movie thatgoes into more detail about his mom's past,
and then there's another show that's justone singular season, and this picture
is from that second show. Amazing. Steven's not afraid of the spotlight?
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Is he? No? But it'sfunny. I was talking to Mac about
it yesterday, and because we werewatching it yesterday, I'm not finished with
this fun season of the show orthis other show of the second show of
the show, but we were watchingit and Mac told me the entire time
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that we were watching the original showthat you know, it's cute and happy
or whatever. And Mac was like, it just kind of gets like a
little bit more and more and morecomplex as the seasons go on. And
I was like, but Steven's gonnabe okay, right, like nobody dies
or anything, and he goes,no, nobody, no, nobody dies.
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But I mean it's I don't knowif Steven's okay. It's like,
well, what does that mean?Spoiler spoiler alert maybe yeah, spoiler alert.
Um, Stephen just kind of getslike there's just so much more and
more weight that's push put onto Stephenover the course of the show, more
and more realizations about his mom's pastand um, things that have happened and
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all that sort of thing, andhe just kind of by the time it's
you know, Stephen Universe Future,which is the second show, Um,
it's really just you know, Stephenneeds some therapy. I think is what
that second show is telling us,is that Stephen just needs some therapy and
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some emotional support because he's been througha lot. Yeah. Um, but
yeah, I think that a lotof the cast members in the show,
and there's not very many child parentssituations because Stephen's mom is gone because she
had to be so that he couldexist. But he does have a dad
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who's human and does such a goodjob of being like kind of a laid
back dad but also shows how tojust love your son, like just love
your kids. He's not very mucha disciplinarian in any sort of way,
(36:35):
which is, you know, becauseof the circumstances, probably best for Stephen
and not best for human children.But he just shows how to love and
care about your kids in a waythat is so genuine and so special and
makes him one of the most lovablecharacters in the show. That's great,
(36:58):
that's fun. I love that youtold this about this. Yeah, so
good living and a lot going onfor you. If people want to follow
along on your journey stay in touch, how do they do that? Um,
there's all sorts of ways. Um, you could follow any of the
social media pages where I post picturesand things like that from my every day
(37:23):
and links to that are on thewebsite, which is the dash Mariah dash
effect dot com. And on therewe have all sorts of links to you
know, show notes, so youcan read a little bit more about the
episodes, um, any resources thatmight we might have on it on there.
(37:45):
Um. And then there's also alink to the Patreon so that you
can join that and be able totalk to all sorts of people about Um.
You could talk about me, youcan talk about what I was talking
about on the show, like maybeyou've already seen even Universe and you want
to talk to some other people andget them hyped for the show even more
than I did during this episode orwhatever. Or if you want to see
(38:08):
bonus content of me and Jason justkind of talking to each other about nothing
and everything, then that's on theretoo. I also do a blog on
there, which I update as oftenas I can, and that goes into
more detail about, you know,my inner thoughts about what I'm thinking about
or what I'm doing that week,or what I did or anything like that.
(38:30):
So if you want to know more, that's the place to go for
it. And Mariah is a reallygood writer just stuff why those blog posts
are definitely a unedited, uncut versionof my writing. But I'll figure out
how to get more, more,better, more finalized versions of writings and
(38:59):
poetry and stuff out there. I'mworking on it. And Maria is also
a perfectionist, absolutely overthinker to themax. Well, don't overthink this one.
I think you should take us homefor wrapping up the show. Absolutely.
I just want everybody out there to, you know, try their best
(39:22):
and everything that they're doing. Imean if you have kids and you're looking
for shows to show them to,you know, teach them more things about
relationships and things like that, justbeing kind to people in your life,
giving people second chances, stuff likethat, then Stephen Universe is definitely a
(39:43):
really good show to show them andis a show that you can watch yourself
and not find yourself going when isthe show for my kid going to be
over? So that I can getback to something for adults. It's definitely
a show that doesn't give you thosethoughts. So I hope everybody has a
good week and we'll see you nexttime. By all. By h m
(41:00):
hmm. I love you. Ilove you too well. Talk to you
later, talk to you later.Bye bye mm hmmm
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