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February 17, 2024 54 mins
Hy McEnery & Christopher Tidmore host Jon Gegenheimer, author of the new historical novel “Churchill v. Hitler”. We talk about the psychology of the great rivals which form of our world, and invite our audience to an event to premier the book on Feb. 25 at the Garden District Book Shop.

From there, we ask the question if there are too many parades each evening during the last week of Carnival—and whether, the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday before Mardi Gras ought to be school holidays.

We conclude by examining the 2024 presidential race through the lens of the loss of two key representative districts in New York and Pennsylvania and cite the fact that African-Americans have closed the employment gap with Caucasians.

We even end talking about the Rex Theme and the life of Lafcadio Hearn!
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Battles. The politicians addressed the digitatorsand magicians. Trust to see the money,
then you don't. There's nothing tofill the holes while they are feeling
their pockets. Biles, the politiciansbouncing down the road. Every body'sition for

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no moment, corruption and its function. It's gone to dake. Divide this
avention. It's lent and recovery.Here on the Founder's Show, Ladies and
gentlemen, as we turn our attentionback to politics, Trump is leading in
the polls, but Republicans lost twokey suburban districts needed in order to win
the presidency. Is this an indication? Also, African Americans have narrowed the

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employment gap with whites, and somepositive news in the post carnival situation.
Is this a long term trend?And more importantly, what's going to be
going on with a to Ukraine.Two Louisiana senators played the key votes in
the Senate votes, and Senator JoeManchin says he's got the perfect running mate.
It's Mitt Romney. All of thatand instant post Carnival looks as to

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whether or not, Ladies and gentlemen, we should be spreading out parades.
All that, But first a lookat Churchhill versus Hitler, a new book
coming out here on the Founder's Show, and an event next Sunday, But
with no further ado, and Godbless all out there. You are now
listening to the Founder's Show, thevoice of the Founding Fathers. You're Founding

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Fathers coming to you deep within theball bowels of those mystic and cryptic and
Marti Gras alligator swarms and way highup on that old liberty Cypress, free
out on the Freedom's branch, theEagles branch is none other. Then you're
spingeary abybout the Republic, draped inSpanish moss, but not for Mardi Gras

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as a political sniper draped and Spanishmoss. Chaplain. Hi, Mike Henry
Christopher tied Morey Roving, a reporter, resident radical moderate and associate editor of
The Louisiana Weekly at Louisiana Weekly dotnet. And Hi, it's not exaggerating.
He actually came in in like huntingbody right now. He stepped my

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combat rattle. It's you know,a lot of combat rattle. Well,
you know they actually have this comment. You know, some people on ash
Wednesday recover from their hangovers. Somepeople get their ashes. What does the
true Louisianaan do he hit? Youknow, he goes hunted the next day
it's the boxing day. Yes,it's like actually I've done that many times.

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That's how like you recover from MaryHunter fishing. I don't know if
that's a you know so. Butnow we're going to actually talk a little
bit about to give it after actionreport about Carnival a little later in the
show and ask a pose a questionas to are we do we have too
many parades in one night? Whatshould we do about it? Spread them

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out? Well? And that's withtheir two answers. One is springing out.
The other one is have we reacheda point where effectively Thursday and Friday
before Marty Grass are now already holidays? In a matter of speaking, it
should we formalize it? We'll talkabout that, ladies and gentlemen in just
a couple of minutes. But wehave to turn a little bit more attention.
What about secret history, high love, secret history, the history you

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never hear? Oh well, yeah, our special conspiracy, theoriest Folks,
our special guest has a new novelout that's postulating a secret history between Churchill
and Hitler. How Churchill figured outthat Hitler was bad news. And it's
a new novel that will be premieringon the twenty fourth of February at the
Garden District Bookshop at a special eventat a home in the Garden District on

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Third Street, Churchill Versus Hitler,And with no further too, let's get
to our special guest joining us herein the Founder's Show is John Gegenheimer.
Other people might know him for hislong work in Republican politics here in Louisiana.
He's the current Clerk of Court andhas been for the Clerk of Court
for the last thirty years of JeffersonParish. But regular listeners of this program
know hi is that he's a wellknown novelist and he's written some fantastic historical

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novels subjects like Sigmund Freud, CharlesDarwzorn, and one of his favorite characters,
Charles Dickens, but he loved buthe's never taken a more ambitious subject
than to get into the psychology ofWinston Churchill and Adolf Hitler. And John,

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welcome to the program. Your newbook, Churchill Versus Hitler is premiering
at a special event held by theGarden District Books Shore on the twenty fourth
of February. It is open tothe public, ladies and gentlemen. You
basically buy the book and you cancome to the event. We're having a
private home in the Garden District onThird Street. And what fascinated me about
this is as you started, butwhen you're in the editing process setting me

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pages of your book, it wasyou were essentially setting up a James Bond
level mystery with that involved Winston churchtrying to encounter one Adolf Hitler and find
out what was really behind the psychology. And it's not surprising since one of
Churchill's proteges was James Bond himself IanFleming, and so set this up for

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us a little bit. It wason the most unlikely of topics, a
golf game, at least for WinstonChurchill. Yes, thank you for having
me, Christopher. First of all, yeah, you have to get into
the minds of Churchill himself and Hitler, two geometrically opposite people in terms of
personality and morals and what have you. And who better to guide Churchill towards

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the start solving the psychology of Hitlerthan Sigmund Freud. It was also a
contemporary. Freud, as people mayknow, had fled Austria in nineteen thirty
eight, settled in London, livedthere for a year, and then he
died tragically of mouthcam lasted a yearafter he had moved into London. It's

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very plausible that Churchill was aware ofhis presence in London and where he lived.
And Churchill of course would assume thatif anybody could get into Hitler's head,
it would be Freud, who wasin a position to psychoanalyze quote unquote
Hitler from a distance while he wasin Austria. And so he goes to

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along with his contemporary, along withhis compadres, among them Bernard Darwin,
a historical character who was also anavid golfer who taught Churchill how to play
golf. And Ian Fleming was notthere, he was off on duty and
naval intelligence at the time. ButBrendan Bracken was Churchill's kind of Brendan Bracken

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an obscure historical figure, but becameChurchill's right hand man before and during the
war, and then a little bitafter the after the war, and then
again when Churchill reassumed the Prime ministershipin nineteen fifty one. So they go
to Maysfield Garden Road twenty Maysfield GardenRoad where Freud lived in what year?

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What year that was? That wasnineteen thirty nine, three June nineteen thirty
nine. So this is after mutThis is this is after Munich, but
before the collapse of the Munich agreement. So they have a year throw and
this is this is all this isfiction. Fiction, So there's a little
anachronism going on here. Correct,No, basically ahead, I'm sorry,

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I mean, all of these thingsare happening contemporaneously, so this is fictional
of this. Bernard Darwin was aprominent he was irominant golf pro and he
said, Bernard Darwin, he didn'tknow it. But people can't hear.
They're not going to think that.No, So essentially the idea that's that's
popping in here, John, asyou get in the book, as Brendan

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Bracken knows Ian Fleming, Ian Flemingknows the Crown Prince of Germany who's trying
to ingratiate himself with Hitler, andas they try to figure out what Hitler
is going to break the Munich agreement. That is that has been agreed to,
but certainly they haven't invaded Czechoslovakia yet. That's that's h and yeah,
that was that was the span thatwas with the monkey ratch, which he

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thought might endanger the uh the golfmatch, but he persuaded Chamberlain to let
him go ahead and do it withit. And so under the cover everyone
thinks Churchill hates golf, and underthe cover Fleming decides and manages to engineer
a secret meeting between Hitler and Churchillunder the cover of a golf match,
the difference being that Hitler does likegolf and he thinks Churchill is terrible at

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and Churchill, unbeknownst to everyone,starts taking uh taking lessons from Bernard Darwin.
And it creates an interesting thing,folks, if you want to know
what the Ryan is, you know, John is setting this up a lot
like the Bond film Goldfinger, sinceFlemings in the middle of all of this.
And by the way, and soit's an incredible read that you've set

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up your new book Churchill versus Hitler, John Gagan. John. By the
way, if I remember correctly,I think Fleming right now, right about
doing that time is in Russia ona big spy mission that is like almost
on the same level. That's untiltwenty two, that's until forty two.
Well, yeah, this is thirtynine. He's still he's still working for
naval intelligence in London. But partof this is what you kind of get

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into in the whole book is apossible history. It's it's alternate history,
but it's you. You look atit as these events could have happened to
explain why why Churchill was able tolook into Hitler's mind. It is a
rancorous, wonderful, in times hystericalbook, but also a very brilliant look

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into the mindsets of Churchill and Hitler. You worked on this novel for two
years and we're premiering it on thetwenty fourth of February fourth and fifth,
twenty fourth Sunday. We're premier onSunday, that Sunday afternoon, and that
was the fifth. I'm sorry,the twenty fifth. I may stand and
stand corrected on that. It's thatSunday afternoon, twenty fifth. I think

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you're right, and I'm wrong,actually so. But you can find out
more information at the Gardendistrict Bookshop Dotcom to get tickets to the event.
Tickets are basically the price of thebook for a couple and and attend,
and you're you're gonna actually be inconversation with Bob Livingston, if I'm not
mistaken, the former congressman who wrotethe forward to your book. Oh great,

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wow, correct? Correct? WasBob ever involved with any kind of
intelligence operations as you know in Congress? Yes, very much so Okay,
he was like on the Intelligence Committeeor something like that. Yeah, I
think Judiciary Intelligence and maybe one ortwo more. He was chairman of Appropriation
and folks, as we were talkingabout filming propriations is the big one.
Yeah, oh yeah, a lotof intelligence going on there. Anyway,

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as we were talking about Fleming beinga real spy, he really was,
a lot of people don't know thatabout him, the guy who wrote all
the James Bond books with Ian Fleming. Yeah, that he was a I
mean, he's one of the topspies they ever had. Well, and
he's got an amazing, you know, biography of what his life was like,
why he went into the spy business. Anything's just fascinating. And if
folks, you want to think,I think he's writing about himself when he

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writes about James Bond, he doeshe's it's I believe that well he would.
He often in his own in hisown biography said the difference between him
and Bond is he couldn't walk intoa room and shoot somebody, which is
what how Bond begat the double Oseven. But he Uh. What's interesting
about this book is, folks,it's since Fleming is putting together this sort
of cover story of this golf matchbetween Churchill Churchill is going to meet with

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Hitler at the behest of Neville Chamberlainto find out whether or not Hitler is
going to keep his word after Munich. Churchill is a huge critic if Hitler
can convince it. And the bookis so set up on this golf match,
which everybody's constantly joking throughout the bookWinston, you hate golf. And
the funny thing is, John youactually did a deep dive started this whole

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thing thinking Winston Churchill lady golf anddoubt he actually didn't he but he was.
He was. He was a jokethat he hated golf. It actually
is not true, and you takeit a step further in this book,
but you kind of use this golfmatch as a cover, but Winston,
being competitive, decides not to makeit a cover, and the whole thing
I thought it was very well done. Did he ever play golf with FDR?

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Y'all know no golf, doubt couldn'tplay golf? He acted like no,
no, he couldn't. They puthim first of all FD ever played
golf as he never played golf.So many presidents golf. Ike was the
first president from from Hoover to Ikewhere there's no nobody played golf. And
then I played golf constantly. Butfolks, I highly encourage you to get

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this new novel. It'll start it'spremiering Garden District Bookshop next weekend. You
can find out about a private eventwith Bob Livingston and John Gegenheimer by going
to our website Gardendistrict Bookshop dot com, calling the bookshop directly, or you
can call me five oh four threenine zero four five seven nine. I
give you information. That's five ohfour three nine zero four five seven nine.

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You can also call the Garden Districtbook Shop itself if you want tickets
at Ladies and Gentlemen and or goto our website Gardendistrict bookshop dot com.
The Garden District book Shop is ofcourse five oh four eight nine five twenty
two sixty six. Five oh foureight nine five twenty two sixty six.
And John, before we let yougo that you spend a lot of the
book book it's it's actually a veryfast moving book about these events, but

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you spend a lot of time gettinginto Churchill trying to get into Hitler's brain.
And what is the stunning realization thatyou came to as an author and
your characters realize. I mean,because we all know looking back at history,
Hitler is this evil character, soon and so forth, he's responsible
for the Holocaust, the biggest worldwar. But you actually take it a

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step further. What did you learnand and head through your characters learn about
Hitler and all of this, Well, I learned that Hitler was a course
of a very complex human man,of human being. He was of course
extremely supremely evil man and he aswell know, he cast a spell over

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Germany and he was only by theway, yeah, and he conquered of
course most of Europe. But hewas prevented from realizing his dream by none
other than Winston Churchill. It washis his antipose and if it weren't for
Churchill, we probably would be onthis program speaking German. Right. Wow,

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Churchill did save the I think everybodywill agree, did save the West.
And he's probably the most impactful influentialfigure of the historical figure the twentieth
century. Then he tried to saveus on the Communists Iron Curtain. Yeah,
and I did learn a lot aboutthe The resolve is an amazing resolve

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of Churchill. And that's how,that's how, that's what he displays on
the golf course. The golf thegolf matches a prelude to World War two,
and it's a blueprint for how hewill conduct World War two and also
how Hitler will conducted more in amore reckless impulsive way. Churchill, of
course, more calculating and rational thanHitler was, But I did one of

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the things I discovered was this,uh, this complete contrast between Churchill the
rational person, a rational uh uh, a person who was calculating but in
a irrational way, in a justreally kind of a dispassionate way, except
when he had to convey his messageto the British people. But uh.

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Hitler, on the other hand,was totally impulsive. I did conflicting things.
Uh, we wanted to allow theAllies to uh cut them a little
slack in evacuating Dunkirk, and atthe same time was bombing the hell out
of them. And so that's sortof sort of the differences, the profound

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differences in their personality, other thanthat being one evil and the other good
righteous man, and so, ladiesand gentlemen. The author is John Gagenheimer.
He's the author of church of VersusHitler, which imagines a secret meeting
between Churchill and Hitler after the MunichAgreement before the outbreak of the war at
a golf course in Sweden, puttogether by Ian Fleming. And what it
does is, even if you arenot a big novel reader, he you've

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done such an incredible job of gettinginto the minds of Churchill and and Hitler
as historical figures. This is amust read for anyone interested in World War
two history. A couple of questionsand thoughts, did you know what what
Hitler's favorite just about his favorite typeof movie was? He loved him America.
Don't tell me what on with thewind? No, no, no,

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no, no, no. Idon't know if any favor favorite type
of the wind was nineteen thirty nine. Favorite type of type of American movie
Roman comedy, No no, no, no, no, American cowboy movies
because the cowboys were bold and aggressiveand they like to shoot guns. Germans
loved to you know, Like Isaid, Jermsman never met a war that
didn't light. And then the yeah, and then you know why he thought

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America would lose because America was deepdebauched and and uh fallen because their favorite
mascot, if you will, inAmerica was a dirty rotten rodent, Mickey
Mouse. This guy was a lunaticanyway. By the way. Also,
and you know, if I guessyou know this, but Hitler was big

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time into the occult. He wasa big I mean big time from his
earliest days and he became more andmore involved as time went on. He
even thought he was the Antichrist andwas very excited and proud of Yeah.
He thought he thought any Christ wasa hero. Really, yeah, he
thought he thought he was destined tobe the scial did in the sense to
think that he was destined to dowhat he did. Well, yeah,

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but that's one thing, so didwhat's his name patent, But that that
didn't mean they're they're saying they're theanti Christ. You know, well,
you know, but okay, thisis another thing. Now, this is
a question that that I'd like youto help me with. I have a
security clearance a top secret sci usHony Special Forces, was counter intelligence agent,
and then later on I became acounter insurgency advisor attached the Marine Corps

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as from the last two of twentyten as a former intelligence operator. If
you will, can you give meany ideas or thoughts or whatever that would
find that of which I would findgreat interest in you book? Let's see.
Well, Yes, Ian Fleming tractsHitler of over an extended period of

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time and reports back to Churchill andwho is it the ambassador Neville uh Henderson
uh and and and to some extentand to Neville Chamberlain as well. And
he reports back the detailed findings andhow how he actually went about being a

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spy and being able to conceal hisidentity for those many months that he was
tracking it. In other words,Fleming was he was operating like in playing
clothes in Germany or Austria? Isthat what you that way he was tracking
him? Yes, yes, Andhe was playing golf, and he was
playing golf with bis Mark. Yeah, and with the crown with the Crown

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Prince Willie, I mean yes,yeah, yeah. And and one of
the things that the Crown Prince ofGermany, the Kaiser's son was no it's
not Bismark, he was. Itwas Miss John spoke Crown Prince William.
He met Willhelms talking about Yeah,no, he was. One of the

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things he was doing was he washanging around the golf club and that's how
he finds out that Hitler has takenup, which is actually historical. John
puts in an interest in golf,and because the Crown Prince of Germany is
trying to ingratiate himself, this isactually very historical with the with the Nazis
trying to get the monarchy restored,and so all this is going on.
John Gagenheimer, Your book Churchill VersusHitler is available at the Garden District Bookshop.

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You can find out more at theGarden District Bookshop dot com about the
special event on February twenty fifth inthe Garden District at a private home that
will be where John will be inconversation with former Congressman almost speaker elect Bob
Livingstone talking about this book. Livingstondoes the forward of Churchill Versus Hitler,
and it reads like a spy rompof Ian Fleming trying to put together the

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secret meeting between Churchill and Hitler.And if you're a student of World War
two history, you will get perspectivesthat you never even considered that are based
in history. Your book is heavilyfootnoted about what the events that are going
on. And John Gagenheimer want tothank you for joining us here on the
Founder Show. John was great,very welcome. Yeah, thank you very
much. Thank you. Ally.I wait to read your book. You

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can find out about the event onthe twenty fifth, ladies and gentlemen by
going to Garden District Bookshop dot comcalling the Garden District Bookshop at aera code
five oh four eight nine five twotwo sixty six five oh four eight nine
five two two sixty six, orladies and gentlemen you can call me five
oh four three nine zero four fiveseven nine and get more information about this.
Meet John Gagenheimer Bob Livingston and findout and get a copy of this

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on High McHenry with Christopher Tidmore andladies and gentlemen. We've you know,
we've got a lot of political talkshows, political topics we're got to talk
about, particularly the presidential race,but we got to start off with something.
You know, we got sort ofa carnival post mortalman. I don't
know about you, High. Isaw you out there with a certain dance

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and darlings out there. You wereout there. You were late, and
you're late on Friday night. Youwere ty McHenry might be dressed in camic
today, but he was dressed asas Taylor Swift in a in a Travis
Kelsey jersey for this uh for Wewas swift, these folks and the crowds
went wild. It was for thefirst time we had the six to ten

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Stompers and we were the inspiration forthe six ten Stompers. Interesting backstory and
for the first time we competed offline, but we had a little competition.
It was great. So of course, you know, for those that don't
know, Creditize one of the satiricalcrews along with another one that Hi you
know, is often in the Chaosand others that talk about politics. But

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what I found was interesting intrigued meabout Marti Grass was not the political They
had some very very beautiful, someinteresting political satire that was across board.
But it was the fact that startingthe friday before on the first weekend with
Cleopatra, when it hit a treeand delayed the entire thing to where Cleopatra
and the surrounding parades didn't even makeit to Canal Street until ten o'clock at

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night, and a problem. Andthen every single every single night, even
Muses was where everything went well,everything went so late. And part of
this is the fact that we're tryingto do these night parades. Used to
be we would have one parade perevening that was, and it was they
were not nearly as long. Andso the idea was that, yeah,

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parade might leave at six o'clock,but it's going to be finished by nine.
There's just one parade sixteen, eighteen, twenty five whatever floats, and
that's the end of it. Andthen after Katrina, because we had lacked
police forces, we put all ofMarti Grass into a set series of days
where basically we would have you know, Wednesday through Tuesday, and we'd have
this and you we'd have multiple parades. And then the parades themselves got progressively

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longer and longer unless you're Nicks,you know what I mean, which is
now pretty much collapsed down to sixdown sixteen floats. All the other parades,
I mean, MUSES has eighty eightfloats. I mean I can go
through, yes, and it's justthey're all along. But Christopher didn't that
next rapidly became the largest one,with over two thousand members. I don't
know how many floats, one hundred, not one hundred floats, but you

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know, thirty forty flots. Itwasn't the largest, but it was one
largest. Okay, well, itgot bigger than MUSES didn't it no,
okay, well anyway, it gotvery big though. Anyway, all those
members, like about two thousand them, they only left about two hundred and
fifty. So the other ones,Ironstein went to other parades, yeah,
which is now increasing the size ofthose courries something like. So some some

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went to Cleopatra, some went toIris. And I don't think we didn't
if you look at how the paradesweren't. Everything ran late throughout all of
Marty Graus, including Marty grad Day, Rex did not make it to Canal
Street. Rex himself, John Eastman, John men Jason did not make it
to Canal Street until four o'clock.He missed, He missed, his queen,

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his Queen of Carnival had to actuallyleave and get ready for the ball.
And so it was. It wasrunning so late that because there was
a Zulu breakdown, and you can'tdo much about that. But at least
what happened with that was on MartyGras days. There's no longer Komus doesn't
ride after this. So well,Rex may not have been finished till almost
five o'clock downtown, and you hadthe truck parades afterwards. It may have

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gone, but you still had theparades finished by about eight o'clock at night.
It wasn't so bad for Marti Grasbecause everything's running during the day,
so even if you have a delay, you still have hours, you've got
daylight, you've got some time tomake it up. One of the problems
we're finding out with the evening paradesis the fact that there since nothing starts
until five point fifteen, they're solate that it'll be one two o'clock in

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the morning. And what has happenedas a practical measure, if you hadn't
noticed, folks, is that mostschools are now giving off Friday before Marti
Gras, and in many cases ahalf day on Thursday. And I've basically
gotten to the point where as acity, because things already have to start
at five point fifteen, you haveto get people to go home earlier.
We have a choice as a cityin future Marti Gros, and it's simply

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that we give the kids Wednesday,Thursday and Friday off and maybe they go
Monday and Tuesday and they go backto school on ash Wednesday, instead of
doing the other way. It's thesame number of days. Right now,
the typical school holiday is Monday throughFriday of Marty Groos week, or we
acknowledge for a fact that we can'thave all of these parades at night on

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one night. You know, wecan't do three parades on Wednesday, three
parades on Thursday, three parades onFriday, and that go till one two
o'clock in the morning, because ifanything goes wrong, if anything breaks down,
if anything gets delayed, the paradesgo to two o'clock in the morning
and it just goes forever. I'mmaking a point that right now we ought
to say, as a city,all right, to heck with it.
School holidays start on Wednesday Wednesday beforewe go through Tuesday, ASH Wednesday,

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you go back to school, orwe add an extra day under the calendar
for ash Wednesday. But the reasonwe do it like this is simple because
we have to start running our paradesno later than noon or one o'clock on
those days. Because if we don'tdo that, what's going to happen is
that these parades aren't getting shorter.With the exception of Nick's, pretty much
every parade that I know of hasgotten bigger in the last few years.

(29:36):
One of the reasons that's been happeningis a lot of the suburban parades have
been consolidating. Frankly, in thecity, people rather ride on Saint Charles
Avenue. They don't want to reallyride that. There's exceptions, and I'm
not putting down Argus had a brilliantrun. There's others parades that are still
very valid. But for the mostpart, people want to ride on the
uptown route. Right. Yeah,they all once from other parts of the

(29:56):
city. They've all been lest nowon Saint Charles Evans. That's the great
round. And it used to be, as I was explaining to somebody,
we had we had we had neighborhoodparades. We increasingly don't. I mean,
I live on Magazine Street and we'vewe've fought to keep Toath. The
city keeps trying to take Tooth awayfrom Magazine Street, and uh. But

(30:17):
the point about all of this isand to see the city, the hospital,
in the hospitals, and that's whyit was crazy shut ins and all
that, and it's a very nobleconcepts. So if they took them off
a Magazine Street, it would killthat part of their parade. My point
about all of this is we haveto acknowledge the parade. This isn't your
grandfather's parades literally are figurative, right, They're much bigger, they're tandem floats,

(30:38):
they require frankly, some of theseparades need to require. The sharp
turns at Magazine Street and Napoleon Avenueare such sharp turns. They kind of
having a little daylight helps. Andultimately we've got to say, as a
city, either we're going to putone parade per night and we're going to
spread this over two weeks worth ofparades like we used to have. It's
literally how it used to work.Or we're going to say, you know

(31:02):
what, the three days before MartyGoro weekend are public holidays. They're already
there, you know, is theschool holidays will just change that. We're
not adding days to the school holidays. We're just changing the dynamics. But
as a city, because what hashappened practically with these parades starting at five
o'clock is most of the city shutsdown. Downtown shuts down most of the

(31:22):
cities at two or three o'clock anyway, and so you can't really have effective
work days on those days. Sowhy not throw in the towel and say,
okay, fine, these are holidaysnobody really wants to make this decision.
But for the first year there isgoing to be a Carnival commission that
is going to The Carnival Commission isgoing to make after Carnival recommendations. JP

(31:42):
Morell created this and hopefully we'll getsome designs. Carnival is the key part
of our culture here and it issomething tragic when people spend thousands of dollars
to put on these parades, thegreatest free things of the earth, and
the kids themselves can't see him becauseit's one o'clock in the morning, and
it's just not fair to the kids. It's it's you have empty streets for

(32:05):
muses the most spectacular, arguably ofall the parades. You know so well,
I mean I'm talking about physical youknow. Number Yeah, I'm sorry,
maybe not elaborated, said maybe Iride in Chaos, Christopher maybe yeah,
Folks, really, I'm a visitorthere, Okay, remember that,

(32:25):
And if I told you any morethan that, I have to kid.
My point My point being, rememberI have a security clearance. I'm training
in the outright. My point beingthat, Hi, mcchenry has been seen
around all of the satirical parades timehanging out there right down the street from
me. What not, I goto the den see everything happens, cool
man. You may have a couplecouple of blocks from me anyway. But
speaking of carnival revelries, let melet me turn our attention that Tuesday was

(32:52):
an election day here in the UnitedStates, and two big elections happened.
One to succeed George Santos, Republicanwho obviously resigned in disgraced with thrown out
of the house, terrible guy.What was interesting about that race was the
Democrat who won the seat didn't looklike they were shoeing to start with.

(33:12):
They were, it had been infairness the the candidate, his name is
Representative Thompson Zawali, had held essentiallythat congressional seat previously. He had left
to run for governor of New York, and so it wasn't so surprised that
they got his old seat back.He was facing, however, one of
the best recruits the GOP has putforward for a congressional seat in years.

(33:35):
Her name was Mazzie Phillip. Andfor those that don't know, Mazzie Phillip
had she had flipped a seat inNassau county, which is like a they
have a legislature for the county.It's a it's a bigger deal than we
think of county government. She's anEthiopian Jew, so there are black Jews
who are historically Jewish and therefore longthey've been. They go back to Solomon

(33:57):
and they were, there was mayorqueen, they were, there was an
airlift into Israel. She's she becamean American citizen. She had a very
powerful, brilliant lady. She hada very powerful campaign. Are very intelligent
people, but it's not just notjust as and their women are amazing women.
I understand why Solomon fell for theQueen of Sheba, but I've known
them and there's something very special aboutEthiopian women. She was able to go

(34:22):
outside of the immigrant controversy centers andsay, look, I was a legal
immigrant, and there we have todo this legally. It was a very
You couldn't have run her race moreperfectly than she ran it. It's the
point. She ran a brilliant raceand she still lost forty six fifty four
in a race that was in aseat that was held by a Republican and
this because the guy was so badthe honest we because the Republicans had taken

(34:44):
the lead to expel Santos. Yeah, there was very little blame going on
towards the GPS. So what I'mhearing well, But the same thing if
you think that was an incident,that's a Long Island seat that Trump would
would this is Trump territory for thisdistrict. No, okay, this is
a seat, this is Trump,this is Queen's this is literally his home

(35:06):
turf, this Long Island Queens.And there was another seat that was up
that was the control of the PennsylvaniaLegislature in Bucks County in Philadelphia. And
in order for a Republican to winstatewide in Pennsylvania, there are two counties
you have to win in suburban Philadelphia. They're Delaware and Bucks County. This
is a normally Republican seat. TheDemocrats want it. And the reason I
brought all this is is Tuesday iseverything was going on. I'm sitting with

(35:30):
a guy who's going to join uson next week's show, My former radio
partner, Sid le Royo's coming backand beyond with us in the air,
and we're sitting at Sid's house onRoyal Street looking at these races, because
of course we're political geeks and weshould be doing something better. On Marty
grud Day, we're sitting there inour costumes looking at tracking polls and Sid's
like, Biden's going to win.This shows it. And I said,

(35:50):
I don't know, look at thepolling data that not at all Trump's leading
in these things. He says,no, what's happening is, yeah,
people don't particularly care for Biden.People all this different constraints that you're bringing
up, tid more of this.But when it comes into one of these
races, when the suburbs have tochoose between Biden and Trump, they're going
to choose Biden, even with everythinggoing on. And I said, well

(36:15):
no. I said, well,I don't know if I agree with you
on that one, Sydney, becauseI'm looking at tracking polls. But he
said he made a projection this wasthe middle of the afternoon that both of
these races we're go to won bythe Democrats at a time when it was
that that shouldn't. These should havebeen very tight races. These should have
been like if somebody won by afew votes, and they aren't. And
that's one of the things I thinka lot of Republicans aren't paying attention to

(36:37):
that. It's not it's not actuallyswinging these particular districts. I mean,
they got a real problem because nowthat the majority of the House of Representatives
is down to two. It's sobad that Steve Scalice had to come home
from the hospital to be able tohave an indictment of Maoris, the Homeland
Security Secretary. It passed because heonly they only had a two seat majority.

(37:00):
It's like a time a sector hasever been impeached. Yeah, I
mean, and that sin basically thepost Civil War period. And the point
being that everything is so tied atthis and it doesn't speak well for the
Republicans if they go in the Houseunless something major happens. And so the
major happened things is I watched thething that's got the Democrats terrified. There
are two names that have Democrats terrifiedright now. One is Robert F.

(37:22):
Kennedy Junior. He got on afew more ballots and he had a very
good I don't know if you sawthe Super Bowl, but he basically ran
the super Pack, ran his uncle'sad with his face on it, and
I thought for seven it was sevenmillion dollars to run it. But I
thought it was brilliant. He can'tapologize to his family because he didn't actually

(37:42):
authorize it, but it was Ithought it was a brilliant ad. The
other thing that happened was perhaps moreimportant. Joe Manchin made another move that
he was running for president, andhe came out and he said something that
we said was going to happen onthis radio show back in December. You
need to listen to this show,folks. Folks. Back in the summer,
we had a lady by the nameof Jennifer Frank from on Vastchissetts who

(38:04):
had a committee that's called draft RomneyMansion. What does mansion do? Who
do I want? Is my runningmate? Mitt Romney. We predicted it.
He came out and said it directly. It was it was. There
was no its ends or But thisis a man that was torturing his dog
on the top of his car,and he was binding women up. He's
putting him under bonds and binding them. Remember that, bloney. Oh yeah.

(38:29):
He had in his business he had, you know, so many female
employees, some of his top employees. He said, we had a special
binder to keep well, you knowthat means your file situation. I've heard
Biden say it. Nobody's freaking outover him. Of course, the main
slam media would never touch him orObama or any of them. And then
the other thing was he put hisdog on the top of his car and

(38:50):
the dog loved it. Dogs loveto ride with their face and then win.
I don't know what it is,but they love it. But they
forgot to mention that Obama was eatingdog first after I mean, it had
to first be tortured before then theywould chop it up and eat it.
And Obama was quiet. He said, some of the best food he's ever
en find. Point out how theaudience, the media is the audience is

(39:12):
totally lost that these were allegations thatwere made in the twenty twelve election,
but people were on back then.They didn't all forget. Now. The
point I'm getting at is, ladiesand gentlemen, that all of this is
happening in the context. All ofthis happened on Tuesday, on Mardi Grade,
so the world actually was continuing whenwe had it. And I think
that the elections that happened along withMansion Romney, this race is about to

(39:35):
get a lot more interesting before.It's not Super Tuesday in March fifth is
not the end, but only thebeginning. I want to bring up one
positive though. I have a newcolumn in the Louisiana Weekly, and the
new column, Ladies and Gentlemen,has to do with African Americans narrowing the
gap. The employment gap between whitesand blacks has gone is the smallest on
record, and the five point twopercent for African Americans to three point seven

(40:00):
for whites. Thank you, DonaldTrump. And it's and I will actually
in this particular case, I don'tthink I thank Biden or Trump. I
think of the fact that baby boomersare retiring and there are four hundred thousand
people getting so much to elevate thejob opportunities and the salaries of black He
really did, and Biden that wasone of his great accomplishments as a president.
And Biden would say the same thing. Oh, but he says everything

(40:21):
biden Omics is good. Inflation isgood for Biden tells us every moron.
He remember, he's the village moron, except he's a low grade moron.
He is our village idiot as apresident. And how can you believe anything
that man said? As as JohnStewart said, we have too mentally ed
old people running for president. ButI will I'm gonna we only have one.
No, we have we have one, but I want to say this
while we still have time. Oneof the things that's interesting is that not

(40:43):
only working class jobs where it's improved, because there's kind of a deficit of
people who actually do things and buildand take care of our society, but
it's actually gone across. African Americanshave gained about one hundred and thirty thousand
jobs and computer related occupations in thelast three years. Essentially, the deficit
between whites and blacks have reached apoint where essentially it's the same number of

(41:07):
whites as blacks. You know,sixty three percent of Black Americans are either
deemed to be in work or searchingfor jobs. That's actually greater than whites,
which are at sixty two percent.Not very much, right, it's
essentially it's its statistical instrumatis you knowwhat good there's some good news out for
While you tell me this, Ican't help but think of Woodson, who
had started a think tank called theWoodston Institute. I'd encourage everybody to go

(41:30):
to it. Because he tracks thesuccess of his people's He's an African American
over the past like one hundred andfifty years, and it's amazing to see
the remarkable business success of Africans,the business that started, the businesses they
owned, they owned railroads, theywere like one of them. The female
was the first female millionaire. Itjust goes on and all with all the

(41:52):
success Blacks have had over the years. And basically what he's saying is,
look quick, feeling sorry for yourself. If you do that, you'll never
you'll never be able to make anythingof yourself. Well, forget all that
and just go to work. Andyou've got it. You can make it.
You've you've got all the opportunity tosuccess you could ever want to have.
Go far well. And part ofpart of what I'm saying is it's
not it's not it's not that thereisn't racism in this world, but it

(42:15):
is the fact. But the point, the point that I'm making it real,
real advancement is actually happening right now. And so it's occasually Donald Trump's
occasionally thank you, Joe Biden.It's occasionally good Joe Biden didn't do anything
needing to Donald Trump. It wasthis part of this is it's all right,
we're running out of time. Iwish we could develop this, but

(42:36):
all right, check get out.You can always check out what we're saying,
folks. You can check out checkus. Go to Louisiana Weekly dot
net. You can read my columnon this subject, on the advances of
African Americans and ladies and gentlemen.It was the real pushes in the pudding.
The day after Carnival here in NewOrleans, the the the advertisements for
jobs, not just hospitality, butacross the board were a myriad of one

(42:59):
and you saw at a tremendous successrate amongst local African American business hiring from
entrepreneurs down to workers. Folks.We'll be back with our patriotic moment here
on the Founder Show right up forthese imporant messages. Stay tuned more Theoundy
Show with Hi mckenry Christopher Tidmore.Right after these messages, We'll be right
back, folks, remember, folks. February twenty fifth, John Gegenheimerpreneurs' new

(43:24):
book Churchill Versus Hitler and a conversationat a private home in the Garden District
with Bob Livingston. Tickets are availableat Gardendistrict Bookshop dot com Gardendistrict Bookshop dot
com to attend, and ladies andgentlemen you can do that or call me
five oh four three nine zero fourfive seventy nine to get a copy of
Churchill Versus Hitler and this wonderful conversationabout this incredible new novel. Rescue,

(43:49):
recovery, re engagement. These arenot just words. These are the action
steps we at the New Orleans Missiontake to make a positive impact on the
whole homeless problem facing the greater NewOrleans area. Did you know in twenty
twenty, homelessness in our community increasedby over forty percent. We are committed

(44:10):
to meet this need through the workbeing done at the New Orleans Mission.
We begin the rescue process by goingout into the community every day to bring
food, pray, and share thelove of Jesus with the hopeless and hurting
in our community. Through the processof recovery, these individuals have the opportunity

(44:32):
to take time out, assess theirlife and begin to make new decisions to
live out their God given purpose.After the healing process has begun and lives
are back on track we walk eachindividual as they re engage back into the
community to be healthy, thriving,and living a life of purpose. No

(44:53):
one is meant to live under abridge. No one should endure abuse,
no one should be stuck and addiction. The New Orleans Mission is a stepping
stone out of that life of destructionand into a life of hope and purpose.
Partner with us today go to wwwdot New Orleans Mission dot org or

(45:15):
make a difference by texting to sevenseven ninety four eight. Well, folks
are back in this chaplain, Himcgenry, and it is now time for
us to go into our chaplain.Bye by patriotic moment, which just take
a brief moment to give you alittle short history lesson on the biblical foundations
of our country, our Judeo Christianjurisprudence, and today of all people,

(45:37):
we want to talk about left CaTiOHearn. He was a brilliant one of
the top leading literary figures of histime in nineteenth century. He spent a
lot of time here in New Orleansand of course in Japan. He's famous
for both both locations because he wroteso much about both locations and established so
much He actually helped mold the cultureof Japan. And the guy was a
remarkable man. But he loved NewOrleans. And he was the theme for

(45:59):
the Rex Parade this year, andthey had a great proclamation that Rex always
does, and in it they hada quote of left Caddig or Hearne about
how much he loved New Orleans.Yea, I love it. Times are
not good here. The city iscrumbling into ashes. It has been buried
under taxes and friends and maladministrations,so it has become a studied archaeologist.
But it's better to live here inSouth Cloth other than the whole owned the

(46:20):
whole state of Ohio. Kind ofsounds like Tennessee Williams saying there are only
three cities in America San Francisco toNew York and New Orleans. All the
rest are just like Cincinnati. It'sscary as that was eighteen eighty I know,
I know, anyway, But hetalked about how much he loved New
Orleans, how beautiful it was,and that if you leave Nualleans you leave
with regret. So but the keything about him is to understand his fundamentals.

(46:45):
What really drove the man, whatmotivated what was deep in his heart?
Why was he here? Why washe doing what he's doing? And
Chris Fahm, I'll let you readthat quote, and so you gotta understand
he You know, people when theparade were talking about the fact he wrote
the first Creole cookbook, he wrotethese sketches of New Orleans, but they
forget the thing they didn't mention,which was his deep, deep Christian faith.
Yeah, he said, And hemade a statement about being an author,
that it was very educational. Hesaid, it's no exaggeration to stay

(47:07):
that the English Bible is, nextto Shakespeare, the greatest work in English
literature, and that it will havemuch more influence than even Shakespeare upon the
written and spoken language of the Englishrace and folks. Victor Hugo, one
of the greatest literary figures of alltimes, said that England made Shakespeare,
and the Bible made England, andmany of Shakespeare's quotes we don't realize that

(47:30):
they're just quotes from the scripture.So folks, for that, we can
now see again the enormous impact ofthe Bible on all of Western culture,
and especially on America, because wewere like super Bible heavy compared to the
other Western nations. Well, folks, it is no time for us to
go into our chaplain Ba Bah gospelmoment. Now we can see left.
Katie O'Hearn had a deep faith andgives me every reason to believe he was

(47:53):
truly born again going to heaven.But what about you? Are you going
to go to heaven when you die? As we now go into our chaplain,
Bye Bah gospel moment. Folks,The Bible says that God loves you
with an everlasting love. And likethe Great Song goes, if ever I
seeks to love, let all kindsof bad things happen. Let's say,
are crazy things happen? That's ourtheme for you know, Carnival Day theme

(48:15):
Rex theme song. So, folks, love is so important, it's the
key. The entire Bible is reallyabout love. From Genesis Revelation. I've
been studying since I was five yearsold, and that theme continues to emphasize
itself to me. God really lovesyou. This scripture says He loves you
with an everlasting love. He createdheaven for you, not hell. He
created heaven. He created hell fordevils, for sin and for death and

(48:37):
all that's going to be thrown inthere one day. But there's a tragic
place in the scripture, and itsupports what the Bible says about God.
That God is long suffering, notwilling that any should perish, but that
all should come to repentance. Andthe scripture says God takes no pleasure in
the destruction of the wicked. Hedoesn't want you to go on to hell,
folks. And yet the scripture saysHell is being in large. That's

(48:58):
that tragic passage. He's being inlarge because instead of just sin, death
and devils, now human beings aregoing to Hell because they completely reject God's
love. And God will never letthat into Heaven. It would spoil the
rest of heaven for all of us. He's going to protect his love.
He's going to protect his people.He's not going to let it be destroyed
by the sin and the corruption ofthe wicked, of whatever kind of wicked

(49:21):
thing it could be, including humans. So humans who reject God get to
go to that other place it's calledHell. You don't want to go there.
God gave you a provision for Thescripture says, a gospel is the
power of God in the salvation towhosover believeth This is the gospel, folks.
The Bible says, far I declarinityto you, the Gospel that cries
God for all of our sins.That means, from the day you're born,
in the day you die your tiniesto your greatest sins. They all
went to the cross, and theBible says, of blood washed them all

(49:43):
the way. For I declaring toyou, the Gospel that cries died for
all our sins, was buried androse from the dead, according to the
scriptures, to win for you thefree gift of everlasting life to whosoever believeth
I paraphrase the last part of that. The first part was direct quote from
scripture. Folks. God wants yougoing to heaven. He made it so
you can. Jesus kept saying repentant. Believe that word repentance means to quit

(50:04):
trusting yourself. Stop trusting yourself,believing that you cannot save yourself, your
hopeless and help us with a goddestined to a burning hell. You're basically
a big loser, a terrible sinner, so quit trying to fix yourself.
You can't do it, but Godcan and will Let him do it.
Let him have your life. Believethat He really truly did die for all
your sins with bred and rose dead. And the moment you put faith alone

(50:27):
in Christ alone, you are bornagain. You're saved by grace. That
means a free gift through faith.You took it by believing childlike faith.
You saved by grace to faith.And even that is not for yourselves.
You're not even going to forget yourfaith up, folks. God's got to
do it for you. But hegives it to everybody us as it gives
it the word of faith to everybody. So come, so, folks,
it is right now time for youto believe with all your heart that Jesus

(50:49):
really did die for all your sinswith bredon, rose and the dead.
When he rose from dead, hewon for you his precious free gift of
resurrection, everlasting life. And now, folks, it is now time for
us to go into our chaplain.Bye bah. Watchman on the world.
We just talked about it. Intime events. There's so many different things.
I mean, there are over twohundred prophecies. They're all coalescing now
for the first time in the historythe world, all at once, all
of them, you know, likeeverybody dying that's never been possible before.

(51:13):
Jeans said, if I delay myreturn, there'll be no flesh left.
What could do that? Nothing backtwo thousand years ago. But guess what
we know, Adam bombs can doit now. Folks, are so many
things. One of the glaring thingsis the collapse of the maralful fabric of
society, and that's happening all aroundthe world. Societies are collapsing in their
own debauchery, like in the daysof Noah. Gene said, it is

(51:35):
in the days of Noah, Goddid kill everybody because everybody becomes so debauched.
Folks, we're there. It's happeningright now in front of us.
We just saw it recently, Martigo. I know we have a lot of
fun. We've been saying good thingsabout Margarel, but let's face it,
at martic our time, there's alot of debauchery. We all know it.
We've seen I've been seeing this alittle bit of kid I mean,
triple X sex on a sidewalk downtownFrench quart or whatever. You can't even
take your families down there anymore,folks. Marti Gras has a dark size

(52:00):
because all of society is collapsing now. Marty gars used to be a very
family friendly parade many years ago.You can still find it in parts of
Marti Garul like on Saint Charles Abny. But folks, for the most part,
it has become very debauched. Butthen so is everything else. It's
here, folks, Jesus is comingback soon. You better get ready.
And the best way to get readyis to build yourself a bunker or whatever

(52:22):
Jeeves said, go in the caves, hide, let the rocks come down
on you. That means build yourown bunker, because the wrath of God
and the destruction that's coming is goingto be so great you need to have
some kind of protection. So I'mgoing to recommend the best bunker you can
ever get. It's made by theHeavenly Bunker Company Construction company, and it's
named the Jesus Bunker. Get inhim, folks, and won't you won't

(52:45):
have a worry in the world oncethese bad things really begin to fall upon
us, the great judgments and thewrath that's coming. Folks. So I
petition you, I plead with you, pay attention. Trust Jesus believed that
he did die for all your sinswith Barridon and rose the dead. It
is time now for us go.As we close with the mount Saint Martin
singing a creole goodbye and God blessall out there. Does this have to

(53:08):
be the end of the nerd?You know I love you. In the
pamon land, I can see acrossthe million stars when I look in,

(53:30):
we can mosey it's the sun time. I suppose you couldn't call it a
cray if we take just a littlelittle longer to see our good night,

(53:54):
calling cel good
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