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May 4, 2024 54 mins
Hy and Christopher address the recent clearances of pro-Palestinian protesters at Tulane and Columbia universities— and cite the uncanny comparisons to the 1968 Presidential race. Will the upcoming Democratic convention in Chicago have a similar effect as it did 56 years ago?

We also talk about how the new NOPD headquarters will now cost over $12 million in rent! Hy and Christopher wonder if it would've been easier and cheaper just to buy the skyscraper at 1615 Poydras as the new City Hall office building.

We conclude our discussion speculating whether the new City of St. George in East Baton Rouge Parish will spawn a trend of neighborhoods becoming towns in the New Orleans area. It only takes 5000 people to form a township under the Louisiana state constitution and there’s already a move to form a City of Lakeview in Orleans Parish. Will we see restored cities of Carrollton and Algiers? (After all, Algiers remained a city in Orleans until 1959.)

Finally, Hy talks about the St. George himself!
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Bide holes the politicians addressed, thedigitators and magicians choose to see the money,
then you don't. There's nothing tofill the holes while there are filling
their pockets, bide holes, thepoliticians bouncing down the road. Everybody's wish

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for no moment, Corruption and dysfunction'sgonna take you. Divide its vention and
God bless all out there. Youare now listening to the founders show the
voice. Are the founding fathers.You're founding fathers coming to you deep within
the bowels of those mystic and crypticalligator swamps of the Big Easy, that

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old Crescent City, New Orleans,Louisiana. And how up on top of
that old Liberty cypress tree draped inSpanish moss way out on the Eagles Branch
is none other then you've been GaryBabby all the Republic Chaplain. Hi mcenry
with Christopher tied Moore, you Erotingreport, resident Radical moderate and associate editor

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of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at LouisianaWeekly dot net. And Hi, we
are broadcasting today from the Country MusicHall of Fame in Nashville, Tennessee.
And I've been on an adventure leadinga group of people talking about the roots
of American music, those elements ofour music that bring us together, that
connected the Elizabethian madrigals that existed inthe hollers of the Smokeyes and the Blue

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Ridge, and as they came downthe Tennessee River to Nashville, met up
with the Bamboola and the R andB elements that were born in Congo Square,
made it up the Mississippi Delta andcame gathered form what is modern day
R and B country music and rockand roll, the five tonal African rhythms

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with the five tonal very different,You're Elizabethan madrigals that are the base music
for what is America's signature art form. And of course the reflection is I'm
in the room of the greats.As I broadcast this of country music and
of music in general. Names likeElvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis and Ray

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Charles are there, along with namesthat are less familiar like George Morgan,
the leuven Brothers, Merle Travis ThomasHall, Ralph Emery and others across the
board. Because all music at thiswonderful museum kind of gainst the music and
what I really kind of wanted totalk about it was sort of a global

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picture. I've talked about the rootsof American music today in previous shows,
about how the Hollers of North Carolinaand Tennessee and Virginia preserved Elizabethan music so
much so that when it was birthedin the nineteenth century, some of the

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songs that were sung by Buffalo Springfieldand Bob Dylan are songs that were heard
by William Shakespeare essentially carried on andhow that merged with the fact that in
New Orleans and Louisiana, African slaveshad Sunday afternoons off and they were able
to meet and pass on their cultureand what is today called Congo square through

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music and preserving this five tonal beat. And it occurred to me when I
look at this is a perfect synthesisand metaphor for what America is. As
I go through these lands over andover and take people lecturing on this that
we are more than some whole ofour parts, and we don't always realize

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as a nation how disparate elements cancome together in ways that will never be
expected. I you know, it'sbeen a very contentious week and some have
compared the protests that are going onas the positive elements of the sixties.
Others compare them to terrorism. AndI have to admit that I was just

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as horrified by what I was,you know, the damage and defacing of
the Presbyteri Museum by pro Palestinian protestersin the past week. But I spent
some time in the museum looking atthe folk music of Los Angeles and the

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sort of the sixties folk music whichwas keeping, which was holding very ancient
songs and modern ways, and Iremembered something that was a very contentious time.
And we sort of remember the protests, but the music which spoke to
our hopes what we took with usand that we celebrate in a museum today.

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And it's the part that we inAmerica today. For all the contention
Biden, Trump, Israel, Ukraineand all the different issues that are dividing
us, This too will pass,and what we'll be remembered are the songs
of hope. Now that may seema little utopian, but I think that's
the lesson of American music. Thethings that we remember are the thing are

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the songs that make us feel thetruest parts of ourselves and hopes for the
future. But your thoughts on thatbefore we actually get some real talk about
politics on today's show, including talkingabout coming up a threat to the franchise
model. That's actually before President Biden. But your thoughts on the idea of

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music and hope. Yes, Christopher, I've gotten many ideas and thoughts of
hope and about music. And bythe way, folks, for all y'all
who are listening, I don't knowwhat a holler is. It's a it's
a like a valley or what's calleda draw that means as a mountain has

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folds in it going down if youwill, well, the bottom part of
that is called a draw or aholler or a valley, like I said,
and it also had something to dowith hollering across the hollow, if
you will, they have to holler, they have to yell. So it
can also mean that to reach theguy on the other side of the valley.

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And that so Christmas using the wordholler, that many of these songs
came from the hollers in appalation.It's very true. And just give you
all you know a little better understandingof that. And I also have a
song. I want to play ash. I'm going to play the whole thing.
We don't have time, but justa part of it. It's one
of my favorite songs when I waskidd it gave me hope, gave me
great thoughts about honor and how family, you know, the families that stick

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together are very blessed. And thesong that the name of the song is
the Sun of Hickory Hollers Tramp.I loved it. I came out and
I believe the late sixties, whenI was in high school, and so
he gave me hope. If youwill, and I'd like to just play
a little bit of it. Bearwith me here, and we're not gonna
get to hear the whole thing,but you can check it out. It's

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Johnny Darrel's the son of Hickory Hollow'sTramp. All the path was deepen white
from footsteps leading to our cabin.Above the door there burned the scarlet land,

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and late innight a hand with knockingthere with stands stranger. Yes,
I'm the son of Hickory Hollers Tramp. The corn was dry, the weeds
were high. When Daddy took thedrinking, Mama cried a tear. And
then she promised fourteen children, Iswear you will never see your hungry day

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when mamas folks, I can't continuethe whole song. I'll give you a
little bit of it at the end. But what a powerful song that was.
And again it gave us hope thatno matter how bad things were,
if you stuck with your family andworked hard, you could make it,
and you would have a you wouldhave honor, and you'd have a good
family. Even if they things weren'tdone always the best way. Let's say

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still they the family stuck together andtheir mother was a wonderful person. That's
the theme of the song. Andso bear with me, and I will
play you the end of the song. And then and then Chrisophre had some
more interesting things to tell us.He's got a lot of great stories right
now for us for the show.When daddy left and destitution came upon our

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family, not one neighbor volunteer tolend a helping And so let him gossip
all they want you love the SEMs. She raised us. The proof is
standing here a full drawn man.Last summer, Mama passed away and left

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the ones who left each and everyoneis more than grateful for their birds.
Each Sunday she receives this fresh foodcave fourteen roses, and the car to
re reads the greatest mom on thewell, folks, that was quite a
wonderful song for me when I wasa teenager here in New Orleans. Gave

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me hope. And we have sucha great heritage of country Western music here
in this country and bluegrass music.I'm a bluegrass crazy guy. I listened
to it every time I go tothe gym. I'm dancing all over the
Gym's got some of the best rhythmI've ever heard of song in songs.
And by the way, what's fascinatingis they have no percussions. They do
it all by plucking and strumming,and that's how they create rhythm. And

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it's just a powerful form of musesink. It's a very old let mean
we're talking about it goes back hundredsof years of European history, and interestingly
enough, that music merged with AfricanAmerican music way back in the fifties,
maybe even late forties, and eventuallyproduced a new genre from that fusion of

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those various mix of European and Africanideas of music. And out from that
came rock and roll. It's amazingthe story behind this. And by the
way, the birthplace of it washere in New Orleans at the do drop
in on the Chitpland Circuit, andthen also at first recorded and played on

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a radio station at Cosmo Motasa's recordingstudio and radio station. We have quite
a history here. Well, Christopher, I'm looking forward to your next thoughts
and ideas. So, Christopher,from the more pleasant thoughts of music,
having to get down into the youknow, I call it the septic tank

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of politics. I know you gotsome thoughts on that, maybe about what's
going on with these pro Palestinian proterrorists protests, anti jew hate, jew
Nazi protests that are going on acrossour fruited planes and universities all over the
place. That seems to be rightfor that kind of stuff if the left
is at it. You can alwaysfind that much of it in the universities.

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What's wrong with our education system anyway? And then of course how that
affects the politics of this country.What are your thoughts on that, Christopher,
I know you got some good ones. Let us have it, brother.
Well, referencing the pro Palestinian protestshigh. We have to bring out
the fact that, of course theNPD cleared the two Laney campus of an

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encampment of Palestinian protesters. The samething happened at Columbia University's student Hall on
Tuesday April thirtieth, fifty six yearsafter Hamilton Hall to the day, fifty
six years was cleared of protest.There's the Vietnam War. You know,
it's amazing how much this year inways is resembling nineteen sixty eight, with

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the major exception that not one Americanlife has been at risk in anything,
but the wars in Ukraine and Gazaare particularly Gaza, are omitting some of
the same response. You go,remember after Hamilton Hall was cleared in nineteen
sixty eight, three months later onColumbia campus. Three months later, the

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Democratic National Convention assembled in Chicago,and, amidst scenes of riots, in
this order nominated the party's candidate,a longtime senator and incumbent Vice President,
Hubert Humphrey. The Democratic Convention willagain come to order in Chicago this year,
though be it on August nineteenth ratherthan twenty eighth. It will nominate
a longtime senator former Vice president andnow in common President Joe Biden. In

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nineteen sixty eight, the Republican alreadyvoted their national ticket and an unprecedented for
the fourth time Richard Nixon, anda comeback after several years, in this
case eight years the year. Thisyear, the Republicans will nominate Donald Trump
after a four year absence. Thetone of the two conventions fifty six years

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ago were very different, but itkind of seeks the same tone today.
Bill Crystal, writing in The Bulwarkwrote noted that the Republican nomination, the
candidate said, we look at Americaand we see cities enveloped in smoke and
flame. We hear sirens of thenight. We see and hear those things

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in means of Americans crowd and anguish. Listen to the voice of the great
majority of Americans. They're not racistor sick. They're not guilty of the
crimes that played the land. Letus have order in America, my fellow
Americans. The long dark knight forAmerica's to end. Meanwhile, nineteen sixty
eighth, the Democrat candidate, afterfour days of tilmut said, may we
just share for a moment a fewof those immortal words of the prayer of

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Saint Francis of ASSISI, which mayhelp the wounds, ease the pain,
and lift our hearts. Listen tothe immortal Spirit again. Where there is
hatred, let me know love wherethere is injury, Pardon where there is
doubt, faith where there's despair,Hope where there is darkness. Light.
Those are the words of a saint. May those of less purity listen to
them well. And I accept yournomination in that spirit. That was Richard

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Nixon versus Hubert Humphrey by November fifth, in a hard fought race. Nixon
beat Humphrey forty three point four percentto forty two point seven percent with three
hundred and one electoral votes. Wedon't know what's going to happen. It's
November fifth, But there was athird party candidate, if you noted in
that race that was pretty strong.A third party candidate is yet running again.

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And Trump leads Biden by point sevenpercent, four point one five percent
to forty point eight percent. Ifthe election were held today, he'd get
three hundred and two electoral votes.The question is what is going to happen
next? But I've heard so manypeople say that this is nineteen sixty eight
all over again. It's a protest. But and then to some extent,

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we're the old guy sending, youknow, supporting the war. But I
point out that there are distinct differencesbetween the Vietnamese War and now. I
never thought i'd hear myself pointing outthat the North Vietnamese Communist I didn't try

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to put women in burkas, andthe very protesters, if they were seeing
the same thing in the Islamic world, wouldn't have it. But I wouldn't
have the same chance to speak aswomen. But I also point out that
no American lives have been at stake. We're in a revolutionary time in America.
My old boss ed Butler used tosay, America previously, every forty

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or fifty years goes through a revolutionarycycle where a major realignments. Gool.
Maybe that's what's happening now. Maybethat's what happened the late sixties. It's
at the stage for the Reagan Revolutiontwenty years later. But there are differences
today. The interesting thing about ourpolitics today is more unites us than separates

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us. We don't have Americans fightingin foreign wars, mostly at least not
on a major scale, the wayyou did in Afghanistan and Iraq, but
in your tenure of services. Butmostly we don't have this at stake,
So it might be time that youknow, the pro Palestinian protesters realized that,

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you know, some people are actuallyfighting for their lives, and that
we are just standing on the sidelines. We're not, you know, we're
supporting military aid, but doing thesame thing to the Ukrainians. On the
other hand that those that are Republicansopposing Ukraine, Democrats opposing Israel noted that

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military aid does not mean the samething as going to war yourself. It
means that you're not standing alone,no different than we received in our revolution
nearly two hundred and fifty years agofrom the French and Spanish folks. A
lot to consider on this very specialedition of The Founder's Show Your Thoughts,

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Hi Christopher. As always, you'vegot remarkable insights on all this, showing
that how history repeats itself, orcertainly that it rhymes. As Churchill said
and others my thoughts, we're livingin interesting times, and as the Chinese
say, pray that you don't livein interesting times because it can mean really

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bad stuff. We've seen a lotof bad things, folks, all around
the world, and of course certainlyin our country. It's a time of
great upheavals. If you've not seenthe movie Civil War, I'm asking everyone
to go see it. I'm noteven sure who's really behind it or what
the real plan of the movie was, how it was to be used,
let's say politically in America. It'sabout some states that secede from the Union

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of all We talked about this inan earlier show too a few weeks ago,
that California, of all things,California, Texas secede in unite and
when they do that, then thefederal government comes in to take them out
by war. And so they havethis big war and it breaks out all
around the country, and it's differentareas. In Florida and the Southeast starts

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also to secede and join the succession. It's a big, terrible war,
but just shows you the howers ofwar. And I saw it myself,
I experienced it. The last thingwe want is a civil war, folks.
I hope that Americans that we cancalm down and come to the negotiating
table, if you will, andpeacefully resolve our issues instead of all this

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violence that has erupted with the summerof twenty twenty. In the Summer of
Love, the mostly peaceful protests wereacross our fruited planes. Five hundred and
seventy locations were hit hard by Democratmobs supported by Democrat administrations in those various
political aos, and where they destroyedbillions of dollars of property, looted and

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stole hundreds of millions of chattel property, and kill fifty cops, put two
thousand cops in the hospital, andI don't know how many other you know,
how much of other collateral damage wenton, as far as the cost
of human blood, if you will, how many people were killed and raped
along the way. The aftermath lefta path of destruction of destroyed homes,

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businesses, and whatnot. And somany times the people, those poor neighborhoods,
that was all they had, youknow, they needed those little stores
or big stores or whatever they werebecause they didn't have cars and transportation wasn't
good. And now they're really introuble that now they even know how to
go get groceries. That's what Democratmobs do when you turn them loose.
They're very dangerous, and I believethey're trying to cut loose again this summer.

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They may try to repeat again.They did that to try to destroy
the Trump administration and give the nextelection to a Democrat president. Seemed to
kind of work along with stealing theelection. There were a lot of things
that went into that election anyway,Chris forher those of my thoughts on all
this and what in the world's comingup, Folks, of your praying folks,
you better hitch your knees more thannormally because we're heading into I think

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interesting times. Well, Hi,before we get into the whole subject of
the legislative session and the coming potentialconstitutional convention, we have to point out
that a really major issue happened lastTuesday. A group of US judges and
Federal Court voted two to one tooverturn the newly drawn congressional maps. Now,

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for those that don't have been followingthe saga, Judge Shelley Dick here
in the district courts ruled that Louisianahad to create a second African American majority
seat, something that was a fitof complete After the Supreme Court unexpectedly ruled
that Alabama had to do the samething, and so Jeff Landry used the

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opportunity to create a seat that wasthe classic definition of jerry manders. If
your original jerrymander was a salamander lookingdistrict through Massachusetts done by one of the
signers of the Declaration of Independence,Elbridge Jerry, we are the founder's show
he was a founder. Jerry manneris an old tradition in American politics,

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but it was a strange district,stretching from Baton Rouge to Shreeport through the
center of the state, connected onlyby impenetrable swamp. All it had in
common was that it had a clearBlack majority. Well twelve African American,
unconnected African American plaintiffs ruled that whatit did was super packed Black voters in

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a geographically non continuous district, leavingthem minor basically with no influence in the
remaining non African American districts. WhatJeff Landry drew designed it that way,
or had it designed that way?It is because it rewarded one of his
friends, African American Democratic State SenatorClio Fields, and condemned with his greatest

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enemy, Republican Congressman Garrett Graves Wellthis has gone before the court, and
the courts apparently agreed with the twelveplaintiffs and particularly Garrett Graves who was behind
all of this, and said,wait, this is super packing. This
is a classic jerry mander. Whilewe do believe you need a second African
American seat, this is not theway to do it. And originally,

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if you remember, we talked abouthere on the Founder Show, that the
recommended way to do a black seatwas exactly what they did for the redrawing
the Supreme Court, drawing it upthe Mississippi River in Julia what is now
currently Congressman and Julia Letlow's district.Because there are these African American communities that
run all the way up the riverfrom Baton Rouge to Monroe. It's a

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continuous, connected by a road,continuous district with similar needs and priorities.
Here's the rub of this ruling.In order to get this need, so
they overturn the map, they haveto say, you have to draw a
new map. However, if amap is not drawn by May fifteenth,
which is the deadline for the Secretaryof States to basically start the election cycle

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for the fall, Garrett Graves hasa reprieve. We will keep Louisiana will
keep basically a five Republican, oneDemocrat or a five white one black seat
for the next cycle, because there'snot enough time to draw a new seat.
Unless by some miracle, the SupremeCourt overturns this, the current design

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of congressional seats that worked a yearand a half ago will still continue to
stand. Garrett Grays will get anotherterm. Why is this interesting, Well,
what is the political balance in theHouse right now? Republicans have effectively
a two seat majority, and they'regoing to lose seats in Alabama and Georgia.

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Huh, every seat counts, Soby turning over this it could be
the difference between the Republicans holding aHouse majority after the presidential elections or not.
Perhaps not, but we shall seewhether it does. Garrett Grays,
of course, is thanking his luckystars because he doesn't have a lot of

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friends in the GOP. Landry doesn'tlike him, Steve Scalise doesn't like him
because he didn't stand up for Scalisewhen Scalice wanted to be speaker. But
the person who might like him alot, even though he's not a political
auty, Mike Johnson because Garrett Gray. If Johnson survives his challenge by Marjorie
Taylor Green, which was announced ofcourse, on Wednesday, they'll have a

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vote next Wednesday to try to removehim a speaker. It's it's aimed to
fail because Democrats are behind him Johnsononce if he's vindicated once another term,
a full term as Speaker of theHouse, and by the overturning this map.
Garrett Graves ironically could be the tievote to do that if he wins

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another term, which he's sure todo under the current design of the map.
Your thoughts on y it's Christopher,my thoughts, my very thoughts on
this. I can't help but thinkabout the swamp where you find salamander's like
a Jerrymanda and and it's something,folks. Things never change anyway, Great

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thoughts, Christopher. I have manymore thoughts about redissecting and all that.
You really give us a great insighton it, and it is a big
issue. We need to stay ontop of it. But right now we
got to stay on top of ourcommercial break because it's time for us to
take a brief break. We'll beback folks in just a short while.

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And again this is Chaplin High mckenrywith my partner Christopher Tidmore. Christopher,
what's happening with the NPD and CityHall? I know you got some
good insights on that. I can'twait to hear about it. That rip
Christopher, Well, Hi, didyou hear the one about the NPD wanting
to have a new headquarters. Yeah, we talked about this a few weeks

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back and we pointed out the oldFreeport mac Moran building sixteen fifteen Poindress.
They wanted to at two floors atfourteen dollars a square foot to be the
new headquarters. And the argument forthis was the old headquarters had so many
wraps rats they were eating the evidenceroom. Well, guess what we find
out this week They went ahead andthey rented the two floors at eighteen dollars

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a square foot, which is wellat market rates, raising the amount of
money the city would pay per yearfrom seven point seven million dollars to twelve
point five million dollars and taking abuilding that had less than thirty five percent
occupancy and bringing it up to aconsiderable portion of half filled. And by

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the way, there's not enough roomfor the evidence that was the whole thing
that started this. So they're buyingthe Chiquida Banana Warehouse on the other side
of town to be able to putthe evidence, along with extra storage for
the fire department and other city agencies. So this falls in the category of
why don't we do the same thingthat wasn't a good idea a month ago

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and twice the price. Only politicianscould come up with such insane idea like
this. Look, I don't begrudgethe NLPD want of a decent headquarters.
Their current headquarters abroad is disgraceful.It's it's falling apart. It was it
was in structural danger in two thousand, much less twenty five years later.
But I keep asking the question todaythat we asked a few weeks ago.

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Twelve point five million dollars a yearis roughly what the owners of this building
who bought the old Freeport Macmaran Buildingfrom Frank Stewart six months ago, were
paying in mortgage payments. So whyin the name of God did the city
just not go to them and say, look, we'd like to buy the

(31:47):
building from you. We're gonna moveenough city offices in there. In fact,
the city offices that are in theAmoco Building now called Orleans Tower across
the streets to the New Hall.We'll move those two. And the amount
that we paying in rent would beenough to buy the building and you could
still make a profit. Why didn'twe do that? No, instead,

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we're gonna rent space at ridiculous youknow, it's not as high as the
state is paying for Benson Tower.But that was a ridiculous deal that Bobby
Jendall negotiated to keep the Saints inNew Orleans without paying, you know,
writing a trick tech directly to theSaints. He wrote to Tom Benson's real

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estate company. But the fact is, we're still paying eighteen dollars a square
foot is still a premium rate.It's a good rate for downtown. Why
are we doing that without considering buyingthe damn building? Forgive my language,
ladies and gentlemen. Hi mc Henryand Christopher said, Warren Heerts, do
not try to u cur to usethe lord's name in vain or curse on
this show. But I have tosay I'm pissed. This is ridiculous.

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We're wasting Orleans tax dollars to beable when we could buy instead of rent.
But this is the entire problem withpoliticians, not just New Orleans,
but in Louisiana. You see itin many things, short term solutions rather
than long term thinking. NLPD deservesa new headquarters, and it's cheaper to

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rent than build a building. Butyou know what, it's about the same
price. If we were to takeall the other offices like permits and everything
that are in the Alaco building,move them on along with NPD into this
complex and buy the thing outright,I bet you they'd go for it if
the price was right, and itwouldn't be much more than we're going to
be pay in rent. The onlything I can say for this deal is

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it has a five year out ofa ten year lease in case we build
a new city hall. But heck, here's a great idea. Buy the
building and you don't need to builda new city hall and everybody saves money.
Your thoughts high great insights into what'sgoing on with city Hall and NPD
and headquarters with NPD. Christopher.Yeah, we need a major overhaul with

(33:59):
our city government. I can reallyunderstand why people are seceding from various locations
in the United States when you havethese pathetic governments local, you know,
state or national, people getting tiredof it and it's creating real frustration.
I can understand your anger, yourupset, you know, frustrations about it.
Anybody with a half a brain shouldbe getting upset about this that they

(34:22):
but it's always the wives and thebest thing to do. They can't ever
figure it out, but they'll invariablyfind the dumbest thing they can do and
make such a mess of things.So yeah, those are my thoughts,
Christopher. I'm right there with you. Thanks again for giving us a good
update on where it's going. Folksout there, pray for this city.
We need all the help we canget. We need people with wisdom.
People would get us a decent homefor the city Hall, if you will.

(34:45):
In the police department, they coulddo it. They got all those
great high rises up and down PoetrStreet. Anyone on would be great,
and a lot of them are forsale. They just need to get get
with it and do the right thinghere. So those are my thoughts,
Christopher. And you know the wegot the Plaza tower sitting over there.
We don't know what's going on withthat. That seems to that's an ongoing
project that's been ongoing for over twentyyears now. Who knows where that's gonna

(35:08):
end up going, But that couldmake a great city Hall think of it.
It's you know, right near thesuper Bowl and all that. It
would be great, I mean superDome. So folks, you know what,
Christopher, with all this talk ofsecession and crazy things going on,
and I bet you've got some goodinformation about maybe an area, a saintly

(35:32):
area in Louisiana, if you canbelieve it, a saintly area, Yes,
perhaps even a new city. Anew city kind of rhymes with George,
doesn't it. Christopher, tell usabout that one. I'm really looking
forward to hear and you're I've beenfollowing it. But it's a very interesting
story. So Christopher take it away. Well. Even with the successes on

(35:52):
Wednesday in the House of Representatives,time remains to see if a constitutional convention
will come about, and it seemedlike constantutional matters of what will be taken
out was going to dominate the conversationthis week, but we're actually leaving that
for next week for a very simplereason. One will know what the Senate
has done and what's coming up.But two, an even bigger constitutional issue

(36:15):
ironically happened on right before the Feastof Saint George that would have been Saturday,
the twenty sixth of April, becausethe City of Saint George was ruled
to be constitutional. For those thathaven't followed this nearly ten year saga,
a unincorporated part of Baton Rouge butan affluent white area, started about a

(36:36):
decade ago to wanting to form theirown school district. It was fought,
so they merely exercised the part ofthe state constitution that said if any area
that has over five thousand people,if they get a petition, have an
election, they can form themselves asa town. And that's what they did,

(36:57):
and it was a battle. Royalis a minority majority parish and so
the loss of the South Baton Rougeportions that are predominantly white and affluent was
a considered a racial issue, andit was delayed by the former John Bell
Edwards administration. It went through thecourts, the arguments whether the city would

(37:22):
have enough money has been predominant.Well, frankly, a judge ruled that
their financial projections and taxes were sufficient. Everything was done legally and they could
become a city. And it camejust in time for the Feast of Saint
George, something that did not gounrecognized by the founders of this effort,
particularly Woody Jenkins, who's been oneof the drivers behind this whole idea.

(37:44):
The City of Saint George is nowsaid that they will go forward and form
their own school district as well astheir own city government, which has gotten
some parents worried that their kids willbe taken out of schools or what have
you. Well, anyway, thereason I bring this up is the success
of it immediately brought back another idea, and that has to do with Lakeview.

(38:06):
Lakeview, of course, if youremember thirty forty years ago, had
actually talked about leaving Orleans Parish andjoining Jefferson. That is a legal threshold
that is impossible to reach. Itwould require a vote a supermajority of the
City of Council, a majority ofthe city, a majority of Jefferson,
majority of it would be so manydifferent hurdles it would never ever happen.

(38:30):
However, there is an interesting idea, and I actually talked about this idea
when it came to the Carrollton areaof Uptown when I ran for the Louisiana
Legislature. Under the state constitution,if five thousand people vote in an area
that's not an incorporated city to beable to form their own town, they
can, and therefore they control halfof the property taxes, roughly of their

(38:54):
community. The property taxes they petThat doesn't mean they can't have the sheriff
for the Metropolitan Police or others representthem, but they control the purse strings,
not the parish government. So whyam I bringing this? New Orleans
is the city it's incorporated, Notexactly, since New Orleans is the only

(39:15):
fully city parish incorporation. There area couple of interesting provisions in the state
constitution that may be coming up atthis constitutional convention that would clarify what is
right now vague, and that isthe idea that New Orleans is essentially a
huge unincorporated parish where everything's happened atthe parish level, or government is at

(39:40):
the parish level. I mean,I point out that that's not that uncommon.
Metteri is an unincorporated area, it'snot a city. It's run by
the parish. It constitutes most ofthe Parish of Jefferson's revenue and power.
But you still have Kenner, youstill have Harrahan, you still have Gret,
still have Westleigo. You get theidea, Well, what if Orleans

(40:02):
could do the same, what ifthe city of Lakeview could be created?
Adrian Bruno went on and said,I'm announcing my candidacy pre mayor of Lakeview.
For those that know is Pepy,Bruno's son himself as a prominent Republican
activist chairman of the Republican Party ofOrleans Parish. And he was doing it

(40:23):
tongue in cheek. It wasn't literallyserious, but he was making a very
big point on Facebook that it wasthat there's nothing major like constitutional that stops
the idea that the legislature could authorizeLakeview to become its own city, and
for that matter, it's not withouta historical president. Jeff Arnold, former

(40:46):
state representative from Algiers, came outand said, you know what, that's
why I filed the bills so Algierscould be recreated. And he's got even
better argument. Algiers wasn't an actualcity, a separate city within the Powerish
of Orleans until nineteen fifty nine.What if what we're seeing in this revolutionary

(41:06):
time we started it was not campuscrusades, but Orleans Parish actually have municipalities
within it. What if we wereWhat if the next twenty years will see
the birth of the city of Lakeview, the rebirths of the city of cities
of Carrollton and Algiers, maybe eventhe city of Lafayette or whatever the Garden

(41:28):
District would call itself. Now itwas a separate city. In fact,
the Garden District was the parish capitalof Jefferson Parish. I love to say
that to my resident, to thosethat come to the Garden District bookshop,
welcome to the parish. But thepoint is, is there a new movement
of political control at the local levelcoming because of this decision on the city

(41:51):
of Saint George East Batton Ridge Parish. Through everything but the kitchen, Saint
Mayor Sharon western Broom tried everything tostop East Baton Rouge Parish from losing Saint
George. It didn't lose it fromthe parish, but losing half of its
tax dollars to a municipal government.And she didn't succeed. Do you think
LaToya Cantrell could do any better?I doubt it. Your thoughts high,

(42:12):
yes, Chris forher, uh,it sounds good to me. Maybe it's
time for New Orleans to have toreally pay the price for the years of
mismanagement and foolishness, and the responsibleparts of this city may start peeling off,
seceeding from New Orleans the City ofNew Orleans and becoming their own cities.
I'd be all for that. I'mfed up with all this foolishness that

(42:32):
goes on in the political world andwe're constantly paying the price. Like Baton
Rouge. That part of Baton Rougewas the responsible part where they pay their
taxes and they work hard, andthey raise good families, and they do
all the right stuff and they tryto get good schools and everything else.
But the rest of this city,because it's irresponsible, lazy, and u
you know, always messing messing upwith the money, the finances and whatnot,

(42:58):
drags the good part down. Whydid I have to keep getting dragged
down? So I'm glad they succeeded. I'm glad they created their own new
city, if you will, thecity of Saint George. What a great
name, Saint George. What agreat man that Saint George was in church
history, and of course patron Saintof England and many other countries and cities
also. So well, folks,I think it's time for us now to

(43:21):
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Please go to our website lamnola dotcom. That's l A m B n
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(44:30):
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with with tough kids folks. UH. Some would call our kids the future
criminals of America because they're rough kids. They've grown up with many disadvantages,

(44:51):
and it's a very a great challenge. It's it's in one sense, a
great tragedy to see the sadness andthe sorrow of what goes on in the
inner city. They need our help, folks, and we and you all
are part of the solution. Youknow, this is God's solution to the
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(45:16):
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We've seen close to five thousand kidscome to Christ and we've seen hundreds going
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(45:39):
if you're interested, please get intouch with us and thank you so very
very God owns Well, folks,we're back and it's not time for us
to go into our chaplain. Bye. By patriotic moment where we just take
a brief moment to remind you ofthe biblical found nations of our country,

(46:00):
our Judeo Christian jurisprudence, and todayi'd like to talk about Andrew Jackson,
one of our greatest presidents. I'mpicking him because he was a man of
the people. What I mean bythat is all prior presidents had come from
lofty backgrounds. If you work well. They were the aristocracy of America up
until Andrew Jackson. And boy,what an amazing man he was. He

(46:22):
goes down as being one of thegreatest executives ever in the history of the
presidency. His talent for executive actionwas phenomenal. And this is what he
said about God and America, theBible in America. He said, go
to the scriptures. The joyful promisesit contains will be a balsam to all

(46:43):
of your troubles. That book isthe rock on which our republic rests.
Folks. I think Andy Jackson thought, Old Hickory thought, certainly we needed
the Bible if we were going tobe able to lead America the way we
needed to. About Jackson, hefought secession during his you know, we've
been talking about secession this show.He literally had a very aggressive battle with

(47:07):
Calhoun about secession and certainly won.And uh and then his one of the
later presidents, one of our othertruly great presidents, Abraham Lincoln, modeled
much of his presidency after Andrew Jackson, and uh, and he had a
lot to say about secession too.Both ways. When he was a congressman,
he gave probably the greatest legal defenseand cause and reason for secession,

(47:31):
but then later on when he's thepresident, he changed his mind about it.
Nevertheless, it is legal, itis part of our constitution, and
it gives It comes from the Biblicalconcept of separating yourself from people who were
just going too far off the deepend. They're going to getting too bad,
and so the Bible says, separateyourself from them. And it makes

(47:52):
a lot of sense to me anyway. But what about you. Have you
separated yourself for God? And whatthat means is holiness? You know the
word holiness and sacred. Actually,if you go to the Greek and hebret
means to separate, to be separatedfor God, to be for God.
And so have you done that inyour life? Have you separated yourself from

(48:13):
this world so you could truly beGod's child? And what I mean by
that is you have to quit trustin this world and all the things of
this world, trusting even yourself,that's your flesh, your own talents and
abilities. You have to just quittrust in everything if you're going to go
to God and really be God's child. And then when you do that,
you're free to put faith alone inChrist alone as we now go into our

(48:36):
chaplain by by a gospel moment.You know, the Bible says, God
loves you with an everlasting love.He loved you so much he knew we
would never be able to fix ourproblems, so he decided, I'll fix
some form. I'll take care oftheir sin problem by taking that sin upon
myself. He did that, God, this son, the Lord Jesus Christ,
perfect God, perfect man, allthe way God and all the way
man. He did that when hedied on the cross for all of our

(48:59):
sins about U says, his bloodwashed them all away, taking care of
our sin problem. And then hetook care of our death problem when he
rose from the dead to win foreach and every one of us, each
and every one of you out there, that precious free gift of resurrection,
ever lasting life to whosoever believes inthis great Gospel message. The scripture says,
the Gospel is the power of Godunto salvation to whosoever believeth And the

(49:20):
scripture explains to us what the gospelis. And one Corinthians fifteen and says,
for I declare to you the gospelthat Jesus died for all of our
sins, according to the scripture,was buried and rose from the dead,
according to the scripture, folks,when he died for all sins of Boule
says, he even became your sin, my sin. This ends of the
world, says he that new nossin. That's you, that's all of
us. He that new nos sin, that's myself. He that new no

(49:43):
sin. Jesus knew no sin wasmade sin. All of our dirty rotten
sins, folks, all of them, from day you're born to the day
you die. You tie us tothe greatest sins all went on Jesus and
into him, and he was turnedinto every one of our dirty rotten sins
for beings of people. Think ofthe awesomeess of that. You talk about
love. That's love, folks.He had to do that so he could

(50:04):
be completely intimate with it and destroyit once and for all. And he
did. And then after he didthat, he rose from the dead so
we would all get his resurrection life. If you've never gotten it before,
folks, do it right now.You just do it with a faithful little
child. First step of faith isto believe you can't save yourself. That's
called repentance and it's very important.The next step is to believe that Jesus
did it all. He died forall your sins, was buried in Roseman

(50:27):
dead. When you come to thatpoint in your life where you really believe
that, guess what, folks,you've just become a child of God.
You've just been born again. Thatmeans you're dead and dye in spirit,
has just become fully alive. Ifyou've never done this before, do it
now, like the scripture says,now today is a day of salvation.
Like the old country preacher says,don't wait until it's too late. Believe
right now, folks. Well,folks, it is no time for us

(50:49):
to go into our chaplain by bytestimony time. We either do a testimony
time when we give you a messageabout the end times that Jesus is coming
back soon. And today we're goingto do a testimony time with all people.
We're going to take Saint George,that great saint, that great third
century saint. That's right, helived during the you know, two hundred,
around two fifty to three hundred,that was his time on this earth.

(51:12):
He was a great warrior. Hewas today would be like a navy
seal or Delta Force someone like that. He or Marine their special opsc group.
Folks. He was a great warrior. I belonged to the Praetorian Guard
to protect the emperor. And yethe was also a devout Christian and a
great preacher and evangelist. And doyou know that his emperor, Diocletian,

(51:34):
was an emperor that had the greatestpersecutions of all the emperors against Christianity.
I mean Diocletian killed thousands, hundredsof thousands of Christians, and especially in
his own army. If anybody's armyfound out it was a Christian, he'd
kill him right there. And that'swhat happened to poor old Saint George.
He died as a martyr after havinglived a very faithful, in great life,
including maybe having slay a dragon thenet quite it could have been a

(51:54):
giant crocodile or something. We don'treally know, but there is some evidence
behind that story. He has beenso beloved around the world that he is
a patron saint for nations and cities, not just Mary Ole England. We
know he's England's patron saint, butmany of the cities, like Georgia in
Europe, but many other I meanthat country, and but many other countries

(52:16):
and cities in Europe, the MiddleEast and in North Africa. This is
amazing, folks. He's even agreat saint to the Muslims, which is
fascinating and amazing. So, folks, Saint George was quite a guy.
What a testimony he had. Thescripture says, by the blood of the
Lamb and the word of their testimony, they overcame the devil. Folks,
your life story is very important,important, don't count it short. And

(52:39):
the most important part will be thestory about how you came to know Jesus,
how you trusted him with all yourheart. You believe that he really
did die for all your sins androse from the dead. Again, if
you've never done that before, joinold Saint George and believe that Jesus did
die for all your sins, wasburied and rose from the dead. Well,
folks, it's not time for usto close as well to the mine.

(53:00):
Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye andGod bless all of the calling creal
goodbye. They think we just wastedour time for the med All three seven

(53:27):
say there's time for a creo goodbye,
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