BETTY FORD: PERSON OR PLACE? ft. Eleanor Kerrigan

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you guys want to come to the Eye of
the Tiger Tour?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Of course you do. You love supporting women in comedy.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
First of all, thank you so much to everyone who's
been bringing a friend out or a family member who
is not familiar with me to create a new fan.
We've been doing that together. Women need to work together
to get more women, to get more money in other
women's pockets and support more women artists, and so I
really appreciate that. Here are the upcoming dates for the
Eye of the Tiger Tour again, a brand new hour

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of stand up plus Chloe Labranch, who's a favorite here
on this show on every single show. Portland, Oregon, May fourteenth,
San Francisco, California, May fifteenth, Sacramento, California, May sixteenth, Seattle, Washington,
May seventeenth. That is pretty much sold out, so we
added a Saturday which is Saturday May eighteenth, in Seattle, Washington, Houston,

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Texas June twenty seventh, Austin, Texas June twenty eighth and
twenty ninth, and Salt Lake City, Utah, September twenty sixth.
Tickets are available at Corinnefisher dot com.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We will see you there.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome the Guys We Bought.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
The Anti slust Shaming Podcast. I'm Christina Hudgins, I'm Karen
Fisher and I'm yea cool bread. Bring us to sludy,
your horning and your shame.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hey was what?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Okay, talk about Greetings, fuckers, Hey, you doing where you've been?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Welcome to another episode of Guys We Fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's the anti slutshaming Podcast. I'm Karen Fisher, I'm Christina Hudginson. Guys,
there's there's tickets to sell, and please listen, please please
listen to what we're about to say. Stop doing what
you're doing, all right, and there's it's not just la,
there's more than that. So just keep don't fast forward
this part, all right. So first order of business is
Guys We Fucked Live May eleven, Saturday night at the

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Regent Theater as part of the Netflix is a Joke Festival.
This is a huge deal. It's a huge deal for us,
it's a huge deal for you.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, this is not the same show that you saw
the comedy stores. If you're at the comedy store, buy
yourself another ticket because it's a completely different EXPLI If.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
You love what we stand for and you're in Los
Angeles May eleventh, you'd show up, but you'd also buy
a ticket in advance, like right.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Now, if you think women deserve rights, okay, and going
into this election, that's something that you're gonna want to say,
really cute up.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
In the air, okay, is it's a toss up?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, this might be the last time you're allowed to
see women speak publicly for the next four years.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, so you're gonna want to come to this show.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, you want, guys, tickets, all the link Tree bios,
all all of our social media Lynkree bios.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Again, guys, we fucked the live podcast Saturday May eleventh,
nine to forty five pm at the Regent Theater Theaters
in the title because it's a larger room.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes, And we're gonna need you to buy those tickets,
and we know the numbers.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
You need to buy more tickets by more show up, Like,
don't buy tickets, don't show up, buy tickets.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Second order of business.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
If you've been fast forwarding the part where we do
tickets in the middle of the show, well gotcha, bitch,
because I'm doing them now at the top of the show.
I'm moving at a rest Ford. I'm going on a
fourteen city stand up tour. It's the Eye of the
Tiger Tour twenty twenty four. I'm gonna be at every date.
Chloe La Branch is featuring for me every date. It's
gonna be fucking fantastic. And these are the cities that
I really need to buy their tickets now. Okay, I'll

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do the all the other cities later. They're at crinfisher
dot com. But these these cities I need to hear
from you. Tampa, Florida, where you at? That's April seventeenth, Miami,
Florida April eighteenth, Atlanta, Georgia, April nineteenth and twentieth, Columbus, Ohio,
April twenty fifth, and Raleigh, North Carolina, April thirtieth, and
then followed by Philly and Boston.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's the first leg of the tour.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, So if I just heard said your city, please
buy the tickets sooner rather than later, because what happens
is these these we always fill end up filling the
room with actual not you know, not papering the room,
like actually filling it with people who know me and
know well.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
When we're on for guys.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
We fuck no, Christina too, like, but you'll wait last minute,
You're gonna it's a heart attack. My family, guys, we
already lost Dad. We can't lose Corinto. Yeah, okay, on man,
we don't have good accounts in my family. Please don't
put me under this stress. Thank you so much. Crinfisher
dot com. I the time your tours. Buy those tickets now.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I wish I was my mom.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I was on the phone my mom for like an
hour and a half last night and she was like,
I was.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Like, people always buy the tickets, just just don't buy
the day before.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I mean, like, you know, how do you feel
when a man asks you on a date the day before?
That's how I feel. Yeah, It's like like you were
a second door. But I'm less happy about it. Yeah, yeah,
don't make mommy man. I love. I mean living in
a major city, I can do this.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
But like, I love buying tickets to like our arts events,
like events, a comedy show, whatever the fuck in advance
for calendar. I always buy two tickets and I'm like,
and you know, sometimes I'm like, is it gonna be
a guy? I'm fucking who's coming with me? Is it
going to be a friend. Is it going to be
who knows to choose your own adventure? I do the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
You buy two tickets, and then you say, who would
appreciate this the most? Who am I feeling this way? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I love it, So give the gifts of laughter?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I just inspired myself.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
All right, guys, if you want to send us an email,
o'ts sorry about last night's show at gmail dot com.
Make that subject line interesting and descriptive, but honest. Okay,
this one says my forty three year old husband constantly
texts barely twenty six year old former co worker.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh okay, Well you're in a pickle, Lucy.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Haickerin and Christina, longtime fucker and luminary subscriber here. I
have a small clusterfuckery of feelings on my hands, and
I'm hoping your illustrious wisdom and insight can help me
untangle them. My husband is forty three years old. I
am thirty eight years ago. He moved back to his small, unremarkable,
to say, the least conservative Middle America hometown from a

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sprawling metropolis on the coast, and.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I hope you say it to him.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Hey, I really feel ah this was for a few
reasons irrelevant to this inquiry I won't get into, but
one of those reasons was being closer to aging family.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
During this time, he had to start over more or
less and worked as a manager of a big box
retail store. While working there, he befriended a much younger
employee who would have been about nineteen at the time
to his thirty six.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, and ship always blossoms in that age gap. You
had a lot in Calmon all his boxes.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
He insists, nothing has ever been there, and they just
bonded over mutual interests and like mindedness in a small
town where no one ever thinks outside the box or
has the same obscure knowledge of film and.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Music, the two of us, just us two in this
stillmass down.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's a straight up predator. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I side eyed this a bit because, sure, it's possible
to like cool and interesting things when you're in your teens,
but you also have no idea who you are, and
there's a lot of pick me energy lying around during
this time period in general. Sure, but I mean, let's
put the blame on your husbandsband not.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Barely legal tea her preferntal cortex still got six years
to go.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I of course was a bit alarmed at first
when we started seeing each other otherwise a few years
ago and I learned of her and how this twenty
three year old am I forty one year old boyfriend
at the time engaged in a whole lot of meme sending,
sending pet pics, sending.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Their dade helvies. But it's like the worst part of data.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And generally keeping each other updated throughout the week on
it work.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Happenings were happenings. That's gives a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Things they found amusing were funny, and discussion about local politics,
movie trailers for films they wanted to see, et cetera.
They both need friends. Yeah, all right, that was very descriptive.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
At the time.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was a little bit taken aback because these are
relationship be conversations that can build intimacy. I mean, it's
also friendship, but there's just friendship doesn't exist between people
of these two ages and connection, and I felt like
I wanted that space. When we first started dating. I
discussed it with him back then and he insisted they
were just like minded platonic friends and insisted that since

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he's by he couldn't have any friends if he followed
his sexuality as a guide for friendship. Really made a
convenient for himself there when the last time he had
let a fucking dick in his ass?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Are you how by? Are you? How man?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Is he and basically said it was just my heterodonormative worldview.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, mister Bai, give me a fucking education.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Wow, this guy is fully railing everyone else worldview growing
up in Middle America, that was informing my lack of
trust in male female friendships. This would make sense coming
from a gen Z person. Does not make sense from
someone in his age bracket. Don't believe it. I call bullshit.
He watched a gen Z interview one time and he
was like, I can use this for cheating the words.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, let me drop this down.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
He didn't have a good answer as to why he
couldn't have friends his age to lean on.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
He's no friends' age. That's hilarious, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I finally met her upon my insistence and him eventually
folding after I begged him repeatedly to invite her and
her then fiancee to dinner. We were meeting another friend
from his small town, who also gave me slightly slightly
flirty vibes with him.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
She was a relatively mature twenty seven to his then
forty one. Okay, well, also, you might just be really
jealous upon meeting them, because every I mean, everyone's trying
to fuck your boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, her husband.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Upon meeting them both, I was very disarmed by the
twenty three year old, and I found them both to
be genuinely kind and fun to be around.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, all right, they got ya.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Fast forward, him fingering her, I walked in, fast forward
to NetBox store.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And he's still engages with her a lot, the exact
no social media.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you look at his phone?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I guess like maybe, like it just keeps popping.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Up, like you, that's so annoying, right.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Like, yeah, change the name, I come call her brianum,
come on, Well, honestly, just because like there is something,
like if something really isn't going on, I think changing
the name is like actually fine because then it just
makes I know, it seems dishonest, but yeah, because it's
just gonna bother you, and especially if there really is
nothing there and you want to keep the friendship, Like

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people tell each other too much in relationships. Yeah, I
think you're fine to have your own life as long
as you know you're being chilly, because I do that
all the time. I just go they don't need to
know because I'm not doing anything. And social media. I
can't explain why it irks me so much. And I
never want to be one of those women who challenged
or confronted by confronted by younger women. And I've asked

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myself many times if it's my own fear of aging
that's forcing comparisons and making me feel envious, But I'm
not sure that's.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It when you're mad at her, not him. But also
I feel like, you know, if there's a problem, there's
a problem.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It doesn't really matter if she's twenty six or thirty six,
Like you know, like this, this level, this amount, this
volume of engagement, seems like a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
The now twenty six year old is newly single but
dating someone else, And my husband has always had a
very critical and dismissive tone towards the husbands and boyfriends
of his female friends, and dear reader, I love the
man and I believe everyone should have friends. Goddamn, does
this man have a fuck ton of female friendships, both
historically and presently.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, some guys just have a.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Lot more female friends because women are more pleasant, and
some guys just get along better with women.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
He could be also a very very like emotion, like
he is an emotional burden because those men love to
have female friends because men won't tolerate that behavior.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
True for men, right right right. On the one hand,
I love this about him.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
On the other hand, I get stringer revibes from some
of these female friendships. I don't know what that means.
Is it because stranger does? Does that make sense? And
I don't know what you don't do it? I don't know,
And I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
The kids Christina doesn't.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think he appreciates the attention and the excitement of
talking to attractive, younger women. Okay, but I also think
he has zero intentions of cheating and honestly believes he's
not being shady as long as they don't go further
than the occasional suggestive text and discussing their relationships. Yeah, yeah,
there shouldn't be an occasional suggest that this shouldn't be
a suggestive text. Yeah, Like I have like male my

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male friends like John for Instance's like really my male friends,
Like even though we fucked, but that was years ago, Like.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
God, I forgot I mean the years in the parking
lot of that really good sandwich store that was just oral.
But yeah, guys, we fucked.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
But yeah, I mean like we really are just and
have been for like a decade, and like there is
never anything suggestive, like the most like it'll go be like, oh,
like you change your hair, looks good, that's like the most.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, it's never.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Anything so you could tell when you witness two people's bond,
you could tell there's chemistry there.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Not yeah, they tell we are very close friends and
obviously like it's so funny like to describe our vibe.
Like most people who came into our store, they didn't
think we were dating. They thought we were married, so.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No NOx gerro sexual. They thought we were fully separate
bedrooms for decades. What should I do?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
The issue seems so full of gray areas and land mines,
and I don't know how to process and proted process.
I mean this is that's a very heavy word for
something that's like light and easily nipped in the butt.
Thank you, I love you, ladies and you bring so
much laughter and joy into the world. Keep on kicking
ass much love and anonymous fucker. I think you need
to confront your jealousy.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I think that's really gonna be the best thing, because
here's the deal. If he's fucking with this chick, you
gonna find out at some point, right. But it's like,
why have a bad time on the way to there,
you know what I mean? So like, really take this up.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Enjoy the ride to getting your heart broken. You should
teach a course.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You're very good at that, Yeah, just like enjoying the ride.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, I would I would use this, I don't, yeah,
because I mean if I would use this as an
opportunity to go like what is it about me? Like,
so all the self help like kind of buddhisty more
self help books that I read are like actually this girl,
Like there was an example I think it was maybe
a Pemichrodren one where if you experience jealousy, if you're
like a woman who gets really jealous and then you

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new coworker is in your office and she's hotter than you,
she's younger than you, she's she's elegant and great.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Everybody loves her. She's charming.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Ye, she's everything not and that that woman's actually a gift.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, not not an enemy. She's not the enemy.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
So this person is holding a mirror up to yourself
because these feelings are residing in you and there's nothing,
there's nothing that's pushing me over the edge here to go.
That's fucking weird. I haven't Yeah, you haven't said anything
that that.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I'm like, I just think it's you versus you
in the moment. And maybe your.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Husband's a piece of shit fucking around, but I don't know.
He could just like the attention of a younger woman.
Every man does. Every man does, I mean, get off
on it. I like the attention of a young hot
check me too.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Who doesn't like the attention of a hot chick?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I am like, yeah, I'm like boringly straight, and I
like the attention of a hot check It's yeah, I
feel so good when a hot chick is Oh my god,
I'm when to follow you on Instagram and you're like
what you have like over a million followers and kitties
are so good?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, follow me? It feels real nice. Are you gonna
date me?

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I'm like, wait, sorry, yeah, So he might just be
indulging in that. But either way, even if he is,
that's the first of all, he's not doing anything wrong still.
And two you gotta look at you, but you gotta
look in that mirror, you go, let's deal with this.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, I think for this email, I'll just bring out
one of my most common but I think useful pieces
of relationship for advice, which is like, you just need
to make the decision to trust someone sometimes, yes.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And so.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Married, If you can't make the decision to trust your spouse,
quite frankly, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, right,
And I'm not saying obviously husbands and wives deceive each
other all the time, but like there's there's I think
there's like very little here. And I'm not like not
saying that the gas that you are calling you, you know,
crazy or whatever. It's like this has been around a

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long time. So like either you do some like crazy
snooping or you just make the decision to trust your husband.
But what you can't do is can like continually ruminate
on it and continually bring it up, because that will
because that will tear the relationship apart from the inside.
And also there is one of these things where it
becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. So like right, like, there's

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probably nothing actually there, but if you keep saying, like,
are you fucking this chick, He's gonna be like, well,
I'm paying the penance of fucking this chick anyway, so
might as well fuck this chick.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
That happens so often. Yeah, yeah, and I've I get that.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I feel like if a guy I've heard of it
with a jealous guy that was like super jealous like that.
But if there if they if they kept asking me
if I was fucking somebody and I said no earnestly
and they kept asking me, I.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Would go fuck. I would FaceTime them as I'm on
the guy's dick.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It makes you want to fuck the person. Yes, it's crazy,
That's why I mean, that's one of the magic. The
biggest lessons I've learned from this show is if I
actually feel uneasy about a person, never mention them in
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Never bring them up. Never meaning like a person in
your partner's life.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
If I'm actually feeling uneasy about them, not a problem,
I never bring them up, never let them, never let
them see sweat.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. I never
bring it up.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
A hole runner looks weakness. It also makes you look
weak in comparison. And I know like sometimes looking weak
is strong, but in this instance it's weak.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, it's you're going to get attacked. It's not good.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, so I just make the decision. And it's Christine.
It's right, like if if it's something that is happening,
it will show itself.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, let him, let him show you who he is.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
But also too sometimes when it's that in between of
like there's no like crime committed for me to go, but.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
There's something weird and you can't pinpoint it. That is
a little nerve wracking. It's annoying, but it's so.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I do feel like like have like flirting with people
when you're in a relationship, especially a marriage, Like you
need to let your partner flirt a little bit. Yeah,
it's like it keeps it keeps them feeling alive.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I think you can't get that feeling to them, so
you might as well get somewhere else. Yeah, you know,
marriage sun cool guys. If you need group therapy, well
I'm not a licensed therapist, but I do have a
Patreon where.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
For a monthly fee.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You can talk to me once a week on Zoom
and it's really fun and the audio gets uploaded and
you can listen to it. And I really like the
space that we've created. So Patreon dot com slash Christina
Hutchinson if you're interested. My solo podcast, The Voices in
Our Heads, comes out every single Monday. We dive into
a bunch of self help books and just advice that's
completely changed the way I think, and a lot of

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stream of consciousness, a lot of and mighty big Dick
Don Coscarelli is on the show as well because he's
manning the board and he's boy, he's still got, he's
still making noises.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh I missed that ball dropping. Yeah, it's cute and guys,
very exciting news.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
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Speaker 1 (20:19):
Then if you want to see me. Obviously we talked
about at the top of the show because I forced
it on you at Trickya Come to the Eye of
the Tiger Tour twenty twenty four. It's my fourteenth city
stand up tour with Chloe La Branch. It starts April
seventeenth in Tampa, Florida, and the dates I didn't read
at the top, Moving forward Portland, Oregon, May fourteenth, San
Francisco May fifteenth, Sacramento May sixteenth, Seattle May seventeenth, Houston

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June twenty seventh, Austin June twenty eighth and twenty ninth,
and Salt Lake City, Utah, September twenty sixth.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Tickets available at.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Corinfisher dot com, also in the link tree link in
my bio on Instagram at Philanthropy gal So make sure
to get your tickets. Bring a friend, Bring someone I've
said this for DC and it really worked out well.
Bring someone who is not familiar with my comedy, but
who you think would like it. And it could be
your mom, it could be your dad, it could be
your boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Bring a man. I would love you to bring a
fucking man, a straight man. Make them.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I would love for you to do that. You know me,
I'm very masculine. I feel like this would work out.
But bring someone, because that's honestly, with people not being
willing to cold see a female comedian like local people
in town. I know it's giving you guys more work
as women, and that's not okay. But I appreciate it
deeply when you bring someone to the show who wasn't

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familiar with me, because I really think that me and
Chloe do a good show and I think that they'll
have a good experience. You know, I'm not going to
offer a refund if they don't, but I'm confident.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm pretty confident in this.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
And then also, you can listen to my solo podcast
without a Country.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh man, it's just been we did last week.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I did a whole reaction to Quiet on Set, the
documentary about the fucked up shit going on in children's
television in Nickelodeon. It's not Netflix, I will there's a
couple of places, but yeah, Max has it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And then I also, oh, this felt so good.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm gonna do a larger episode on this, guys, but
I think you u fuckers really want to tune into this.
I also last week the Washington Post did a huge article.
I don't know if I mentioned this last week, but
they did a huge article on all the propaganda about
a rest surrounding birth control.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
And I you know.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You guys know I love to come here on here
and tell you I was right. But there's a reason
that you've been putting up with me for ten years,
and it's because you fucking know I'm right. So all
the times that I said, don't use the pull out method,
don't use track period tracking apps. This Washington Post article,
chock full of information, fucking said everything that I have
been saying for years, that all this propaganda about birth

(22:54):
control fucking with you is like.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Made up shit, It's complete.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like it's been like uh and nothing like that. No
one's ever had a bad experience with birth control. Sure,
but like they've really amped it up and conservatives are
loving it and they're monetizing it, they're creating period tracking
apps and basically accidental pregnancies, and like women in their
thirties and forties have skyrocketed and it's all because of

(23:19):
misinformation on TikTok and Instagram. And goddamn, was I fucking
vindicated when I read this Washington Post article.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
More on it, but like, I wait, they're saying so
that the Washington Post article is saying like that women
don't go nuts on the pill.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
There's it's it's it's very amped up. And I was
thinking of you a lot because I was like.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
First fucking wanted to kill myself, trying to kill my boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I hear you, but you've also but you've also like
struggled with stuff outside of that. Yeah, yeah, So I
was thinking, like, how do we know it was that?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So I went back.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I was on it for eight months with Steven because
Stephen was begging me to go on the pill and
I said no.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And again for some people but again like it's not
it is, but it's but it's beyond that they're staying.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Also, yeah, women have been lined.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, I oh, and that's why that's why it
was unbelievable. That's why it was believable, because women were
so lied to by the medical industry. But basically, there's
a ton of misinformation on on TikTok about other ways
that you can prevent pregnancy that are completely acceptable.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And also this is not just the birth control pill.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I'm also including I U D's in this, So like
I U d's uh are totally great.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Uh, you know, real way to prevent pregnancy.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But everyone who is fucking emailing mean me being like
period tracking works, No, it doesn't, And I fucking knew
I was right, and the post vindicated me in a
period so good period tracks it's not a reliable No,
it's not reliable, and I knew it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I knew it. Like the idea of tracking your period
or these apps.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
No, period tracking to prevent pregnancy is not. It's nowhere
near as good as being on actual hormonal birth control.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, not even fucking close. R. I mean, yeah, you
can technically get pregnant anytime.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But the amount of emails that I government, no, fuck,
I just I sniffed out that it was proper ganda.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, there's so many layers to this.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
This is very comprehensive piece that The Washington posted. But
I just like, remember I was talking about like a
couple months ago, I said, I kept saying little things
like I was like, I've seen a lot of wellness people,
especially women, talking about like all of a sudden, there
was this like flood of how of like villainizing the
birth control pill.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it did feel like that, And I just said,
I smell fish.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Especially with what's been happening in our government and this
U trying to get more people, and this religious and
conservative takeover of women's bodies that has been re emerging.
I just fucking smelled fish.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
And I knew I was right.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I knew I was I felt it in my fucking heart,
so ha ha ha fucking bitch. But it's also like
when you are like right about something like that, it
just like really it continues to like just know like
I need to always follow my own intuition. Not that
I was ever thinking of getting off the pill. I

(26:02):
you know, for years, I've been on the pill, the
whole goddamn show. And it's the greatest thing that's ever
happened to me, you know, in my life medically, is
the of the birth control pill. Does help with a
lot of issues. Let me exists. But another thing is,
like you know, and again I talk about this on
the show at length, but it's it also it changed
history for women, The birth control pill agency changed history.

(26:25):
And there it's no surprise that you know, in the
in the nineteen sixties and seventies, things changed drastically socially
and politically for women. And that part of that is
because the birth control pill existed. Yeah, and exists, And
so again, only people know it's right for your own body.
I'm not at all saying like you definitely got to
be on it, but please don't believe this shit that

(26:45):
you're seeing online. Do your own research and test it
out for yourself. If it's something that you're interested in,
try it. If it makes you feel bad, if it
makes you act out, and so of course, get the
fuck off of it. But don't let what you're seeing
on social media scare you out of even trying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And this goes for any Also.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
The Bacebo effect of it like carries over to like
that's what I was thinking. You know, getting a hysteria
is not the right word, but like just kind of
getting a negative it's just negative bias. Our brain is
automatically on the hunt for negative bias. Automatically, we're searching
for things that that support.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
What we think. And if you keep hearing.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Birth control pills, bad, birth control bills, bad, birth control
pills bad, Oh you have.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Your friend like, oh, I'm kind of I don't know,
I just got on the pill.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Like, oh it's bad, it's bad, right, Like we're always
looking to connect the dots that well, just.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Like in life, there's a million in human existence. There
are a million reasons why you could become depressed or psychological,
and and so it's like an easy it's an easy
thing to blame. It's leasier to say, oh, it must
be the birth control pillandpoint you know over like, oh,
maybe things aren't working in my relationship, maybe I'm unhappy,
Like you know, there's a million reasons why.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So it's just like give another chance.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
And I've also just the same way as like you've
tested going back on it, I've tested. I tested going
off of it to see if it affected anything. It
affected nothing, not my weight, not my demeanor, not my
the way I thought about my partner, nothing, nothing, nothing,
And I stayed off of it.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
From several se you know, like three plus months.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think pasbo effect is so powerful though, that if
you're convinced that it's gonna make you psycho, it will.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah. No, I was thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Actually, that's that's why the propaganda is so powerful, and
I was so wary of it. But yeah, yeah without
a country podcast on YouTube and everywhere you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Man, I had a romantic, sexy little getaway plans.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I saw a sweet and I was looking forward to
this conversation.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I've unpacked all these sexy outfits, like sexy outfits, like
outfits that I put on and I'm like, god, damn, Christina,
y E look good. Uh, plus sexy outfits, yoga mats,
you know, just loaded the car.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
We're only going we were only going yoga. What's the yoga mets? Yoga?
Oh okay. I thought it was like a sex thing
I didn't know about. No, no, no, yo. Yoga mats
are for yoga. Come on.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
And uh, I timed my my Brazilian wax.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I got it late. I got it weeks late. Wow
hurts more when you do that. Yeah, but I wanted.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
A smooth pussy for this weekend and then I was
sitting on a toilet the waterfalls coming out of my
asshole while having a trash can. Poor Airbnb guys. Whatever, Uh,
just vomiting. I scream vomited for seven hours straight.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
What happened? I had a bug. It was a bug.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
So Colin got sick. Oh three days before, but in
the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
He just woke up, had to take a shit, had
a puke.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
And then went back to bed. And I was like, oh,
shit with that, like a food point, maybe ate something weird.
And then he felt crappy the next day and I
was like, oh, you know, take care of.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Him, and and I was fine. Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
And then three days later we get to the Airbnb
so excited.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
God, it's so. I got the Alien's Farting Color book.
I had that ready, ready, really comprehensive. We yeah, I had.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I had its loob just all these plans, all your
favorite things, yeah, all my favorite things. And I ended
up the whole the whole night. I woke up and
it was a it was maybe like one am. I
went to.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The bathroom and I was like, oh, that was not good.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
And I started puking and it you know when you
puke it's the kind of puke where you.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You just open your mouth and it's like a demon
comes out.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, It's just like, where did all that
liquid come from? I did got down the staircase in
my childhood home and there's still a little bit of
it on the rug.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Sorry, but you're like, that liquid would weigh more than me.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
How is that liquid in my body? I don't know
how it happened. The human body is amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well yeah, I got to see some of it sit
the weekend and.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Man, it was like it was a you know, pretty
nice airbnb.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Prayed played a pretty penny for the Airbnb with a
hot tub.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I was like, it's gonna be worth it because I
have some sex.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
That's all I wanted sex, and uh there was no sex.
I shipped my pants. I ship my pants. No, it's okay,
it's hilarious. You said, yeah, well that's apparently what's been
Yeah that apparently. I said it a funny way to
Colin as I was crying, and he started laughing, and I.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Was like, there's not the time to laugh. You're just
naturally funny. I don't know to tell you it's your gift.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Cool I have never I don't think i've I shipped
my pants like it was. It's like when you turn
on a garden hose on full blast, just zero hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's like a bikto ship. And I kept thinking, like
the song by Coldplay, like tears stream down your face
when you it's just stream of tears of ship down
my leg.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
So where did the poop the shipping your pants? Was
that inside or out? Just sitting or yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I was going to the bathroom. So the our bedroom
was right by the bathroom. That's not that's terrible. Was
that was my next question? Was it connected? That's awful?
It wasn't connected, but it was to Ja, Yeah it
was Jason. Yeah, same if I was.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
If I was in construction, I would do things to
help women.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And it's not that. Not that no, uh and uh.
And so it was in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I was so tired, but every I timed it at
one point every twelve minutes, I had to get up
and violently vomit. But then I would I would vomit,
and then the ship came a couple hours later.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's when you got to bring a pillow to the bathroom.
I was going to but.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
The poop smelled so bad in the bathroom, really, because usually,
like it went, it's your own pools.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I become accustomed to it.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Not this poop interesting, not this poop oh okay, And
then so and then yeah, so I started the shitting
at the same time. So I had I was thrown
up with the trash can, and I was like, fuck man,
to have liquids violently expelling out of both holes at
the same time. I don't think it's ever happened to
me before. Oh really, I don't think it's ever happened
to me.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
The combo.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I've done them, you know, real close, but not at
the same exact time.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I've puked in a trash can on the toilet and
not wold shit. Yeah. It was just very unique experience.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
And I would go, I was so exhausted, and I
so I wanted to die and uh.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And then I would go to the bed for my
twelve minute.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Break, and I would fall asleep for like eight of
those minutes, and I would fall into a deep, deep, deep.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Because you're dehydrated, Oh, so dehydrated.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
You would have thought I took a bottle of adderall
and smoked a volcano of weed. Like my mouth was sticking.
I'm like, this is fucking disgusting. My breast smelled, my
shit smelled the puke. When I Colin was like, it
felt like it was a heavy metal concert going on,
because you were like, like it.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Was, it was screen. I was that tiny. I popped
the van in my eye one time.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I can't believe my brains didn't pop out of my
I can't believe my balls did pop out of my
head like a pug.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
And I said so when I shipped my pants, I
threw them.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I just threw I'm like, oh no, it's so as
I was shitting and I took the pants off, and
then they had a fucking ring camera right where I'm like, god,
damn it, God damn it. And then I was like
all the bears. They were like, oh, the article in
the in the little welcome packet. They're like, don't put
anything edible out there. I'm like, I mean, shitty pants
aren't edible.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, they you know.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But also Kevin rubs his eyes in other dogs shit
when he sees it, and like out of a fondness
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
The fuck got dogs do that for? So I'm like
I don't know many.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Bears do that, but uh, yeah I was. I was
shitting the ship smelled so bad. And then you vomit
all the food up because we had this great dinner
because enjoy it twice, Yeah I did, and uh and yeah,
so it all came out eventually, over a couple of
hours took. The whole dinner came out, and then I
had nothing to me and then it was it was

(34:39):
just but the nausea while so, yes, the nausea was
so deep within my bowels and I just I'm like,
this needs to fucking get out of me, like I
don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And it was I was being driven to psychosis.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Like I didn't actually go driven to psychosis, but oh
my christ.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
It was the least hot weekend on my fucking life.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So this is just one how many nights were you there?
And this was just the one night. It was the
first night there. Yeah, and then the second night I
couldn't even walk. I could be like I slept all day.
I slept for like twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Oh. It was wild. And I'm still not I'm not
at eighty percent now.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I'm still like, uh, you know, I'm not going to
thrive in vomited since that one night. But you do
look extra thing. I feel extra thing. I'm like, oh God,
like I need. I would go to eat something and
I'm like, now I'm getting woozy, like and it's something
weird's happening where I When I'm lying down and then
I get up, that's when I get I get nauseous still,
and I'm like, that's weird, like changing physical positions of

(35:31):
like my stomach leaning a certain way, kind of stomach vertigo.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, so bizarre. So yeah, fuck it sucked. I was
so mad. And then by the end of the last day,
I was, man, Colin was so good.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
He was such a good I mean, and I was
trying to be a good sport about it. I was
laughing when I when I could, but I was really
just mainly sleeping. But he was great with me and
got me, made the food and all that stuff and
was like, don't worry about it whatever.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
But then I was so sleep deprived.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I was fucking starving and I couldn't eat because if
I if I was so nauseous that I would have
barfed if I right, what a hell? And I was
so tired. But with nausea, I can't go to bed.
And then I got a fucking micor borderline migrant, but
really bad headache from me hydra. Oh, I'm the heaving
is rough on your the heaving's rough, and all I
wanted was ice. And then I had a slice of

(36:21):
an orange the next day and my throat burned because
I'm like, I feel like I cut my throat.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I was screaming. So with the throw up, well that's yeah,
that's like there you can you can really fuck up.
Like that's why like bleiems have a lot of problems
with their yeah, with their voice and other nodes, I'm sure,
but yeah, there was a moment where I was just
so defeated because I was packing stuff back up.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like I didn't use any of this shit. I got
so pissed.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I was like, I'm just gonna go in the room
and cry because that's just what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
And then did call and see the stuff because I'm like,
if you hit it from him, then you could just no.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, he saw it. I told him about it.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Oh yeah, because well he bought some of the outfits
he bought for me, and he was really excited to
wear them.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I was excited to wear at the outfit. He didn't,
he doesn't wear.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Outfits, but but yeah, and I was so upset and
I just started crying and I'm like, fuck man, like
I'm just I just need to get this out. And
then I was just so cranky. But I'm really trying
to keep it to myself, like.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Really, it's just like trying to keep it to myself.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
But every little like trigger, not like psychological trigger, but
like I get angry real bad.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I get very angry. I get very I get.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
The maddest I get is when I have not slept
and when I have night eaten and I can confirm it.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
And so I'm like, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Keep it all to ourselves because no, no, no one
to get mad at. It's just it happens, like you
just fucking get over it. It's fine, sure, but uh,
I was crying so hard. And then I came out
of the room. He's like and he thought I was
crying because I was mad at him.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I was like, I'm not mad at you at all.
I'm just mad at that I was ship my fucking pant.
And then he started laughing.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
I got so mad because I wasn't not ready to
laugh at it yet, but then we eventually laughed.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
But my god, I mean, just don't don't don't.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Don't put too much expectations on a weekend away guys. Man,
you know, just don't put any expectations. I plan too much,
You plan too much? No plans, yeah, yeah, no play
because then you won't be disappointed, and whatever happens happens,
and it's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Also, we're there.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
It wasn't like a lunar o clips were supposed to
be letting the universe deliver.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well actually I pulled a card.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
No, so it's lunarrous first and then solar you're come on,
come on here, this is a fucking women's podcast.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Now, actually pretend that you care about our interests. I'm interesting. Yeah,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah uh yeah right. And I actually pulled a card
for a taro cover myself last night, and and it
was like yeah, this, this, this time for you is
about like receiving, like let things.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Come to you, and like, you know what, fucking fine.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I thought you pulled one other weekend and it was
an asshole.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
An exploding volcano of chocolate.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Oh yeah, it was a man. Wow, Wow, it was.
I don't think I've ever been that sick of my life.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
That's that's the sickest I've ever I used to get
that sick as a child. Yeah, I used to get
violently vomiting and I have to go to the I
went to the ear all the time as a kid.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I feel like when you're a kid, there there's like
always something that happened. For me, I was like I
got a lot of nose bleedes. Like there's always something
going on when you're like a kid that you get
like a chronic thing your body's trying to like adjust
to just being in the world. Yeah, and it's like,
don't like this. Yeah, I threw up a lot too.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I was a big thrower upper. Yeah I think I was.
I was mixing weird foods a lot. Well, I mean
you know what it's maybe it was like the kind
of like uh, foreshadowing for like all the problems I
would have with food later on and like not being
able to metabolize certain things.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So yeah, but yeah, damn, yeah it was. It was.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I'm like, I'm still shook by how sick I was.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, I'm still like whoa, But one thing. That's kind
of nice about being sick.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You have to walk a lot slower, and you talk
a lot slower, and you think a lot slower.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I like the pace. Yeah, it's like COVID all over again.
Yeah right, I never I don't think I ever got
well no, no, no, it's like that. I didn't get
it either.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
It was it's it was it was like the period
of like existing, right, Yeah, it's just well yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
But like when your body is physically sick, like you
can't you can't rush, you can't, you can't over work,
you can't work, you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Like that's sick. You just can't do you just sleep.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
When I was like really sick with the flu, like
a month ago, when I like left the studio, I
text you guys, what the fuck happened?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh yeah, it was like I was.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
It was annoying because I had so much to do
when I lost a week, But it was also like, yo,
I physically can't do it.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Shit, so you.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Can't even like lift, like you're lifting your hand hurt. Yeah,
Like it's just like I where'd the energy go? It's
all drained from me? Yeah, that was kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
The slow pace.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
I was like, I gotta order steam loves. Yeah, oh yeah,
I guess. But yeah, we went for a hike. It's
just walking like a fucking ninety nine year old.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
What did Colin do while you were sleeping? Uh? He's
editing his podcasts. Okay, yeahs.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
He had stuff to do, and I thought we weren't
going to bring computer, and he brought his computer. Very
glad he brought his computer because I was like, damn,
do you would have just been alone with my sex
outfits and the yoga matt not much to do with that,
not much.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
She could have written a song about that. That's true.
He did bring his guitars, but I was.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Just, oh, so oh god, you really think you're just
going to be covered in bodily fluids of the other
persons out of their sexual organs, not your own butthole.
But you know what, Damn, sometimes it happens. Sometimes life
serves you a little putting pudding pie.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
In your pants.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Wow, you guys, I think you guys reached the next
level of your relationship.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We get along so well. I think that's very comfortable.
I think that's what that did for you.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Maybe because I yeah, maybe because I don't really I
still haven't fart in front of him.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well, I think you made up for that this weekend. Yeah,
maybe you heard it. I mean I didn't care. I
think maybe explosively.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
It's not anything like anxiety, Like I just want to
keep that for me. Yeah, you know you love farts.
I love farts to you. I also like still being
attracted to each other in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's very valuable. Extremely Yeah. How you doing?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
What what a week? Last week was? You know, the
longest week of my life? And then not like not
in a bad way, just in like you know, you
forget it as an artist.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
How little physical labor we do? You know the hardest
thing I.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Do usually in my day is putting the putting the
carry on over my head, which is hard. The way
I packed very hard.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, you get a guy to help you? Yeah, I
do allow.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Uh so you know what, even if someone doesn't offer,
I just say can you help? Yeah, I just like
to pick someone like it like it's an emergency.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Jo you in the red hat?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
No? And uh yeah, so I you know I spent
the week shutting down. Uh my brick and mortar perfectly sundered,
which you've heard lots about it was, you know, over
three years of John can Upanelli and I working on
that tour.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean what I love.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I love a challenge, guys, this is something about me.
I love a challenge. I love a seemingly impossible endeavor.
I love something that's really going to just take all
my time and attention. And like this was always a
temporary thing. Like, as I've talked about before, I put
a five year absolute cap on it just because I
But then you get into it and you're like, this

(43:26):
is it was. I knew it wasn't be a lot
of work, but it was like more, it was more
work than I could have even have imagined. So I mean,
there were so many things going on, and.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
It made me.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I mean, it really helped me grieve the loss of
my dad in like a very beautiful way. I mean, like,
I know, everyone will not have the opportunity to go
through a collection, you know, a special collection.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Everyone goes through.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Dead people's stuff, But this was like, this was like
things that my dad had collected rather than amassed. And
I think there's a big difference there, Like it's like
he had curated his life through the things that he loved.
And I would find things and I'd be like, oh,
I know this was meant for me, or I know
this was meant for my mom or my brother or
his brother in some cases, and so it was really special.
And he had written, you know notes. He was very

(44:11):
funny guy and written notes all around the you know.
So the process of moving the store from rosel Park
to Larchmont was incredible.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
And then yeah, and then just be owning a shop.
I had always wanted to own a store, and I mean,
like most times it did feel like I was out
playing store. Yeah, yeah, I mean, god, there was so
much and there's so much behind the scenes work you
have to do at a store, you know, insurance, especially
when you have employees, and accounting, and I mean I
learned so many fucking your skills in the past three years.

(44:40):
Just a lot of new skills and learning how to
promote your business and getting new customers and customer appreciation,
customer retention and doing things you know, and you know,
also learning in new business because it's like not like
just a store where you sell like things that you know,
It's like there is a business within the business. So
it's like you're tackling small business, but you're also like

(45:00):
the sports card and collectible industry. I'm pretty familiar with collectibles,
but like sports cards, that was a whole other thing.
So I'm just like constantly learning. And I really did
impress myself with the way. Like you know how when
you like they're say, if you're learning a new language,
you should just go to that country and you're gonna
impress with yourself because you're gonna know more Spanish than you.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Thought you knew.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
That's kind of how I felt about sports cards. Like, so,
I'm like growing up with it. You know, it's you know,
my parents opened the business when I was you know,
not even a couple months before I turned four, And
I remember I talked about it with my mom yesterday.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I remember I remember being in.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
The store, lying on my dragon pillow as my parents
put together the same shelves that you know, made it
to the dumpster this weekend. But when you know, so
I saw the entirety of the story, its entire life,
which is like pretty cool to see a huge project
from start to finish in that way over the course
of you know, thirty five years. But uh yeah, so

(45:57):
just so many new things and and also like going
in that deep. I mean, obviously I'm in that, you know,
deeper than that in a business with you, but there
are elements to a brick and mortar that actually surpassed
things that we've done for guys we fucked, and so
I got deep, got deep into business, uh with with John.
And I mean, you know, it wasn't always easy, but

(46:18):
it really like, you know, it's gonna test the boundaries
of your of your of your friendship and your relationship.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
But it's like it makes you feel so.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Good when you can get through a feat of that
size together, especially with all the added emotion of you know,
you know, dealing with me, especially in like you're the
first year of it, when I was like really really depressed,
and I knew this about myself. I knew like certain
things would trigger me, so I like sometimes like if
a customer was like asking annoying questions about like an

(46:47):
object that was like very personally important to me and
my dad, I would just like literally go to the
back room and be like, you know, just handle this
for me. But I mean, yeah, it was a really
cool living more for my dad, and I don't for
one second regret doing it. And I mean as I
was putting the key in the door the last time

(47:08):
on Saturday leaving, I.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Just like looked at his face.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I didn't cry as I was leaving, but I cried
a lot of times throughout the weekend.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I kind of knew. It's like almost other people knew
more than me, especially my you know.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I was wanting to James maddern a lot, and he
you know, his parents are are dead, so he just
gets it. But he was kind of like, hey, like
are you okay? And I mean there was just different points,
like the night before and like before I went to
work for the final day on Saturday, Like I definitely
just did sit in my bed and just like have
a good cry.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
But it wasn't like a like I wasn't, you know,
a maintenance cry.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah. I didn't feel like I failed in anyway. I
feel like I succeeded, like with exact you know, because
people love projecting, you know, so it's like I didn't
become a millionaire a second time over. So other people
look at that, Oh did you feel like go No,
I was like, what I was looking to get out
of this? I got out of it tenfold. I just
I know me that's you know, we good guys. You

(48:07):
guys know that's my skill. I know me And I
knew number one that if I had something that I
was as passionate about, well, I do have something, but
like if I was, as you know, if I died
and left something I was really passionate about unfinished, I
would want someone to finish it for me. So there
was that, Yeah, I wanted you to do that, do that
for my dad. And then number two was just like

(48:29):
I knew that it would be a way to heal
in a much more full way than I would have
been able to if left like completely to my own devices,
or if we had to just like quickly sell off

(48:51):
everything in his store. And then also third, like you know,
I just really wanted to get my hands.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
On that store.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I always always ask if my dad if I could
work there, and he's like, you're gonna break everything. I mean,
very delicate, so I understand, but like I just had
always wanted to have a store. So it was it
was a lot of things in one that's a.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Cool creative like you can creatively make it whatever you want.
It was the layout was so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Thank you, and also just like it was fun to
walk in. I wanted to be fun. I wanted to
be clean because it's woman owned and most hobby shops
are filthy, and I wanted, you know, I wanted people
to really like so many people are just like trying
to make a quick buck, and I really wanted to
because I always you know, I used to say, you know, Dad,
we could have been rich. But you know now as

(49:35):
an adult, he did the store the way the store
should have been done. If you want to get rich,
don't open a hobby shop. That's not what it's for.
It's for nostalgia, it's for it's for experience, loving like
loving things. It's for teaching, like something that is not
work related to your kids.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Like there's so many things.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
To it, and I just like I hate when people
only go into it and money, Like sure are things
like pawn stars cool when like every now and then
you'll find something ou a garage shale and you know
it'll be worth twenty thousand dollars, Like yeah, that's cool,
but like that's not what you have to go into
it with it is. It seem as like if you
go into comedy because you want to be famous, you
should go into comedy because you love comedy, and if
you become famous, you become rich as a byproduct of it,
then that's fine. But if your goal is to be famous,

(50:17):
and I learned this, you know, the hard way, Like
it's like it's gonna feel dirty and gross and inauthentic.
Like so I just feel like I was able to
share like the joy that my dad had around collecting
with other people.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
It reinvigorated my joy for it.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Cause it's like a part of my family history that
I've always been so proud of and so excited to
tell people about.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah, it was just great. Again.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I don't I truly don't know how I got passed
through the past three years, like especially when comedy fully
came back and do it, Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
I remember you would come to the studio with like
your You're like I have to tally up the sales, Yeah,
on a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I'm like, damn, girl, I just don't.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Like I just looked at the space like I just
don't even know how we fucking did that, but we
did it, and it was it also just uh stubborn,
me being stubborn. I fucking I was like said I
was gonna do it. I'm gonna fucking stuff I go
down really store. I'm gonna go down with the store.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Stubbornness is potent. Yeah, stubborness will make you move states.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, and we and a lot of unexpected things came
out of it too, like we became really good friends
with some people in the town. I saw I saw,
I mean, I felt like I saw children grow up.
Because when you have kids who are like nine coming
to the store, like you're gonna see them really if
it's three years, like they're really growing.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
During that time. I saw, you know, I saw boys
become men.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I remember the way we were there for the opening
and there was all these like nine year old ten
year boys and then like then they'll bring their dads, like,
hey kid, what's your dad's deal?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah? A lot of dads tried to fuckt me.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I didn't fuck any of the dad's dad, thank you
so much, really proud of myself.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Did not fuck one dad. And man, some of them tried,
some of them.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
How hard did the hardest one try?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I mean, innu windows still are direct.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
No, I mean just using like asking about like what
horror movies like that he I should recommend to him?
As a chance to talk about sleeping in my nighttime dreams.
He was the hottest one though, So it's gonna be anyone,
and let's be the guy who looks like Matthew McConaughey, right, oh.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
But I'm like, I'm like, dude, if you weren't married,
like this would be great and if I didn't know
your wife, like, oh, it's a married Dade whatever. Yeah.
The thing is also I don't want to spread rumors
because like they probably he has he probably is a swinger,
but like, you need to make the information clear to
me at at the at the front of.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
It, otherwise we're stepping off the foot of deception.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
But yeah, I got like word that, like a lot
of people in Larchmont were like swingers.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Like it just it was just fun.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
It was just just like a it's so different from
where I grew up because it's a lot wealthier.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
And Hollow or stars Hollow or something. Yeah, well stars
Hall a small town.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
They don't have a lot of money there, but like, yeah,
they don't know they like they yeah they yeah, because
her grandma live and it doesn't live in stars Hollow.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I know too much about that show.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it was that's cool.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
It's just my town kind of experience, kind of got
to experience like living. You didn't live there, but like
you kind of did.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
It was such a nice respite from the entertainment business
that was my fear. I was like my hideaway. I
didn't wear makeup, I wasn't crinfisher comedian. I was just
like I would actually like when people were kind of
rude to me because I was like, oh, it feels good.
I haven't experienced this in a while, you know, because there's
so much ass kissing in this industry. It's just nice
to be treated like a fucking fucking person, cash wrapped bitch.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Another pieces ship behind it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, every now and then I would get annoyed and
be like, I'm a little famous, so maybe just don't
be so rude to me. But not that you shouldn't
be rud to anyone, but yeah, wow, what a what
a wild ride. And we still have an EVA store
and I'll I'll still talk about it, and I want
to kind of make the page I think, like a
memorial to collectibles and because it really just like reinvigorated
my love for that. But yeah, I mean listen, you

(54:00):
get another venture into a male dominated industry.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
It was nice, fan.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I'm I'm relieved to be done with that part of it.
But what a fucking wild ride, don't I do not
regret it for one second. So fun, so incredible, and
thanks to all the a lot of fuckers and wacko's
came to the store over the past three years.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
So thank you so much came. You gotta go on
like a vacation or something, so like a trip or
something I do. I do well.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I think I'm gonna try to go to Japan my
friend because my friend's moving.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh cool, Oh my god, Japan.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, right now, I'm just the do comedy. I had
the tire tour twenty twenty four. You know else is
doing comedy O yues yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
She's good at it.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Oh my god, geez good.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
She's so good. And I was like, damn, I'm excited
to interview this lady. She's really cool. Yeah, the stories
she has never would have.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Saw that comed and just kind of like a fucking
comedy icon legend, like just to just someone who like this,
this is someone who's it gets it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
She started at the Comedy Store back in the day. Okay,
back in the day. She's an actress.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Uh, she's you've seen her on HBO, v H one
Howard Stern.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
And she has a new stand up special out on
YouTube that you can watch for free right now called
No Country for Old Woman, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Please welcome to.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
The show, eleanor care again it has turned into you
that it's a fresh convo.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
It used to be it used to be so real
and raw, and now it's like again, was a camera,
Oh yeah, camera lipstick on?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
This is it's all. It's all a sham, everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
When I went to the vacuum downstairs the light, I
was like, oh shit, I tried to put live gloss
on its.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Fluorescent light should be illegal. It's fake.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Well, I'm also choking on my own arm pits because
I stopped using like any deodorant tested on animals, which is.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
All all them, all the dedorants that work is the
So now I just like have incense sticks that I
rub under my arm pits. Jesus good. Nope, no, keep going, No,
this is a content.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Eric, Why I wanted to somebody else did a joke
about this.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Beat me to the punch. But I'm like, I used
to think, like when.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
They tested like lipstick on beagles, they will put lipstick
on beagles lips like you're.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Not you're So many people have said that to me
because I'm talking on their That's why.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
That's why I have to make it clear. I'm like, no,
they just put to a skin test, right, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
A lot of times they're shaving and they're burning their
skin and then they you and they euthanize them. Basically
even if they don't need to be like, even if
like they could go on and live a life. They
euthanize all the tested on animals.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
It's so disgusting.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, that's why I talk about it a lot. You
should all girls. I don't think I knew that really
it's bad, but I wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, And I just feel like that's like I like,
I'm not gonna I feel like it's a mistake. When
like people start at like go vegan, I go no, No.
You have to start at something that feels manageable for people.
And I think to like look on a bottle and
see if it has the leaping bunny is very manageable,
whereas saying like redo your entire diet.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Is that's not that.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
I really try to make like animal welfare and stuff
like approachable for people accessible.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
So if it has the would you say the bunny?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
So yeah, there's a lot of times on the on
the back of a product, the will be a little bunny.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
It's called like the leaping Bunny.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And that is basically a list of cruelty free hair
and beauty products. And so Fura has gotten really good
over the years about marking it on all their stuff,
like in store, because I remember years ago I used
to be the annoying chick who would go in and
like ask someone and they would have to personally tell you.
But now everything is like marked And there are plenty

(57:41):
of brands that do a lot of the high higher
end ones like you know, Eve, Saint Laurent, stuff like
that. That's a lot of French stuff and that's all going
to be tested on animals. Oh really, most of that's
I don't support.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
The really high end is really hard.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
But like you know, like the former cat von Dee beauty,
But whoever the hell owns that now you know it's
not her know anymore?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
No, she got she said a lot of heavily racist
things a lot. She just had a lot of bad
stuff and then but she just so she doesn't own
her brand anymore. But her her brand is great. Urban
decay is good. Yeah. Are you? Are you vegetarian?

Speaker 1 (58:18):
El?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
No? No, okay, sorry?

Speaker 3 (58:20):
God, Like sometimes they'll be like driving by, Oh look
cute the cows aren't. My niece who is vegetarian, will
be like, enjoy your sake. I'm like, oh I did, actually,
like I just I'm terrible.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
But yeah, no, I think it's just like baby steps
and like just knowing a little bit more. Again, I
don't think it to say stop everyone stop eating meat
right now?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Are you guys vegetarian? I'm almost almost vegan.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I love animals, God, I love animals for the people,
But my stomach I just start. There's just about ten
years ago, every time I would eat be for porkou vomit,
I'm like, all right, we're done with this. And then chicken,
I'm like every time I.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Eat it, I'm pescatarian again, Like I have like a
I literally can eat any pescatary fish. So I eat
fish yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I have like I
cannot I can't basically eat any carbs really, So like I,
it would be really hard for me. I can't really
eat fruit, so I would just be eating literally vegetables

(59:27):
and not even all of them.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
So we gotta do what we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Things like mussels are really good for my autoimmune disorder,
So like muscles, I'm like muscles that I don't think
they're living a really full life.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I think we can.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I think I think like mussels and stuff like that,
we can eat. That's okay. I never had seafood.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
You've never had seafood? What? Wait? I know that's wild.
Have you had tun You've had tuna? Fish? I think
once or twice. I don't want what's going on here.
It's just not a seed food.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Oh if you've had go to like a gourmet restaurant
gets scallops, Holy ship. I was somebody that like a clam.
I can't eat clams and muscles. I will vomit looking
at them. It's yeah, But scallops, Oh my, It's the best.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Thing I've ever had. They don't smell fishy. But the
thing is they they on the on the tongue haste fishing.
The consistency is weird. And I'm a big consistency. It's
a little chewy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
The first time I ever had carbs. I don't mind
being the fat funny friend. You're not fat kidding like
it's like catch, it catches up. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Also, people whose bodies work normally can eat carbs like
it's not normal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
There's something wrong. I'm broken. There's something wrong, a little broken.
But yeah, what's your broken.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I'm just born. I was born broken, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
number eight out of tank spirits. Yeah, so you just,
you know, just no attention on you. I guess that's
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
That's why you're a comedian. I'm maybe yeah, yeah, I
talked to myself a lot too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I talk to people, do it more. Yeah, I'm seeing
throw it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I don't even try to hide it anymore. And then
I be like, don't even know. No, don't look for
air pods because they don't exist. And I have full
conversations either a dog, like all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah, I know, but at least a dog.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Is there somebody I'm seeing my there, people walking by themselves.
Just this guy the other day, he was just maybe
he was in a person. He was like running a
restaurant or something, and then he just was outside talking
to himself, then went back like he had the conversation
he needed to have with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Sometimes he laughed so hard.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Sometimes you can't think of the thing to say back
to the person until like later and you're like, oh,
I'm gonna say it out loud anyway, Or.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
They try to rehearse something. You're like, yeah, tonight on stage,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
It's gonna I'm gonna do that, and then this, and
then you're like, go on stage and none of that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yeah, on the way I said, I'm always doing a
full monologue to myself.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Oh yeah, but I'll relive an embarrassing moment from like
ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Why you, Oh, I won't. I don't like it. Okay,
I don't like it. You had an answering. This is
still on the shelf. I'm like, yeah, there, you didn't
hide it properly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I'm very open to being embarrassed. It just happens too
much that I'm like, I gotta get used to it. Yeah,
it's a bad feeling, but whatever, it's not going away.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I think it went away kind of early because, yeah,
because my brothers would embarrass me continuously, like you know,
just your growing up and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, or like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I remember this specifically my mom, I was very tomboyish,
but obviously you know, growing up with the boys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It was just she had four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Boys in a row and then me. So I was
just like, oh wow, so I was butch. Butch, Like
I joke about it that I wanted to transition when
I didn't know what the word meant. I just knew
I wanted to be a boy. Oh I hate it
being a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Product of your environment. It's like told your versus nurture.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I grew up with a brother and a dad who
loved cars, and I can like, I love I'm obsessed
with cars.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I'm sexually attracted to muscle cars.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
But I learned it from them. If I grew up
with them, I would I wouldn't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Probably no, you wouldn't even look at them whatever, like
but like like simple things like girl stuff, barbies, things
like that. I don't remember it. Like if we had them,
they ripped their heads off and we color them in
and use them to scare people.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Like just they try to turn against you and you
joined them, Yeah, I just you can't beat them, join them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, And then I had a little brother and a
little sister, but she was just thrown in with the
boys as well. Yeah. Yeah, man, she's not as like
sports oriented as I. Like, I could have only watched
sports like I watched what they watched. I watched basketball
day football. Like my little sister's like, I don't give
a shit about that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
She was just like I don't care. I can't believe
I'm born into this bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
The least amount of right, probably the least amount of
like spoiled Carter.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I spoiled her because also the older half had to
take care of the younger half.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Yes, yeah, like many parents.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, so like my sister Kathleen would always be like,
well I raised Eadie. I'm like that's hilarious. But my
mom's like I'm right here a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Bit what he is saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
But she but it was they always had her because
it was like cool to have a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah I'm cute. Yeah yeah, Like you look at my
little sister, like, how cute she is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah like para, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
The best My absolute fight face was your mom stressed
out with that many kids a little yeah, especially since
my dad left there was it was a one parent household. Yeah, yeah,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
I was like eight. He only moved a couple of
blocks away. But he's just kind of an ass.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Did he send money at least? No? What for? What
for about?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I want to say it lasted almost a year. He
would say he would give her one hundred and ten dollars,
which is ten dollars a kid, plus ten dollars for
her a week, and then he would take us out
for pizza on Thursdays or like McDonald's or something. But
it didn't last a full year because we were like
what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah? Does he do it? He stopped hanging out with
them or you just move away?

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
No, he just stayed right there. We had a work
for him in the he owned the typewriter store. Boy,
the hits just keep coming and the mental illness.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Is a typewriter's store. Oh wow, okay, I love this. Yeah,
he had a typewriter store in South Philly on twentieth
and Porter, and we had to work there. But there
was no business, like it was dying then.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Yeah, So we would like come up with different ways
to fall asleep, you know, so we would have like
paper towels and shit. Yeah, but it was like a
real work shop, you know what I mean, Like we
called it the shop. Yeah, we repaired typewriters and it
was nasty in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
There, and we need oil and stuff. Like it's like,
oh yeah, gross.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
He would make us spool the ribbons, so our fingers
were black for a while, but he would leave.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Huh was he like mean? Like how is his demeanor?
He was hit or miss you know, because he was crazy.
He was marine, so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
He was very disciplined, oriented, and he hit us a lot.
He hit the boys worst. He always says to me,
did I hit you girl? He doesn't call us by
her names. It's boy or girl.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Okay, he probably forgets I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Did become California girl, So I'm like he noticed, okay,
But so yeah, he doesn't say our names ever except
my sister Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
That's the only one. Is that his favorite? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Okay, she's the first girl I was gonna be second. Yeah,
she's the biggest family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Now that's the baby. She all tit. She's all tit,
big top eighty. That's what we call her. Your family.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Oh yeah, we torment each other, That's what I mean
with the embarrassment, Like we just would throw each other
under the bus, but you know Billy with me and
Billy are very close like Irish twins, and so he
would tell, oh, my sister has a crush on you,
and then I come like running up with a full
all dirty like what and I'm like, I'm going to
tackle him. That's how I'm gonna get close to him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
But the boys were like, what, I can't I don't
like the one kid. I had a crush on this kid,
Albert I was obsessed with him. And he had a
problem with this kid on a football team. There was
Saint Monica's football team, and so he goes, I'm gonna
go talk to him, like go, yeah, let's go fucking
talk to him, right. So I'm thinking this is a relationship, brave,

(01:07:29):
and we wound up beating up the whole football team,
and I'm like, we're definitely dating now, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
There is someone together that does bond a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
He never liked me though, we just thought I was
He's like, you have feelings for it, and then we
just our friendship and damn damn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Wait, how'd you beat up a whole football team? Real easy?
They were pussies, were taller than them. I was always tall.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Yeah. I'm like, well, I'm like five eight, but I
grew up in South Philly, so that's gigantic over there, right,
because everyone's small and it's Italian, and he was Albart
he was smaller than me, so I was I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Like, your yeah, five is like first model height. That's
like the shortest you can be as a model.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
You made it. I try, you came off. I tried
to do like that topic that. Have you ever seen
fies for Family though Burr's cartoon? Yeah, so I love that.
It's great because it reminds me of my dad.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
My dad was military, got drafted, very draft temper. Yeah,
when he's eighteen temper, really bad temper, but very disciplined,
but also like so distant, so emotionally distant. I'm like, oh,
that kind of dad just fascinates me. Like did you
ever get to know it is your dad still?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Oh no, No, I'm very close to my dad, Like I
stayed close.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
My dad's still around. He's eighty eight. I talked to
him on the way here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
I just had to check in on him because he
gives me, you know, I need the material stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I'm down ten bucks, dad, right, I hope you're making money. Girl.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I'm like, yeah, Dad, we figured it out. That's for helping. Yeah,
But I don't like I remember this is a testament
to my mom. I remember, like he would call it
was like when he first left. So again, I'm like eight,
like we're wild. We were wild and my mom had
to figure it out and get like fifty jobs and

(01:09:15):
you know, you know, so we were like in the
streets if you will, especially the bottom half. Then the
older half would catch us and beat us up. But whatever,
you know. So I was on the phone with him
and we're talking. He's like, what are you doing girl,
you know, trying to be the dad thing whatever. And
then I said, okay, okay whatever he was talking to
me about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Maybe it was a birthday or something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
And I hung up and I rolled my eyes and
my mom was like, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
That's your father. Wow. And I was like, this fucking asshole,
yeah left, like this house is a zoo. Respect me. Yeah,
But she was like, no, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
You're doing it for me and you have to have
your own relationship with him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Oh that's very help. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
So she didn't like ever say, you know, oh, your father,
this or your fuck do you know what I mean?
She just was like, Okay, I have to get a job,
a real job, and I have to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
So she did.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
She was a secretary for the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
And then she worked for the Phillies and the Eagles
as a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Beer girl for years.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yeah, and then I know, and then she worked for Strawbridges.
I'm going way back. It's like a it's like wanna
make or whatever. No, she worked for Wannamakers as well.
Like she would switch it's the same, it's like Macy's whatever.
But John Wannamaker's was in Center City and Strawbridges was
right next to it, so she would go to both.

(01:10:41):
And one time she was just like reading a book
because she was bored, and this guy came over and
he's like, can you put the book under the thing
and she's like yeah. She's like uh okay, yeah okay,
and she just put away. He goes thank you, and
she goes, what's your name and he's like, mister Wannamaker.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
She's like, well, sorry, excuse me. It's like the time
trying to read. Yeah, that's so funny. Get some customers.
Fuck her. So your mother was stable. Yeah, seemed pretty stable.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Mentally good, seemingly like it's incredible because I think she
held it together so long and now she's like eighty
six and all of a sudden, like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
She's like, I don't want to get up, I don't
like she's depressed. I really believe she held it in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
And now it's now it's separate. It's been the past
like two three years. Wow, A lesson in repression.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Yes, yeah, and I we my older sister passed away
and she got like a little depressed, thank you. But
she got like depressed a little bit after that. Yeah,
and then we she was young enough to like still
like do stuff, so she would get out more and
then she got over it like it was good. And
then all of a sudden, this last three years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I'm tired. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Is it like you think it's like mortality. I feel
like sometimes people have a really tough relationship with more
like like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Looming mortality, right to die. That's different. Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Okay, that's classics, Like please, I know classic. I'm like, hello,
this is one on one vibeah. I do this all day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
But when you're eighty six, I think maybe like we're
hoping to die is a little like it doesn't have
to be depression.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
It can just be like we're just time. Yeah. I
would do drugs, hard drugs. That's my goal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Why not, that's your listen. I don't know mine too.
I don't want to make it to sixty. I'm good
with going out so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Young, sixties young, I'm good. I just met Yakov Smof,
who's seventy three. Yao's a great guy though. He was
like oddly hot. I got some text about it. Yeah,
he's an energy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
About him that it is like unbelievable. What is this about,
Like seventy three. I'm like, you make me excited to
be in my seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
He was vibrant, he was present. He was more present
than most people I know in their fifties and sixties.
I'm like, it's a man. Yeah, it's Russian. Yeah yeah, Russian.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
He just comes from a different background. But he's a
hard word a house.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, you're the second.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Person that told me about Yakov.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I love Yako. I love Elsey for him, No,
just saying what an inspiration? Yeah, it was a guy.
He wasn't too horny for him, but Ian uh finance. Yeah,
horny for him. Actually that's weird. I forgot so grady
but always trying to get our ship and no.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
But he was just saying how he met him and
he was such an inspiration. Yeah, and I go, yeah,
because he's still in Branson, right, he would come three.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Thousand seat theater in Branson and he owned theater and
the kids really love and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
There they're a little like it's Bible Belts where he lives.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
And so he's like, you know, because he's starting a
new podcast called on the Couch, I think put the
AcOF I believe, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Uh, good for him. He's an incredible interviewer.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
We've done podcasts for ten years, like we've done thousands
of podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
When someone interviews.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
You like it really does the research and sits down
and thinks of like really formulated thoughtful questions, you're like
blown away.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
He he did.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
He touched myself that and he was like, yeah, my marriage,
my first marriage had ended. And I was so perplexed
how there was so much laughter in the beginning and
then you know, the years went past, there was just
the laughter just completely went away. And I was determined
to understand that. So I got a degree in psychology,
and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Wow, that's wow, that's my kind of man. Yeah, that's
a man. That's a man gage you education, get it. Yeah,
good for him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
He built half the comedy store, like right, he lived
in Mitzi's Misery, had a house and called Crest Hill
and a lot of comics lived in there. And his
his roommate was Dice and yeah, gus class Yeah of course,
so they he was like raised at the comedy store technically,
like he moved from Russia to there and then all
the furniture is like yakof Yeah, he did everything because

(01:14:48):
that's how he got in. He would do anything in
your Yeah, so you he was incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Yeah, he's amazing. So so. But at seventy three he's
crushing it. Yeah, he's a whole vibe. So I'm curious
why sixty five. I don't know, and I shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
That's terrible, You're right, because now I'm thinking a Dice
is sixty six, and he's another one who's just like
running around the street, still being silly, still goof it,
We still go on the road, you know, Like he's
very vibrant.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
You know, I actually I bought tickets a couple of
years ago when he was doing those smaller engagements at
the stand, like because I just wanted to watch it
as an audience member, not as a comic. I wanted
to be seated at a table, not stand in the back.
So I just went with my other comedy friend and
because I was so interested, especially because Andrew Dice Clay
has such a specific act, and I go, how is
he going to do what he does in modern times?

(01:15:44):
And I was love that blown away how he was
able because some comics really struggle with like catching up
with the time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Sure, and he especially if you're hot in that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Exactly like he just did it seamlessly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I was like, holy shit, Like I was really blown
away that he was able to still be him but
and make it so that like, you know, a younger
person wouldn't be like horrified and bog.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
About that but not but like not giving up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
But still they still get a little offended. But it's
more Andrew meets Dice.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah, that Andrew the person means the character that he created.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
So it's like he's grown and he's never he never
stopped performing, like even you know, he had full custody
of his boys, he's like a strong dad. That's my
second ex fiance, so I know a lot about him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Dice. Yeah, oh shit, you were engaged to Dice. I
always wonder a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Well, I always wonder if guys were romantically involved or not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
No, he's my best friend. Well because I always joke that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
He's second he's like bitch, but uh yeah, yeah, so
I feel like I know too much about him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
At the same time, it's like we've been working together
too since we've been split up, you know, like he's
been married and now has an amazing girl who I
hooked him up with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
So wow, very close.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
That's Was there a time in between the like you
said you worked right after you split up?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Was there did you have like a grieving period?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Like I had a grieving period because unfortunately I was
going through stuff. So I was the one who ruined
the relationship, if that makes sense. Really like my best friending, Yeah,
my best friend passed away, So I was just like, oh,
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Death in your life. I know. I did the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
My dad died a couple of years ago, and I
was like I went nuts and like I broke up
with someone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
But like it's really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I don't know how people to handle intense grief while
being in a relationship. And I know, like that's the
time when like your partner should be able to support you,
But it depends on what point you are at in
the relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
And yeah, I actually just want to be a maniac
by yourself at home.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
And also, well, this was a guy friend who was
my best friend. We were never like romantically involved in
It's just sometimes I just migrate guys like Mitsy Shore,
the owner of the comedy store she Freddie worked. His
name was Freddy Soto, and Freddie worked for Mitsy for years.
And she goes, oh, Freddy's great, He's got the heart

(01:18:15):
of a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
And I'm like, maybe like he was in the male body,
was like, you know, feminine heart.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Whatever, And so she loved, we all loved. We were
very close. And when he unfortunately he passed away, he
was thirty five, Oh my god. Yeah, so it was
a sudden and unexpected Yeah, it was whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
It was the third time he fell off the wagon.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
I hate to say it like that, but his body
had abused it so much that it just his liver
shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
It was part of his job is our colleagues will
pass away from drug addiction.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Unfortunately yea. And so it was an accidental. It was
ruled as an accidental overdose, which I think was pretty accurate.
But it sucks because what he had in his system
those people have on a Tuesday. But his body had
been through so much because he did it in grade
school and high school. You know, it was his third

(01:19:09):
about with it if you will, and then his body
just yeah, it was already broken down. Man. So when
we did his memorial at the Comedy Store, I think
almost a thousand people showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Like we had people in the street. That's how you
know what I mean? That person he was Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
So and then when I first started dating Andrew, I'm like, hey,
don't get weird, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
You got to accept Freddy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Yeah, it's your best friend. Yeah, but Andrew's old school.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Girls don't have boy friend like guy friends, right, and so,
and I'm like, dude, you met my brother, Yeah, you
met my brother's you know, Noma whack.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And he did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
He accepted him. But then when and he loved him
and his kids loved him, and we were all very close,
and his wife was very close with us, like, you know,
he was married so and they had a daughter. She
used to come to all the stuff. But when he
passed away, it just I guess I was like, you
fought me on him, you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Know what I mean, like you got to put something
somewhere every weird.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Yeah, emotion, And so I would kind of like push
myself away from him, and he's like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Are you doing? Like I'm cool, Like I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Accepted him, you know, but in my brain I was like,
you didn't want me for that moment. And then and
then after a while, like I was like, what are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
And then my grandma passed away? And then I just
was done. I was a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah, I feel like I also feel like there is
this like like it's nice to want to take upon
personal responsibility because that's not a thing anymore. So, but
like I wouldn't even like I feel like sometimes we
can blame ourselves too much for this, And I feel
like the partner who is right for you will figure
out a way to try to get so yeah, can

(01:20:52):
you tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Can you tell me how he tried?

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
We did a whole year after, you know, and you know,
I would just they would just be like, hey, you
want to do that, you know, trying to because again
he's got full custody. I'm with him five years, helped
raise him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah, all that. So we're all very close.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
And he's like, uh, you know, let's try that. Let's
do this, let's go ice skating. Like I went home
for Christmas and I was like, I'm just going to
go home for Christmas. You know, you guys stay in
LA And he's like okay, and he let me go.
And then he showed up for Christmas and my mother
was like we were in church and she's like, Andrew

(01:21:31):
is here?

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
You know he doesn't. He just showed up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Like like, that's pretty sweet, I will say, And that's
sweeter than I imagined he would be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
And that's why I think we're still like close friends
because we were such good friends before we started dating,
and then we were both at like a weird point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
In our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
He was going through a divorce. I was just, you know, trying.
I was trying to be an actress. Nothing was working.
And then after Freddy passed a year and a half later,
me and Andrew are still friends whatever, hanging out but not
crazy hanging out. And then I started doing stand up
So I started late you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Oh so you didn't do stand up when you started
dating Dice?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Nope, So that doesen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
I love it because it's just like women just watching
men like I can fucking do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Well, and it was just skyrocketing. I love that. That's
a bit oddly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Was a waitress at the Comedy Store for twelve years.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Oh so you knew the rhythm, you knew the punchline,
you knew so like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Just being around that energy, like I feel like it's
like you gotta try.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
How old were you when you started being a waitress
at the comedy store? Twenty one? Okay, so how mony baby?
So fun to be like like a twenty one year
old woman, like, oh, I'm awful. Those comics are animals?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yeah how today day the way people a lot of
the comic cheat waitresses is like, well, I was like
a comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Seller on New Year's Eve and it was a comic
that did this. He heard about this? Oh you did?
Everybody heard about this.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
He kept grabbing my tit like he kept like getting photos.
And at first I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Is he grabbed my tit?

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
And I was like, uh no, he's I didn't know
the guy and he was really wasted. So I was like, okay,
maybe this is out of character. And then he got
kicked out right away, but I immediate and he's banned
from the cellar. But I'm like, wow that what? How
how much progress we have we have made? Because how
were you treated when you were twenty one year old waitress?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
You come in like, you know, they just see the youth, right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
So and these are I don't want to call him predators,
but they are close and borderline die older comics that
would walk up and be like, we're gonna we're gonna
fuck I go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
But the problem is there might be somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Moved from the Midwest might go, oh that's I'm from
South Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
I'm like, I'm gonna cut your fucking right right I got, I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Was like, are you crazy that they immediately were like, oh,
she's a little nutty, She's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I thought they would have gotten a in erection, I know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Because I would, I would call him out like, yeah,
I believe this fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Guy just said you know, and they quit their ship.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah they never bother nice, Yeah, they never it all
got There was one guy I had a crush on
hard when I got there hard. I'm like, yeah, and
he doesn't do it anymore. But he doesn't do stand
up anymore. It's not my fault, but he doesn't do.
But he was with somebody like and we had that connection,
you know, that kind of fucked up thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
So then they broke up and she was gorgeous. Yes, girl,
she was kahanas like. So I was like, oh, he'll
never go for me. You know, I'm like a troll
comparative to this girl. And and then when they broke up,
I was engaged to my first ex fiance and he's like, fuck,
was your first xing fiance? Also comic no booking agent? Okay, business,

(01:24:53):
I knew comics too. Well, I'm like going for the boss. Yeah,
that's smart.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
So you've been engaged a bunch yeah, mess no.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
But but then what's like, yes, but you saved a
lot of money, Yes, Beau, it's a wedding I've had.
I've known people that I've had destination weddings and then
they get divorced three years later, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
That sucks. Destination was nowhere.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Yeah, I'd stay together because I wouldn't want people to
know that they just spent one thousand dollars to fly
to my wedding for me to get divorced.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
My friend's getting divorced or just whatever. They're separated, they're
going through the divorce. So much fucking paperwork. Yeah, And
I went to her wedding and just a girl grew
up in Manhattan and Roosevelt Island, Manhattan and you know,
back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
So she watched you guys. She's like, I'm obsessed with them.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
So she was a waitress with me when we were
at the store early in the early nineties, and she
so she's she got married, and she was this wild
girl that I met. When she got married, she made
me her maid of honor, but she had to have
a real maid of honor.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
So there was two of us because I don't do
girl shit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I'm not good like pushing planner, and I was just
there to get her down the aisle on emotional support.
But the two of us knew so much about each other.
And then I gave a speech and her mom was like,
I thought you would go longer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
I go, I can't say ninety percent of the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yeah, So because she was wild. Right now, she's going
through a divorce. But I remember her wedding. Her wedding,
her gown was like I don't know, ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
I think she spent like ninety grand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
It was in La and I remember her being on
the balcony going, where the fuck are the charger plates?

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
I'm like, what is it? The charge plate? Right? I
didn't even play that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
She she married a guy who had money, and that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
She just did.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
She get well, she's going through they're going through it.
But she hopefully yeah she had never wild great, you
know whatever. I just feel terrible that it happened. But
it was funny, like, who the fuck are you charger plates?
You were doing coke in the light booth. What do
you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Funny?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Have you ever been married? Have you ever had a marriage? No? Okay,
that's kind of that kind of sounds nice. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
You get like the thrill of the engagement, You get
to tell people, and then you get to you get
to pick bridesmaids.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Second, the first one, I picked all these bridesmaids and
my mom goes, what about your sisters. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I love them too. That's not exactly the first I
was thinking. And then the second one. I was like, oh, okay,
I'll have my sister, because it was like later, now
you're in your thirties, you're like, oh shit, okay, but
Billy was like my cheriatric bride, yeah, limping down the

(01:27:36):
aisle and uh yeah, so I was. But then the
third guy, we almost got married in uh Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
But wait three you've had three?

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Yeah, so what why did so we know why the
Dice engagement ended? Why did the other two engagements? Then
the first one this is booking agent first one? Yeah, okay,
and he.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Was like literally broke my heart in a billion pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Oh you know, so he's how to cheat?

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
No, well kind of but with drugs, Like he just
went away like almost like you lost somebody mistress.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
So, And it's weird because when I took him to
betty Ford, like people go, you ever go to Palm Springs,
I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
For drop off and pick up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
And for a while I was dating guys and I'm like, hey,
Betty Ford, person or place?

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Like because it was so heartbreaking, And I took him
to three different places. Betty Ford was the final one.
But he got out of there and started shooting up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
I know it was insane. He's okay and he's with
somebody and they have a kid, but he got somebody pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
No before, it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Was after that we got him out. And there's a
guy at the comedy store that's like basically the guy
who helps everybody get sober.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Man like MITSI.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
The owner of the store, used to do it for
all the comics. She put him in rehabs, she paid
for it. She did it to a lot of comics.
She did it for this specific guy named August Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, a staple.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
And so Argus now helps other people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
He's been doing it for years.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
And so I called Argust because he was the only person.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I'm like, sure.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
He goes, tell me what's in the room. I told him.
He goes, you gotta leave. You're never going to see
that person again. And he's gone to you can't. You'll
never get him back, You'll never.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Get the same person. And I was like, he goes,
just get all your stuff and get out. There's That's the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Only thing I can tell you. Did you tell what
was that conversation? Like you're talking to a wall essentially
he was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
But at that point he was shooting up so he
was so high. He's just you don't want to ruin it.
He was.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
He was like it was speedballs or something.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
What it was.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
It's a mix I think of stuff. And there was
a guy in the living room. See he had told
me he was. He goes, I'm living with this guy
from betty Ford. So we're gonna help each other. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
It's like, oh that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, fucking naive twenty five, right twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I'm like, that's amazing. You know, men helping men so cool.
Yet drugs, you're really going to help each other. That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
But I had people that were sober and they had
sober companions.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Showing my brain, I was like, that works.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Yeah, that guy taught him how to do They got.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
So good at doing different drugs in betty Ford.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
In betty Ford, yeah, they were because they started telling
each other how they do it. Then they just behave
for thirty days or whatever it was, get out, meet
up on the outside. And then I remember seeing notes
around the house like if selling so calls Sam at
a meeting, that's what Jesus Christ meeting. By the way,
this guy had Hollywood in the Palm of his hands.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Are you kidding me? So he gave it all up.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Oh god, he unbelievable, Like it was still like fall
from grace. Yeah, and so when to the guy in
the living room. He when I saw how my my
fiance was like just sucking zoned, I go, what did
you do?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
What did you guys take? And a guy like what what?
And I go, what the fuck? And I again a
hood rat. I lose it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
I get a baseball bat and I'm fucking swinging at
this guy. I'm like, get billy, I'm losing it. I'm
and so and this poor guy's like running, he's high,
Like I just remember him flying down the steps. I
don't think he touched any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Yeah, because I'm just like, you're for sucking up my fiance.
I mean, I get the fuck out, don't ever come back,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
And I think I put a hole in the wall
because I mean I just blacked out. Yeah, and so,
and then I went back and that's when I called
Arios and he's like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
You gotta got it, you gotta get out of there. Yeah. Yeah,
I left. And I can call you like a million times.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
I had the one hundred and seventy it was a
beeper at that time. The messages and it went from
where'd you go, I'm I love you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
I did, and then would go from I fucking hate you,
I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill your old family.
I'm like, that's not gonna happen, you know, like it
will kill you first. I know my fan. Yeah he
from Mount Vernon, bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Yeah, he's unbelievable, Like he rapped comics and he got fired.
He used to work at William Marris as like an assistant.
He got fired from there for catering to his black clients.
They told him there's no money in black comedy, and
he's like, Christ, the f are you saying.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
The worst thing every inaccurate?

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
But also this is the nineties eight late eighties, nineties,
this happened to him, right, so he they he goes,
fuck you, I'm gonna prove that they're it because he
got pissed off. Yeah, and his brother's a huge entertainment
lawyer and he got him in that job.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
So he now his only thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
He flips out on the guy us and took all
his clients with him. But the only thing he was
worried about is his brother being mad at him because
he's like, he got me the job. Meanwhile, he goes,
they're fucking racist, fuck them right. So he took all
his clients. They were Martin, Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Whoa Chris Rock Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Givens, Joe to Yeah, they started, Davidson like around yet
or did he started? They started because Martin was the host.
So he wrapped all these guys, Ontario Ivy who did
all the yo mama jokes, your mama, all these and
so they all left. Billy was working out of a garage. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
And he built this beautiful thing. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Built it so so big that William Martins bought his
company back.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Justice, Yeah, Beauty Justice, and then he and then he
and then he fell. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Dan, we all still go like all the like Martin
Chris that we talked about, like damn yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Because he had it. He was he was so good.
He was so good. But one of his clients had
a pure cut cocaine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
That's how it started. He did it recreationally and his
client brought over. He was I don't know, it's none
of my business, but he brought cocaine to the house.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
There was a lot of other stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
But he he was like, oh, you want to try some,
and Billy's like, yeah, I do coke, you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Know, once in a while. He doesn't cut.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
It's usually cut with another like Thailand all or like
baby yeah or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
So anything on the streets is cut with hopefully not fentanyl,
but a lot of stuff, and even fentanyl to a
degree isn't super harmful, but it's still something cutting.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
More than two crumbs in.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Yeah, and so at least it's cut. But the pure cut,
you can't get that high. You can't ever get that.
You can't get that good of a high again without
pure cut or without the first time. And he that
was it because he did it recreationally for years, No
big deal, right right, you know, every two years whatever

(01:35:06):
you want to call every year once a year like hey,
let's do that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
And its with your demeanor, right like cocaine, like like
usually tell when somebody's on cocaine, they're an asshole. They're
just like mean, and I'm like, this is how are
you having fun? No one around you's having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
He was more of a CANi like a con person
because he went through all his money, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
And then it was just business. Yeah, he wasn't mean.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
He was never mean, right, I mean me, because you know,
I wasn't returning his calls.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
So he's yeah, of course, but.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
It wasn't like he would be mean to like people
would meet him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
And be like, he's great.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
But he got this girl pregnant and then they both
got arrested for this was after Betty Ford, and she
had to have the baby in jail. And then his
sister adopted the baby.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Whoa, wow, whoa.

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
And he's like, he needs to be sober yeah, and
the other daughter yeah and with a partner, and and
he's doing well. Luckily sister still has that child. Yes, whoa,
that's impressed. The sister knows though obvious she's not park.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
They always knew that they can helped me do an
intervention on him.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
They an intervention. What's that? I've never been a part.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Of it in Gary and amazing, especially when you're doing
it at the top of the hill in Beverly Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Being there you pull up in your Toyota Trussell.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
I felt every time I see her in that, I go,
oh my god, that's so neat every time. Because also
when we took him to betty Ford. We took him
and his brother. His brother is a big entertainment lawyer
and he, Michael Jackson, was one of his clients.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
He got some money.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Yeah, so he gave him a corniche as a it's
a it's a Rolls Royce, it's a higher end corniche.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Love.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
He gave it to him as a gift. So we
took that corniche to steady Ford and so me and
Billy were in the back seat. We had sex in
the bathroom on the way there. It's so uncomfortable. I
think of that dirty bathroom all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Wait, which bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
On the way to Palm Springs, we at a rest stop.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Wow, well, you've got to get it in one last time.
I guess. You know. We were good at outside. Was
he high on his way there?

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
He said he wasn't, but I don't. I thought he
wasn't shooting up at that point, so I couldn't tell
it was. You know, it's hard to tell, and he
was able to get it up, so I'm assuming he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Eh, you can, oh you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Yeah, you're right, yeah, coke a little bit, yeah, yeah,
but anyway, so he I remember that and then as
we're getting closer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
We were.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
I wasn't going to make it back for my shift
at the comedy store, so I had to use the
phone and the corniche to call and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Be like, hey, can you cover my section?

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Yeah, I'm in the main room in section E. Can
I'll be back You're right there, girl? Yeah? Wow? How
ear is it?

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
And then that's that was the first, and then the
second was Dice?

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
And then how before we get to the third? How
did Dice propose?

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Oh, that's a tough one. Well, we broke up for
a while, because I don't remember why we broke up. Damn,
that's a hard one. But I remember it was like
a month, almost a little over a month. And then

(01:38:25):
I was going to move to New York. I was
moving to New York. I put a U, I put
first and last down. I had my you know, I
was ready. I was leaving. Everything was packed, I was
moving out. My roommate of twelve years was getting you know,
a single, you know, one bedroom in our building. This
was when rent was normal and uh, and so he

(01:38:48):
was getting a one bedroom and I was all packed
up and ready to go, and I wasn't seeing Andrew
wasn't coming to the comedy story. He was just leaving
me b and we weren't seeing each other, and and
he came in and I remember it was one of
my last shit. I was in the belly room and
I'm servant drinks, servant drinks, and it was packed, and

(01:39:09):
I brought two drinks up at a time, and then I,
you know, I was like, you know, that's how you
make good money up there and get people at your
sales high Sorry, I'm an excellent waitress. Anyway, So I
forgot a corona and I came running down and he
was in the kitchen at the comedy store, and I
just I was like, and he goes, I want to
marry you. And I just looked at him and I

(01:39:32):
was like, I have to bring this corona upstairs, like
just so angry. And I went upstairs and I put
the corona down. I went down stair, like stomping down
those steps, and I was like, how dare you come here?
And we're in the parking lot, like arguing in fashion.
I know, it was crazy. And then he was like,
I'll get on one knee. What do I gotta do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
And I'm like, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Isn't working, you know, And then he took me to lunch.
I go, let's just let's just put this. I'll go, well,
we'll talk about it later. I got to finish my shift,
you know, because it was packed. Yeah, I need the
money and I'm moving to New York. Ye. So uh,
he goes, well, let's go to lunch. The next day,
we went to lunch in Beverly Hills and I went

(01:40:17):
to the bathroom, and when I came back, he's sitting
there with like the love of my life, Sylvester Stallone,
and he goes, wait, Fly stop by to.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
Say literally literals there, Yeah, are you fucking serious?

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
And I just like the height of this's fing He
can't like those is two thousand, two thousand, you know,
it's long after two thousand and five. Okay, so he
was already a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
He was a long for a long time because I
didn't start stand up till two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Oh okay, but I'm literally like my heart you could
see it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
I'm sure of it, like a cartoon, you know, because
it's the loone. He knows how Philly I would write
Fly and eleanor I'm like books in high school that's
like grade school, you run up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
And down the museum steps and your phone, and yeah,
we didn't do that. We're not Taurus. And it was
good old Doyle's town.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
But uh, you know, it's just like Rocky you know whatever.
And so I'm like hi, and Andrew's like, yeah, this
is Elean. You know, she's gonna be my fiance. And
he's like that's great. I'm like the two of them
they sound the same.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
But but it was just I was like, oh, that's
so cool. Literally I couldn't get it together. I was like,
what is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
And then he walked away, like you know, he was
like good seeing a dice because they're real good friends.
You know, he knows all those guys. And so when
he walked away, I go, why would you bring the
love of my life?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Ah, that's not a good move. He goes, he don't
want you, but he was married, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
So comic on comic that's acceptable to any other woman.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
But comic on comic that's heartworm.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Comic yet, but you in your heart yeah the comedians
already Yeah yeah, so he whatever, but uh, it was
just funny. And then we went to Vegas and then
we got back together whatever, and I said yes and
bought me a ring and gave me a because I go,
there's no ring, you know, yeah, like there's usually a ring, right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Usually not a semester saloon, but a ring.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
Yeah, I'll take sah right here, buddy, wrong finger, but
it's just yeah, I And then we went to Vegas.
We got engaged, and I remember like when I went
back to his house and we picked the kids up
for school and his son Dylan came like flying and
he jumped like, yeah, we're all so really close to this.

(01:42:45):
That's what I love about them, you know, the boys.
The boys was we always say that the boys is
why it was hard to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Yeah, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
And then engagement number three, Uh, that was just we
were a wild pair.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
We were together for five years. He was great. I'd
still be with a giant cock. Giant cock, and I am,
yeah nice.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
I didn't really like get out a stick, but yeah,
like a measuring side, put it here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
But it was just and we we were just wild together.
And this is the weird part. This is where it
gets real white trashy, if you will. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Dice had met a girl and they got married and
she was awesome, and I started dating her uncle.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Oh, and this was so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
From each other years like when we started, like when
I started doing stand up and I started touring with Andrew,
he was like, she's dating my uncle. But even younger
than Andrew, Like it was just weird, like we were
closer in age. They they grew up in la Uh.
There there was a lot of kids and then like

(01:43:55):
the girls had kids in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
So what did this guy do? The uncle?

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
What you do?

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
That is hard to explain. He was in jail for
three years. This is me reverting right back to type
where I grew up a boy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Life was the love of my life went when I
was in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
He went to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Right out of high school, he went to jail, and
as you do or no, I'm sorry. Right as I
moved to l A, right to jail. And I was
like Ship because I was obsessed.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
With him, and then he wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
He didn't like me at all, so and I knew
he was getting into the bad side of Ship, but
I was still if i'd see him, I like.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Yeah, I could change him.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
He's not gay, He's just a person, right, really, that
person by the way, by the way like if you
googled him, me be like, holy like murder, none of
my business, got it?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Son? So he uh, I was in love.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
My mom thought I made him up until she saw
him on the news getting arrested and she goes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Oh my god, that's a real person. Yeah, Shin, who
did you think that was? Mom's always underestimate us.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
I also I had I had been working with the
guy who was the Chelsea rapist. I don't know if
you remember that story from years ago. And my mom
also was doubting me. And then I also saw him on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
The news and I said that's him, and she was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
You weren't fucking with me, And I was like, I
don't know, I'm honest.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Yeah, this guy when he went to jail, I didn't
know what he went to jail for. So I immediately
wrote him and sent him pictures because now I got
him ictures. But at this view, yeah, like Shalloween costant, no,
Paully Sure had this party and we did this whole
like playmates thing. It was all these and I was like,

(01:45:48):
I'm gonna send the mose. This is such a me
move writing someone in prison.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
Yeah, yeah, I get engaged.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
My first.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
And he wrote back, and I had my mail sent
to this house because I moved in with my ex
and he Billy calls me. He goes, I think we
just got a letter from prison. I'm like, don't touch that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
It's confidential. Wow. Did you ever have to explain it
to him or now? No?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
I said's a friend of mine I grew up in.
Don't worry about because I had a girl. Two of
my best friends are doing life in prison. So to
my close friends whatever, Yeah, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
One female, one male? What for what that's I don't
know the one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
The one has been in and out like a girl
she was. I mean we would get arrested but never charged.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Yeah, I guess did you guys like arrested but never charged.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
I don't have any felonies. Does that make sense? I
love that for you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Like I've gotten locked up and been put in a
cop car and then like my friend's mom would have
to come get me, because if I told my mom.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
It would just be yeah, she's yeah, she's like, this
kid's going to her father. I want that, you Eizza,
not that he would want me O we okay? Oh no,
he just gave me a ten minute warning. That's all
it go like it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Yeah, he's been leaning over. We're afraid he's gonna fall down.
Yeah he's like me but yeah, so and then that
I forget where we were.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
Third the third guy was the uncle of Yeah DICE's
ex partner.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Yeah, I mean he's still her uncle. Yeah. So a
wild time we did.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
We were wild. We were It was just liketing back
to type like we were just it was sex constant.
It was just pure lust, if you will. But he
was a great guy, but he will get jealous, and
I think he was using a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
So I was like, I can't go down this just
a little road again.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
It's a touch maybe a lot, right, Yeah, no one really,
it's none of my we're using.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
It is usually never implied for like dabbling.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah he I mean he he was in
prison for three years and I said, why were we
in prison?

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
He goes stuff. Oh. I was like, oh, it is exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
What I wanted to marry, right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Right right how he proposed Uh no, we were just
in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
He's like, let's go get married, like and then he
was like, we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
We're getting married.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
So It was never like a full proposal, but I
always say we were kind of engaged because we were close.
It was a couple of times like we were pulling
up right, Wow, you just stopped turn around, and then
I was like, they're going to kill me my family.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Oh I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
I'm like, my family will kill me. Yeah. If I
don't tell them, they'll just kill me. It's something must
have been in there, going don't do yeah, don't do it. Okay,
something must have been.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
What was that breakup like with a lusty religion? That
was a good one. Yeah, that was it. I forgot
about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
But he had pissed me off to the point of
I'm very irish and stubborn and if you if I
don't like, I will shut the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Down and you don't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Yeah there's you know, Bobby Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
So we fought a lot when I was waiting tables
and then he pissed me off and I shut him
down like he didn't exist, and he would like scurry
around me and it was just like he goes. It
was unbelievable, the feeling that you could give some because
now we mended our seventeen seventeen year battle. Wow, it

(01:49:26):
can happen, but I will.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
It's like you're not even there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and and so so this guy got
me so pissed off.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
And it was then I was doing the Kid Rock
Cruise the night.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
I've never been on details on that. The moment we're
going to put a pin in that rock cruise. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're going to get that to that in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Well, no, this is where the break ups on the Kid.
He broke up the Kid Rock.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Well, I've never been on a cruise. I'm never on
first rock. Yeah, so I'm like a nervous wreck. The
night before, I say to him, just you know, come up.
He don't have a license. He lives in LA, grew
up in LA. Doesn't have a license. Okay again, out
of my business. So he takes it uber.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
I go take it uber.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Or you know, his neighbor would drive him. I'm calling him,
calling him. He's nowhere to be found. I got a
spot at the comedy store and my fucking bags are packed,
and I'm a nervous wreck. He's not answering. So then
he finally calls me like an hour and a half later,
maybe two hours later, and he's like, I'm at your building.
I'm like, then stay in the fucking alley because I

(01:50:35):
just got bumped by Seinfeld and now I gotta fucking
wait till he gets off. So i'm and he goes,
you gotta come get me. I'm not standing in the alley.
I go stand in the fucking alley. You're a big boy. Yeah,
I lose it, like you know, So I to do
my spot.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I go back. He's pissed because the alley it's dangerous. Whatever. Yea, yeah,
you got your own things. Man, fuck him? And so
I go back and I uh, we go in and
I'm fucking pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
I'm shut down, but I got no choice. I got
a plane ticket. He's on the boat. I already put
it in the thing. I was so angry when I
got on the boat. I was like, I'm canceling this gig.
I'm getting off. I'm just gonna get off. I go,
you gotta get out of this fucking room because I
will throw you over boys. So he left and I go,
I'm sorry. My anger is at all time high. He

(01:51:27):
went upstairs, got all my credentials. He says, Oh, Eleanor
is not feeling good. She's downstairs, you know, got all
my ship came down, bought.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Me like food. I fell asleep.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
The boat had left, because sometimes when I'm so angry,
I'll just go to sleep. So the boat goes out.
So I go, I don't even know how Kid rock
booked me. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
I got a fucking email.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
I have no idea. He saw me on showtime and
booked me, so personally booked her.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
You were selected, hand selected by kid So.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Now I'm like that that's awesome. Me and Kid Rocker
hitting it off, and I'm getting better. I'm calming down.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Yeah, So we do the whole cruise, right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
We get off and I'm I'm like the whole time,
I'm like, I'm done with this fucking guy. In fact,
I remember we had sex and I was like, he goes, hey,
this doesn't feel You're like, you're not even into this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
I go, I'm not just hurry oh, and he's like,
my heart will jerk off in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
I go fine with me like I'm done and I
never want this person near me again. So we go
to Miami Airport. This guy doesn't fly a lot like
he might go to Mexico and back to LA that's it.
And that's a drive. That's not a fly. So we're
in the Miami airport.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I take him. I go, this is your flight, get
on and I went like this bound it and I
never saw him again. Fist bumped your fiance.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
He would call me constantly, but physically. I never like,
we need to see each other.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Walked us out. We got foods. Absolutely not. That's your rules, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
I told you if you shut me down, you will
never see me again.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Respect Yeah, and I get so angry. I just but
kid Rock was like, oh, what happened to your boyfriend?

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
I'm like, fuck him ex boyfriend?

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
He would have been, but he thought I was fucking
kid Rock. He thought I was fucking this other guy
in the band. Because they were so nice to me,
and they would all come to the shows.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
They were like, you gotta see these girls. She's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
And I'm like, I don't know if that's a compliment,
but they would all come to the shows.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
The shows were packed.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
I was like, there's only one comic on the ship,
just you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Yeah, it's all band only comic incredible. Yeah, that is amazing.
He did like you just redeemed rock in my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
He's incredible. Yeah, he just brought me back to Nashville.
They have like a how a lake house in the Poconos.
He might, I'm pretty sure, Like well, I said lake,
but yeah, he might. But he's in Nashville. I know
that because he brought me back to Nashville for the festival.
We did a big show at the Rhyman.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
It was great. It was a couple of years ago,
two years ago, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Yeah, so we still keep in touch. My friend called me,
he goes, hey, kid Rock was on Joe Rogan. He
mentioned you, saying.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
He has comics on his crew. So he said my name.
It wasn't like that was very cool, you know, the
only comic on his crew that one.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
But yeah, but he only had one comic, but he
would switch him up. I forget who Chris rotating Chris
Porter did it for a while. Yeah, so he has
like comics that he picked. But I guess I was
the only chick.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Yeah that you should just play that clip of him
saying that before you got on stage when you're on
the road loop.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
But I would just keep playing it. I love that.
That's great, great weird.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
I thought you were really cool, but now you're sick, right, No,
you're like, well sick.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Yeah, yeah, you have a very interesting like so do
you ever feel like do you have any interest? And like, well,
first of all, I want to point out who would
have thunk Andrew Dice clay most stable relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Right yeah, matter romantic gesture, romantic.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
He is a hopeless romance. That's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
You know, I believe it because in that with the
Woody Ally movie blew whatever that he's he's so good
in that that you're like, for someone to be that
good of an actor, there has to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Be like something there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
I was blown away by Before a Star was Born.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
I go I still and I was on the set
with that. A lot of that got cut out and
he was a little bit upset about. But I mean
like because it was so good, but you could see
Bradley had so much. You know, it's so hard the
editing part, so Andrew was like they should.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
Have kept buy part.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
But he's like a great he should be in more.
He's a great actor.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
He's still even what with what having to cut you know, yeah,
you know seeing shorter things like that is what I mean.
Every scene he did stayed in the movie, but you know,
just got seven hour movie.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Yeah, so I kill you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
But even every scene he was in Stolen, Yeah, Stolen.
There's a scene where he's putting Bradley Cooper in the
shower and you hear because you know he's crushing his
daughter's heart. So the anger that he's yelling at him
is like the love for his daughter's so good. I
go crazy, gorgeous. Yeah, he's an excellent actor. But yes,

(01:56:24):
my mom was like, I can't believe you're dating Andrew Dice.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
The guy who puts a cigarette in his ear, And
I go, MoMA goes all the way around, don't give
a ship. He's a found man like And then she
loved them. That's great, he loved him. He's great.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
So because she saw him with his kids and yeah,
he also had a family. The other two didn't have families. Yeah, yeah,
a little more stability.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Yeah say yeah, wow, are you interested at all in
the like of something not away?

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
Or yeah? Can we see that?

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
I don't. Yeah, I gotta, I want.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
I'm terrible at dating lately because I have no patience.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Well man, that's fine, I would say that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
Sometimes patients is just you waiting for the inevitable to happen,
and you might as well just do it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Then. You know, when I moved to the villages in Florida,
when I get to the age, it's gonna be my
ship an eighty year old that golf car. Baby can't wait. Yeah,
it's a great documentary. Are you dating?

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
I haven't been for I was, and then I wasn't.
I go on and off.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Yeah, you feel like I just I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
I have no patience and like what I do take
care of my mom? Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, I'm
going to see my mom. I don't care about you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Right, are you the how many other siblings do take care?
They're all still there.

Speaker 4 (01:57:45):
Just still.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
If you have that many boys, it's not going to
work out. They stink at taking care of anything. And
so it's me and my little sister Edie and my
sister Karen. Unfortunately we lost my sister Kathleen. But my
sister Karen lives like forty five minutes away and she
has grandkids. Like she's on the older half, so me
and Edy are the younger half. So yeah, and everybody

(01:58:08):
lives up the street or around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
For the most part except for three. Oh wow. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Yeah, So everybody's right there, So go for bed, you know. Yeah,
but she, like I said, she don't like to get up,
and so me and Edy gotta go like push her
out of bed.

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
The boys are like, you come in, you know, they
don't they don't get it. I mean, she goes, I'm
going to die up here, and they're not going to notice,
aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
I go, yeah, probably, it'll be hilarious. It'll be a
couple of months. Definitely comes down.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Get a little row home like that smell, same row
home we grew up in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
She's in. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Yeah, she paid her mortgage off. She said, this was
like I don't know, ten years ago, and I go, Mom.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
You should celebrate. That's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
She goes, don't get it. Don't get excited. It took
me fifty three years to pay the mortgage. She worked
seventy five hundred she paid for the house, and then
she re mortgaged it so much that it was in
the hundreds of thousands, holy or maybe eighty thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Maybe it was up to that. Oh wow, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
Now she can get like three something for it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Yeah, wow, wow, wow wow. So it's a pretty amazing
she's awesome, tam. Wow, she had an awesome daughter. Yeah,
we got a bunch of awesome kids. Yeah, where can
we find more of you? What would you like to
promote special?

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Yeah, it's called No Country for Old Women.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
I love that title. It was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
And uh yeah, it's out on YouTube. It's on the
Comedy Store YouTube. Okay, but you could put it just
No Country for Old Women or eleanor Carryanna comes right up.
And yeah, just check out my Instagram because you need followers. Yes, yeah, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,
I love TikTok.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
And if you ever have a chance to see Ellen
our live, definitely take She's in your city.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Site is I put the dates up on my website.
I think we'll be in Baltimore. I don't know when
this comes out, but a couple of about a month.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Okay, very good. Nice, whatever, we'll figure it. We'll figure
it out.

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
Whatever comes out, it comes out another hit.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
That's a good thing about YouTube because you can keep
the you can keep it going for a long time,
for like a year after you can keep getting those hits.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Great.

Speaker 4 (02:00:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Yeah, and I just did a Rogan and he's back
on YouTube. Oh that's a bomb. But that's gonna be
a great little between that rock.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
I mean, kid what somebody he knows, he's my boy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
It's my favorite person. That's so cool. Well, thank you
so much for being on the show. Thank you for
having me. It was a blast, awesome. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:45):
This has been Guys We Fucked, the anti slut shaming podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
We'll talk to you next Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
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by Mike Coscarelli. Theme song by Rob Patterson and Jake.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Cozen Suck my wet ass pussy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
Christina said to cut that before, but now it's in.

Speaker 8 (02:01:21):
I've been speaking later and later in the day most days,
I don't talk till maybe eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Keeps me hole, keeps me holdly.

Speaker 8 (02:01:36):
Keeps me whip in the man's even when I'm on
the road, keeps me coming up for air, keeps me
air and nuts some come.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Keeps me cool.

Speaker 7 (02:01:53):
In every place I go is one of this place
I could call home every girl I will I just
crusher off my list that don't go far, I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Just go crazy.

Speaker 7 (02:02:08):
I buried all my ole clothes out in.

Speaker 8 (02:02:11):
Some field in West de Moines.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
And if you judge me to.

Speaker 8 (02:02:15):
Night, judge me by the sounds of right to. And
there's a black tornado, black tornado. Spin around in my
bad is sometimes, black tornado over black tornydo spin around

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