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November 27, 2024 45 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen chat with Kevin Harlan about all things NFL, then talk some Hawks before visiting with Kraken Head Coach Dan Bylsma.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They are NFL champions. The Seattleseyhawks have won Super Bowl
forty eight.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
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electrifying run by Hill, fifty one yard touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
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Speaker 5 (01:03):
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(01:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
How are you, man?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I'm doing great. How did this hampen with the zoom? Like,
like when like did you talk to your guys there
and say, hey, we got to make this pamping or
like what'd you do?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just think you do yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
No, I did none of this myself. This is way
over my pay grade. I just think the voice is
so silky, it's so smooth. It only demands the best
quality audio that we can find. So it's finally great
to do this and catch you over zoom and not
over the phone.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
But man, go back to Monday night.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I thought that was going to be a game at first,
when the Chargers struck first against Baltimore and then JK.
Dobbins gets banged up and the Ravens just hammered them
to win the hardball ball on Monday. How impressed are
you by what you're seeing from Baltimore right now?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Man, Well, very I think Lamar Jackson Dave is just
right now in a position where he he's the front
runner for the MVP. We've had some great performances. He's
being helped certainly by Derrick Henry, and he's in the
conversation for the MVP along with Josh Allen and others.

(02:43):
But you go on the road across country after being
and I think he was embarrassed with the loss in
Pittsburgh the week before. I think he felt like, you know,
that was not the game that we play and that's
not how we have been playing. And then I think
so they were a motivated team. And if you recall

(03:05):
the week before, the Chargers had had a big lead
on Cincinnati lost it eventually beat them on that Sunday
night game, but they didn't look great in the second
half against the Bengals and Burrow almost came back and
won that game. And I just think that when the
turnaround that Jim Harbaugh is orchestrating in Los Angeles is

(03:28):
clearly just outstanding in every way, but they still have holes.
I mean, last year they were five and twelve, and
there's a reason they were five and twelve. Their roster
was not that good. They've improved it. It's better this year.
They got the right coach, but it's hard to make
that big change one year to the next. So seven

(03:49):
and four is about where they should be. I think
they'll push the Chiefs a little bit in the division,
but we're running out of time and they're gonna have
to make a move here quickly. But they're in the
play right now the wildcard spots in the AFC. I
just think they took out a Baltimore team that was
incredibly motivated, in particularly the quarterback who continues to make

(04:13):
plays at the biggest moment and just the pills everything
you thought he would be. Listen, he's a two time MVP.
He could were doing his winning his third one. And
this team may be overall even stronger than last year's team,
which had a fourteen to three record and had the
number one seed in the AFC. So a lot of

(04:33):
football to go. I still believe a lot in the Ravens.
I think they are who we thought they were, and
their quarterback is playing at a very high level.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I just don't know if there's a quarterback in the NFL,
maybe Josh Allen, who will be judged more by what
happens in the playoffs than Lamar Jackson, right like.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Real, oh, good point Revens.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
The Revens could go fourteen and three and get the
number one seed and nobody's gonna care because they're all
gonna want to wait to see what Lamar does come
playoff time. I mean, how how big of a millstone
is that around his neck?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
You think, well, it's huge. And the fact that Mahomes
and the Chiefs in their season last year, which are
kind of wonky, you know, and then they lose that
Christmas Day game at Arrowhead Stadium to the Raiders, humiliated,
and that turned their whole season around. They didn't lose
from that point on. And so I think that that

(05:24):
both Buffalo and Baltimore are in that same frame of
mind until we get by Kansas City. It doesn't matter
if it's Baltimore or if it were the Chargers or whoever.
It's going to be everything's got to go through the
Chiefs and got to go through Mahomes. There's still the
number one seed. The Chiefs are still ten and one,
and you're right. Until they beat the Chiefs, the hope

(05:47):
you have for those two quarterbacks, Jackson and Josh Allen
are probably on hold. I mean, they definitely have the talent,
but can they get you know, it's not unlike Michael
Jordan was going through with the Chicago Bulls until he
got by Boston and until he got by the Detroit Pistons,

(06:07):
he couldn't become the champion he became, but you have
to get It's like stairs, and he had not taken
that next step and when he got by the Pistons
that changed everything. Then they won six and nine years.
And I think that's the same with Baltimore and Buffalo.
Those two teams are good enough to have a run
here of maybe a super Bowl or two. Yeah, but

(06:28):
they got to get by Mahomes first, and until they
do that, it's Kansas City's road.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Well, Kevin Harlan's with us on the radio show. I'm
just thinking about what your family room and your kitchen
table is going to look like on Thursday, and I'm
starting to salivate already, but we'll get to that in
just a moment, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
The Seahawks are going to the Jets on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
It's not very often you see a team flying three
thousand miles into the favorite, which the Hawks are in
this game on Sunday. The Jets are saying Rogers is
going to start. There's reports are that are out that
he may want to play, but not for the Jets
next year. And I don't know, man, it just kind
of feels like Woody Johnson is just letting the inmate
run the asylum out there, and Aaron Rodgers and just

(07:08):
popp in his mouth off about you know, whether or
not he's gonna play and is he really into it
and blah blah blah, And I mean, how much of
the Jets should really concern the Seahawks you think for
this game on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, Rogers is always going to be a concern, even
with the bad season. He's got you know, DeVante Adams,
they've got a good running back, They've got a couple
of great guys on defense. You just never know. I mean,
it's it's, yeah, I don't know what the weather's going
to be like I'm sitting here in the Midwest right now,
and and flew through Denver this morning and there's snow
in a front moving to the east coast, and who

(07:40):
knows what it's going to be like on Sunday and
whenever you travel like that. Although the Hawks have had
success doing it, Ye didn't they win in New England
earlier this season? If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah, that's a bad football team though, right, I guess
the Jets are bad too, right, exactly?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, a lot of the Jets are bad twos. So
come on, all right, I say, why not? The way
they won last week and their defense so as strong
as it's playing. And no, I'm I'm I'm bullish on
the Seahawks, and I think they should be the favorite.
But you just don't know. In the NFL, the margin
between the good and the bad, or the pretty good
and the pretty bad is pretty slim in both regards. Yeah,

(08:16):
and when Rodgers is there, you just don't know. As
far as the Jets, this is the one organization, not
the one. There are a couple, but this is an
organization where the owner is really involved, and that's never good. Uh,
the owner's really involved in Dallas. That's not done anything.
The owners really involved with the Jets. He's fired as

(08:36):
GM and his head coach in season. I mean, talk
about dysfunctional they have. There's who's got their hand on
the rudder, who's steering the ship, who's driving the car?
Like like who is handling this? It's the owner And
he's made one bad mistake after another. And I think
Rogers is frustrated. I'm sure he thinks he looks back.

(08:58):
Can you believe I left Green Bay where I was?
You know, there was there was you know, this triumvirent
of great you know, like the holy trinity of quarterbacks
Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. And I left
that because I was getting a little bit sideways. I
left that to go to the Jets, you know, a

(09:20):
perennial loser, dysfunctional front office. And now he's living at
firsthand as he's seen the head coach and the GM
get fired in season, like he's got to be shaking
and got, what have I done? What a monumental, incredibly
horrible mistake have I committed? Why didn't I just try

(09:42):
to meet the Packers halfway. I mean, listen to head
Jordan loves. We know what's happened. Since it's bridge under
the water, all the water under the bridge, all all
he needs to do. All he needed to do was
be just a little bit more pliable, just a little
bit more and instead and I'm gonna play hardball. He

(10:02):
basically forced the hand to move ad and they did.
And it's worked out for Green Bay. It has not
worked out for Aaron Rodgers. So here we go. It's
a it's a bad situation. But on any given Sunday,
who knows what magic he might find in that arm.
The arm still looks pretty good to me. I think
he's beat up and injured in some way. You won't

(10:23):
reveal what because you don't want people zeroing in on it.
But I'm I just think that there are no easy
games for the Hawks, even playing the Jets, who are
all over the place, It's still you're traveling across the
country and taking on Aaron Rodgers, and that will be
a handful.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Hey, Kevin, I love the fact that we're doing this
over zoom.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I gotta tell you, though, I've known you for a
long time, and there's a lot of things I don't
know about you, and there are a few things I
do know about you. One thing I do know for
sure is that you do not have a lisp. And
the zoom call is making it sound like you have
a lisp.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's oh, you know, well, you know what somebody else told.
I did his doom with the local radio station in
Kansas City, and we're doing it on zoom. And and
for whatever reason, I don't know if it's the phone
or whatever, it does. And they've had people calling and
goes Kevin, all right, does he does he have a uh?
Did you do you have a stroke? Did he fall

(11:20):
and hit his lip? Did he did he have some
dental surgery?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I gotta send this to you while we're done.
It's hilarious, man.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
No, But should we do it on the phone because
of the telibus?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
No, No, it's fine, it's it's it's actually hilarious, man.
So we'll have some fun with it and maybe we'll
see if we can fix it for next week. But Kevin,
I just want everyone to know Kevin is not coming
off a root.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Canal a dental appointment, and not just yes and he
does not have a root canal. No, And yeah, and
my mouth is not numb.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Everything's fine, everything's fine. Hey, how about what's happening in
San Francisco? Man, the Hawks got him two weeks ago.
They go to Green Bay and just get thumb which no,
he was surprised by that because they had like everybody out,
including brock Party. Now there's Niner fans that want Kyle
Shanahan fired, you know, media coming down on Shanahan. How
in the world can we give brock Party forty to
fifty million dollars? What do you make of all the

(12:13):
chaos operating in San Francisco?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, the contract with Purty's going to be interesting because
now you've got you know, now you've got to figure
out what you're going to do with that situation. And
I don't think he's a sixty million dollar quarterback. I
don't think he's a fifty million dollar quarterback. He's he's probably,
you know, in the thirty five million, which is what
these starters are getting. And and that's that's probably the

(12:35):
way I'd roll with him. I'm I'm wondering if they're
if their window has maybe closed A little bit hard
to say when you got a Bosa on your line,
But I know he's injured, and uh, and you had
these these great weapons on offense and defense, skill position players.
You paid your one wide receiver a ton of money
after paying another receiver a couple of years ago or

(12:57):
a year ago, Samuel a lot of money. We're half
the year without McCaffrey. You're trying to reincorporate him. I
think they can still salvage the season. I think it's
the only division without a team that has won seven
games or lost seven games? Am I right? Are all
the teams five and six or six and five? Is
that I'm doing it?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So, so it is going to come down to the
final weekend. There's there's absolutely no doubt about that. And
why not the Hawks? Why not San Francisco? What if
the Rams get hot here? I mean, you just don't know.
And and the Cardinals have surprised a lot of people
with what they've done. I'm gonna I'm gonna go out
on a limb and and and say that that San

(13:38):
Francisco has still got their best football ahead of them,
and they'll still be what we thought they were, one
of the best teams. But right now it's looking like Detroit,
it's looking like Green Bay and Minnesota. It's I don't
know what to make of Washington right now. I'm going
to see Atlanta this weekend there and I don't I
don't know. Tampa Bay is cooled down. I don't know.

(14:00):
I like it's wide open in the NFC for sure.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, you just gave away the Where will Kevin be
for TV on Sunday with the Chargers and Falcons?

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
And they'll be. I'll be getting this list worked on
by some surgeon and and fix this list, which for
whatever reason, I don't know if I if I eaten
something maybe in an allergic reaction, I got fat lips
in there now. And this is what I'm gonna sound like.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I want you.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
I want you to go on the air for TV
on Sunday and see Welcome to CBX, Kevin Harlan's with us.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Dude, before you go, what have you done to me?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Are you gonna ruin? You're gonna ruin my career? You know,
I've spent forty years trying to build this thing up,
and in one interview it's gonna go right down the toilet.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
See that sounded better? You started yelling at me. You
sounded fine, Hey, dude, before you go. I don't know
what your definition is of of the MVP, but I
don't know of a guy in the NFL who's been
more valuable to his team than what Saquon Barkley is
meant to Philadelphia. I mean, they were gonna fire Nick Sirianni, like,
people were clowning him, they were hammering him at the

(15:05):
end of the year, and Saquon Barkley comes in and
saves his bacon.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
I mean, should we be talking about Saquon Barkley is
a serious MVP candidate?

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Absolutely, Absolutely, He's He's been better than hoped for. He's
turned their season around, He's caught fire. I think they
have changed some of the offense to accentuate what he
does so well. Absolutely, He's been everything and more. And
I'm sure and the Giants look horrible, right, I mean

(15:35):
the watch the Hard Knock. You heard some of the
conversations internally with what they want to do with Barkley
and how they thought they just go out there and
find another back or whatever. Nothing has worked out. Barkley
has gone to their chief rival, the Eagles, and just
become an MVP candidate, as you accurately saying he's turned

(15:55):
their season around. Has not been the quarterback who is
better because Barkley is now, you know, gaining so much attention.
Any and when you can when you can run the
ball in this league, and Marsha did this for the Seahawks,
when you run the ball in this league, it gives
you it's like walking down the middle of the high school,
uh with with the with the biggest toughest guy in school.

(16:19):
Like like you're walking down the hall and you're kind
of lingering in the but but you're walking with with
the man on campus. And and when you can run
the ball in the NFL, I'm sorry, it's it's proven.
It changes the way you are perceived, the way the
players act, the way the line blocks, the way everything operates.

(16:39):
If you run the ball, you usually are pretty good
stopping the run. And if you can run the ball,
it helps your passing game. And they want to do
you know what they want to do all this stuff.
Run the ball, stop the run, and see where it
gets you. Nine times out of ten it will give
you a winning record and and and exactly what your
fan base deserves a winning team.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Listen, here's the deal. I don't have the fancy schmancy
zoom pro. I'm too cheap to pay for it, So
I just got a message. This zoom call will end
in ninety seconds. So we've got literally hitting. We got
like eighty seconds. Tell me about thank you, tell me about.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Bucking me down. Yeah, making me down like Elmer Fudd. Yes,
And and you're gonna just knock.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
It wall, gonna kick you out. We're counting down one
twenty one, nineteen one eighteen. What's that Thanksgiving table gonna
look like? What's that table look like at your house
on tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Anne has got it looking great. We're we're excited to
have the kids over a lot of fun. And I
want to wish you and your wife and your family,
your extended family a very happy, happy Thanksgiving, and to
all our great listeners and at the Emerald Queen, all
those people out there, have a great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
You're the best man.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Super thankful for you and your friendship and what you
do for this radio station every single year.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
You're the man.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Enjoy Atlanta, enjoyed Denver Monday, and we'll talk in a week, buddy,
appreciate it, Pal.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you, Dave, take care of my friend. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
You too, Buddy, Kevin Harlan with us on the air,
more with Hugh Millen who does not have a list.
I can guarantee you that next on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
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three kJ R FM.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Can I just tell you a pet peeve of mine?

Speaker 7 (18:28):
There?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Hugh talking to me just bugs the hell out of me.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
I don't know why I continue to go to this
website for NFL stats. You know, there's other sites out
there that are way better. But when you go to
a website like check this.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Out here, chuck them.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
You go to LIKEESPN dot com for example.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, and I'm looking at team rushing defense in the
NFL and the columns aren't numbered.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh I know, are you with me on that?

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
It's just it's horrible. I mean, it drives me freaking nuts.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, you would permanently just crossss off your life.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm like thirty twenty nine, twenty eight, No, ye, don't
do twenty five. So I got the Hawks at twenty
third in the NFL and Russian defense overall a couple
of things. Number One, I'm watching Ernest Jones thinking why
did the Rams let him go?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Number one? Number two, why the Titans let him go?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
And I'm thinking, remember the.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Conversation we had a couple weeks ago where I asked, you,
are we more critical of Schneider for signing two guys
that couldn't make it to Thanksgiving? Or do we give
him more credit for identifying a problem and correcting it?
And you said on that day you said both. Well,
the way Tyree's Knight and Ernest Jones are playing, it's
kind of the ladder, right, Like don't we sit here
now and just say, hey, John good work man identified

(19:45):
a problem and for now took care of it. Yeah,
And I think Mike McDonald gets a heavy hand in
that as well.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
But it's just them. They're healthier. I think that some
of the principal are taking foot. They have this gap
and a half mentality with their front seven that you know,
as opposed to single gap penetration, like hey, just get
up the field, defend the run on the way to
the quarterback. That that's one philosophy some coaches adhere to

(20:17):
then there's others that are two gap where you just
kind of stay right square with the offensive lineman and
then you try and fall in to either side of
the gap. There's a little bit of a hybrid with
the Seahawks where there they start to penetrate one gap,
or at least make a pre a clear presentation into
one gap, but they're in, but they don't penetrate, and

(20:37):
they're in a position to throw the blocker off and
go into the next gap, and they've they've created a wall.
I mean, Dave, here's a stat that kind of jumped
out of me, and I kind of go sometimes go
stat hunting when I see something. And in Week one,
Julian Love had ten solo tackles against the Broncos. I said,

(21:00):
that's got to be rare as hell. Well, guess what
I went and looked. In the entire careers of Ed
Reed and Troy Poulamalo, who were in the Hall of
Fame as safeties three and forty one combined starts in
regular season and playoffs, none of them ever did that.
They were zero for three forty one. Okay, now that's
a good thing. Obviously Julian Love was doing that, But

(21:21):
it's not an all good thing because it means your
secondary is making tackles.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
So the other day against.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Would they play I'm kidding. The other day against Arizona,
they they had DB's made tackles on four different plays,
one for zero yards, one for three, one for zero,
and then there was a fourteen yarder and that was

(21:53):
on third and seventeen. So it didn't it wasn't even
a quote unquote as successful play because the Cardinals on
the next down. Well, I went and did some stat
hunting on that, and if you look at the first
I think there's been a real change since the Buffalo game.
Agreed on how they stopped the run. Just look at

(22:14):
the defense overall period, right, my god. So in all
of the games leading up to Buffalo, on plays where
a secondary person had a tackle, it was one hundred
and seven yards of rushing on plays where the secondary
had a tackle. That makes sense. And in the last

(22:36):
three weeks it's only twenty averaging twenty nine years. So
it's an average of one oh seven prior to the
last three weeks and it's dropped to twenty nine, meaning
the defensive line and the linebackers are making the tackles.
And I don't think Julian Love had one single tackle
or he didn't have I think maybe had two two assists,

(22:59):
but he didn't have a single solo.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Tackle in the Cardinal game. Yeah, in the Cardinal game.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
And so my point is is that that the front
seven is doing the job and they're getting the tackles,
and and if you're playing safety for the Seahawks, you
can just kind of watch with amusement what's going on
in front of you.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You don't have to be involved.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, Julian Love had He's credited with two solo tackles
in the game against Arizona, by the way, Okay too, Sorry,
Well then then I guarantee you one thing.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was one of the and it was by the way.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well it was on one of those plays
that was either zero three or zero yards and they
spilled it out, and I know Willan had one where
they spilled the wide play out and and uh Kobe
Bryant had one on a three yard run by uh
By Kyler Murray on a red keep. But the other

(23:52):
ones were zero yards. So and and those those two tackles, David,
those solos, those were in.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
The passing game.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
What I'm talking about is in the running game, right,
Julian Love, I don't believe was part of any In fact,
he was not. He for sure was not. He was
not part of any run defense. And I don't mean
that in a bad way. I'm I'm trying to compliment
the front seven.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, Well, Ernest Jones and Tyree Knight in the last
two games have had nineteen and twenty six tackles combined,
and the Ram game he was second on the team
with nine tackles, So meaning since Ernest Jones showed up here,
he's been first or second on the Seahawks and tackles
every single week. So I don't know if it's just
a simple matter of him making those guys up front better, right,

(24:38):
or if they're again like you talked about, just doing
something different there with their linebackers.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
But I mean, you gotta be blind, Hugh to.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Not see the difference in this defense from the Buffalo
game to the last three games.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And I don't know, you know the Ram.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Game that you lost, I mean you're giving up fourteen
points a game on defense because you had to pick
six against the Rams.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Well, I came on on Monday morning with Chuck and
I said, look, I'm damn near giddy. I used that
word giddy after the RAM game because even though they
had lost that RAM game, the jump from the week
before when they had been futured against the Bills, it
was like they had a year's worth of improvement in

(25:18):
one week. And it's there's multiple reasons. I don't think
you can just say, well, it's Ernest Jones. I think
it's again, you get more reps, other guys are healthier.
I can't believe Leonard Williams wasn't the NFC defensive player.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean I'm not disappointed.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
I mean that's great for Kobe Bryant, But.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
But that play.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Would you give Devin Witherspoon more credit for that play
than you would Kobe Bryant, Because I want to ask
you something. I tend to kind of be more critical
of Kyler Murray on that play. I think a good
NFL quarterback would have found that tight end and he
would have had that first down on that throw. And
I know that Witherspoon made a great play, but I
think part of it, and we've talked about this before

(26:06):
with Russ, he can't see he's short. Yeah, I mean,
that was a harder throw for Kyler Murray because he's
five foot.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Ten, but he's out on the perimeter.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I think you have to credit Tyrese Knight as well,
because that's the tight end was his man, so he
was able to react out in the flat. So you
had two defenders, you know, at the point of attack,
and it was Kobe Bryant who kind of came out
from depth to make the play on the on extremely
errant throw obviously, But I think what it was for

(26:36):
me is just Witherspoon's recognition, like like, because here here
it is is fourth and one. You can't just play
things straight up on fourth and one. You're gonna have
to take some chances. Because you could play great defense
on first and ten and have a two yard gain
by your opponent and you say, oh that was that
was a win. Well, you give up two yards on
fourth and one. So Witherspoon was taking chances by knifeing

(27:00):
in and then when Murray kept the ball, He's like,
oh God. And then just instinctively he turned with his
back to Murray because he's going to be faster in
his transition than had he done it opening. And now
his just raw ability the turbo button that he can
to accelebrate, accelerate and to cut the edge off. It

(27:22):
was a great athletic move and and awareness by a
rookie and Tyrese Knight that cost all that.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Well, the scheme is starting to be the star, right,
I mean, we thought that going into the year that
Mike McDonald's scheme would be a star, that Ryan grubbs
scheme would be a star. Not happening yet on the
offensive side of the ball, But it seems to be
happening now on the defensive side of the ball. And
all of a sudden, Hey, the scheme starts to take
a little bit and all of a sudden, players that
we did not think were very good, all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Boom, we think are good. Now. It's incredible how that works.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Hey, I want to come back and ask you what's
the pathway to victory for udub on Saturday against Oregon?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
All right, next on ninety three to three KJRF.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Mind from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Cruking Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FL.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
All right, we got about five minutes in this segment,
we got that Terrence Ferguson clip there. By the way, Jackson,
I just emailed you, yeah, d clip. Yeah, I just
said it time. Yes, yes, I do. All right, grab
that for me because we heard earlier in the show.
By the way, Huey from Oregon linebacker Bryce Betcher on
this game with UUB Saturday.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
How about Terrence Ferguson.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
You remember had that horrific right, I mean, left leg
injury in Week six against the Dogs way back in
the day, the one where even Kirk kerb Street was
wondering what the hell leg it was that he got
banged up on Terrence Ferguson today talking about the U
DUB game on Saturday, it means.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
A lot to us. You don't want to circle games
ever on a schedule, but you know we owe these guys.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
They played us.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Well, there's a rivalry, and you know, people around Oregon
care about this game and it's for a good reason.
And you know, so when you have a rivalry definitely
means something to the whole team. And as soon as
you come to Oregon to be a Duck, that's a
game that you look forward to. We own twice really
three times, and of our last three times we've played them,
you know, it's been close games and we haven't came
away with a victory. So you know, we're gonna come

(29:12):
out on Saturday and play like that way, like you know,
like we owe them something and with a chip on
our shoulder.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
The problem is the guys you owe it to are
no longer here. They're all in the NFL. This is
a totally different team than the one that you saw
a year ago. But for Dan Landing and Oregon fans,
I get it, that doesn't matter. The last time you
up beat Oregon four times in a row was eighty
nine to ninety three during the Don James National Championship
run twenty one years ago. So what's the pathway Hugh

(29:38):
to victory for you, dub, Because I'm looking at Oregon
number twenty four, scoring offense eighth and scoring defense seventh,
and total D twentieth and total zero twenty ninth, and
rushing D fifteenth and passing offense seventh, and passing defense
number nine, third down offense number thirteen, third down defense
sixty third in the country, and rushing offense. But Jordan
James has kind of been obviously available to kick your

(30:01):
ass whenever they want. It feels like number fiftieth in
yards per rush. Yeah, what's the pathway to a win
for you to honestly? Saturday, obviously Washington's.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Gonna have to play their A to A plus game
and hope that the Ducks are in their B minus
or worst game. Right, So how does that play out?
Maybe there's some pressure you play early on. I would
think having a good first quarter so you kind of
get the crowd out and and you start to energize yourself.
So I think a good first quarter is essential. Remember

(30:31):
in a close game, arguably the Duck's closest game. I know,
Ohigh State kind of came down to the end, but
against Boise State, the Ducks had a point punt return
and a kickoff return. It's right, right, right, two times
special team, right, So you can't give up one of those.
I think that would be heartbreaking for Washington to give
up a big return. Then when you look at Dylan,

(30:55):
their Heisman candidate, he's first in completion percentage in the nation.
This is now what I'm about to say. This is
not the NFL out of thirty two teams. This is
out of one hundred and thirty four Division one teams.
Their first in completion percentage and eleventh in in passer rating,
but one hundred and thirty first in attempted air yards.

(31:20):
So when they're throwing the ball, they're generally not throwing
it down the field. They're getting a high completion percentage,
as I just said, the best, But that tells me
you have to tackle. They're gonna be bubble screens. They
are going to be short passed that the ball is
going to be getting out. They ranked sixteenth in the
country in terms of avoiding sacks out of one thirty four,

(31:43):
so it's gonna be hard to get the balls coming
out of Dough Montgomery's hand, and so then Gabriel until yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Out of the Montgomery is I have no idea. Maybe
something gets It's very for you. There's one too many
safety blitz you know. Defensive they are in you.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
You know you said you probably said yards per game seventh,
yards per play eleventh, but yard here here's a little
crack in their defense. Yards per rush they're fifty first,
just kind of middle of the pack. So so maybe
you can get some things going with Jonah Coleman. You know,
they're sack per attempt defensively thirtieth. That's obviously, you know,
right around the quarter pole in terms of you know,

(32:24):
so they're not like deadly efficient in terms of producing sacks.
So so I would just say limit the big plays.
Have a really good first quarter. It's hard to sit
here and talk about a plan. Yeah, when it's not
been disclosed. Who the quarterback totally thousand percent?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Well, look, I mean Oregon obviously has lost five of eight.
It should be six of eight, by the way, but
you missed the field. Go back. I will say this
eighteen when when Chris Peterson kind of let up a
little bit there, if demand is playing, yes, he's going
to have to complete some balls down the field. You
can't do what he did at UCLA and go minus
four on eight pass a teen Jackson. Can we keep

(33:03):
it right here and transfer to some NHL and Dan Biosma, Yeah,
let's do it.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
That worked.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
The head coach of the Kraken joining us right now on.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
The radio program, getting ready for tonight's game against the
Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Normally you would hear this at three
forty five every Wednesday, but we're gonna talk to Dan
every single week and kick it off with a little
pregame fun with the head coach of your Seattle Kraken
Dan Biosma joining us right now on ninety three three
KJRFM ahead of their game tonight against the Ducks.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Coach, how are you?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
I'm very good, softy. How are you doing today? Day?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Game day? I love it? Man, tell me about game day?
What is your game day routine?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Do you wake up early because you're all tense and
you're anxious and you can't wait for face off?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
What is what is game day like for you? Coach?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Game day?

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Game day ends up being along when I think, uh,
you know, get into the get into the rink at
five thirty, and the boys come and the guys come
in for meetings in three game skate, and then there's
a break in the day.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
I will go for run.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Me and a couple of the staff members go for
a run on game day, get ready for the game,
and then uh, usually three three thirty it's turning attention
to the pope, the opposition and guys will be coming
in at three thirty, four o'clock or thirty for the
game and getting ready to go.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And then so it ends up being a long one,
but a good one.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Well, I'll tell you what, man, I want you to
know that I like you also like to go for
a run on game day, and I'm lying, by the way,
there'll be none of that for me at all. So
I'll like you to handle that.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Ain't softy for nothing exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
See, you're learning already for crying out loud.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well listen, man, you guys started off in your first
fourteen games five, eight and one and your six and
two cents.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Why what's been the difference to last eight.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Well, I think a little.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
More consistency in our play, and that's not just a
game d game, but in game as well. How we
react to things, how we react to this the referee,
how we react to a mistake, how we react to.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
You know, something going wrong in the game.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
We've been a little more consistent throughout the sixty minutes,
reacting the right way, reacting with the right mind frame,
and just playing the sixty minutes out. Whatever it takes,
whatever it is, whatever comes our way, just keep playing,
keep playing our way. And we've been better at that
through the last seven games.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Well, this is this is the first time we're doing
this coach and looking forward to having you on every week.
So we'll kind of get, you know, some of the
heavy stuff out of the way first and then just
focus on the games and the roster and the guys
and all that strategy, you know, getting on you about
to this and that as the year goes by. But
this is your third stinting out doing this in the NHL,
and I'm just curious the guy that I'm talking to

(35:47):
right now versus the guy that we saw in Pittsburgh,
the guy that we saw in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
How different are you? How different is your approach?

Speaker 5 (35:55):
What have you learned about yourself since those Buffalo days?

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Well from beginning, you're talking about a thirty eight year
old guy who got his first chance in the National
Hockey League just fifty two games into my head coaching career.
Was when I got the opportunity of Pittsburgh, and I
think one that was full of energy and full of

(36:20):
juice and wanted to.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Get in with the guys, wanted to.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
Be a part of it. And I think over the
course of years, the course of the war of the NHL,
I lost a little bit of that energy, a little
that jam, a little that determination coming to the rink
every day with with the guys amongst the guys being
a part of it. And you know, whether it's well

(36:44):
it was Buffalo, whether it was the last two years.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
In Coachella Valley.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
I think you know, the the guys are seeing a
thirty eight year old guy, not a fifty four year
old guy coming to the rink every day with a
ton of energy at John jam just eager for the
competition of the game and want the guys to get
in the get in the same mode.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Well, Dan Bosma, with us and coach you mentioned your
your your stint down there in Coachella, and look, I
think I probably know the answer to this, but I
want to just hear your thoughts on this anyway. How
different are these players And I'm not talking about physically,
I'm not talking about skill wise. We know they're just
night and day, I would assume from what you had
down there in Coachella, but just you know, the egos

(37:23):
of the players, How how coachable are they at this
level versus what you were dealing with down there in
the desert.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Well, I think, uh, I think the thought might be
to think they're different, but I think only the pressures
of the National Hockey League. The pressures of of you know,
it being a job, you know, having some status in
the game. Is the only thing that's different for the players.
There's still there's still young at heart. They're still wanting

(37:54):
to play this game, is still wanting to play the
game at their at their best. They still want to
win when hockey at the heart of it, and that's
that's what a I want to bring in. But it's
been refreshing for me to get with this group and
see what that that that's their mindset.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, well, you mentioned some of these guys being young
at heart, and you've still got some young guys on
this team, including Matti Beneers and Shane Wright. And we
saw Shane have his second goal of the year against
the Ducks on Monday night. But let me ask you
about Maddie for a second, because ever since this guy
showed up, there's been these crazy expectations about Matti Benier's
and I don't know what's fair and what's not fair.
So let me just ask you flat out, are you

(38:31):
are you getting out of Maddie what you need from him?
And if not, how much is kind of left in
the tank you think?

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Well, I think the expectations are high because of how
he came in at their college season the first year
and played the last fifteen I think seventeen games that
he played, you know, immediately came in and had an
impact on the ice with a his work ethic and
work his skating and his determination of which he plays
the game. And you know, had a great second year

(39:02):
and and so it just built expectations for him on
the ice. But I I, you know, I it can't
it can't go without saying that, you know, he's still
a young man. He's still developing as a person, he's
still developing as a player, and that sometimes gets lost
when you see us in the nineteen year old kid

(39:22):
come in and he's twenty and he's twenty one. He's
still he's developed, still developing his game and rounding his
game out, and he will continue to get better and
better and better and better as the years go. And
the great thing about Mattie is he's there. He's determined

(39:42):
in he's determined to get better all the time.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
And the conversation doesn't.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Go by with what he can do more, what he
can do better, how he can do it better? And
you know, we don't get a lot of practice time
in this league. But he's continually working on his game,
working on his game, working on his game, and that's
that's that just means it's going to get better and better.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well. And the other guy, Shane Wright.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
You know, I just remember on Draft night when Montreal
passed on him, there was like a gigantic party here
in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Right, oh man, we're going to.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Get our hands on this guy who you know, at
some point in time folks thought would be the number
one pick in the draft. But give us a take
on what it's been like to work with him and
his progress and really maybe kind of what fans should
expect out of him right now.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Yeah, the same, the same applies, I think, you know
should be clearly was a lot of hype round Shane
as a prospect and a player, and getting crack and
being able to get a draft him at the four spot,
I think.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Was a huge bonus. It's just it is, there's.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
Eighteen years old. I don't know, top the fifty four.
I can't remember what I was like when I was
eight years old. But but uh, you know, the with
the high draft pick and with the you know, the
talent and the skill that he obviously has comes a
ton of expectation, becomes a ton of eyes from everybody,
from management, from coaches, from fans.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
There's a lot of eyes.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
And a lot of expectations on that. And you it's
often and it well usually is looked by that they're
eighteen years old. And Shane Wright stepped into Seattle when
he was eighteen years old in a training camp, and
he's a talented and skilled player. But it's amongst men,
and it's amongst grown men, and it's not the easiest
thing to do. And I think, you know, our eyes

(41:30):
are on Shane, but you look at other great and
high path draft picks. You know, Jack Eichel and Sam
Ryan are two guys I coached in Buffalo's you know,
eight years later we're talking about Jack Eichel being, you know,
one of the best in the game, and Sam rayn
are it's eight years nights, nine years later.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
That he sports forty goals and fifty goals.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
There was a development, there was a path, there was
a process that he had to go through eighteen, nineteen,
twenty twenty one, twenty two to get there. That's what
Maddie's in and that's what it right.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Well, coach, before I let you go, first of all, again,
really appreciate you doing this, agreeing to do this every
single week with us on.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
The radio show.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I hope you agree to do it in like a
month from now, after we've been visiting for four or
five weeks, so we'll just check in with you and
see what your thought process looks like.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
But you did tell us off the year.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Hey, I'm not going to tell any any injury updates
to any media. I'm going to just share that and
keep it for you guys on my weekly show. So
I really appreciate you being open and honest with us
like that. What's going on with Vince done? Do you
expect him back? Maybe this weekend?

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Coach time frame would be looking towards the weekend.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
He he went on the road with us to La
and Anaheim so that he could skate with the group
and skate with the team and get in some practices.
He's been skating now pretty rigorously for ye with ten
days so and again today and then we're looking towards
the weekend, so things have progressed good for him. He's

(43:00):
gotten into some team practices, he's gotten some contact and
he's gotten the pace from practice, so hopefully it continues
here the next few days and the weekend.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Would be a good time. I would get a ticket
to a home game if I was you.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Great new, perfect, perfect, perfect timing. Well coach, before we
let you go the ducks again tonight. You got him
on Monday. But let me ask you a question, are
you are you giving the boys tomorrow? If you're not
making the guys work on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Are you well?

Speaker 7 (43:31):
Our schedule dictates that we play the back to backs
on Friday Saturday, and the Friday game is a twelve
thirty kind of early mattin a game in San Jose,
So we will not be practicing tomorrow, but we will
be going. We got to get to San Jose sometime
in the afternoon. But Thanksgiving dinner will be had in

(43:51):
San Jose for the group, for the family.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
What's the one thing on the Thanksgiving table that you
got to have? I mean, you grew up as a Michigander.
I'm just assuming that was a hell of a buffet
on Thanksgiving Day in Michigan growing up as a kid.
But what's the one thing on that table? That Dan
Bilsma's got to get in his belly tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (44:11):
Let's see. Well, the biosm has had their Thanksgiving last
week just due to our schedule, so it's already been done,
and I would be super disappointed if I mean, it's
gotta have turkey, it's gotta have stuff, it's gotta have
sweet data. But I would be super disappointed and probably
unthankful if the cheesy potatoes, my mom's cheesy potatoes that

(44:35):
she always made, were.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Not on the table.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
So it's all in one because it all needs to
be there, but if the cheese potatoes weren't there, I'd
be unthankful.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Well, hey, I'll tell you what, when do you get
moms cheesy potatoes and drop off in order and deliver
it to the radio station? Because that sounds damn good man,
Holy moly, you're making my mouth water. Hey listen, great stuff,
good luck tonight. Gonna be fired up to do this
with you every week. We'll get the ducks this evening
and we'll talk next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Coach.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
Thanks man, awesome, Thanks Sophie.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
You got Dan Bowsman with us on the radio show.
What do you say we get out of here? Make
way for Mike Benton. The pregame Cracking Ducks coming next
right here on ninety three to three KJRFM. See you
happy Thanksgiving everybody. We'll talk to you Monday. From The
Emerald Queen Bye,

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