May 20, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Sen. Marco Rubio continues to bring the heat to the Sunday talk show circuit...
- A new way to start the day...
- Cohen's testimony...
- Jack has questions about addiction to pain killers...
- Final Thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington
Broadcast There, Jack Armstrong and Shoe Getty Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The President of Iran is dead and died in a
helicopter crash over the weekend. The President of Iran doesn't
really do a lot, as it is a theocracy run
by the Supreme Leader. But he was next in line
perhaps to be the Supreme leader and an evil some bitch,
So I'm glad he's dead. Unspeakably evil.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, he had an important functional leadership role in Iran.
He wasn't the head guy like our president is, but
he was absolutely part of the power cabal.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And being dead is only a good thing. Sure, I
hope none of you watch the Sunday news shows. I
assume most of you don't. They don't give very good ratings.
They've always been tried to make prison do that. The
Supreme Court at overturn it. I feel like they do
have some influence among policymakers. They must or those or
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they wouldn't. People wouldn't go on the shows, would they
if they didn't make any difference. She wouldn't get up
on a Sunday morning and go into the studio and
be on the show. If it didn't make any difference,
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I just I think the question is what difference
does it make. It's absolutely a power move, a status
move inside the Beltway high school.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But yeah it matters. You know,
it's an inside baseball sort of thing for it mattering.
They're talking to each other more than they're talking to
the public. But I they're worse than they used to be.
I think because I've been watching them for decades and
I really feel like they're worse than they used to be.
First of all, the hosts debate the guests. If the
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guests are Republicans, they debate them. You come on the
show and they debate you. They don't debate Democrats. They
ask questions to allow the Democrats to put out their
policy positions. On the Republicans, they debate them, Yep, even
when they're wrong. To this point, Marco Rubio was on
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Yesterday and Meet the Press, which might be the most
maddening of the shows. That Kristan Walker, woman who debates
every Republican guest with like just a tinge of anger
in her voice, that a Republican is on there saying anything.
They got onto the topic of immigration, and they did
a bunch of other topics abortion for instance, in which uh,
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she would say something then Marco Ruby would say, well
the way he's like that is not true, that is
not true what you just said, the building and blah
blah blah, and she'd say, well, we need to move on. No, no, no,
you don't get to just say something and then move on.
So Marco Rubio is pretty fired up, and it was great,
I think because he's applying for the vice president job.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh how how thoroughly would he dismantle Kamala harrise.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Wow, they'd have to say they'd have to stop the fight.
That would be just too ugly to watch. It'd be
like PDT and his girlfriend in the hallway. I mean,
it just would be a oohver please belie. But anyway,
on the subject of immigration, I thought it was playing
for you all. These are a couple of long clips,
but this is Christian Welker Meet the Press with Mark
Rubio as a guest seventy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
If re elected, Donald Trump has said he's willing to
build migrant detention camps and deploy the US military to
deport the more than eleven million undocumented immigrants in this country.
It would be the largest deportation operation in American history.
Do you support that plan?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Eleven million, that's an outdate. That was the number ten
years ago. We're talking upwards a twenty twenty five, maybe
thirty million. There's been almost ten million people in a
country in the law for me in the last three
yeard question. Would you say the number varies big time?
I mean it's another nine to ten million people just
in the last three years. The answer to your question is, yes,
we cannot absorb twenty five thirty million people who entered
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this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're here illegally. What country nurse would tolerate that.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
We don't even know who some of these most of
these people are. They talk about vetting, vetting them with
what they're coming from, nations that don't even have document
systems in many cases, Yes, we're going to have to
do something. Unfortunately, we're going to have to do something
dramatic to remove people from this country that are here illegally,
especially people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We know nothing about.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But ten million, eleven million, that was the number fifteen
years ago. Today it's upwards of probably twenty five to
thirty million, maybe more.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Glad he pointed that out. He's absolutely right. It goes on,
will you.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Accept the election results of twenty twenty four, no matter
what happened, Senator, No.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Matter what happens.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
No, if it's an unfair election, I think it's going
to be massify.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We Sideator, no matter, Why don't you?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I think you're asking the wrong person. The Democrats are
the ones that have opposed every Republican victory since two thousand,
every single one.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's Hillary Democrat has.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Refused to concede. Hillary Clinton conceded, Senator, will you accept
the election?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Hillary Clinton said the election was stolen from her and
that Trump was a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Kamala Harris agreed, we have democrats election.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Senator, she could see the election.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She said that.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
She said that no, she said that Trump was illegitimate.
She said that the election had been stolen. Kamala Harris agreed.
By the way, there are Democrats serving in Congress today
who in two thousand and four voted not to certify
the Ohio electors because they said those machines have been
tampered with. And you have Democrats now saying they won't
certify twenty twenty four because Trump is an insurrection, it's
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been ineligible to hold office, so you need to ask them.
I think you've had I never asked the Democrat this
question on the show. I bet you you've never asked
the Democrat that question.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh he's so good, he is good. Oh man, Marco
has the rhetorical skills. He is good, and he was
so right. Again, the hosts on these shows debate the Republicans,
the Democrats, they just set them up to, you know,
announce their policies right exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, they're on there a volleyball team, so they just
set them up for a little spike and they try
to block the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I appreciated Marco.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
While the giant deportation plan would be enormously complicated the
way Trump is in some of his surrogates have described
it much much, much more. Deportation I think is absolutely doable,
particularly if we can straighten out the asylum system. But
more importantly, what I was going to say is Marco
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was absolutely right touch on that if you want focus
on the numbers, focus on the rampant illegal immigration, the
mind boggling numbers, that is what's going to stick in
the American people's consciousness.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah. She actually then played some clips of him in
twenty fifteen being against deportation, and he said that was
a different situation. We had eleven million people, most of
whom had been here for years and years and years.
We were not going to deport them. This is new,
They're all new. We have people that have just gotten here.
We have no idea who they are, lots of more criminals.
It's a completely different situation. You can't compare the two.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, right exactly. I think that's thoroughly defensible. If we
have one party goer who won't leave the house and
catch our hints, and Judy says, you want me to call.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The cops, say no.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
If we have eleven people who announced we're squatting and
we aren't leaving, I'm calling the cops. The number has
changed materially where these folks are coming from. That's another
thing you have to remember, is I think a lot
of us first became aware of the whole legal immigration
situation formed some of our attitudes when it was almost
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entirely working age men from Mexico, of course, trying to
make some money to send it back home. And you
certainly ought to enforce your border laws and immigration laws,
and we ought to have a guest worker program.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's very different from tens of thousands of Chinese nationals
are coming into the country undocumented, tens of the hundreds
of thousands from communist regimes like Venezuela, from you know,
hell holes like Haiti, full of lawlessness, you got your
drug cartels. I mean that the situation has changed fundamentally,
and for the worse. You have tens of thousands of
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gang members coming into the country from Venezuela and places.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I was on team Burgham last week, Doug Bergham, governor
of North Dakota, as thinking he was who Trump would
pick or should pick. Man after watching Marco yesterday, I
what's what's the downside of Marco Rubio?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, the obvious thing everybody points out is that the
electors in Florida could not cast their votes for both
President Trump and Marco Rubio because they're both from Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Issue.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
On the other hand, all Trump has to do is say, yeah,
Trump Tower's my home. I'm a I'm a registered to
vote in New York and that would be fine. Everybody's
talking about how could you have Marco like change the dress.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, he's the Miami guy. That's who he is. Okay,
So assuming we get around that, is there any any
downside to Marco Rubio? Some people think he would out
he's a little too powerful, little too charismatic to have
on the same ticket. I don't know. Trump's a pretty
big personality.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, if I were Trump, I might he excuse me,
still pouncing back from the COVID. If I were Trump,
I'd be a little concerned about that because the VEEPS
needs to sit down and shut up and do what
he's told. He cannot outshine the president. That's just kind
of the way it's always been. And I'd be a
little concerned with Marco because he's so gifted.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I could actually also see a situation where, mean, there's
five months ago Trump does or says something that Marco
Rubio can't just go along with, where he'd have to say, no,
that was he shouldn't have said that or something.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I have a feeling Marco is meeting right now with
his most trusted friends, advisors, spiritual advisors, the Poet Laureate.
He's meeting with the book the last three National Book
Award winners to all get together to craft the perfect
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phrase that says something. The effect of the president's his
own man. He speaks his own mind, and those are
his words, not mine. Boy, you'd agree with him. The
president's his own man. He speaks his own mind, and
those are his words.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He did that sort of thing on the abortion issue,
which I didn't play just because we don't do that
much abortion talk. But that was fiery. That was the
first part of the interview with Mark Rubio, and she
brought up some things where Trump is not as far
pro life as he is, and his answer was, look,
in our party, we have different degrees of where you
are on the chart and your party it's one thing.
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It's one thing, and if you don't go along, you
can't be in the party at all. And I thought
I was well handled. Wow, he's skillful. He is good.
If I'm Trump, I want him out there. I certainly
want him debating Kamala Harris. And yes, we know you
don't have to write your angry emails. He's a globalist.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's an old school Reagan and old boomer global president.
He's not going to do anything, eh, not until Trump
croaks from a too many big Max or I mean
the guys old as hell.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
There's no guarantee makes it through the term. An ex
wife puts an ice pick in his head. That could happen.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh my gosh. Although Trump does have the he's going
to live a long damn time. Yes he does, feel
to him. Yes, yes he does. You got COVID? You
had COVID last week or you still have a little
bit of it lingering? You don't know if you got
long COVID or anyway, nosout it. This Babylon be headline
doctor cures long COVID by telling patients to quit faking it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I thought that it is unkind because I know people
with long COVID and it's horrible. But I thought the
joke was funny. Speaking of health, I got a question
for you. Have you ever been addicted to opiates? I
got a question for him, hoping you can answer this question.
Are you asking me specifically a listener?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Okay, I guess. I was looking at you and pointing
at you so I can see how you universal exactly,
among other things on the way, I stay with us
perfect song, Michael am I living life in the fastling
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everything all the time. I called the doctor, I think
I'm gonna crash. That's where I am right now because
I'm on the opioids. Really yeah, So what I was
wondering at, Sure you are am? I sure I am?
What What are you? What are you taking hydro codone? Oh?
You are? Because that's not the one you mentioned last week? No, no, no.
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I turned this on Friday because I just the pain
from my crash is bad and I just can't get
any sleep. Plus it's just freaking painful. Anyway. Everything I've
read about it is it's like the most highly addictive
drug practically in the world. But what I wanted to
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throw it to you is a listen. I want to
hear personal experience, not like something I look up on
webind I want to hear from you if you ever
got hooked on, because you hear these stories all the time.
Brett Farr of The Football Player. There's a gazillion examples
of people who add an injury legit reason to take
a painkiller ended up getting addicted. What's it like in
the What are what are the stages of it? If
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you've been through it of becoming addicted, what are the stages?
How do you know you're headed down that road. What's
specially the early couple? Hunh Yeah, what's the first inkling that?
Looking back? Once you become addicted? Looking back on that,
you're going down the stage. I had a couple of
people tell me some things, but I'll I'll get to
those later after we get some texts. I just wonder
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if anybody's got any thoughts on their personal adventure with
this sort of thing. Might be helpful for everybody, actually,
because everybody could end up taking these pain pills for
a variety of reasons at different times in their life.
Text line four one five two nine five KFTC. Four
one five two nine five KFTC. We'll get to some
of the texts later this hour.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Speaking of addiction, the newest humbled brand Jack, are you
familiar with this? If you're a hipster, you're on the go,
you're well known. Latest humble brag is I don't touch
coffee and I'm more productive and energetic as a result.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I want to punch you right in the face. Would
you say that to me? Coffee's for the week?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Jack, supermodel Giselle Bunchin who can't keep a marriage together?
I blame the man. It starts your morning with the
room temperature water with a bit of lemon and Celtic
salt instead of coffee. That's right, room temperature water with
a bit of lemon and Celtic salt.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Whatever. That is Celtic salt for the cool people who
have moved past sea salt that was so popular for
a while.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And him lay in pink salt.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
All right, so yesterday, Oh you're still using sea salt
or pink salt. Oh, I'm sad for you. I'm on
the kilto salt, Celtic salt. I'm guessing all salts are
the same. It's NaCl sodium chloride.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, NBA star Giannis ten coombo ops for aus. The
actor Sydney Sweeney, who's a professional pair of Hooters. I
mean she can act as well as anybody, but has
never tried coffee. Investor in television personality Mark Cuban drinks decalf.
I think sleep is the new coffee, said Brian Johnson,
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founder of payments platform Braintree Venmo and nutrition program Blueprint,
who's been working on ways to slow and reverse aging.
New social norms are emerging.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He says, I'm always shocked when I run into people
who say I've never had coffee.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I take it you're taking a pass on the room
temperature water with a bit of lemon and Celtic salt.
Here's this guy's thing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You you would have to be. They were the perfect
marriage for a while until he wouldn't stop retiring and
she finally said, look, I want to raise kids and
you keep going back to work. But because his diet
was legendary, like our old producer Sean used to say,
his day was, he'd look at a picture of a
strawberry just I mean to that level of discipline. And
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his model wife apparently had it too. If in the
morning you're having room temperature water with salt in.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It and a bit of lemon, oh my god. So anyway,
so this this techtode I was talking about, he was
dealing with jet lag recently. Instead of turning to caffeine,
he did cryotherapy for three minutes, which is the what
like crazy cold temperature chambers thing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think they jump in the ice bath. I think
that's cryotherapy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm I ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I ain't get one at them.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
How about a coffee? Yeah, coffee, this is the new coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's interesting. Huh uh. If that catches on which things
come in and out of fashion. Coffee Starbucks can't be
happy about that. I had some coffee yesterday. I said, Ben,
it is delicious as so good. Somebody gave me a
little their coffee and it was holders instant put some
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ice in it, and I thought, good god, people. If
you'd told me that was a nine dollars frappy latte
something or other from New I would have believed it.
But it was Folger's instant in the cup with some
ice in it. Sucker, Yeah, Folgers is fine. And it's like,
I don't know, two dollars for a giant can of
it Armstrong and Getty. So the tru trial is going on,
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and Michael Cohen's on the stand. Got a bunch of
good texts, by the way, about people getting addicted to opioids,
which I think is good for all of us to here,
because even if you've never done that, there's a decent
chance you step up, step off a curb this week
and have excruciating pain and end up taking something you've
never taken before. So stay tune. But first, what numbers
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did you say these are?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I lost them for some reason there, Hanson, Okay, thanks,
you know and you're the one who plays them. So
let's play this. Let's play the first one first.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
And here it age between Todd Blanche and Michael Cohen.
So you only gave him twenty thousand dollars and you
took thirty thousand dollars, Blanche, you stole from the Trump organization, right,
Cohen says, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Blanche goes on later on he says.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You did steal from the Trump organization based upon the
expected reimbursement, correct, And he says yes, sir. So again
that is breaking it out because essentially they walked through
what it is that Michael Cohen actually paid Rentfitche. And
this goes back to hose what you were just talking
about in this brown paper bag all cash. He came
to the Trump organization an individual who worked for Redfinch
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to collect this payment twenty thousand dollars in which Michael
Cohen paid out to this individual the other thirty thousand
dollars Michael Cohen kept to himself. Subsequently, why Todd Blanch
is now saying, okay, so you stole from the Trump organization, correct,
And Michael Cohen says yes, correct.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Certainly a big exchange there at.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
The same momentous kind of exchange between Michael Cohen Todd b.
Michael Cohen says, yes, I, in fact stole the Trump organization.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
She is using her momentous voice to describe this. Is
it momentous to find out that he stole from the
Trump organization? Doesn't help his credibility? Why? How did did
Is this something Trump new and is learning in court?
How did his lawyers know it? No clue?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And if the idea is that Michael Cohen's a scumbag,
I think the jury's saying, yeah, yeah, we know.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think we can get twelve votes on that one.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, the holey' is a scumbag thing. If you have
more on that, we're probably good.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Let's hear a little more of this part of the testimony.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Michael Cohen explained this whole thing quote that's what was owed,
and I didn't feel mister Trump deserved the difference. That's
a lot different than I stole sixty thousand dollars from
my boss on the transaction at the heart of this case.
And by the way, the fact that he was ever
charged with larsening is important, becau because stealing sixty thousand
dollars through fraud, which would be larceny in New York
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State is more serious of a crime than falsifying business.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I can't wait to hear more about this. How did
this come up? I mean, how did Trump find out?
And why didn't they pursue it? And then Cohen's whole
I didn't think it was bad or whatever he said,
because I didn't think he deserved the difference or something. Well,
kind of stupid rationalization is that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is there some sort of world record for being a
scumbag witness? I mean, because we're getting close. Yeah, no
kidding now, yeah, I don't I don't know. This is
all a bit mystifying. I have a feeling that when
you deal with a character like Michael Cohen's going I
went that, you expect a certain amount of skullduggery. You
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probably check your accounts a lot. It's one of those
mob things. You expect him to steal little, but you
can't steal lot.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right, Uh, if you're adjured, does it matter to you
when you hear that Cohen stole sixty grand from his boss?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I think we're at the over egging the pudding station things.
Like I said before, Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Wow, they must have thought it was a big deal,
right They saved it for this last day closing arguments
to tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. They wanted the stink of
a crappy witness to be hanging thick in the air
right at the end of the trial.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
God, You're you're metaphors colorful metaphors today are awful. You've
had several that were just so unappair you dit no
that the words I thinking of.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
God. I think the out housishness of his testimony needs
his stinging the nostril of the jurors as we speak.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So we'll keep an eye on our trial. Okay. I
threw out there because I've taken a couple of hydro
codone over the last several days, one at a time,
small dose as far as I know. Anyway, because of
this motorcycle wreck I had, and the pain is really
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really annoying, like can't sleep. It's the worst ongoing pain
I've ever had. And I know a lot of people
have a lot of pain, so I'm not complaining about it.
But anyway, so I took these pills, not even sure
if I felt like they helped that much or not,
but so I was asking the questions since they're highly
addictive and I'm an alcoholic. Alcoholics are not supposed to
take this sort of stuff at all. I took one
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when I had cancer, but this is significantly more uncomfortable
when I had cancer. So I got a bunch of
text from people because I was asking a question, what's
it like when you start to get hooked? Or whatever?
I've been saying for years. So little is understood about addiction.
I rarely read anything that rings true to me about
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alcoholism when I'm reading papers written by non alcoholics talking
about it, that rings true with the thousands of alcoholics
I know. So it's just the real life experience is
so much different than what you read on a WebMD
or something like that. Have you watched louder Milk at all?
I have? Yeah, I want to, mostly because it's got
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Brian Reagan, the comedian in it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah. I watched the first episode and got to admit,
I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I was very amused.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Just a misanthropic substance abuse counselor d who can straighten
out his own life. But the jokes are just very funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, I have to check that out. Yeah, and the
humanity is pretty real too. So anyway, now you got
hooked on louder milk, did I get hooked on hydro codone?
Let's go to the texts if you start wanting to
take them for euphoric feeling and not pain. Hydro Codone
is low on the totem pole, but it can still happen.
So that's one thing. I remember that back when I
had vicot in for my wisdom teeth twenty years ago,
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I didn't get any happy feeling from vico in at all,
And I remember talking about in the air, and lots
of people were like, oh no, I take one vicot
in and it's like I'm flying. So part of it,
I think is might just be people's reaction to these drugs.
Some people it gives you that, you know, the feeling
I liked from Booze, the euphoric everything's great with the
world feeling, and some people just don't get that feeling. Yes, yeah,
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it's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I've dealt with this fair amount, having had two joint replacements,
and the first time it just helped with the pain.
Had various side effects, which I despised, and I thought,
how do you get addicted to this? And it was
funny because I read Jeff Tweety, who was a musician.
He's leader of the band Willkoe, among other things, and
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he was just a terrible, degenerate opioid addict. It's a
good thing he lit, but he quite movingly and openly
about the process in his autobiography. And the one thing
that stuck in my head was he described a sense
of almost maternal well being, that everything's gonna be okay
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that you get from it, that if you particularly have
his sort of anxiety and various issues, are good. And
then my second joint remard.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I got that from two cores lights, but I haven't
gotten it from hydroconone yet.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, But that was interesting because I, you know, you're
in a fair amount of pain for a while, but
I remember taking it and thinking, Hey, the pain's a
lot better, and it's going to be better soon anyway,
and this is all a great process and I'm going
to be happy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And I thought that's what Jeff tweet he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's half the pain relief and half the everything's fine
that you get out of it. So I kind of
sort of get it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
The other things that it did to me were so
terrible I wasn't tempted for a second.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right, other texts. We got to have time for this. Yes,
addiction beginnings. First sign is pill management, counting them, hiding them,
having a plan to get more. Oh yeah, that is
not good. When you start taking them because you don't
feel well instead of taking them for pain, you're in trouble. Okay,
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my sister had an injury that required constant med's own
oxyconton stuff and that sort of thing. I know there
was a point to this, maybe there's not. I don't know.
Feel better soon, Jack. I didn't get hooked, but I
injured my leg on the river. Those pills painfully blocked
me up. But I thank God for whatever reason, I
don't have the keep doing this gene with hydro cordon. Yeah,
(26:53):
I didn't have the keep doing this gene with this
so far or with vicodin. Like first time I ever had,
you know, a buzz from I was like, I want
to do this always for the rest of my life. Right,
And I don't have that feeling of the drugs. I
used to get prescribed hydro codon mainly for dental issues,
and I can tell you it is easy to get
hooked on this drug. And it was easy for me
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because I myself found myself functioning both at work and
at college, and I just felt better on them. So
I wonder if it's just some people genetically react to
painkillers with a everything's going to be okay feeling, and
some people don't.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think, yeah, And I think the strength of that
reaction would I read the other day?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It may have even been an email to the show. Yeah,
that's right. It was.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That contained the great conceit, lack of wisdom, blind spot
that a lot of human beings have, and it took
me a while to get over. You know now that
I'm gray headed, the idea that everybody experiences and perceives
the world the way you do. You've got to get
past that. And raising three kids helped different people react
(28:13):
to different stimuli, completely differentlynro Logically, the world looks different
to you than it does to me, probably subtly. It
smells different to you than it does to me, again,
probably fairly subtly, it sounds different. But emotional perceptions, the
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way we react to drugs, the way we react to illness,
how illness affects us, all of that stuff. It's a
conceit to think everybody reacts to this the same way,
and I'm just tougher than they are.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
For instance, this one I got my attention was addicted
to painkillers, had several members who died from their addictions indirectly.
It always starts with rationalization, So would that be well?
(29:07):
So I was asking somebody yesterday, because I worry about
this a lot as a guy, you know who's an alcoholic, that, uh,
do you start do you start convincing yourself you're in
more pain than you are as an excuse to take one.
So that's what scares the hell out of me. Am
I actually in as much pain as I think I am?
Or I am just thinking I'm in more pain because
(29:29):
I want to take the pill again. Nobody told me
that that's what happened to them. They said, it's actually
you just you. Uh. Their experiences were, if you are
you're in pain, the drug works on your pain. If
you're not in pain, the drug makes you high. So
if you take the drug without being in pain, it's
got no pain to work on. It makes you kind
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of high. Oh. I don't know if that's accurate or not,
but two people agreed that that was their experience with it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, well, I would suggest here's my rough draft in anybody,
you can feel free to come out on this. Anything
other than the pain is bad. Therefore, I am going
to take the dose my doctor recommended, and the pain
is less bad, so I'm going to take less of it.
Anything that departs from that, even a little bit, I'd say,
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be careful.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
My favorite thing I came across over the weekend was
for this particular thing injury that I've got in my chest. Uh,
it said, don't tug of war. It's one of the
things on my list of things I'm not supposed to do.
Get involved in a tug of war, which of course
ruined my weekend because that was my entire plan. Tug
of war day and night, all day long ends tugle wars.
(30:39):
No tug of war, no peace man. Huh, but tugle
war since fifth grade, I don't think, And.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
If somebody suggested it, I'd be like, no, no tug
of wars.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What you got to be alive, We'll finish strong.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Next, as they come to the top of the stretch,
seize the gray, turn it for home in front, fistick down,
confront's head, petchick, Freedom right behind let's swing it to
the outside.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Seize the gray.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's still there.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Fistick tad Bury down to the outside, saves the grave.
Welcome away, fist it dead, patchick freedom, putting down the center,
up the track.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But Waite Lucas has done it. Saize the gray. Wait
stop great tads. Wow he was fired up that guy.
So that was the second leg of the triple crown
and seize the gray one. And it's not the same
horse that won the Kentucky Derby. But I wonder if
this is gonna go away more or less, like so
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many things have just, you know, things coming in out
of style. Oh, it's like our executive producer Hanson mentioned
there's a heavyweight boxing match with the Weekend. I didn't
even know what happened. When I was young, every single
human I knew would have known that boxing match happened, right,
Things coming in out of style of popularity. And like,
my kids are completely unaware of the existence of the
(32:10):
Kentucky Derby. If I mentioned it to him, they be
what what is that? And when I was a kid,
I knew exactly what it was and I watched it
every year for some reason. But it's just gonna go away.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
So behind the scenes, I was griping at our producer
Mike Hanson for having a clip of the Preakness, which
nobody cares about, not having a clip of the glorious
and exciting PGA Championship, one of the four major golf
tournaments of the year. So I was digging into ratings
and the best is I can determine they're both of
minor significance to the American public.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did Tiger Woods win? He would?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Did? He'd absolutely did? Jackie won by thirty strokes? Tuned in, Yes,
you should have Now he's uh, he's a broken down
old man who can't make the cut, but he's out
there grinding.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's a you know what, you gotta admire. But can
he still get with the with the Perkins waitresses? If
you want to see farther, I'm.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Probably little higl maybe the blue Pill, but hey, he's
adri Um. What was I gonna say? It doesn't matter
it was. I tell you what that was for me.
If I'm gonna have the COVID the weekend of one
of the major championships, oh that was. That was taking
lemons and squeeze a little lemonade out.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
No doubt good excuse to spend a fair amount of
time watching sports on TV.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
If by a fair amount you mean enormous amounts of time. Yes,
all day, every day.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh really awesome. Yeah, yeah, check your clarkis time stop?
Jack and Joe. They've got to go, and.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
If they don't get Candy'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, shiver like I'm in the Antarctic. Then sweat like
I have malaria. Then shiver some more under a blanket
on the couch when it's eighty five degrees out, and
then sweat.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like I have malaria.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
He has COVID. He's your host for final thoughts, Joe Geddy.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the day. There is our
technical director, Mike Lanswell. Michael, Jack, you mentioned that tugo war.
You haven't been in one many years. I think they
need to bring.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Back tugle wars.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We can settle disputes instead of all this ridiculousness in Congress.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good tug of war. It's easy. You put a flag
in the middle, you have a line. Somebody wins the anchor.
Oh yeah, of course, you got a fat person on
the anchor.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
One of the most interesting things I've ever learned about
physics is how much tension builds up in the rope
as it's being pulled in both directions, and if it snaps,
people have been killed many times. Wow, because there's so
much energy stored in that rope. Why, which is why
it's really important you use a good rope for tug
of war moving along.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's a great tip to get on the radio today.
Use a really good rope for your war.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
It's it's interesting to picture that much energy being stored
in something. Then when that energy lets loose, well you
no longer have a head. Katie Green are esteemed to
News one as final thought, Katie.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So, I already had a dog. Her name is Beans,
and I got another dog over the weekend. His name
is Frank. So I now have dogs named franken Beans.
There you go, purely a coincidence. Well, what is not
to like about that story?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
What sort of a hound is frank?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
We're not too short to rescue. It's gott Sego poodle
in it. I don't know love who love it close enough? Jack?
A final thought for us, As I've said before, as
a guy who was a mediocre athlete at best. It
was very nerve wracking for me to play sports as
a kid, But it turns out it's more nerve racking
to watch as a parent, to watch your own kid.
I would rather have been me on the field than
(35:38):
watch him. It's amazing, so true.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Ah dah well, I did my final thought, So go ahead,
because you got the COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Armstrong and Geeddy wrack up another grueling four hour workday.
No is that tugle wars thing? So many people?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Thanks so a little time go to Armstrong Geeddy dot com.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Lot great clicks there, Yes, our tuggle war warning of
the day. See tomorrow. God bless America.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I'm Strong and Getty and I'm happy to take questions
of you.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm supposed to do nanswer whatever you want me to do.
Quite frankly, I have a lot of questions as well.
What do we want to be losers or winners?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I want winners, right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You're a loser, all right. It's like ray on your
wedding day. It comes in the morning. It did me
no good whatsoever. Okay, I note, thank you all very much.
Have a terrific day. Armstrong and Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington
Broadcast There, Jack Armstrong and Shoe Getty Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The President of Iran is dead and died in a
helicopter crash over the weekend. The President of Iran doesn't
really do a lot, as it is a theocracy run
by the Supreme Leader. But he was next in line
perhaps to be the Supreme leader and an evil some bitch,
So I'm glad he's dead. Unspeakably evil.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, he had an important functional leadership role in Iran.
He wasn't the head guy like our president is, but
he was absolutely part of the power cabal.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And being dead is only a good thing. Sure, I
hope none of you watch the Sunday news shows. I
assume most of you don't. They don't give very good ratings.
They've always been tried to make prison do that. The
Supreme Court at overturn it. I feel like they do
have some influence among policymakers. They must or those or
(01:12):
they wouldn't. People wouldn't go on the shows, would they
if they didn't make any difference. She wouldn't get up
on a Sunday morning and go into the studio and
be on the show. If it didn't make any difference,
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I just I think the question is what difference
does it make. It's absolutely a power move, a status
move inside the Beltway high school.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But yeah it matters. You know,
it's an inside baseball sort of thing for it mattering.
They're talking to each other more than they're talking to
the public. But I they're worse than they used to be.
I think because I've been watching them for decades and
I really feel like they're worse than they used to be.
First of all, the hosts debate the guests. If the
(01:53):
guests are Republicans, they debate them. You come on the
show and they debate you. They don't debate Democrats. They
ask questions to allow the Democrats to put out their
policy positions. On the Republicans, they debate them, Yep, even
when they're wrong. To this point, Marco Rubio was on
(02:14):
Yesterday and Meet the Press, which might be the most
maddening of the shows. That Kristan Walker, woman who debates
every Republican guest with like just a tinge of anger
in her voice, that a Republican is on there saying anything.
They got onto the topic of immigration, and they did
a bunch of other topics abortion for instance, in which uh,
(02:36):
she would say something then Marco Ruby would say, well
the way he's like that is not true, that is
not true what you just said, the building and blah
blah blah, and she'd say, well, we need to move on. No, no, no,
you don't get to just say something and then move on.
So Marco Rubio is pretty fired up, and it was great,
I think because he's applying for the vice president job.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh how how thoroughly would he dismantle Kamala harrise.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Wow, they'd have to say they'd have to stop the fight.
That would be just too ugly to watch. It'd be
like PDT and his girlfriend in the hallway. I mean,
it just would be a oohver please belie. But anyway,
on the subject of immigration, I thought it was playing
for you all. These are a couple of long clips,
but this is Christian Welker Meet the Press with Mark
Rubio as a guest seventy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
If re elected, Donald Trump has said he's willing to
build migrant detention camps and deploy the US military to
deport the more than eleven million undocumented immigrants in this country.
It would be the largest deportation operation in American history.
Do you support that plan?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Eleven million, that's an outdate. That was the number ten
years ago. We're talking upwards a twenty twenty five, maybe
thirty million. There's been almost ten million people in a
country in the law for me in the last three
yeard question. Would you say the number varies big time?
I mean it's another nine to ten million people just
in the last three years. The answer to your question is, yes,
we cannot absorb twenty five thirty million people who entered
(03:57):
this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're here illegally. What country nurse would tolerate that.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
We don't even know who some of these most of
these people are. They talk about vetting, vetting them with
what they're coming from, nations that don't even have document
systems in many cases, Yes, we're going to have to
do something. Unfortunately, we're going to have to do something
dramatic to remove people from this country that are here illegally,
especially people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We know nothing about.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But ten million, eleven million, that was the number fifteen
years ago. Today it's upwards of probably twenty five to
thirty million, maybe more.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Glad he pointed that out. He's absolutely right. It goes on,
will you.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Accept the election results of twenty twenty four, no matter
what happened, Senator, No.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Matter what happens.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
No, if it's an unfair election, I think it's going
to be massify.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We Sideator, no matter, Why don't you?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I think you're asking the wrong person. The Democrats are
the ones that have opposed every Republican victory since two thousand,
every single one.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's Hillary Democrat has.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Refused to concede. Hillary Clinton conceded, Senator, will you accept
the election?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Hillary Clinton said the election was stolen from her and
that Trump was a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Kamala Harris agreed, we have democrats election.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Senator, she could see the election.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She said that.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
She said that no, she said that Trump was illegitimate.
She said that the election had been stolen. Kamala Harris agreed.
By the way, there are Democrats serving in Congress today
who in two thousand and four voted not to certify
the Ohio electors because they said those machines have been
tampered with. And you have Democrats now saying they won't
certify twenty twenty four because Trump is an insurrection, it's
(05:19):
been ineligible to hold office, so you need to ask them.
I think you've had I never asked the Democrat this
question on the show. I bet you you've never asked
the Democrat that question.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh he's so good, he is good. Oh man, Marco
has the rhetorical skills. He is good, and he was
so right. Again, the hosts on these shows debate the Republicans,
the Democrats, they just set them up to, you know,
announce their policies right exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, they're on there a volleyball team, so they just
set them up for a little spike and they try
to block the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I appreciated Marco.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
While the giant deportation plan would be enormously complicated the
way Trump is in some of his surrogates have described
it much much, much more. Deportation I think is absolutely doable,
particularly if we can straighten out the asylum system. But
more importantly, what I was going to say is Marco
(06:15):
was absolutely right touch on that if you want focus
on the numbers, focus on the rampant illegal immigration, the
mind boggling numbers, that is what's going to stick in
the American people's consciousness.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah. She actually then played some clips of him in
twenty fifteen being against deportation, and he said that was
a different situation. We had eleven million people, most of
whom had been here for years and years and years.
We were not going to deport them. This is new,
They're all new. We have people that have just gotten here.
We have no idea who they are, lots of more criminals.
It's a completely different situation. You can't compare the two.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, right exactly. I think that's thoroughly defensible. If we
have one party goer who won't leave the house and
catch our hints, and Judy says, you want me to call.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The cops, say no.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
If we have eleven people who announced we're squatting and
we aren't leaving, I'm calling the cops. The number has
changed materially where these folks are coming from. That's another
thing you have to remember, is I think a lot
of us first became aware of the whole legal immigration
situation formed some of our attitudes when it was almost
(07:22):
entirely working age men from Mexico, of course, trying to
make some money to send it back home. And you
certainly ought to enforce your border laws and immigration laws,
and we ought to have a guest worker program.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's very different from tens of thousands of Chinese nationals
are coming into the country undocumented, tens of the hundreds
of thousands from communist regimes like Venezuela, from you know,
hell holes like Haiti, full of lawlessness, you got your
drug cartels. I mean that the situation has changed fundamentally,
and for the worse. You have tens of thousands of
(07:56):
gang members coming into the country from Venezuela and places.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I was on team Burgham last week, Doug Bergham, governor
of North Dakota, as thinking he was who Trump would
pick or should pick. Man after watching Marco yesterday, I
what's what's the downside of Marco Rubio?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, the obvious thing everybody points out is that the
electors in Florida could not cast their votes for both
President Trump and Marco Rubio because they're both from Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Issue.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
On the other hand, all Trump has to do is say, yeah,
Trump Tower's my home. I'm a I'm a registered to
vote in New York and that would be fine. Everybody's
talking about how could you have Marco like change the dress.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, he's the Miami guy. That's who he is. Okay,
So assuming we get around that, is there any any
downside to Marco Rubio? Some people think he would out
he's a little too powerful, little too charismatic to have
on the same ticket. I don't know. Trump's a pretty
big personality.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, if I were Trump, I might he excuse me,
still pouncing back from the COVID. If I were Trump,
I'd be a little concerned about that because the VEEPS
needs to sit down and shut up and do what
he's told. He cannot outshine the president. That's just kind
of the way it's always been. And I'd be a
little concerned with Marco because he's so gifted.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I could actually also see a situation where, mean, there's
five months ago Trump does or says something that Marco
Rubio can't just go along with, where he'd have to say, no,
that was he shouldn't have said that or something.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I have a feeling Marco is meeting right now with
his most trusted friends, advisors, spiritual advisors, the Poet Laureate.
He's meeting with the book the last three National Book
Award winners to all get together to craft the perfect
(09:54):
phrase that says something. The effect of the president's his
own man. He speaks his own mind, and those are
his words, not mine. Boy, you'd agree with him. The
president's his own man. He speaks his own mind, and
those are his words.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He did that sort of thing on the abortion issue,
which I didn't play just because we don't do that
much abortion talk. But that was fiery. That was the
first part of the interview with Mark Rubio, and she
brought up some things where Trump is not as far
pro life as he is, and his answer was, look,
in our party, we have different degrees of where you
are on the chart and your party it's one thing.
(10:31):
It's one thing, and if you don't go along, you
can't be in the party at all. And I thought
I was well handled. Wow, he's skillful. He is good.
If I'm Trump, I want him out there. I certainly
want him debating Kamala Harris. And yes, we know you
don't have to write your angry emails. He's a globalist.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's an old school Reagan and old boomer global president.
He's not going to do anything, eh, not until Trump
croaks from a too many big Max or I mean
the guys old as hell.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
There's no guarantee makes it through the term. An ex
wife puts an ice pick in his head. That could happen.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh my gosh. Although Trump does have the he's going
to live a long damn time. Yes he does, feel
to him. Yes, yes he does. You got COVID? You
had COVID last week or you still have a little
bit of it lingering? You don't know if you got
long COVID or anyway, nosout it. This Babylon be headline
doctor cures long COVID by telling patients to quit faking it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I thought that it is unkind because I know people
with long COVID and it's horrible. But I thought the
joke was funny. Speaking of health, I got a question
for you. Have you ever been addicted to opiates? I
got a question for him, hoping you can answer this question.
Are you asking me specifically a listener?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Okay, I guess. I was looking at you and pointing
at you so I can see how you universal exactly,
among other things on the way, I stay with us
perfect song, Michael am I living life in the fastling
(12:12):
everything all the time. I called the doctor, I think
I'm gonna crash. That's where I am right now because
I'm on the opioids. Really yeah, So what I was
wondering at, Sure you are am? I sure I am?
What What are you? What are you taking hydro codone? Oh?
You are? Because that's not the one you mentioned last week? No, no, no.
(12:36):
I turned this on Friday because I just the pain
from my crash is bad and I just can't get
any sleep. Plus it's just freaking painful. Anyway. Everything I've
read about it is it's like the most highly addictive
drug practically in the world. But what I wanted to
(12:57):
throw it to you is a listen. I want to
hear personal experience, not like something I look up on
webind I want to hear from you if you ever
got hooked on, because you hear these stories all the time.
Brett Farr of The Football Player. There's a gazillion examples
of people who add an injury legit reason to take
a painkiller ended up getting addicted. What's it like in
the What are what are the stages of it? If
(13:17):
you've been through it of becoming addicted, what are the stages?
How do you know you're headed down that road. What's
specially the early couple? Hunh Yeah, what's the first inkling that?
Looking back? Once you become addicted? Looking back on that,
you're going down the stage. I had a couple of
people tell me some things, but I'll I'll get to
those later after we get some texts. I just wonder
(13:39):
if anybody's got any thoughts on their personal adventure with
this sort of thing. Might be helpful for everybody, actually,
because everybody could end up taking these pain pills for
a variety of reasons at different times in their life.
Text line four one five two nine five KFTC. Four
one five two nine five KFTC. We'll get to some
of the texts later this hour.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Speaking of addiction, the newest humbled brand Jack, are you
familiar with this? If you're a hipster, you're on the go,
you're well known. Latest humble brag is I don't touch
coffee and I'm more productive and energetic as a result.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I want to punch you right in the face. Would
you say that to me? Coffee's for the week?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Jack, supermodel Giselle Bunchin who can't keep a marriage together?
I blame the man. It starts your morning with the
room temperature water with a bit of lemon and Celtic
salt instead of coffee. That's right, room temperature water with
a bit of lemon and Celtic salt.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Whatever. That is Celtic salt for the cool people who
have moved past sea salt that was so popular for
a while.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And him lay in pink salt.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
All right, so yesterday, Oh you're still using sea salt
or pink salt. Oh, I'm sad for you. I'm on
the kilto salt, Celtic salt. I'm guessing all salts are
the same. It's NaCl sodium chloride.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, NBA star Giannis ten coombo ops for aus. The
actor Sydney Sweeney, who's a professional pair of Hooters. I
mean she can act as well as anybody, but has
never tried coffee. Investor in television personality Mark Cuban drinks decalf.
I think sleep is the new coffee, said Brian Johnson,
(15:18):
founder of payments platform Braintree Venmo and nutrition program Blueprint,
who's been working on ways to slow and reverse aging.
New social norms are emerging.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He says, I'm always shocked when I run into people
who say I've never had coffee.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I take it you're taking a pass on the room
temperature water with a bit of lemon and Celtic salt.
Here's this guy's thing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You you would have to be. They were the perfect
marriage for a while until he wouldn't stop retiring and
she finally said, look, I want to raise kids and
you keep going back to work. But because his diet
was legendary, like our old producer Sean used to say,
his day was, he'd look at a picture of a
strawberry just I mean to that level of discipline. And
(16:06):
his model wife apparently had it too. If in the
morning you're having room temperature water with salt in.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It and a bit of lemon, oh my god. So anyway,
so this this techtode I was talking about, he was
dealing with jet lag recently. Instead of turning to caffeine,
he did cryotherapy for three minutes, which is the what
like crazy cold temperature chambers thing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think they jump in the ice bath. I think
that's cryotherapy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm I ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I ain't get one at them.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
How about a coffee? Yeah, coffee, this is the new coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's interesting. Huh uh. If that catches on which things
come in and out of fashion. Coffee Starbucks can't be
happy about that. I had some coffee yesterday. I said, Ben,
it is delicious as so good. Somebody gave me a
little their coffee and it was holders instant put some
(17:02):
ice in it, and I thought, good god, people. If
you'd told me that was a nine dollars frappy latte
something or other from New I would have believed it.
But it was Folger's instant in the cup with some
ice in it. Sucker, Yeah, Folgers is fine. And it's like,
I don't know, two dollars for a giant can of
it Armstrong and Getty. So the tru trial is going on,
(17:27):
and Michael Cohen's on the stand. Got a bunch of
good texts, by the way, about people getting addicted to opioids,
which I think is good for all of us to here,
because even if you've never done that, there's a decent
chance you step up, step off a curb this week
and have excruciating pain and end up taking something you've
never taken before. So stay tune. But first, what numbers
(17:51):
did you say these are?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I lost them for some reason there, Hanson, Okay, thanks,
you know and you're the one who plays them. So
let's play this. Let's play the first one first.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
And here it age between Todd Blanche and Michael Cohen.
So you only gave him twenty thousand dollars and you
took thirty thousand dollars, Blanche, you stole from the Trump organization, right,
Cohen says, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Blanche goes on later on he says.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You did steal from the Trump organization based upon the
expected reimbursement, correct, And he says yes, sir. So again
that is breaking it out because essentially they walked through
what it is that Michael Cohen actually paid Rentfitche. And
this goes back to hose what you were just talking
about in this brown paper bag all cash. He came
to the Trump organization an individual who worked for Redfinch
(18:37):
to collect this payment twenty thousand dollars in which Michael
Cohen paid out to this individual the other thirty thousand
dollars Michael Cohen kept to himself. Subsequently, why Todd Blanch
is now saying, okay, so you stole from the Trump organization, correct,
And Michael Cohen says yes, correct.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Certainly a big exchange there at.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
The same momentous kind of exchange between Michael Cohen Todd b.
Michael Cohen says, yes, I, in fact stole the Trump organization.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
She is using her momentous voice to describe this. Is
it momentous to find out that he stole from the
Trump organization? Doesn't help his credibility? Why? How did did
Is this something Trump new and is learning in court?
How did his lawyers know it? No clue?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And if the idea is that Michael Cohen's a scumbag,
I think the jury's saying, yeah, yeah, we know.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think we can get twelve votes on that one.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, the holey' is a scumbag thing. If you have
more on that, we're probably good.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Let's hear a little more of this part of the testimony.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Michael Cohen explained this whole thing quote that's what was owed,
and I didn't feel mister Trump deserved the difference. That's
a lot different than I stole sixty thousand dollars from
my boss on the transaction at the heart of this case.
And by the way, the fact that he was ever
charged with larsening is important, becau because stealing sixty thousand
dollars through fraud, which would be larceny in New York
(20:04):
State is more serious of a crime than falsifying business.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I can't wait to hear more about this. How did
this come up? I mean, how did Trump find out?
And why didn't they pursue it? And then Cohen's whole
I didn't think it was bad or whatever he said,
because I didn't think he deserved the difference or something. Well,
kind of stupid rationalization is that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is there some sort of world record for being a
scumbag witness? I mean, because we're getting close. Yeah, no
kidding now, yeah, I don't I don't know. This is
all a bit mystifying. I have a feeling that when
you deal with a character like Michael Cohen's going I
went that, you expect a certain amount of skullduggery. You
(20:52):
probably check your accounts a lot. It's one of those
mob things. You expect him to steal little, but you
can't steal lot.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right, Uh, if you're adjured, does it matter to you
when you hear that Cohen stole sixty grand from his boss?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I think we're at the over egging the pudding station things.
Like I said before, Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Wow, they must have thought it was a big deal,
right They saved it for this last day closing arguments
to tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. They wanted the stink of
a crappy witness to be hanging thick in the air
right at the end of the trial.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
God, You're you're metaphors colorful metaphors today are awful. You've
had several that were just so unappair you dit no
that the words I thinking of.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
God. I think the out housishness of his testimony needs
his stinging the nostril of the jurors as we speak.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So we'll keep an eye on our trial. Okay. I
threw out there because I've taken a couple of hydro
codone over the last several days, one at a time,
small dose as far as I know. Anyway, because of
this motorcycle wreck I had, and the pain is really
(22:23):
really annoying, like can't sleep. It's the worst ongoing pain
I've ever had. And I know a lot of people
have a lot of pain, so I'm not complaining about it.
But anyway, so I took these pills, not even sure
if I felt like they helped that much or not,
but so I was asking the questions since they're highly
addictive and I'm an alcoholic. Alcoholics are not supposed to
take this sort of stuff at all. I took one
(22:45):
when I had cancer, but this is significantly more uncomfortable
when I had cancer. So I got a bunch of
text from people because I was asking a question, what's
it like when you start to get hooked? Or whatever?
I've been saying for years. So little is understood about addiction.
I rarely read anything that rings true to me about
(23:07):
alcoholism when I'm reading papers written by non alcoholics talking
about it, that rings true with the thousands of alcoholics
I know. So it's just the real life experience is
so much different than what you read on a WebMD
or something like that. Have you watched louder Milk at all?
I have? Yeah, I want to, mostly because it's got
(23:28):
Brian Reagan, the comedian in it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah. I watched the first episode and got to admit,
I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I was very amused.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Just a misanthropic substance abuse counselor d who can straighten
out his own life. But the jokes are just very funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, I have to check that out. Yeah, and the
humanity is pretty real too. So anyway, now you got
hooked on louder milk, did I get hooked on hydro codone?
Let's go to the texts if you start wanting to
take them for euphoric feeling and not pain. Hydro Codone
is low on the totem pole, but it can still happen.
So that's one thing. I remember that back when I
had vicot in for my wisdom teeth twenty years ago,
(24:06):
I didn't get any happy feeling from vico in at all,
And I remember talking about in the air, and lots
of people were like, oh no, I take one vicot
in and it's like I'm flying. So part of it,
I think is might just be people's reaction to these drugs.
Some people it gives you that, you know, the feeling
I liked from Booze, the euphoric everything's great with the
world feeling, and some people just don't get that feeling. Yes, yeah,
(24:32):
it's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I've dealt with this fair amount, having had two joint replacements,
and the first time it just helped with the pain.
Had various side effects, which I despised, and I thought,
how do you get addicted to this? And it was
funny because I read Jeff Tweety, who was a musician.
He's leader of the band Willkoe, among other things, and
(24:53):
he was just a terrible, degenerate opioid addict. It's a
good thing he lit, but he quite movingly and openly
about the process in his autobiography. And the one thing
that stuck in my head was he described a sense
of almost maternal well being, that everything's gonna be okay
(25:18):
that you get from it, that if you particularly have
his sort of anxiety and various issues, are good. And
then my second joint remard.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I got that from two cores lights, but I haven't
gotten it from hydroconone yet.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, But that was interesting because I, you know, you're
in a fair amount of pain for a while, but
I remember taking it and thinking, Hey, the pain's a
lot better, and it's going to be better soon anyway,
and this is all a great process and I'm going
to be happy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And I thought that's what Jeff tweet he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's half the pain relief and half the everything's fine
that you get out of it. So I kind of
sort of get it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
The other things that it did to me were so
terrible I wasn't tempted for a second.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right, other texts. We got to have time for this. Yes,
addiction beginnings. First sign is pill management, counting them, hiding them,
having a plan to get more. Oh yeah, that is
not good. When you start taking them because you don't
feel well instead of taking them for pain, you're in trouble. Okay,
(26:29):
my sister had an injury that required constant med's own
oxyconton stuff and that sort of thing. I know there
was a point to this, maybe there's not. I don't know.
Feel better soon, Jack. I didn't get hooked, but I
injured my leg on the river. Those pills painfully blocked
me up. But I thank God for whatever reason, I
don't have the keep doing this gene with hydro cordon. Yeah,
(26:53):
I didn't have the keep doing this gene with this
so far or with vicodin. Like first time I ever had,
you know, a buzz from I was like, I want
to do this always for the rest of my life. Right,
And I don't have that feeling of the drugs. I
used to get prescribed hydro codon mainly for dental issues,
and I can tell you it is easy to get
hooked on this drug. And it was easy for me
(27:15):
because I myself found myself functioning both at work and
at college, and I just felt better on them. So
I wonder if it's just some people genetically react to
painkillers with a everything's going to be okay feeling, and
some people don't.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think, yeah, And I think the strength of that
reaction would I read the other day?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It may have even been an email to the show. Yeah,
that's right. It was.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That contained the great conceit, lack of wisdom, blind spot
that a lot of human beings have, and it took
me a while to get over. You know now that
I'm gray headed, the idea that everybody experiences and perceives
the world the way you do. You've got to get
past that. And raising three kids helped different people react
(28:13):
to different stimuli, completely differentlynro Logically, the world looks different
to you than it does to me, probably subtly. It
smells different to you than it does to me, again,
probably fairly subtly, it sounds different. But emotional perceptions, the
(28:34):
way we react to drugs, the way we react to illness,
how illness affects us, all of that stuff. It's a
conceit to think everybody reacts to this the same way,
and I'm just tougher than they are.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
For instance, this one I got my attention was addicted
to painkillers, had several members who died from their addictions indirectly.
It always starts with rationalization, So would that be well?
(29:07):
So I was asking somebody yesterday, because I worry about
this a lot as a guy, you know who's an alcoholic, that, uh,
do you start do you start convincing yourself you're in
more pain than you are as an excuse to take one.
So that's what scares the hell out of me. Am
I actually in as much pain as I think I am?
Or I am just thinking I'm in more pain because
(29:29):
I want to take the pill again. Nobody told me
that that's what happened to them. They said, it's actually
you just you. Uh. Their experiences were, if you are
you're in pain, the drug works on your pain. If
you're not in pain, the drug makes you high. So
if you take the drug without being in pain, it's
got no pain to work on. It makes you kind
(29:50):
of high. Oh. I don't know if that's accurate or not,
but two people agreed that that was their experience with it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, well, I would suggest here's my rough draft in anybody,
you can feel free to come out on this. Anything
other than the pain is bad. Therefore, I am going
to take the dose my doctor recommended, and the pain
is less bad, so I'm going to take less of it.
Anything that departs from that, even a little bit, I'd say,
(30:17):
be careful.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
My favorite thing I came across over the weekend was
for this particular thing injury that I've got in my chest. Uh,
it said, don't tug of war. It's one of the
things on my list of things I'm not supposed to do.
Get involved in a tug of war, which of course
ruined my weekend because that was my entire plan. Tug
of war day and night, all day long ends tugle wars.
(30:39):
No tug of war, no peace man. Huh, but tugle
war since fifth grade, I don't think, And.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
If somebody suggested it, I'd be like, no, no tug
of wars.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What you got to be alive, We'll finish strong.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Next, as they come to the top of the stretch,
seize the gray, turn it for home in front, fistick down,
confront's head, petchick, Freedom right behind let's swing it to
the outside.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Seize the gray.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's still there.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Fistick tad Bury down to the outside, saves the grave.
Welcome away, fist it dead, patchick freedom, putting down the center,
up the track.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But Waite Lucas has done it. Saize the gray. Wait
stop great tads. Wow he was fired up that guy.
So that was the second leg of the triple crown
and seize the gray one. And it's not the same
horse that won the Kentucky Derby. But I wonder if
this is gonna go away more or less, like so
(31:49):
many things have just, you know, things coming in out
of style. Oh, it's like our executive producer Hanson mentioned
there's a heavyweight boxing match with the Weekend. I didn't
even know what happened. When I was young, every single
human I knew would have known that boxing match happened, right,
Things coming in out of style of popularity. And like,
my kids are completely unaware of the existence of the
(32:10):
Kentucky Derby. If I mentioned it to him, they be
what what is that? And when I was a kid,
I knew exactly what it was and I watched it
every year for some reason. But it's just gonna go away.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
So behind the scenes, I was griping at our producer
Mike Hanson for having a clip of the Preakness, which
nobody cares about, not having a clip of the glorious
and exciting PGA Championship, one of the four major golf
tournaments of the year. So I was digging into ratings
and the best is I can determine they're both of
minor significance to the American public.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did Tiger Woods win? He would?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Did? He'd absolutely did? Jackie won by thirty strokes? Tuned in, Yes,
you should have Now he's uh, he's a broken down
old man who can't make the cut, but he's out
there grinding.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's a you know what, you gotta admire. But can
he still get with the with the Perkins waitresses? If
you want to see farther, I'm.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Probably little higl maybe the blue Pill, but hey, he's
adri Um. What was I gonna say? It doesn't matter
it was. I tell you what that was for me.
If I'm gonna have the COVID the weekend of one
of the major championships, oh that was. That was taking
lemons and squeeze a little lemonade out.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
No doubt good excuse to spend a fair amount of
time watching sports on TV.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
If by a fair amount you mean enormous amounts of time. Yes,
all day, every day.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh really awesome. Yeah, yeah, check your clarkis time stop?
Jack and Joe. They've got to go, and.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
If they don't get Candy'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, shiver like I'm in the Antarctic. Then sweat like
I have malaria. Then shiver some more under a blanket
on the couch when it's eighty five degrees out, and
then sweat.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like I have malaria.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
He has COVID. He's your host for final thoughts, Joe Geddy.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the day. There is our
technical director, Mike Lanswell. Michael, Jack, you mentioned that tugo war.
You haven't been in one many years. I think they
need to bring.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Back tugle wars.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We can settle disputes instead of all this ridiculousness in Congress.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good tug of war. It's easy. You put a flag
in the middle, you have a line. Somebody wins the anchor.
Oh yeah, of course, you got a fat person on
the anchor.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
One of the most interesting things I've ever learned about
physics is how much tension builds up in the rope
as it's being pulled in both directions, and if it snaps,
people have been killed many times. Wow, because there's so
much energy stored in that rope. Why, which is why
it's really important you use a good rope for tug
of war moving along.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's a great tip to get on the radio today.
Use a really good rope for your war.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
It's it's interesting to picture that much energy being stored
in something. Then when that energy lets loose, well you
no longer have a head. Katie Green are esteemed to
News one as final thought, Katie.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So, I already had a dog. Her name is Beans,
and I got another dog over the weekend. His name
is Frank. So I now have dogs named franken Beans.
There you go, purely a coincidence. Well, what is not
to like about that story?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
What sort of a hound is frank?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
We're not too short to rescue. It's gott Sego poodle
in it. I don't know love who love it close enough? Jack?
A final thought for us, As I've said before, as
a guy who was a mediocre athlete at best. It
was very nerve wracking for me to play sports as
a kid, But it turns out it's more nerve racking
to watch as a parent, to watch your own kid.
I would rather have been me on the field than
(35:38):
watch him. It's amazing, so true.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Ah dah well, I did my final thought, So go ahead,
because you got the COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Armstrong and Geeddy wrack up another grueling four hour workday.
No is that tugle wars thing? So many people?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Thanks so a little time go to Armstrong Geeddy dot com.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Lot great clicks there, Yes, our tuggle war warning of
the day. See tomorrow. God bless America.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I'm Strong and Getty and I'm happy to take questions
of you.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm supposed to do nanswer whatever you want me to do.
Quite frankly, I have a lot of questions as well.
What do we want to be losers or winners?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I want winners, right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You're a loser, all right. It's like ray on your
wedding day. It comes in the morning. It did me
no good whatsoever. Okay, I note, thank you all very much.
Have a terrific day. Armstrong and Getty
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