May 13, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 1 of the Monday May 13 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Show features...
- Michael Cohen in Court!...
- Mailbag...
- There aren't enough babies...
- Katie Green has The Lead Story!
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now protest and live Jack Armstrong and show Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Key.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Armstrong and Jetty who from the studio scene see signor
it is a dimly lit room where teep with the powl.
So the Armstrong you Getty Communications Calmpound kick off a
brand new week of intermation. The man, there's a lot
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in the uh uh. I don't know what would you
call it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We already got a lot locked into the ready to
shoot out the information into the atmosphere or something.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't know. I have to work on that. The
technology is still forming up and today we are under
the tutelage of our general manager. Witnesses what witnesses, I
don't know some of them, all of them. Okay, have
you been watching the news today? You've already seen the
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news helicopters following the car. Michael Cohen is in from
wherever he was staying to the courthouse. He says, what rock?
He says, who says all the cable news shows? Okay,
that's right, that's right. He lives under a rock. That's hilarious.
He lives under a rock.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And they he crawled up from underneath his rock, got
into a limo and they took him to the courthouse.
So is that gonna be I don't I don't know
what's allowed and what's not. I barely understand these what
you can do and what you can't do, and I'm
always wrong. But can they can Well, first of all,
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it'll be the prosecution talking to him for like a
day or two, they think, so the jazzy stuffs are
not probably gonna come in for a couple of days
in the cross examination. But during the cross examination, can
they bring up all of his prior convictions, all the
other times he's sat there in a courtroom and lied
to juries.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Can they talk about that? Absolutely? Yeah, it goes directly
to the witness's reliability.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, could you could you say, ladies and gentlemen
of the jury, this guy right here has sat in
a courtroom multiple times, looks just like this one in
front of people a lot like you, the judge sitting
there and lied. He's done it enough times, he's been
in jail, He's done it multiple times.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Can you say, let's say you would say that in
the closing arguments. But the beautiful part about the cross
examination is you make him say it. Have you been
convicted of perjury? Yes? How many times I don't remember,
is it three times? I think so? Yes, So you
sat in a courtroom like.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This with a jury looking at you, and you and
you lied while they were watching you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It was a different jury. He'll try to come off
as wise ass because he can't help himself, right, says
in himself, says Ma, says him.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And he doesn't seem to be that smart, which you
don't necessarily get a smart guy to do your dirty work,
or a lot of smart guys wouldn't do your dirty work.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Right exactly. Yeah, but yeah, and whatever credibility he has
in front of the jury for or I'm sorry, whatever
lack of credibility he has in front of the jury
for just good solid reasons of his record, he will
lose any credibility has just because he'll come off as
a pardon me, dick. And so, yeah, I think it's
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it's going to be a a poop show on the
level of Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Or better, and well legally wise it's not Illegally it's
not gonna be near as jazzy, no doubt about that.
Not nearly as many references to underpants and sexual positions
exactly condom use.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, there won't be any testimony like the joke on
Saturday or Live was. By the end of it, the jury,
the jury made her sign a non disclosed agreement. They
didn't want to hear any more from her. It's a
funny joke. There's not gonna be any yeah, that stuff
from him. So in terms of the count into sexual positions,
that's like saying you got into ice cream flavors. What
do you have, vanilla? That's not a discussion of ice
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cream flavors at all. That wasn't a discussion. I thought
we were going to talk about sexual positions, missionary, and
then we're done. I've been I've been cheated, gentlemen of
the jury, Women and gentlemen, where's the humble wheelbarrow? Come on?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Man I took in way too much news about the
Israeli conflict over the weekend. So you'll have to be
in charge of stopping me if I go too far,
because I just like I would, I did the deepest
of deep dodgs. Well, I'm injured from my motorcycle wreck,
so I can't do much. But man, I took in
a lot of Israel info, Like I watched two documentaries.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
About past peace processes.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh boy, like so I get three or four hours
of that in reading and listening to podcasts. I was
just gonna ask, if you were to briefly characterize your
major takeaway or takeaways from the weekend's inquiries, what would
it be that both sides have so much If it
was a couple, you'd think forget it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You just there's just there's just too much past.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You too have done too many things to each other,
going back too long. You both are hung up on
the things you did to each other so much. There's
just no hope. It's just so let's just go sep ways.
But that's the opposite what everybody is trying to do.
They're trying to, uh, you know, have a two state solution,
which would basically be a marriage forever of a different kind.
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But they on both sides there's just so much history
of not following through or saying one thing and doing
another thing, or even aside from that, on both sides
they're crazies that they didn't want to do crazy things,
did crazy things, and then they get the blame for it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That does happened on both sides a lot right failure
to rain in your radical wing. Yeah, I can picture
what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then that, and then always you know, the question
of could you have rained in your radicals or were
you perfectly cool with your radicals doing what they did.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I hate violence of all sorts, including armed state violence.
Sometimes it's unavoidable, unavoidable, and you just have to be
an adult and accept it. But what you've just described
has ended one way through all of human history, either
victory by one side or an uneasy standoff. Because victory
could not be achieved by either side, nobody has forced
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them into what I would call the two bedroom solution.
Getting back to the fractured marriage we were just describing. No,
it's got to end one way or the other. Two
quick things I'd mentioned though.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's interesting, how because a lot of these documentaries are
fairly recent and it's getting to talk to the participants
decades later when they can finally reveal blah blah blah blah.
It's amazing how much it comes down to just personality.
You got two people in the room and it's just
their personalities. The larger issues, you know, have to give
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way to just your personality. Are you a hothead or
a grudge holder or a whatever. I mean, it just
comes down to personalities, which is interesting a lot of times.
And also bb net Nyaho playing a major role so
many decades ago, and still the guy is just can
we get new people all around the world.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We need younger people. Everybody's too old. Everybody's been doing
this for too long.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You should watch about something from forty years ago, and
it's the same people.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So I was going to tease teasingly the most important
story of the day, and I was going to just
as an aside, poo pooh. Anything Jack brought up is
far less important than the giant. Sorry that I have
that story, I will give it away right now. Is
that it is believed that the world birth rate is
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now below replacement. Right wow, for the first time in
human history, barring the occasional ancient cataclysm, the population is
going to drop and drop steeply, which is just it
boggles the mind. That is the biggest story.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Elon Musk, that's Elon Musk says the biggest threat to
humankind is that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, he's probably right. It's one of those things though
it feels to me almost natural in a way. But anyway,
probably we can analyze that and speculating the rest of it.
And I don't even have a hair brain theory of
why this would be true, Jack, But I feel like
that may be tied in some weird way to the
fact that so many of the leaders of the civilized
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world are incredibly old. Right. It feels like it's of
a piece with the birth rate thing. But I can't
even imagine why. Let's start the exceptions Macrohn and what's
his name, the Wilosey boy in Canada. True, though, Let's
start the show officially before we get in trouble with
the FCC. I'm Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He's Joe Getty on this It is already Monday, May
the thirteenth, the year twenty twenty four. We are Armstrong
in Getty, and we approve of this program.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Let's begin, then, officially according to FCC rules and regulations,
leaping into action at mark silence of the lamb?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Has anyone ever seen the silence of the lamps? The
late Great Hannibal Lecter, He's a wonderful man. He oftentimes
would have a friend for dinner. Remember the last say,
excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Is this poor doctor. I'm about to have a friend
for dinner.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But Hannibal elector congratulations the late great.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Hanniballector what.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Part of the Trump rally from Saturday night? He was
at his very top of his game of just being
kind of free wheeling and then having a good time
calling people names. Crowd went wild by many estimates of
one hundred thousand people. There a hundred thousand, that's a
big Where was the ally.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
New Jersey, New York kind of borders area, but huge crowd,
So more on that later. How does mailbag look? Oh,
it's very good. Full of concern for you Jack and
your motorcycle ride. All right, So we got lots on
the way, catch you up over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
My our text line, if you want to comment on
anything already is four one five two nine five kftc.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Armstrong. Hey, I just watching at some highlights from the
Trump rally on Saturday night. Because it was New Jersey,
he had.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To mention the former governor, former Governor Chris Christy, who
I will not call a fat pig. You're not supposed
to call people fat pigs anymore. I was told, So fat,
I guess is a bad word. So I won't call
him a fat pig. And of course the crowd's howling
with cheering in that laughter and everything like it, And
oh my god, I just can't believe the moment we're
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in where that is a thing. Yeah, that was a
remarkably unjudgmental way to put that. Jack markedly threaded the
needle there, didn't He folks tiptoed along as the sideline.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Didn't He friends seem to say something but said nothing.
Am I wrong? I'm not wrong. Here's your freedom loving
quote of the day from the fabulous Samuel Adams, Brewer
and significantly patron. To have a villainous ruler imposed upon
you is a misfortune. To elect him yourself is a disgrace.
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Woo oooh Sami boy, not one fremencing words mail bag,
Tucking that away in my collection of postly the day,
A Travis note mail bag at Armstrong. You get it,
dot Colm, anytime you want, keep it short, ish if
you can. Number of people weighing in on jackson motorcycle
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wreck and whether you should ride or not, I have
chosen one representative from each side. I just would love
to hear their opinions. There is if you're a new
listener of the show. There is nothing Jack loves better
than unsolicited advice. He thrives on it well, especially when
it's like, give you got some new angle I haven't considered.
Dale in Rockland, California writes your valuable part of your listeners' lives.
(12:54):
We were scared when you had cancer, but you were
recovered from that yesterday. God saved your life. Don't ride
on the street anymore, etc. Give up the bikes, live
along life, watch your boys get married, and be a grandpa.
The lovely vision that's been listening since nineteen ninety nine.
Thank you, Daley. That's right around when my youngest was born.
Then there's this from Raleigh. Rather end up as a
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hood ornament on a mac truck than choke on a
piece of cheese, Not that we can choose, but the
end comes from us all be ready. That would not
be a good way to go, choking on a piece
of cheese, nor any other dairy product. There was an
article in the New York Times about Mama Cass. Now
this is a throwback, and you gotta be old, but
she was a famous singer who was heavy and at
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the time you could call people a fat pig, and
she was regularly the butt of jokes for being an
overweight pop singer. Regularly, like she would go on variety
shows and they'd make jokes all about how fat she was,
and she would play it, would laugh and play along
exactly because it was killing her.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
That was the culture, which is horrible. That's not good.
I don't want that to come back. But uh, for
decades people have gone with the rumor that she choked
on a hand sandwich was how she died, and that's
not true. And so this article in the New York
Times was all about trying to fix that perception that
a fat person died eating a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Ah, okay, I know everybody needs a cause straightened out
out the whole Mama cast thing is there is currently
And finally, this comment on your motorcycle wreck, Jack, Jack,
I hope you're ruber driver is not a serial killer
because now he has your blood to leave at the
crime scene. Oh, that's a good one. That's right, because
I left there amount of blood in his car. That's right.
We have one more, it's ben. How's the general? Jack?
(14:38):
Did the general take a blow? Wow? The general reference
to your genitals?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
The General and he's really more of a private first
class at best. But uh no, that's a that's a
that's a that's a good point completely. Guy was horrible,
horrible pain over the weekend. Just horrible pain over the weekend.
Just oh my god. Yeah, it's funny, shoulder both My
whole body hurts. Rolling down the freeway is not the
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not the thing you want.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
To do, man of your years. No, indeed, total changing topic.
Love this. I explained the pay gap. This is from Lance.
My teenage daughter mentioned USA soccer and equal pay, and
I finally found a super way to help her get it,
super simple way after she explained how men and women
should be this paid the same for quote unquote playing soccer.
(15:24):
She likes Harry Potter. I said, it's also not fair
that JK. Rowling makes more money than I do. We
both type on keyboards for a living, yet she gets
paid so much more for it. She says, yeah, but
you type marketing brochures. She types great books, I said,
meaning that the matriarchy and our misanthropic society arbitrarily values
her work more than mine, just because she's a woman, Right,
She said, no, Dad, it's not that you both type
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It's just that a lot more people enjoy what she types.
That's why she makes so much more than you for typing.
People enjoy it more, so they pay more.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Oh you, you stiffed into a trap, young person, the
truth trap.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You have been ensnared young and then she got it. Yea.
I think of that, and then, speaking of economics, drew
the millennial rights morning dudes and Katie Jack always asks,
inflation is terrible. People are struggling. So why are restaurants
and expensive tourist destinations still packed with people? I have
a theory. I was at a tripa a baseball game
the other day, and while in lying to grab a
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tall boy, the middle aged couple in front of me
decided to buy two five dollars bottles of water, just
so they could have one for later. This park has
like forty drinking fights. You can even bring in an
empty bottle and the snack bars will fill them for
you with cold water for free. It's water, It's friggin free.
I don't I don't think we're any wealthier. We're just
dumber and more dependent and helpless and accustomed to a
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certain unsustainable sort of lifestyle. People can no longer think independently.
We're not rich, we're just dumb. Well, I don't know
about dumb, but that that accustomed to a certain lifestyle,
eating out, certain kind of hotels, lots of trips, bottled
water when you could have free We are just all
accustomed to a lifestyle that we will be forced back
into living like my parents live, whether we like it
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or not. At some point is what will happen.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Where my mom would wash straws from the fast food
joints so we could.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Use the straws for interest for instance. Yes, I think
it's just a question of when unless we continue to
import millions of people from south of the border, and
then it will become a completely different country.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Anyway, new polling out. We could touch on a variety
of things. Hope you can stay with it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Before her testimony, Stormy Daniels agreed not to describe Trump's
genitalia in court after she was offered hush money by
the jury. Yes, that because that might have happened. Thank
god it didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They trial picking back up today with Cohen as the
star witness, and he's really the key to the whole trial.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And we'll see how that.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Goes okay, Yeah, I have an idea how it's going
to go, and I'm looking forward to it, frankly, although
it would probably be fairly dry until the cross examination begins.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
As you indicated earlier, the Sunday talk shows were heavy, heavy,
heavy on Biden cutting off those bombs to Israel, and
we'll talk more about that later. Also, none of it matters, Jack,
None of it matters unless you're caught up in it,
I suppose. But this headline shocked me. Suddenly there aren't
enough babies. The whole world is alarmed. The Wall Street
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Journal reporting today birth rates are falling fast across countries,
with the economic, social, and geopolitical consequences, which we can
get into in a minute, but the numbers themselves are shocking.
The world is at a startling demographic milestone. Sometime soon
or already, the global fertility rate will drop below the
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point needed to keep population constant. Fertility is falling almost
everywhere from women across all levels of income, education, and
labor force participation, and they mentioned it'll have huge implications
for the way people live, how economies grow or don't,
in the standings of the world superpowers. But I need
to know, the culturally, like, are these first world countries
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across all incomes? Because you know, you can be poor
in a lot of your first world countries like ours,
you're still rich by world standards, or certainly pretty well
off by world standards. My theory will repeat. Okay, it's
falling almost everywhere, even third world countries in some of them. Yeah,
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I return to my incredibly vague theory, so vague I
get no credit for it that like a so vague
nobody caught it. Well, yeah, I mean it's hardly a
theory at all. It's it's it's anyway in the same
way that if deer become too populous, they will die
off from disease or whatever. You I know, coyotes are
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extremely Craig the healthcare Grous send us a fascinating article
a few years ago about coyote populations and how if
you try to stamp them out, they will increase their
birth rate to the replacement point. I mean in a
way that's it's almost as if they have the Internet,
they're sending out a newsletter every week or something like.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That was what I was up against trying to get
rid of the wasps at my house with everybody telling
me that if you kill them, they send out a
center a signal or a bat signal or whatever, and
they just reproduce like crazy to catch up.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So well, then how do you get rid of them?
So that's one of the reasons it's very difficult to
get rid of him, right. But so, my incredibly vague
theory is that humankind has some sort of inborn unconscious
instinct for that's enough of us, And apparently a little
over eight billion was enough. I don't know, but here
are the stats. So the UN's estimate of live births
per women per woman back in nineteen fifty was four
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point eighty six. It actually rows higher than that in
like sixty two, sixty three to what looks to be
about five live births per woman woow five. It's now
down to two point three. That's Globally, demographics are supposed
to be a slow moving force, but the baby bust
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is happening so quickly and so widely that it's taken
many by surprise. Some estimates now put the number of
babies each woman has below the global replacement rate of
about two point two. The US long ago past that level.
South Korea's rate is the world's lowest was once unimaginable.
So again, two point one five is the actual replacement rate.
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It's a little lower in the developed world because we
have better care for mothers and infants, and infant mortality
is very low. But the US rate is one point
six one point six to two one point six two.
That's more than that's half a kid, less than it
needs to be. And so go out and have half
a kid if you can. H South Koreas, I wonder
if it'd be easier or harder to raise I don't know.
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South Korea's birth rate is zero point seven to two
kids per woman, and the kids that do exist kill
themselves with trying to be straight A students.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So you can make lots of money because that's the
only thing that matters in life, and then nobody has babies.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, yeah, what is interesting culturally? Here are a couple
more of examples for you, A couple more examples. I
should say high income nations fertility fell below replacements in
the nineteen seventies, took a leg down during the pandemic.
It's dropping in developing countries too. India, as you may know,
surpassed China's the most populous country last year. Its fertility
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rate is now below replacement. My entire life is India
has been exploding with population. They're now below replacement rate. Oh,
I'd meant to have you get the Game of Thrones
clip for me, Michael says, an economist specializing in demographics
at the University of Pennsylvania. When the leading guys in
the field quote the demographic winter is coming, Well, it's so.
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I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'm definitely not sure of but why it is. I've
been solid on why it's not for a long time,
and I'm more sure of it now than I've ever been.
It's not because with rent so high and this, so
this and this so that kids are, people are choosing
not to have babies. I've been warming. I've never believed
it's a choice. It's people aren't choosing not to have kids.
(23:09):
It's uh, well you kind of are, but your your
genetics are screaming out to you that it's not a priority,
and that's not a decision.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's not so.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I've never believed it's economic factors or that sort of
thing that you're consciously deciding. It's something, is something and
that we can discuss.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because I'm not sure about, but.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Something in the culture, surroundings, population and whatever is making
ourselves not scream out to reproduce like they always have.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah. I'm not an expert in genie technology, but when
you get the chance to ask for three wishes, I
wonder if you could have three questions answered. Our genies
omniscient or just magical. I don't know. One of the
questions I'd like to have answered is, Hey, genie, why
are sperm counts and testosterone levels so low among young
men these days compare to just thirty forty years ago,
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which in evolutionary time is it is no time, it's
the same time. It's the precise same moment as it
was forty years ago evolutionarily speaking. That's an interesting point.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't think the dropping sperm count has anything to
do with the fewer kids, because I don't know. That's
not a giant story all around the world that people
are trying like crazy to have babies and they can.
You still gotta have sperm, But it is damn interesting
that they're happening at the same time, and I'm sure
not coincidental.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I wonder the testosterone would affect it. I mean, yeah,
your desire to couple and reproduce. But a little more
fact matter here. Many government leaders see this as a
matter of national urgency. They worry about shrinking workforces, slowing
economic growth, underfunded pensions absolutely, and the vitality of a
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society with ever fewer children. Smaller populations come with diminished
global clout, raising questions in the US, China, and Russia
about their long term standing.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So that gets to my next point on this is
do you get upset about this?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't at all, because everybody alive will be gone
when it is like really a problem, and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I suppose you could say that about a lot of
issues that I do care about.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The national debt.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'll be gone before that bomb really hits and and
makes usay miserable. But I do care about that because
my kids will be around.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But the this is by definition not going to affect
the unpeople that weren't ever born. I mean, if you're
if you're not born, you're not gonna know. So I
don't know. I don't. I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Elon worries about it a lot because he carries about
the species so much.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I just don't worry. I think it's interesting, but I
don't worry about it. Uh yeah, I worry about my
kids and the lives they're going to have in the
country they inhabit, because I think there are some serious,
serious challenges coming. And uh this is the age of hyperbole,
so like disastrous, really change your life challenges.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't think you can. I don't think you can
have hyperbole on this topic. Now, the facts are hyperbole.
I mean, they're just so amazing that this is happening.
You could make any statement and it's not hyperbolic. It
fits in with the facts.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, here's the challenge in the next thirty years or so,
all of government especially, well, let's just go with our country.
Virtually everything we do in the way we do it
is predicated on economic growth and population growth, including the
giant social programs. And if there is no longer that
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population growth, you have a couple of choices. Fundamentally change
everything about the way the government functions and finances itself
and pays for ulsters and medical care and the rest
of it. Or import a bunch of young people from
south of the border, and I guarantee you they're aware
of the demographic challenges in the United States at the
highest levels. Well, that is escape no one. Here's why
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I'm not going to think about it.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I think the the fact that human beings have stopped
reproducing makes climate change seem like tax rates in terms
of something you can affect. Tax rates are one hundred
percent something we can affect and vote. On climate change,
maybe you can nibble around the edges, but I don't
think a lot right people reproducing, You got no hope
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of having an effect on that whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Zero oh in A number of government programs have been tried.
They mentioned that collapsing fertility is a bigger threat to
Western civilization than Russia. According to Donald Trump, He's right.
A year ago, Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida declared that
the collapse of the country's birthrate left it quote standing
on the verge of whether we can continue to function
as a society. They mentioned South Korea again and various
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government programs that have been tried. You know, I might
conceivably be able to get a lonely South Korean woman
to have a child with me, although I have been nutered,
but affecting the birth rate, no governments have tried this
stuff over and over again, tax instead of strands.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So whatever, I don't want that to work. Do not
have a kid because you got some sort of tax credit.
That is not a good reason. You were steadfast against
having a child, but you're going to for a certain
amount of money in a tax credit. No, that is
not the way the parenting thing works. So for whatever reason,
God's plan or something, we've just decided that's enough of us.
Let's get let's let the bees run the world.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So in twenty years, forty years, I'm sorry, between nineteen
eighty and twenty twenty, just a few your stats. Then
I'll let this go. Because Jack has hurtfully pointed out
it doesn't matter. Really, I go in to a great
tit matter, prepare this this segment that Jack is hurtfully
again said.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, it matters more than anything on earth. I just
think there's a zero ability to change it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Birth rate in Mexico has gone from four point eight
to one point nine in forty years. India from the
same number four point eight down to two flat, a
lower re placement. See, I've always I've always assumed it
had something to do with our first world comfort, lack
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of threat. Got enough food.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Nobody's gonna kill me, plenty of entertainment, I thought.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I've always thought that was it right and instinctive. Well,
it's like back when infant mortality was much higher in
the say, in the seventeen to eighteenth centuries in the
United States, people had far more children because they knew
they would lose several of them, and it was necessary
to the functioning of a family in economic production to
have children. In other words, if you don't want to
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starve to debts, you need to have children. That's pretty
good incentive. But just real quickly, because I want to
point out the trend. China's gone from three to one
looks like just over one point oh five something like that.
South Korea from two point eight to point seven. As
we were saying, Hungary is dropped, not as much, but
it's well below replacement rate. Japan likely less of a drop,
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but from one point eight to one point three. I mean,
it's just it's crazy, it really is.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And it started before the smartphone and staring at our
phones and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It started going on restriction definitely. I'm sure the smartphone
and all that sort of stuff hurried it along, certainly,
wasn't going to arrest that momentum. Wow, that is something.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So all this making music, literature, crafting political systems that
can or can't work, all this sort of stuff won't
matter because there won't be any people left.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And what's really interesting, and this is discernible I think
from just social trends and then it we'll take a break,
but the birth rate has declined most steeply in the
US among prime birthing ages twenty to thirty.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, and the sort of people who would discuss this
at length are the sort of people that have, on average.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Between zero and one kid. A bunch of PhDs sitting
on a stage in some forum discussing this childless of course, right, Yeah, Well,
the future lives before us, friends, It's gonna be different
than than the years we've enjoyed in recently, the recent past.
Would I do wish I could be around to see
what it will be like on planet Earth when the
population is two billion instead of eight whole bunch of
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empty countries. Weird.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Uh, We've got Katie's headlines on the way and lots
to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Here's something.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So Trump had a big rally New Jersey over the
weekend on Saturday night, close to one hundred thousand people there, biggest,
one of the biggest, maybe the biggest political rally of
all time and in the United States, And I watched
some of it. Is incredibly enter in, very trumpy. But
Hanson's trying to grab clips from it. But he has to,
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you did, I've got to bleep this one. I gotta
bleep that one. I gotta bleep them. It's got so
many S bombs or BS bombs in it at from
the guy who's currently most likely to get elected president.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You can't just air it. And times have changed. Yeah,
one would argue that if that's the reality, we shouldn't
bother bleeping it. You know, I'm not excited about contributing
to the coarsening of anything, but if that's the reality,
that's a good point. Yeah, Yeah, that the tale is
editing the dog or something. Anyway, let's figure out who's
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reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green, Katie,
thank you, guys. From ABC News.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Star witness Michael Cohen expected to take the stand.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He's already there, he's already talking.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yep from CNN Israel says it is battling a moss
across Gaza, including in refugee camp in the north.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Boy, we got to get interest. The Washington Post had
a story over the weekend at we are withholding the
whereabouts of that hamas leader, the head guy, and trying
to use that as leverage. Now the administration denies it,
but the Washington Post had the story and says they
have sources.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So that'd be a heck of a thing, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So then after that kerfuffle during the day, then the
story came out last night that we do know where
the leader of PAMAS is and he ain't in Rafa,
He's somewhere else. Okay, well, is that true or are
you just trying to keep him from going into Rafa?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But more on that way from.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The Guardian, thousands of flights to and from Europe affected
by suspected Russian jamming.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Forty six thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Flights have had GPS issues over the Baltic Sea, and
they're thinking it's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Russia messing around, Oh boy, testing out their various systems
for the New York Post.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Illinois students hire bagpiper to follow around. High school principle
is a noisy senior prank.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh boy, That is noisy. Bagpipe should be annoying. Wow. Yeah,
I wonder how long he put up with that. This
is great, this is funny. Kids are enjoying it. I'll
just go ahead and let that bagpipeer full. Men, you'd
shoot him by the end of the day, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
From the Wall Street Journal, chicken wings are the new
inflation hedge. Huge spike in chicken wing purchases because of
how expensive beef is.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now Oh okay, I thought people were like banking them
for later investing in them. They don't do that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
From Fox News, White House should be concerned as Trump
rallies as many as one hundred thousand in deep blue
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Again, one of the biggest rallies, if not the biggest
political rally in US history.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I don't know. I saw Biden in front of a
crowd of about seventeen the other day and plotting like
crazy because they were told to.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And finally the Babylon Bee, Why but I get my
Mother's Day gift? She's not my mom, says dead man.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I don't know if I followed that. I didn't get
that at all. Katie A Small here's another one. The
Babylon be had, and I thought was good non menstruating partner,
which is menstruating partner, a happy birthing person's day. Nice.
Nobody uses that language except lunatics. Marxist lunatics don't adopt it,
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and it's a shrinking crowd.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I hope that, I hope that was a blip in
time when that was ever a thing at all.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Armstrong and geddy,
Now protest and live Jack Armstrong and show Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Key.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Armstrong and Jetty who from the studio scene see signor
it is a dimly lit room where teep with the powl.
So the Armstrong you Getty Communications Calmpound kick off a
brand new week of intermation. The man, there's a lot
(01:08):
in the uh uh. I don't know what would you
call it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We already got a lot locked into the ready to
shoot out the information into the atmosphere or something.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't know. I have to work on that. The
technology is still forming up and today we are under
the tutelage of our general manager. Witnesses what witnesses, I
don't know some of them, all of them. Okay, have
you been watching the news today? You've already seen the
(01:38):
news helicopters following the car. Michael Cohen is in from
wherever he was staying to the courthouse. He says, what rock?
He says, who says all the cable news shows? Okay,
that's right, that's right. He lives under a rock. That's hilarious.
He lives under a rock.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And they he crawled up from underneath his rock, got
into a limo and they took him to the courthouse.
So is that gonna be I don't I don't know
what's allowed and what's not. I barely understand these what
you can do and what you can't do, and I'm
always wrong. But can they can Well, first of all,
(02:15):
it'll be the prosecution talking to him for like a
day or two, they think, so the jazzy stuffs are
not probably gonna come in for a couple of days
in the cross examination. But during the cross examination, can
they bring up all of his prior convictions, all the
other times he's sat there in a courtroom and lied
to juries.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Can they talk about that? Absolutely? Yeah, it goes directly
to the witness's reliability.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, could you could you say, ladies and gentlemen
of the jury, this guy right here has sat in
a courtroom multiple times, looks just like this one in
front of people a lot like you, the judge sitting
there and lied. He's done it enough times, he's been
in jail, He's done it multiple times.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Can you say, let's say you would say that in
the closing arguments. But the beautiful part about the cross
examination is you make him say it. Have you been
convicted of perjury? Yes? How many times I don't remember,
is it three times? I think so? Yes, So you
sat in a courtroom like.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This with a jury looking at you, and you and
you lied while they were watching you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It was a different jury. He'll try to come off
as wise ass because he can't help himself, right, says
in himself, says Ma, says him.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And he doesn't seem to be that smart, which you
don't necessarily get a smart guy to do your dirty work,
or a lot of smart guys wouldn't do your dirty work.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Right exactly. Yeah, but yeah, and whatever credibility he has
in front of the jury for or I'm sorry, whatever
lack of credibility he has in front of the jury
for just good solid reasons of his record, he will
lose any credibility has just because he'll come off as
a pardon me, dick. And so, yeah, I think it's
(04:00):
it's going to be a a poop show on the
level of Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Or better, and well legally wise it's not Illegally it's
not gonna be near as jazzy, no doubt about that.
Not nearly as many references to underpants and sexual positions
exactly condom use.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, there won't be any testimony like the joke on
Saturday or Live was. By the end of it, the jury,
the jury made her sign a non disclosed agreement. They
didn't want to hear any more from her. It's a
funny joke. There's not gonna be any yeah, that stuff
from him. So in terms of the count into sexual positions,
that's like saying you got into ice cream flavors. What
do you have, vanilla? That's not a discussion of ice
(04:43):
cream flavors at all. That wasn't a discussion. I thought
we were going to talk about sexual positions, missionary, and
then we're done. I've been I've been cheated, gentlemen of
the jury, Women and gentlemen, where's the humble wheelbarrow? Come on?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Man I took in way too much news about the
Israeli conflict over the weekend. So you'll have to be
in charge of stopping me if I go too far,
because I just like I would, I did the deepest
of deep dodgs. Well, I'm injured from my motorcycle wreck,
so I can't do much. But man, I took in
a lot of Israel info, Like I watched two documentaries.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
About past peace processes.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh boy, like so I get three or four hours
of that in reading and listening to podcasts. I was
just gonna ask, if you were to briefly characterize your
major takeaway or takeaways from the weekend's inquiries, what would
it be that both sides have so much If it
was a couple, you'd think forget it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You just there's just there's just too much past.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You too have done too many things to each other,
going back too long. You both are hung up on
the things you did to each other so much. There's
just no hope. It's just so let's just go sep ways.
But that's the opposite what everybody is trying to do.
They're trying to, uh, you know, have a two state solution,
which would basically be a marriage forever of a different kind.
(06:09):
But they on both sides there's just so much history
of not following through or saying one thing and doing
another thing, or even aside from that, on both sides
they're crazies that they didn't want to do crazy things,
did crazy things, and then they get the blame for it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That does happened on both sides a lot right failure
to rain in your radical wing. Yeah, I can picture
what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then that, and then always you know, the question
of could you have rained in your radicals or were
you perfectly cool with your radicals doing what they did.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I hate violence of all sorts, including armed state violence.
Sometimes it's unavoidable, unavoidable, and you just have to be
an adult and accept it. But what you've just described
has ended one way through all of human history, either
victory by one side or an uneasy standoff. Because victory
could not be achieved by either side, nobody has forced
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them into what I would call the two bedroom solution.
Getting back to the fractured marriage we were just describing. No,
it's got to end one way or the other. Two
quick things I'd mentioned though.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's interesting, how because a lot of these documentaries are
fairly recent and it's getting to talk to the participants
decades later when they can finally reveal blah blah blah blah.
It's amazing how much it comes down to just personality.
You got two people in the room and it's just
their personalities. The larger issues, you know, have to give
(07:45):
way to just your personality. Are you a hothead or
a grudge holder or a whatever. I mean, it just
comes down to personalities, which is interesting a lot of times.
And also bb net Nyaho playing a major role so
many decades ago, and still the guy is just can
we get new people all around the world.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We need younger people. Everybody's too old. Everybody's been doing
this for too long.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You should watch about something from forty years ago, and
it's the same people.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So I was going to tease teasingly the most important
story of the day, and I was going to just
as an aside, poo pooh. Anything Jack brought up is
far less important than the giant. Sorry that I have
that story, I will give it away right now. Is
that it is believed that the world birth rate is
(08:34):
now below replacement. Right wow, for the first time in
human history, barring the occasional ancient cataclysm, the population is
going to drop and drop steeply, which is just it
boggles the mind. That is the biggest story.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Elon Musk, that's Elon Musk says the biggest threat to
humankind is that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, he's probably right. It's one of those things though
it feels to me almost natural in a way. But anyway,
probably we can analyze that and speculating the rest of it.
And I don't even have a hair brain theory of
why this would be true, Jack, But I feel like
that may be tied in some weird way to the
fact that so many of the leaders of the civilized
(09:17):
world are incredibly old. Right. It feels like it's of
a piece with the birth rate thing. But I can't
even imagine why. Let's start the exceptions Macrohn and what's
his name, the Wilosey boy in Canada. True, though, Let's
start the show officially before we get in trouble with
the FCC. I'm Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He's Joe Getty on this It is already Monday, May
the thirteenth, the year twenty twenty four. We are Armstrong
in Getty, and we approve of this program.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Let's begin, then, officially according to FCC rules and regulations,
leaping into action at mark silence of the lamb?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Has anyone ever seen the silence of the lamps? The
late Great Hannibal Lecter, He's a wonderful man. He oftentimes
would have a friend for dinner. Remember the last say,
excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Is this poor doctor. I'm about to have a friend
for dinner.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But Hannibal elector congratulations the late great.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Hanniballector what.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Part of the Trump rally from Saturday night? He was
at his very top of his game of just being
kind of free wheeling and then having a good time
calling people names. Crowd went wild by many estimates of
one hundred thousand people. There a hundred thousand, that's a
big Where was the ally.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
New Jersey, New York kind of borders area, but huge crowd,
So more on that later. How does mailbag look? Oh,
it's very good. Full of concern for you Jack and
your motorcycle ride. All right, So we got lots on
the way, catch you up over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
My our text line, if you want to comment on
anything already is four one five two nine five kftc.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Armstrong. Hey, I just watching at some highlights from the
Trump rally on Saturday night. Because it was New Jersey,
he had.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To mention the former governor, former Governor Chris Christy, who
I will not call a fat pig. You're not supposed
to call people fat pigs anymore. I was told, So fat,
I guess is a bad word. So I won't call
him a fat pig. And of course the crowd's howling
with cheering in that laughter and everything like it, And
oh my god, I just can't believe the moment we're
(11:31):
in where that is a thing. Yeah, that was a
remarkably unjudgmental way to put that. Jack markedly threaded the
needle there, didn't He folks tiptoed along as the sideline.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Didn't He friends seem to say something but said nothing.
Am I wrong? I'm not wrong. Here's your freedom loving
quote of the day from the fabulous Samuel Adams, Brewer
and significantly patron. To have a villainous ruler imposed upon
you is a misfortune. To elect him yourself is a disgrace.
(12:08):
Woo oooh Sami boy, not one fremencing words mail bag,
Tucking that away in my collection of postly the day,
A Travis note mail bag at Armstrong. You get it,
dot Colm, anytime you want, keep it short, ish if
you can. Number of people weighing in on jackson motorcycle
(12:31):
wreck and whether you should ride or not, I have
chosen one representative from each side. I just would love
to hear their opinions. There is if you're a new
listener of the show. There is nothing Jack loves better
than unsolicited advice. He thrives on it well, especially when
it's like, give you got some new angle I haven't considered.
Dale in Rockland, California writes your valuable part of your listeners' lives.
(12:54):
We were scared when you had cancer, but you were
recovered from that yesterday. God saved your life. Don't ride
on the street anymore, etc. Give up the bikes, live
along life, watch your boys get married, and be a grandpa.
The lovely vision that's been listening since nineteen ninety nine.
Thank you, Daley. That's right around when my youngest was born.
Then there's this from Raleigh. Rather end up as a
(13:18):
hood ornament on a mac truck than choke on a
piece of cheese, Not that we can choose, but the
end comes from us all be ready. That would not
be a good way to go, choking on a piece
of cheese, nor any other dairy product. There was an
article in the New York Times about Mama Cass. Now
this is a throwback, and you gotta be old, but
she was a famous singer who was heavy and at
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the time you could call people a fat pig, and
she was regularly the butt of jokes for being an
overweight pop singer. Regularly, like she would go on variety
shows and they'd make jokes all about how fat she was,
and she would play it, would laugh and play along
exactly because it was killing her.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
That was the culture, which is horrible. That's not good.
I don't want that to come back. But uh, for
decades people have gone with the rumor that she choked
on a hand sandwich was how she died, and that's
not true. And so this article in the New York
Times was all about trying to fix that perception that
a fat person died eating a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Ah, okay, I know everybody needs a cause straightened out
out the whole Mama cast thing is there is currently
And finally, this comment on your motorcycle wreck, Jack, Jack,
I hope you're ruber driver is not a serial killer
because now he has your blood to leave at the
crime scene. Oh, that's a good one. That's right, because
I left there amount of blood in his car. That's right.
We have one more, it's ben. How's the general? Jack?
(14:38):
Did the general take a blow? Wow? The general reference
to your genitals?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
The General and he's really more of a private first
class at best. But uh no, that's a that's a
that's a that's a good point completely. Guy was horrible,
horrible pain over the weekend. Just horrible pain over the weekend.
Just oh my god. Yeah, it's funny, shoulder both My
whole body hurts. Rolling down the freeway is not the
(15:02):
not the thing you want.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
To do, man of your years. No, indeed, total changing topic.
Love this. I explained the pay gap. This is from Lance.
My teenage daughter mentioned USA soccer and equal pay, and
I finally found a super way to help her get it,
super simple way after she explained how men and women
should be this paid the same for quote unquote playing soccer.
(15:24):
She likes Harry Potter. I said, it's also not fair
that JK. Rowling makes more money than I do. We
both type on keyboards for a living, yet she gets
paid so much more for it. She says, yeah, but
you type marketing brochures. She types great books, I said,
meaning that the matriarchy and our misanthropic society arbitrarily values
her work more than mine, just because she's a woman, Right,
She said, no, Dad, it's not that you both type
(15:45):
It's just that a lot more people enjoy what she types.
That's why she makes so much more than you for typing.
People enjoy it more, so they pay more.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Oh you, you stiffed into a trap, young person, the
truth trap.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You have been ensnared young and then she got it. Yea.
I think of that, and then, speaking of economics, drew
the millennial rights morning dudes and Katie Jack always asks,
inflation is terrible. People are struggling. So why are restaurants
and expensive tourist destinations still packed with people? I have
a theory. I was at a tripa a baseball game
the other day, and while in lying to grab a
(16:19):
tall boy, the middle aged couple in front of me
decided to buy two five dollars bottles of water, just
so they could have one for later. This park has
like forty drinking fights. You can even bring in an
empty bottle and the snack bars will fill them for
you with cold water for free. It's water, It's friggin free.
I don't I don't think we're any wealthier. We're just
dumber and more dependent and helpless and accustomed to a
(16:39):
certain unsustainable sort of lifestyle. People can no longer think independently.
We're not rich, we're just dumb. Well, I don't know
about dumb, but that that accustomed to a certain lifestyle,
eating out, certain kind of hotels, lots of trips, bottled
water when you could have free We are just all
accustomed to a lifestyle that we will be forced back
into living like my parents live, whether we like it
(17:01):
or not. At some point is what will happen.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Where my mom would wash straws from the fast food
joints so we could.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Use the straws for interest for instance. Yes, I think
it's just a question of when unless we continue to
import millions of people from south of the border, and
then it will become a completely different country.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Anyway, new polling out. We could touch on a variety
of things. Hope you can stay with it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Before her testimony, Stormy Daniels agreed not to describe Trump's
genitalia in court after she was offered hush money by
the jury. Yes, that because that might have happened. Thank
god it didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They trial picking back up today with Cohen as the
star witness, and he's really the key to the whole trial.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And we'll see how that.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Goes okay, Yeah, I have an idea how it's going
to go, and I'm looking forward to it, frankly, although
it would probably be fairly dry until the cross examination begins.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
As you indicated earlier, the Sunday talk shows were heavy, heavy,
heavy on Biden cutting off those bombs to Israel, and
we'll talk more about that later. Also, none of it matters, Jack,
None of it matters unless you're caught up in it,
I suppose. But this headline shocked me. Suddenly there aren't
enough babies. The whole world is alarmed. The Wall Street
(18:20):
Journal reporting today birth rates are falling fast across countries,
with the economic, social, and geopolitical consequences, which we can
get into in a minute, but the numbers themselves are shocking.
The world is at a startling demographic milestone. Sometime soon
or already, the global fertility rate will drop below the
(18:42):
point needed to keep population constant. Fertility is falling almost
everywhere from women across all levels of income, education, and
labor force participation, and they mentioned it'll have huge implications
for the way people live, how economies grow or don't,
in the standings of the world superpowers. But I need
to know, the culturally, like, are these first world countries
(19:04):
across all incomes? Because you know, you can be poor
in a lot of your first world countries like ours,
you're still rich by world standards, or certainly pretty well
off by world standards. My theory will repeat. Okay, it's
falling almost everywhere, even third world countries in some of them. Yeah,
(19:24):
I return to my incredibly vague theory, so vague I
get no credit for it that like a so vague
nobody caught it. Well, yeah, I mean it's hardly a
theory at all. It's it's it's anyway in the same
way that if deer become too populous, they will die
off from disease or whatever. You I know, coyotes are
(19:45):
extremely Craig the healthcare Grous send us a fascinating article
a few years ago about coyote populations and how if
you try to stamp them out, they will increase their
birth rate to the replacement point. I mean in a
way that's it's almost as if they have the Internet,
they're sending out a newsletter every week or something like.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That was what I was up against trying to get
rid of the wasps at my house with everybody telling
me that if you kill them, they send out a
center a signal or a bat signal or whatever, and
they just reproduce like crazy to catch up.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So well, then how do you get rid of them?
So that's one of the reasons it's very difficult to
get rid of him, right. But so, my incredibly vague
theory is that humankind has some sort of inborn unconscious
instinct for that's enough of us, And apparently a little
over eight billion was enough. I don't know, but here
are the stats. So the UN's estimate of live births
per women per woman back in nineteen fifty was four
(20:38):
point eighty six. It actually rows higher than that in
like sixty two, sixty three to what looks to be
about five live births per woman woow five. It's now
down to two point three. That's Globally, demographics are supposed
to be a slow moving force, but the baby bust
(20:59):
is happening so quickly and so widely that it's taken
many by surprise. Some estimates now put the number of
babies each woman has below the global replacement rate of
about two point two. The US long ago past that level.
South Korea's rate is the world's lowest was once unimaginable.
So again, two point one five is the actual replacement rate.
(21:21):
It's a little lower in the developed world because we
have better care for mothers and infants, and infant mortality
is very low. But the US rate is one point
six one point six to two one point six two.
That's more than that's half a kid, less than it
needs to be. And so go out and have half
a kid if you can. H South Koreas, I wonder
if it'd be easier or harder to raise I don't know.
(21:42):
South Korea's birth rate is zero point seven to two
kids per woman, and the kids that do exist kill
themselves with trying to be straight A students.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So you can make lots of money because that's the
only thing that matters in life, and then nobody has babies.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, yeah, what is interesting culturally? Here are a couple
more of examples for you, A couple more examples. I
should say high income nations fertility fell below replacements in
the nineteen seventies, took a leg down during the pandemic.
It's dropping in developing countries too. India, as you may know,
surpassed China's the most populous country last year. Its fertility
(22:19):
rate is now below replacement. My entire life is India
has been exploding with population. They're now below replacement rate. Oh,
I'd meant to have you get the Game of Thrones
clip for me, Michael says, an economist specializing in demographics
at the University of Pennsylvania. When the leading guys in
the field quote the demographic winter is coming, Well, it's so.
(22:44):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'm definitely not sure of but why it is. I've
been solid on why it's not for a long time,
and I'm more sure of it now than I've ever been.
It's not because with rent so high and this, so
this and this so that kids are, people are choosing
not to have babies. I've been warming. I've never believed
it's a choice. It's people aren't choosing not to have kids.
(23:09):
It's uh, well you kind of are, but your your
genetics are screaming out to you that it's not a priority,
and that's not a decision.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's not so.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I've never believed it's economic factors or that sort of
thing that you're consciously deciding. It's something, is something and
that we can discuss.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because I'm not sure about, but.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Something in the culture, surroundings, population and whatever is making
ourselves not scream out to reproduce like they always have.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah. I'm not an expert in genie technology, but when
you get the chance to ask for three wishes, I
wonder if you could have three questions answered. Our genies
omniscient or just magical. I don't know. One of the
questions I'd like to have answered is, Hey, genie, why
are sperm counts and testosterone levels so low among young
men these days compare to just thirty forty years ago,
(24:02):
which in evolutionary time is it is no time, it's
the same time. It's the precise same moment as it
was forty years ago evolutionarily speaking. That's an interesting point.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't think the dropping sperm count has anything to
do with the fewer kids, because I don't know. That's
not a giant story all around the world that people
are trying like crazy to have babies and they can.
You still gotta have sperm, But it is damn interesting
that they're happening at the same time, and I'm sure
not coincidental.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I wonder the testosterone would affect it. I mean, yeah,
your desire to couple and reproduce. But a little more
fact matter here. Many government leaders see this as a
matter of national urgency. They worry about shrinking workforces, slowing
economic growth, underfunded pensions absolutely, and the vitality of a
(24:49):
society with ever fewer children. Smaller populations come with diminished
global clout, raising questions in the US, China, and Russia
about their long term standing.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So that gets to my next point on this is
do you get upset about this?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't at all, because everybody alive will be gone
when it is like really a problem, and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I suppose you could say that about a lot of
issues that I do care about.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The national debt.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'll be gone before that bomb really hits and and
makes usay miserable. But I do care about that because
my kids will be around.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But the this is by definition not going to affect
the unpeople that weren't ever born. I mean, if you're
if you're not born, you're not gonna know. So I
don't know. I don't. I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Elon worries about it a lot because he carries about
the species so much.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I just don't worry. I think it's interesting, but I
don't worry about it. Uh yeah, I worry about my
kids and the lives they're going to have in the
country they inhabit, because I think there are some serious,
serious challenges coming. And uh this is the age of hyperbole,
so like disastrous, really change your life challenges.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't think you can. I don't think you can
have hyperbole on this topic. Now, the facts are hyperbole.
I mean, they're just so amazing that this is happening.
You could make any statement and it's not hyperbolic. It
fits in with the facts.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, here's the challenge in the next thirty years or so,
all of government especially, well, let's just go with our country.
Virtually everything we do in the way we do it
is predicated on economic growth and population growth, including the
giant social programs. And if there is no longer that
(26:35):
population growth, you have a couple of choices. Fundamentally change
everything about the way the government functions and finances itself
and pays for ulsters and medical care and the rest
of it. Or import a bunch of young people from
south of the border, and I guarantee you they're aware
of the demographic challenges in the United States at the
highest levels. Well, that is escape no one. Here's why
(26:57):
I'm not going to think about it.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I think the the fact that human beings have stopped
reproducing makes climate change seem like tax rates in terms
of something you can affect. Tax rates are one hundred
percent something we can affect and vote. On climate change,
maybe you can nibble around the edges, but I don't
think a lot right people reproducing, You got no hope
(27:21):
of having an effect on that whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Zero oh in A number of government programs have been tried.
They mentioned that collapsing fertility is a bigger threat to
Western civilization than Russia. According to Donald Trump, He's right.
A year ago, Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida declared that
the collapse of the country's birthrate left it quote standing
on the verge of whether we can continue to function
as a society. They mentioned South Korea again and various
(27:48):
government programs that have been tried. You know, I might
conceivably be able to get a lonely South Korean woman
to have a child with me, although I have been nutered,
but affecting the birth rate, no governments have tried this
stuff over and over again, tax instead of strands.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So whatever, I don't want that to work. Do not
have a kid because you got some sort of tax credit.
That is not a good reason. You were steadfast against
having a child, but you're going to for a certain
amount of money in a tax credit. No, that is
not the way the parenting thing works. So for whatever reason,
God's plan or something, we've just decided that's enough of us.
Let's get let's let the bees run the world.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So in twenty years, forty years, I'm sorry, between nineteen
eighty and twenty twenty, just a few your stats. Then
I'll let this go. Because Jack has hurtfully pointed out
it doesn't matter. Really, I go in to a great
tit matter, prepare this this segment that Jack is hurtfully
again said.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, it matters more than anything on earth. I just
think there's a zero ability to change it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Birth rate in Mexico has gone from four point eight
to one point nine in forty years. India from the
same number four point eight down to two flat, a
lower re placement. See, I've always I've always assumed it
had something to do with our first world comfort, lack
(29:15):
of threat. Got enough food.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Nobody's gonna kill me, plenty of entertainment, I thought.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I've always thought that was it right and instinctive. Well,
it's like back when infant mortality was much higher in
the say, in the seventeen to eighteenth centuries in the
United States, people had far more children because they knew
they would lose several of them, and it was necessary
to the functioning of a family in economic production to
have children. In other words, if you don't want to
(29:42):
starve to debts, you need to have children. That's pretty
good incentive. But just real quickly, because I want to
point out the trend. China's gone from three to one
looks like just over one point oh five something like that.
South Korea from two point eight to point seven. As
we were saying, Hungary is dropped, not as much, but
it's well below replacement rate. Japan likely less of a drop,
(30:04):
but from one point eight to one point three. I mean,
it's just it's crazy, it really is.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And it started before the smartphone and staring at our
phones and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It started going on restriction definitely. I'm sure the smartphone
and all that sort of stuff hurried it along, certainly,
wasn't going to arrest that momentum. Wow, that is something.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So all this making music, literature, crafting political systems that
can or can't work, all this sort of stuff won't
matter because there won't be any people left.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And what's really interesting, and this is discernible I think
from just social trends and then it we'll take a break,
but the birth rate has declined most steeply in the
US among prime birthing ages twenty to thirty.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, and the sort of people who would discuss this
at length are the sort of people that have, on average.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Between zero and one kid. A bunch of PhDs sitting
on a stage in some forum discussing this childless of course, right, Yeah, Well,
the future lives before us, friends, It's gonna be different
than than the years we've enjoyed in recently, the recent past.
Would I do wish I could be around to see
what it will be like on planet Earth when the
population is two billion instead of eight whole bunch of
(31:27):
empty countries. Weird.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Uh, We've got Katie's headlines on the way and lots
to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Here's something.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So Trump had a big rally New Jersey over the
weekend on Saturday night, close to one hundred thousand people there, biggest,
one of the biggest, maybe the biggest political rally of
all time and in the United States, And I watched
some of it. Is incredibly enter in, very trumpy. But
Hanson's trying to grab clips from it. But he has to,
(32:04):
you did, I've got to bleep this one. I gotta
bleep that one. I gotta bleep them. It's got so
many S bombs or BS bombs in it at from
the guy who's currently most likely to get elected president.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You can't just air it. And times have changed. Yeah,
one would argue that if that's the reality, we shouldn't
bother bleeping it. You know, I'm not excited about contributing
to the coarsening of anything, but if that's the reality,
that's a good point. Yeah, Yeah, that the tale is
editing the dog or something. Anyway, let's figure out who's
(32:37):
reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green, Katie,
thank you, guys. From ABC News.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Star witness Michael Cohen expected to take the stand.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He's already there, he's already talking.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yep from CNN Israel says it is battling a moss
across Gaza, including in refugee camp in the north.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Boy, we got to get interest. The Washington Post had
a story over the weekend at we are withholding the
whereabouts of that hamas leader, the head guy, and trying
to use that as leverage. Now the administration denies it,
but the Washington Post had the story and says they
have sources.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So that'd be a heck of a thing, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So then after that kerfuffle during the day, then the
story came out last night that we do know where
the leader of PAMAS is and he ain't in Rafa,
He's somewhere else. Okay, well, is that true or are
you just trying to keep him from going into Rafa?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But more on that way from.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The Guardian, thousands of flights to and from Europe affected
by suspected Russian jamming.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Forty six thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Flights have had GPS issues over the Baltic Sea, and
they're thinking it's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Russia messing around, Oh boy, testing out their various systems
for the New York Post.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Illinois students hire bagpiper to follow around. High school principle
is a noisy senior prank.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh boy, That is noisy. Bagpipe should be annoying. Wow. Yeah,
I wonder how long he put up with that. This
is great, this is funny. Kids are enjoying it. I'll
just go ahead and let that bagpipeer full. Men, you'd
shoot him by the end of the day, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
From the Wall Street Journal, chicken wings are the new
inflation hedge. Huge spike in chicken wing purchases because of
how expensive beef is.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now Oh okay, I thought people were like banking them
for later investing in them. They don't do that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
From Fox News, White House should be concerned as Trump
rallies as many as one hundred thousand in deep blue
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Again, one of the biggest rallies, if not the biggest
political rally in US history.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I don't know. I saw Biden in front of a
crowd of about seventeen the other day and plotting like
crazy because they were told to.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And finally the Babylon Bee, Why but I get my
Mother's Day gift? She's not my mom, says dead man.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I don't know if I followed that. I didn't get
that at all. Katie A Small here's another one. The
Babylon be had, and I thought was good non menstruating partner,
which is menstruating partner, a happy birthing person's day. Nice.
Nobody uses that language except lunatics. Marxist lunatics don't adopt it,
(35:27):
and it's a shrinking crowd.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I hope that, I hope that was a blip in
time when that was ever a thing at all.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
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