May 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- The tributes following the death of Iran's president...
- Jack's last day before his new goat eyes are installed...
- Joe's awesome tirade against our failing education system...
- Late Nite comics take-on the Trump Hush Money Trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Show, Yeah, it's graduation season right now. Everyone with an
English degree is like, well, now what tomorrow they'll be
on LinkedIn and my next week they'll be on OnlyFans.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's sad. It's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I like the everyone with an English degree and lots
of different degrees actually are saying and now what, Yeah,
that is a lot of the problem with the modern college,
and now.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What am I supposed to do well?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Particularly given the great inflation in the under teaching. I
feel for the kids. They didn't decide this is the
way the system want to work well and our culture
and having gone to a couple of orientations for junior
high and high school recently, they zen it as this
(01:01):
is what everybody does.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You go to.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
College and then that's and so you would just assume that, Okay,
this is what I see adults around me with jobs,
this is how the whole thing works.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Nobody informs you that, well, there's like ninety five percent
of the degrees were given out at a lot of
these fancy universities have no value in the real world
whatsoever in terms of making a living.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That should be pointed out more often.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Wow, okay't won't get off track on that important thing
with the Trump trial today. Trump showed up with his
entourage today, including Sebastian Gorka, who we've had on the
air many times.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It was kind of an interesting character.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And Joe Episcopo if you're old enough to remember him
from Saturday Night Live in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So all the stars have turned out?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Does something? Doesn't it all seem like flies circling? You
know what?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I hate this story. We've already complained about it once
to day. The outpouring of respect, love and admiration for
the president of Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What the F is this?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So this just came across the UN Headquarters in New
York City, the big UN building. If you've never walked
by it, it's worth the sea and in New York
it's pretty impressient. The UN Headquarters has just lowered its
flag to half masted and tribute after the death of
Racy the Foreign Minister and the Foreign Minister of Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What is that theory?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, they're the president, so you're going with some sort
of every elected president we treat with the same dignity
because we're a global body. How about correct if it's
a complete sham election, it still counts.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So they call him the president. But he wasn't elected
by the people, you know that, right, And he's an
awful human being. He's a murderer, he's a terrorist. They're
the world's leading sponsor of state terror. And that's the
guy who died in your going the flag for How
am I supposed to take the UN seriously? How does
anybody take the UN seriously? He was appointed to his
(03:07):
position by a monster that runs a seventh century death cult,
the Supreme Leader.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, it's disgusting. I like this. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
First the guard. First, the guards canceled family visits. Then
they confiscated the prisoners radios. Then came the tribunals. Within
weeks weeks, ten thousand Iranian dissidents were dead, many of
them young people. Sitting in judgment at some of these
hastily called death commissions was a deputy prosecutor named Abraham
(03:37):
ray Eci, a hardline cleric blah blah blah, who just
croaked it in the helicopter crash. This guy was one
of the leaders in Look, you got all these people
in their teens, their twenties, early thirties, they've spoken out
against the government. Why don't we just snuff them all
and start anew. So they ran these kangaroo courts and
just hanged and put to death ten thousand young people
(04:02):
who are convicted of opposing the government. This guy is
the worst sort of monster.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This moral relatism, relativism thing that goes on just is
so nuts. So you want to treat every president the same,
because if Joe Biden died, you'd want to have a
minute moment of silence at the UN.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And so we will do it for the president of Iran.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But as a governing body that looks at elections around
the world and decides which ones are free and fair
and which ones aren't, why wouldn't you have a standard
of if you're an actual elected president, Okay, we'll have
a minute of silence, But if you didn't have a
free and fair election, no, yeah, but they did anyway
to that, And our own American UN representatives stood with
(04:45):
head bowed in a minute of silence for this. The
Butcher of Tehran I appreciated that Mitch McConnell yesterday decided
to give a little speech Republican Senator, I too would
like to extend my condolences to the people of Iran
for their long suffering under brutal theocratic rule of the
Islamic Republic. I suspect a great many Iranians would rather
Western myers stop lionizing a man known as the Butcher
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of Tehran.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Let's go ahead and listen to clip seventy four. Then
we'll come back with more.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
The condolences are pouring in from Iran's allies around the
world today. The US State Department was questioned about the
death of Risi after Deputy US Ambassador to the United
Nations Robert Wood was part of a group to stand
and honor the late Iranian president.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Does the State Parment of view that as appropriate taking
part in that kind of observance.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let me say a few things.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
One, we have been quite clear that Abraham Racy was
a brutal participant in the repression of the Iranian people
for nearly four decades. That said, we regret any loss
of life. We don't want to see anyone die in
a helicopter crash.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
No, No, that's so week. I want to say, bulliss
so bad. I heard Scarborough say it on MSNBC today twice. Yeah,
and I heard Jake tappersade on CNN yesterday. We're getting close. Yes,
I think please can we allow to say that because.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That's bs free bs, because that's what that is. We
hate any loss of life in a helicopter. What no,
glad the guy's dead, like you said yesterday. I hope
he died painfully. I'm perfectly fine with our president saying
that out loud. So getting back to the summary execution
of five figures worth of young people in Iran, the
(06:27):
killings were so extreme that Komani this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is the Ayatola, the original guy.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
His deputy in preferred air, Grand Iatola josein what's his face, objected,
saying the victims had already been legally convicted and sentenced.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It made a mockery of the law.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
He argued to impose the death sentence on people who
were already serving their time and had committed no new crimes.
But Ray easy overcame that objection, got all those young
people executed. Called the killings quote one of the proud
achievements of Iran's government and more than three decades or
Ron is still not officially acknowledged the massacres and families
(07:03):
of those victims are forbidden to publicly mourn or commemorate
their deaths. This, this person is, This guy is polepot.
He's one of the murderous scumbags, subhuman dictators of history.
The idea that our guy, well, we we murn any
loss of life. So let's lower the flagged half mast
here at the UN.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
This is wow.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I think we are slow to awaken the United States.
We're always slow to awaken, look at history, but we've
been slow to awaken to the new realities of the
multi polar world. We are no longer the one superpower.
When you're the one superpower, you can be. You could
be the mellow uncle everybody loves.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Don't have to crack down much because nobody's where is
anybody gonna turn right? You don't have to be a
tough guy. You're the only show in town. The world
has changed. Man. We better get you know, leaning forward
slightly at the waste on the balls of our feet,
but quick or we are going to get bulldozed.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's a decent point, and where there are other options
like China, which is siding with Russia and ouran it
is worth making the argument, No, there are good guys
and bad guys, and they're the bad guys. And for
our government to you know, we mourn the loss of anyone, well,
we'll lower the flag to have staff for anyone because
the trey elected president.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, they're a horrible regime, they're awful human beings, they're evil,
and we don't need to.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Mourn their deaths. That's nuts.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
These international bodies, the one that the ICC that put
out the arrest warrant for both Net and Yahoo, and
the leaders of OMAMAS. I thought, there's the global version
of restorative justice that they do in our grade schools.
It's exactly the same thing, and it's gonna work as well.
A bunch of bureaucrats who make big money at their
(08:59):
cock tail parties, eating their cheese and their shrimp in
New York City shrimp a bunch yeah, shrimp and cheese eaters.
But they never accomplish anything. They couldn't possibly accomplish anything.
They just go through these aggrandized motions of international diplomacy.
It's a complete waste of time and money, and it's
(09:19):
disgusting and it makes me mad that there are so
many people that because I know people, so I'm picturing
certain faces that believe in the UN and these international
bodies being above it all and a better version of humanity.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And you're so so wrong. You're gonna get people killed
with that view. It just drives me nuts.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, it's so naive.
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Speaker 1 (11:04):
One more word on this.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I saw this retweeted by Stephen Hayes of The Dispatch yesterday.
It's frustrating to watch so many brave Iranians risking their
lives to signal how they felt about the butcher of
Tehan Yep. There were a lot of young Iranians on
the street yesterday risking their lives literally, only to have
so many in the West who can tell the truth
without consequences instead choose to pretend that this was someone
(11:28):
worth morning. I can't even get in the head of
you people, I really can't. I can't figure out. I
don't even know how you look at the world, how
your brain works.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It makes no sense to me. Yeah, no kidding, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
One other things I wanted to mention before we go
to break came across this yesterday. It's a guy who
runs Microsoft something or other right now. The new Windows
PCs if you're a Windows person. I'm an Apple person,
but if you're a Windows person, will have a photographic
memory feature called Recall that will remember and understand everything
(12:07):
you do on your computer by taking constant screenshots.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Is this something people wanted? Everything you do on your
computer ever, will be stored somewhere because it takes constant screenshots.
Andy presented that like, yay a, how do I flip
that off? Not that I'm doing anything, but no, beware
(12:35):
of the well, I'm not doing anything bad. So I
think government surveillance is fine. Why would anybody want that.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's got to be to grab data, right, I mean,
why do they want to put it in there? It's
got to be something to their benefit because consumers don't
want it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why would any consumer want that?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Well, every data grab is portrayed as something that you
would want. I mean, they'll say, you ever we get
the name of that tab that you accidentally closed, all
you have to do is rewind five minutes and people say.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh, that would be great. All right?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Then Mark Zuckerberg is up in your underwear drawer. You
your proverbial? What do you not wash your underwear? My
underwear drawer?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You could?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You could do surgery in there, it's so clean. Hey,
I'm tired of wearing glasses and I don't think I'm
gonna wear them anymore. I don' think I'm gonna have
to wear them anymore after one thirty this afternoon. Uh,
because I'm getting new lenses put in my eyes. I
didn't even know this was a thing until like a
month ago.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Did you know this?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I didn't know this for some reason. I want to
talk about that at some point. And we've got a
lot of stuff to get to today.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I hope you can stay here strong.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
After Kevin Costner overwhelmed by a seven minute standing ovation
for his new movie, premiering at the can Film Festival,
It's been on and on. Custner wiping away tears as
children there the new movie The Horizon and American Saga.
Costumer producing, directing, co writing, starring, to mortgage his own
ranch to make it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Kevin Costner like really put his financial life on the
line to get this dream of his life motion picture made.
It's actually a series of films about the West and
the settling of the West from the standpoint of the
cowboys and the Indians and everybody and that sort of stuff.
Seven minutes standing ovation at Con. But the reviews have
(14:28):
been pretty tepid. I guess so I have no idea
if it'll be.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Good or not.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'd love it's crap, it's crap, It's not doubt, it's
I usually like Kevin Costner vehicles. Oh yeah, yeah, he's
a he's a great filmmaker. I'm curious what drove him.
I haven't really seen the interviews or what have you
or read about it. Why would he take on so
much risk at this point in his life.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I want to mention this just because I think it's
kind of interesting. I didn't know this was an option
until a couple of months ago. The idea of getting
new lenses in your eyeball. I didn't know that was
a thing for some reason. And I'm getting it done today.
And I'm I'm a reading glasses guy past the age
of forty.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you're not there yet, you will need reading glasses.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And I've got like five thousand pairs of them all
over my house and cars and everything like that, because
I'm practically helpless if I ever have to read anything
and I don't have reading glasses handy. So I'm getting
my lenses and my eyes replaced. I don't know how
they yank them out and put new ones in. I
don't want to know, actually, because it would.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Hit me out.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's that's good. Yeah, that's smart. I don't worry about it.
It's not get lost.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
In the details.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I will mention that I'm going to the Laser Eye
Center of Silicon Valley in northern California. This is not
an ad I'm doing right here, although I do endorse
them and have had a great experience. But I'm getting
it done, and I just I think in theory, you
get new lenses and then your eyes are going to
be perfect forever. They're not. You're like your human body.
Eyes are made out of plastic or whatever they're made
(15:57):
out of. And since I started looking into it, I'm
running to several people that have got it done. So
I suppose this will be incredibly common in the future. Right,
if you can just get new lenses and now, all
of a sudden you can see.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So it joins a growing list of human body parts
that can be replaced by mechanical substitutes heart valves, for instance.
I mean, a lens is not that complex a system.
I'm sure the cornea can do things that I don't
know about that are cool. But yeah, the idea of
I need to focus some beams on this surface, which
is your retina, that's not that incredibly complicated. Also found out,
(16:39):
and I didn't know this, I'm not actually color blind.
Probably it's just my lens are so dirty, they're so
clogged up that everything is kind of blurred together as
grays and browns. And after I get these new lenses today,
they said, the first thing I'll notice is being able
to see color again. So that wow, So your eyes
are pretty messed up, then, I guess I didn't even know. Yeah,
(17:01):
I don't ever wear sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I never have really, and it's because I don't get
much light coming into my eyes, and so I just
don't need sunglasses, and I guess I will need them
after this afternoon when I get new lenses.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Wow. Wow, I don't like to.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Think about it though. I don't want to think about
what they're going to do. Do they come up through you?
How do they get in through your areas? How do
they get your.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Lenses out of there? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
They run a snake up through There's a vein in
your foot, and they run it all the way up
to the three your genitals and then right through your
guts and then right through the middle of your heart. No,
it's you know you've had lazy. I mean it's the
technology is amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
How long it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Takes to get your lenses yanked out and new ones
in ten minutes?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I almost thought, could you take it? Could it make
take it longer? It feels seems like it should take longer.
I feel like you're rushing it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
How long before all of us are walking around with
a mechanical heart velve and a pig's kidney and the
job of them an asked to cite the Good Book
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't know. Right as soon as your joints start
to hurt it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Whatever age, you get new joints, new eyes, new hearts,
everything like that. Yeah, I think that is the direction
we're going.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, I've got a couple of those fake joints and
they're working out great, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Gorilla thumbs. Who knows.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
There's no look, So the police are definitely after me,
which is why it's very risky for me to be
doing this interview.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's a police officer right there.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
If that police officer just turns his head and looks
at me, I'm I'm in jail. So it's like, I
don't know, I got a But with great risk comes
great rewards. It was very scary. I was looking down
because like when you get scared, you start to shake,
and then when you shake, the line shakes, then you
fall off, and then I didn't want to fall, so.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You have to calm your mind. So what was that, Michael?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I set up a tight rope between two buildings and
walked it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I like his brilliant and insightful explanation of why walking
a tight rote between two buildings is difficult. If you
get nervous, you'll start to shake, and if you shake,
you might fall off. Yeah, Yeah, that's what we all
kind of assume.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, he's an expert in the field. Who are you
to question him?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
With great reward comes great risk or something? He said, whatever,
All right, what.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Reward are we talking about there? Skippy?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Wow, guys who are driven to that? We were talking
earlier about how you only spend time in your own head.
You don't know how other people perceive the world, how
they perceive pain, joy, you know, even sound and light.
I cannot imagine what it's like inside the head of
a guy who's like I could play golf with my
buddies today, or I could set up a wire between
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two skyscrapers in LA and walk between them without a net.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna do the whole skyscraper thing.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Some people, clearly, usually men need a certain amount of
adrenaline to be happy. Maybe that's what I get from
riding a motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But and some people don't need any But that guy
needs a lot more than me, because I do not
need to walk a tight rope between two buildings.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, Katie, this is.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
This is just a prime example as to why women
live longer.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You guys do stuff like this. Oh, there's actually there's
a great deal of truth to that. Yeah. Yeah, especially
prior to the age of like fifty.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, but maybe throughout history when life was way more dangerous,
he needed that guy. People who need that level of
adrenaline to, you know, go over the hill and scout
that village on the other side and see how scary
they are, or go see if you can get through
that cave with the giant bear.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
But those things aren't happening now, so when all of
you guys just call down and live a little longer.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
But evolutionary wise, there are still people who desire that
level of excitement.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I guess if he had never tried the cave bear challenge, Katie,
you don't know what you're missing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh, well, you know, I choose the bear, so we'll
go there. It is.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It is kind of interesting, though, because they're different levels
of it. Because a lot of people can't understand why
anybody would ride a motorcycle. I can't understand why that
guy would walk a tightrope between two buildings. I have
a friend who's a base jumper. I can't understand why
he wants to do that on a regular basis.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You have a certain and me I consider going for
a par five and two a little nerve racking.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So yes, different sorts.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Speaking of Katie Green, who just joined us briefly, we
are looking forward to chatting with her dad, who is
a retired but extremely respected and experienced judge and he's
adjudicated many many trials through his career in including many
murder trials.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
He's a serious man of law.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
To talk about some of the fireworks at the Trump
trial in Manhattan yesterday, it was a hell of day.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And how lucky we are to have an experienced trial
judge to talk to. So looking forward to that. Yeah,
I mean, like, what would he have done?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Or maybe he had this experience where somebody's staring you
down from the witness stand.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Good, and I'll hit him with my take and if
he wants to strike me with the gavel of logic,
I will. I will take the blows manfully. But I
hope you hold you in contempt. Ah, he may, it's
it's our courtroom. I'll hold him in contempt. Oh he
can't handle the truth. Huh. All right, So, on a
totally different topic, a couple of education related stories.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm struck by.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And we don't want to be overly negative or constantly
howling about terrible, terrible problems in society, just because I mean,
it's absolutely worth knowing. And if you're going to be
an intelligent adult and citizen and and and you know,
leader of a family or a parent or whatever, you
ought to know these things. At the same time, we
don't want to be relentlessly negative. But I am struck
(22:49):
by something like public education and the state it's in.
And it reminds me of conversation I had with a
landscaping designer the other day. We're having just a little
work done, and he was talking about how no matter
how beautifully designed landscape is, it only lasts for a
(23:10):
certain number of years, and then it will become overgrown.
Things will dye, Plants you don't intend will sprout, things
will just get too woody, and it's just no longer
pleasing the eye. And it's a fairly long time. But
and it was funny as he was talking, I was thinking,
that's for me. The United States is in a lot
of Yeah, that's right. The universe tends toward to entropy,
(23:32):
meaning chaos or certainly ugliness, and it strikes me that
there are a number of institutions in the United States
that were beautifully designed, well executed, but the things that
tend to screw them up have now gotten the upper
hand over the things that tend to make them good,
to the point that it's time to tear them out
(23:53):
and start again.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And education, I think is near the top of that list.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Whether you're talking about secondary education, universities and colleges, We've
talked about that a lot, but even primary education. A
couple of examples, Wall Street Journal reporting test scores are down,
but the GPAs are up, the new angst, over grade, inflation,
and got Some of this is for the worst of reasons,
(24:21):
some not, But go ahead. I'm dealing with this in
my own actual life right now. But I just do
not understand how you think you're doing anybody a favor
by making them feel like they're in a student if
they're not.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Right, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think that is a combination of significantly worse than
that is making them feel like they can do basic
math and basic reading and are ready to go out.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Into the world and are not. Yeah, that's a horribless service.
Oh my god, it should be criminal. Yeah. I think
it's a mix of.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Terrible philosophies that tend to get hold in education take
hold in education, which we've discussed. You know, all sorts
of radical theories for one, but and the misplaced idea
that you're holding holding a kid back is literally holding
them back. Promote them, they'll they'll catch up, they'll do fine.
(25:27):
And I also think it's self serving in a way
because you, as an educator are being asked to do
something very difficult these days, which is in many cases,
to make up for the fact that families are not
teaching their kids to read, they're not participants in their kids' education,
they don't value education.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You're supposed to make up for it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
And you have talk show hosts and politicians and various
people yelling at the folks in the school. You're supposed
to take care of that, make sure this kid can read,
and you're thinking you're giving me bad raw material. Anyway,
I don't want to get bogged down too much in
the y, but a lot of it has to do
right now with the pandemic and the kids attendance is terrible,
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their ability to pay attention is terrible. They're discouraged, they're
socially backward, and troubled and anxious and the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Since that Saturday night live bit we played from the
other night where the teachers on there said the pandemic
broke something we can't fix.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yes, right, And I sympathize to some degree, you got
to overcome this. But I sympathize with educators who are saying, look,
these poor kids got screwed, yeah, by your union's policies
and your party's policies and keeping the schools closed even
though Europe's.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Were open, Conservative areas were open, and.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Private schools were open anyway, And so they're thinking, all right,
what'll screw the kids up? The least if we give
them a bunch of bad grades and mess up their
chances of getting into a college, that's going to screw
them up more than if we say, yeah, that's seventy
eight on the test.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah that's an A.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Now, Yeah, yeah, congratulations on your A. So we're in
a hell of a spot. Studying Washington State found that
in the twenty twenty one I'm sorry, the twenty one
twenty two school year, high school grades were at or
above levels seen below before the pandemic, at or above
pre pandemic. Right, They found that among students who took
the ACT, high school grades had risen, the ACT scores
(27:23):
had dipped. And it's all over the country anyway, I
want to move on that.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It doesn't make any sense to me have the scores
be lower, keep the same standards, have more people. First
of all, I think we need to go back to
holding people back. I realized the stigma on kids who
were held back. I remember it from when I.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was a kid.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But ge, you just aren't doing anybody any favors by
moving them along. That's going to make their life so
much worse than what are stigma's attached to you take
fifth grade twice well, and I had a bunch of
stuff to get to, including a solid kicking to the teachers' unions.
But I've opened a can of worms, so I must
deal with the worms.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I started to picture in worms, and especially not the
fresh gume.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
What's the expiration date on these? They smell funky.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
So one thing that strikes me is even well meaning
teachers and administrators. And I've got a kid who's dealing
with the unforgivably screwed up federal government, crappy.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Job faths, situation.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But it's all about colleges and universities which are utterly corrupt,
speaking of great inflation, and people aren't doing the work,
and they're indoctrinating kids instead of teaching them. But the
view among mainstream educators in primary education is all right, look,
this kid's clearly doing see work, maybe be minus work,
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but if we give them season B minuses, everybody else
is inflating grades. So little Johnny and Jenny aren't going
to get into the college that they want to, and
their parents are going to beat the hell out of us,
and they're gonna ask us, why are you the only
school district in America that's grading accurately?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You just screwed little Jenny.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And you know what, Mom and Dad, in a world
of dishonesty and perverse grading, have a point.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
They do.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But please note how it's all being driven by the
giant for profit cash cow. It's a cash elephant, it's
a cash brontosaurus. That is the university system. And Joe Jojo,
wait a minute, most universities are not for profit, you
stupid naive. When you have a system where millions and
(29:51):
millions of people are making six figure salaries that can.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Never go away. That's not not for profit.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I realize it is in terms of tax law, but
it's funny that those definitions are those you know, those
terms that we use that are have strictly to do
a tax law now have infected our consciousness so that
people think, oh, well, they don't make.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
A profit there. So people aren't in it for the money,
stupid child of it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Moron. No, people are making zillions of dollars in this
scam that is the modern university system. And now that
extrue that solid gold tail is wagging the dog of
primary education.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I just don't know what I think of your philosophy
of beating logic into people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
When all else fails. Sometimes it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So if you slap them enough, it'll make Oh now
it makes sense that third slap across my cheek.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now I get it. It's worth trying, Barber.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Eric, Yeah, well, I don't know what it needs to.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Do to get back to my original point.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's difficult to imagine a little tweak here and a
little fertilizer there to fix the landscape of American education.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So if you, for instance of California probably led the
way on this, But jeez, back when we started our
talk radio career. They lowered the standards for high school
graduation to get the numbers up. So whatever it was,
it was like only like half a kids were meeting
the standards and graduating. They wanted to get that number higher,
so they lowered the standard, and of course you had
(31:32):
more people graduating. Here's the key in case you weren't
following us. The kids didn't get better educated or smarter.
They just lowered the standard to get more people to graduate.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
If they didn't improve the teaching or deal with the
fact that some families don't value education, start a campaign
to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, they lowered the standard.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
But if you put it to a vote and said,
we're going to have more rigorous standards. Now we know
that year one we're going to go from and I
don't know what the numbers currently are, sixty eight percent
graduation rate to more like fifty percent graduation rate, but
overall will be good.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Would most people vote for that or not? Do you
think I vote for it?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a difficult question. Although I'm
just struck by you left out the end that that
didn't do enough good in California, so they limited this
eliminated the standards completely, right, right, and now they'll just
give anybody a diploma and it's worthless and meaningless.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, I've run into some of that in my own life,
and it is very, very frustrating. I think the and
given the enormous power political power of the unions, which
maybe we can talk about tomorrow, I've read some just
terrific analysis of how teachers' unions have become a massive
political force.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Outside of education. But I think the only.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
The only success you're gonna find, the only solution you're
going to find, is outside of public education in America.
You got to go charter schools, private schools in particular.
I think you're to see that booming in the next
twenty years, I mean like exploding, because public education is dying.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We got to take a break, obviously, if you have
any thoughts on any of this. Our text line is
four one five two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We're gonna talk to an actual.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Judge about what was going on in the courtroom at
the Trump drawn a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. So this is not.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
An official late night joke off, but this is some
of the late night Comics taking on the goings on
at the Trump trial from yesterday.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Trump's lawyers they've been working to paint Michael Cohen as
a sleazy liar who's hell bent on revenge, while conveniently
leaving out the fact that Trump used him as his
own personal porno venmo.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And after calling twenty witnesses over the past month, the
prosecution rested their case.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
When he heard Trump was like, big deal.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I've been resting the whole case, sanderus Donners.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Michael Cohen admitted on the stand today he's stole money
from the Trump organization. Only in a Donald Trump trial,
with the star witness be the one who ends up
going to jail.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
How lucky is Donald Trump?
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Donald Donald Trump is like a corruption mister Magoo. He's
just stumbling around quid pro quohen metal beams falling around him,
gets out completely unscathed.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
First of all, that's the problem with being in your
sixties and doing comedy. You're making mister McGoo references that
you have to be pretty old to understand comedy.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Classic.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I thought porno venmo was a funny term. Even though
again you get to do that. There's no law against that.
You see. Well, and I would point out to John
Stuart that a lot of the quote unquote corruption you're
thinking of was nonexistent, like the old Trump hotel flap.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You remember that, But it has been pointed out so
that the revelation yesterday that Cohen stole sixty five thousand
dollars from Trump, that is a bigger crime with a
bigger penalty than the one Trump is being accused of,
which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like I'm on trail for
trial for shoplifting and uh and my neighbors called to
testify and he says, oh, yeah, I saw him with
the lawnmarers on my way to murdered Jim. And I
stopped by, said Joe a new mower, and he said yeah, yeah,
but then he hit it away.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It was weird. And the judge is like, wait a minute,
did you just say murder Jim? And then they go
on with the trial for the stolen lawnmower? Are we
serious here? Right? Hey? We got this text on the commerce.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
We were just having about schools and everything around that
whole topic. Anonymous librarian here, It started before COVID guys
and there are so many factors, lack of discipline, worrying
about feelings above skills, character assemblies, so many assemblies that
are all about things that nobody used to think about.
(36:22):
Because my kids go to them empty awards, equal outcomes,
so on and so on.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's what I'm saying. It's so diseased, I think it
may be fatal.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Armstrong and Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Show, Yeah, it's graduation season right now. Everyone with an
English degree is like, well, now what tomorrow they'll be
on LinkedIn and my next week they'll be on OnlyFans.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's sad. It's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I like the everyone with an English degree and lots
of different degrees actually are saying and now what, Yeah,
that is a lot of the problem with the modern college,
and now.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What am I supposed to do well?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Particularly given the great inflation in the under teaching. I
feel for the kids. They didn't decide this is the
way the system want to work well and our culture
and having gone to a couple of orientations for junior
high and high school recently, they zen it as this
(01:01):
is what everybody does.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You go to.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
College and then that's and so you would just assume that, Okay,
this is what I see adults around me with jobs,
this is how the whole thing works.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Nobody informs you that, well, there's like ninety five percent
of the degrees were given out at a lot of
these fancy universities have no value in the real world
whatsoever in terms of making a living.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That should be pointed out more often.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Wow, okay't won't get off track on that important thing
with the Trump trial today. Trump showed up with his
entourage today, including Sebastian Gorka, who we've had on the
air many times.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It was kind of an interesting character.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And Joe Episcopo if you're old enough to remember him
from Saturday Night Live in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So all the stars have turned out?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Does something? Doesn't it all seem like flies circling? You
know what?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I hate this story. We've already complained about it once
to day. The outpouring of respect, love and admiration for
the president of Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What the F is this?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So this just came across the UN Headquarters in New
York City, the big UN building. If you've never walked
by it, it's worth the sea and in New York
it's pretty impressient. The UN Headquarters has just lowered its
flag to half masted and tribute after the death of
Racy the Foreign Minister and the Foreign Minister of Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What is that theory?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, they're the president, so you're going with some sort
of every elected president we treat with the same dignity
because we're a global body. How about correct if it's
a complete sham election, it still counts.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So they call him the president. But he wasn't elected
by the people, you know that, right, And he's an
awful human being. He's a murderer, he's a terrorist. They're
the world's leading sponsor of state terror. And that's the
guy who died in your going the flag for How
am I supposed to take the UN seriously? How does
anybody take the UN seriously? He was appointed to his
(03:07):
position by a monster that runs a seventh century death cult,
the Supreme Leader.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, it's disgusting. I like this. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
First the guard. First, the guards canceled family visits. Then
they confiscated the prisoners radios. Then came the tribunals. Within
weeks weeks, ten thousand Iranian dissidents were dead, many of
them young people. Sitting in judgment at some of these
hastily called death commissions was a deputy prosecutor named Abraham
(03:37):
ray Eci, a hardline cleric blah blah blah, who just
croaked it in the helicopter crash. This guy was one
of the leaders in Look, you got all these people
in their teens, their twenties, early thirties, they've spoken out
against the government. Why don't we just snuff them all
and start anew. So they ran these kangaroo courts and
just hanged and put to death ten thousand young people
(04:02):
who are convicted of opposing the government. This guy is
the worst sort of monster.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This moral relatism, relativism thing that goes on just is
so nuts. So you want to treat every president the same,
because if Joe Biden died, you'd want to have a
minute moment of silence at the UN.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And so we will do it for the president of Iran.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But as a governing body that looks at elections around
the world and decides which ones are free and fair
and which ones aren't, why wouldn't you have a standard
of if you're an actual elected president, Okay, we'll have
a minute of silence, But if you didn't have a
free and fair election, no, yeah, but they did anyway
to that, And our own American UN representatives stood with
(04:45):
head bowed in a minute of silence for this. The
Butcher of Tehran I appreciated that Mitch McConnell yesterday decided
to give a little speech Republican Senator, I too would
like to extend my condolences to the people of Iran
for their long suffering under brutal theocratic rule of the
Islamic Republic. I suspect a great many Iranians would rather
Western myers stop lionizing a man known as the Butcher
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of Tehran.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Let's go ahead and listen to clip seventy four. Then
we'll come back with more.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
The condolences are pouring in from Iran's allies around the
world today. The US State Department was questioned about the
death of Risi after Deputy US Ambassador to the United
Nations Robert Wood was part of a group to stand
and honor the late Iranian president.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Does the State Parment of view that as appropriate taking
part in that kind of observance.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let me say a few things.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
One, we have been quite clear that Abraham Racy was
a brutal participant in the repression of the Iranian people
for nearly four decades. That said, we regret any loss
of life. We don't want to see anyone die in
a helicopter crash.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
No, No, that's so week. I want to say, bulliss
so bad. I heard Scarborough say it on MSNBC today twice. Yeah,
and I heard Jake tappersade on CNN yesterday. We're getting close. Yes,
I think please can we allow to say that because.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That's bs free bs, because that's what that is. We
hate any loss of life in a helicopter. What no,
glad the guy's dead, like you said yesterday. I hope
he died painfully. I'm perfectly fine with our president saying
that out loud. So getting back to the summary execution
of five figures worth of young people in Iran, the
(06:27):
killings were so extreme that Komani this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is the Ayatola, the original guy.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
His deputy in preferred air, Grand Iatola josein what's his face, objected,
saying the victims had already been legally convicted and sentenced.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It made a mockery of the law.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
He argued to impose the death sentence on people who
were already serving their time and had committed no new crimes.
But Ray easy overcame that objection, got all those young
people executed. Called the killings quote one of the proud
achievements of Iran's government and more than three decades or
Ron is still not officially acknowledged the massacres and families
(07:03):
of those victims are forbidden to publicly mourn or commemorate
their deaths. This, this person is, This guy is polepot.
He's one of the murderous scumbags, subhuman dictators of history.
The idea that our guy, well, we we murn any
loss of life. So let's lower the flagged half mast
here at the UN.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
This is wow.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I think we are slow to awaken the United States.
We're always slow to awaken, look at history, but we've
been slow to awaken to the new realities of the
multi polar world. We are no longer the one superpower.
When you're the one superpower, you can be. You could
be the mellow uncle everybody loves.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Don't have to crack down much because nobody's where is
anybody gonna turn right? You don't have to be a
tough guy. You're the only show in town. The world
has changed. Man. We better get you know, leaning forward
slightly at the waste on the balls of our feet,
but quick or we are going to get bulldozed.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's a decent point, and where there are other options
like China, which is siding with Russia and ouran it
is worth making the argument, No, there are good guys
and bad guys, and they're the bad guys. And for
our government to you know, we mourn the loss of anyone, well,
we'll lower the flag to have staff for anyone because
the trey elected president.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, they're a horrible regime, they're awful human beings, they're evil,
and we don't need to.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Mourn their deaths. That's nuts.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
These international bodies, the one that the ICC that put
out the arrest warrant for both Net and Yahoo, and
the leaders of OMAMAS. I thought, there's the global version
of restorative justice that they do in our grade schools.
It's exactly the same thing, and it's gonna work as well.
A bunch of bureaucrats who make big money at their
(08:59):
cock tail parties, eating their cheese and their shrimp in
New York City shrimp a bunch yeah, shrimp and cheese eaters.
But they never accomplish anything. They couldn't possibly accomplish anything.
They just go through these aggrandized motions of international diplomacy.
It's a complete waste of time and money, and it's
(09:19):
disgusting and it makes me mad that there are so
many people that because I know people, so I'm picturing
certain faces that believe in the UN and these international
bodies being above it all and a better version of humanity.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And you're so so wrong. You're gonna get people killed
with that view. It just drives me nuts.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, it's so naive.
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Speaker 1 (11:04):
One more word on this.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I saw this retweeted by Stephen Hayes of The Dispatch yesterday.
It's frustrating to watch so many brave Iranians risking their
lives to signal how they felt about the butcher of
Tehan Yep. There were a lot of young Iranians on
the street yesterday risking their lives literally, only to have
so many in the West who can tell the truth
without consequences instead choose to pretend that this was someone
(11:28):
worth morning. I can't even get in the head of
you people, I really can't. I can't figure out. I
don't even know how you look at the world, how
your brain works.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It makes no sense to me. Yeah, no kidding, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
One other things I wanted to mention before we go
to break came across this yesterday. It's a guy who
runs Microsoft something or other right now. The new Windows
PCs if you're a Windows person. I'm an Apple person,
but if you're a Windows person, will have a photographic
memory feature called Recall that will remember and understand everything
(12:07):
you do on your computer by taking constant screenshots.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Is this something people wanted? Everything you do on your
computer ever, will be stored somewhere because it takes constant screenshots.
Andy presented that like, yay a, how do I flip
that off? Not that I'm doing anything, but no, beware
(12:35):
of the well, I'm not doing anything bad. So I
think government surveillance is fine. Why would anybody want that.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's got to be to grab data, right, I mean,
why do they want to put it in there? It's
got to be something to their benefit because consumers don't
want it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why would any consumer want that?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Well, every data grab is portrayed as something that you
would want. I mean, they'll say, you ever we get
the name of that tab that you accidentally closed, all
you have to do is rewind five minutes and people say.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh, that would be great. All right?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Then Mark Zuckerberg is up in your underwear drawer. You
your proverbial? What do you not wash your underwear? My
underwear drawer?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You could?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You could do surgery in there, it's so clean. Hey,
I'm tired of wearing glasses and I don't think I'm
gonna wear them anymore. I don' think I'm gonna have
to wear them anymore after one thirty this afternoon. Uh,
because I'm getting new lenses put in my eyes. I
didn't even know this was a thing until like a
month ago.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Did you know this?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I didn't know this for some reason. I want to
talk about that at some point. And we've got a
lot of stuff to get to today.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I hope you can stay here strong.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
After Kevin Costner overwhelmed by a seven minute standing ovation
for his new movie, premiering at the can Film Festival,
It's been on and on. Custner wiping away tears as
children there the new movie The Horizon and American Saga.
Costumer producing, directing, co writing, starring, to mortgage his own
ranch to make it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Kevin Costner like really put his financial life on the
line to get this dream of his life motion picture made.
It's actually a series of films about the West and
the settling of the West from the standpoint of the
cowboys and the Indians and everybody and that sort of stuff.
Seven minutes standing ovation at Con. But the reviews have
(14:28):
been pretty tepid. I guess so I have no idea
if it'll be.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Good or not.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'd love it's crap, it's crap, It's not doubt, it's
I usually like Kevin Costner vehicles. Oh yeah, yeah, he's
a he's a great filmmaker. I'm curious what drove him.
I haven't really seen the interviews or what have you
or read about it. Why would he take on so
much risk at this point in his life.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I want to mention this just because I think it's
kind of interesting. I didn't know this was an option
until a couple of months ago. The idea of getting
new lenses in your eyeball. I didn't know that was
a thing for some reason. And I'm getting it done today.
And I'm I'm a reading glasses guy past the age
of forty.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you're not there yet, you will need reading glasses.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And I've got like five thousand pairs of them all
over my house and cars and everything like that, because
I'm practically helpless if I ever have to read anything
and I don't have reading glasses handy. So I'm getting
my lenses and my eyes replaced. I don't know how
they yank them out and put new ones in. I
don't want to know, actually, because it would.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Hit me out.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's that's good. Yeah, that's smart. I don't worry about it.
It's not get lost.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
In the details.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I will mention that I'm going to the Laser Eye
Center of Silicon Valley in northern California. This is not
an ad I'm doing right here, although I do endorse
them and have had a great experience. But I'm getting
it done, and I just I think in theory, you
get new lenses and then your eyes are going to
be perfect forever. They're not. You're like your human body.
Eyes are made out of plastic or whatever they're made
(15:57):
out of. And since I started looking into it, I'm
running to several people that have got it done. So
I suppose this will be incredibly common in the future. Right,
if you can just get new lenses and now, all
of a sudden you can see.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So it joins a growing list of human body parts
that can be replaced by mechanical substitutes heart valves, for instance.
I mean, a lens is not that complex a system.
I'm sure the cornea can do things that I don't
know about that are cool. But yeah, the idea of
I need to focus some beams on this surface, which
is your retina, that's not that incredibly complicated. Also found out,
(16:39):
and I didn't know this, I'm not actually color blind.
Probably it's just my lens are so dirty, they're so
clogged up that everything is kind of blurred together as
grays and browns. And after I get these new lenses today,
they said, the first thing I'll notice is being able
to see color again. So that wow, So your eyes
are pretty messed up, then, I guess I didn't even know. Yeah,
(17:01):
I don't ever wear sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I never have really, and it's because I don't get
much light coming into my eyes, and so I just
don't need sunglasses, and I guess I will need them
after this afternoon when I get new lenses.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Wow. Wow, I don't like to.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Think about it though. I don't want to think about
what they're going to do. Do they come up through you?
How do they get in through your areas? How do
they get your.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Lenses out of there? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
They run a snake up through There's a vein in
your foot, and they run it all the way up
to the three your genitals and then right through your
guts and then right through the middle of your heart. No,
it's you know you've had lazy. I mean it's the
technology is amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
How long it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Takes to get your lenses yanked out and new ones
in ten minutes?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I almost thought, could you take it? Could it make
take it longer? It feels seems like it should take longer.
I feel like you're rushing it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
How long before all of us are walking around with
a mechanical heart velve and a pig's kidney and the
job of them an asked to cite the Good Book
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't know. Right as soon as your joints start
to hurt it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Whatever age, you get new joints, new eyes, new hearts,
everything like that. Yeah, I think that is the direction
we're going.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, I've got a couple of those fake joints and
they're working out great, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Gorilla thumbs. Who knows.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
There's no look, So the police are definitely after me,
which is why it's very risky for me to be
doing this interview.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's a police officer right there.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
If that police officer just turns his head and looks
at me, I'm I'm in jail. So it's like, I
don't know, I got a But with great risk comes
great rewards. It was very scary. I was looking down
because like when you get scared, you start to shake,
and then when you shake, the line shakes, then you
fall off, and then I didn't want to fall, so.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You have to calm your mind. So what was that, Michael?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I set up a tight rope between two buildings and
walked it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I like his brilliant and insightful explanation of why walking
a tight rote between two buildings is difficult. If you
get nervous, you'll start to shake, and if you shake,
you might fall off. Yeah, Yeah, that's what we all
kind of assume.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, he's an expert in the field. Who are you
to question him?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
With great reward comes great risk or something? He said, whatever,
All right, what.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Reward are we talking about there? Skippy?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Wow, guys who are driven to that? We were talking
earlier about how you only spend time in your own head.
You don't know how other people perceive the world, how
they perceive pain, joy, you know, even sound and light.
I cannot imagine what it's like inside the head of
a guy who's like I could play golf with my
buddies today, or I could set up a wire between
(19:45):
two skyscrapers in LA and walk between them without a net.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna do the whole skyscraper thing.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Some people, clearly, usually men need a certain amount of
adrenaline to be happy. Maybe that's what I get from
riding a motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But and some people don't need any But that guy
needs a lot more than me, because I do not
need to walk a tight rope between two buildings.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, Katie, this is.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
This is just a prime example as to why women
live longer.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You guys do stuff like this. Oh, there's actually there's
a great deal of truth to that. Yeah. Yeah, especially
prior to the age of like fifty.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, but maybe throughout history when life was way more dangerous,
he needed that guy. People who need that level of
adrenaline to, you know, go over the hill and scout
that village on the other side and see how scary
they are, or go see if you can get through
that cave with the giant bear.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
But those things aren't happening now, so when all of
you guys just call down and live a little longer.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
But evolutionary wise, there are still people who desire that
level of excitement.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I guess if he had never tried the cave bear challenge, Katie,
you don't know what you're missing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh, well, you know, I choose the bear, so we'll
go there. It is.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It is kind of interesting, though, because they're different levels
of it. Because a lot of people can't understand why
anybody would ride a motorcycle. I can't understand why that
guy would walk a tightrope between two buildings. I have
a friend who's a base jumper. I can't understand why
he wants to do that on a regular basis.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You have a certain and me I consider going for
a par five and two a little nerve racking.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So yes, different sorts.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Speaking of Katie Green, who just joined us briefly, we
are looking forward to chatting with her dad, who is
a retired but extremely respected and experienced judge and he's
adjudicated many many trials through his career in including many
murder trials.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
He's a serious man of law.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
To talk about some of the fireworks at the Trump
trial in Manhattan yesterday, it was a hell of day.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And how lucky we are to have an experienced trial
judge to talk to. So looking forward to that. Yeah,
I mean, like, what would he have done?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Or maybe he had this experience where somebody's staring you
down from the witness stand.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Good, and I'll hit him with my take and if
he wants to strike me with the gavel of logic,
I will. I will take the blows manfully. But I
hope you hold you in contempt. Ah, he may, it's
it's our courtroom. I'll hold him in contempt. Oh he
can't handle the truth. Huh. All right, So, on a
totally different topic, a couple of education related stories.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm struck by.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And we don't want to be overly negative or constantly
howling about terrible, terrible problems in society, just because I mean,
it's absolutely worth knowing. And if you're going to be
an intelligent adult and citizen and and and you know,
leader of a family or a parent or whatever, you
ought to know these things. At the same time, we
don't want to be relentlessly negative. But I am struck
(22:49):
by something like public education and the state it's in.
And it reminds me of conversation I had with a
landscaping designer the other day. We're having just a little
work done, and he was talking about how no matter
how beautifully designed landscape is, it only lasts for a
(23:10):
certain number of years, and then it will become overgrown.
Things will dye, Plants you don't intend will sprout, things
will just get too woody, and it's just no longer
pleasing the eye. And it's a fairly long time. But
and it was funny as he was talking, I was thinking,
that's for me. The United States is in a lot
of Yeah, that's right. The universe tends toward to entropy,
(23:32):
meaning chaos or certainly ugliness, and it strikes me that
there are a number of institutions in the United States
that were beautifully designed, well executed, but the things that
tend to screw them up have now gotten the upper
hand over the things that tend to make them good,
to the point that it's time to tear them out
(23:53):
and start again.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And education, I think is near the top of that list.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Whether you're talking about secondary education, universities and colleges, We've
talked about that a lot, but even primary education. A
couple of examples, Wall Street Journal reporting test scores are down,
but the GPAs are up, the new angst, over grade, inflation,
and got Some of this is for the worst of reasons,
(24:21):
some not, But go ahead. I'm dealing with this in
my own actual life right now. But I just do
not understand how you think you're doing anybody a favor
by making them feel like they're in a student if
they're not.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Right, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think that is a combination of significantly worse than
that is making them feel like they can do basic
math and basic reading and are ready to go out.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Into the world and are not. Yeah, that's a horribless service.
Oh my god, it should be criminal. Yeah. I think
it's a mix of.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Terrible philosophies that tend to get hold in education take
hold in education, which we've discussed. You know, all sorts
of radical theories for one, but and the misplaced idea
that you're holding holding a kid back is literally holding
them back. Promote them, they'll they'll catch up, they'll do fine.
(25:27):
And I also think it's self serving in a way
because you, as an educator are being asked to do
something very difficult these days, which is in many cases,
to make up for the fact that families are not
teaching their kids to read, they're not participants in their kids' education,
they don't value education.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You're supposed to make up for it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
And you have talk show hosts and politicians and various
people yelling at the folks in the school. You're supposed
to take care of that, make sure this kid can read,
and you're thinking you're giving me bad raw material. Anyway,
I don't want to get bogged down too much in
the y, but a lot of it has to do
right now with the pandemic and the kids attendance is terrible,
(26:08):
their ability to pay attention is terrible. They're discouraged, they're
socially backward, and troubled and anxious and the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Since that Saturday night live bit we played from the
other night where the teachers on there said the pandemic
broke something we can't fix.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yes, right, And I sympathize to some degree, you got
to overcome this. But I sympathize with educators who are saying, look,
these poor kids got screwed, yeah, by your union's policies
and your party's policies and keeping the schools closed even
though Europe's.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Were open, Conservative areas were open, and.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Private schools were open anyway, And so they're thinking, all right,
what'll screw the kids up? The least if we give
them a bunch of bad grades and mess up their
chances of getting into a college, that's going to screw
them up more than if we say, yeah, that's seventy
eight on the test.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah that's an A.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Now, Yeah, yeah, congratulations on your A. So we're in
a hell of a spot. Studying Washington State found that
in the twenty twenty one I'm sorry, the twenty one
twenty two school year, high school grades were at or
above levels seen below before the pandemic, at or above
pre pandemic. Right, They found that among students who took
the ACT, high school grades had risen, the ACT scores
(27:23):
had dipped. And it's all over the country anyway, I
want to move on that.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It doesn't make any sense to me have the scores
be lower, keep the same standards, have more people. First
of all, I think we need to go back to
holding people back. I realized the stigma on kids who
were held back. I remember it from when I.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was a kid.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But ge, you just aren't doing anybody any favors by
moving them along. That's going to make their life so
much worse than what are stigma's attached to you take
fifth grade twice well, and I had a bunch of
stuff to get to, including a solid kicking to the teachers' unions.
But I've opened a can of worms, so I must
deal with the worms.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I started to picture in worms, and especially not the
fresh gume.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
What's the expiration date on these? They smell funky.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
So one thing that strikes me is even well meaning
teachers and administrators. And I've got a kid who's dealing
with the unforgivably screwed up federal government, crappy.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Job faths, situation.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But it's all about colleges and universities which are utterly corrupt,
speaking of great inflation, and people aren't doing the work,
and they're indoctrinating kids instead of teaching them. But the
view among mainstream educators in primary education is all right, look,
this kid's clearly doing see work, maybe be minus work,
(29:00):
but if we give them season B minuses, everybody else
is inflating grades. So little Johnny and Jenny aren't going
to get into the college that they want to, and
their parents are going to beat the hell out of us,
and they're gonna ask us, why are you the only
school district in America that's grading accurately?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You just screwed little Jenny.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And you know what, Mom and Dad, in a world
of dishonesty and perverse grading, have a point.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
They do.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But please note how it's all being driven by the
giant for profit cash cow. It's a cash elephant, it's
a cash brontosaurus. That is the university system. And Joe Jojo,
wait a minute, most universities are not for profit, you
stupid naive. When you have a system where millions and
(29:51):
millions of people are making six figure salaries that can.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Never go away. That's not not for profit.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I realize it is in terms of tax law, but
it's funny that those definitions are those you know, those
terms that we use that are have strictly to do
a tax law now have infected our consciousness so that
people think, oh, well, they don't make.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
A profit there. So people aren't in it for the money,
stupid child of it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Moron. No, people are making zillions of dollars in this
scam that is the modern university system. And now that
extrue that solid gold tail is wagging the dog of
primary education.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I just don't know what I think of your philosophy
of beating logic into people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
When all else fails. Sometimes it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So if you slap them enough, it'll make Oh now
it makes sense that third slap across my cheek.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now I get it. It's worth trying, Barber.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Eric, Yeah, well, I don't know what it needs to.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Do to get back to my original point.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's difficult to imagine a little tweak here and a
little fertilizer there to fix the landscape of American education.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So if you, for instance of California probably led the
way on this, But jeez, back when we started our
talk radio career. They lowered the standards for high school
graduation to get the numbers up. So whatever it was,
it was like only like half a kids were meeting
the standards and graduating. They wanted to get that number higher,
so they lowered the standard, and of course you had
(31:32):
more people graduating. Here's the key in case you weren't
following us. The kids didn't get better educated or smarter.
They just lowered the standard to get more people to graduate.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
If they didn't improve the teaching or deal with the
fact that some families don't value education, start a campaign
to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, they lowered the standard.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
But if you put it to a vote and said,
we're going to have more rigorous standards. Now we know
that year one we're going to go from and I
don't know what the numbers currently are, sixty eight percent
graduation rate to more like fifty percent graduation rate, but
overall will be good.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Would most people vote for that or not? Do you
think I vote for it?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a difficult question. Although I'm
just struck by you left out the end that that
didn't do enough good in California, so they limited this
eliminated the standards completely, right, right, and now they'll just
give anybody a diploma and it's worthless and meaningless.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, I've run into some of that in my own life,
and it is very, very frustrating. I think the and
given the enormous power political power of the unions, which
maybe we can talk about tomorrow, I've read some just
terrific analysis of how teachers' unions have become a massive
political force.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Outside of education. But I think the only.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
The only success you're gonna find, the only solution you're
going to find, is outside of public education in America.
You got to go charter schools, private schools in particular.
I think you're to see that booming in the next
twenty years, I mean like exploding, because public education is dying.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We got to take a break, obviously, if you have
any thoughts on any of this. Our text line is
four one five two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We're gonna talk to an actual.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Judge about what was going on in the courtroom at
the Trump drawn a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. So this is not.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
An official late night joke off, but this is some
of the late night Comics taking on the goings on
at the Trump trial from yesterday.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Trump's lawyers they've been working to paint Michael Cohen as
a sleazy liar who's hell bent on revenge, while conveniently
leaving out the fact that Trump used him as his
own personal porno venmo.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And after calling twenty witnesses over the past month, the
prosecution rested their case.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
When he heard Trump was like, big deal.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I've been resting the whole case, sanderus Donners.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Michael Cohen admitted on the stand today he's stole money
from the Trump organization. Only in a Donald Trump trial,
with the star witness be the one who ends up
going to jail.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
How lucky is Donald Trump?
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Donald Donald Trump is like a corruption mister Magoo. He's
just stumbling around quid pro quohen metal beams falling around him,
gets out completely unscathed.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
First of all, that's the problem with being in your
sixties and doing comedy. You're making mister McGoo references that
you have to be pretty old to understand comedy.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Classic.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I thought porno venmo was a funny term. Even though
again you get to do that. There's no law against that.
You see. Well, and I would point out to John
Stuart that a lot of the quote unquote corruption you're
thinking of was nonexistent, like the old Trump hotel flap.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You remember that, But it has been pointed out so
that the revelation yesterday that Cohen stole sixty five thousand
dollars from Trump, that is a bigger crime with a
bigger penalty than the one Trump is being accused of,
which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like I'm on trail for
trial for shoplifting and uh and my neighbors called to
testify and he says, oh, yeah, I saw him with
the lawnmarers on my way to murdered Jim. And I
stopped by, said Joe a new mower, and he said yeah, yeah,
but then he hit it away.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It was weird. And the judge is like, wait a minute,
did you just say murder Jim? And then they go
on with the trial for the stolen lawnmower? Are we
serious here? Right? Hey? We got this text on the commerce.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
We were just having about schools and everything around that
whole topic. Anonymous librarian here, It started before COVID guys
and there are so many factors, lack of discipline, worrying
about feelings above skills, character assemblies, so many assemblies that
are all about things that nobody used to think about.
(36:22):
Because my kids go to them empty awards, equal outcomes,
so on and so on.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's what I'm saying. It's so diseased, I think it
may be fatal.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
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