May 10, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Traveling overseas...
- Jack consider a significant lifestyle change...
- Will the internet eat itself?
- Final Thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Somebody wants to start a gofund me for my uber
driver I had yesterday who picks up a bloody guy
right after a motorcycle wreck and got blood inside his
car and was like perfectly cool with it. What a
good dude. Yeah. I got really lucky with my uber
driver because a lot of other people wouldn't have picked
me up at all, especially where I was because he
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had to pull over on and off him, but and
then bleeding inside his car.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And he wasn't driving one of those what was that
that funky cube shape thing that I'm sure they still
sell where you could like hose it off the inside.
The youngsters who liked to camp and stuff had Yeah, me,
I see somebody buy one of those. I make sure
they're not a psycho killer that had The cops ought
to just routinely question people who own those, think about it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I am. I went for the cheapest uber ride thinking
it might be kind of a crappy car, because sometimes
they are. I didn't go because sometimes they go for
like the comfort or whatever, which is a nicer car,
because I knew I was bleeding everywhere, yeah, and all dirty,
so I got lucky. It was kind of a beat
up like Toyota Camra which and he wipes the blood off.
It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, So before we launch into cow, just when we're
thought the U, I guess it was the Today Show.
There's that story about the Chinese painting chow dogs to
look like pandas, and somebody got some footage of several
of them running around. And as I said earlier, if
you could figure out how to breed a dog that
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looked like that, you'd be a trillionaire. You'd have more
money than Apple. But they've run that footage of those
little panda looking dogs like twenty times this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So does the Chinese population actually fall forward or you
just got You can't complain to anybody because it ends
up on your social credit score. Don't complain about the
probably government run zoo. I suppose. I wonder if that's
part of it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, although China the easy thing to forget about China,
and I have not traveled there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I wish I had back.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, before relations got as chilly as they are
now and our.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Boss was just there for two weeks and loved it. Yeah,
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just I wonder whether I don't know if they
I know that Chinese have a file on me, because
they've got a file like on anybody.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Right now, I would want to fairly high profiles. So
if I ever travel someplace again that's not set up
for tourism, which China isn't according to our boss. Uh,
just like when I went to Russia, I will only
do it if I'm with somebody that's from there. Yeah,
you got to a guide because otherwise it's just you
can't enjoy it, right too stressful. Well, I don't know
about stressful, but even just like if there nobody speaks
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English and there are no signs in English and you
walk into a museum, a restaurant whatever. I tried to
order coffee when I was Russia. I was there for
like forty five minutes and just left because what am
I gonna do? Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Wow reminds me of a Cuban cafe I went to
in Fort Myers a couple of years ago with my
buddy Brian. The umpire is there for a spring break
or spring training, and you.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Went for spring break with a dude.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well it's out now anyway, that's you know what, It's
a relief. But we had a closet, do you see, No, No,
so we had to we had to find somebody who's
bilingual in line to translate or order because there was
not a single English speaker on staff at this bakery
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cafe in Aflorica in Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, it's crazy, But when I went to Italy with
my friend Giuseppe, who lived there is from Siena, it
was awesome. He sends me to all like the best restaurants,
like cool little places you would never go to, knew
how to speak the language, could order. I mean, it
was so much more fun.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah. Likewise, our friend Drew, who was stationed in Mexico
City for a number of years with the FBI and
speaks fluent Spanish, we would go way off the beaten
path and he was super good. Not only he talked
to locals about, Hey, where do you like to have lunch?
And that's where we'd end up. And plus, if you
know the language, you can sense trouble coming way earlier.
(04:14):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I mean, and it's not like you
over here. Let's hit them over the head and take
their money. No, you can just better sense that. Okay,
everybody's a little uncomfortable here. Why you know, just that
sixth sense part of that's language. Anyway, we have a
lot to squeeze into. It's the last dang hour of
the week. But first let's take a fun look back
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at the very week we're discussing. It's cow clips of
the week and worm orange turn.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How was the goat that is? Ass backus whips of
the week?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Here's a little ditty about choosing hermus Just.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Days after Columbia University called Indian YPD, the school now
canceling the main ceremony. You see all these little gazas
out there on campuses. It's strong and property. There's not
peaceful protest. It's against the law. But I thought this
was about peace. What am I missing here? These are
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degenerate savages.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
How am off We're not going to supply the weapons
and the artillery shells.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Use that have been used artillery shells as well. Yeah,
tillary shell This is insane.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh and I said, and I didn't want to see
I didn't want to look and see how bad it was.
I didn't know if like my kneecap was hanging off
or what. Oh boy, we're working expeditiously. What does that mean?
Though we're very short order, we'll have the What does
short order mean?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Our two biggest government programs, social Security and medicare the
thing that seniors that matters to seniors.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The most, are both headed towards insolvency.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, the uh.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Boy, Scouts of America is changing its name soon to
be known as Scouting America.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So the I mean again, some of this stuff gets
they workplace romances or as American as Apple path. Uh
So you did not meet with Kim Jong un, that's
what you're saying. No, I met with many, many world leaders.
Constitution is much more important than jail. It's setting and close.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared really quite tense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
She testified Trump was on the bed in his boxer
shorts and t shirt. Utterly irrelevant Orange turn forgive the
puns straight from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
To swim Trump, This is one of the low moments
in American history.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared tense, relax it'll be easier.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'd have told her as her lawyer, Wow, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I got this text about my motorcycle wrecks a couple
of these. I'll mention this Jack yesterday, when you said
that you rode your motorcycle to work, I immediately thought, dude,
you're a single dad with two kids. What the effort
you're doing riding a motorcycle at this point in your life.
I get that from people non motorcycle riders now, and
then this somehow perception that has come through culture or
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something that like riding a motorcycle gives you like a
fifty to fifty chance of dying or something. I don't know.
I don't know what that is. You're very unlikely to
die in a car wrecked, and then you're you're slightly
more likely to die in a wreck if you ride
a motorcycle, but it's still incredibly unlikely. And you know,
there's lots of things you can do or dangerous. It's
more dangerous and not riding a motorcycle. But one of
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the decisions I got to make is I'm more worried
about just the pain of getting hurt than dying, you know,
or like hurting my leg in some way that I
can't ride bicycles or run or whatever. That's a tough
one as you as you as you get older in life.
(08:15):
Like my dad didn't stop riding his horse till he
was eighty two, and it was very important to him.
It was part of his life, yes, and uh, and
it was a big deal for him to stop. And
he had a couple of bad crashes as god, he
was like seventy five when he had to get back
on his horse with the broken pelvis and ride four
hours back to the highway before he could get to
the hospital. But you know, do you want depends on
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who your how you're built and everything like that. But
do you do you want to go for ultimate safety
comfort avoid problems? I mean, and everybody's got a different line.
I got. I know a guy who's got two kids
who is a base jumper. Now, to me, that's pretty
out there because it's it's like a lot closer to
like half a base jumper's dying. I mean that that
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happens a lot like he's I know he's been to
tons of funerals of friends or base jeppers. But you know,
I don't I don't know. I don't know how you
make those decisions. Everybody's got to make it for themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, and a purely academic analysis, you should clearly stop
even if it's unlikely it's an unnecessary risk, but if
it means a lot to you, like it meant a
lot to your dad at some point, you know, I'm
sitting right in front of my famous poster, don't be
so obsessed with not dying that you forget to live.
It has an elk on it, because of course it
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has an elk on it, right.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's a good look at elcaty.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Anyway, Sorry, I got distracted what we were talking about.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Everybody has to make that decision for themselves. Yeah yeah.
Are you going to keep skiing or you know whatever
you're whatever it is you're going to do eating and
drinking a certain way. I mean, you could live a
life where you eliminate all of the things that could
you do you damage? Is that what you want? Is
that what you own your life to be?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Everybody has to decide on their own, like you said. Yeah,
I've told this story before, but my sweet wife, Cleverly,
when she was pregnant with our third kid, I was saying,
you know, I'm thinking about selling my motorcycle and not
riding anymore because three kids, as I've said many times,
leaving uh two kids fatherless is horrifying. Three is unconscionable.
(10:21):
And so she said, well, why don't you use the
money you spend on the motorcycle and the insurance and everything.
I'm playing golf. And I said, whoa, wait a minute,
that's that much money, you know what, that's a deal.
And of course our third kid was born. I didn't
see the business end of a golf club for quite
some time.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was a clever maneuver. Yeah, well, your thoughts on
any of this you can always text us four one five,
two nine five KFTC. The most interesting thing a part
about the motorcycle reckon if you want to hear it
was an hour two told the whole story, But was
the spinning as I rolled down the highway that was
the most interesting part. Was just the how fast that
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was going and the thoughts going through my head as
I was just going, wow, like, you don't have any
idea how long that lasted. So you're like still in
riding position, but sideways under your bike. Now the bike
was gone, it had slid off, okay, and I'm on
my own. I'm just I'm just rolling down the highway.
Oh yeah, really really fast though, like so fast. It
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was like sunlight pavement, sunlight payment, just really really fast,
like a little kid rolling down a hell. And I
don't have like any idea if that was five seconds
or a half a second or what, But I I wrote,
there are many revolutions in that period. Given the shape
of you, it could have gone on for quite some time,
gone around roundish ball like physique. But that was it
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was just weird and then and then and then the
ability of the mind to like think a whole bunch
of things. Right, this, this could be the moment I die.
I don't think it probably is, but it certainly could be.
If you know, there's a telephone pole here or right,
I hope the other motorists see me. Yeah, I hope
I don't get run over from behind. Yeah. And then also,
am I gonna make it home in time to pick
up Henry from school? Just that mundane thought, Wow, Yeah,
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it's weird how the brain works. Wow. AnyWho, what are
some things we haven't commented on enough of the week,
Like you said, earlier when we were the Clips of
the week thing. It's like, oh, that's right, the governors
South they go to shot her dog. That seems like
it was three months ago. I know it. Having gone
through the stormy Daniel's trying a couple other things.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hey, do you remember that story when somebody figured out
that AI was writing some of the content for Sports
Illustrated and like one other publication.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And it was seen as a horror or well, it
kind of is.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I ran into a great article from tech related investigative
investigative website who's looking into the company behind that, and
what they learned is really a little scary. I think
the AI juggernaut is upon us already.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's not hard to pull the string and wind me
up on AI, as you know.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
So we can talk about that and other things on
the way.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
After a bunch of people saying that they quit riding
motorcycles because of their kids and everything, cool, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
After motorcycle accident, I thought about not riding a game,
but I realized I had too much money invested in
t shirts and tattoos and just you know, it's a
song costs.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So our initial notion was to play some of the
Stormy Daniels analysis. We haven't played yet today and we
will get to that in a second if we have time.
But just saw in the kitchen launch or luncher and
whatever you want to call it, that David Cameron, who's
now the foreman foreign foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of
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the UK, should rehearsed it. He's come out and said
the UK will not be following the US's lead. We
will not deny arms to Israel. So whops, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And France said the other day that they do not
support Israel going into Rafa. So once again the surrender
eating the cheese eating surrender monkeys of France who have trees,
So the Germans can march in the shade, no unfortunate
as opposed to the Brits and the news that came
out just a little bit ago, the UN General Assembly
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overwhelmingly voted to support a Palestinian state. The US opposed it,
which is enough to keep it from happening.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
They've been offered one repeatedly and turned it down. But
so Biden's ambassador though still voted. Now no Palestinian state,
even with all the talk that's going on. So as
long as we're talking about that, let's hear a couple
of the clips again commenting on that. We'll start with
Mitch McConnell number fifty two. Do we still have that
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older Biden clip that we played from yesterday, Michael craming
a lot fired up? Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Pavilions have been killed in Gaza as a consequence of
those bombs. But it's just wrong. We're not going to
supply the weapons and the artillery shells used. I've made
it clear to bb in the Workhabinet, they're not going
to get our support if in fact they're going these
population centers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's wrong that Hamas hides in them, you jackass.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. The fact that he did not include those caveats, disclaimers,
whatever you'd call that, is horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, Hamas is evil.
That's what he should have said. Hamas is evil. They
hide among the population to try to protect themselves. They
don't care about the women and children of Palestine.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And if they die, well, they care in that more
civilian casualties helps them end the Israeli attacks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So they're in favor of it, so merely from the
politics of it. Even if he is going to have
the same policy for the politics of it. He should
have said that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
How much time do we have, Michael got about a minute,
give me, Lindsey Graham fifty three.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
What you're doing is you're saying Hamas has put Palestinians
into the crosshairs of Israel, so stand Israel down. That's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life,
is that you tell the person who's about to be
wiped off the map, you got to slow down because
your enemy is making it hard on the Palestinian people
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to survive because they choose to put them in arms away.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That is ass backwards.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Just heard Ari Fleischer say Israel is fighting for survival,
Joe Biden is fighting for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oof. I thought that was good. Yeah, And I saw
some analysis that said what Joe Biden's trying to do
is a force bb to the negotiating table, the idea
that you can negotiate with Hamas. Yeah, Hamas just.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Gloried in, gloated in We've been pretending to be a
responsible government, like we could negotiate for a long time
and we love them to sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Then we slaughtered them. Same guys you want them to
negotiate with those guys are strong and getty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They don't even allow these to today. They don't even
allow these today because they're so dangerous, But that's what
they used when I did the film. They're barely six ounces,
they're rays, and they're literally lethal. So I still have
them because it's a time when people were tougher.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Sorry they were.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Life is just getting a little easier and easier and easier.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And oh that's great, it's wonderful, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think when we force ourselves into tough situations, that's
what the human creature is supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
They're not supposed to.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Have wheels on their suitcases.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They're not supposed to have long bowers.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Of ages that pull them along as it can be.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It's no question, but it just makes things easier. Now
with AI, you can let it, put your brain in
the pickle jar and have that machine do it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So I cherished these moments. I cherish hard work, even
though I hate it. I know it's like, hmmm, strong medicine.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Tastes horrible going down, but it makes you feel better,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Sly. That's Sylvester Stallone, famous actor mostly for the movie
Rocky originally which won Best Picture Oscar back in nineteen
seventy six.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I think mm hmm, then many other hit films afterwards.
But Sly, I'm with you on your conclusion. You're one
hundred percent right about AI.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I didn't. I would point on the self propelled lawnmower.
I wouldn't do self prepared lawnmower. I never did that.
But you lost me at wheels on the luggage. You're
not sure I'm gonna I'm not sure I'm going to
give up wheels on the luggage.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Back to before, you know, back in the day lugging
the suitcases through the airport. Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But his overall point is definitely true. The longer I live,
the more clear it seems. The old cyclical you know, Bromide,
it's practical, practically a cliche that hard times make for
tough people, Tough people make for good times, good times
make for soft people. Soft people make for bad times.
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Bad times make for tough people. Tough people make There's
just I don't know that there's any avoiding it. You
can delay it with like having the greatest military ever
seen on the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
For a while. I love the movie Rock. He saw
it in the theater as like a eleven year old
or something and showed it to my son several years ago,
and I'd never thought about it this way before. But
his mom came in the house after we finished the
movie and he said, you realize your dad just tricked
you into watching a love story. It is a love
story more than an anything else, really, and a character study.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And it's a movie about losers who find a well
at least one of them who finds a purpose and love.
As it turns out, good movie, Yeah, yeah, wonderful. Anyway,
speaking of AI, as we were tangentially at least, do
you remember when the story came out that there are
some articles in Sports Illustrated's website that appeared to have
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been generated by AI. And then there were as well.
This website writes, we first heard of this company ad Von.
Who is what we're going to be talking about ad Von.
Commerce first heard of Advon last year after staff at
Gannett noticed product reviews getting published on the website of
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USA Today with bylines that did not seem to correspond
to real people.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
The article product reviews is a problem if they're AI.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, and these were like product reviews in USA Today.
The articles were stilted in formulaic, leading the writers' union
to use them of being shoddy. AI it's quote when
Gannett blamed the strange articles on Advon, we started digging.
We soon found Edvon been running a similar operation at
the magazine Sports Illustrated, publishing product reviews using bylines of
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fake writers with fictional biographies and AI generated profile pictures.
The response was explosive. The magazine's union wrote that it
was horrified, while its publisher cut ties with Advon and
subsequently fired at CEO before losing the rights to Sports
Illustrated entirely Now. Ad Von disputed that the buylines were
fake the profile pictures had been AI generated, but it
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insisted in both USA Today and Sports Illustrated that the
actual articles had been written by actual humans. And so
these people dug into it and spent months investigating Advon
by interviewing current and former workers, obtaining internal documents and more.
They write, what we found should alarm anyone who cares
about a trustworthy and ethical media industry. Yeah, in theory, right,
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we'd like a trustworthy and ethical media industry basically, Advon
engages in what Google calls site reputation abuse. It strikes
deals with publishers in which it provides huge numbers of
extremely low quality product reviews, often for surprisingly prominent publications,
intended to pull in traffic from people googling things like
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best abroll a.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Right, I have discovered that searching best this or that
is practically worse, worthless in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I am just starting to get hip to that. So
the idea seems to be that visitors who are looking
for best ab roller will be fooled into thinking the
recommendations were made by the publication's actual journalists, and then
they'll click on one of the article's affiliate links. I
just did this the other day. Fool you, fool, kicking
back a little money if they make a purchase. And
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it's a practice that blurs the line between journalism and
advertising to the break point, makes the worst of the
web worse for everybody, and renders basic questions like is
this writer a real person?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Fuzzier and fuzzier. You know, first of all, those stilted
and whatever the words were reviews won't be that in
six months or a year. Oh yeah, clunky, yeah, right.
And then secondly you said the other day, maybe this
is what's going to end the Internet. We've been wanting
to unplug the Internet forever. Maybe it becomes so full
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of just crap reviews, crap books, made up news stories.
I mean, you can't search on any topic where half
the things you get are just completely made up, right,
that it'll be worthless.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And I wish I had it in front of me,
that wonderful paragraph I quoted where the guy was talking
about you will get on the Internet and have no
idea if what you see is you talking to a bot,
abot talking to a bot abot talking to AI, an
AI bot talking to a human who's responding to a
different bot, and just it'll be worthless. There won't be
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any point because you'll completely lose faith you should that
you're engaging with humans.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I wonder if anybody's done this yet. It'll happen at
some point, gotten a trend started through AI. I was
just thinking of like an album or a clothing style
or anything that you like get under Reddit and Instagram
and all these different things. Oh have you have you
listened to You should do this with your own band.
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Have you listened to blah blah blah, it's the greatest
thing since this or whatever, and and just populate it
with You could do a whole Reddit thread where you
have like five hundred people reply, all with different names,
all written in different ways. Oh yeah, I just got
it and it was fantastic. You might sell ten thousand
albums that day, right, right, or get ten thousand downloads.
I guess in the modern rule, maybe albums is a
(24:47):
bad idea. But you know your stocking cap. Oh it's
so hot, you know, yeah, yeah, clothing item. So this restaurant,
you got it? Maybe it is already happening.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It is, it is, Yeah, I don't know how prevalent
it is.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm not the guy to ask, but it's happening. If
you hit TikTok, Instagram, Reddit and other stuff that I
haven't heard of because I'm old, Discord or whatever, Twitch whatever,
young people doing all with a whole bunch of fake
reviews of a restaurant in one weekend in a big city, right,
nobody would know on air meeting.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Why aren't we doing this right now Forrdy Armstrong show
story exactly before everybody catches on?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That is a good idea, all right, back to the air.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So these ADVON people are denying all this but getting
back to this author. But looking at the evidence, it's
hard to believe. Consider a training video provided to us
by an insider at the company. In it, an ADVON
manager shares her screen showing a content management system hosted
on the company's website. In the video, the manager uses
the CMS, which is what does that stand for? Again?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's some computer thing to open.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And edit a list of product recommendations titled best Yoga
mat and bylined by one of the fake Sports Illustrated writers,
Damon Ward.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
The article's source.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
According to the field in the CMS, is AI. Like
the other fake writers at Sports Illustrated, we found Ward's
profile picture listed for sale on a site that sells
AI generated headshots.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Boy, that site's not going to be in business too long.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You can do it for yourself, where he's described as
a quote joyful black young adult male with short, black
hair and brown eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, this is going to be a hard thing to navigate.
I don't Is there a way this doesn't make the
Internet almost unusable? I think it does, and I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
This might have been our hot link yesterday or at
some point maybe we can repost it today. It's pages
and pages long, and I'm going to read the whole thing,
but just scratching the surface. That's such an interesting idea.
Will this so ruin social media?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Evil?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, good ruining online searches? I wonder if there
will emerge a pure search engine, probably already has that
says we'll never use any AI generator.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But could you could? Could you do that? I don't know,
I don't know. Could you keep it out? How would
you keep it out?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You might as well ask my dog about the difference
between a V eight engine and a straight six. I will,
but well you might as well.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well if there's a way to do that, then yes,
Google or somebody will have to go that direction. But
I'm not I can't imagine how there is a way.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
My understanding is that the AI detection systems are about
an inch in front of the AI generating system.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't have any confidence that the ability to detect
AI and video and especially in the written word, is
gonna work. But yeah, a social media if if half
the hot chicks on Instagram posing in front of the
Grand Canyon in you know, uh tank tops are fake?
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How's any Why is anybody gonna care.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Excuse me, hang on a second. I changed it to
tube top. Okay, it's a sexier top. Okay, yeah, yeah,
which all leads to this, their return to the primacy
of radio, particularly and newspapers and classified ads, restaurant reviews. Yeah,
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unless they're using AI to turn them out too.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Does that make maybe make Maybe it brings back the
gate keepers. She'll have to be you actually know that. Boy,
this isn't trying. I can't come up with a modern
example because they've been driven out by the way the
world works now. Back in the day, Siskel and Ebert
were the biggest movie reviewers in America. They had a
TV show, and everybody wants them because they believe their
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opinion to thumbs up. Maybe that sort of thing comes back,
because you'll have gatekeepers. I know those people exist. I've
seen them on television every single week. I've read their
column they've been around, I've seen their wives and kids.
I know they exist. So I won't waste my time
on five million pages of fake movie reviews. I'll just
go to the gatekeeper there, And I wonder if that'll happen,
for it'll go back to that they're trusted voices in sports, politics, everything,
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until AAI gets really good at generating them. I suppose
of them in what way? Do you mean such a
convenient fake human that you think they're real? Yeah, well,
there's got to be some way to actually know people
are real. I mean, you'd become so big that you're real.
You've seen them on Jimmy fallon, They've walked out on
the stage. I mean, it's easily through CGI. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm telling you many many eons ago, God was in
heaven inspiring the book of Genesis, and Jesus said, thank you,
Donald Trump, well theologian Donald Trump there.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And Jesus said to him, a pop that whole treeon
knowledge thing? What's that all about? And and the Father
said Ai. And Jesus said, what's AI? And God the
Father said yes, soon enough, you'll find out soon enough.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
All these eons Jesus has been saying, what like, we're
acting like two different people. Do you not understand the Trinity?
It's a metaphor. So Jesus is talking to God, when's
this gonna happen? And God keeps saying, wait for it,
wait for it, and wait for it. Oh I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh, I got his led Zeppelin and Jimmy Carter here,
when's this ai that wait for it.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We'll finish strong next is heeing up next week. Michael
Cohen on the stand in the storm of Daniel's trial.
That is going to be awesome, especially the cross examination
Stormy Daniels trial, calling it that and uh, there's going
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to be fallout from this whole Biden holding back the
bomb's story and Israel's going in, so that'll be a
big next week. Next week.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Also a note to self, Judy says, we're not going
to get any more dogs after Baxter goes, but I'm
getting me one of them fake panda dogs.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Gotta have really cut off the dogs. I understand that
decision completely.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Well, not never, but she said, look, let's just give
it a while and see how we like the lifestyle.
If we can go and do anything anytime we want.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's why my parents have been like, if we finally
are too old, I don't know when that would because
my dad's eighty six. Like, when we finally are just
home bound, then we'll get a dog. But until then,
no dog.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm gonna have to go to some sort of rehab
or dog's anonymous or something. But anyway, so we're talking
about this Advon group that cranks out fake reviews and
fake journalism and the rest of it, then denies it.
It's very weird and insidious. Might lead to the end
of the Internet, would be a good thing, But I
love this. The quality of Advon's work is often so
dismal that it's jarring to see it published by respective
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publications like USA Today sports illustrator mcclatchy's many local newspapers.
Its reviews are packed with filler and truisms, and sometimes
include bizarre mistakes that make it difficult to believe a
human ever seriously reviewed the draft before publication. Take a
piece Advon published in Washington's Tacoma News Tribune. The review
is for a weightlifting belt, which is a fitness device
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you strap on outside you close to offer backsupport blah
blah when lifting weights at the gym, obviously, But when
the author, who calls themselves a belt expert in the piece,
arrives at the blah blah blah leyden buying guide section,
the review abruptly switches talking about regular belts for clothing,
advising that their quote primary purpose is holding your trousers
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up or your genes and that they serve as quote,
an important part of your overall outfit, adding style in
a personal touch.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wow, like it forgets it's.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Talking about weight belts and just it's talking about pagin belts.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's mid review.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Thought.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the week, starting with Michaelangelore
Technical director Michael oh Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I'm glad you weren't more seriously hurt, but I do
like the idea of you getting a trike bicycle right
and putting big goggles on yep, big leather vest guy
Yarrow Beard Jakes dig the trite maybe really old chicks Speaking.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Of women, folk are esteemed to use woman Katie Green
as a final thought.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Katie, and that final thought brings me to my final
thought from yesterday.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
If you get the three wheeled motorcycle, you get the sidecar.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
You could put the dressed up.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cat in the sidecar.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Funny YouTube video. Oh Man Jack a final thought for us,
I certainly don't like the experience of the motorcycle wreck
I had yesterday. It's an hour or two if you
want to check out the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
But I feel like a near death or near horrifying
injury experience every night and then is like good for
the soul somehow kind of like I don't know. It
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energizes you, thinks about what you like to do, what
you don't like to do. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, the old near death accidentally becomes actual death sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, my final thought, I'll make it this, I'm glad
you're all right. I'm far too old and lazy audition
co hosts so well not to mention that. Just glad
you're all right. I'm glad, I'm all right. So far
we're all all right. Isn't the words of cheap trick.
We're all all right, We're all all right.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Armstrong and Getty wraping about other grueling four hour work.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
There so many people to thanks, so little time in do.
We have some great clicks for you at hot links
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Speaker 2 (34:44):
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God bless America, Armstrong.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
And this has to stop, and it has to stomp
like the day before yesterday.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That is asked back personally. This is the sort of
original sin. This is horrible, this is insane.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You can look at a half cup, half couping empty.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Lighting up, Francis, I think that you may be overegging
the pudding a bit.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
A great Friday you mother, the Armstrong and Gaddy
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Somebody wants to start a gofund me for my uber
driver I had yesterday who picks up a bloody guy
right after a motorcycle wreck and got blood inside his
car and was like perfectly cool with it. What a
good dude. Yeah. I got really lucky with my uber
driver because a lot of other people wouldn't have picked
me up at all, especially where I was because he
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had to pull over on and off him, but and
then bleeding inside his car.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And he wasn't driving one of those what was that
that funky cube shape thing that I'm sure they still
sell where you could like hose it off the inside.
The youngsters who liked to camp and stuff had Yeah, me,
I see somebody buy one of those. I make sure
they're not a psycho killer that had The cops ought
to just routinely question people who own those, think about it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I am. I went for the cheapest uber ride thinking
it might be kind of a crappy car, because sometimes
they are. I didn't go because sometimes they go for
like the comfort or whatever, which is a nicer car,
because I knew I was bleeding everywhere, yeah, and all dirty,
so I got lucky. It was kind of a beat
up like Toyota Camra which and he wipes the blood off.
It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, So before we launch into cow, just when we're
thought the U, I guess it was the Today Show.
There's that story about the Chinese painting chow dogs to
look like pandas, and somebody got some footage of several
of them running around. And as I said earlier, if
you could figure out how to breed a dog that
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looked like that, you'd be a trillionaire. You'd have more
money than Apple. But they've run that footage of those
little panda looking dogs like twenty times this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So does the Chinese population actually fall forward or you
just got You can't complain to anybody because it ends
up on your social credit score. Don't complain about the
probably government run zoo. I suppose. I wonder if that's
part of it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, although China the easy thing to forget about China,
and I have not traveled there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I wish I had back.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, before relations got as chilly as they are
now and our.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Boss was just there for two weeks and loved it. Yeah,
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just I wonder whether I don't know if they
I know that Chinese have a file on me, because
they've got a file like on anybody.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Right now, I would want to fairly high profiles. So
if I ever travel someplace again that's not set up
for tourism, which China isn't according to our boss. Uh,
just like when I went to Russia, I will only
do it if I'm with somebody that's from there. Yeah,
you got to a guide because otherwise it's just you
can't enjoy it, right too stressful. Well, I don't know
about stressful, but even just like if there nobody speaks
(02:45):
English and there are no signs in English and you
walk into a museum, a restaurant whatever. I tried to
order coffee when I was Russia. I was there for
like forty five minutes and just left because what am
I gonna do? Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Wow reminds me of a Cuban cafe I went to
in Fort Myers a couple of years ago with my
buddy Brian. The umpire is there for a spring break
or spring training, and you.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Went for spring break with a dude.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well it's out now anyway, that's you know what, It's
a relief. But we had a closet, do you see, No, No,
so we had to we had to find somebody who's
bilingual in line to translate or order because there was
not a single English speaker on staff at this bakery
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cafe in Aflorica in Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, it's crazy, But when I went to Italy with
my friend Giuseppe, who lived there is from Siena, it
was awesome. He sends me to all like the best restaurants,
like cool little places you would never go to, knew
how to speak the language, could order. I mean, it
was so much more fun.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah. Likewise, our friend Drew, who was stationed in Mexico
City for a number of years with the FBI and
speaks fluent Spanish, we would go way off the beaten
path and he was super good. Not only he talked
to locals about, Hey, where do you like to have lunch?
And that's where we'd end up. And plus, if you
know the language, you can sense trouble coming way earlier.
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Oh absolutely, yeah, I mean, and it's not like you
over here. Let's hit them over the head and take
their money. No, you can just better sense that. Okay,
everybody's a little uncomfortable here. Why you know, just that
sixth sense part of that's language. Anyway, we have a
lot to squeeze into. It's the last dang hour of
the week. But first let's take a fun look back
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at the very week we're discussing. It's cow clips of
the week and worm orange turn.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How was the goat that is? Ass backus whips of
the week?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Here's a little ditty about choosing hermus Just.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Days after Columbia University called Indian YPD, the school now
canceling the main ceremony. You see all these little gazas
out there on campuses. It's strong and property. There's not
peaceful protest. It's against the law. But I thought this
was about peace. What am I missing here? These are
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degenerate savages.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
How am off We're not going to supply the weapons
and the artillery shells.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Use that have been used artillery shells as well. Yeah,
tillary shell This is insane.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh and I said, and I didn't want to see
I didn't want to look and see how bad it was.
I didn't know if like my kneecap was hanging off
or what. Oh boy, we're working expeditiously. What does that mean?
Though we're very short order, we'll have the What does
short order mean?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Our two biggest government programs, social Security and medicare the
thing that seniors that matters to seniors.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The most, are both headed towards insolvency.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, the uh.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Boy, Scouts of America is changing its name soon to
be known as Scouting America.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So the I mean again, some of this stuff gets
they workplace romances or as American as Apple path. Uh
So you did not meet with Kim Jong un, that's
what you're saying. No, I met with many, many world leaders.
Constitution is much more important than jail. It's setting and close.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared really quite tense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
She testified Trump was on the bed in his boxer
shorts and t shirt. Utterly irrelevant Orange turn forgive the
puns straight from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
To swim Trump, This is one of the low moments
in American history.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared tense, relax it'll be easier.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'd have told her as her lawyer, Wow, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I got this text about my motorcycle wrecks a couple
of these. I'll mention this Jack yesterday, when you said
that you rode your motorcycle to work, I immediately thought, dude,
you're a single dad with two kids. What the effort
you're doing riding a motorcycle at this point in your life.
I get that from people non motorcycle riders now, and
then this somehow perception that has come through culture or
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something that like riding a motorcycle gives you like a
fifty to fifty chance of dying or something. I don't know.
I don't know what that is. You're very unlikely to
die in a car wrecked, and then you're you're slightly
more likely to die in a wreck if you ride
a motorcycle, but it's still incredibly unlikely. And you know,
there's lots of things you can do or dangerous. It's
more dangerous and not riding a motorcycle. But one of
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the decisions I got to make is I'm more worried
about just the pain of getting hurt than dying, you know,
or like hurting my leg in some way that I
can't ride bicycles or run or whatever. That's a tough
one as you as you as you get older in life.
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Like my dad didn't stop riding his horse till he
was eighty two, and it was very important to him.
It was part of his life, yes, and uh, and
it was a big deal for him to stop. And
he had a couple of bad crashes as god, he
was like seventy five when he had to get back
on his horse with the broken pelvis and ride four
hours back to the highway before he could get to
the hospital. But you know, do you want depends on
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who your how you're built and everything like that. But
do you do you want to go for ultimate safety
comfort avoid problems? I mean, and everybody's got a different line.
I got. I know a guy who's got two kids
who is a base jumper. Now, to me, that's pretty
out there because it's it's like a lot closer to
like half a base jumper's dying. I mean that that
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happens a lot like he's I know he's been to
tons of funerals of friends or base jeppers. But you know,
I don't I don't know. I don't know how you
make those decisions. Everybody's got to make it for themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, and a purely academic analysis, you should clearly stop
even if it's unlikely it's an unnecessary risk, but if
it means a lot to you, like it meant a
lot to your dad at some point, you know, I'm
sitting right in front of my famous poster, don't be
so obsessed with not dying that you forget to live.
It has an elk on it, because of course it
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has an elk on it, right.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's a good look at elcaty.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Anyway, Sorry, I got distracted what we were talking about.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Everybody has to make that decision for themselves. Yeah yeah.
Are you going to keep skiing or you know whatever
you're whatever it is you're going to do eating and
drinking a certain way. I mean, you could live a
life where you eliminate all of the things that could
you do you damage? Is that what you want? Is
that what you own your life to be?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Everybody has to decide on their own, like you said. Yeah,
I've told this story before, but my sweet wife, Cleverly,
when she was pregnant with our third kid, I was saying,
you know, I'm thinking about selling my motorcycle and not
riding anymore because three kids, as I've said many times,
leaving uh two kids fatherless is horrifying. Three is unconscionable.
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And so she said, well, why don't you use the
money you spend on the motorcycle and the insurance and everything.
I'm playing golf. And I said, whoa, wait a minute,
that's that much money, you know what, that's a deal.
And of course our third kid was born. I didn't
see the business end of a golf club for quite
some time.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was a clever maneuver. Yeah, well, your thoughts on
any of this you can always text us four one five,
two nine five KFTC. The most interesting thing a part
about the motorcycle reckon if you want to hear it
was an hour two told the whole story, But was
the spinning as I rolled down the highway that was
the most interesting part. Was just the how fast that
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was going and the thoughts going through my head as
I was just going, wow, like, you don't have any
idea how long that lasted. So you're like still in
riding position, but sideways under your bike. Now the bike
was gone, it had slid off, okay, and I'm on
my own. I'm just I'm just rolling down the highway.
Oh yeah, really really fast though, like so fast. It
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was like sunlight pavement, sunlight payment, just really really fast,
like a little kid rolling down a hell. And I
don't have like any idea if that was five seconds
or a half a second or what, But I I wrote,
there are many revolutions in that period. Given the shape
of you, it could have gone on for quite some time,
gone around roundish ball like physique. But that was it
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was just weird and then and then and then the
ability of the mind to like think a whole bunch
of things. Right, this, this could be the moment I die.
I don't think it probably is, but it certainly could be.
If you know, there's a telephone pole here or right,
I hope the other motorists see me. Yeah, I hope
I don't get run over from behind. Yeah. And then also,
am I gonna make it home in time to pick
up Henry from school? Just that mundane thought, Wow, Yeah,
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it's weird how the brain works. Wow. AnyWho, what are
some things we haven't commented on enough of the week,
Like you said, earlier when we were the Clips of
the week thing. It's like, oh, that's right, the governors
South they go to shot her dog. That seems like
it was three months ago. I know it. Having gone
through the stormy Daniel's trying a couple other things.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hey, do you remember that story when somebody figured out
that AI was writing some of the content for Sports
Illustrated and like one other publication.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And it was seen as a horror or well, it
kind of is.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I ran into a great article from tech related investigative
investigative website who's looking into the company behind that, and
what they learned is really a little scary. I think
the AI juggernaut is upon us already.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's not hard to pull the string and wind me
up on AI, as you know.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
So we can talk about that and other things on
the way.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
After a bunch of people saying that they quit riding
motorcycles because of their kids and everything, cool, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
After motorcycle accident, I thought about not riding a game,
but I realized I had too much money invested in
t shirts and tattoos and just you know, it's a
song costs.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So our initial notion was to play some of the
Stormy Daniels analysis. We haven't played yet today and we
will get to that in a second if we have time.
But just saw in the kitchen launch or luncher and
whatever you want to call it, that David Cameron, who's
now the foreman foreign foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of
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the UK, should rehearsed it. He's come out and said
the UK will not be following the US's lead. We
will not deny arms to Israel. So whops, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And France said the other day that they do not
support Israel going into Rafa. So once again the surrender
eating the cheese eating surrender monkeys of France who have trees,
So the Germans can march in the shade, no unfortunate
as opposed to the Brits and the news that came
out just a little bit ago, the UN General Assembly
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overwhelmingly voted to support a Palestinian state. The US opposed it,
which is enough to keep it from happening.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
They've been offered one repeatedly and turned it down. But
so Biden's ambassador though still voted. Now no Palestinian state,
even with all the talk that's going on. So as
long as we're talking about that, let's hear a couple
of the clips again commenting on that. We'll start with
Mitch McConnell number fifty two. Do we still have that
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older Biden clip that we played from yesterday, Michael craming
a lot fired up? Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Pavilions have been killed in Gaza as a consequence of
those bombs. But it's just wrong. We're not going to
supply the weapons and the artillery shells used. I've made
it clear to bb in the Workhabinet, they're not going
to get our support if in fact they're going these
population centers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's wrong that Hamas hides in them, you jackass.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. The fact that he did not include those caveats, disclaimers,
whatever you'd call that, is horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, Hamas is evil.
That's what he should have said. Hamas is evil. They
hide among the population to try to protect themselves. They
don't care about the women and children of Palestine.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And if they die, well, they care in that more
civilian casualties helps them end the Israeli attacks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So they're in favor of it, so merely from the
politics of it. Even if he is going to have
the same policy for the politics of it. He should
have said that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
How much time do we have, Michael got about a minute,
give me, Lindsey Graham fifty three.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
What you're doing is you're saying Hamas has put Palestinians
into the crosshairs of Israel, so stand Israel down. That's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life,
is that you tell the person who's about to be
wiped off the map, you got to slow down because
your enemy is making it hard on the Palestinian people
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to survive because they choose to put them in arms away.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That is ass backwards.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Just heard Ari Fleischer say Israel is fighting for survival,
Joe Biden is fighting for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oof. I thought that was good. Yeah, And I saw
some analysis that said what Joe Biden's trying to do
is a force bb to the negotiating table, the idea
that you can negotiate with Hamas. Yeah, Hamas just.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Gloried in, gloated in We've been pretending to be a
responsible government, like we could negotiate for a long time
and we love them to sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Then we slaughtered them. Same guys you want them to
negotiate with those guys are strong and getty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They don't even allow these to today. They don't even
allow these today because they're so dangerous, But that's what
they used when I did the film. They're barely six ounces,
they're rays, and they're literally lethal. So I still have
them because it's a time when people were tougher.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Sorry they were.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Life is just getting a little easier and easier and easier.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And oh that's great, it's wonderful, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think when we force ourselves into tough situations, that's
what the human creature is supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
They're not supposed to.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Have wheels on their suitcases.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They're not supposed to have long bowers.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Of ages that pull them along as it can be.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It's no question, but it just makes things easier. Now
with AI, you can let it, put your brain in
the pickle jar and have that machine do it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So I cherished these moments. I cherish hard work, even
though I hate it. I know it's like, hmmm, strong medicine.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Tastes horrible going down, but it makes you feel better,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Sly. That's Sylvester Stallone, famous actor mostly for the movie
Rocky originally which won Best Picture Oscar back in nineteen
seventy six.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I think mm hmm, then many other hit films afterwards.
But Sly, I'm with you on your conclusion. You're one
hundred percent right about AI.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I didn't. I would point on the self propelled lawnmower.
I wouldn't do self prepared lawnmower. I never did that.
But you lost me at wheels on the luggage. You're
not sure I'm gonna I'm not sure I'm going to
give up wheels on the luggage.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Back to before, you know, back in the day lugging
the suitcases through the airport. Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But his overall point is definitely true. The longer I live,
the more clear it seems. The old cyclical you know, Bromide,
it's practical, practically a cliche that hard times make for
tough people, Tough people make for good times, good times
make for soft people. Soft people make for bad times.
(19:28):
Bad times make for tough people. Tough people make There's
just I don't know that there's any avoiding it. You
can delay it with like having the greatest military ever
seen on the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
For a while. I love the movie Rock. He saw
it in the theater as like a eleven year old
or something and showed it to my son several years ago,
and I'd never thought about it this way before. But
his mom came in the house after we finished the
movie and he said, you realize your dad just tricked
you into watching a love story. It is a love
story more than an anything else, really, and a character study.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And it's a movie about losers who find a well
at least one of them who finds a purpose and love.
As it turns out, good movie, Yeah, yeah, wonderful. Anyway,
speaking of AI, as we were tangentially at least, do
you remember when the story came out that there are
some articles in Sports Illustrated's website that appeared to have
(20:25):
been generated by AI. And then there were as well.
This website writes, we first heard of this company ad Von.
Who is what we're going to be talking about ad Von.
Commerce first heard of Advon last year after staff at
Gannett noticed product reviews getting published on the website of
(20:45):
USA Today with bylines that did not seem to correspond
to real people.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
The article product reviews is a problem if they're AI.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, and these were like product reviews in USA Today.
The articles were stilted in formulaic, leading the writers' union
to use them of being shoddy. AI it's quote when
Gannett blamed the strange articles on Advon, we started digging.
We soon found Edvon been running a similar operation at
the magazine Sports Illustrated, publishing product reviews using bylines of
(21:13):
fake writers with fictional biographies and AI generated profile pictures.
The response was explosive. The magazine's union wrote that it
was horrified, while its publisher cut ties with Advon and
subsequently fired at CEO before losing the rights to Sports
Illustrated entirely Now. Ad Von disputed that the buylines were
fake the profile pictures had been AI generated, but it
(21:37):
insisted in both USA Today and Sports Illustrated that the
actual articles had been written by actual humans. And so
these people dug into it and spent months investigating Advon
by interviewing current and former workers, obtaining internal documents and more.
They write, what we found should alarm anyone who cares
about a trustworthy and ethical media industry. Yeah, in theory, right,
(22:05):
we'd like a trustworthy and ethical media industry basically, Advon
engages in what Google calls site reputation abuse. It strikes
deals with publishers in which it provides huge numbers of
extremely low quality product reviews, often for surprisingly prominent publications,
intended to pull in traffic from people googling things like
(22:26):
best abroll a.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Right, I have discovered that searching best this or that
is practically worse, worthless in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I am just starting to get hip to that. So
the idea seems to be that visitors who are looking
for best ab roller will be fooled into thinking the
recommendations were made by the publication's actual journalists, and then
they'll click on one of the article's affiliate links. I
just did this the other day. Fool you, fool, kicking
back a little money if they make a purchase. And
(22:56):
it's a practice that blurs the line between journalism and
advertising to the break point, makes the worst of the
web worse for everybody, and renders basic questions like is
this writer a real person?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Fuzzier and fuzzier. You know, first of all, those stilted
and whatever the words were reviews won't be that in
six months or a year. Oh yeah, clunky, yeah, right.
And then secondly you said the other day, maybe this
is what's going to end the Internet. We've been wanting
to unplug the Internet forever. Maybe it becomes so full
(23:28):
of just crap reviews, crap books, made up news stories.
I mean, you can't search on any topic where half
the things you get are just completely made up, right,
that it'll be worthless.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And I wish I had it in front of me,
that wonderful paragraph I quoted where the guy was talking
about you will get on the Internet and have no
idea if what you see is you talking to a bot,
abot talking to a bot abot talking to AI, an
AI bot talking to a human who's responding to a
different bot, and just it'll be worthless. There won't be
(24:01):
any point because you'll completely lose faith you should that
you're engaging with humans.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I wonder if anybody's done this yet. It'll happen at
some point, gotten a trend started through AI. I was
just thinking of like an album or a clothing style
or anything that you like get under Reddit and Instagram
and all these different things. Oh have you have you
listened to You should do this with your own band.
(24:27):
Have you listened to blah blah blah, it's the greatest
thing since this or whatever, and and just populate it
with You could do a whole Reddit thread where you
have like five hundred people reply, all with different names,
all written in different ways. Oh yeah, I just got
it and it was fantastic. You might sell ten thousand
albums that day, right, right, or get ten thousand downloads.
I guess in the modern rule, maybe albums is a
(24:47):
bad idea. But you know your stocking cap. Oh it's
so hot, you know, yeah, yeah, clothing item. So this restaurant,
you got it? Maybe it is already happening.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It is, it is, Yeah, I don't know how prevalent
it is.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm not the guy to ask, but it's happening. If
you hit TikTok, Instagram, Reddit and other stuff that I
haven't heard of because I'm old, Discord or whatever, Twitch whatever,
young people doing all with a whole bunch of fake
reviews of a restaurant in one weekend in a big city, right,
nobody would know on air meeting.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Why aren't we doing this right now Forrdy Armstrong show
story exactly before everybody catches on?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That is a good idea, all right, back to the air.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So these ADVON people are denying all this but getting
back to this author. But looking at the evidence, it's
hard to believe. Consider a training video provided to us
by an insider at the company. In it, an ADVON
manager shares her screen showing a content management system hosted
on the company's website. In the video, the manager uses
the CMS, which is what does that stand for? Again?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's some computer thing to open.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And edit a list of product recommendations titled best Yoga
mat and bylined by one of the fake Sports Illustrated writers,
Damon Ward.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
The article's source.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
According to the field in the CMS, is AI. Like
the other fake writers at Sports Illustrated, we found Ward's
profile picture listed for sale on a site that sells
AI generated headshots.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Boy, that site's not going to be in business too long.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You can do it for yourself, where he's described as
a quote joyful black young adult male with short, black
hair and brown eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, this is going to be a hard thing to navigate.
I don't Is there a way this doesn't make the
Internet almost unusable? I think it does, and I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
This might have been our hot link yesterday or at
some point maybe we can repost it today. It's pages
and pages long, and I'm going to read the whole thing,
but just scratching the surface. That's such an interesting idea.
Will this so ruin social media?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Evil?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, good ruining online searches? I wonder if there
will emerge a pure search engine, probably already has that
says we'll never use any AI generator.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But could you could? Could you do that? I don't know,
I don't know. Could you keep it out? How would
you keep it out?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You might as well ask my dog about the difference
between a V eight engine and a straight six. I will,
but well you might as well.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well if there's a way to do that, then yes,
Google or somebody will have to go that direction. But
I'm not I can't imagine how there is a way.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
My understanding is that the AI detection systems are about
an inch in front of the AI generating system.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't have any confidence that the ability to detect
AI and video and especially in the written word, is
gonna work. But yeah, a social media if if half
the hot chicks on Instagram posing in front of the
Grand Canyon in you know, uh tank tops are fake?
(28:06):
How's any Why is anybody gonna care.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Excuse me, hang on a second. I changed it to
tube top. Okay, it's a sexier top. Okay, yeah, yeah,
which all leads to this, their return to the primacy
of radio, particularly and newspapers and classified ads, restaurant reviews. Yeah,
(28:33):
unless they're using AI to turn them out too.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Does that make maybe make Maybe it brings back the
gate keepers. She'll have to be you actually know that. Boy,
this isn't trying. I can't come up with a modern
example because they've been driven out by the way the
world works now. Back in the day, Siskel and Ebert
were the biggest movie reviewers in America. They had a
TV show, and everybody wants them because they believe their
(29:01):
opinion to thumbs up. Maybe that sort of thing comes back,
because you'll have gatekeepers. I know those people exist. I've
seen them on television every single week. I've read their
column they've been around, I've seen their wives and kids.
I know they exist. So I won't waste my time
on five million pages of fake movie reviews. I'll just
go to the gatekeeper there, And I wonder if that'll happen,
for it'll go back to that they're trusted voices in sports, politics, everything,
(29:25):
until AAI gets really good at generating them. I suppose
of them in what way? Do you mean such a
convenient fake human that you think they're real? Yeah, well,
there's got to be some way to actually know people
are real. I mean, you'd become so big that you're real.
You've seen them on Jimmy fallon, They've walked out on
the stage. I mean, it's easily through CGI. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm telling you many many eons ago, God was in
heaven inspiring the book of Genesis, and Jesus said, thank you,
Donald Trump, well theologian Donald Trump there.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And Jesus said to him, a pop that whole treeon
knowledge thing? What's that all about? And and the Father
said Ai. And Jesus said, what's AI? And God the
Father said yes, soon enough, you'll find out soon enough.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
All these eons Jesus has been saying, what like, we're
acting like two different people. Do you not understand the Trinity?
It's a metaphor. So Jesus is talking to God, when's
this gonna happen? And God keeps saying, wait for it,
wait for it, and wait for it. Oh I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh, I got his led Zeppelin and Jimmy Carter here,
when's this ai that wait for it.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We'll finish strong next is heeing up next week. Michael
Cohen on the stand in the storm of Daniel's trial.
That is going to be awesome, especially the cross examination
Stormy Daniels trial, calling it that and uh, there's going
(31:08):
to be fallout from this whole Biden holding back the
bomb's story and Israel's going in, so that'll be a
big next week. Next week.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Also a note to self, Judy says, we're not going
to get any more dogs after Baxter goes, but I'm
getting me one of them fake panda dogs.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Gotta have really cut off the dogs. I understand that
decision completely.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Well, not never, but she said, look, let's just give
it a while and see how we like the lifestyle.
If we can go and do anything anytime we want.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's why my parents have been like, if we finally
are too old, I don't know when that would because
my dad's eighty six. Like, when we finally are just
home bound, then we'll get a dog. But until then,
no dog.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm gonna have to go to some sort of rehab
or dog's anonymous or something. But anyway, so we're talking
about this Advon group that cranks out fake reviews and
fake journalism and the rest of it, then denies it.
It's very weird and insidious. Might lead to the end
of the Internet, would be a good thing, But I
love this. The quality of Advon's work is often so
dismal that it's jarring to see it published by respective
(32:07):
publications like USA Today sports illustrator mcclatchy's many local newspapers.
Its reviews are packed with filler and truisms, and sometimes
include bizarre mistakes that make it difficult to believe a
human ever seriously reviewed the draft before publication. Take a
piece Advon published in Washington's Tacoma News Tribune. The review
is for a weightlifting belt, which is a fitness device
(32:29):
you strap on outside you close to offer backsupport blah
blah when lifting weights at the gym, obviously, But when
the author, who calls themselves a belt expert in the piece,
arrives at the blah blah blah leyden buying guide section,
the review abruptly switches talking about regular belts for clothing,
advising that their quote primary purpose is holding your trousers
(32:50):
up or your genes and that they serve as quote,
an important part of your overall outfit, adding style in
a personal touch.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wow, like it forgets it's.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Talking about weight belts and just it's talking about pagin belts.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's mid review.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Thought.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the week, starting with Michaelangelore
Technical director Michael oh Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I'm glad you weren't more seriously hurt, but I do
like the idea of you getting a trike bicycle right
and putting big goggles on yep, big leather vest guy
Yarrow Beard Jakes dig the trite maybe really old chicks Speaking.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Of women, folk are esteemed to use woman Katie Green
as a final thought.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Katie, and that final thought brings me to my final
thought from yesterday.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
If you get the three wheeled motorcycle, you get the sidecar.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
You could put the dressed up.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cat in the sidecar.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Funny YouTube video. Oh Man Jack a final thought for us,
I certainly don't like the experience of the motorcycle wreck
I had yesterday. It's an hour or two if you
want to check out the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
But I feel like a near death or near horrifying
injury experience every night and then is like good for
the soul somehow kind of like I don't know. It
(34:04):
energizes you, thinks about what you like to do, what
you don't like to do. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, the old near death accidentally becomes actual death sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, my final thought, I'll make it this, I'm glad
you're all right. I'm far too old and lazy audition
co hosts so well not to mention that. Just glad
you're all right. I'm glad, I'm all right. So far
we're all all right. Isn't the words of cheap trick.
We're all all right, We're all all right.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Armstrong and Getty wraping about other grueling four hour work.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
There so many people to thanks, so little time in do.
We have some great clicks for you at hot links
at Armstrong and Getty dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Again, that's hot links. Drops note over the what when
rfk jr on you there for a second.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
If you see something we ought to be talking about
over the weekend, drop us a note mail bag at
Armstrong at getty dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well you're at the site, pick up some swag. When
RFK Junior on you there for a second, see you Monday.
God bless America, Armstrong.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
And this has to stop, and it has to stomp
like the day before yesterday.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That is asked back personally. This is the sort of
original sin. This is horrible, this is insane.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You can look at a half cup, half couping empty.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Lighting up, Francis, I think that you may be overegging
the pudding a bit.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
A great Friday you mother, the Armstrong and Gaddy
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