Ron talks to the Arbor Doc 11/18/2023

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Good morning everybody. Welcome back.I'm Ron Wilson. You're in the garden.
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It is time for a bifurcation ofsegments, a combo called It's time

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for Weather. It's the weather andit's time for in the trees with our
true seer of sears, prognosticatetur ofpronuxicate Tours Weather predictor Extraordan. They're have
been doing assist he was five yearsold. Weather Channel idolizes the ladies and
gentlemen. He is the man whoinspired the saying trees are good. He
is our registered consulting arborist and amateurmeteorologists website arbordoctor dot com. The one

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the only ronrofie. Everybody has ona climbing belt this morning in harness,
everybody, everybody in the audience,just for you. That's amazing. What

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are they plenty on climbing? Theyaren't. They just brought him in like
a kind of like a dressed upfor Halloween. They're dressed up for the
arbor duct. Well, there yougo. I was very impressed. I'm
surprised that I was impressed. Hey, they're climbing onness. Okay, yeah,
I was too, to be honestwith And they've even got themselves attached

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to the ceiling and all kinds ofstuff, so that's kind of cool.
Anyway, talking with Ron rothis websitearbordoctor dot com, were you out dancing
in the rain yesterday? I wasvery happy. Yes. I mean,
as you pointed out, it wasnot enough in many areas, but every

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a little bit of helps something,so we'll take it. Looks like I
guess, uh, let's do thatfirst. Looking at the forecast for us
locally in Ohio and the Midwest,looks like we do have chances more and
more coming up in the next weekor so of some more showers. Yeah,
there's another weather system coming through thisweek that could give us close to

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ansure in many areas, which willbe very helpful. What's helped us this
this fall, at least in theCincinnati area immediate Cincinnati area, is that
we did have some pretty heavy raintowards the end of October, which puts
some decent moisture in the ground.Of course, yesterday, the seventeenth of

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November, was the first rain thatwe had the entire month. It was
major but at least at my location, so things were dry, although things
don't dry out as fast in Novemberas they do in August or September because
the sun angles lower and it's cooler. But I mean we were we had
a drought, you know, amonth ago, and the soil profile has

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not gotten you know, rewetted fullyabout an inch of rain in the forecast
for many areas this week, soI'm hoping I believe it when it's in
my rain gage, but looks likea pretty good chance this week. Yeah.
Well, and again, you know, if you don't get that,
you know, build on it.That's a great thing, you know,
if before or afterwards add a littlebit more through afterwards, or I put

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some in there beforehand and capture alittle bit more, so you know,
build upon it. But yeah,we'll take whatever we can get out there,
there's no doubt. And as yousend me that drought monitor of the
map this morning, I guess thesouth is really hurting, Yeah, Gary
Buckman Land is really really hurting rightnow, and they've had this for for

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quite a while now, but they'rein extreme drought down there, which is
the worst category of the highest categoryof drought. Really really bad conditions and
virtually the entire state of Louisiana,you know, good part of Mississippi,

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extreme drought extending up really into southernand southeastern Tennessee. And now severe drought
is up into southeast Kentucky with moderndrought in a larger area the southern and
east in Kentucky and southern Indiana.So yeah, I mean the south,
you know, large area is reallyreally dry. So get out in water.

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You're playing for Thursday down there especially. Yeah. Absolutely, Talking with
Ron Roth is his website arbordoctor dotcom. Be sure and check it out.
What you get on his website,you're stuck. I mean it's like
Hotel California. You check in,but you can really never leave. No
exactly exactly, and that's why that'swhere you have the same we have.
By the way, I've been havingsome issues with the website. I mean

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it's it's basically fine, but we'vebeen, uh, well, we're we're
working on a couple of little bugsthat are that are in a couple of
spots, but most of it's good. Hopefully all of it will be good
soon. Yeah, because so wecount on you as far as getting all
the top notch information when Buggy Joeisn't around. Yeah, Buggy Joe,

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I guess it's gone back into hibernationfor the year, so to speak.
So to speak, well more lastYeah, well we'll big amount, all
right, So let's look at uh, let's look at long range here,
or somebody was saying last night thatstorm out on the West coast now starting
to move into the United States.I guess that'll be coming at us here
sometime next week. There is therea chance of the Arctic blast happening here,

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nothing like what we had last yearat the holidays. And in fact,
it's really you know, the computermodels were saying on Thanksgiving we're going
to have highs in the thirties,and they've actually eased up on that a
bit and have us back into theforties in Cincinnati. So highs in the
forties, those in the twenties,that's not really strange for November. It's

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pretty normal really first to get that. So after that, in the next
two weeks there it looks like morecold air is going to come down and
so we could definitely get some someteens. Wouldn't rule out some single digits.
So for the next weeks but Istill don't think it's going to be
anything like what we had last yeararound the holidays. So you know,

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winter's here more or less meteorological winnergets here and what about ten days or
so, uh two weeks? Sonothing nothing extraordinary in that in that realm.
You know for now you've noticed,of course, all the major storm
systems that have been hitting the Westcoast, right mm hm really yeah,

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I haven't. Oh yeah, therehaven't been. And that's I mean,
well that's why they rain out there. That was a trick question. I
know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that that they said that that thatstorm has been sitting out there,
way out there and forever, andyou know now it's finally starting to come
on. So no, they haven't. I think that hurricane that came through

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there was a was a real rarityto right what three weeks ago or whatever
that was over that was over theywas that was weird. I mean,
that was like one of the onlytimes that's ever happened. And you know
what, what isn't happening right now? I mean that sword's been sitting off
the west coast, but it hasn'tbeen moving ashore. They are going to

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get some raine. This week's somehigh elevations in California, but nothing extraordinary.
And we keep hearing in the newsthat we have this super Almenia or
huge Almeno out in the Pacific,you know, with super warm water temperatures
and things. Right, just isn'tthe case, you know, believe it
or not. The news is exaggeratingagain, I'm sure you never happened.

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No, you'd notice that. Yeah, there's actually you know, be better
to classify it as a moderate Amenoout in the in the Pacific. And
you know, not every al Ninohas its own personality because other areas of
ocean water in different parts of theglobe also affect the weather patterns. And

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so this year so far, we'renot getting what you would consider to be
a classic al Aminia pattern. Youknow, California. Yes, there's been
a storm sitting offshore, but whatwe would expect in an Alminia pattern is
for those storms to be slamming underthe West coast and bringing mud slides and
heavy rain and things like that.And that's not happening and it's not forecast
to happen. The jet stream isfurther south, the tropical subtropical jet stream

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is further south than what we wouldnormally expect, and there's what's called a
split flow. The polar jet streamsup north and the subtropicals down south,
and they're not merging. A lotof times they merge. That's not happening.
To the extent that the polar jetstream comes southward, you get cold

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air that makes it in the UnitedStates. The extent that the subtropical jets
stream gets a little bit further north, you get rain or snow. But
you know, right now the SouthernStates are in drought and orlands States,
or you know, they haven't beentoo cold. This week gets colder,
but not anything abnormal. What we'reexpecting is that subtropical jet stream to stay

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really strong, but maybe further southand normal. So storms are going to
start coming through the southern United Statesinto the eastern United States. You know,
Gary Bakman Land for example, lookslike they could start getting more precipitation
as we go through the winter.And as we mentioned, I think the
last time I was on the airwith you, we're expecting our storms to

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move up the East coast and giveus probably a few pretty good snowstorms this
winter. Northeastern type snowstorms. Thatkind of leaves the Ohio Valley in kind
of an odd area where if thosestorms come a little bit further north,
the Ohio Valley could get decent snows. If they stay a little bit further

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south, we could have another winterwith very little and you know, cold
air get pulled down by these storms. So we are expecting as the winter
that get does on, uh,and that you may be weakening later in
the winter too, that that's thetemperatures are going to get colder, because
that's Su'm sorry, the polar jetstream is going to make it for the

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south, and so the eastern partof the United States will be getting progressively
colder as the winter goes on.We's that good chance of more easters going
up the East coast. That's kindof what the weather pattern is for the
for the winter. There's honestly,there's always question marks as to exactly how

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it's going to set up. Butthat's the way it looks like it's going
to set up right now. Andyou heard it from the man Ron Rothas
go to his websites arbordoctor dot com. We'll take a quick break. We
come back a couple of questions forhim. Anything we should do it for
our trees obviously right now besides wateringand uh, we just got a new
update on the USDA Plant Hardiness ZoneMap. We'll talk one a little bit

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about that as well. It's allhappening here in the garden with Ron Wilson
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Ron Roth, this is with usthis morning the arborduc His website is

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arbordoctor dot com. Talking about theweather first of all, and what Ron's
seeing out there for us. We'llfind out his weather. It's going to
be white for Christmas here prediction atthe end of the segment here. But
talking about the weather, and Ithink that was a great explanation about El
Nino. And of course he's kindof going against all the stuff we've been
hearing out there. So again it'sgreat info. Go to his website arbordoctor

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dot com. So on Thursday,I get the new announcement I'm sure you
did as well, the USDA releasingthe twenty twenty three plant Hardiness Zone map.
And well, you know what Idid, was I printed out the
nineteen nineties and then kind of overlaidit with twenty twenty three. Wow,
it's amazing how the zones just continueto move north. Yes, it is.

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And you know one thing, it'sa subtle day on the new map,
but if you go to their interactivemap and blow it up so you
can see in much more fine detail. You know, another area that's moved
into seven A is the Lake Shorearea centered on Cleveland, Ohio, from

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Loraine County up to Lake County.Yeah, well actually been moved into seven
A. There were two yeah,two things that I saw was that,
of course now Ohio has seven Aand the southern eastern tip, so now
we have we have that one.And there's one little spot which is really
weird, right around Mount Vernon thatstill has a five B. I mean

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it's one little dot right in themiddle of the county. But otherwise we
are pretty much totally now six A, six B, seven A at the
very southern tip. Uh. Andthen how Michigan has changed and and in
that area. Uh. But again, what's your language? It's I don't
have any problems saying that. I'msorry, I what can I say?
You know, you know, wellit's not officially that week the day after

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the day, then we'll watch ourlanguage. But anyway, looking at where
they were in nineteen ninety and howthat has all changed as well. But
you know, it's it's there,it's on paper and again we'll get the
Joe's going to get this posted nextweek, so folks can go to the
link. But it's just interesting howthis continues to just get a little bit
warmer and a little bit warmer.Yeah, I always, you know,

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caution people when they warm up theplant the heartiness zones. I don't have
any you know, foundational argument withit. But the last time they did
this, people ran out and startedplanting things as if we were in Atlanta,
Georgia here in the Cincinnati area,and then you get a cold snap

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like we had last year at Christmas, and you know, things get you
know, the cherry laurel gets killedback to the ground and things like that.
So so you have to make itfor what it is. And remember
that we're still a lot further northin Atlanta, Georgia, and if we
get one of these polar vortex arcticblasts that come down, you could still

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struggle with some of these, withsome of these plants. So you just
have to be be careful. Imean, you Cincinnati is in the area
now where they say that the wintertemperatures are going to be what about ten
to fifteen on average something like that. I mean no, I'm sorry,

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I'm going the wrong direction. I'mzero to five or zero to negative five.
Well that's fine, but we gotdown to negative nine negative ten last
just last winter. So you alwayshave to remember that those are average temperatures
and they can still get on occasion, you know, colder than that.
And if you're planting a marginal plant, you're planting a marginal plant, and

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that means some year it could getzapped, as happened last year at christ
Us when we switched over to thezone six out of zone five. And
I still say it to this day. You know, you want to be
really safe garden like it's still zonefive and even as zone fiders, still
is always an opportunity that you knowit's going to change or realize the fact
that, like you said, thoseplants that are you know, zone sixes
and now you get that zone sevencoming into the tip there, but zone

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six plants are could be you know, you get a cold snap and we're
still subject to have that happening asyou said, the further north, and
there's always a chance that you're goingto have some winter damage on this you
should that's just gonna happen, soyou should be aware of that as you're
planting. I agree with you onehundred percent, which is unusual. Oh

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no, that's the other way around. That's the other way around. You
agree with me one hundred percent.All right, we got we got to
the other side. The other sideof the plant hard in the zones is
just that, you know, isthe temper just get warmer in the winter.
They also get warmer in the summer, so we have to think about
you know, and I often wonderwhy don't we have heat hardness zone,
you know, how hot that theycan get, because that's a real limiting

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factor for certain plants too. I'ma sugar maple for example, can't take
the really hot tematus and long growingseasons. Yeah, you know, they
did have that heat zones map thatthey were doing a long time ago,
and that kind of disappeared. Idon't know why, because you're right,
that's just as important, if notmore than the winter dammage. You're the
hearting the zones for the winter time. So I agree with you one hundred
again. Oh my gosh, that'stwice in one show. Ron Roth is

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