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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good morning everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson. You're in the garden.
If you'd like to join us, love to have you
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(00:28):
give us a buzz seven four nine fifty five hundred
here at fifty five krc V talk station our toll
free number eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy.
We are talking about yard ning, working our way through
this month of November, and a lot of us is heat.

(00:50):
We by the way, Joe Strecker off today taking the
time off. Joe, who is that guy again?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Taking this a little time off to him in a
long weekend. So good for Joe. So you're stuck with
Danny and me for the cup of Dan and Ron
and maybe Dick from Dayton and Dick from who knows
who will join us in this cup, but maybe it'll
be you at eight hundred eight three eight two five five. Anyway,
So he's off today. But this week I was out

(01:20):
of town. I had a nice little trip out to
Danny's one of Danny's favorite states, North Carolina, and enjoyed
the trip. Most of the leaves were love my other
home state of North Carolina, his other home state of
North Carolina. Yes, leaves were pretty much dropped about two
thirds three quarters dropped a little bit of fall color

(01:41):
out there, but not much left. But boy, they were
really dropping like crazy. They didn't get as much no
as other areas did, but they did get a little
bit of a dusting, but did get some nice cool
tempts a couple of nights in a row there, and
I like that. And some folks back in Ohio were
sending me pictures of like Columbus and Cincinnati with a

(02:02):
nice little snowfall, which was we missed out on that one,
but I was not. It was nice to be off
a couple of days from here at the right time,
so I didn't have to deal with it. Oh you
were off both of those days. Yeah, Oh man, you
lucked out. I was blessed there, although I can't I
can't imagine the roads were very bad as warm as
it was although Monday morning, yeah, but not terrible, right,

(02:24):
although snow coming down freaks a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Out so correct and calls them to start driving even
more insane than they do around.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Here, crazier than ever. So, you know, so it happened.
It was a quick and quick out and I think
the thing to remember is it's just a reminder from
mother nature that the winter is coming up. You know,
we're winding down for the fall season. But here's here's
the thing. When we got home Thursday afternoon, you know,

(02:51):
the things that we still had outside, and this is
clean up weekend at the Wilson household. Convenient, isn't missus?
Wilson stayed out in Virginia with her sister, and this
is weekend clean up around the patio and entrance plantings.
And I'm the only one at home. How did that
work out? Anyway? He really did a number on anything

(03:12):
that was tropical or annual, but we were they were
all things we were going to get rid of anyway.
But boy, they were just turned to mush like that.
But my point being is this, as you're cleaning out,
finishing up, doing that type of thing, there is still
plenty of time to plant a freeze like that in
a frost and the snow means nothing besides taking out

(03:35):
those annual plants, finishing up the perennials and things like
that that need to have the folly starting to die
back anyway, knocking the rest of those leaves down for
you and getting us ready and prepared going into the
winter season. And you know, the meteorological winter starts December
the first, and that's two weeks away, and of course

(03:56):
then we get late December is when the the one
that you and I recognized most be recognized later in December.
And that's why folks say, well, you know how much
later in the fall can I plant? Well, you know,
falls for planting literally right up until the holiday seasons,
depending on the weather. And so don't let what happened
here with a little bit of snow and cold weather

(04:18):
shut you down from planting. You continue to go right on.
Plants Now they're you know, they've lost their losing their
leaves at the nursing and things like that. They're ready
to go as far as shooting out more roots, and
you still have time to get early root development. And
that's one of the big benefits of planting in the fall,
getting that early minimal it'll be minimal, but you're going

(04:40):
to get them started anyway, rooting in or early settled in,
watered in, settled in and ready to go come next spring.
And typically the temperature going to be their temperatures are cooler,
easier on you, easier on the plant. Soil digging right
now has got it should have some moisture in it
for you, and uh, you know we it just makes

(05:01):
it easier to plant. So again, spring flowering bulbs, tulips, daffodils,
all of the minor bulbs, the crocus, and the snowdrops,
all that. Now is the time to plant. Now is
the time if you if you don't have any of those,
you say, you know, I've I've always wanted to put
a few daffodils out there. And by the way, if
you have deer in your area, you know, within fifty

(05:23):
miles of your house, if you plant or rabbits, if
you plant tulips. For the most part, now some of
the species tulips, they don't seem to bother as much.
But generally, if you plant tulips in your in your
beds and all, and you've got deer and rabbits, they
love them, be honest with you. Uh, you know, it's

(05:43):
I think anymore, we look at tulips in our area anyway,
almost as an annual plan them, you know, put them
in containers, do whatever, and enjoy them in the springtime. Uh,
and a container on the patio, on a table, uh,
maybe in an fenced nd area or whatever. Now, I've
had some folks that have had masses of daffodils and

(06:06):
then threw in some tulip bulbs back into the planting,
so it kind of you know, disguised them back in
the back, so that deer would come alonger rabbits they
don't eat daffodils, and they don't munch on a lot
of the minor bulbs as well. And so if you
hide them back in there, sometimes you can pull off
the tulips without them bothering them. But otherwise, you know,
a lot of a lot of that. And again I

(06:27):
know folks would say, you know, I got I've had
tulips that I plant all the time, and they don't
bother them in my house. But good chance you don't
have as many deer coming through, or it's in a
location where they happen to not notice that they're there.
But they love them. There's no doubt it's candy. So
you know, plant it as an annual planet and the
containers and enjoy them that way. To protect them from
the deer, or do all your stuff. Put fence around them,

(06:50):
put the deer repellents around them, you know, the deer
scram and the liquid fence and all that to try
to keep them moving on. And maybe you can pull
off that spring flowering, those spring flowers on those tulips.
But point being is again that now is the time
for planting and bulbs again. You know you can. You're
gonna find spring flower bulbs in the springtime sold in

(07:13):
containers growing at your garden center. You go in in
the springtime, you're looking for a little bit of color
to add to the patio or whatever, in the table,
in the kitchen or whatever, and they're gonna have daffodils
and tulips and some of the minor bulbs growing in pots.
And they're gonna be a lot more expensive than what
they are when you buy them. Right now, because they're
usually on sale because they're trying to get rid of
them before the end of the season, so you can

(07:35):
scarf those up. Do your own in containers if you
like that. But they're potting them up right now, and
then they're over winterington in cooler area situations and then
bringing them out and having them available for you in
pots next spring, so they charge a little bit more,
so you know your best bang for your buck. And
can you plant those next spring? You can grow them
in the pots, let them flour, feed them while you're

(07:55):
in there, let them grow in the pots. They start
to turn yellow, you pull them out, cut off the foliage,
put them in the ground, and you're good to go.
But why not do that now, save yourself some money.
Plan a lot more balls. And if you think you're
gonna plant fifty, buy one hundred, buy seventy five or
one hundred buy more. More is better. Don't plant them

(08:17):
in a row, plant them in clumps, plant them randomly,
plant them in masses, not in rows like soldiers. But
plant more than what you think, because you're gonna wish
you did once they start to come up and flour.
But this is a great time take advantage of that
taking you know, good prices out there, take advantage of
those those those prices. But again, you got to plant

(08:37):
them in the in the fall, forget to get them
to flower in the spring. They won't be available for
you in the spring unless they're already growing in a container.
That somebody did that in the container in the fall.
So again, plenty of time to do that, plenty of
time to plant trees. Matter of fact, I got a
spot for another tree in our yard, and I think
if I get out this weekend or next week, for
sure I'm going to add one more tree. And I

(08:59):
have no problem planting again as long as weather's permitting
up until the holiday season. Uh, so you're good to go,
So don'll out. All this stuff kind of shut you
off if you've got a lot of things to do now. Uh,
several emails this week about Okay, I bought a bunch
of stuff last week. This weather changed on me. I
got the cold weather. Now, now what do I do

(09:20):
with these things? And should I go ahead and plan
or shut I storm away? What should I do? Well,
we'll answer that question and of course answering your questions
as well. At eight hundred eight two three eight two
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
Now Talking yarding at eight hundred and eight two three

(12:35):
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy. Yes, I do have a little
bit of a head cold. I went out to visit
some family members crazy uncle, Doug and annals and in
some in laws in Virginia, and my uncle sent me
back with his head cold. He said that I gave
it to him. I said, he gave it to me.
You know, my wife got it and then everybody got it.

(12:55):
So we just shared. We just all shared family thing.
You know, you got to give it to me. What
the heck? So trying to kick that bad boy out
of here? Yes, sir, leaves that fog in your head
and Danny had it this week will sinus issue, So
let's be going on. Visited my doctor, and she took
care of it. So that's what doctors are supposed to do. Dan, Yes,

(13:16):
take care of it for you. So I'm glad you're
feeling better. So anyway, talking about yarding and my before
I went to the break, you know, a lot of
times and a lot last week, people sending emails, and
by the way I travel like that. I still answer emails,
but I tried to have as best I can because
I know how important it is to get questions answered.
But you know, I bought these plants, and I didn't

(13:38):
get a plan to announced this is going to happen.
What do I do if it just drops down really
cold one night, or you know, and it comes back
up the next day, It's really not an issue. And
a lot of times I'll just take those plants and
move them up to the foundation of the home or
under and overhang something like that. They get the heat
off the side of the house. Water them. If you
water the plants, that really helps to helps the plants

(14:01):
get it's hydrated, moisture in the soil keeps them a
little bit more cold tolerant, and just let them ride
there until the next day or two days later when
you're able to get back out and plant again. If
it's an extended period of time where something that's really
tender and you're you know, you're afraid to leave it
above ground, I mean, you know, and again it's going

(14:21):
to be a longer period of time. Just move them
inside the unheated garage, unheated shed, in the window, well,
something like that, just to give a little added protection
until the weather moves through. Bring them back out, and
let's still get them planted, all right, So let's still
get them planted. So you know, if you still have
things sitting out there, great. Now, if we get to
a point where you know you're not going to be
able to plant, and you say, okay, I can't do it.

(14:44):
I'm not gonna get this rest of stuff done this year,
you got many options. The easiest option is to find
a place outside, maybe closer to the house, north side,
east side of the house, where the temperature stayed a
little more consistent over the winter, a little more protect
Just trench out an area, set those pots down in
that trench, put the soil around the pots, bring in

(15:06):
some leaves and just pile up around them and melt
them in for the winter. And make sure you water.
Now you get to water them, soak them really well,
maybe water once a month, but just heal them in.
That's what the nursery does basically to overwinter a lot
of their plants. So you can just multamon like that.
Now you can also go back to the unheated garage
or unheated shed. But here's the kicker. Unheated sheds absolutely

(15:28):
or a barn or something like that. But unheated garages
today aren't as cold as they used to be twenty
five years ago with insulated doors. With the insulation today
in garages, if they're attached or whatever, they stay a
lot warmer than they used to. So you've got to
be a little cautious there. So you know, you got

(15:49):
to make sure your garage stays cooler. We want those
plants to stay cold. The reason for bringing them in
the unheated garage or unheated shed is to protect them
from extreme semly cold temperatures and extreme long periods of
cold temperatures. All right, So you know, but it's got
to stay cold, and you want them to stay dormant.

(16:10):
If you bring those plants in there and it warms
up and it's very warm, and the next thing you know,
they're starting to leaf out. What are you going to
do with them? So they've got to stay cold. So
the goal is that, And if you get a stretch
of in January February of days where it starts to
really warm up, check the temperature in your garage to
make sure it's not warming up too much that you know,
you kind of maybe crack a little bit at the

(16:30):
bottom of the garage door to let them cool air
get in there, or open it and close it just
to keep it cooler. The whole goal is to keep
them dormant and cold, but not the extreme temperature exposure
over the winter, all right, And then in the spring,
the real kicker here is watching them because as it
starts to warm up, if those butts start to break

(16:52):
in the garage again too early, what do you do
with them? So, you know, you try to move those
out of the garage or shed or cold frame or
window well or wherever you put them early enough that
they still can sit outside it's not too extreme as
far as the weather and come back to life as
they normally would based on the temperatures that are outside. Right,

(17:16):
once they start to leaf out in the garage. You're
gonna have to protect those until the weather breaks enough
that you can finally get them outside acclamatum and start
the plant. So again, be protective. But you know, and
how soon can I do this? You got to wait
until the temperatures really get consistently colder. And that's not
what it's doing right now. We're next week we're getting

(17:36):
back up into the fifties and sixties again, So you know,
we've got to wait for the temperatures to cool down.
They're gonna be okay sitting outside, but eventually that's your plan.
You're either gonna mault them in for the winter outside
or you're gonna bring them in somewhere that it's a
little more protected. The unheated garage on heated shed, and
we say unheated because it must stay cold enough to
keep those plants dormant all winter long. And that's the

(17:59):
same type of thing with those spring flowering bulbs. They've
got to stay cold. They must experience that cold temperature
but not come back to life during the winter because
of the fact that the garage or whatever it may be,
may warm up. You know, even with cold frames. When
you build a coal frame like that. You know, cold
frames have a top on them that's ventable. They can

(18:19):
heat up, sun hits down and there the next thing
you know, it's seventy degrees inside that cold frame. And
if you're growing something, that's okay, but you still got
a vinit to keep it cool enough to slow that
stuff down. But if you're trying to overwinter a few
things in something like that, be cautious about it. But again,
plenty of time to plant is my point. If you
go to your local independent garden centers right now, I
guarantee you you know, the inventory is not going to

(18:42):
be what it normally would be, but then find things
on sale. They may have things healed in that you're
gonna that you were looking for that they had started
to put away for the winter, but still available for planting.
Landscape crews will continue to plant landscapes right up until
the holidays, as long as the plants are available and
mother nature allows, so you can continue to do the
same thing. Last two tools that I put away at

(19:04):
my house. Of course, the soil knives out all the time,
and so is the square spade, But I always say
the square spade so I can continue to dig transplant,
do whatever I need to do, edge beds and do
things like that to the end of the year. And
the garden hose, And obviously the garden hose is not
attached to the spickett at this time. It's laying next
to it. I hook it up and use it. As
soon as I'm done, I unhook it and turn it off,

(19:26):
take it off of there so it doesn't freeze. On
those nights where it does drop down, they're freezing all right.
So plenty of time to keep planning. Like I say,
a lot of folks asking about that this past a
couple of weeks. And you know, if you've got things
you haven't got planned yet, you still can get the
plant it. If you find out you run out of time,
you can heal them in over the winter, just like
the nursery does, or use your run heat of garages

(19:47):
or sheds and overwin them and bring them back out
in the springtime. As a matter of fact, if you
have some mums right now that you'd left in containers
and you thought, well it'd be nice if I could
grow those next spring, put them in the need a
garage or shed, just like I was talking about, over
winter them in there where's protected? Bring them back out
in the springtime, playing them in the ground. Good chance
they'll be just fine by doing that. All right, quick break,

(20:10):
we come back. We'll be taking your calls at eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. Here in
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Speaker 1 (22:19):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. That
is our number. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening. Uh, getting our way
through the month of November. Can you believe that couple
of weeks we're into Thanksgiving? Woo? Can't wait for the
turkey and mashed potatoes and all of that. You call
it stuffing or dressing? Dan, No, he's gonna. He doesn't

(22:41):
know one or the other. There's all. It's the front
of the side. All right, let's go to the gardening phone.
I was what do you say? Eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five, West Virginia, Jim.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Good morning, Good morning, Ron. How are you doing? I
urge you had a head coat. I have the same thing,
so it must be going around the country.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
So what are you doing to treat yours?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (23:03):
I put myself on z pack. I'm a dentist. We're
around the mouth all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh yeah, I don't know how you guys, I don't
know how doctors and dentists and dentist or doctors also
all you guys and ladies don't get sick all the time.
How you do that? I have no idea.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
That's because we're around viruses all the time, so you're.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Exposed to it a lot. And then you just yeah,
I guess, But.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
I take our bodies build immunity to it. Eventually, there
you go.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I would think even being a dentist would be the worst.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
It is. It is. Let me tell you, I've been
in it for forty years. Wow, still practicing.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh good for you.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
By the way, the reason I called is my neighbor
had a brand new dogwood tree put in his yard.
Is about three and a half feet and it was beautiful,
and all of a sudden the deer came through and
they stripped it. It had to be deer because all
the branches are broken off. It just looks and all

(24:00):
the bark has been taken off. Is the tree worthless? Now?
Will it ever generate? Or is it just has to
be replaced.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
See if I looked at that tree trunk where they've
scraped the bark off the trunk of the tree, is
it all the way around? Yes? Yeah, If it gets
more than fifty percent around the trunk of the tree
where they've actually torn the bark off, that's not a
good thing. Now, there are some plants that will recover
from that slowly, but surely you know, plants don't read books,

(24:29):
and then as soon as you say it won't recover,
it does. So you never know, but it's always a
wait and see at this stage. All you can do
at this point is go out there where all the
branches were broken and clean cut those prune them so
that there's a clean cut there, not just a broken edge.
And you can even take like a utility knife or
a pen knife, razorblade, something like that, and only as

(24:51):
deep as the bark. Go around those areas where the
bark's hanging loose and just kind of make a nice
little incision. Go right around that and get rid of
the loose bark, and then that tree will start to
callous over, assuming there's enough bark left on it to
callous over. If there's not, And it's really like all
the way around peeled off. I'd say, you know, it's

(25:13):
going to be a replacement. But here's the deal. You
do all that stuff and clean it up and maybe
put a little fence around us so they don't do
it again, and give it a shot. I mean next spring,
you wait and see and if it starts, if it
leaves out in the springtime and it comes on, you're
good to go. You watch it. If it doesn't, you
can tell early. Then we pull it out and re
replace it. So I don't know that i'd replace it

(25:34):
at this stage, but I got a feeling the way
you've described it to me, Jim, that doesn't sound very good. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
When I worked at it for Doug, my neighbor, I said,
I'm not sure that's gonna make it. He said, well,
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, and it is. It's a wait and see. But
what you but again, clean it up a little bit
as best you can. That's going to help it out,
and maybe put a little, you know, a couple of
stakes with some string around it or whatever to help
protect it for the rest of the winter. And then
we just wait and see what happens in the springtime.
But if it's as bad as what you just described
to me, I'd say it's probably not going to make it.
The smaller trees are gonna have a tougher time to

(26:12):
get through something like that.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Okay, well, I thank you and you have a great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Thanks Jim good talking when you help you feel better
and the Dave in Mount Healthy Dave, good.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Morning, Yeah, good morning. Have a question for you regarding sod. Yes,
my son just bought a home out in the Milford
area and it's like an acre and a quarter and
it's heavily wooded well around the home. There was very
little lawn area from the existing owner. They had kind

(26:45):
of let it grow up and stuff, and there was
just not enough lawn to be you know, what he
was looking for. So he had some guys come in
and relevel the yard out and raked it out real
good and gave a good area for planning. And of

(27:06):
course the timing was really really bad and they got
a lot of rain right after they did it. And
then he had a crew come in of tree trimmers.
He had some trees that were endangering the house. They
were leaning in towards the house, and they recommended that
they be taken down. So then the tree guys came
in and they took down a bunch of trees and
ground a bunch of stumps. So question is the intent

(27:30):
was about a month ago for them to throw down
seed and straw. Things got delayed several different times, and
now it's to the point where it's ready to either
seed it, which they said won't work, or lay sad.

(27:51):
And I was just thinking that you can't lay sod
this late in the year. I need to know your
opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, they're still cutting sods, so you can still lay
soad this late in the season. But it's getting you know,
you're almost to a point now where you're starting to
roll the dice a little bit depending on what Mother
Nature decides to do. After Thanksgiving. You got two more
weeks and it looks like cooler temperatures but not really bad.
So you got two weeks to get it to try
to settle in and root in a little bit before

(28:20):
we get into cooler tempts. Would I take a chance
what you might want to take a look at? Is it?
You know? And let me back up for a second
where they talked about the seeding not going to work well,
what it becomes dormant. Seeding is what it is. So
you know, if they seed and straw or seed and
use like a spray over the top of it rather
than using straw, that just holds it in place over

(28:42):
the wintertime so it can come up for you in
the spring. So you can do that as well. And
I look at it and say, well, would we want
to do a combination of sodding and seeding? So you
saw it where you really would? You know, where somebody
might be stepping off the sidewalk, might be stopping off
the patio. If you've got dogs something that you know
need an area to step out, you may do the

(29:03):
sod in those particular areas and seed the rest. So
do a combination of both of those would be.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Okay, That is exactly what they were suggesting at this point.
I just thought that the area that he wanted to
do is a fairly large area. And now if the
sod doesn't take does that mean that the sod is
going to die and that would all have to be

(29:31):
removed and replaced next next spring.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
If the if the roots don't, if the roots freeze
out over the winter time and they don't, you know,
start to root in before we get into the dormant
time of the season here. Uh, sometimes that does happen.
I mean yeah, because now you got this matting there.
Sometimes you get get exactly you can slice seed through that,
but it's probably easier just to roll it up and
start all over again. So there is that possibility. So

(29:55):
that's why I'm saying you're kind of rolling the dice
this late in the year. Would I do it in
a smaller area with sad, Absolutely, I wouldn't hesitate at all.
Larger areas, you know, I would think twice about it.
But again, I have no problems putting some sawd down. Still.
I think we're I personally think we're in good shape.
But yeah, you do take a risk, that's all I

(30:18):
you know. I don't know what else to tell you,
but there is a risk there. But they are still
putting saw down, and they'll still being cut and the
combed with it. Two I think is a great way
to go.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, yeah, all right, Well it sounds like the guys
who's working with has made a reasonable suggestion then, and
I just worried about you know, laying the stuff down
and then you know, having to redo it again. And
then you know the cost of that, you know, for
home buyers and.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
The and the labor, and the labor go through the
whole thing. Let me just throw one thing out there.
Everywhere where they and they probably know what they're doing here,
but where they've ground out those stumps and there are
wood chips and things that are out there, don't forget.
You know, hopefully they've gotten most of those out so
it's all soil. But even after the grinding and as
the roots break down underneath all of that, they take

(31:03):
nutrients out of the soil. So make sure they're gonna
feed that, so you know, adding fertilizer to that and
then putting that sawed down, and you're gonna have to
stick with that because they're gonna be fighting for that
a little bit grass seed as well next spring as
that stuff starts to break down a little bit. So
trying to make sure you get as many of those
chips and that old wood out of there and as
much top soil that you can have in there instead.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Okay, okay, very good tip. All right, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Thanks a lot. I appreciate the call. I have a
great Thanksgiving quick break. We come back Dick and Amy.
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Speaker 1 (34:14):
Eight hundred eight two three eighty two five five. Good morning,
I am Ron Wilson talking about yarding, moving our way
through the month of Novemba. Still some lots of things
you can be doing out there. Grass seating obviously, it's
for cool season grasses. You've gotten into the dormant season,
so anything you do from this point forward will be
will be dormant seating, meaning that it's not going to

(34:35):
come up until spring. A lot of times, you know,
unless it's a big open field, open area, open landscape
where they want to make sure they get erosion under control,
so they'll sold it or spray the foam on top
or whatever, but anyway the insulation on top to hold
it in place. One of the best times for doing
a little overseating or spot dormant seating, that type of thing.

(34:57):
I like mid to late February, grounds free and thawing.
Put the seed down, it's cracked open, thaws in the daytime,
seals back over works a seed right in the ground
for you, and it's right before the spring season. But
anytime from this point forward through early first to March,
it's going to be dormant seating. Then after that it
becomes spring seating because you're putting it down. They come

(35:19):
up sometime in the spring, so you know, keep that
in mind. Sodding. You're starting to roll the dice at
this stage, getting late, but can still be put down,
and we're still seeing it put down around the area,
so they are still cutting as long as they can cut,
as well to look at it as long as they
can still cut it, because they know what they're doing.
You can still put it down, but you do take

(35:41):
a risk of all of a sudden the weather just
totally changing. Everything can totally freeze and then it's probably
not gonna do anything. Just sit there on top and
you may lose that sod. So roll the dice, but
in smaller areas I would not hesitate to do some sodding.
Back to the gardening phone, nights ago at eight hundred
eight three eight two five five Amy in Cincinnati, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Good morning, Glad you're feeling better.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Run, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So my question. I have a hydrange of three of
them actually right by my front door, and I don't
know what kind they are, but they're not the like
cone types. I think they must throw on new wood,
maybe new and old. I don't know, but the bottom
line is, I know I'm really not supposed to prune
them this time of year, but like they look awful, right,
because all the leaves have died. They're kind of look

(36:28):
like like weeds, like stalks, just sort of not winter
interests nice, but just sort of dead. Yeah, So can
I go ahead and trim those backs?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Well? And this is a dumb answer. Can I trim
it back? You can? But what you do is amy
you do risk losing the flowers for next spring, depending
on what type they were. Are their flowers still left
on them?

Speaker 5 (36:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I don't know, right, Would it help if you just
went through and cut a couple of inches or so
off the ends and kind of even them up shape.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Help a lot, or just kind of turm them down,
like I mean, they're probably like four feet tall. Okay,
Could I take like the top foot off at least?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah? I mean you can't leave as much of the
old wood there as you can, Let's put it that way.
Cut it back to it makes you to what makes
you feel happy? They look better to you, and and
then go from there, and but leave as much of
the old wood as you can in case they happen
to be a macrophiler. Are the flowers white?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
No, they're pink, and they're the flat kind, you know,
not like they like they're like on a plate or.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
Something, you know, like got it?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
So that is that sounds like a macrophile, a type
which does flower on old and the newer variety's flowers
flower on old and sometimes new growth as well, So
that that is what you're looking at. So the more
you cut back, the more of the flower buds you
do remove. Looking at next year. But again if it
looks nasty and you don't like it, and just realizing
that you're going to remove some of the flowers, but yes,

(37:55):
you can go ahead and do that. And when you
do the pruning, find the buds on the stem, which
you can see very well. Now, kind of about take
your clipping about a quarter of an inch or so
above that bud, all right, and don't don't just share
them straight across. Kind of give me somewhat of a
mounded look to it as you prune them back. Okay,
but yeah, just realizing you're going to sacrifice a few flowers.

(38:17):
But absolutely you can do it, no problem at all.
And you're we're late. We're late enough in the year now,
that's not gonna affect.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Anything, okay, so it won't hurt the plant anyway.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
No, No, you don't. It doesn't hurt. You know, most
of the time, wrong pruning doesn't actually hurt the plant
out than the fact that maybe losing the branching structure
or whatever or the flowers. But they typically most plants
recover from whatever happens to it. So all you're going
to do is possibly remove some of the flowers for
next year.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Okay, what about a Japanese carria, I think that's what's called.
It kind of makes a little yellow flowers, so it
normally I would prune it after it did its second flowering,
but I forgot this year, so I just have this
monster plant sitting there and it's I don't mind it,
but it's going over to the sidewalk and stuff. Can
I trim that?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
You sure can't?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Well?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
And again leave it. You know you're gonna're gonna get
some fairly early flowers out of there, right yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Which I love and I think so the more I
leave it the better.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Again, can be that's on old wood, so they're gonna
flower on old wood, So the more you leave, the
better off it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
And you may look to do a you know, whole
branch removal just to get it away from the sidewalk, sidewalk,
a little cut back, and then and then after it's done,
like you said, after it's done flowering that first round,
do a harder cut back if necessary.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Okay, because I can cut it after it flowers, can
I cut back almost You're still going to the ground,
but like I can cut it back.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
You sure quite a bit, right you?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (39:43):
All right?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
All right, Well, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You're welcome. Good talking with you.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
And again, all right, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Bye bye. I love that plant. You know, we don't
see Carri a k E R R I a Japanese carrier.
It's a yellow flower almost a lime green stem and
leaves almost looks like a bramble, but the flowers outstanding.
It's a very bright gold. There's a hedgehop and trying
to think of where that is in our area that
somebody had planted. That's very unusual because you see these

(40:11):
things flowering in the summertime. They flower early and then
they're off and on through the summer. And the newer
varieties out there are a double yellow, small kind of
a button shape, but a really nice flower. But it's
called Carria Japonica and loves will tolerate good shade. I
will take the full sun as well. Tough plant. You
can hack them back like a forciity and they come

(40:32):
right back up again, but not used as much. It's
one of those plants I gonna have to put on
my plant list here to put as our planet of
the week, to bring a little bit more attention to it,
because it's a cool carrier. K E R R A
I a Japonica Japanese carrier. To day in Ohio, we
go Dicka morning, good morning.

Speaker 8 (40:53):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I am good, How are you okay? Good?

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Well, it's good good the hall it is.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Did you have the flashbacks when it snowed on this
week that you know, when you were back at Low's
selling all those snow shovels and stuff.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
Yeah, yeah, I went out there that day. I think
I went somewhere to get some Christmas shopping done. But yeah,
the roads weren't too bad, but it was kind of
nice to see it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, adds a little excitement to the fall.

Speaker 8 (41:25):
Yeah yeah. Well, I'm gonna say the big gulls might
come out of this and when twenty seven twenty.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Four, twenty seven twenty four. That's a close one. I'm
right now.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
Yeah, I don't know. It's just a boy without burrow.
It just seemed like their deep shovel.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Doesn't it well, you know. But but the thing of
it is the flack. I was doing a great job
at quarterback. You couldn't ask for more. It's just that
something's wrong with that defense they did. There's something they
got to deep dig in there and get that thing
straightened out.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Oh yeah, they really do, yep.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
But the offense is doing really good. I don't think
they've done fine. That's not the complaint. Yeah, it's it's
that defense.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I've been I talked to my
cousin this week and she was kind of happy. She
said that I had a little snow up there, and yeah,
she keeps you know, she was a gardener, you know.
So sure we listen.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Have a good week, all right, Dick, good talking with
you as usual.

Speaker 8 (42:26):
Take care, okay, bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
All right, we'll take a quick break. Coming up next
to Barbie Bletcher, the Queen Bee. We'll find out what's
going on about a summary of twenty twenty five. As
we go into the winter season, where our Honey Beech
stands at this stage. Then at the bottom of the hour,
got a book for you, and this is a great
one for yourself or for somebody for Christmas. I just
in time, but I love this. It's called The Preservers Garden,

(42:51):
How Did Garden Grow? Garden for ferment and canning, pickling, dehydrating, freeze, drawing,
and more. Written by a wife, husband and wife who
had I'll let you them tell the story, but actually
move so they could do this on a I mean,
it's crazy, but the book is absolutely outstanding. We'll talk
with Jeremy Hill at the bottom of the hour. It's
all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Not gardening questions.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Ron has the answers. At one eight hundred and eighty
two three talk You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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