November 15, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. I said that slowly so you could
write that down, or maybe you're dialing the phone right
as we speak. What's that number again? Run eight two five?
I don't know what is it? You said, eight hundred
eight three hundred a two three a two five five five.
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There you go. You had to think about, though, didn't you.
I did. Yeah, I almost gave up my phone number.
And I've done that a couple of times myself. Your number,
not mine, yes, uh, talking your ring. And of course
I do want to say again thank you to our
guest in our last hour, Barbie Bletcher, obviously the Queen
Bee for joining us. He always has great information about
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those bees. And Jeremy Hill. And you know again, I've
got two or three books we're going to talk about
over the next two or three weeks as we get
close to the holiday season. I think books, and I
know a lot of folks download the apps or go
online or whatever. I still think book, physical books. I'm
still I enjoy them. I still enjoy enjoy reading a
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book in my hands. And when I come out and
there's so many gardening books and landscaping books and all
that out there today. Is that I you know, you
can't read them all obviously, it's like growing tomatoes. You
can't read all the varieties, but or grow all the varieties.
But and did you notice the one that he picked
out right off the bat? Because I was going to
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ask what the favorite tomato was, because I always like
asking that. Cherokee purple was his first reference. That's an oldie,
but goodie heirloom that's been around forever, and so many
people you say, what's that favorite tomato, best tasting overall
tomato that you grow in your garden. Cherokee purple comes
up all the time. So if you haven't grown out
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and put it on your list. But but I will
come across some books that, you know, I think are
outstanding that and sometimes these books, even if you don't
do this, it's just fun read, just to go through
and read and learn. And I think again the story
behind some of these I really enjoy. And when I
was given the opportunity to take a look at this book, said, sure,
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it looks pretty cool. The Preserver's Garden and if Stacey
and Jeremy Hill they're out in Osdy and the ozarks
and a great again, great story. Neither one of them
are big guard uh wind up. This wasn't what they
were going to do, but that's where the path took them.
And they've got this small farm. They grow all their
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own food, they preserve it. They also service at a
you know, work at the farm markets. But what wasn't
brought up and when we were taught and again the
book is called The Preservers Garden Stacey and Jeremy Hill,
and you can pre order it. It's not available yet
on Gooseberry Ridge dot com, Gooseberry Bridge, gooseberry Bridge dot com.
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Is that their farm that they bought this I think
it's a little under twelve acres farm in Rogersville, Rogersville,
Missouri is now a as he mentioned earlier, is one
of those agro or herb agro tourism locations where you
can go there with your family and they do the
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petting zoo and the pet goats and the and the
sheep and all that. You can hold a pig, you know,
you can work, pick your own flowers. They have just
a small amount of animals there which you can the
kids can enjoy. And the whole nine yards bless all
their products and their farm store and their honey and
fresh farm eggs, and you know, the beeswax, the whole
nine yards. But it's a Gooseberry Bridge farm. And I
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after talking with them and reading the book and seeing
the pictures, as Missus Wilson and I started to look
at places to go visit in the future, I put
this one on the list. I think it's gonna be
a fun stop to check out Gooseberry Bridge Farm with
Stacey and Jeremy Hill. I mean, it's just and they've
got six kids, and the six kids are all involved,
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and grandma's and grandpa's from both sides of the family
are involved. This was like a fun place. So I
will put that on my list. But for you to
put on your list for books, this is great and
again you can enjoy reading it. Yes, some you could
also read it, take notes, pass it along to somebody else,
or use it as a family reference book. But it's
called The Preserver's Garden and tell you how to grow
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They pick about twenty five of the most popular things
that you would preserve in the garden and then they
tell you you know best ways to grow it, best
ways to preserve it, and they give you seven options dehydrating, salting, fermentation, freezing,
water back canning, pressure canning, and freeze drying. And then
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you take it from there and again you learn a lot.
Pictures are worth a thousand words, and the pictures in
here are absolutely phenomenal. So check it out. It's a
great book. I would have loved to have had them
on for another half an hour to learn more about
their farm and all. But it's called The Preservers Garden
by Stacy and Jeremy Hill. You will love it. And again,
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their website is Gooseberry Ridge Gooseberry Ridge dot com. And
I want to thank Jerry so much for spending time
with us, and they're putting up a good book together.
I think it's just warming to see the pictures of
the kids and the family in there working together and
again bringing the grand pay parents into the fold as well,
and some friends and just do a great job. So again,
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we're gonna have that on our destination list over the
next year or two to stop by if we try
to get our way out to the Missouri area and
stop in and say hello and see see what it's
like out there. Talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three, eight,
two five five. I forgot to mention to this whole
show so far. Our website it's Ron Wilson Online dot com,
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Ron Wilson online dot com and of course Facebook page
in the garden with Ron Wilson going strong this morning
our plant pick of a week this week. And I
did this on purpose because most of the leaves and
the trees around our area right now have pretty much
fallen still. The oaks and some of the pairs obviously
haven't even started to turn colors. And there's so many
invasive pairs out there, it's crazy. But what's left with
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good green leaves yet that are starting to turn a
little yellows in there? And there are the invasive honeysuckles
and the ornamental pairs, and so they stand out right
now like a sore thumb. And these are plants that
are non native, invasive plants that are have taken over
like crazy. And the honeysuckle we have dealt with for
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years and years and years and will I don't think
we'll ever get it, you know, eradicated. But the goal
is to make sure everybody's aware of it and that
you should get rid of it, and in some cases
it's hard to get rid of it because you've got
this wooded area behind your house, and there's homes on
the other side of the wooded area, and this wild
native or non native, invasive honeysuckle grows and fills in
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and it's a natural screen. Why would I take it down?
I take it down and I can see through the
woods again. Because it's invasive. It changes the floor of
the of the wooded area. It changes the environment. It's
not good for our wildlife. It's not good to have
it there. There are other things you can plant, Yep,
you're gonna have to plan them to create that screen,
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but not the honeysuckle. All right, cut it down. And
now this time of the year, parks and all they're
either cutting it down, grinding it out, cutting it down.
You can cut it off at the ground, treat the
stump with something like kills all or a weed killer,
and it shouldn't pop back up again. So if you
can't grub it out grind is, just cut it off
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and then treat that stump and it won't suck her
back up again. Or if it does, spot treat it
again in the spring. But shouldn't come back up. But
right now. They're working hard with volunteers to get rid
of this stuff as much as they can because it
does change the environment. We do not want the invasive honeysuckle.
And I understand if you look out there and say, man,
it's doing a nice job doing some screening for me,
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I get it. But we don't want it, and you
don't either. Down the road, think forward, take it out,
think forward, all right. And the other one, as I mentioned,
were the pairs, the ornamental pairs. You can see him
right now, and when you see them in flower in
the springtime, or you see them in the green leaves
right now, you start to realize how many there are.
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It's phenomenal. And when pears trees take over and become
thicker than the honeysuckle that's taken over, that's not good.
And you don't just go and pull those out of
the ground when they get established. We're talking bulldozer and
things to get rid of them. It's not a good situation.
So plant pick of the week will be the invasive honeysuckles,
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the non natives. But I also want to keep in
the back of your mind get rid of those the pears,
and I'll throw one more at you out there. You know,
we've talked about the spotted lantern fly, another non native
invasive plant that's becoming a real pest in our area
and moving across the country. Wine growers are just the vineyards.
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They're not happy about this because they really loves grapevines.
But nevertheless, it's like a's like an aphoon on steroids.
Beautiful bug. Though spotted lantern fly their host plant. Now,
they'll get on other plants obviously, but their favorite plan
of all plants is the tree of Heaven Alanthis altissima
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from Asia right, another non native invasive plant that grows anywhere.
You'll see this thing pop up in fence rows and
cracks out of driveways, up against the house where the
house foundation in the alleyway is, and they'll pop up
through there and downtown situations. It'll grow anywhere, and when
it's in flower, it stinks. Thus the name stink tree
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or tree of Heaven because it grows so quickly up
toward heaven, unbelievably fast. That's their favorite tree. And if
we can start to get rid of those, which we
should anyway, and they seed heavily, millions of seeds on
one tree you start to cut down their host plant
and that can help to reduce the populations as well.
So take a look at it. Check out your property.
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See any tree of heaven, see any ornamental pairs or
any of the pairs. Not the ones growing in your yard.
You can leave that there, but all the other ones
that have popped up. Volunteer or the invasive non native honeysuckles.
We need to get get rid of them. Please quick break,
we come back. I've got more tips to share and
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Good morning, I have Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy
before we go back to the guard phone lines talking
about our website. Run Wilson online dot com. Rita's recipe
this week and I forgot to mention it and my bad.
As we look toward Thanksgiving, Rita is sending out her
tried and true sides for Thanksgiving, and one of her
favorites is the make ahead mashed potatoes. As a matter
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of fact, I was hearing that one of the stories
on before we came on this morning, talking about pre
made mashed potatoes being more becoming more and more popular
because folks don't want to spend the time making them,
like for on Thanksgiving Day or whatever. But I still
like the I like, I'll eat the other ones, but
I still like these. But here you go. You can
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make them ahead of time, so it's your own make
ahead mashed potatoes that you can do and bring them
out two or three days later, and it does work.
I have tasted these before. They're outstanding. And you know,
if it's a recipe coming from Rita Hikenfeld, it's gotta
be good her website about eating dot com. But again
it's on our website at run Wilson on make ahead
mashed potatoes for any occasion, especially for Thanksgiving. Eight hundred
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eight two three eight two five five. Martha in Ohio,
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Good morning, Ron. I have a question about my Bay
Laurel tree. It's about three feet tall and I bring
it in during the winter and then take it out
in the summer, and it would it had lots of
new growth when I took it out in the end
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of May, and it is still green, but it's sort
of just like stopped leafing out and growing. So I'm
curious if as in all summer. Yeah, I just sat
there and I kind of blamed it on, you know,
the season whatever. I did harvest some and they dried
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beautifully like always, but it just isn't happy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
How big is it?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
It's my three feet off and like.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What a ten inch pot? Twelve inch pot?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
It's twelve all right?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Did you slide it out of the pot before you
brought it inside, just to take a look at the roots?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
No, I didn't do that. And the reason I think
that might be this culprit, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It could be. I mean, you know a lot of
times when they just sit there and don't do anything,
you have to look at Like you said earlier, weather
obviously can be a factor. But nevertheless, even the weather
that we had, cooler weather would get it off to
a slower start, but then it did warm up, you know,
and then it would slow down. And of course in
the winter time sometimes they will put out new growth
in the house warmer weather, if it's a good sunny
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sunny situation. So I usually will take those and lay
them on their side and slide it out up. Usually
water make sure you watered a day too in advance,
so it's got good moisture in there, so it'll hold
the other and just slay it on its side and
gently try to slide it out of the pot. And
once you do that, it gives you an opportunity to
take a look at those I always say taking a
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look at their feet, but take a look at those roots.
How tight you know, how tightly root bound is it
or maybe it's not. And if you pulled out you
don't see hardly any roots, then we know that somehow
we've gone into a root decline for whatever reason it
may be, whether you know watering or whatever that the
situation may be, but some reason it may be doing that.
Or you slide it out and you're surprised because all
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you see are roots and nothing else, and then it's like, well,
I get kind of get it why it's staying dwarf.
Because container gardening obviously can also dwarf plants that typically
would get some size to them. So many times pulling
that thing out of the pot looking at the roots
can be a tell tale storages right there looking at that.
The other one is make sure you and I'm sure
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you've done this, but look at the leaves, look at
the stems, look for scale, look for other issues that
may be on the stems, any sunken spots, things like
that that may be affecting it as well. But I
would start with the root system. And you know you
can do that in the house. Take an old old
shower curtain, lay it down and is lay it on
its side, and gently slide it out and take a
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look and see what you see. And if you still
don't see anything and it looks okay, feel free to
take some pictures of the root system of the plant,
a couple up close to the stems. Email them to
me and I'll take a look at it for you
and see if I can see anything else that may
may have some kind of a concern to me.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Okay, okay, Well, that sounds like a good place to start.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I will help you out as much as I can,
all right. And again, you know they're not they're not
a fast grower and it takes time. As a matter
of fact, you know, Bailey Bay trees have been in
a short supply over the last couple of years they supply,
and you buy those when the grower's growing those for
you to buy uh and grow at your home. UH.
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It from a rooted cutting. So if they take a
like a four to six inch piece, well single stem piece,
stick that in potting soil rooting compound and get that
to root, all right, it doesn't really grow too much
during that first two year period. It takes up to
two years to get that cutting to start to root out.
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So then they can move it up to like a
four inch pot, which is typically the size. You buy
the smaller ones in and grow on for another year
to try to fill it out a little bit, get
it to start to branch a bit before they put
it out for sale. Then you put it out for sale,
and the thing is like twenty bucks or twenty five dollars.
And my god, if you go online and look at
a four inch bas tree, sometimes you'll find it for
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like forty five bucks fifty bucks. But that's online. But
the reason they're expensive like that is they are slow
to get started, slow growing when they're smaller, so it
takes time. And you're finding that we're finding now that
a lot of the growers that used to propagate them
aren't doing it anymore. A lot of growers that used
to grow them aren't doing it anymore because they don't
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want to tie up two years worth of space in
their greenhouses. So Bay is becoming a little bit more
not accessible and a lot more expensive. Eight hundred eight
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Speaker 1 (22:00):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Shout out to my good friend Mary C.
Sends me pictures every week or so from her garden.
It's she does such a great job. And this week
she reminded me of their vase is leftovers. She went
through and was picking zenias that were leftover, some salvia,
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it looks like some milkweed in there, some rosemary, which
is kind of that's a pretty interesting backdrop for these
and a few other things as well. As She's just
picked as the season winds down and made a nice
arrangement in a jar by the way, when you're done
with that jar, if you can send it to the
folks at Jeremy and Stacey at Gooseberry Bridge dot com
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and they would use that jar for you. But anyway,
but I thank her for that. It's also sent me
a picture of a plant that I don't talk about
as much. I think doctor Alan Armidies and I spoke
about this two or three weeks ago because the fall
color on this is fantastic and that's why we brought
it up. Is Amsonia am Sonia, and check it out.
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There are different species out there, different selections for you,
but Amsnia some of them turn a golden yellow in
the fall and it is spectacular. The leaves are almost
needle like. And this mound of Amsonia is absolutely beautiful,
a bright golden yellow, about three feet tall and about
four feet in diameter. Dies back over the winter, kind
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of woody, but kind of dies back. You cut it
all back and start all over in the springtime. But
it's Amsonia. And be sure and check that out of
out again, and thank you Mary Ce for sending that.
Jim in Mainville, Jim, good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Good morning, Yes, sir, I have two lilacs a planet
outside that room windows. They've been there probably for fifteen
twenty years, and I call them trunks. They're up to
probably ten twelve feet high. I wanted to start cutting
them back and control each and I had heard that
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I should cut maybe a third back a year, and
I just looked, I'm in my second year of that.
Is that right? Or should I just take it all
the way down on the ground?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's what that? That's correct. That's a good way to
do it is to gradually, over a two or three
year period, walk them back down and hopefully are they single? Stanmmard?
Do you have multi stems coming out of the ground.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
It's a multi stem?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, good. So hopefully during that process you kind of
take out some of the older, you know, the really
big old central trunks that are in there as well
and start to encourage those smaller branches to come up
and kind of rejuvenate that plant from down below. So
the combination of the two you know of or the
combination you know, doing that over a longer period of time,
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third at a time or a quarter at a time
and working it back hopefully helps to encourage that. Sometimes
it does, sometimes it doesn't. Can you go at one
time and cut it back really hard and have a recover. Absolutely,
And we've done that more than one time with lot
As a matter of fact, I've taken lilacs and I'm
not telling you to do this off basically close to
the ground and have them come right back up again
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because they're so tough and durable and sucker right back up.
So you know, yes, you're doing it the proper way.
Could it all be done at one time? Yeah, And
the same thing with like burning bush. They always get
too big. It's nice to take them back over a
couple of year period of time if you're going to
reduce the size. But if you did it all at
one time, it's a little bit stress stress on the
planet itself, but they typically do recover. So I like
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what you're doing. I think you're doing a good thing.
I think the other thing to remember, Jim, is take out,
if you can, over time, any really big stems that
are coming up out of the ground and encourage the
smaller ones to come up around it and kind of,
you know, redo that plant over the next two or
three years.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
And I'm taking them, the big ones all the way
to the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, Eventually you take all those all away to the ground,
because those are the ones that have nothing till the
very top right, and so they're just you know, and
chances are they probably not branching out too much as
you cut them back. So again, take one out now,
maybe or two, or take one out next year, just
kind of do it on an easy basis. But you
want to get rid of those and just take them
off right at the ground.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
All right, Jim, good talking to you. Appreciate the call.
By the way, talk I had a call this week
or an email from about bananas, red bananas, the ences
in that that are growing in containers. You know what
to do with them as far as overwintering. And I
think the thing with bananas and n. Cetes growing in containers.
You can over one of those as a houseplant. It
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has to be a pretty sunny area. You have to
have a lot of room. Excuse me, I take a
little drink there. You have to have a lot of room.
And if you don't have the room, what do we
do next. You can to over one of those as
a dormant plant, so you can actually bring those in
the house if they're in a container. Leave them in
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the container if you want. If it's in a big container,
bear just take them out of the pot, knock a
lot of the outside soil off, put them in a
bag or something to keep the soal up from going everywhere,
a bucket, something like that. Cut the leaves off, leave
the trunk, but cut the leaves off. Put it in
a dark, cool area in the basement, and over winter
it that way and maybe miss that root system once
or twice a month, just to keep a little bit
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of moisture in those roots. In the springtime, bring that
back out, pot it back up, and start it all
over again in the house, getting an early jump, and
then take it outside once the weather changes. So you
got a couple options. You either grow them as a
house plant and that's going to take a lot of room,
or you grow them in a dormant state and you
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remove the leaves, let it go dormant, just sit there
over the wintertime in a cool, dark location, bring it
back out in the springtime and go from there. Or
as the way the costs are going on these things,
sometimes that's a lot of work, a lot of moving
in and out and et cetera, et cetera. Sometimes you
lose them. Sometimes you don't um and they're not that
expensive to replant. And the thing that they were rebuy
in the springtime, they become a lot less expensive. And
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when you buy them in May to plant, your containers
are already three feet tall or whatever because they've been
growing in Florida and I got a jump start on
there for you. But again, if you want to try it,
over one of them, either in a dormant state or
as a houseplant. Pete and Cincinnati, good morning, Hey.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Good morning. Yeah, So I have a red plum tree
planted in my front yard. It's about ten years old
and I would say a good twenty foot tall, so
pretty mature. But I've never pruned off I guess as
sucker limbs. And you know, there's a good four or
five main branches come off the trunk, and those branches
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have it's just a myriad of sucker limbs. And now
it's a good time to handle that. So I just
wanted to get some instructions on should I spend all
of them out or just some of them? And how
do I see the canopy of the tree preserved if
I take off those branches?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Great, great question and timing for doing that. You can
do that now. I would get on it soon if
you can. I would not do it in the winter.
I would do it late winter early spring. And for me,
I probably would hold off unless it's just whole branch removal,
I probably hold off and do it late winter early spring.
But either way works. And do remember Pete, you could
let it flower if you want to enjoy the flowers,
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and then do your trimming afterwards. So you got a
couple options there as far as sucker's coming off. The
main branches that are coming out, you know, you want
to get anything that's growing straight up through the tree
you want to get rid of. So when by the
time you're finished looking at that tree, every branch that's
inside there is either growing up or out and away
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from the tree. They aren't criss crossing me to each other.
So as it loses its leaves, obviously it makes it
very convenient to look at it, see the structure, and
go from there. And you want to do sucker removal first,
criss crossing branches, get rid of the whole thing, now
just a tip or whatever, take it out wherever it
comes out from. Clean that out first, then stand back,
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take another look, tip pruning would be minimal, if any
at all to preserve the structure of the and the
and the canopy of the tree. But if you had
to do a little tip pruning, they respond nicely to that.
Not a big issue. But I try to do more
of sucker removal, dead branch removal, whole branch removal, and
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then stand back and look at it and say, how
are we doing at this stage. The other thing I
might suggest to you is take a picture of it.
If you're not gonna do this this weekend, and go
to your local independent garden center, let somebody look at
it and just kind of say I do this this
or this or email me and I can do the
same thing next week.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Good advice and say.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, I take this one out, that one out,
and this is all I would do at this stage,
and then you can take it from there.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
Okay. Yeah, each each limb literally has every inch there's
a sucker growing from it. So well you're you're looking
at I'm looking at fifty sixty to one hundred sucker
just to.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Get those yeah right, yeah, but you're gonna want to
get rid of them over time.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Okay, but let's overtime so, but but.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Send a picture and let me look at it or
somebody else look at it and say yay or nay.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
We'll do okay, Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
All right, Pete, good talking. Well you let's take a
quick break. But before we do real quick, I just
got to get to mention this for all you doctor
Alan Armitage fans. All right, He's got his next book
that's coming out first of January, and I've been kiddnam
about it, Common Sense Guard The Common Sense Gardener by
Alan Armitage. He is going to starting today have an
early bird print of this book. I have no idea
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what the call. I'm not. You know again, if you're
an Alan Armonys fan and you're looking for this, go
to his website Alan Armies dot net, Alan Armitage dot net.
He's going to have this special going today through this
number the fifteenth only and he'll sign it for you
and all that kind of stuff, and then the regular
publication won't be until January. But it's called The Common
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Sense Gardener. Yes, I have read it, and it's just
a great story. It's told in story form. It's a
fun read, and it's doctor Alan Armidy's What can I say?
So again he's gonna have that, and we're gonna have
him on next Saturday to talk more about this. But
the this pre sale starts today and he's got I
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think a thousand maybe that he's gonna have available before Christmas.
So there you go, take a quick break. We come back,
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Wilson saw some hollow Santa clauses.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Oh, hollow chocolate Santa's.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
They're out already on this. As soon as the uh
Halloween candy was gone, other stuff came in right behind it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you bought a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm sure I haven't yet, but you never know. You
were you disappointed when you found out that the Farmer's
Almanac was no longer going to be in print after
twenty twenty six? Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Why do you read the Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I used to, and maybe that's why it's going out print. Huh,
but not so much anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, let me ask you this because I think there's
a little confusion here. Oh did you read the Farmer's
Almanac or the Old Old Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I used to read the Old Farmer's Almanac. I don't
know what I've read recently, whether it was the original
or the non original.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Which one is the original, the yellow cover one? Which
one is that?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I that's the old one.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, see, that's where I think people are a little
bit confused. The Old Farmer's Almanac was founded in seventeen
ninety two, which is the little yellow book that features
the founder, Robert Thomas and of course Benjamin Franklin two
hundred and thirty four years old and going strong.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
So that's what I would call the original. That is
the one is the other one yellow also here's but.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
In the other one's two hundred and some years old.
But this one's a little older. And I come to
find out because I did little researches to make sure.
When when these were all published way back then, there
were several almanacs that were out at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Almanacs were big.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They were big, and so there were there was the Farmers,
there was the Old Farmers there and there were multiple
almanacs that were still out there, some of which are
still around today in very small publications. But the one
that I probably most familiar with, and I get their
emails every week. They do a weekly email and updates.
It's kind of fun, is the Old Farmer's Almanac, which
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is from seventeen ninety two. The original Farmer's Almanac.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Hmmm, well, I'm still confused.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
So is it going to be a cold winner or
Farmer's Almanac was another one of that was out there
at the time.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
See every you know, it just gets confusing, doesn't it
just beat just you know, like our color of the year,
you know what I mean, it's nice. It was a
nice little pantone. Once a year, one company tells you
what the color of the year is, and then all
of a sudden we had Color of the Month. We
had everybody named Bob has this color of the year.
And can you even tell me what the twenty twenty
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sixth Color of the Year is by Pantone. No, yeah,
see now it's not even news.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
No. And what's funny is I when I get I
sent you? You and I talked about this probably a
month ago that somebody told me about Benjamin Moore's two
or three other you know, pain companies, right, had their colors, right,
I saw nothing about the Pantone and that was it.
So I don't know, did it is it? Maybe? Is
it losing?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's no, No, they produced, they came out with it.
I missed it. And it's called transformative teal.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Transformative teal.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's kind of a cool looking teal.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I mean if you're into teals, right, if.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You like teals. Yeah, I remember there was a color
several years ago that you and I boat just said, Oh,
I forget what months It's like, you've got to be kidding.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, I think like a universal khaki or something. I
think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Rage you ever became a color of the year. But
that was the big buzzerword. As we transformed from gray,
we started throwing beige in, and beige was it had
a short lit blurp on the screen. In the last
probably seven or eight years, where we came up with
it were grayish. I didn't come up with it. That's
what people That's what designers were called grays. It's like,
(38:55):
what do you mean gray?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What I mean? I thought you came up with that?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, that I let the real thinkers think. Okay, but
transformative teal. And it's weird too, because every color of
the year by different things. They're not even in the
same color grouping, So how can it be the color
of the year. Yeah, you know, we got one his teal,
and then the next guy comes out it's Mocha moose.
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And another one comes out and it's an off white,
and it's like, well, come on, I.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Think what I think one was I'm drawing was a
Mocha something last.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Year I think, or this year actually twenty twenty five
was Mocha miss or Mocha Moose. It was kind of
like a it's like earthy tone. It was like the
color of a chocolate milkshake.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, see bees like earthy tones.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I learned that this morning.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Earthy tones.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
They like the earthy tones.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Who's they?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
The bees?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
All bees like hers?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So you know what you see? Most beehives are white, Yeah,
to reflect the heat in the summer tone. Yeah, and uh,
maybe they just thought he's like them white. Maybe now
we're starting to see multiple colors out there, and so
my question was do they have a favorite color? And
it wasn't really when it comes to painting it, but
they do like the earthy colors more. And the earthy
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colors don't get heat up quite as much in the summer,
but they helped to warm it up a little bit
more in the winter.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
So it's kind of like their heating system and their
air conditioner.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yes, those little bees are so smart bees? Are they are? They?
Did you know that they can take their wings and
pull them, disengage them really so that they buzz in
a different So they buzz just well they buzzed, just
a buzz to he create the heat. Because if they
were engaged in their shoulders, then they would fly and
(40:44):
then they hide would just fly away. I'm just kidding
you on that, but but they would they would fly
if they if they were had the wings on normally
because that's how they fly.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
So you should write a book called a Bees Complicated.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Not me, but the Queen Bee Show. Somebody should.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh, you could write a book the Ant doctor. He
had all these facts about ants.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You were you'd be talking Yeah, I mean when he
was on, you'd be talking ants for a month. You
probably were great at a party. Oh yeah, By the way,
did I tell you about these?
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
My favorite story is if there's a lot of heavy
rains and the bee population is just getting swamped, the
queen not the bee. The queen ant will get all
the male worker bees and they're all male arms, create
a raft and the queen ant will sit on top
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of them. They'll float away to dryer land and start
their new colony.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
And I asked what ant did you involve in an
interview for that time?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Who did you talk to? What you talk to?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Do you have their phone number?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Are you going to talk about almond brumen today?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Ron, We're gonna talk about paint, paint disposal and all
kinds of good tips and cleaning for the holidays.
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Now do yourself a favor. Keep planting those trees, keep
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. I said that slowly so you could
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There you go. You had to think about, though, didn't you.
I did. Yeah, I almost gave up my phone number.
And I've done that a couple of times myself. Your number,
not mine, yes, uh, talking your ring. And of course
I do want to say again thank you to our
guest in our last hour, Barbie Bletcher, obviously the Queen
Bee for joining us. He always has great information about
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those bees. And Jeremy Hill. And you know again, I've
got two or three books we're going to talk about
over the next two or three weeks as we get
close to the holiday season. I think books, and I
know a lot of folks download the apps or go
online or whatever. I still think book, physical books. I'm
still I enjoy them. I still enjoy enjoy reading a
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book in my hands. And when I come out and
there's so many gardening books and landscaping books and all
that out there today. Is that I you know, you
can't read them all obviously, it's like growing tomatoes. You
can't read all the varieties, but or grow all the varieties.
But and did you notice the one that he picked
out right off the bat? Because I was going to
(02:03):
ask what the favorite tomato was, because I always like
asking that. Cherokee purple was his first reference. That's an oldie,
but goodie heirloom that's been around forever, and so many
people you say, what's that favorite tomato, best tasting overall
tomato that you grow in your garden. Cherokee purple comes
up all the time. So if you haven't grown out
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and put it on your list. But but I will
come across some books that, you know, I think are
outstanding that and sometimes these books, even if you don't
do this, it's just fun read, just to go through
and read and learn. And I think again the story
behind some of these I really enjoy. And when I
was given the opportunity to take a look at this book, said, sure,
(02:47):
it looks pretty cool. The Preserver's Garden and if Stacey
and Jeremy Hill they're out in Osdy and the ozarks
and a great again, great story. Neither one of them
are big guard uh wind up. This wasn't what they
were going to do, but that's where the path took them.
And they've got this small farm. They grow all their
(03:08):
own food, they preserve it. They also service at a
you know, work at the farm markets. But what wasn't
brought up and when we were taught and again the
book is called The Preservers Garden Stacey and Jeremy Hill,
and you can pre order it. It's not available yet
on Gooseberry Ridge dot com, Gooseberry Bridge, gooseberry Bridge dot com.
(03:30):
Is that their farm that they bought this I think
it's a little under twelve acres farm in Rogersville, Rogersville,
Missouri is now a as he mentioned earlier, is one
of those agro or herb agro tourism locations where you
can go there with your family and they do the
(03:52):
petting zoo and the pet goats and the and the
sheep and all that. You can hold a pig, you know,
you can work, pick your own flowers. They have just
a small amount of animals there which you can the
kids can enjoy. And the whole nine yards bless all
their products and their farm store and their honey and
fresh farm eggs, and you know, the beeswax, the whole
nine yards. But it's a Gooseberry Bridge farm. And I
(04:16):
after talking with them and reading the book and seeing
the pictures, as Missus Wilson and I started to look
at places to go visit in the future, I put
this one on the list. I think it's gonna be
a fun stop to check out Gooseberry Bridge Farm with
Stacey and Jeremy Hill. I mean, it's just and they've
got six kids, and the six kids are all involved,
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and grandma's and grandpa's from both sides of the family
are involved. This was like a fun place. So I
will put that on my list. But for you to
put on your list for books, this is great and
again you can enjoy reading it. Yes, some you could
also read it, take notes, pass it along to somebody else,
or use it as a family reference book. But it's
called The Preserver's Garden and tell you how to grow
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They pick about twenty five of the most popular things
that you would preserve in the garden and then they
tell you you know best ways to grow it, best
ways to preserve it, and they give you seven options dehydrating, salting, fermentation, freezing,
water back canning, pressure canning, and freeze drying. And then
(05:22):
you take it from there and again you learn a lot.
Pictures are worth a thousand words, and the pictures in
here are absolutely phenomenal. So check it out. It's a
great book. I would have loved to have had them
on for another half an hour to learn more about
their farm and all. But it's called The Preservers Garden
by Stacy and Jeremy Hill. You will love it. And again,
(05:42):
their website is Gooseberry Ridge Gooseberry Ridge dot com. And
I want to thank Jerry so much for spending time
with us, and they're putting up a good book together.
I think it's just warming to see the pictures of
the kids and the family in there working together and
again bringing the grand pay parents into the fold as well,
and some friends and just do a great job. So again,
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we're gonna have that on our destination list over the
next year or two to stop by if we try
to get our way out to the Missouri area and
stop in and say hello and see see what it's
like out there. Talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three, eight,
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show so far. Our website it's Ron Wilson Online dot com,
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Ron Wilson online dot com and of course Facebook page
in the garden with Ron Wilson going strong this morning
our plant pick of a week this week. And I
did this on purpose because most of the leaves and
the trees around our area right now have pretty much
fallen still. The oaks and some of the pairs obviously
haven't even started to turn colors. And there's so many
invasive pairs out there, it's crazy. But what's left with
(06:49):
good green leaves yet that are starting to turn a
little yellows in there? And there are the invasive honeysuckles
and the ornamental pairs, and so they stand out right
now like a sore thumb. And these are plants that
are non native, invasive plants that are have taken over
like crazy. And the honeysuckle we have dealt with for
(07:13):
years and years and years and will I don't think
we'll ever get it, you know, eradicated. But the goal
is to make sure everybody's aware of it and that
you should get rid of it, and in some cases
it's hard to get rid of it because you've got
this wooded area behind your house, and there's homes on
the other side of the wooded area, and this wild
native or non native, invasive honeysuckle grows and fills in
(07:36):
and it's a natural screen. Why would I take it down?
I take it down and I can see through the
woods again. Because it's invasive. It changes the floor of
the of the wooded area. It changes the environment. It's
not good for our wildlife. It's not good to have
it there. There are other things you can plant, Yep,
you're gonna have to plan them to create that screen,
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but not the honeysuckle. All right, cut it down. And
now this time of the year, parks and all they're
either cutting it down, grinding it out, cutting it down.
You can cut it off at the ground, treat the
stump with something like kills all or a weed killer,
and it shouldn't pop back up again. So if you
can't grub it out grind is, just cut it off
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and then treat that stump and it won't suck her
back up again. Or if it does, spot treat it
again in the spring. But shouldn't come back up. But
right now. They're working hard with volunteers to get rid
of this stuff as much as they can because it
does change the environment. We do not want the invasive honeysuckle.
And I understand if you look out there and say, man,
it's doing a nice job doing some screening for me,
(08:40):
I get it. But we don't want it, and you
don't either. Down the road, think forward, take it out,
think forward, all right. And the other one, as I mentioned,
were the pairs, the ornamental pairs. You can see him
right now, and when you see them in flower in
the springtime, or you see them in the green leaves
right now, you start to realize how many there are.
(09:00):
It's phenomenal. And when pears trees take over and become
thicker than the honeysuckle that's taken over, that's not good.
And you don't just go and pull those out of
the ground when they get established. We're talking bulldozer and
things to get rid of them. It's not a good situation.
So plant pick of the week will be the invasive honeysuckles,
(09:22):
the non natives. But I also want to keep in
the back of your mind get rid of those the pears,
and I'll throw one more at you out there. You know,
we've talked about the spotted lantern fly, another non native
invasive plant that's becoming a real pest in our area
and moving across the country. Wine growers are just the vineyards.
(09:43):
They're not happy about this because they really loves grapevines.
But nevertheless, it's like a's like an aphoon on steroids.
Beautiful bug. Though spotted lantern fly their host plant. Now,
they'll get on other plants obviously, but their favorite plan
of all plants is the tree of Heaven Alanthis altissima
(10:04):
from Asia right, another non native invasive plant that grows anywhere.
You'll see this thing pop up in fence rows and
cracks out of driveways, up against the house where the
house foundation in the alleyway is, and they'll pop up
through there and downtown situations. It'll grow anywhere, and when
it's in flower, it stinks. Thus the name stink tree
(10:26):
or tree of Heaven because it grows so quickly up
toward heaven, unbelievably fast. That's their favorite tree. And if
we can start to get rid of those, which we
should anyway, and they seed heavily, millions of seeds on
one tree you start to cut down their host plant
and that can help to reduce the populations as well.
So take a look at it. Check out your property.
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See any tree of heaven, see any ornamental pairs or
any of the pairs. Not the ones growing in your yard.
You can leave that there, but all the other ones
that have popped up. Volunteer or the invasive non native honeysuckles.
We need to get get rid of them. Please quick break,
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Good morning, I have Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy
before we go back to the guard phone lines talking
about our website. Run Wilson online dot com. Rita's recipe
this week and I forgot to mention it and my bad.
As we look toward Thanksgiving, Rita is sending out her
tried and true sides for Thanksgiving, and one of her
favorites is the make ahead mashed potatoes. As a matter
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of fact, I was hearing that one of the stories
on before we came on this morning, talking about pre
made mashed potatoes being more becoming more and more popular
because folks don't want to spend the time making them,
like for on Thanksgiving Day or whatever. But I still
like the I like, I'll eat the other ones, but
I still like these. But here you go. You can
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make them ahead of time, so it's your own make
ahead mashed potatoes that you can do and bring them
out two or three days later, and it does work.
I have tasted these before. They're outstanding. And you know,
if it's a recipe coming from Rita Hikenfeld, it's gotta
be good her website about eating dot com. But again
it's on our website at run Wilson on make ahead
mashed potatoes for any occasion, especially for Thanksgiving. Eight hundred
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eight two three eight two five five. Martha in Ohio,
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Good morning, Ron. I have a question about my Bay
Laurel tree. It's about three feet tall and I bring
it in during the winter and then take it out
in the summer, and it would it had lots of
new growth when I took it out in the end
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of May, and it is still green, but it's sort
of just like stopped leafing out and growing. So I'm
curious if as in all summer. Yeah, I just sat
there and I kind of blamed it on, you know,
the season whatever. I did harvest some and they dried
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beautifully like always, but it just isn't happy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
How big is it?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
It's my three feet off and like.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What a ten inch pot? Twelve inch pot?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
It's twelve all right?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Did you slide it out of the pot before you
brought it inside, just to take a look at the roots?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
No, I didn't do that. And the reason I think
that might be this culprit, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It could be. I mean, you know a lot of
times when they just sit there and don't do anything,
you have to look at Like you said earlier, weather
obviously can be a factor. But nevertheless, even the weather
that we had, cooler weather would get it off to
a slower start, but then it did warm up, you know,
and then it would slow down. And of course in
the winter time sometimes they will put out new growth
in the house warmer weather, if it's a good sunny
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sunny situation. So I usually will take those and lay
them on their side and slide it out up. Usually
water make sure you watered a day too in advance,
so it's got good moisture in there, so it'll hold
the other and just slay it on its side and
gently try to slide it out of the pot. And
once you do that, it gives you an opportunity to
take a look at those I always say taking a
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look at their feet, but take a look at those roots.
How tight you know, how tightly root bound is it
or maybe it's not. And if you pulled out you
don't see hardly any roots, then we know that somehow
we've gone into a root decline for whatever reason it
may be, whether you know watering or whatever that the
situation may be, but some reason it may be doing that.
Or you slide it out and you're surprised because all
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you see are roots and nothing else, and then it's like, well,
I get kind of get it why it's staying dwarf.
Because container gardening obviously can also dwarf plants that typically
would get some size to them. So many times pulling
that thing out of the pot looking at the roots
can be a tell tale storages right there looking at that.
The other one is make sure you and I'm sure
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you've done this, but look at the leaves, look at
the stems, look for scale, look for other issues that
may be on the stems, any sunken spots, things like
that that may be affecting it as well. But I
would start with the root system. And you know you
can do that in the house. Take an old old
shower curtain, lay it down and is lay it on
its side, and gently slide it out and take a
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look and see what you see. And if you still
don't see anything and it looks okay, feel free to
take some pictures of the root system of the plant,
a couple up close to the stems. Email them to
me and I'll take a look at it for you
and see if I can see anything else that may
may have some kind of a concern to me.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Okay, okay, Well, that sounds like a good place to start.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I will help you out as much as I can,
all right. And again, you know they're not they're not
a fast grower and it takes time. As a matter
of fact, you know, Bailey Bay trees have been in
a short supply over the last couple of years they supply,
and you buy those when the grower's growing those for
you to buy uh and grow at your home. UH.
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It from a rooted cutting. So if they take a
like a four to six inch piece, well single stem piece,
stick that in potting soil rooting compound and get that
to root, all right, it doesn't really grow too much
during that first two year period. It takes up to
two years to get that cutting to start to root out.
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So then they can move it up to like a
four inch pot, which is typically the size. You buy
the smaller ones in and grow on for another year
to try to fill it out a little bit, get
it to start to branch a bit before they put
it out for sale. Then you put it out for sale,
and the thing is like twenty bucks or twenty five dollars.
And my god, if you go online and look at
a four inch bas tree, sometimes you'll find it for
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like forty five bucks fifty bucks. But that's online. But
the reason they're expensive like that is they are slow
to get started, slow growing when they're smaller, so it
takes time. And you're finding that we're finding now that
a lot of the growers that used to propagate them
aren't doing it anymore. A lot of growers that used
to grow them aren't doing it anymore because they don't
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want to tie up two years worth of space in
their greenhouses. So Bay is becoming a little bit more
not accessible and a lot more expensive. Eight hundred eight
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Speaker 1 (22:00):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Shout out to my good friend Mary C.
Sends me pictures every week or so from her garden.
It's she does such a great job. And this week
she reminded me of their vase is leftovers. She went
through and was picking zenias that were leftover, some salvia,
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it looks like some milkweed in there, some rosemary, which
is kind of that's a pretty interesting backdrop for these
and a few other things as well. As She's just
picked as the season winds down and made a nice
arrangement in a jar by the way, when you're done
with that jar, if you can send it to the
folks at Jeremy and Stacey at Gooseberry Bridge dot com
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and they would use that jar for you. But anyway,
but I thank her for that. It's also sent me
a picture of a plant that I don't talk about
as much. I think doctor Alan Armidies and I spoke
about this two or three weeks ago because the fall
color on this is fantastic and that's why we brought
it up. Is Amsonia am Sonia, and check it out.
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There are different species out there, different selections for you,
but Amsnia some of them turn a golden yellow in
the fall and it is spectacular. The leaves are almost
needle like. And this mound of Amsonia is absolutely beautiful,
a bright golden yellow, about three feet tall and about
four feet in diameter. Dies back over the winter, kind
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of woody, but kind of dies back. You cut it
all back and start all over in the springtime. But
it's Amsonia. And be sure and check that out of
out again, and thank you Mary Ce for sending that.
Jim in Mainville, Jim, good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Good morning, Yes, sir, I have two lilacs a planet
outside that room windows. They've been there probably for fifteen
twenty years, and I call them trunks. They're up to
probably ten twelve feet high. I wanted to start cutting
them back and control each and I had heard that
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I should cut maybe a third back a year, and
I just looked, I'm in my second year of that.
Is that right? Or should I just take it all
the way down on the ground?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's what that? That's correct. That's a good way to
do it is to gradually, over a two or three
year period, walk them back down and hopefully are they single? Stanmmard?
Do you have multi stems coming out of the ground.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
It's a multi stem?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, good. So hopefully during that process you kind of
take out some of the older, you know, the really
big old central trunks that are in there as well
and start to encourage those smaller branches to come up
and kind of rejuvenate that plant from down below. So
the combination of the two you know of or the
combination you know, doing that over a longer period of time,
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third at a time or a quarter at a time
and working it back hopefully helps to encourage that. Sometimes
it does, sometimes it doesn't. Can you go at one
time and cut it back really hard and have a recover. Absolutely,
And we've done that more than one time with lot
As a matter of fact, I've taken lilacs and I'm
not telling you to do this off basically close to
the ground and have them come right back up again
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because they're so tough and durable and sucker right back up.
So you know, yes, you're doing it the proper way.
Could it all be done at one time? Yeah, And
the same thing with like burning bush. They always get
too big. It's nice to take them back over a
couple of year period of time if you're going to
reduce the size. But if you did it all at
one time, it's a little bit stress stress on the
planet itself, but they typically do recover. So I like
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what you're doing. I think you're doing a good thing.
I think the other thing to remember, Jim, is take out,
if you can, over time, any really big stems that
are coming up out of the ground and encourage the
smaller ones to come up around it and kind of,
you know, redo that plant over the next two or
three years.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
And I'm taking them, the big ones all the way
to the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, Eventually you take all those all away to the ground,
because those are the ones that have nothing till the
very top right, and so they're just you know, and
chances are they probably not branching out too much as
you cut them back. So again, take one out now,
maybe or two, or take one out next year, just
kind of do it on an easy basis. But you
want to get rid of those and just take them
off right at the ground.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
All right, Jim, good talking to you. Appreciate the call.
By the way, talk I had a call this week
or an email from about bananas, red bananas, the ences
in that that are growing in containers. You know what
to do with them as far as overwintering. And I
think the thing with bananas and n. Cetes growing in containers.
You can over one of those as a houseplant. It
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has to be a pretty sunny area. You have to
have a lot of room. Excuse me, I take a
little drink there. You have to have a lot of room.
And if you don't have the room, what do we
do next. You can to over one of those as
a dormant plant, so you can actually bring those in
the house if they're in a container. Leave them in
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the container if you want. If it's in a big container,
bear just take them out of the pot, knock a
lot of the outside soil off, put them in a
bag or something to keep the soal up from going everywhere,
a bucket, something like that. Cut the leaves off, leave
the trunk, but cut the leaves off. Put it in
a dark, cool area in the basement, and over winter
it that way and maybe miss that root system once
or twice a month, just to keep a little bit
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of moisture in those roots. In the springtime, bring that
back out, pot it back up, and start it all
over again in the house, getting an early jump, and
then take it outside once the weather changes. So you
got a couple options. You either grow them as a
house plant and that's going to take a lot of room,
or you grow them in a dormant state and you
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remove the leaves, let it go dormant, just sit there
over the wintertime in a cool, dark location, bring it
back out in the springtime and go from there. Or
as the way the costs are going on these things,
sometimes that's a lot of work, a lot of moving
in and out and et cetera, et cetera. Sometimes you
lose them. Sometimes you don't um and they're not that
expensive to replant. And the thing that they were rebuy
in the springtime, they become a lot less expensive. And
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when you buy them in May to plant, your containers
are already three feet tall or whatever because they've been
growing in Florida and I got a jump start on
there for you. But again, if you want to try it,
over one of them, either in a dormant state or
as a houseplant. Pete and Cincinnati, good morning, Hey.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Good morning. Yeah, So I have a red plum tree
planted in my front yard. It's about ten years old
and I would say a good twenty foot tall, so
pretty mature. But I've never pruned off I guess as
sucker limbs. And you know, there's a good four or
five main branches come off the trunk, and those branches
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have it's just a myriad of sucker limbs. And now
it's a good time to handle that. So I just
wanted to get some instructions on should I spend all
of them out or just some of them? And how
do I see the canopy of the tree preserved if
I take off those branches?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Great, great question and timing for doing that. You can
do that now. I would get on it soon if
you can. I would not do it in the winter.
I would do it late winter early spring. And for me,
I probably would hold off unless it's just whole branch removal,
I probably hold off and do it late winter early spring.
But either way works. And do remember Pete, you could
let it flower if you want to enjoy the flowers,
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and then do your trimming afterwards. So you got a
couple options there as far as sucker's coming off. The
main branches that are coming out, you know, you want
to get anything that's growing straight up through the tree
you want to get rid of. So when by the
time you're finished looking at that tree, every branch that's
inside there is either growing up or out and away
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from the tree. They aren't criss crossing me to each other.
So as it loses its leaves, obviously it makes it
very convenient to look at it, see the structure, and
go from there. And you want to do sucker removal first,
criss crossing branches, get rid of the whole thing, now
just a tip or whatever, take it out wherever it
comes out from. Clean that out first, then stand back,
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take another look, tip pruning would be minimal, if any
at all to preserve the structure of the and the
and the canopy of the tree. But if you had
to do a little tip pruning, they respond nicely to that.
Not a big issue. But I try to do more
of sucker removal, dead branch removal, whole branch removal, and
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then stand back and look at it and say, how
are we doing at this stage. The other thing I
might suggest to you is take a picture of it.
If you're not gonna do this this weekend, and go
to your local independent garden center, let somebody look at
it and just kind of say I do this this
or this or email me and I can do the
same thing next week.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Good advice and say.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, I take this one out, that one out,
and this is all I would do at this stage,
and then you can take it from there.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
Okay. Yeah, each each limb literally has every inch there's
a sucker growing from it. So well you're you're looking
at I'm looking at fifty sixty to one hundred sucker
just to.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Get those yeah right, yeah, but you're gonna want to
get rid of them over time.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Okay, but let's overtime so, but but.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Send a picture and let me look at it or
somebody else look at it and say yay or nay.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
We'll do okay, Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
All right, Pete, good talking. Well you let's take a
quick break. But before we do real quick, I just
got to get to mention this for all you doctor
Alan Armitage fans. All right, He's got his next book
that's coming out first of January, and I've been kiddnam
about it, Common Sense Guard The Common Sense Gardener by
Alan Armitage. He is going to starting today have an
early bird print of this book. I have no idea
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what the call. I'm not. You know again, if you're
an Alan Armonys fan and you're looking for this, go
to his website Alan Armies dot net, Alan Armitage dot net.
He's going to have this special going today through this
number the fifteenth only and he'll sign it for you
and all that kind of stuff, and then the regular
publication won't be until January. But it's called The Common
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Sense Gardener. Yes, I have read it, and it's just
a great story. It's told in story form. It's a
fun read, and it's doctor Alan Armidy's What can I say?
So again he's gonna have that, and we're gonna have
him on next Saturday to talk more about this. But
the this pre sale starts today and he's got I
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think a thousand maybe that he's gonna have available before Christmas.
So there you go, take a quick break. We come back,
will Home Improven from the man, the myth, the legend.
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson in
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Wilson saw some hollow Santa clauses.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Oh, hollow chocolate Santa's.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
They're out already on this. As soon as the uh
Halloween candy was gone, other stuff came in right behind it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you bought a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm sure I haven't yet, but you never know. You
were you disappointed when you found out that the Farmer's
Almanac was no longer going to be in print after
twenty twenty six? Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Why do you read the Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I used to, and maybe that's why it's going out print. Huh,
but not so much anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, let me ask you this because I think there's
a little confusion here. Oh did you read the Farmer's
Almanac or the Old Old Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I used to read the Old Farmer's Almanac. I don't
know what I've read recently, whether it was the original
or the non original.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Which one is the original, the yellow cover one? Which
one is that?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I that's the old one.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, see, that's where I think people are a little
bit confused. The Old Farmer's Almanac was founded in seventeen
ninety two, which is the little yellow book that features
the founder, Robert Thomas and of course Benjamin Franklin two
hundred and thirty four years old and going strong.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
So that's what I would call the original. That is
the one is the other one yellow also here's but.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
In the other one's two hundred and some years old.
But this one's a little older. And I come to
find out because I did little researches to make sure.
When when these were all published way back then, there
were several almanacs that were out at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Almanacs were big.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They were big, and so there were there was the Farmers,
there was the Old Farmers there and there were multiple
almanacs that were still out there, some of which are
still around today in very small publications. But the one
that I probably most familiar with, and I get their
emails every week. They do a weekly email and updates.
It's kind of fun, is the Old Farmer's Almanac, which
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is from seventeen ninety two. The original Farmer's Almanac.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Hmmm, well, I'm still confused.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
So is it going to be a cold winner or
Farmer's Almanac was another one of that was out there
at the time.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
See every you know, it just gets confusing, doesn't it
just beat just you know, like our color of the year,
you know what I mean, it's nice. It was a
nice little pantone. Once a year, one company tells you
what the color of the year is, and then all
of a sudden we had Color of the Month. We
had everybody named Bob has this color of the year.
And can you even tell me what the twenty twenty
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sixth Color of the Year is by Pantone. No, yeah,
see now it's not even news.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
No. And what's funny is I when I get I
sent you? You and I talked about this probably a
month ago that somebody told me about Benjamin Moore's two
or three other you know, pain companies, right, had their colors, right,
I saw nothing about the Pantone and that was it.
So I don't know, did it is it? Maybe? Is
it losing?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's no, No, they produced, they came out with it.
I missed it. And it's called transformative teal.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Transformative teal.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's kind of a cool looking teal.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I mean if you're into teals, right, if.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You like teals. Yeah, I remember there was a color
several years ago that you and I boat just said, Oh,
I forget what months It's like, you've got to be kidding.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, I think like a universal khaki or something. I
think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Rage you ever became a color of the year. But
that was the big buzzerword. As we transformed from gray,
we started throwing beige in, and beige was it had
a short lit blurp on the screen. In the last
probably seven or eight years, where we came up with
it were grayish. I didn't come up with it. That's
what people That's what designers were called grays. It's like,
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what do you mean gray?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What I mean? I thought you came up with that?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, that I let the real thinkers think. Okay, but
transformative teal. And it's weird too, because every color of
the year by different things. They're not even in the
same color grouping, So how can it be the color
of the year. Yeah, you know, we got one his teal,
and then the next guy comes out it's Mocha moose.
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And another one comes out and it's an off white,
and it's like, well, come on, I.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Think what I think one was I'm drawing was a
Mocha something last.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Year I think, or this year actually twenty twenty five
was Mocha miss or Mocha Moose. It was kind of
like a it's like earthy tone. It was like the
color of a chocolate milkshake.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, see bees like earthy tones.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I learned that this morning.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Earthy tones.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
They like the earthy tones.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Who's they?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
The bees?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
All bees like hers?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So you know what you see? Most beehives are white, Yeah,
to reflect the heat in the summer tone. Yeah, and uh,
maybe they just thought he's like them white. Maybe now
we're starting to see multiple colors out there, and so
my question was do they have a favorite color? And
it wasn't really when it comes to painting it, but
they do like the earthy colors more. And the earthy
(40:14):
colors don't get heat up quite as much in the summer,
but they helped to warm it up a little bit
more in the winter.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
So it's kind of like their heating system and their
air conditioner.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yes, those little bees are so smart bees? Are they are? They?
Did you know that they can take their wings and
pull them, disengage them really so that they buzz in
a different So they buzz just well they buzzed, just
a buzz to he create the heat. Because if they
were engaged in their shoulders, then they would fly and
(40:44):
then they hide would just fly away. I'm just kidding
you on that, but but they would they would fly
if they if they were had the wings on normally
because that's how they fly.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
So you should write a book called a Bees Complicated.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Not me, but the Queen Bee Show. Somebody should.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh, you could write a book the Ant doctor. He
had all these facts about ants.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You were you'd be talking Yeah, I mean when he
was on, you'd be talking ants for a month. You
probably were great at a party. Oh yeah, By the way,
did I tell you about these?
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
My favorite story is if there's a lot of heavy
rains and the bee population is just getting swamped, the
queen not the bee. The queen ant will get all
the male worker bees and they're all male arms, create
a raft and the queen ant will sit on top
(41:41):
of them. They'll float away to dryer land and start
their new colony.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
And I asked what ant did you involve in an
interview for that time?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Who did you talk to? What you talk to?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Do you have their phone number?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Are you going to talk about almond brumen today?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Ron, We're gonna talk about paint, paint disposal and all
kinds of good tips and cleaning for the holidays.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Thank you so much. I'll make it easy, mister Gary Sullivan.
Garysullivan online dot com. Thank you, sir, you bet alrighty,
Thanks all our colors, thanks to our sponsors, Thanks of
course to uh Danny Glease and our producer, because without
Danny Glease, none of the stuff of happens. So Danny
as always, thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favor. Keep planting those trees, keep
planting those native plants. Get out there and start doing
(42:28):
the holiday porch pots and your containers. Keep pamper your worms.
You can still keep adding organic matter. Be pollinator friendly
and pollinator polite, get the kids involved with gardening, and
by all means making the best weekend of your life.
See it. How is your guardian growing?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three.
Talk you are listening to in the Garden with Ron
Wilson
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