Ron Wilson 11/8/2025 Hour 3

THE last Buggy Job Boggs report of the year.  Also, we check in with our friend Gary Sullivan.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
H our toll free number eight hundred eight two three

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eight two five five And as I promise, we have
an extended whoa easy Now they're so exciting, hid they
are so excited because we have an extended version of
the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. And so that it's an

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extended because did you know every winner Joe goes into
a little winter hibernation. And this is going to be
Joe's last segment for twenty twenty five. But you know,
we you know he's got to take the winner off
and he comes back in the springtime. But I'm gonna
slow down for a second because it is Joe Boggs,
Assistant Professor of Commercial Horticulture educator for the Ohio State

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University Extension an Issue Department of Entomology. He is the
poster boy for the OSU Extension. I used to call
him the Hank Kimball of Hamilton County. Hank Kimball of
Hamilton County. He co created Mathra Coffee Emporium where every
cup of Buggy Joe's Boldest King of dor he gets
smoothest Jummeran. His website is byg L dotsu id Eed

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you ladies and gentlemen. Mister common sense. It called himself
Buggy Joe Boggs.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Man, I'll tell you what an interest had that interest
before we just started eight every.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Time right, all the time, and before we even get started,
I'm gonna get the sappy stuff out of the way.
Thank you for everything you do what thank you for
all you do. Thank you for all of the issue
Extension does. Every year you have, you have blessed us
with great information. You know, it takes a lot. You
dedicate yourself on Saturday mornings to UH to doing this show,

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and we can't thank you enough for doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was telling them, I always love calling you ahead
of time because I never know what direction we're going.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Even once I start, We don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Dan asked me before this segment comes on. He says,
are you ready? Are you prepared to say no, I'm
never prepared for this segment.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's a lot of fun, but really funny.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
We've had a good time and I think you know
uh and we always do and we'll continue to have
a good time. But I said, you know, told Dan
this morning, I said, you know, Joe and Rita and
I have known each other the three of us since
the early nineties, and I said, yeah, I've worked together
off and on through you know, doing sharing information on
these shows. And I said, it's a get the trio here.

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We've been been together quite some time.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Pretty much. You know, you could almost say we're just
all hatched together, right. I mean, it really does feel
that way because you and I started and then Rita
was right there too early in my century career, and
so so honestly, Rob, when I think about it, and
then I have been thinking about it a lot lately,
you know when every year, you know, when the winter

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comes in and and I take this little hiatus, a
little few pati as we say in the entomology circles,
you know, I always start thinking about a little bit,
get a little modeling, right, you know, because it's it.
It does mean a lot to me, and I know
it does to you too, that we've been doing this
for so long and really having a lot of fun

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with it. I mean, that's the I think that is
the biggest take home with this, is it?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I've been asked this. I've been asked, well, do you
all get together beforehand and talking? And no, no, we're
not really sure where we're going to go with a segment.
And and so when we're laughing when we're doing what
we do, it's it's it's genuine because it's just like
we're talking with each other on the front porch and.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Two old men with their overall is on, we're hitting
that lawn.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Were yes, and an errated lawn at that right.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, it's been regrassed that I don't know, regrassed.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's a new horticultural thanks to Steve Hawkins. Regrassed.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah. So it is a lot of fun. But I'll
tell you we're gonna we're gonna continue to be modeling
right through all these extra segments that I'm enjoying and
I do want to cover. I do have one thing, uh,
and that is a summary of what we saw this
year through the eyes of the bagele. What you like

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that by the people.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
By the way, so folks understand, this OSU Extension has
a group that gets together and then they have all
this information available for you. And it's called the Beagle
b y g L. It's not a dog, it's called
beagle and it's the Buckeye yard and yard Landscaping was
a b y Buckeye yard and landscape line right landscape

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like yeah, anyway, and so it's b yg L dot
issue dot eu and you can go there your yourself
can go there. You don't have to be a professional
in the industry, and you can get their their bulletins
and you can read all their past postings and learn
a heck of a lot of stuff. Uh, just going
to that website. So if you don't do that, if
you haven't done that, sign up, go there and check

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it out. B y g L dot O s U
dot EEDU And that's what Joe and the whole team
put together, all this information for you. And all the
past postings are there, all the current postings are there.
When something you know comes up and it's you know,
Joe's same stuff Joe sends me and everybody else will
show up there and you'll get it as well. So

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you know, it's a it's a great, great website to
go to, great way to learn. Even this winter, you
could go there and just kind of scroll through and
continue to learn things and they're all dated and timely
in the all nine yards. And you know, so when
next year comes along, you kind of knew what was
going on last year at that time.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
So you know I have mixed felings because well, well
no I have. It's it just occurred to me. Now
wait a second, people are going to find out, you know,
where I get all my information? You know I I
I won't. I won't appear as smart. But speaking of smart,
that's Schicklehoff. It's just with a issue extent in Putnam

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County came up with a wonderful idea ro on and
and truthfully, I think you've mentioned it before as well.
I others have mentioned doing something along these lines. So
we've added another another posting, weekly posting and hopefully we
can keep up with it through the winter because we're
trying out some different technology. And when I say hopefully

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keep up with it is because it may be once
a week. Hopefully it stays once a week. But I
just have to warn everybody, well, we're trying some different
ways to do this, and that is that every Tuesday
morning we do have a gathering of myself and my
extension colleagues and under the heading of a team it's

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called the Buckeye Environmental Horticulture Team, and that means we
just talk about horticulture things and that on that zoom,
I should a call. On that zoom, it started out
as a phone call, but on that zoom that's exactly
what we do. We talk about what we're seeing and
then what we might recommend people do about what we're seeing.

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You know, if we're seeing an insect problem or disease issues.
Sometimes there are no answers. We're just reporting that, you know,
something is occurring and and we don't know what is
causing it. We're looking into blah blah blah. But at
the end of that gathering though, we're starting to put
together a summary and you may have seen it. It's

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a very quick thing. It just has listed, you know,
like one, two, three, four. But these were the things
that we discussed on that zoom and that was I
want to again give credit to Best because she pointed
out that, you know, we discuss a lot of things,
and we report a lot of things that don't actually
get into the buckeyeyard and garden line that that we

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don't actually write up and alert and this this lets
everyone know, Okay, what are some of those things that
are happening. So it's certainly in my opinion in riches.
You know, what the big Old brings to people and
they allege I keep referring to it's just simply it's
difficult to take notes when you're all gathered like that,

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as you can imagine, because it's an open discussion and
we don't want somebody setting off into the corner, you know,
figurely speaking, you know, just taking notes describe. We want
everybody to be engaged. So we're trying out some technology
that takes notes for us to help. Yes, I know,
it's just it's kind of scary. Who knows what's going

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to be produced? Yeah, so just go to the bucking Yard.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
And I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, what said that?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I didn't say what.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
What about Michigan?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, I didn't say that either. All right, we got
to take a break. We come back. We've already used
up one of our three segments. We come back, we
will come a quick recap of what we saw this
year through the eyes of the and then in the
final segment, we're going to have the Lightning Round with
Buggy Joe Boggs. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 2 (12:46):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of three parts of the Buggy Joe
Boggs Report Joe boggsillish you extension of course the website
bygl dot ish you, dot eat you. Now, let's do
a little quick summary of what we saw in twenty
twenty five. Mister Jill Boggs.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, I'll tell you, I think we have to lead
off at least in our region, maybe southern Ohio and
point South. That I mean, the big news this year.
And it's isn't it a funny help By the end
of the season, something is really big. He sort of
goes by the wayside. We kind of forget about it.
The emergence of brood fourteen of the seventeen year periodical
ca Caadas. This is a pretty big brood. And like

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I said, it didn't extend all the way up into
the Columbus, Ohio area, but it did go, you know,
through southern Ohio and point South. And you know, we
posted five big old alerts about it. Everything from a
new fact sheet. And that's something else that was kind
of big news in my opinion this year is are

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the number of fact sheets that came out regarding different
topics and just a little quick note. I was just
teaching master gardeners on Thursday and went through this. It
did occur to me that it's a good idea maybe
to separate. If people go to the big ole online
resource and look at these different alerts, they do look

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like like miniature fact sheets. Because the fact sheet is
just as it says it's about. It's a you know,
it's a sheet that has facts in it. What do
you think of that?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wrong? I like that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, that's exactly smart, man.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I tell you it. Just I had I've had a
lot of coffee. That's what does it. But it's a
fact sheet is meant to be something. It's a little
more static. It's we produce them. Uh. They cover specific
topics and then they don't change their you know, kind
of like bedrock. Okay, the big old alerts though those

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are intended to be what's happening today. Uh. For example,
from here on out, if we do post about about
periodical caitas, we can reference back to this fact sheet
for some of the foundation and formation. So that's what
that's all about. But we did five postings on the
emergency of the periodical cicadas, including one pointing out that

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the flagging from this year, and what do they mean
by flagging. It's where the females lay their eggs in
the very tiny twigs and stems, not large stems, but
small stems of a tree. The user of a positively
split the bark put the eggs in the air, and
that can cause that stem to die and then it
turns brown and it looks like somebody's you know, tied

(15:31):
on the flagging us for you know, different purposes. The
you know you and I grew up with that idea,
sometimes for surveying, but any rate. So so that's going
to be with us next year. There will be still
flagging that will appear because these these stems may take
a while to die and they may continue to break
for a while. So that was big news. And then

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another kind of pseudo big news was we have periodical
cicadas that take anywhere from thirty team to seventeen years
to complete their development from eggs to new adults. They
emerge in huge numbers that we call broods. But every
year we have some other cicadas. They're called annual cicadas.

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Now they take two to three years to complete their development. However,
there are overlaps within the same species, so get we
get an emergence every year of some of the periodical
or of some of the annual cicadas. But the big
news is its primary nemesis is called the cicada killer wasp,
which is one of the largest wash that we have

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in Ohio. It's not the largest, frankly one of the
largest wash we have in North America. So it's a
big wasp. And you and I talked about this over
the last four or five years, how they just didn't
seem to be out there in the numbers that were
used to. In this past season, I got a lot

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of emails and pictures about cicada killer wafts. So the
annual cicadas, of course their primary food supply, we're out
there in large numbers, but it looks like their nemesis
is catching up bagworms. I don't need to say more,
do I. No, you know that's another one that has

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that came and went in the way of If you
look over the last few years, bagworms and I'm gonna
have to do this fall web worm. Those are two
native pests that we used to just see with large
numbers and over the last few years, I'm sorry caterpillar
in there, well, oh my goodness, yes, you got to

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throw eastern ten and we're talking about eastern all three.
Eastern tink caterpillar. Think about this, Think cherries and think
you know forks of you know, branch forks. So in
the spring, eastern tink caterpillar appears, produces these webs, pretty
dense webs in branch forks, primarily on cherries. Now they

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can appear on other trees, but there's only one generation,
and it's in the spring. Fall web worm. You can
find their nests, their silk webbing all the way out
on the ends of branches where they'll pull together a
lot of leaves and they only feed on those leaves
that are in that are encased in webbing. There are
two generations, so we see them in the summer, and

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then we see the second generation in the fall. Us
then ain't fall webworm? Bagworms are these little moth caterpillars
that live in a little like it looks They really
do look a lot like a pine cone. I mean,
I hate to do that, but these little cone like
sacks of silk that they that they interweave in which

(18:51):
they interweave pieces of their hosts. Right, so they're in
they're in the summer. There they go from usually sometime
in June up until the end of August and early
September or thereabouts. So those three native paths. In the
past we've had big outbreaks. We've seen them, you know,

(19:11):
just kind of continue to rise a year after year,
it seemed. But over the last several years, Eastern tent caterpillar,
well they collapsed a few years ago. That's an enomological
term we use. That's that means the population just went
down to where you hardly see them now. They still,
in my opinion, have not recovered by any means. I

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didn't even get any hot spots this year in Ohio
where people say.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh, well, you're running out of time.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Another break, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
We'll take you back.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Gosh, I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Big break. We're going to come back with a lightning
round for Buggy Joe Boggs and whatever else we can
work in. And then last segment here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson, how is your garden growing?

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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Welcome back, you're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part three of the Buggy Joe Boggs. Youport don't forget.
Their website is b y g L dot OSU dot edu.
Will you finished up with yet ten caterpillars fall web worm?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know, yeah, I guess. Just the final point about
that is that all three, oh you know, over winters
eggs and they all three then can have some low
temperature thresholds. That's particularly true for bagworms. So one thing
that you, I mean, you and I have talked about
this several times. You know, way back when we had

(22:28):
the polar vortex moved down, temperatures fell so low that
they dropped below what the eggs for bagworms could survive
in the winter, and that's that caused a real, you know,
a real intense drop in the numbers of bagworms we
had the following year. So, you know, these three native insects,

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native moths, they are tied very closely, you know, to
what our winter might be like. And that's not always
true for all insects. It doesn't mean when we have
really cold temperatures that we're just going to have fewer insects.
Some are sensitive, some aren't, and so that's really the
as you can tell, I'm delaying as long as I
can before the lightning round because I know you are

(23:12):
going to throw.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
This is where we learn the true buggy Joe ball. Remember,
I'm going to give you two options here, Joe and.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
You you're breaking up. I really can't hear you.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You pick you pick your favorite option? All right? Okay,
I'm gonna start out with an easy one. You don't
have to explain anything, Just pick your favorite option.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Bailey is the music.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Waitnte, here we go? You ready?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Bailey's okay al ready?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Or Buffalo trace cream.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh my gosh, well I have to go with the
Buffalo trace cream.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's it, see, very very simple. Robbert fly or spotted
lantern fly.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
No, now wait a second, what what what do I mean?
Is there not a prize?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I meant you just on Robert fly or spotted lanterns.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Fantastic Robbert fly. Of course, my lantern flies not a fly.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
We just I don't want explanations.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Do you like that? That's okay? Robber flies?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Robert fly? My favorite glazed or chocolate covered.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Glaze. Did that surprise you?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
No? Not at all. Likings or stock.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Oh that is Oh that's a killer, right, I have
to go with Nostock commune.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I knew you would just slipped, just slipped on him
this year and staying in there. Great. Sorry, all right,
Kathy Ireland, Barbie Benton.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh gosh, okay, I guess Ireland, because I mean that
that goes back aways, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Only you? I'm just dating you there a little bit. Yeah,
bat landing on your head or falling into an orb
we were spider.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Web, Oh my goodness, both, because you know, I think
I thought both were happening when someone gave me a
little shoved forward the web.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I will never ever forget that as long as I live.
And I still laugh to this day watching you backstep
to get away from Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
You never knew that I could hit that high note.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
No, I did not. You and Michael Jackson, all right,
you ready squirrel's brain and gravy or gravy, hot sausage,
gravy and biscuits.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh I gotta go hot sausage. I mean I know
that surprises you.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
That did surprise me.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, yes, I know.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yellow jacket sting or a bald faced hornet sting.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Oh that is terrible. That is a. I mean, you know,
we want to say neither, I had to say, I
have to say bald faced hornet sting.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
You'd rather have that in the yellow jacket?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, no, it's just okay, there's one of those things
that it's such a fascinating thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't want to hear that. That's not what I.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Know.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
All right, Uh, let's see here, Emerald Ashbour or Asian
longhorn beetle.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm gonna go with Asian long caird beetle.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Interesting, I didn't guess that one. But you're a boiler maker.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Oh well, goodness sakes, buck eye.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Just trying to forget it.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Some folks don't know. Well that's right, that's right. Well
my my father in law is a boiler maker.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And so yeah, that's that's pretty that's pretty tough.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yes, Culver's burger king.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh gosh, Calvers, I'm sorry, I just believe I did that.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Gee, I did you just talked about this? Which is interesting.
I have this on my list. Cicadas or cicada killer.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Wasps both have to go. The wasps. Actually, they are
fascinating creatures.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Honey badger, wolverine.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Oh, honey, badger. I mean there's another such thing as
a ol over.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm just telling you. People know all about buggy joe bugs,
insects or diseases.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Uh, entomology insects. Because you can't see disease causing organisms.
You have to just take their word for it.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Okay, ant lions or leaf galls.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh oh you did it there, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, we're getting serious.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah again, I mean this is oh man, that's like
picking between two kids, two of your own kids. Yeah yeah,
I have to say, Okay, I'm gonna have to do it.
Galls are going to top everything.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I had it. I had it right, I knew you.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Right, Maryann or Ginger. Jerry says Marianne, and everybody says, uh,
leave the leaves or clean up the leaves.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh, leave the leaves except well wait wait, I just
I have to say, you didn't put this in there.
Leave the leaves, but use a mulching mower.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
There you go, got it? All right, you're ready? Here
we go, Magic carpet ride, Born to be.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Wild, magic carpet Why right, can't even say it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
And last but not leave you ready?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
The Ohio State University, University of Michigan.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh my gosh, what the last you? I mean, what
do you mean? University of the Ohio State University. I mean,
what could we say?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
You can say whatever you want, because that's the last one.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, we're not talking about we're not talking about little colleges,
you know, kind of lesser, lesser institutions of lower education.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, I think the one that you really surprised me
on was the squirrel brains and gravy versus hot sausage,
gravy and biscuits.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Well, I'll tell you it's it's because I've had some
fantastic sausage, gravy and biscuits in my time and recently,
I mean, because you know, that kind of went away
for a while and didn't I mean back now. I
like it, but it's sort of it's oh yeah, So
I have to say with with just the diversity of

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the different types of Oh man, I'm sorry, I'm getting
so hungry here. I'm just gonna you're just gonna hear
a click.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
That's all right, because it's the end of the second
buggy Joe Boggs going into winter hibernation. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
There we go to.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Face out with a little magic.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Thank you so much, oh, thank you, thank you for
all you do. Ron seriously can't say enough.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And we will talk the magic copper right and we
will talk to you in twenty twenty six. Have a
great winter.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I appreciate it absolutely, Bud. Do you take care of
go buck?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
All right, go bucks? Quick break. We come back a
little home improvement from the man that met the legend,
maybe even out of clean our magic carpet. Gary Sullivan
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 2 (32:21):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson in
his time for a little home improvement from the man,
the myth, the legend. He is the most listened to
home improvements show, host of the entire solar system. His website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the
only Gary Summer.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
And a big how do you do to you, mister Wilson.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I can't wait to come up with a lightning ground
for Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Oh boy, that was pretty good, though. You are a
creative man.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's I think it would be fun. I think you know.
I'll forewarn you a week in advance. O, please do
I get the cheat sheet?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
No cheat given more than a week, run more than
a week, No cheat sheet.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
But you know that's good.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I can't handle it.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
You and Joe and I are the same age. So
let me ask you one of his questions. Kathy Ireland
or Barbie Benton?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Could it be a draw?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
It can be, absolutely. It was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Solid got two arms there you go.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh my, So what are we talking about this week?
You know, safety in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Don't start on my damns my kitchen.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Christmas lighting.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
In seven days, we've had Wi Fi issues Wi Fi
the Wi Fi crash totally and the new router extenders.
The element on the then caught fire.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
What were you cooking?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
What? It was just warming it up? And I'm sitting
at the counter and I'm like, whoa, there are sparks
and flames in our ovens. So jumped up. Turned that
off and a little crack in the ceramic element. And
then we have the ongoing battle with the Refrigeratorfore Carl,
we got to the source of that problem. So anyway,

(34:26):
how's your life?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Which was the mouse stuck in the face wasn't.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
A mouse, And it was a couple of things wrong.
The refrigerates every bit of year and a half old. Wow, yeah, covered,
thank goodness. But heater was bad, the frost heater, the
and then ice was building up and it just goes
on and on because sideways wasn't in a proper position anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
So you tore it all apart and fixed it.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Nope, nope, I knew what it was, but I'm not
tearing an applying.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So he called the brothers and they came out and
toward them.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
They had ge service underwarning, so they took care of it.
It's taken three calls to take care of it, but
they've taken care of it, or they will take care
of it. He goes like, I gotta get a bunch
of parts. I'll be here all afternoon. So Thursday we'll
see if we can get it put back together again.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
So you had to eat out.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
We've eaten out and we're living out of a little
bar refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh good.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
So everything went down to my son's house and we
just buy what we need for the day.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So now he hope that your refrigerator goes out all
the time. No, I hate it, no, he hopes.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Oh he yeah, you think i'll get a that food back?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Gone already?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think I think it's probably gone.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Was there any beer involved?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, beer can be warm, you don't drink it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
But okay, right, well, I've just meant if you took
it down there, you know that's gone.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Oh well, I'm a little smarter than that.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, all right, Well I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean, give me a little credit.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I didn't know. So you know, in all sincerity, in
that kitchen, if if I have a fire extinguisher, is
there a better one to have for the kitchen or
are they all the same?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well they are, but you know, in and oven it's
pretty self contained. I'm sure I could have got out
of hand. I just got up, literally and just turned
the oven off. But that's the first thing Sue said too.
I said, do you know where that fire extinguisher ses? Yeah, yeah,
it's in the lunder room. Okay, just checking with you.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Did you know where it was? Yoh yeah, sure, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
And probably one of the best ones out there right now.
It's a first I think it's first alert or kitty
either one. They probably both make them by now. And
it's like an aerosol fire extinguisher, which is maybe thirty
ounce can and it actually has as much propellant and
as a decent size pulled a pin fire extinguishers. It's

(36:58):
an ABC fire extinguisher and uh probably out to have
it underneath the cabinet in the kitchen. We do not.
We have it in the launder your rooms right on
the other side, and that's where it's at. But yeah,
I knew where it was. I was ready. I was ready.
I was just sitting there going like, did I just
see a flash for some reason out of the corner?
Did I just see it? Oh? Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yes, for some reason in my mind, I see you
with that fire extinguisher as though you would have the
power washer in your hands.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, one of the things too. And they leave a residue,
so you know, you don't want to get too crazy
with it. But if you got a fire, the residue
is better than the alternative, right, Yes, but you also
got to know where your limitations are too. I'm sure
any fireman would tell you. That fire fighter would tell

(37:47):
you that no, when to stop, no when to call,
but base of the fire sweeping motion. And yeah, I wasn't.
I thought it was pretty contained, never really got bad,
but it scared me.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well, I guess.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, anytime you have a fire inside the house when
it's not scary, that's not good. This fire supposed to
be here.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, well, we do have a couple of wasp that
have been showing up. No, it's so good. There's a
wasp in here somewhere, or there's a nest in here somewhere.
I go, well, it's gonna go down to like twenty tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, I think they'll last too much longer.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Of course they're if they're in the attic, maybe they
go a little longer.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I'll keep you fully informed.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well on the edge, I actually I'm sitting on the
edge of the seats as we speak. I'm just curious,
you know, because I know we we probably have one
fire extinguisher in our house. You probably should have them
in the laundry room and the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
And I got one down the shop in the basement.
I got one in the garage.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
You have a workshop in the basement, Yeah you do,
I do what do you do?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Okay, I store my tools all.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's why I I kept thinking, look at him.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I just go.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I just go down and grunt.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Sometimes I cut some wood to get the smell.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I like that, I really do like that.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh man, it's the best, isn't it. Yeah. Sometimes you
just go cut up a couple of shelf boards just
for giggles.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, just to smell that. For actually cut wood.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Then you walk up the steps going.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
With a little bit of on your shoes. Oh yeah,
your pants.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well then I get yelled at.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well, yeah, Gary's just all that's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Here, Gerry, what is this stuff? Why are you so messy?
You ever get that? No? Don't you know? I have
a problem when I make coffee every morning. I don't
get all the green grounds are coffee in the little cup,
the little bucket, you know, and there's a couple of
coffee grounds on the floor. Oh yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It's just the opposite of our house.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Oh yeah, you tall.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Hard, probably a little bit more, a little bit neater.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah. I I denied it for a while, and then
I started realizing that when I was putting the grounds
in the coffee, you know filter, maybe some would get
on the edge of the coffee. Maker, and I may
have just off with my hand. I may have may
have just then she had to ask me, did you

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just think they were going to disappear?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
No, no, you think it.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, they did disappear from my coffee maker.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Well they're not on the counter, that's right. Yeah, I'm improving.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, I'm gonna plead the I'm gonna plead that case today.
I'm sure. I'm sure do.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Me a lot of good, you say. I'm in home
improvement and I'm improving.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I'm trying. Of course, everything keeps breaking and I get
a you know, either fix it like all the whole
Wi Fi thing, or I don't do appliance as though.
But I have done a couple of toilets and drain
and Wi Fi in the last two weeks. We're in
one of the those periods you you know about those

(41:03):
what where things just kind of slide. Oh yeah, yeah,
thinks you know, we got a roll going on. I
think there's a prize at the end of it, you think, so,
I don't know, maybe I need one of those little vacuums.
Maybe that would be a surprise that Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Those are pretty nice too, right, Just curious were are
just a few weeks out from the that major purchase.
Will it be cut or artificial this year?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
You know, we haven't disgusted yet, but I think it's
going to go up early this year because we have
a couple of early events at the house, so we
haven't really discussed it. I don't know how's the Christmas
tree market this year.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I have not heard if it's good or bad. Yeah,
but we'll find out and we'll learn together. We'll learn together.
There you go, Gary Sullivan, always a pleasure you keep
cleaning up those coffee grounds.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I will try to be a bitter boy.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
We appreciate, We appreciate that, and go get some sawdust
on you. There you go, all right, Gary Slivin coming
up next his website, Gary Soman online dot com. Thanks
to all of our colors, Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of
course to Danny Gleeson, our producer, because without Danny Gleeson,
the Durango Kid, none of this stuff would happen. So Danny,
thank you so much for all that you do to
make it all happen. Now do yourself a favor. Don't

(42:15):
let the wintry mix tomorrow and the next day mess
you up. As far as gardening, still plenty of time
to get out and plant those trees. Plant a tree
or two or three. Keep planting those native plants, native selections,
keep planting those pollinator plants. Be friendly, pollinator polite, get
the kids and dogs involved with gardening, and by all means,
make it the best weekend of your life. See you dream,

(42:43):
Tom or not.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
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