March 8, 2025 • 44 mins
Ron offers his expert advice and takes your calls. The southern gardener, Gary Bachman checks in.
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Alright, toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding, moving our way into
the month of March. The little reality check this week
weather wise, cool down, a bit, little windy, a little
quick shower here and there, a little bit of snow
in the morning. Uh, but you know what it's Uh,
(01:00):
it's gonna get warmer. And I'm looking at long term
ron rothis are certified arbust and hobby meteorologists sent me
some long term maps and things like that, and looks
like after this weekend we're looking pretty darn good for
a while. So that's good. I'll take it. I just
hope it doesn't get too warm. And by the way,
(01:20):
no cup of Joe this morning. He has the weekend off,
so he is not here. So it's well deserved, always
well deserved. So it's Danny and me talking this morning.
And by the way, just before we just so I
don't forget about it, And I wrote myself a big
note here, little reminder, something special happens tomorrow morning at
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two o'clock. What would that be, Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's not my birthday yet, so I'd say the time change.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Time change is correct. Birthday? You have a birthday coming up?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, number forty eight on Sunday to sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The sixteenth of March is your birthday. Yeah, I'll be
dog gone.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You didn't know, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I I just you know what, now that you said that,
I do kind of remember that. It's a I appreciate that. Man.
You're just You're just a little about a week away
or so here.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I'm taking that day off from here because I'm
going to use it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and you welcome cards, gift cards.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Gift cards, small bills on mark bills.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Small on marked bills. Change, Yeah, can be mailed right
here to the iHeart Studios, Montgomery, Ohio, and Dan will
be more happy to except your birthday cards. Yes, from
his loving fans out there. So, anyway, we changed the
clock back, so, as your favorite on air host would say,
Danny Boy, changes of time daylight saving time back to
(02:46):
the regular Eastern standard time. Uh, give me a full report.
How do you feel about that? In the words of
your favorite air on air host.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I can't say it the way he would say
it because I might get fined and I'll have to
dump it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But it used to bug me, but now it doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So it doesn't matter to you whether.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
We're I mean, there's always so much talk about, oh,
we're gonna change it, we're gonna keep it one thing,
and then it never happens.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's true. President Trump's been talking about that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and then he said the other day, well, we
might not do it politicians.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, well what can I say?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Do you have a preference of either the daylight Saving
time or the standard Eastern Standard Time?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I prefer the saving you do, Yeah, but you lose
an hour sleep. See you gain it back in later
in a year, though.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
True, So you like it. So you're good with a
switching and you would rather have the one that's coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Absolutely, all right, that's your thoughts. All I want to do,
and again refresh my memory. Your birthday, I know, is
coming up fairly quickly. That would be.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
March March sixteenth, sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, Yeah, I forgot already, sixteenth of March, just a
little bit over a week away, ladies and gentlemen. So yeah,
And he's right here in Kinwood, Ohio. iHeartMedia eighty forty
four Montgomery Road, Sweet six fifty, Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
By the way today, Yes, I was laughing there.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I saw you. By the way. Today is my
youngest daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And well, happy birthday to her.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and I think she's running in whatever. Is that
the Bockfest run something this morning or something downtown, so
I don't know, but she's some kind of a run
this morning. She does that a lot, So happy birthday
to her. All right. No Joe struck her today. So
you are stuck with me with a cup of Joe
talking about kicking off there with the weather, and we
have in me and Danny, and we've had kind of
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a you know, one of those things about you know,
a little check, a little check there on, don't get
two aces here. And that's my whole point, as I
will say every Saturday as we go through the next
month and a half or so, is that I'll take
the gradual warm up. I'll still take the cooler weather,
the cooler soil temperatures. You put the two of those
together kind of keeps plants a little bit tighter. They
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don't break too fast. We don't have to worry so
much about that last minute temperature drop later in the
season spring season. So I'll take the cooler, slower warm
up in the springtime versus you can just let it,
let it rip and then go on. Now we are
looking at temperatures like tomorrow, I think pushing almost sixty degrees,
but nighttime temperature is going back down and that's a
(05:29):
good thing. We'll stick with that. But do remember as
we start to look through the gardening season, the spring
season and getting things started, and you know, and what's
going to happen when things are going to break. We
watch the air temperatures, We watch for frost, we watch
for freezes and all of that, which is great. And
you know when it comes to like tender annuals in
that if we plant it too early we get a frost,
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we can cover them up, we can spray them off,
we can protect them. But the thing we don't seem
to spa spend as much time with it which we
should be, and that's watching this soil temperatures. So again
I will put my reminder out to you this morning
that you know, at this point for where we start
watching soil temperatures, you don't have to watch them every day.
You can go look at it every three or four
days and see where we are because uh, and I say,
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go look at them, because you've got a couple options.
You can do a soil thermometer, Danny, you know the
dirt between a soil thermometer and an oral thermometer.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, one of them you stick in your mouth, the
other one you stick in your soil.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well that's true, but there's one other difference. The soil
thermometer tastes like dirt.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I like that, okay, And so you know you can
use a soil thermometer and check that, you know, every
day if you like. But you can go online. It's
very easy. Pull up your cell phone, get the computer out, whatever,
go to a green cast g R, E, E, N C,
A S T dot com and they have soil moisture
meter or yeah, so moisture maps there. They have soil
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temperature maps and all kinds of stuff. And you put
your talent in there and your zip code and guess what.
It comes back to you with current soil temperature averages
in your town, the last twenty four hours average in
your town, and the last five day average. And then
if you get really good, you click up to get
a chart and you can see what has been like
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over the last year up the ups and downs to
give you a better feel as far as past averages,
if that's important to you to and I think it is,
to watch the soil temperatures because if you're planting vegetables,
very very important cool season crops. I always use the
breaking point of forty five degrees consistently in the soil
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for planting. Somebody was asking me the other day about
planting potatoes. You know, when can I get potatoes planted
in the ground, And you know, Saint Patti's Day used
to be like the kickoff or planting potatoes in the ground,
because usually by about that point in our area and
our zone. And again remember make sure you know what
zone you're gardening in. We happen to be in six
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A and B, but know you're gardening zone as well,
because that can help you a little bit as far
as look at it over all temperatures. But remember that
that zone is based on your average coldest winter temperatures.
But it's always good to know what zone you are
planting in, especially when it comes to trees and shrubs
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and hardy plants. But anyway, I like to you look
at about forty five degrees consistently soil temperatures all right,
air temperatures. If the soil temperatures are consisting like that,
air temperatures are typically consistent as well or higher. Okay,
that's where I take a look at and I say, okay,
once we get to that point, I'm good to go.
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To start with potatoes. They're an early crop. The broccoli,
the cabbages, the kales, you know, the early things, the
onions that can plant. Take that really cool soil temperatures,
and as it continues to warm, then we start looking
at the warmer season, things like tomatoes and peppers and
the petunias and the annuals and things like that. So
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we watched this all temperatures for that and then so
I like I say, forty five degrees. It's typically my
breakpoint for starting to think about planting plants in the
in the air, vegetables in the ground. Now, regular trees
and shrubs and evergreens and roses and perennials and ornamental
grasses and all that can we're good to go. You
have been released and ready to start planting as long
(09:24):
as you can get out and work in the soil.
And you look around right now, you'll see a lot
of landscape crews getting a start already, doing a lot
of clean up, a lot of bed edging, things like that,
but also planting. So as long as the soil is workable,
not too wet, you know, especially if it's soggy, I
want to stay off of it. But not too wet,
you're ready your go. You're released. Let her rip. As
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a matter of fact, planting early like that, like that now,
tree shrubs, flower shrubs, whatever may be, evergreens, they come
back to life in other words, you know, coming back
to life in the springtime, just like they normally would,
rather than being staying in a greenhouse or whatever through
the spring and being forced out of it earlier, et cetera,
et cetera. So you've got you know, you got the
free rain to go start planting. Not an issue there.
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But again, watch the soil temperatures and it's green cast
online dot com and forty five degrees plus for those
cool seasoned crops that will tolerate the colder temperatures. Potatoes
hate cold, wet soils, and if you start too early
and it stays wet, cold and wet together does not work,
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especially for potatoes. So if you want to get an
earlier crop and then maybe plant in another two or
three weeks when we get a little more consistently into
the weather. Think about planting them in containers. You can
get a nice crop and it looks kind of nice
too in a large container by just planting a potato
or two in the bottom. And I have a tip
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sheet on how to do that. You can email me
and i'll get the tip sheet back to you. I
first started doing this, and then we'll take a break
and i'll tell you more about it. After the break,
we'll talk about our webs right as well. But I
first started doing this thirty years ago, growing them in containers,
and I always called it Tater's in a basket. Tater's
in a basket, And I'll tell you why after the break.
Got lots of guests today coming up at the bottom
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of the hour. We got Gary Gary Bachman, the Southern Gardener,
will be with us. Top of the hour read a
hiking Felt will be with us. Bottom of that hour.
We got Steven Folks the Golden Finger from the Cystanti
Botanical Gardener Zoo. And of course we also have Gary
Selbyn with a little home improvement in between Danny Gleeson.
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Speaker 1 (14:44):
Talking to Yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. Joe Strecker off this weekend, so no
cup of Joe, so you were stuck with me on
the first half. But talking about uh, all right, we'll
talk about a website here real quick, but I wanted
to finish up talking about potatoes. Planting potatoes and you know,
planting them in baskets and if this is something that's
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really cool. As a matter of fact, we have Reda
coming on late in the show this morning, and she
used to do this a lot with her grandkids because
it was great because you get I used to do
it in bushel baskets, the produce baskets, and then they
got so expensive because it would last a couple of years.
When you use them as a planting container, they will
start to rot easily and the next thing you know,
the bottom falls out, which you can just set them
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on the ground and use them that way, but the
cost was so much, and then I switched over to
like eighteen twenty five twenty twenty five gallon containers, black
nursery pots containers. And then of course there's so many
ways you could do it with chicken wire, make them
out of you can build, do it on top of
the ground with compost. And then somebody developed the potato
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tubes where you plant them in the tubes that can
grow out the sides, and then add little pockets on
the side. You get doors you open up and reach
in and grab potato. So many great things out there
todayto do that, but anyway I should do it, and
it called it tatoes in a basket, and it's very
simple to do, you know. And again in a bushel basket,
one potato seed potato if it has multiple eyes, and
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if you can get four or five pieces out of
one potato typically does the job for you. If you
want to do too, an overplant it, that's great. It
all works. But you put about four inches of soil
in the bottom of that basket, nestle those potatoes down
in that soil, and then cover them up with about
three or four more inches of soil, and in sunny area,
keep them watered well as needed, and they'll start to grow.
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And as they continue to grow and come up out
of that basket, you continue to refill around them. Now,
once you start to refill, what I typically would do
is take that potting soil that I'm using to refill
around them, and I would send a little granular fertilizer,
just a general garden food, you know, to mix in
with the soil slow release. So every time I added
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around them and had a little bit of fertilizer with
it as well, and you can filling it up as
they continue to grow. So yep, you're covering over the
stems that are coming up, You're covering over the leaves
that are coming up, always leaving about three or four
inches of the plant above as you're filling. And you
fill to the top of the basket. And once you
get to that point, you're done. And then you let
them grow and they'll pop out the sides and they'll
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grow are on the top and it's an okay looking
plant and they'll have a little flour in the summertime
and then when they start to turn yellow, you know,
and by the way, a little bit mid to late summer,
you can reach in there and start grabbing potatoes out
if you want, but leave them in there. The fully
starts to turn yellow as soon as it does. Cut
that off. You can turn them upside down, dump a mountain.
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You got a whole basket full of taters. So I
called it tato baskets. And like I say, there's so
many great ways to do it today, it's crazy, but
potatoes in containers is one of the easiest things to do.
It's crazy. And the potatoes are coming out of those
containers taste so darn good when they're fresh like that,
and again a great one for kids. Now, the thing
about the kids is it takes all sum to produce
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those potatoes, so they've got to wait, watching wait, But
it's fun when they do dump it out and finally
get those potatoes. But it's colltato's in a basket. And
that's a great way to get an early start on
growing potatoes. And I've got a tip sheet. If you're interested,
just email me and I will sending that back to
you as well. Our website is Ron Wilson online dot com.
Rita's recipe this week. As a matter of fact, don't
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forget Rita will be with us today talking about her
recipe and our herb of the week. We're doing every
other week with an herb of the week, But this
week her recipe is artichoke and spinach curry. Arti choke
and spinach curry. And we've got a picture on there
for you and the recipe for you as well. And
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I think the herb that we're going to talk about
will be curry. Very confusing. What is curry? Well, stay
tuned because at the top of the next hour, Rita
will explain to us what it is curry because you
see all kinds of different curry plans out there. But
is that are they all the same as what we
use for curry? Is that how we get Well, we're
gonna find out when we join with her in the
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next hour, So keep an eydea you're open for that one.
But again, her recipe of the week is artichoke and
spinach curry. Be sure to check that out. Our plant
pick of the week this week. Last week was the
winter annuals. Boy, are they starting to come up like crazy.
Snow's gone now, temperatures warming up slowly. Chickweed, purple dead
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netal hind bit, Harry bittercrests, bedstraw, pur s lane, annual bluegrass,
wild onions and garlic, wild parsis, and of course poisoned
demlock starting to show up as well as soon as
the weather starts to break. The ones that I mentioned previous,
the chickwee, purple dead netal, hind bit, harry bittercrests. Those
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you see quite a bit in the bear areas in
your lawn right now, you see also growing in your
annual areas. Do we remember that? Yep? You could spray
for them if you want to do that, but they
rake out very easily. They have little no root system.
So if you just rake them out their annuals and
pitch them, you're good to go. Those four particular weeds,
by the way, happen to be very nutritious, so if
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you can't beat them, you can't eat them, especially the chickweed.
And as as Rita has told me many many times,
chickweed also has appetite suppressing qualities, which, as you can
tell by looking at me, I do not eat chickweed.
There you have it, quick break, We come back around
talk with our southern gardener, Gary Bachman finds find on
(20:28):
what's going down in those zones eights, nines, and tens.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Not gardening questions.
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Be
sure and mark your counters. March the sixteenth, that would
be the Dragle kids birthday. Danny Gleeson. What is a
address again? Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Sweet six.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Fifty, Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Send your card, send your gift cards.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Two three six There you go. Yes, all right, and
that's coming up March the sixteenth again, all right, as
I promise, it's time for us to go down south
find out what is going on with those Southern gardeners.
With our Southern gardener himself. Of course we love. It's
called our Southern Garden Report. He is the head grower.
We're gonna go pass all that other stuff we used
to say about him. He's the head grower of Heritage
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Cottage Urban Nano Farm. And of course he has written
and you know all about it, the absolute one of
the absolute best books out there, called Southern Gardening All
year long, award winning you can't live without it, ladies
and gentlemen. His website is garydashgrows dot com, The One,
the Only Gary Bachman.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yes, sir, hey, good morning, ro What a great day
it is this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'll tell you man, that's what I like to hear.
All Right, So we got lots of we got lots
of talk about today, and you know, we have to
do more questions than time. But first of all, did
you did you recover from Marty Gras?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Actually yes, never really celebrated Marty Gras, you know, growing
up in that state, up you know, north of you guys,
you know, really didn't understand it. I enjoy everybody that
you know that does celebrate it. And I have to
tell you the King cake is one good tradition that
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that we do follow here in the Bachmann household.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, that's pretty tasty. There were three or four minutes
the nursery this week, and I enjoy those. I'm with
you on that one. Fortunately I didn't get that. I
don't you don't do you? Or do you not want
to get the baby that's baked into the cake?
Speaker 7 (24:55):
I really don't understand that. I does that mean that
you're going to have an other baby.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, I think. I don't know if that's a religious
I don't know. Rita will know when we talk. Just
keep listening. Rita will have She'll she'll fill us in.
She knows all those things. Talk about Gary Bakman, he
is our southern gardener. He is in the state of Mississippi.
What zone are you in, mister Backman.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
We are in zone nine A nine as our little
farm is about five miles directly north of the Gulf
of Mexico, So we are you know, basically I say
that we're.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Waterfront here, just a short walk, just a short walk,
that's right, or bike ride.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And of course the little garden and not little, the
ranch that you live on. Your plantation houses one hundred
and little less than one hundred and forty earth boxes,
that is, that is correct. And if I looked out
there today with the weather that we've had so far,
of course you're a little bit warmer than we are. Obviously,
what do I see growing in those boxes as of today?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
As of today, the only things I have out there,
because I'm transitioning into into the warms you are, well, yeah,
well we'll talk later about that, but but but I
do have bakchoi that I've let go to flower because
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it's a great pollinator plant for when you know, when
those bees are out on the warmer days. And I
do have I do have some kale that's still growing
and kind of getting to the end of that because
I want to start planting tomatoes. I mean, I have
a bunch of the micro tomatoes that are ready to
go in the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, now, when you are planting in those earth boxes, uh,
do you try to stick with more of the dwarf
varieties of vegetables that are out there? And the selection
today's phenomenal, It absolutely is.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I I have just really started looking at, if you
want to say, those micro those dwarf varieties. For years,
I've grown strictly the determinate tomatoes just because they're you know,
they're just they're just smaller structured plants. And that worked
really well with my with my growing style. But several
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years ago I started growing the micro tomatoes. You know,
they get at tops about eighteen inches tall. They make
full size cherry tomatoes. And I always say that they're
over producers or overachievers, because if you don't stake them
up in the earth boxes, the little plants will fall
over and there's so much, so many fruit on it,
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that they'll actually pull themselves out of the earth boxes.
It's kind it's kind of amazing to see.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That now when you're in zone nine like that. Do
you have to have a special selection of tomatoes or
do you use some basically some of the same ones
that we use. I know the gentlemen used to have
on our show from Louisiana always used to grow a
heat wave right right, and we grew heat heat way.
But you know, do you have to look at better
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selections to handle the heat or not necessarily?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Well that that's one thing that I started when we
were we were market growers for five years, and of
part of our our strategy was the growing heirloom tomatoes.
And I've learned that the heirloom tomatoes are very regional
in their adaptation, and we've trialed on that.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
We've trialed one.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Hundred and twenty varieties of airloom tomatoes looking for those
that were suitable for our hot and humid conditions. And
I have some that I grow in the spring, and
I have some that I grow in the fall, just
better the in those shoulder seasons. In talk about, you know,
the tomatoes that other people grow, you know, you like
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fourth of July and fourth of July works great here,
but it ripens they're ready to pick chick the fourth
of June. So I've always called them, you know, fourth
of June tomatoes. Yeah, it's just you know that month
month ahead of you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, it's not to say you're planning a month ahead
of us, so that you know, fourth of July works
out perfect for us. Yes, I think that's a fifty
four day or if I'm not mistaken, so.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a really real, real short one, ye,
you know, real quick hitting one, and you can grow
that and then after it's done, you go, you know,
grow something else. You know, it gives you that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Got it. Talking with Gary Bachman. Of course, his website
if you want to check it out, is gary Dash.
Oh yeah, it's it's Gary dash grows dot com. Be
sure to check that out, of course, Gary at gary
dash grows dot com as well. Uh anyway, and he
of course huge container gardener, and that's why we're talking
about for all the great folks out there that are
(29:50):
container gardeners. He always has some great tips for us.
Do you check the soil pH and test your soils
every year in those boxes?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
You want to know something, people are going to be
horrified about this, but I don't, you know, growing in
those professional growing mixes, they're really the only if you
want to say, amendments that I've seen that that really
you know, that you really have to do is you
have to add dolomite because those peak based mixes tended
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that pH tends to you know, tends to you know,
you know, weave its way down, you know, the lower phs.
So we just want to raise that pH up a
little bit. And every spring I add two cups of
dolomite to my earth boxes. I put a little mix
in there and kind of kind of mix it all up.
You know, we're gonna, of course, we're going to fertilize,
(30:43):
but then we're ready to go. I mean, it's it's
a really, really a simple system. And we've we've talked
about that in the past.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So what does the Southern gardener use for fertilizing his containers?
And of course you don't forget he has a wonderful book.
And I'm not kidding when I say this, It's called
Southern Gardening All Years Long by Gary Bachman, even if
you live up north, just to add three weeks onto
what he has there, and you're basically the same schedule.
But it's called Southern Gardening All Year Long, an award
winning gardening book. Highly recommend it. Be sure and check
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it out. But so what do you use as far
as fertilizer? And I know it may vary depending on
what you're growing in the boxes.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Right now, the earth boxes because there's the plastic cover
on them. I just use straight AD grade eight eight
eight or ten ten ten if I'm in you know
some of my other container gardening it's Osma Cote use
the controlled release for fertilizers. I mean, I think fertilization
is really isn't shouldn't be a complicated thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right, so you keep it pretty simple. Have you ever tried?
Do you do you consider going? And I know you
try to stay as natural as you can, because sometimes
we referred to as mister natural. Do you remember mister
natural from a national lampoon? I I do, uh so anyway,
uh as mister natural. But do you do you ever
(32:04):
look to do more organic gardening or natural gardening in
your earth boxes?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah? It's it's funny you mentioned that several years ago.
I was using oh and I forget the the commercial
products name, but but it was one of the the
the organics, and and I did set up my boxes
with the organic fertilizers, and I you know, and I
(32:32):
was just out in the garden. The dog came around
the corner in her hole front coming all covered, was
all covered, and she got into those earth boxes and
just chowed down.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, they like, they like that, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Yeah. Ever since then, no, I I just I just
haven't gone that way.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I love and talking with Gary Bachman. He is our
southern gardener who always to check in with Gary to
final what's going on in those Southern states zones eight, nines,
and tens, all those warm folks down there. Real quick
on about a minute ago, we'll take a break. I
got lots more questions. Do you ever do potatoes in
your containers?
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Not in earth boxes, but I've been I have been
known to grow potatoes in fifteen gallon nursery containers.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
There you go, that's that's the way to do it.
I like doing them in that. All right, we'll take
a quick break. More from Gary Bachman, our Southern gardener.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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and of course he is the author of an outstanding
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It's absolutely wonderful and it's called Southern Gardening all year
long talking about gardening and containers and of course Southern
(35:48):
gardening as well a couple of things else. Oh, I know,
you know, I was going to talk about a little
bit about crop rotation as we started to put our
vegetable gardens together for the spring. Do you worry about
that in containers? I don't, No, I really don't, you know.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
With my earth boxes, I have some earth boxes that
are sixteen years old now, wow, And I every year
I grow two crops of tomatoes spring and fall. I
have never rotated out. Some of my earth boxes have
been growing tomatoes for sixteen years, and I've never dumped
out an earth box. I've always added the mix to it.
(36:29):
You talked about that too. You don't dump your containers out.
You just add more mix to it and fluff it up.
And I have never had any kind of a root born,
you know problem in those boxes, you know, with no rotation,
so that that's always been my advice to to the
home gardeners when when I've been asked that question.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, and I agree with you one hundred percent. I mean,
in the ground in soil is one thing, but in
containers typically you don't see it. Even in raised beds,
you don't typically see it as much much as but
you know, again, and raised beds, if you use regular
top soil plus organic matter, probably good to rotate even
in those race beds. But in containers, no reason. And again,
always reuse that potting soil. I couldn't imagine if you
(37:13):
threw the potting soil away every year and had to
fill those things back up again. I wouldn't be a
container gardener.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
No, not not at all with one hundred and forty
two earth boxes, it takes you know, over two cubic
feet of mix per box. Let's see here, that's you know, yeah,
that could be like twenty dollars a box right now
to fill with the cost of mix, and it's like, yeah,
would I wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
How about any of the moisture retention products? Do you
use any of those at all? Or you just count
on the regular water in.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Yourself in the earth boxes. I just count on regular water.
I've tried. I did some work with with earth boxes.
I do trial and do work for them some of
those some of those products, and they tended to really
make the earth earth box really soupy and swampy.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
And it really really didn't.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Work out just in the way that subrrogated system.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, yeah, so folks understand, those earth boxes are self
watering boxes that has a reservoir in the bottom of them,
so really not necessary to have water retention polymers or
whatever added to that potting soil because it always has
a reservoir somewhat filled as you wrot what you know,
So basically when you're watering, you're just filling off the reservoir.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Absolutely and that and what the in the magic is
it keeps that root zone consistently moist. And that's what
the polymers do in a regular container, right, just keep
you keep that that root system moist.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Got it. Talking with Gary Bachman. He is our southern
gardener again. It's Gary Dashgroves dot com if you want
to check out his website. Uh, A couple of things
here having him do with the South. First of all,
looking at the lawns right now, what's everybody doing is
are the lawn starting to green up a little bit?
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Lawns are starting to green up. We are looking at
and I was you were talking about soil temperatures earlier.
Right now, our current soil temperature here in Ocean Springs
is sixty two degrees.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And yeah, we're averaging five day average, because I'm at
greed cast online, is fifty eight point four degrees over
the last week. And when you look back over the month,
we've been up as high as seventy one seventy two
degrees soil temperatures. Yeah, so we're at the point where
you know, our warm season grasses are starting to warm up,
(39:32):
some of our cool season weeds. If we still have
any air starting to go. Man, it's kind of getting
a little warm for us now, you know, and they're
getting ready to go away. But that's that's where we're
at with that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
So so what do you what are you doing with
the lawns? I know, you wait until they green up,
what about seventy five percent or so before you start
thinking about feeding.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Yeah, typically we don't think about feeding until at least
April here on the coast, may the end of April,
when we get up into you know, ze zone eight,
zone seven in North Mississippi. And it's important to get
that that pre emerged down on the grass right now
if we haven't done it already.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Right, So, all you're doing right now is a pre emergent. No,
no fertilizer with it.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
No, everybody wants to use the weed and feed, and
it's like no, no, no, no, no no, no, let's just
put let's just put the put the pre emerged down
and we'll start thinking about feeding next month. But everybody
wants to kind of combine those chores to make it easy.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, well, absolutely no doubt about it. Talking with Gary Bokmin,
here's our southern gardener what about the uh, crape myrtles?
Are we murdering those at this stage? Is the time
to start pruning those and clean them up a bit.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
People have been murdering or as I like to call it,
crape myrtlation because you actually don't kill the crape myrtle.
Truth that has been going That has been going on
since at least January first, and yeah, yeah, it's crazy now,
I'll tell you. The crate myrtles were starting to leave
out in January before, right before we had that snow,
(41:12):
and so that that that kind of set things back
a little bit. But that they're they're all leafing out now,
and I think I think it's go time for for
most everything that we have here.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
So you're you're get it better get it done if
you're gonna do some pruning, yep.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
And you know, really, the crate myrtles, you really don't
have to prune them. That that's but that's a that's
a hard piece of advice for for folks to want
to hear, because everybody wants to cut those grape myrtles back.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And the fortunate thing is they are a very forgiving plant.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Yes, yes they are. Now, I'll tell you little little
crape myrtle. I was out pruning the one crate myrtle
I have in the yard and it was one from
proven Winners. It was Infinity Watermelon. It's a dwarf and
it only gets about twenty four inches hide. But I
was out pruning it yesterday and it starting to leaf out.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Wow. So there you go. So that's what's happening. And
that's if you want early Craig myrtles, you got to
move to Mississippi to get that. Southern Mississippi the five
mile walk to the to the ocean front. Again talking
with Gary Bachman, our southern gardener. Hey, you had talked
about that set summer you were looking for, and I
had emailed you the other day. What was the name
of that variety?
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Oh, you want to know something you forgot. I was
looking at that again and I forget. I'll have to
have to look it up because I found talking about seth.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I thought I found the one you were talking about,
but I couldn't remember what it was.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Yeah, it wasn't exactly the one. I do remember the
one the variety that you recommended, But I will tell
you since we talked, the last Mississippi is now in
the citrus quarantine. Oh, that sickless screening has been found.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
We'll talk about that again.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Wow. Gary Blackman always a pleasure. Again. His website it's
a Gary dash grows dot com. Don't forget, is a
great book. Seriously Southern gardening all year long. Gary Bakman,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Hey, thanks man, we'll talk to you again, all.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Right, Take care. Gary Backman always a fun though. And
of course if you didn't notice, it doesn't have that
Southern accent Michigan boy. But that's okay. He moved down
to down South and has loved it and they love
him as well. Great sense of humor. If you see
his youtubes as a instructural gardening videos and things, he
does absolutely great. He has a trem sense of humor.
(43:33):
There's a lot of fun to watch. Gary Bachmann lead
singer for Bachman Gardening Overdrive. All right. Coming up next,
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Alright, toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding, moving our way into
the month of March. The little reality check this week
weather wise, cool down, a bit, little windy, a little
quick shower here and there, a little bit of snow
in the morning. Uh, but you know what it's Uh,
(01:00):
it's gonna get warmer. And I'm looking at long term
ron rothis are certified arbust and hobby meteorologists sent me
some long term maps and things like that, and looks
like after this weekend we're looking pretty darn good for
a while. So that's good. I'll take it. I just
hope it doesn't get too warm. And by the way,
(01:20):
no cup of Joe this morning. He has the weekend off,
so he is not here. So it's well deserved, always
well deserved. So it's Danny and me talking this morning.
And by the way, just before we just so I
don't forget about it, And I wrote myself a big
note here, little reminder, something special happens tomorrow morning at
(01:40):
two o'clock. What would that be, Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's not my birthday yet, so I'd say the time change.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Time change is correct. Birthday? You have a birthday coming up?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, number forty eight on Sunday to sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The sixteenth of March is your birthday. Yeah, I'll be
dog gone.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You didn't know, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I I just you know what, now that you said that,
I do kind of remember that. It's a I appreciate that. Man.
You're just You're just a little about a week away
or so here.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I'm taking that day off from here because I'm
going to use it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and you welcome cards, gift cards.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Gift cards, small bills on mark bills.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Small on marked bills. Change, Yeah, can be mailed right
here to the iHeart Studios, Montgomery, Ohio, and Dan will
be more happy to except your birthday cards. Yes, from
his loving fans out there. So, anyway, we changed the
clock back, so, as your favorite on air host would say,
Danny Boy, changes of time daylight saving time back to
(02:46):
the regular Eastern standard time. Uh, give me a full report.
How do you feel about that? In the words of
your favorite air on air host.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I can't say it the way he would say
it because I might get fined and I'll have to
dump it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But it used to bug me, but now it doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So it doesn't matter to you whether.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
We're I mean, there's always so much talk about, oh,
we're gonna change it, we're gonna keep it one thing,
and then it never happens.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's true. President Trump's been talking about that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and then he said the other day, well, we
might not do it politicians.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, well what can I say?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Do you have a preference of either the daylight Saving
time or the standard Eastern Standard Time?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I prefer the saving you do, Yeah, but you lose
an hour sleep. See you gain it back in later
in a year, though.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
True, So you like it. So you're good with a
switching and you would rather have the one that's coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Absolutely, all right, that's your thoughts. All I want to do,
and again refresh my memory. Your birthday, I know, is
coming up fairly quickly. That would be.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
March March sixteenth, sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, Yeah, I forgot already, sixteenth of March, just a
little bit over a week away, ladies and gentlemen. So yeah,
And he's right here in Kinwood, Ohio. iHeartMedia eighty forty
four Montgomery Road, Sweet six fifty, Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
By the way today, Yes, I was laughing there.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I saw you. By the way. Today is my
youngest daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And well, happy birthday to her.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and I think she's running in whatever. Is that
the Bockfest run something this morning or something downtown, so
I don't know, but she's some kind of a run
this morning. She does that a lot, So happy birthday
to her. All right. No Joe struck her today. So
you are stuck with me with a cup of Joe
talking about kicking off there with the weather, and we
have in me and Danny, and we've had kind of
(04:46):
a you know, one of those things about you know,
a little check, a little check there on, don't get
two aces here. And that's my whole point, as I
will say every Saturday as we go through the next
month and a half or so, is that I'll take
the gradual warm up. I'll still take the cooler weather,
the cooler soil temperatures. You put the two of those
together kind of keeps plants a little bit tighter. They
(05:07):
don't break too fast. We don't have to worry so
much about that last minute temperature drop later in the
season spring season. So I'll take the cooler, slower warm
up in the springtime versus you can just let it,
let it rip and then go on. Now we are
looking at temperatures like tomorrow, I think pushing almost sixty degrees,
but nighttime temperature is going back down and that's a
(05:29):
good thing. We'll stick with that. But do remember as
we start to look through the gardening season, the spring
season and getting things started, and you know, and what's
going to happen when things are going to break. We
watch the air temperatures, We watch for frost, we watch
for freezes and all of that, which is great. And
you know when it comes to like tender annuals in
that if we plant it too early we get a frost,
(05:51):
we can cover them up, we can spray them off,
we can protect them. But the thing we don't seem
to spa spend as much time with it which we
should be, and that's watching this soil temperatures. So again
I will put my reminder out to you this morning
that you know, at this point for where we start
watching soil temperatures, you don't have to watch them every day.
You can go look at it every three or four
days and see where we are because uh, and I say,
(06:14):
go look at them, because you've got a couple options.
You can do a soil thermometer, Danny, you know the
dirt between a soil thermometer and an oral thermometer.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, one of them you stick in your mouth, the
other one you stick in your soil.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well that's true, but there's one other difference. The soil
thermometer tastes like dirt.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I like that, okay, And so you know you can
use a soil thermometer and check that, you know, every
day if you like. But you can go online. It's
very easy. Pull up your cell phone, get the computer out, whatever,
go to a green cast g R, E, E, N C,
A S T dot com and they have soil moisture
meter or yeah, so moisture maps there. They have soil
(06:54):
temperature maps and all kinds of stuff. And you put
your talent in there and your zip code and guess what.
It comes back to you with current soil temperature averages
in your town, the last twenty four hours average in
your town, and the last five day average. And then
if you get really good, you click up to get
a chart and you can see what has been like
(07:15):
over the last year up the ups and downs to
give you a better feel as far as past averages,
if that's important to you to and I think it is,
to watch the soil temperatures because if you're planting vegetables,
very very important cool season crops. I always use the
breaking point of forty five degrees consistently in the soil
(07:35):
for planting. Somebody was asking me the other day about
planting potatoes. You know, when can I get potatoes planted
in the ground, And you know, Saint Patti's Day used
to be like the kickoff or planting potatoes in the ground,
because usually by about that point in our area and
our zone. And again remember make sure you know what
zone you're gardening in. We happen to be in six
(07:57):
A and B, but know you're gardening zone as well,
because that can help you a little bit as far
as look at it over all temperatures. But remember that
that zone is based on your average coldest winter temperatures.
But it's always good to know what zone you are
planting in, especially when it comes to trees and shrubs
(08:18):
and hardy plants. But anyway, I like to you look
at about forty five degrees consistently soil temperatures all right,
air temperatures. If the soil temperatures are consisting like that,
air temperatures are typically consistent as well or higher. Okay,
that's where I take a look at and I say, okay,
once we get to that point, I'm good to go.
(08:39):
To start with potatoes. They're an early crop. The broccoli,
the cabbages, the kales, you know, the early things, the
onions that can plant. Take that really cool soil temperatures,
and as it continues to warm, then we start looking
at the warmer season, things like tomatoes and peppers and
the petunias and the annuals and things like that. So
(09:01):
we watched this all temperatures for that and then so
I like I say, forty five degrees. It's typically my
breakpoint for starting to think about planting plants in the
in the air, vegetables in the ground. Now, regular trees
and shrubs and evergreens and roses and perennials and ornamental
grasses and all that can we're good to go. You
have been released and ready to start planting as long
(09:24):
as you can get out and work in the soil.
And you look around right now, you'll see a lot
of landscape crews getting a start already, doing a lot
of clean up, a lot of bed edging, things like that,
but also planting. So as long as the soil is workable,
not too wet, you know, especially if it's soggy, I
want to stay off of it. But not too wet,
you're ready your go. You're released. Let her rip. As
(09:45):
a matter of fact, planting early like that, like that now,
tree shrubs, flower shrubs, whatever may be, evergreens, they come
back to life in other words, you know, coming back
to life in the springtime, just like they normally would,
rather than being staying in a greenhouse or whatever through
the spring and being forced out of it earlier, et cetera,
et cetera. So you've got you know, you got the
free rain to go start planting. Not an issue there.
(10:08):
But again, watch the soil temperatures and it's green cast
online dot com and forty five degrees plus for those
cool seasoned crops that will tolerate the colder temperatures. Potatoes
hate cold, wet soils, and if you start too early
and it stays wet, cold and wet together does not work,
(10:29):
especially for potatoes. So if you want to get an
earlier crop and then maybe plant in another two or
three weeks when we get a little more consistently into
the weather. Think about planting them in containers. You can
get a nice crop and it looks kind of nice
too in a large container by just planting a potato
or two in the bottom. And I have a tip
(10:51):
sheet on how to do that. You can email me
and i'll get the tip sheet back to you. I
first started doing this, and then we'll take a break
and i'll tell you more about it. After the break,
we'll talk about our webs right as well. But I
first started doing this thirty years ago, growing them in containers,
and I always called it Tater's in a basket. Tater's
in a basket, And I'll tell you why after the break.
Got lots of guests today coming up at the bottom
(11:13):
of the hour. We got Gary Gary Bachman, the Southern Gardener,
will be with us. Top of the hour read a
hiking Felt will be with us. Bottom of that hour.
We got Steven Folks the Golden Finger from the Cystanti
Botanical Gardener Zoo. And of course we also have Gary
Selbyn with a little home improvement in between Danny Gleeson.
You and me talking yardening here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Hell so lots do it yourself gardener at one eight
hundred and eight two three talk. You're in the garden
with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
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Talking to Yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. Joe Strecker off this weekend, so no
cup of Joe, so you were stuck with me on
the first half. But talking about uh, all right, we'll
talk about a website here real quick, but I wanted
to finish up talking about potatoes. Planting potatoes and you know,
planting them in baskets and if this is something that's
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really cool. As a matter of fact, we have Reda
coming on late in the show this morning, and she
used to do this a lot with her grandkids because
it was great because you get I used to do
it in bushel baskets, the produce baskets, and then they
got so expensive because it would last a couple of years.
When you use them as a planting container, they will
start to rot easily and the next thing you know,
the bottom falls out, which you can just set them
(15:27):
on the ground and use them that way, but the
cost was so much, and then I switched over to
like eighteen twenty five twenty twenty five gallon containers, black
nursery pots containers. And then of course there's so many
ways you could do it with chicken wire, make them
out of you can build, do it on top of
the ground with compost. And then somebody developed the potato
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tubes where you plant them in the tubes that can
grow out the sides, and then add little pockets on
the side. You get doors you open up and reach
in and grab potato. So many great things out there
todayto do that, but anyway I should do it, and
it called it tatoes in a basket, and it's very
simple to do, you know. And again in a bushel basket,
one potato seed potato if it has multiple eyes, and
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if you can get four or five pieces out of
one potato typically does the job for you. If you
want to do too, an overplant it, that's great. It
all works. But you put about four inches of soil
in the bottom of that basket, nestle those potatoes down
in that soil, and then cover them up with about
three or four more inches of soil, and in sunny area,
keep them watered well as needed, and they'll start to grow.
(16:34):
And as they continue to grow and come up out
of that basket, you continue to refill around them. Now,
once you start to refill, what I typically would do
is take that potting soil that I'm using to refill
around them, and I would send a little granular fertilizer,
just a general garden food, you know, to mix in
with the soil slow release. So every time I added
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around them and had a little bit of fertilizer with
it as well, and you can filling it up as
they continue to grow. So yep, you're covering over the
stems that are coming up, You're covering over the leaves
that are coming up, always leaving about three or four
inches of the plant above as you're filling. And you
fill to the top of the basket. And once you
get to that point, you're done. And then you let
them grow and they'll pop out the sides and they'll
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grow are on the top and it's an okay looking
plant and they'll have a little flour in the summertime
and then when they start to turn yellow, you know,
and by the way, a little bit mid to late summer,
you can reach in there and start grabbing potatoes out
if you want, but leave them in there. The fully
starts to turn yellow as soon as it does. Cut
that off. You can turn them upside down, dump a mountain.
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You got a whole basket full of taters. So I
called it tato baskets. And like I say, there's so
many great ways to do it today, it's crazy, but
potatoes in containers is one of the easiest things to do.
It's crazy. And the potatoes are coming out of those
containers taste so darn good when they're fresh like that,
and again a great one for kids. Now, the thing
about the kids is it takes all sum to produce
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those potatoes, so they've got to wait, watching wait, But
it's fun when they do dump it out and finally
get those potatoes. But it's colltato's in a basket. And
that's a great way to get an early start on
growing potatoes. And I've got a tip sheet. If you're interested,
just email me and I will sending that back to
you as well. Our website is Ron Wilson online dot com.
Rita's recipe this week. As a matter of fact, don't
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forget Rita will be with us today talking about her
recipe and our herb of the week. We're doing every
other week with an herb of the week, But this
week her recipe is artichoke and spinach curry. Arti choke
and spinach curry. And we've got a picture on there
for you and the recipe for you as well. And
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I think the herb that we're going to talk about
will be curry. Very confusing. What is curry? Well, stay
tuned because at the top of the next hour, Rita
will explain to us what it is curry because you
see all kinds of different curry plans out there. But
is that are they all the same as what we
use for curry? Is that how we get Well, we're
gonna find out when we join with her in the
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next hour, So keep an eydea you're open for that one.
But again, her recipe of the week is artichoke and
spinach curry. Be sure to check that out. Our plant
pick of the week this week. Last week was the
winter annuals. Boy, are they starting to come up like crazy.
Snow's gone now, temperatures warming up slowly. Chickweed, purple dead
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netal hind bit, Harry bittercrests, bedstraw, pur s lane, annual bluegrass,
wild onions and garlic, wild parsis, and of course poisoned
demlock starting to show up as well as soon as
the weather starts to break. The ones that I mentioned previous,
the chickwee, purple dead netal, hind bit, harry bittercrests. Those
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you see quite a bit in the bear areas in
your lawn right now, you see also growing in your
annual areas. Do we remember that? Yep? You could spray
for them if you want to do that, but they
rake out very easily. They have little no root system.
So if you just rake them out their annuals and
pitch them, you're good to go. Those four particular weeds,
by the way, happen to be very nutritious, so if
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you can't beat them, you can't eat them, especially the chickweed.
And as as Rita has told me many many times,
chickweed also has appetite suppressing qualities, which, as you can
tell by looking at me, I do not eat chickweed.
There you have it, quick break, We come back around
talk with our southern gardener, Gary Bachman finds find on
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what's going down in those zones eights, nines, and tens.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Be
sure and mark your counters. March the sixteenth, that would
be the Dragle kids birthday. Danny Gleeson. What is a
address again? Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Sweet six.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
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Speaker 1 (23:10):
Two three six There you go. Yes, all right, and
that's coming up March the sixteenth again, all right, as
I promise, it's time for us to go down south
find out what is going on with those Southern gardeners.
With our Southern gardener himself. Of course we love. It's
called our Southern Garden Report. He is the head grower.
We're gonna go pass all that other stuff we used
to say about him. He's the head grower of Heritage
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Cottage Urban Nano Farm. And of course he has written
and you know all about it, the absolute one of
the absolute best books out there, called Southern Gardening All
year long, award winning you can't live without it, ladies
and gentlemen. His website is garydashgrows dot com, The One,
the Only Gary Bachman.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yes, sir, hey, good morning, ro What a great day
it is this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'll tell you man, that's what I like to hear.
All Right, So we got lots of we got lots
of talk about today, and you know, we have to
do more questions than time. But first of all, did
you did you recover from Marty Gras?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Actually yes, never really celebrated Marty Gras, you know, growing
up in that state, up you know, north of you guys,
you know, really didn't understand it. I enjoy everybody that
you know that does celebrate it. And I have to
tell you the King cake is one good tradition that
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that we do follow here in the Bachmann household.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, that's pretty tasty. There were three or four minutes
the nursery this week, and I enjoy those. I'm with
you on that one. Fortunately I didn't get that. I
don't you don't do you? Or do you not want
to get the baby that's baked into the cake?
Speaker 7 (24:55):
I really don't understand that. I does that mean that
you're going to have an other baby.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, I think. I don't know if that's a religious
I don't know. Rita will know when we talk. Just
keep listening. Rita will have She'll she'll fill us in.
She knows all those things. Talk about Gary Bakman, he
is our southern gardener. He is in the state of Mississippi.
What zone are you in, mister Backman.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
We are in zone nine A nine as our little
farm is about five miles directly north of the Gulf
of Mexico, So we are you know, basically I say
that we're.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Waterfront here, just a short walk, just a short walk,
that's right, or bike ride.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And of course the little garden and not little, the
ranch that you live on. Your plantation houses one hundred
and little less than one hundred and forty earth boxes,
that is, that is correct. And if I looked out
there today with the weather that we've had so far,
of course you're a little bit warmer than we are. Obviously,
what do I see growing in those boxes as of today?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
As of today, the only things I have out there,
because I'm transitioning into into the warms you are, well, yeah,
well we'll talk later about that, but but but I
do have bakchoi that I've let go to flower because
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it's a great pollinator plant for when you know, when
those bees are out on the warmer days. And I
do have I do have some kale that's still growing
and kind of getting to the end of that because
I want to start planting tomatoes. I mean, I have
a bunch of the micro tomatoes that are ready to
go in the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, now, when you are planting in those earth boxes, uh,
do you try to stick with more of the dwarf
varieties of vegetables that are out there? And the selection
today's phenomenal, It absolutely is.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I I have just really started looking at, if you
want to say, those micro those dwarf varieties. For years,
I've grown strictly the determinate tomatoes just because they're you know,
they're just they're just smaller structured plants. And that worked
really well with my with my growing style. But several
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years ago I started growing the micro tomatoes. You know,
they get at tops about eighteen inches tall. They make
full size cherry tomatoes. And I always say that they're
over producers or overachievers, because if you don't stake them
up in the earth boxes, the little plants will fall
over and there's so much, so many fruit on it,
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that they'll actually pull themselves out of the earth boxes.
It's kind it's kind of amazing to see.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That now when you're in zone nine like that. Do
you have to have a special selection of tomatoes or
do you use some basically some of the same ones
that we use. I know the gentlemen used to have
on our show from Louisiana always used to grow a
heat wave right right, and we grew heat heat way.
But you know, do you have to look at better
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selections to handle the heat or not necessarily?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Well that that's one thing that I started when we
were we were market growers for five years, and of
part of our our strategy was the growing heirloom tomatoes.
And I've learned that the heirloom tomatoes are very regional
in their adaptation, and we've trialed on that.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
We've trialed one.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Hundred and twenty varieties of airloom tomatoes looking for those
that were suitable for our hot and humid conditions. And
I have some that I grow in the spring, and
I have some that I grow in the fall, just
better the in those shoulder seasons. In talk about, you know,
the tomatoes that other people grow, you know, you like
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fourth of July and fourth of July works great here,
but it ripens they're ready to pick chick the fourth
of June. So I've always called them, you know, fourth
of June tomatoes. Yeah, it's just you know that month
month ahead of you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, it's not to say you're planning a month ahead
of us, so that you know, fourth of July works
out perfect for us. Yes, I think that's a fifty
four day or if I'm not mistaken, so.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a really real, real short one, ye,
you know, real quick hitting one, and you can grow
that and then after it's done, you go, you know,
grow something else. You know, it gives you that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Got it. Talking with Gary Bachman. Of course, his website
if you want to check it out, is gary Dash.
Oh yeah, it's it's Gary dash grows dot com. Be
sure to check that out, of course, Gary at gary
dash grows dot com as well. Uh anyway, and he
of course huge container gardener, and that's why we're talking
about for all the great folks out there that are
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container gardeners. He always has some great tips for us.
Do you check the soil pH and test your soils
every year in those boxes?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
You want to know something, people are going to be
horrified about this, but I don't, you know, growing in
those professional growing mixes, they're really the only if you
want to say, amendments that I've seen that that really
you know, that you really have to do is you
have to add dolomite because those peak based mixes tended
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that pH tends to you know, tends to you know,
you know, weave its way down, you know, the lower phs.
So we just want to raise that pH up a
little bit. And every spring I add two cups of
dolomite to my earth boxes. I put a little mix
in there and kind of kind of mix it all up.
You know, we're gonna, of course, we're going to fertilize,
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but then we're ready to go. I mean, it's it's
a really, really a simple system. And we've we've talked
about that in the past.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So what does the Southern gardener use for fertilizing his containers?
And of course you don't forget he has a wonderful book.
And I'm not kidding when I say this, It's called
Southern Gardening All Years Long by Gary Bachman, even if
you live up north, just to add three weeks onto
what he has there, and you're basically the same schedule.
But it's called Southern Gardening All Year Long, an award
winning gardening book. Highly recommend it. Be sure and check
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it out. But so what do you use as far
as fertilizer? And I know it may vary depending on
what you're growing in the boxes.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Right now, the earth boxes because there's the plastic cover
on them. I just use straight AD grade eight eight
eight or ten ten ten if I'm in you know
some of my other container gardening it's Osma Cote use
the controlled release for fertilizers. I mean, I think fertilization
is really isn't shouldn't be a complicated thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right, so you keep it pretty simple. Have you ever tried?
Do you do you consider going? And I know you
try to stay as natural as you can, because sometimes
we referred to as mister natural. Do you remember mister
natural from a national lampoon? I I do, uh so anyway,
uh as mister natural. But do you do you ever
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look to do more organic gardening or natural gardening in
your earth boxes?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah? It's it's funny you mentioned that several years ago.
I was using oh and I forget the the commercial
products name, but but it was one of the the
the organics, and and I did set up my boxes
with the organic fertilizers, and I you know, and I
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was just out in the garden. The dog came around
the corner in her hole front coming all covered, was
all covered, and she got into those earth boxes and
just chowed down.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, they like, they like that, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Yeah. Ever since then, no, I I just I just
haven't gone that way.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I love and talking with Gary Bachman. He is our
southern gardener who always to check in with Gary to
final what's going on in those Southern states zones eight, nines,
and tens, all those warm folks down there. Real quick
on about a minute ago, we'll take a break. I
got lots more questions. Do you ever do potatoes in
your containers?
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Not in earth boxes, but I've been I have been
known to grow potatoes in fifteen gallon nursery containers.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
There you go, that's that's the way to do it.
I like doing them in that. All right, we'll take
a quick break. More from Gary Bachman, our Southern gardener.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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It's absolutely wonderful and it's called Southern Gardening all year
long talking about gardening and containers and of course Southern
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gardening as well a couple of things else. Oh, I know,
you know, I was going to talk about a little
bit about crop rotation as we started to put our
vegetable gardens together for the spring. Do you worry about
that in containers? I don't, No, I really don't, you know.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
With my earth boxes, I have some earth boxes that
are sixteen years old now, wow, And I every year
I grow two crops of tomatoes spring and fall. I
have never rotated out. Some of my earth boxes have
been growing tomatoes for sixteen years, and I've never dumped
out an earth box. I've always added the mix to it.
(36:29):
You talked about that too. You don't dump your containers out.
You just add more mix to it and fluff it up.
And I have never had any kind of a root born,
you know problem in those boxes, you know, with no rotation,
so that that's always been my advice to to the
home gardeners when when I've been asked that question.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, and I agree with you one hundred percent. I mean,
in the ground in soil is one thing, but in
containers typically you don't see it. Even in raised beds,
you don't typically see it as much much as but
you know, again, and raised beds, if you use regular
top soil plus organic matter, probably good to rotate even
in those race beds. But in containers, no reason. And again,
always reuse that potting soil. I couldn't imagine if you
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threw the potting soil away every year and had to
fill those things back up again. I wouldn't be a
container gardener.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
No, not not at all with one hundred and forty
two earth boxes, it takes you know, over two cubic
feet of mix per box. Let's see here, that's you know, yeah,
that could be like twenty dollars a box right now
to fill with the cost of mix, and it's like, yeah,
would I wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
How about any of the moisture retention products? Do you
use any of those at all? Or you just count
on the regular water in.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Yourself in the earth boxes. I just count on regular water.
I've tried. I did some work with with earth boxes.
I do trial and do work for them some of
those some of those products, and they tended to really
make the earth earth box really soupy and swampy.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
And it really really didn't.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Work out just in the way that subrrogated system.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, yeah, so folks understand, those earth boxes are self
watering boxes that has a reservoir in the bottom of them,
so really not necessary to have water retention polymers or
whatever added to that potting soil because it always has
a reservoir somewhat filled as you wrot what you know,
So basically when you're watering, you're just filling off the reservoir.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Absolutely and that and what the in the magic is
it keeps that root zone consistently moist. And that's what
the polymers do in a regular container, right, just keep
you keep that that root system moist.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Got it. Talking with Gary Bachman. He is our southern
gardener again. It's Gary Dashgroves dot com if you want
to check out his website. Uh, A couple of things
here having him do with the South. First of all,
looking at the lawns right now, what's everybody doing is
are the lawn starting to green up a little bit?
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Lawns are starting to green up. We are looking at
and I was you were talking about soil temperatures earlier.
Right now, our current soil temperature here in Ocean Springs
is sixty two degrees.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And yeah, we're averaging five day average, because I'm at
greed cast online, is fifty eight point four degrees over
the last week. And when you look back over the month,
we've been up as high as seventy one seventy two
degrees soil temperatures. Yeah, so we're at the point where
you know, our warm season grasses are starting to warm up,
(39:32):
some of our cool season weeds. If we still have
any air starting to go. Man, it's kind of getting
a little warm for us now, you know, and they're
getting ready to go away. But that's that's where we're
at with that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
So so what do you what are you doing with
the lawns? I know, you wait until they green up,
what about seventy five percent or so before you start
thinking about feeding.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Yeah, typically we don't think about feeding until at least
April here on the coast, may the end of April,
when we get up into you know, ze zone eight,
zone seven in North Mississippi. And it's important to get
that that pre emerged down on the grass right now
if we haven't done it already.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Right, So, all you're doing right now is a pre emergent. No,
no fertilizer with it.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
No, everybody wants to use the weed and feed, and
it's like no, no, no, no, no no, no, let's just
put let's just put the put the pre emerged down
and we'll start thinking about feeding next month. But everybody
wants to kind of combine those chores to make it easy.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, well, absolutely no doubt about it. Talking with Gary Bokmin,
here's our southern gardener what about the uh, crape myrtles?
Are we murdering those at this stage? Is the time
to start pruning those and clean them up a bit.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
People have been murdering or as I like to call it,
crape myrtlation because you actually don't kill the crape myrtle.
Truth that has been going That has been going on
since at least January first, and yeah, yeah, it's crazy now,
I'll tell you. The crate myrtles were starting to leave
out in January before, right before we had that snow,
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and so that that that kind of set things back
a little bit. But that they're they're all leafing out now,
and I think I think it's go time for for
most everything that we have here.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
So you're you're get it better get it done if
you're gonna do some pruning, yep.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
And you know, really, the crate myrtles, you really don't
have to prune them. That that's but that's a that's
a hard piece of advice for for folks to want
to hear, because everybody wants to cut those grape myrtles back.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And the fortunate thing is they are a very forgiving plant.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Yes, yes they are. Now, I'll tell you little little
crape myrtle. I was out pruning the one crate myrtle
I have in the yard and it was one from
proven Winners. It was Infinity Watermelon. It's a dwarf and
it only gets about twenty four inches hide. But I
was out pruning it yesterday and it starting to leaf out.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Wow. So there you go. So that's what's happening. And
that's if you want early Craig myrtles, you got to
move to Mississippi to get that. Southern Mississippi the five
mile walk to the to the ocean front. Again talking
with Gary Bachman, our southern gardener. Hey, you had talked
about that set summer you were looking for, and I
had emailed you the other day. What was the name
of that variety?
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Oh, you want to know something you forgot. I was
looking at that again and I forget. I'll have to
have to look it up because I found talking about seth.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I thought I found the one you were talking about,
but I couldn't remember what it was.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Yeah, it wasn't exactly the one. I do remember the
one the variety that you recommended, But I will tell
you since we talked, the last Mississippi is now in
the citrus quarantine. Oh, that sickless screening has been found.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
We'll talk about that again.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Wow. Gary Blackman always a pleasure. Again. His website it's
a Gary dash grows dot com. Don't forget, is a
great book. Seriously Southern gardening all year long. Gary Bakman,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Hey, thanks man, we'll talk to you again, all.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Right, Take care. Gary Backman always a fun though. And
of course if you didn't notice, it doesn't have that
Southern accent Michigan boy. But that's okay. He moved down
to down South and has loved it and they love
him as well. Great sense of humor. If you see
his youtubes as a instructural gardening videos and things, he
does absolutely great. He has a trem sense of humor.
(43:33):
There's a lot of fun to watch. Gary Bachmann lead
singer for Bachman Gardening Overdrive. All right. Coming up next,
read a Hike and feld Here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
How is your garden growing?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
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