May 10, 2025 • 44 mins
Mr Home Improvment, Gary Sullivan and ALSO Buggy Joe!
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
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Wilson and breaking news. If you listen to the Cup of
(00:57):
Joe every Saturday, you know at the end of the
show talking about blame it on doctor Z and TikTok
and the times.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Of doctor who.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Doctor Z and was a producer of our show many
years ago, and a lot of folks still remember doctor Z.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah before I took over again.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, Danny moved in and took over. And uh, he's
been out in Washington, d C. With his sweetheart and
we've been teasing about getting married. And he posted on
Facebook yesterday he's engaged. Got the hand holding up with
the big rock on the finger. So the rock is
no longer in the pocket, it is on her finger.
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So congratulations doctor Z and sweetheart and now Dan we'll
wait for the wedding invitations, correct, and we'll all we're
on our bus and go up there and just harass
that man for we'll yeah, and Gary as well. Do
we have to take Gary with us?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, and we'll just harass that young man for the
three day weekend. Maybe maybe we can all sing in
his wedding too. Not all right, it's Mother's Day weekend.
If you're out to your local independent garden centers this weekend,
which I hope that you are, have your plant lists ready,
have it with you, do your homework, know what you're
looking for. Obviously, look for something for mom, right because
moms love gifts from the garden for the garden as well.
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But they're gonna be really busy, think about it. In
our area, we haven't had a great weekend like this
one at all this spring where we got back to
back days of really nice weather and looking at next
week the same way, finally break and finally giving us
a chance to get out and start the plant So
they're gonna be crazy, I guarantee. And they are packed
to the gills with more plants than you could ever imagine,
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especially for Mother's Day weekend. But they're gonna be busy,
So be patient as you're shopping the local independent garden centers,
you know, just be patient with them. And Kevin O'Dell
brought up a good point. A lot of the landscape
firms as well. With the weather being the way they are,
they have booked and sold jobs and want to get
them in, but in many cases has just been too
wet to get out and plant. So be patient as
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the weather breaks. Trust me, they want to get everything
they planted that they can, and those garden centers want
to take care of you as well. But you just
got to be patient. This weekend, next week, even next
weekend if it's good. Are extremely busy through this. This
is it. This is the busiest time of the year,
and they're ready for you. They get geared up me
and they're ready. It's it's trust me. The adrenaline flows
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when you're in this business on these busy days. Controlled
chaos is what it turns into. But get out in
the visit your loqui. Independent garden centers have you notes,
be ready to be patient and get it taken care
of it. And remember moms do like gifts from the
garden planters, hanging baskets, soil knife, if your Mom is
still working out in the garden, still doing a lot
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of container gardening. You know whatever, A soil knife. I
know it sounds weird, but a soil knife's a great
gift for mom. Anybody I know that's never had a
soil knife and I talk about a soil knife and
they order one sometimes also called hory Corey's, but a
soil knife, and they like, I don't know where I
have been without this wonderful soil knife. It looks like
(04:01):
a gardener's survival knife, is what it looks like. And
you use it for just about everything. And Mom can
use it for weeding and chopping up the soil, for transplanting,
digging things out. It's amazing. Threaten you with it, you know,
if you're not doing the right things. But it's amazing
what you can do with a soil knife. And that
is an outstanding gift. If Mom likes hummingbirds, get her
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a hummingbird feeder, but make her a planter. If she
doesn't have any a place to plant, make her a
planter underneath it. Put the hummingbird feeder on a stand
in the big planter, and underneath it plant it with
pollinator plants, especially those that hummingbirds like. Ooh, Now you'd
bring the butterflies and everything to that planter, including the
hummingbirds and the hummingbird feeder. So you got a combination
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of two. That's the best way to do it. Matter
of fact, our neighbor's hummingbird feeders are pretty close to
our right there, kind of side by side where our
patios are, and I have my like tithonia and other
plants out there that the hummers like, and they'll come
and visit our plants and go up, get a little
dre to come back and visit our plants, go get
little drinks. They go back and forth. But I think
they spend more time in our garden because of the plants.
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I know they do so, but the combination of the
two really bring them in. So that's a great combo
to have for mom, and a great gift for Mother's
Day as well. Planting her herbs a herb container, planting tomatoes, peppers,
whatever it may be. And don't forget all about all
the great dwarf varieties of vegetables that are available out
there that you can plant for Mom. Perfect for having
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righted her fingertips out of that porch or patio. But again,
get out to your local independent garden centers and check
it out because they have got so many great plants
for you to take a look at for mom and
for you as well, that you are going to just
be blown away. By the way. Speaking of that, roses
always fall into that category, not so much to cut roses.
And cut flowers are fine, and it's bring them inside
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for mom and all that. That's fine. I like cut flowers.
I'll get my mom cut flowers. But I also add
to living things outside that will continue to gift the
gifts through the rest of the summer season. And you know,
potting up roses like that petit knockout rose in a container,
having it outside the back door patty or whatever it
may be. And partially it'll take half a day sun
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or full day of sun. That thing is great. It's
a petite only gets about eighteen twenty four inches high
and wide, beautiful red flowers and it loves growing in
a container. So there you go. And then if you
get out there and you start looking at the roses,
you'll probably see tree roses as well as that petit
rose in a tree form, all right, So they take
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they take a rose stem that's three to four feet high.
That rose on the top of that, all right, and
it's grafted onto another roofstock. You got two graphs going
on there and then this three or four foot trunk
and then the roses on the top grating containers. You
can put it in the ground as well. But here's
the kicker, and I don't think a lot of folks
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know this. If you're in zone six or colder, tree
roses typically do not over winter in the ground. Just
leave them outside and let them over winter. If it's
a cold winter at all, they typically don't come through
all right. And a lot of folks sending pictures of saying, hey,
what how to my tree rose? That's saying looked great
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last year and it never did anything this spring. They
don't like that. And again, zone six and colder, Zone
seven and down you're usually in pretty good shape, but
not in six and colder. So if you want to
get that tree rose for yourself or for your mom
or grandma or whatever, may be the best way to
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grow a tree rose, The best way is in a
large container because and I say that because at the
end of the year, right before Christmas, when the weather
starts to finally cool down. You pull that container, you
give it one last good watering. The plant's starting to
go dormant. You wheel it inside an unheated garage or
unheated shed. Water it once a month and let it
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over winter inside an unheated garage or shed. Get the
two wheeler, wheel it back outside in the springtime. Let
it come back to life in the spring, and you're
good to go. That is the best way to grow
a tree rose. Okay, end zone six and colder. Now
if you don't want to do that, and you can
actually do a hole in the ground. Sea can stick
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the pot and all down in the ground if you
want it to look like it's growing in the bed.
If you want to leave it outside, you say, I
don't want to go through all that, Well, there are
a couple things you can do to over winter that
you can actually take chicken wire, poultry fencing, wrap it.
Make a cage around that thing as tall as the rose.
Fill that up with straw and leaves as an insulator.
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Even put bubble wrap around the outside of that cage
and protect it that way over the winter time. And
most of the time when you do that added protection,
they will come through the winter. The other way, which
is the old fashioned way, is that you go on
half of the rose. You go out about twelve inches
with a sharp square spade, you cut straight down, cut
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the roots, and you bend the rose over and lay
it down on the ground. Then you do the same
process that we just talked about with the cage, but
as it's laying on the ground, so you munched the
whole thing over on the ground. A couple things there is.
One is voles can get to it and chew on it,
and they will miceel chew on it and they will
so you kind of try to protect it, maybe put
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some repellents in there as well. But over winter it
laying on the ground, and then and you're going to
mulch it from the roots all the way to the top,
and then in the springtime bring it back up, replant it,
push it back down to the ground, and let it go.
That's a lot of work. That's the way it used
to be done. But you know, I learned early on,
and I've always said I love growing these things and containers.
But doctor Patchman was local rosaria in here that knew
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just the man was a rose. He loved it, but
his his all coming all the time was the only
way to grow tree roses were in containers, move them inside,
move them back outside, and two wheeler in the garage.
Done deal. Those are great gifts for mom for Mother's
Day or anytime, or for you yourself, but just remember
they need added protection Zone six and colder to overwinter,
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otherwise you're gonna wind up losing them over the winter.
And some folks say, well that's okay, I'll just replace
it by another one and grow it as an annual.
You can do it that way as well. Nevertheless, get
out to your local independent garden centers today, tomorrow, it's
Mother's Day weekend, get mom taken care of, get yourself
taken care of. Next week. Of course he'll stay stocked
next weekend as well. Be busy. They're going to keep
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as stocked as they can for the next two three
four weeks right up to them more a weekend. So
get out, visit your local independent garden centers and let's
get growing. The time spring has sprung finally for us
and hopefully for you as well. Quick break, we come back.
Guess who's up. Gary Sullivan with a little home improvement
at the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Buggs. It's
all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (13:56):
Welcome back here in the Guiden with Ron Wilson. Happy
Mother's Day weekend. The Happy Mother's Day to all the
moms out there, and what you said we'd learned to.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Bring up on to my mom too, Happy Mother's Day
to her.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Happy Mother's Day to missus sol Or, missus Missus Sullivan,
Missus Gleeson as well. Yes, I met your mom once,
very very nice lady, not at all as mean as
the way you talk about her.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Hey, hey, hey, now you're not supposed to say.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That all air. I'm sorry on the air. I'm sorry,
all right, Not during the break. It's time for I
don't know. Home improvement from the man, the myth, the legend.
He is the most listened to home improvement show host
in the entire Solar system. His website Garysullivan online dot com.
Ladies and gentlemen, he is the one and the only
(14:41):
Gary Suivan and mister Wilson, HELLI I am h outstanding.
Happy Mother's Day Weekend. Yes, big plans for Missus Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
No, I think we're gonna play a little golf in
the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
If Tomorro's in two tech doing a show.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Why would it be taxing?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
These shows are not taxing to you, Well they aren't.
What folks cannot see is you crank back in that
chair with your feet up on the desk, desk and
headphones on and answering questions.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Answer.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We're talking about home improvement.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
That's what we did.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Relaxed, set back and the venus flight the venus flight
trap of home improvement?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's you. So did your mom your mom teach you
anything about home improvement?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Actually, well, I don't know if she really Yeah, yeah,
I mean she was the painter of the house, so
she did pretty much all the painting. Though my dad
he could tackle some bigger projects, you know, like I
when I was in early teenage years. He was one
of the probably one of the first house flippers. We
(15:55):
bought the house across the street, and when he came
home from work and on the weekends, that's what he
did and I followed right along. Ron you know, it
was a yard that was I still remember the yard.
It's a nice yard, and it was all overgrown. It
was totally overgrown. And that was, uh, you know, that
was me and a couple of my buddy's first jobs
(16:16):
in that particular project. Then we got in and put
in flooring, and you know, he did the whole works
and he sold the house.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What is your dad? You say about measuring?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well, his thing is, uh, measure three times and then
cut it three times. I never could figure that out either.
We had, we had we had some kerfluffles about that. Yeah, yes,
I would say, okay, Dad, it's eighty six and a half.
He goes, okay, Gary, go ahead and cut that eighty seven.
(16:49):
Why would I do that? It's eighty six and a half. Yeah,
but you wanna you wanna label little room in case
you screwed up. And he said, well, I didn't screw up.
It's eighty six and a half. That's why we're measuring.
You just cut it at eddy seven. Okay, cut it
aday seven? Go there half inch too long?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah, Well go ahead and cut it eighty six and
three quarter. So were we sneaking up on it? And
so it was, I guess, measure once, cut three.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Times Yeah, that was it. That was it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That was a game plan.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And you definitely do not do that today. No.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
No, In fact, I explained to him that's what molding
and calking is for. He just looked at it, looked
at me, and said, just cut it a day.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Oh golly, yeah, so it goes. But yeah, that was
that was kind of a fun project. But my mom,
she was the she was the painter. She was the
painter of the house.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So she chose the colors and then had you prepped?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
No, I did, I did paint. In fact, a funny
story is my I don't know why we're talking about this,
but it's kind of cool story for dad's listening and mom's.
When I was a kid, I remember my mom saying
her mother died in her forties and my mom raised
like all her siblings, which was like six or seven.
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So she was the lady of the house, had to
drop out of high school, and she painted. She fixed
everything in her house. Her father was a carpenter and
when she got married to my dad, my dad's father
was in a hardware business. How about that. Wow, And
he did everything, didn't really show his kids how to
do things, so when my mom went to paint, my
dad said, I don't know how to paint, and she just, well,
(18:35):
come on, big boy, let me show you how to paint.
And she did, and he became proficient at other things
around the house. But my mom, when dad was at work,
and if she wanted to paint, you know who got
So I guess she did show me, right, Yeah, she
showed me how to paint the bedroom. When I was
(18:57):
twelve or thirteen, I remember painting my own bedroom the
color I wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So, yeah, what was that color?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Gary Sullivan, I don't know exactly what that color was,
but I will tell you in my later teenage years,
maybe sixteen seventeen, it was the brightest green you could
ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So you liked the greens, Well, apparently I did. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I don't ever want to see that picture, but I
can still visualize it.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I love it. And you said, you don't know why
we're talking about this, because you're telling stories about your
mom because it's Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
There you go, there you go. So yeah, But as
I got older and got into home improvement, I would
catch my mom go and I've used this on the show.
She would have some old metal chairs to sit out
back on a patio on, and all of a sudden
she'd be painting it, and I'd look at the paint
and I go, Mom, why are you using indoor latex
paint on those chairs? That's all we had. Yeah, but
(19:53):
it's not gonna work. Yeah, yeah, will it's not gonna work.
And it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But when it didn't work, you didn't remind her of that,
did you.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, of course not no.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
And she didn't say, Hey, you were.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right, same as missus Sullivan that you're married to.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I'm not going there.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You're not going to remind her there.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
It's Mother's Day weekend. Don't don't set the trap. I
was myself there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You're gonna talk about home improvement today, Yes, sir, anything
in particular, maybe painting.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
We kind of got off to a might not be
a bad way to start.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I think that's what we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Gary Sullivan coming up next on most of these stages.
If he's not called your station and find out why not,
and also check out his website, Garysullivan online dot com.
Now coming up next on our show, Buggy Joe Boggs
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Green Tom or not.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
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Garden with Ron Wilson as well. And as I promised,
it is time for Yes the Buggy Joe Boggs Report.
That would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor commercial for this
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Or Coffee Emporium where I think I got a moth
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Speaker 3 (23:50):
Good morning, sir Snidley Snidley Whiplash. That's that's me. That's
that's a.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Happy Mother's Day to my brother from another mother.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I'll tell you it has to be. It has to be.
I think we figured that out somewhere in the somewhere
back in time. There must have been a shared relative.
There had to be.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In West Virginia somewhere. We were crisscrossed there with jeans.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Absolutely. Absolutely, Like my grandmother always said, you can't run
away from your genes. I don't know if that had
to do with genetic belt I think maybe, and suspenders.
I was always that way. Boy. I'll tell you stuff
is happening, isn't it. Any Things are really starting to
(24:33):
kick out. Well, you know, with all the rain and
of course this is this is a rarity. You think
about it, Ron, You think of all the different places
that your show goes. I mean, I think it's not
just worldwide. I have a feeling, you know, there might
be well, let's see, they don't call them UFOs anymore.
(24:55):
But I have a feeling somewhere out there in the galaxy.
You know, there's some little, you know, gardening creatures listening in.
I think you're it's a galactic show. But you know,
I don't know where that got. I don't know where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What bug is he talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But you know, at some point the Eastern United States
becomes very divided in terms of what is going on,
right I mean, at some point there's a dry area,
there's a lot of heat, there's some frosts, you know,
and I mean we're a little late for that. Well
not totally, but at some point things really starting to divide.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Thirty this morning at the Arbords house.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, it has we have had some really nice
cool nights there.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We had there was a slight chance of frost in
northeastern Ohio this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, and you know we've had frost well up in
the May, and yeah, it's but the point being is
that right now we're enjoying such a wide nice gardening time,
except you can't plant anything because too wet. The ground
is so wet.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It you get a couple of good sunny days, a
little bit of wind blowing, it'll be dry'll be able
to plan well well.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I'll tell you what dry things out the quickest.
And you know, you and I've talked about this, and
sometimes it's easy to forget just how rapidly a big
maple tree, a big oak tree pulls water out of soil. Sure,
and that's well in turf grass, you know, we which
is looking fantastic. It really is. So this is the
(26:42):
time when you sit on the porch. Actually, this is
a time when you take pictures, right, take the picture
of your house and you know that way you have
it in to look at in August, late July, early
August to say this is like, yeah, I got started
off and went kind of in a pretty negative direction.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We're trying to hang with you, but it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Is this is, this is this has been a very
interesting spring. Things are happening. Finally, the periodical cicadas are
making their presence known. Not coming out in huge numbers
quite yet, but they are. They are emerging, and you
go check it out.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Now, you go look, yo, you go look now, we'll wait.
You go check it out.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's getting cold to night. I heard on
the on the radio that we shouldn't be coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm not coming out yet. You go check it out.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, that is an issue because they do emerge mainly
at night, and which is always an interesting thing to see.
You know, if you're in an area where periodical cicadas
are are scheduled to merge this year, and that's that's
a fairly defined area. It's not you know, northern Ohio.
It's not even central Ohio. It's southern Ohio and a
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point south because we go this route goes goes very
far south. And if you're in an area where they're
scheduled to emerge, you know, once you start seeing the evidence,
then wait until you know ten or eleven o'clock. Actually
they get rolling, you know, just after dusk, and just
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go out with a flashlight and watch this occur. It's
a pretty interesting thing which only happens in a given
location at about every seventeen to thirteen years, except in
southern Ohio. One am I driving as well? We have
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we have you know, we can experience three different brood
emergencies in southern Ohio. And when you think about it,
there aren't too many places in the US where you
have this much overlap. In fact, you know, Ohio is
we used to be the crossroads of the nation, right,
I think we're the periodical cicada emergence site of the nation.
(29:07):
It's it's an interesting it's an interesting situation. But but
you know, this is a fairly big brood and and
so you know, get out and enjoy it. One thing
I do want to emphasize, though, and this could.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Be hugely Hell, you know what, several people just said,
What did Joe just say, get out and enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're breaking up, ron, I don't know that I said that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know, people run scream because those things are out there.
Just get out and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I know, I know, I realized what my entomology thing
kind of it sort of came out, didn't it. I mean,
it's yeah, I try not to do that. I'm working
on that very hard.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I will tell you right up front, Joe Boggs he
may enjoy them, but there's one way that he does
not enjoy them. As it pertains to all the insects
that are out there. He will not eat a cicada.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I just can't do it. I just you know, I know,
I know, just can't do it. I won't do it,
you know. Yes, that's yeah. A lot of my entomology
friends and colleagues, Yes, it's a big deal, and they
claim that it tastes like, you know, something good, and
it might it very well might.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Maybe a potato flavor.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, that's the way.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It all tastes more like the bourbon that I had
it in. I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Remember that's always a funny. You know, it tastes like chickens, right,
that's why I always here. I mean, that's a standard joke,
you know, which is how we know how dinosaurs tasted,
by the way, But that's a little different story.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right, that's a way different story, by the way, Joe,
before we take a break. Two things. One is just
so hearing it from Buggy Joe Boggs. Besides using netting,
and of course cheese cloth is out there, but there's
so much cicada netting out there today, which hell, it
really helps your plants breed, and it's a lot better
for your plants. There's really nothing to do besides sit
back and enjoy them.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, it is true. If you have a if you,
if you and this is you and I talked about this,
whether you'd want to delay planting or or go ahead
and plant, you know, and then protect I really or
don't plant. I mean I don't like that. I never
I never recommend just don't plant a tree. Plant a tree.
When you can plant a tree delayed planting, well, yeah,
(31:42):
that's okay too if it's a containerized because you know,
you basically you can put those in the ground just
about any time, right, But you know it's because all
the root system is there. But if you've planted a
tree in the last year or so, it's a young tree,
and you can do it just first of all, monitor things.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You may not have to do anything exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You know, I took a drive into our predicted cicada
territory and I'm already seeing some pretty remarkable well let's
just say, maybe Halloween decoration, garden art. And I get it.
I mean, I understand, okay, let's get prepared and all that.
But based on the previous emergencies, and this is just
(32:31):
you have hotspots and then you had within that area
almost nothing. Our neighborhood, for example, I did not think
it would get hit during the last emergence in twenty
twenty one. Not this brood. It was another brood, and
I didn't think we'd really have a problem, but we
did coming from the surrounding woods. But Ron, you know,
(32:54):
you and I talked about this at the time. You
could go down the road literally a mile and there
was nothing, and there were big trees. I mean, you know,
there should have been cicadas. I don't know what happened,
but there just weren't any so this this hit or miss,
and even within even within neighborhoods, so older neighborhoods, because
remember we did say this is true. The tree had
(33:19):
had to have been, you know, around seventeen years ago
as a pretty big tree to support cicadas that are
coming out underneath it right now. So we do. We
have some older neighborhoods, and within those neighborhoods, you could
drive and here'd be a location where they were just thick,
and you could literally walk to another location and there
(33:42):
just wasn't It's just that's just that's just how this is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So we got to take a break room. Yeah, and
I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave this real quick.
This was always my theory and I think you agree
with me when we talk about this, is that if
you wait it out and if by and watch the
plants that you are concerned about, if by chances cicadas
come out and they're all over it, uh and they
start jointing, you know, on it, take a garden host
and flush them all off and then cover it. Yeah,
(34:07):
so wait just to be sure, and then you bowl
them all off and then you cover it and you're
good to go, so yeah, and waited out. All right,
we'll take a quick way if we come back and
find out a few things that maybe Buggy Joe baumbs
bug Joe Bogg's mom has taught him when he was
growing up. I'm sure he's got a few things like
my mom taught me religion. Like she always said, you know,
(34:28):
you better pray that that comes out of the carpet,
or you better pray that that grows back or run.
You better pray that your dad doesn't find out.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Did she use all three of your names?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ron? Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah? And I tell you what, I did a lot
of praying when I was a kid growing up, no
doubt about it. All right, quick break, we come back
more with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (36:44):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggsy Port Joe
Boggs OSU Extension b y g L dot O SU
dot E d U Joe, I told you my mom
taught me how to pray when I was early on.
There's a lot of things I better pray about for
some reason, and for some reason, I got a funny
feeling that your mom probably try to teach you logic,
(37:04):
because I can hear your mom saying, Joseph Boggs, if
you fall out of that tree and break your neck,
you're not going to the store with me.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's right. That's how did you know? That's exactly right.
It's all those things. We heard them, all, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, I'm just I'm pausing because I'm just thinking that through,
because yes I did. And the religion thing, I I really,
you better pray your dad doesn't find out.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I pray your dad didn't find out about that. Oh no, hey, hey,
before we go ahead, Now look, I was getting serious,
and now you're getting serious.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I am getting curious because I do want I do wanna.
I want to make sure people hear this and use this.
So if you're in the Cicada area and you have
a decent smartphone, which you know, I like, I say,
I have a smartphone, but only one of us. But
if you have, there is an app called Cicicada Safari
(38:10):
and the cicada Safari. Just I mean, that's that's just
you know two where Cicada Safari. You go to any
of the downloading load sites for apps on your phone,
whether you have a you know, an iPhone or or
or other type of phone, you can you can you
can get this app. And what it does, it's easy
(38:31):
to set up.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It allows you then to go out take a picture
of the cicada and then it will upload onto the
app and it'll mark on a map. You know where
that cicada was found. Doctor Gene Kritsky, you know Gene
from Mount Saint Joe here in Cincinnati. He and their
IT department developed this years ago and they've kept refining it.
(38:56):
And of course, as you and I have said this,
you know, Gene Kritsky literally wrote the book on periodical cicadas,
because he did write a book on this particular brood
as well as a few others. So Gene has worked
very diligently. And why this is so important is we
only get a chance to map out these broods in
(39:17):
this case every seventeen years, and so we're relying on
observations all the way back in two thousand and eight
and you think about that for us to predict where
they might be today, and consequently, you know, there's a
lot of guestswork there, right and back to whether you
need to respond or not. If we take advantage of
(39:39):
each brood learning where they are and where they're not,
then we can help folks to understand well, maybe you
just don't need to worry about them. And a good
example is where we live run. We will have some
emerging right at the edge of where Hamilton County and
Butler County come together. For those listeners outside this region,
(40:02):
we're talking about northern Cincinnati where two canties come together,
and there's a location there that in two thousand and
eight there was a very heavy emergence in that location,
but it's kind of far away from where the main
body of this broote is. So Cicada Safari, I just
urge that you all you know that listeners in the
(40:24):
area that are predicted where they're going to be cicadas
or if you're driving around through it, I download it.
You do have to for the app. You do have
to have it set up so that app can give
Gene and the you know, the software your location. But
you can have that happen just for that app, and
(40:47):
you know how that works wrong. You can just have
that location a finder come on just for the app,
and that's again it's easy as pie, and just do
us all favor too. And this is going to sound
kind of funny. I mean, you can just take a
picture the cicada's coming up on the stem of the
tree and that's fine if you don't need to pick
them up or do anything. Just take a picture and
(41:08):
then you'll you know, there's instructions very easy to post
that picture if you kind of you know, if you
want to. The nice thing might be, though, is if
you can pick this cicada up, And how you do
that is just pick it up by the wings because
the two wings are kind of held tent like over
the body. So if you kind of pinch those two wings,
(41:29):
they don't bite you, they don't do anything like that.
And then turn it over terry taking a picture of
the underside of the cicada. The reason that that's helpful
if you can do it, if a person isn't too
squeamish to do that, that's how we separate the three
species of cicadas that are emerging. So right now there
(41:50):
are going to be three species, and some of these
broods have more like two species, and maybe the third doesn't.
We don't know that. But that's how we can separate
easily the three species. So again a little bit of
a little bit of helping us out with learning where
they are and aren't. I just had to get that
(42:10):
in wrong, because this is this is golden. I may
even say it again over the next week or so.
But I interrupted you. You had very important things to say.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Nothing gott no listen to you.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You were on a roll now.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, I was just going to I was just going
to say that, you know, things are starting to pick
up for you now as far as things going on.
And I laughed this week with all the different things
I've gotten in emails wanting to know what's going on,
and I printed all this stuff out because it's just amazing.
Rose rosette going crazy right now. Oh yeah, I'm getting
(42:50):
maple trees that the branches that aren't leafing out loaded
with scale. I'm getting maple leaves that are loaded with galls.
I'm getting roses that are getting hamed by rose slugs.
I'm getting uh Alberta with cool season mites. And I
got my first thing of sawfly larvae this week on
(43:10):
Mugo plum On my gosh.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, so it's a wonderful time.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I just said, oh my gosh, Joe's just spinning around.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Just loving all this stuff. We finally are having stuff happening.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
There you go, Buggy Joe bal It's always a pleasure.
We'll talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
You have a great week, Ron, take care.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Thank you, thanks to all our colers, thanks our sponsors,
Thanks of course to Danny Glee star producer, because without
Danny and no other stuff would happened. Now, do yourself
a favor. I just got one thing in mind. Get
out there and make it. If your mom's still around,
great and get out there and make it the best
weekend of her life. See it.
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(00:57):
Joe every Saturday, you know at the end of the
show talking about blame it on doctor Z and TikTok
and the times.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Of doctor who.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Doctor Z and was a producer of our show many
years ago, and a lot of folks still remember doctor Z.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah before I took over again.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, Danny moved in and took over. And uh, he's
been out in Washington, d C. With his sweetheart and
we've been teasing about getting married. And he posted on
Facebook yesterday he's engaged. Got the hand holding up with
the big rock on the finger. So the rock is
no longer in the pocket, it is on her finger.
(01:36):
So congratulations doctor Z and sweetheart and now Dan we'll
wait for the wedding invitations, correct, and we'll all we're
on our bus and go up there and just harass
that man for we'll yeah, and Gary as well. Do
we have to take Gary with us?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, and we'll just harass that young man for the
three day weekend. Maybe maybe we can all sing in
his wedding too. Not all right, it's Mother's Day weekend.
If you're out to your local independent garden centers this weekend,
which I hope that you are, have your plant lists ready,
have it with you, do your homework, know what you're
looking for. Obviously, look for something for mom, right because
moms love gifts from the garden for the garden as well.
(02:15):
But they're gonna be really busy, think about it. In
our area, we haven't had a great weekend like this
one at all this spring where we got back to
back days of really nice weather and looking at next
week the same way, finally break and finally giving us
a chance to get out and start the plant So
they're gonna be crazy, I guarantee. And they are packed
to the gills with more plants than you could ever imagine,
(02:35):
especially for Mother's Day weekend. But they're gonna be busy,
So be patient as you're shopping the local independent garden centers,
you know, just be patient with them. And Kevin O'Dell
brought up a good point. A lot of the landscape
firms as well. With the weather being the way they are,
they have booked and sold jobs and want to get
them in, but in many cases has just been too
wet to get out and plant. So be patient as
(02:57):
the weather breaks. Trust me, they want to get everything
they planted that they can, and those garden centers want
to take care of you as well. But you just
got to be patient. This weekend, next week, even next
weekend if it's good. Are extremely busy through this. This
is it. This is the busiest time of the year,
and they're ready for you. They get geared up me
and they're ready. It's it's trust me. The adrenaline flows
(03:18):
when you're in this business on these busy days. Controlled
chaos is what it turns into. But get out in
the visit your loqui. Independent garden centers have you notes,
be ready to be patient and get it taken care
of it. And remember moms do like gifts from the
garden planters, hanging baskets, soil knife, if your Mom is
still working out in the garden, still doing a lot
(03:39):
of container gardening. You know whatever, A soil knife. I
know it sounds weird, but a soil knife's a great
gift for mom. Anybody I know that's never had a
soil knife and I talk about a soil knife and
they order one sometimes also called hory Corey's, but a
soil knife, and they like, I don't know where I
have been without this wonderful soil knife. It looks like
(04:01):
a gardener's survival knife, is what it looks like. And
you use it for just about everything. And Mom can
use it for weeding and chopping up the soil, for transplanting,
digging things out. It's amazing. Threaten you with it, you know,
if you're not doing the right things. But it's amazing
what you can do with a soil knife. And that
is an outstanding gift. If Mom likes hummingbirds, get her
(04:21):
a hummingbird feeder, but make her a planter. If she
doesn't have any a place to plant, make her a
planter underneath it. Put the hummingbird feeder on a stand
in the big planter, and underneath it plant it with
pollinator plants, especially those that hummingbirds like. Ooh, Now you'd
bring the butterflies and everything to that planter, including the
hummingbirds and the hummingbird feeder. So you got a combination
(04:44):
of two. That's the best way to do it. Matter
of fact, our neighbor's hummingbird feeders are pretty close to
our right there, kind of side by side where our
patios are, and I have my like tithonia and other
plants out there that the hummers like, and they'll come
and visit our plants and go up, get a little
dre to come back and visit our plants, go get
little drinks. They go back and forth. But I think
they spend more time in our garden because of the plants.
(05:06):
I know they do so, but the combination of the
two really bring them in. So that's a great combo
to have for mom, and a great gift for Mother's
Day as well. Planting her herbs a herb container, planting tomatoes, peppers,
whatever it may be. And don't forget all about all
the great dwarf varieties of vegetables that are available out
there that you can plant for Mom. Perfect for having
(05:28):
righted her fingertips out of that porch or patio. But again,
get out to your local independent garden centers and check
it out because they have got so many great plants
for you to take a look at for mom and
for you as well, that you are going to just
be blown away. By the way. Speaking of that, roses
always fall into that category, not so much to cut roses.
And cut flowers are fine, and it's bring them inside
(05:49):
for mom and all that. That's fine. I like cut flowers.
I'll get my mom cut flowers. But I also add
to living things outside that will continue to gift the
gifts through the rest of the summer season. And you know,
potting up roses like that petit knockout rose in a container,
having it outside the back door patty or whatever it
may be. And partially it'll take half a day sun
(06:10):
or full day of sun. That thing is great. It's
a petite only gets about eighteen twenty four inches high
and wide, beautiful red flowers and it loves growing in
a container. So there you go. And then if you
get out there and you start looking at the roses,
you'll probably see tree roses as well as that petit
rose in a tree form, all right, So they take
(06:32):
they take a rose stem that's three to four feet high.
That rose on the top of that, all right, and
it's grafted onto another roofstock. You got two graphs going
on there and then this three or four foot trunk
and then the roses on the top grating containers. You
can put it in the ground as well. But here's
the kicker, and I don't think a lot of folks
(06:52):
know this. If you're in zone six or colder, tree
roses typically do not over winter in the ground. Just
leave them outside and let them over winter. If it's
a cold winter at all, they typically don't come through
all right. And a lot of folks sending pictures of saying, hey,
what how to my tree rose? That's saying looked great
(07:13):
last year and it never did anything this spring. They
don't like that. And again, zone six and colder, Zone
seven and down you're usually in pretty good shape, but
not in six and colder. So if you want to
get that tree rose for yourself or for your mom
or grandma or whatever, may be the best way to
(07:34):
grow a tree rose, The best way is in a
large container because and I say that because at the
end of the year, right before Christmas, when the weather
starts to finally cool down. You pull that container, you
give it one last good watering. The plant's starting to
go dormant. You wheel it inside an unheated garage or
unheated shed. Water it once a month and let it
(07:55):
over winter inside an unheated garage or shed. Get the
two wheeler, wheel it back outside in the springtime. Let
it come back to life in the spring, and you're
good to go. That is the best way to grow
a tree rose. Okay, end zone six and colder. Now
if you don't want to do that, and you can
actually do a hole in the ground. Sea can stick
(08:16):
the pot and all down in the ground if you
want it to look like it's growing in the bed.
If you want to leave it outside, you say, I
don't want to go through all that, Well, there are
a couple things you can do to over winter that
you can actually take chicken wire, poultry fencing, wrap it.
Make a cage around that thing as tall as the rose.
Fill that up with straw and leaves as an insulator.
(08:38):
Even put bubble wrap around the outside of that cage
and protect it that way over the winter time. And
most of the time when you do that added protection,
they will come through the winter. The other way, which
is the old fashioned way, is that you go on
half of the rose. You go out about twelve inches
with a sharp square spade, you cut straight down, cut
(08:59):
the roots, and you bend the rose over and lay
it down on the ground. Then you do the same
process that we just talked about with the cage, but
as it's laying on the ground, so you munched the
whole thing over on the ground. A couple things there is.
One is voles can get to it and chew on it,
and they will miceel chew on it and they will
so you kind of try to protect it, maybe put
(09:19):
some repellents in there as well. But over winter it
laying on the ground, and then and you're going to
mulch it from the roots all the way to the top,
and then in the springtime bring it back up, replant it,
push it back down to the ground, and let it go.
That's a lot of work. That's the way it used
to be done. But you know, I learned early on,
and I've always said I love growing these things and containers.
But doctor Patchman was local rosaria in here that knew
(09:42):
just the man was a rose. He loved it, but
his his all coming all the time was the only
way to grow tree roses were in containers, move them inside,
move them back outside, and two wheeler in the garage.
Done deal. Those are great gifts for mom for Mother's
Day or anytime, or for you yourself, but just remember
they need added protection Zone six and colder to overwinter,
(10:06):
otherwise you're gonna wind up losing them over the winter.
And some folks say, well that's okay, I'll just replace
it by another one and grow it as an annual.
You can do it that way as well. Nevertheless, get
out to your local independent garden centers today, tomorrow, it's
Mother's Day weekend, get mom taken care of, get yourself
taken care of. Next week. Of course he'll stay stocked
next weekend as well. Be busy. They're going to keep
(10:27):
as stocked as they can for the next two three
four weeks right up to them more a weekend. So
get out, visit your local independent garden centers and let's
get growing. The time spring has sprung finally for us
and hopefully for you as well. Quick break, we come back.
Guess who's up. Gary Sullivan with a little home improvement
at the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Buggs. It's
all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (13:56):
Welcome back here in the Guiden with Ron Wilson. Happy
Mother's Day weekend. The Happy Mother's Day to all the
moms out there, and what you said we'd learned to.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Bring up on to my mom too, Happy Mother's Day
to her.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Happy Mother's Day to missus sol Or, missus Missus Sullivan,
Missus Gleeson as well. Yes, I met your mom once,
very very nice lady, not at all as mean as
the way you talk about her.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Hey, hey, hey, now you're not supposed to say.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That all air. I'm sorry on the air. I'm sorry,
all right, Not during the break. It's time for I
don't know. Home improvement from the man, the myth, the legend.
He is the most listened to home improvement show host
in the entire Solar system. His website Garysullivan online dot com.
Ladies and gentlemen, he is the one and the only
(14:41):
Gary Suivan and mister Wilson, HELLI I am h outstanding.
Happy Mother's Day Weekend. Yes, big plans for Missus Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
No, I think we're gonna play a little golf in
the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
If Tomorro's in two tech doing a show.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Why would it be taxing?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
These shows are not taxing to you, Well they aren't.
What folks cannot see is you crank back in that
chair with your feet up on the desk, desk and
headphones on and answering questions.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Answer.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We're talking about home improvement.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
That's what we did.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Relaxed, set back and the venus flight the venus flight
trap of home improvement?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's you. So did your mom your mom teach you
anything about home improvement?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Actually, well, I don't know if she really Yeah, yeah,
I mean she was the painter of the house, so
she did pretty much all the painting. Though my dad
he could tackle some bigger projects, you know, like I
when I was in early teenage years. He was one
of the probably one of the first house flippers. We
(15:55):
bought the house across the street, and when he came
home from work and on the weekends, that's what he
did and I followed right along. Ron you know, it
was a yard that was I still remember the yard.
It's a nice yard, and it was all overgrown. It
was totally overgrown. And that was, uh, you know, that
was me and a couple of my buddy's first jobs
(16:16):
in that particular project. Then we got in and put
in flooring, and you know, he did the whole works
and he sold the house.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What is your dad? You say about measuring?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well, his thing is, uh, measure three times and then
cut it three times. I never could figure that out either.
We had, we had we had some kerfluffles about that. Yeah, yes,
I would say, okay, Dad, it's eighty six and a half.
He goes, okay, Gary, go ahead and cut that eighty seven.
(16:49):
Why would I do that? It's eighty six and a half. Yeah,
but you wanna you wanna label little room in case
you screwed up. And he said, well, I didn't screw up.
It's eighty six and a half. That's why we're measuring.
You just cut it at eddy seven. Okay, cut it
aday seven? Go there half inch too long?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah, Well go ahead and cut it eighty six and
three quarter. So were we sneaking up on it? And
so it was, I guess, measure once, cut three.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Times Yeah, that was it. That was it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That was a game plan.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And you definitely do not do that today. No.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
No, In fact, I explained to him that's what molding
and calking is for. He just looked at it, looked
at me, and said, just cut it a day.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Oh golly, yeah, so it goes. But yeah, that was
that was kind of a fun project. But my mom,
she was the she was the painter. She was the
painter of the house.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So she chose the colors and then had you prepped?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
No, I did, I did paint. In fact, a funny
story is my I don't know why we're talking about this,
but it's kind of cool story for dad's listening and mom's.
When I was a kid, I remember my mom saying
her mother died in her forties and my mom raised
like all her siblings, which was like six or seven.
(18:12):
So she was the lady of the house, had to
drop out of high school, and she painted. She fixed
everything in her house. Her father was a carpenter and
when she got married to my dad, my dad's father
was in a hardware business. How about that. Wow, And
he did everything, didn't really show his kids how to
do things, so when my mom went to paint, my
dad said, I don't know how to paint, and she just, well,
(18:35):
come on, big boy, let me show you how to paint.
And she did, and he became proficient at other things
around the house. But my mom, when dad was at work,
and if she wanted to paint, you know who got
So I guess she did show me, right, Yeah, she
showed me how to paint the bedroom. When I was
(18:57):
twelve or thirteen, I remember painting my own bedroom the
color I wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So, yeah, what was that color?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Gary Sullivan, I don't know exactly what that color was,
but I will tell you in my later teenage years,
maybe sixteen seventeen, it was the brightest green you could
ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So you liked the greens, Well, apparently I did. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I don't ever want to see that picture, but I
can still visualize it.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I love it. And you said, you don't know why
we're talking about this, because you're telling stories about your
mom because it's Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
There you go, there you go. So yeah, But as
I got older and got into home improvement, I would
catch my mom go and I've used this on the show.
She would have some old metal chairs to sit out
back on a patio on, and all of a sudden
she'd be painting it, and I'd look at the paint
and I go, Mom, why are you using indoor latex
paint on those chairs? That's all we had. Yeah, but
(19:53):
it's not gonna work. Yeah, yeah, will it's not gonna work.
And it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But when it didn't work, you didn't remind her of that,
did you.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, of course not no.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
And she didn't say, Hey, you were.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right, same as missus Sullivan that you're married to.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I'm not going there.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You're not going to remind her there.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
It's Mother's Day weekend. Don't don't set the trap. I
was myself there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You're gonna talk about home improvement today, Yes, sir, anything
in particular, maybe painting.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
We kind of got off to a might not be
a bad way to start.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I think that's what we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Gary Sullivan coming up next on most of these stages.
If he's not called your station and find out why not,
and also check out his website, Garysullivan online dot com.
Now coming up next on our show, Buggy Joe Boggs
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Green Tom or not.
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It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page in the
Garden with Ron Wilson as well. And as I promised,
it is time for Yes the Buggy Joe Boggs Report.
That would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor commercial for this
shooter fort have a universe extension most Department of Entomology,
poster boy for a issue extension. Co creator of moth
(23:23):
Or Coffee Emporium where I think I got a moth
in my coffee this morning as we opened up the show.
The website is b Y G L dot O s
U dot E ed U Ladies and gentlemen. He can
make waterwinter mister common sensical himself, Buggy Joe Bob, come on.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Good morning, sir Snidley Snidley Whiplash. That's that's me. That's
that's a.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Happy Mother's Day to my brother from another mother.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I'll tell you it has to be. It has to be.
I think we figured that out somewhere in the somewhere
back in time. There must have been a shared relative.
There had to be.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In West Virginia somewhere. We were crisscrossed there with jeans.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Absolutely. Absolutely, Like my grandmother always said, you can't run
away from your genes. I don't know if that had
to do with genetic belt I think maybe, and suspenders.
I was always that way. Boy. I'll tell you stuff
is happening, isn't it. Any Things are really starting to
(24:33):
kick out. Well, you know, with all the rain and
of course this is this is a rarity. You think
about it, Ron, You think of all the different places
that your show goes. I mean, I think it's not
just worldwide. I have a feeling, you know, there might
be well, let's see, they don't call them UFOs anymore.
(24:55):
But I have a feeling somewhere out there in the galaxy.
You know, there's some little, you know, gardening creatures listening in.
I think you're it's a galactic show. But you know,
I don't know where that got. I don't know where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What bug is he talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But you know, at some point the Eastern United States
becomes very divided in terms of what is going on,
right I mean, at some point there's a dry area,
there's a lot of heat, there's some frosts, you know,
and I mean we're a little late for that. Well
not totally, but at some point things really starting to divide.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Thirty this morning at the Arbords house.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, it has we have had some really nice
cool nights there.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We had there was a slight chance of frost in
northeastern Ohio this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, and you know we've had frost well up in
the May, and yeah, it's but the point being is
that right now we're enjoying such a wide nice gardening time,
except you can't plant anything because too wet. The ground
is so wet.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It you get a couple of good sunny days, a
little bit of wind blowing, it'll be dry'll be able
to plan well well.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I'll tell you what dry things out the quickest.
And you know, you and I've talked about this, and
sometimes it's easy to forget just how rapidly a big
maple tree, a big oak tree pulls water out of soil. Sure,
and that's well in turf grass, you know, we which
is looking fantastic. It really is. So this is the
(26:42):
time when you sit on the porch. Actually, this is
a time when you take pictures, right, take the picture
of your house and you know that way you have
it in to look at in August, late July, early
August to say this is like, yeah, I got started
off and went kind of in a pretty negative direction.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We're trying to hang with you, but it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Is this is, this is this has been a very
interesting spring. Things are happening. Finally, the periodical cicadas are
making their presence known. Not coming out in huge numbers
quite yet, but they are. They are emerging, and you
go check it out.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Now, you go look, yo, you go look now, we'll wait.
You go check it out.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's getting cold to night. I heard on
the on the radio that we shouldn't be coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm not coming out yet. You go check it out.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, that is an issue because they do emerge mainly
at night, and which is always an interesting thing to see.
You know, if you're in an area where periodical cicadas
are are scheduled to merge this year, and that's that's
a fairly defined area. It's not you know, northern Ohio.
It's not even central Ohio. It's southern Ohio and a
(28:01):
point south because we go this route goes goes very
far south. And if you're in an area where they're
scheduled to emerge, you know, once you start seeing the evidence,
then wait until you know ten or eleven o'clock. Actually
they get rolling, you know, just after dusk, and just
(28:21):
go out with a flashlight and watch this occur. It's
a pretty interesting thing which only happens in a given
location at about every seventeen to thirteen years, except in
southern Ohio. One am I driving as well? We have
(28:43):
we have you know, we can experience three different brood
emergencies in southern Ohio. And when you think about it,
there aren't too many places in the US where you
have this much overlap. In fact, you know, Ohio is
we used to be the crossroads of the nation, right,
I think we're the periodical cicada emergence site of the nation.
(29:07):
It's it's an interesting it's an interesting situation. But but
you know, this is a fairly big brood and and
so you know, get out and enjoy it. One thing
I do want to emphasize, though, and this could.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Be hugely Hell, you know what, several people just said,
What did Joe just say, get out and enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're breaking up, ron, I don't know that I said that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know, people run scream because those things are out there.
Just get out and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I know, I know, I realized what my entomology thing
kind of it sort of came out, didn't it. I mean,
it's yeah, I try not to do that. I'm working
on that very hard.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I will tell you right up front, Joe Boggs he
may enjoy them, but there's one way that he does
not enjoy them. As it pertains to all the insects
that are out there. He will not eat a cicada.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I just can't do it. I just you know, I know,
I know, just can't do it. I won't do it,
you know. Yes, that's yeah. A lot of my entomology
friends and colleagues, Yes, it's a big deal, and they
claim that it tastes like, you know, something good, and
it might it very well might.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Maybe a potato flavor.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, that's the way.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It all tastes more like the bourbon that I had
it in. I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Remember that's always a funny. You know, it tastes like chickens, right,
that's why I always here. I mean, that's a standard joke,
you know, which is how we know how dinosaurs tasted,
by the way, But that's a little different story.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right, that's a way different story, by the way, Joe,
before we take a break. Two things. One is just
so hearing it from Buggy Joe Boggs. Besides using netting,
and of course cheese cloth is out there, but there's
so much cicada netting out there today, which hell, it
really helps your plants breed, and it's a lot better
for your plants. There's really nothing to do besides sit
back and enjoy them.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, it is true. If you have a if you,
if you and this is you and I talked about this,
whether you'd want to delay planting or or go ahead
and plant, you know, and then protect I really or
don't plant. I mean I don't like that. I never
I never recommend just don't plant a tree. Plant a tree.
When you can plant a tree delayed planting, well, yeah,
(31:42):
that's okay too if it's a containerized because you know,
you basically you can put those in the ground just
about any time, right, But you know it's because all
the root system is there. But if you've planted a
tree in the last year or so, it's a young tree,
and you can do it just first of all, monitor things.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You may not have to do anything exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You know, I took a drive into our predicted cicada
territory and I'm already seeing some pretty remarkable well let's
just say, maybe Halloween decoration, garden art. And I get it.
I mean, I understand, okay, let's get prepared and all that.
But based on the previous emergencies, and this is just
(32:31):
you have hotspots and then you had within that area
almost nothing. Our neighborhood, for example, I did not think
it would get hit during the last emergence in twenty
twenty one. Not this brood. It was another brood, and
I didn't think we'd really have a problem, but we
did coming from the surrounding woods. But Ron, you know,
(32:54):
you and I talked about this at the time. You
could go down the road literally a mile and there
was nothing, and there were big trees. I mean, you know,
there should have been cicadas. I don't know what happened,
but there just weren't any so this this hit or miss,
and even within even within neighborhoods, so older neighborhoods, because
remember we did say this is true. The tree had
(33:19):
had to have been, you know, around seventeen years ago
as a pretty big tree to support cicadas that are
coming out underneath it right now. So we do. We
have some older neighborhoods, and within those neighborhoods, you could
drive and here'd be a location where they were just thick,
and you could literally walk to another location and there
(33:42):
just wasn't It's just that's just that's just how this is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So we got to take a break room. Yeah, and
I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave this real quick.
This was always my theory and I think you agree
with me when we talk about this, is that if
you wait it out and if by and watch the
plants that you are concerned about, if by chances cicadas
come out and they're all over it, uh and they
start jointing, you know, on it, take a garden host
and flush them all off and then cover it. Yeah,
(34:07):
so wait just to be sure, and then you bowl
them all off and then you cover it and you're
good to go, so yeah, and waited out. All right,
we'll take a quick way if we come back and
find out a few things that maybe Buggy Joe baumbs
bug Joe Bogg's mom has taught him when he was
growing up. I'm sure he's got a few things like
my mom taught me religion. Like she always said, you know,
(34:28):
you better pray that that comes out of the carpet,
or you better pray that that grows back or run.
You better pray that your dad doesn't find out.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Did she use all three of your names?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ron? Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah? And I tell you what, I did a lot
of praying when I was a kid growing up, no
doubt about it. All right, quick break, we come back
more with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (36:44):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggsy Port Joe
Boggs OSU Extension b y g L dot O SU
dot E d U Joe, I told you my mom
taught me how to pray when I was early on.
There's a lot of things I better pray about for
some reason, and for some reason, I got a funny
feeling that your mom probably try to teach you logic,
(37:04):
because I can hear your mom saying, Joseph Boggs, if
you fall out of that tree and break your neck,
you're not going to the store with me.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's right. That's how did you know? That's exactly right.
It's all those things. We heard them, all, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, I'm just I'm pausing because I'm just thinking that through,
because yes I did. And the religion thing, I I really,
you better pray your dad doesn't find out.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I pray your dad didn't find out about that. Oh no, hey, hey,
before we go ahead, Now look, I was getting serious,
and now you're getting serious.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I am getting curious because I do want I do wanna.
I want to make sure people hear this and use this.
So if you're in the Cicada area and you have
a decent smartphone, which you know, I like, I say,
I have a smartphone, but only one of us. But
if you have, there is an app called Cicicada Safari
(38:10):
and the cicada Safari. Just I mean, that's that's just
you know two where Cicada Safari. You go to any
of the downloading load sites for apps on your phone,
whether you have a you know, an iPhone or or
or other type of phone, you can you can you
can get this app. And what it does, it's easy
(38:31):
to set up.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It allows you then to go out take a picture
of the cicada and then it will upload onto the
app and it'll mark on a map. You know where
that cicada was found. Doctor Gene Kritsky, you know Gene
from Mount Saint Joe here in Cincinnati. He and their
IT department developed this years ago and they've kept refining it.
(38:56):
And of course, as you and I have said this,
you know, Gene Kritsky literally wrote the book on periodical cicadas,
because he did write a book on this particular brood
as well as a few others. So Gene has worked
very diligently. And why this is so important is we
only get a chance to map out these broods in
(39:17):
this case every seventeen years, and so we're relying on
observations all the way back in two thousand and eight
and you think about that for us to predict where
they might be today, and consequently, you know, there's a
lot of guestswork there, right and back to whether you
need to respond or not. If we take advantage of
(39:39):
each brood learning where they are and where they're not,
then we can help folks to understand well, maybe you
just don't need to worry about them. And a good
example is where we live run. We will have some
emerging right at the edge of where Hamilton County and
Butler County come together. For those listeners outside this region,
(40:02):
we're talking about northern Cincinnati where two canties come together,
and there's a location there that in two thousand and
eight there was a very heavy emergence in that location,
but it's kind of far away from where the main
body of this broote is. So Cicada Safari, I just
urge that you all you know that listeners in the
(40:24):
area that are predicted where they're going to be cicadas
or if you're driving around through it, I download it.
You do have to for the app. You do have
to have it set up so that app can give
Gene and the you know, the software your location. But
you can have that happen just for that app, and
(40:47):
you know how that works wrong. You can just have
that location a finder come on just for the app,
and that's again it's easy as pie, and just do
us all favor too. And this is going to sound
kind of funny. I mean, you can just take a
picture the cicada's coming up on the stem of the
tree and that's fine if you don't need to pick
them up or do anything. Just take a picture and
(41:08):
then you'll you know, there's instructions very easy to post
that picture if you kind of you know, if you
want to. The nice thing might be, though, is if
you can pick this cicada up, And how you do
that is just pick it up by the wings because
the two wings are kind of held tent like over
the body. So if you kind of pinch those two wings,
(41:29):
they don't bite you, they don't do anything like that.
And then turn it over terry taking a picture of
the underside of the cicada. The reason that that's helpful
if you can do it, if a person isn't too
squeamish to do that, that's how we separate the three
species of cicadas that are emerging. So right now there
(41:50):
are going to be three species, and some of these
broods have more like two species, and maybe the third doesn't.
We don't know that. But that's how we can separate
easily the three species. So again a little bit of
a little bit of helping us out with learning where
they are and aren't. I just had to get that
(42:10):
in wrong, because this is this is golden. I may
even say it again over the next week or so.
But I interrupted you. You had very important things to say.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Nothing gott no listen to you.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You were on a roll now.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, I was just going to I was just going
to say that, you know, things are starting to pick
up for you now as far as things going on.
And I laughed this week with all the different things
I've gotten in emails wanting to know what's going on,
and I printed all this stuff out because it's just amazing.
Rose rosette going crazy right now. Oh yeah, I'm getting
(42:50):
maple trees that the branches that aren't leafing out loaded
with scale. I'm getting maple leaves that are loaded with galls.
I'm getting roses that are getting hamed by rose slugs.
I'm getting uh Alberta with cool season mites. And I
got my first thing of sawfly larvae this week on
(43:10):
Mugo plum On my gosh.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, so it's a wonderful time.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I just said, oh my gosh, Joe's just spinning around.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Just loving all this stuff. We finally are having stuff happening.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
There you go, Buggy Joe bal It's always a pleasure.
We'll talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
You have a great week, Ron, take care.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Thank you, thanks to all our colers, thanks our sponsors,
Thanks of course to Danny Glee star producer, because without
Danny and no other stuff would happened. Now, do yourself
a favor. I just got one thing in mind. Get
out there and make it. If your mom's still around,
great and get out there and make it the best
weekend of her life. See it.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
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the garden and he's Ron Wilson.
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