May 3, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding. By the way, if
it's raining at your house right now, are going to
rain this weekend, don't consider it a wash out you
u uh? Remember next weekend is Mother's Day weekend. Right
The week building up to Mother's Day weekend can be
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extremely busy at your locally owned garden centers or anywhere
they sell plants. Actually, so what I would suggest you
do is grab the umbrella and a rainproof jacket or whatever,
get out to your locally owned independent garden centers today
and tomorrow, and I would be doing it because you
know some of the rain might hold some folks back.
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Make it a little bit easy for you to shop.
You can buy those annuals and perennials. If you're looking
for trees and shrubs. If you don't want to take
them with you today, put a soul tag on them,
come back and get them next week. But get those annuals,
Get those vegetables. You're looking for, those tomatoes and peppers,
get them home, set them on the patio, set them
in the garage, set them on side whatever, because after
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Sunday it looks like for our area anyways, starting to
clear out and we'll be into it. And if we
get into it, guess what all the other folks that have
been back there holding off because of all the rain,
they're going to be at the garden centers next week
as well. So get out this weekend and then let
mother nature with the rainfall, be a friend for you
to cut back a little bit on the craziness. And again,
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if you're going to do something for Mom, like if
you're gonna do an herb planter or a pollinator planter,
or are plant some vegetables for or plant an annual
planter or whatever it may be, you could do that
this weekend. You could get the plants, get the container,
potting soil, the soil moist, the osma coat, you know,
and get it already potted up and you don't have
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to mess with it next weekend. And you've got the
free weekend to spend more time with mom. So take
care of Mom's gifts this weekend, get it all ready
to go, and then take it from there. So get
out to your locally owned independent garden centers this weekend
while it's raining, and take advantage get all the plants
that you need to take them home. You can't plant,
but that's okay. Now they're sitting on your back patio
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or in your garage or wherever, and they're ready to go.
So next week when it breaks, guess what, you're not
fighting the crowds. You've already got what you need. If
you've got to go back for one or two plants,
you just go in and get it real quick. Fighting
the crowds next week because it is pre and post
weeks of Mother's Day are the craziest two or three
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weeks of the spring season for all the garden centers.
You know that, I know that, So take advantage of
the rain. By the way, talking about the pollinators, don't
forget we are experiencing have experienced huge losses in honeybees
this past winter. Trying to figure out exactly what you know,
and I think it's going to wind up being nothing specific.
(03:29):
It's still going to be the mites, still going to be,
some viruses is still going to be habitat lack of
I think the winner. Obviously in some areas did a
number on them. Heavy storms have done a number on them.
And climate. Different changes in climate stay warm ineral has
taken a toll on them. As a matter of fact,
Barbie Bletcher our Queen Bee talking about research showing now
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that really warm late falls, those late booming plant plants
like golden rod, the pollen in them decreases when it
stays hot and dry like that late end of the season,
so food sources even less. So that just should tell
you right there. And of course monarch butterflies possibly being
considered added to the possible extinction list, that should tell
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you right there how important we've been talking about this forever,
but how important it is now more than ever to
make sure when you're doing your plantings to include natives,
native species, garden for the birds, garden for the pollinators,
garden for the bees and the butterflies, do all of that.
How much more important that is. Whether it's in the container,
in the ground and the raised beds, it doesn't matter.
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And you know, a great idea, and I don't know
if I read it was reading about this as a
coggestion or whatever, but it's wonderful. You know, if you're
looking to just maybe plant mass plantings of pollinator plants
and you don't have a place in the backyard of
the front yard to do that. You know, sides of homes.
A lot of times we don't do anything on the side,
or we just throw a few shrubs on there just
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to soften it a little bit, or whatever. The side
of your can be great areas for pollinator gardens. Some
folks sometimes are like, well, I don't like bringing the
bees up around the patio. Uh, you know, I'm afraid
the kids are gonna get stung or whatever it may be. Well,
if you put them on the side of the house
where those pollinator plants would be, they're attracted to the
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side of the house rather than around the front porch
or around the back porch or patio, and you still
accomplish it and it looks nice from the sides. But
keep that in mind as well as far as adding
pollinator plants on the side of the house. Side pollinator gardens.
And if you're out there, look at the perennial of
the year. This year, it's a cluster mountain mint.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You plant a couple of those in a container or
in the ground or whatever. They flower all summer long.
Your pollinators are going to absolutely love you for that
one eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
two dayton, Ohio, We go, Betty, good morning, Good morning. Hi.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Earlier you were talking about using be gone. I have
a circle of candy tough underneath my dog wood tree
and it's gorgeous. But I'm fighting the grass and I've
been using it. I've used it last summer at least
two times. Now this year it's some of it's coming
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back up. Would it be of any advantage to shorten
that up before I spray it? Or should I let
it be nice and tall before I spray the grass?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The grass? Let the grass be nice and tall, right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh yeah, shortened and then spray it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nope, the more folish, the more you can get on
the folige, the better off you are so doing you know,
leave it, leave the tall there and going to you know,
spray the whole thing. So you get a lot of
spray on that foliage. But then once that starts to
die back, anytime you start to notice that coming up,
get on it early and get you know, and keep
with it. And you're right. It takes multiple applications. And
(06:59):
I think the other thing we have to remember too,
is that some of those grasses come up also from seed,
and so sometimes you may have or you may have
killed out the grass that had come up from that
particular seed. But on the same token, there may be
other seeds there as well. So a pre immersioned herbicide
such as preene, corn gluten meal, dimension things like that
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may help you as well from stopping those seeds from
coming up. So you go after twice any idea what
type of grass it is?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, I don't know. Okay, it's a very fine, fine
blade grass, okay. And there again on the PRENE would
I put that down in the fall or what you.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Put it down in the springtime? And like right now
would be fine, And because you know you'll see that
Germany throughout, you know, popping up through the summer, so
putting it down in the springtime will help to stop
many of those from from growing. And again look on
the label because sometimes those pre emergents can or can't
be used around certain plants. They'll list as many as
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they can, and I know Prene does a nice job
having a website that you can actually ask them. And
if you can't put that down corn gluten meal, which
is an all natural pre emergent. You could put about
put that around just about anything and everything, but maybe
the combination of the two. And sometimes, Betty, when you
get when it pops up, that's tall. If you could
pull it out, pull two or three of them, go
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to like Sebenthalers or no Wood or somebody like that.
Let them take a look at it and see if
they can identify what it is. For you. That may
help you out a little bit too, to tell us
whether it's an annual or perennial grass, And that'll help
us a bit as well. But you know, try to
identify it too. But yeah, I think a combination of
the two should take care of it for you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, the circle with the candy tuff is really gorgeous.
That's really sick, I'll bet I'm thinking I have to
separate it to put that cream down. Yeah, because you know,
with all the roots, it's really a mass.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yep. What you may have to do is put it down,
you know, in the area, and then take like a
rake and maybe just kind of rake across the top
to move that stuff to get those granules to drop.
And then you got to water it in. I mean
that's important. So what by watering it in. Then you'll
get it off of the foliage down into the to
the soil, and then you should be good to go
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by doing that, So a little bit of like a
broom or something just to just kind of fluff it off.
Then your watering process should wash it off of all
the foliage down into the soil, and then you should
be good to go.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, I've got a second question if you have time. Sure, Okay,
I when we were actually at Myrtle Beach, I bought
myself a souvenir of a crape myrtle shrub. It survived
probably close to ten years. It would die back during
the winter time and then come up new. Right, So
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this last two years it has been, the limbs have
been dried and they're still there the next spring. So
now I have one of those wild honeysuckles trying to
take over. So do I need to put all of
that crape myrtle back to the ground in order to
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get the honeysuckle out of there? Or how do I
go about that?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Can can you see distinctive where that honeysuckle's coming up
out of the ground?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Is it just one stem?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
No, it's multiple stems. But with the crape myrtle being dry,
it is really it punctures my skin when I'm trying
to get in there and get the.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well. Yeah, if you could tell if the crape myrtle is,
is it dead that we're going to cut it back
to the ground anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's it will come back. But I'm wondering if I
should trim back the stems from last year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Before before it had died back itself. I don't remember
cutting it back before, but now you know, I don't
know if they'll leave out or if they're dead and
they need to be cut back.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Take your fingernail or the pruners and scratch the bark
and see if it's green underneath. If it's not, I'd
go back and go ahead and cut it back close
to the ground. And most of the crape myrtles i'm
seeing right now that we're pretty much out in the open,
have lost most of that top growth for the over
the winter and are requiring to be cut back hard
and then coming back up from the root system. So yeah,
(11:40):
I would guess you're probably going to wind up doing
it for that one. And then if you can tell
where the honeysuckle's coming up. If you cut that honeysuckle
off at the ground and just take like a brush
killer or a weak killer and just touch the top
of where you cut off the honeysuckle on the top
of that cut, that'll help to keep that from cut
back up again.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That sounds good. Okay, alrighty, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
All right, Betty, you're welcome. Quick break, we come back.
Gary Sullivan and then Buggy Joe Boggs here in the
garden with Ron Wilson, Green tom or not.
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
Talking to your ardening at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. And then his time for the Man,
the myth, the legend. He is the most listed to
home improvement show host in the entire Solar system. His
website Garysullivan Online dot com Ladies and gentlemen, and he
has on his Kentucky Derby hat which is a nice
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pink with all kinds of frillies. Gary Sullivan, mister Wilson.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Hell in the world are you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is mister Sullivan hav or a Derby hat?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
She does? She already nucked out. I told her it's
twelve hours till racetime. You know, Slow down there, Slow
down there.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Can you imagine going to the derby, getting there like,
you know, in another hour or two and lasting until
seven o'clock for the running of the derby? No, I
couldn't either.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
No, holyes, And I'll tell you what it's that weather's
not going to be ideal today, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, I don't think it's that guy.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I've been there one time, great seats. It was seventy
two degrees and there one that cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I guess that was the one time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think I went once, but I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, I understand that I didn't get there in my
uh let's say the real Hey days. I got there
in the business days, so it was very civil.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, it was Hey days. Unfortunately, I think somebody went
up the flagpole without anything on it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think I have a hard time believing.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I think so. I'm not sure you didn't look at
your notes. I didn't look at the notes.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
So anyway, well, it'll be a money one of them.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sure, guess what I got in the mail. You're going
to be so jealous.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I am.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, I know, because I know you keep up with
all these new plants that are on the market.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:09):
And a couple of years ago they they've been doing
this research on getting these plants, taking the genes from
glowing mushrooms and having plants like petunias that glow at nighttime.
Oh yeah, well I got three of them mailed to me.
The experiment with glowing patunias. Yeah, it's called firefly petunia.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What color are they when they're not glowing?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
White? Kind of a whitish show. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Whole point like a light.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, they just kind of illuminate a little bit. You
just see them kind of glow, kind of a green
and white. I mean the stems and the leaves have
a little bit of a glow also. So yeah, cost
of Farms sent.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Me three, so your petunias are all lit up.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, so my patunonias are going to be lit up
on Derby on Derby Day.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's a coin.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's too bad they don't sell hollow chocolate horses.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Oh who says they don't?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I looked you did? I what min said?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Too much time?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, because I was prepping for the for your our
talk together today.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I understand. So, no, they don't don't have hollow horses.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, we know hollow horses for you.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
All right, Well, what would be.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The bourbon of choice for the men julips at the
Sulllivan House.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You know, I don't know to use good bourbon and
a menjulip or you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Use I go, yeah, you just use No, I know, no,
you use good well, you know I don't. All right,
let's back up for second before yes, and let's back
up for a documentary. Yeah, I don't have a top
shelf low shelf. I have a bottle at my house.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
So yeah, if you use a well bourbon, yes, and
I'm guessing that's what they would use.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Since there's wood for reserve is like the one right now?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh well that's good stuff, that's not well bourbon.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, that's what I'm saying. Woodford reserve, But gentleman Jack
is my go to, and of course Buffalo which which
is a Tennessee whiskey, but that's fine. And then then
we've got the bourbon trace Buffalo trace.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, my choice there would probably be the Woodford. Yeah,
if I made a choice, if you had a choice,
if I made a choice like that. Yeah, I had
a couple of minchus when we went to It's the
only time I've ever had one.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, I can't say it's a one time. Just give
me one.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I heard somebody the other day talking about if you
ever went to a bar and said.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Give me a minchul, that very often.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I'm sure I don't think that happens very well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Then you get the Cinco de Mayo on Monday, and
you get your mon be a hard weekend, but you
got a break in between.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
And I got six grand kids here. Wow, I know,
And we might go to the ball game. But it's
not looking really good for that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Sure about that? Yeah, I think I got the daughter
running in all the flying things. Oh there, right, Yeah,
she's doing all that. Then we got a first communion tomorrow.
I'm telling you we're stacked. In fact, this weekend. That
sounds like you're pretty busy. We are, so probably not
much of going on in home improvement at the Sully House.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Tremendous stuff going on in home improvement, oh said Dolly.
As we always bet on the you know, the grass
one is gonna be green next year. We're gonna remember
we're gonna bet on window fooliages out because it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Was like two days ago when everything's in leap, Yeah,
when everything just went all right, that's fair. We can
do that.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Put that on your notebook.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All right, have a great show and good good luck
with all the grandkids and all right, all right see it.
Quick break We come ask Gary Sullivan by the way, website,
Garysalvon online dot com. Quick break, we come back. You
know who's up next, Fuddy.
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Boggs, good morning.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'm going I'm going through the Derby list. And
I said, and I said, I'm gonna, well, first of all,
my comment is this muddy track, what is it? Nineteen
or twenty horses? You might as well flip a coin.
You might as well just flip a coin and just whatever.
But I said to myself, if I was Joe Boggs,
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and I was looking at the names, which which three
horses would I pick? And I said, m sand Man,
I like Metallica. I'll probably man, I'll probably take Sandman. Oh,
Cold Battle, West Virginia Coal Battle, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
gotta take that. And you talk about a cool word tantastic. Oh,
(24:26):
I like that word tantastic. So if I was Joe Boggs,
those would be my three picks, just based on the
name of the horses.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And that means, that means and about half way through
all three will be grazing in the infield.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Will be stuck in the mud.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they just you know, it starts and in any
parts I picked, they just they go a little bit
and you can just you just see the thinking. It's like,
wait a minute, what am I doing.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm too tired to finish this crass.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Looks greener over on the other side of that fanc there.
I'm gonna I'm gonna sounder wonder over and get this
guy off my back. I gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You, was I was I even close on those?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You know, you nailed all three? In fact, I was, no,
I'm serious. No, fantastic, I love I love that. That
that I mean, that's such a neat word. It took
me a bit to work that out. I hate to
say it, but I I was looking, what is that?
That's fantastic? Sandman though, I got to say that was
(25:37):
because any horse I pick is going to sandbag, right,
I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
The Cold Battle, I mean that's West Virginia Cold Battle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yes, they just comes right in there. But you know
there's another seeing running through here. You know, publisher and journalism.
What is going on there?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, everybody I know that's in the media business betting
on journalism.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah yeah, but you got to have a publisher.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, you gotta have a publisher, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I don't know. And then you needed the Luxure
Cafe to admire Daytona. I mean, you know you got
a whole story, couldn't you located on?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just yeah, just based on the names. All right, I'll
give mine up because we I'm gonna get this out
of the way right off the bat. My long shot
is flying.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Mohawk, Yeah yeah, which would.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Have been your wrestling name had you been in the
w W E exactly, aircut, Citizen, Citizen Bull, it's the show. Yeah,
and I did have Grande as though I actually did
have Grande to pick as a win got scratched yesterday.
(26:50):
Uh so I'm gonna have to go with Basa. Ah
yeahs which was it was eligible and in course a
couple of horses got scratched. So now in the in there,
that's my that's a dark horse, that's my Those are
my three.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, yes, I'm even looking I'm just I'm just now
looking at I don't even see odds on basin.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well at what he was eligible, he was a twelve
to one. Okay, I really don't look at that that much.
I look at the horse and the name and who's
riding him.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And I do too, I do too, you know, And
and the owner trainer. Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's it's we got bob bathfor I mean, hey, there
you go, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There you go. I mean that's hard to that's hard
to get to bed again, stouldn't it? How you like it?
I know you know this. I'm not a gambling man.
I mean I I.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Don't have money to gamble away.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well that's that too, that's exactly right. But it's just
I mean I never I just never had a desire
because of well, ay right, so I never told fold him.
Well yeah, and and as my wife will tell you,
I do not have a poker face. So and you
(28:12):
know that, I.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Mean, you can one, which, by the way, I was
I was talking with a an acquaintance of yours yesterday.
I've gotten to know over the years who met you
at a social gathering one time, and well he really
is crazy?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What okay? Oh yeah, yep, that's been a long time
it was that has been a while. Gee whiz, Yeah,
well let's get done to it. No, this is good,
(28:54):
this is good. No, it's just you know, this is
a very this has been a very interesting spring. Some
things are moving along like they should. Other things just
aren't happening. I mean, uh, I'm waiting. I'm truly. I
made a drive over to what I considered to be
Cicadaville and nothing. I don't know what's going on? Are
(29:20):
you getting I'm I'm now asking people.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Too, areture of those mud tunnels and all getting ready
to go, And then she had emailed backsins, I haven't
seen anything.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's interesting because the the soil temperatures, it should be there,
so I don't know. It's kind of interesting. Of course,
every I went back and looked at my past writings
and things that every every brood always does this to us.
I mean, it's like, oh, it should be happening, and
(29:56):
then you wait, and then you wait, and then it
happens quickly. Although in twenty twenty one now we didn't
get to last year. Of course, a lot of listeners,
you know, really got to experience the huge two brewed
mergent emergence or I couldn't say that fast.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
A couple of times, a.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Thirteen year emergence and a seventeen year emergence. A thirteen
year was in the Southern States and the and the
seventeen year was in Illinois. And you know, it was
almost a perfect sort of semi circle around Ohio, wasn't it.
But everybody thought we would have them last year. But
(30:38):
talking to some folks I know further south, they had
the same situation in terms of, well, they should be up,
they should be on the trees. But we're still waiting.
And speaking of waiting, I am doing with one of
our forest entomologists, doctor Caleb Perry. She's located up in Worster, Ohio.
(31:01):
She's the lead author on a fact sheet that we're
producing on fall webworm and it's and there's another there
is another odd ball insect and that. How long has
it been since we've had a significant number of those
reason bring it at least? And in fact, I think
(31:25):
I think two or three years ago you and I
brought this up. You reported I called you, Yeah, I
forget I see it, and so yes, and I wrote
it up. You know alert, Oh yeah, we found on that.
(31:46):
Oh my goodness, maybe a lot of people are showing up,
you know and taking pictures of it. No, I'm just joking,
but it was just a very it's been very odd.
Although I say that, but you know these uh these
are native insects. Well, the periodical skate obviously, but fall
web worm, eastern tent caterpillar has been another one that's
(32:10):
been very odd.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't any reports for that anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Just just nothing, even places I was.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Going to say, even bagworms.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Bagworms have been in the bag for a while. I mean,
I keep and you know that, and they've gone from
where we had year after year of pretty consistent reports.
And I recall you and I talking on the radio
about about bagworm. It just seemed like they were getting there,
like more and more. It's gonna happen next year to
(32:41):
eat our houses, oh yeah, and then just boom. Well
there's a reason I think for the bagworm collapse, if
you will, and that is they do have a low
temperature threshold. They overwinters eggs. And this is true of
not as many insects as people think. You know, you
and I get this all the time. Well, it was
(33:01):
a mild winter where we're gonna have a lot of
pass or it was a really cold winter, so we're
not going to have many pass and ye, actually it is.
It is a bit rare for either of those to
substantially suppress native pass and even some non natives, because
(33:22):
they you know, if we take a look at something
like eastern tent caterpillar, that that is a very wide
range fall web worm, everything from Canada all the way
down into the deep South, and and so you know,
they they have evolved the ability to withstand quite a
few weather regimes and unless we have something truly unusual,
(33:45):
like a polar vortex. And that's where I'm heading with
all this, and you're looking at the clock and you
better head there quickly. Here where do I go? Well,
the polar vortex that we had some years ago now
truly took the pins out from under a bagworm. The
(34:06):
eggs do have, like I said, a lower temperature threshold
that they do not survive. And so we had fairly
high populations. It just seemed like they were, you know,
knowing better and better and better. Actually that's from my perspective, right.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, yeah, there's a lot of by Joe.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, that's it to where we just had nothing after
the polar vortex, and they still haven't recovered well, although
you and I keep seeing hotspots. Of course we're talking
way ahead of ourselves because you know bagworm doesn't have
yet early Yeah, yeah, it's it's about a month off.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, we're just looking at the past and we'll see. Anyways,
take a quick break, we'll sing the song where of
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two with the Buggy. Joe Boggs Report Mister
Joe Boggs Thesue Extension Website byg O dot OSU dot edu.
I was collecting up some cartoons the other day, Joe,
I thought of you. I do a little newsletter thing
for the employees every week. And has this bee sitting
in the chair and he's reading the eye chart and
(37:33):
the doctor says, a very good, mister Combs, you have
perfect twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty. In that eye,
now cover your other eye.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's a good that is really that's a very well.
And you know that's a perfect segue because you know
where I'm heading when you talk about.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Ibs, where are you headed?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh? Well, there's a name given for carpenter b's And
we've actually talked about carpenter bees before, of but man,
they are really becoming active.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's I probably have the heaviest population this year on
our patio that I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And so why would we call them I bees because
they fly right at eye level. Very often they'll just
hover right in front of your eyes. Of course, those
are the males, and that's very important when it comes
to two bees, that that these aren't the only bees,
that that the males are are all show and no sting,
(38:37):
because of course they don't have an overpositor in in
case the carpenter bees, the females over winter, they overwinter
inside the you know, the the burrows are ready to go,
and the and well both of them over winter and
so then in the spring we start getting you know,
all of this activity, and it really cranks up quickly.
(39:00):
One thing I need to get out of the way, though,
is that if you take a look, I mean, there's
a great interest in pollinators these days, right, it's becoming
a just a maybe holy grail would be the word
for a lot of gardeners is to have pollinator gardens.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, take a look at what you might think are
bumble bees and see how often they are in fact
carpenter bees. I see carpenter bees all, you know, dominating
the scene. And the way you can tell a carpenter
bee from a bumblebee, and when I say bumblebee, I'm
talking about a lot of different species. The way you
(39:41):
can tell is you look at their abdomen. That's you know,
the back at half of the insect. And carpenter bees
do not have any hairs on the abdomen. They're black
and shiny and pretty easy to see. Now we often
say they're also very big. But you know, there's a
little variability there, you know that sometimes see a carpenter
be and think, well, I just it didn't get quite
(40:03):
the amount of pollen maybe when it was just a
little larvae, you know, just.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, pollen like that.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So my point being is that they're very important pollinators,
but of course then they also have this destructive nature
of boring into in the wood. And I was very
careful in terms of I almost said raw wood or
untreated would but you know that's not always true either.
There's sometimes you'll have a painted wood. We tend to
(40:34):
recommend that you paint wood if you have a carpenter
b problem. But it has to be the right kind
of paint right sometimes And that's where Gary Soliving comes in.
We have to give him a call every time. In fact,
you're going to post his phone number. Is that right
for people to call?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Get a number.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
After nine pm? I think that's what you know, call
after nine pm. The point being is that you know,
some stains, some paints and paints in general do a
better job, but some just don't do as good a job.
They don't last as long. And you know, some of
some of the highest populations I've seen have been on
(41:15):
portrails that were stained. You know, they they and you think, well,
you know, well that's just the surface treatment, right, and
if it's not the right thing here, I'm talking like
I know something that Gary really should be the one
talking about this. It's not always something that dissuades them.
But once they do target a source for producing their tunnels,
(41:40):
it's they don't go away, do they No, they just continue.
So what do we do about it? Well, you know
there's the I think you've used the tennis racket approach, right,
I let them.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Do their thing. But yes, I have done the tennis racket.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I've done the tennis racket thing. I've done all this.
But I'm like you, we have some some fence rails
that will probably need to be replaced eventually. But you know,
the fact is they're decaying anyway. Is that may you know,
it's like okay, this they're out there weathering and and
so they're going to need to be replaced anyway. And
(42:18):
as I said, they're very they're very important pollinators. So
you know, let's not maybe get as carried away as
as what you know, we we might think we should
on something like that. But if you do, if you
are concerned about, you know, loss of structural integrity, then
there are some things that you and I've talked about
(42:39):
this before. One of my favorite was, uh was, you know,
wait till the activity is gone, and unfortunately, you will
probably kill some of the larvae. Uh, and just inject
with something like a liquid nails product or something that
that that that fills in you know that gap. I
think Gary recommended something else. You guys are talking about
(43:01):
something else before.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I always use liquid. I'm always used liquid nails, and
it was put structure back in the.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh, in fact, I tested it and I know this.
Oh well, we'll talk about the test results next week.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, yeah, we'll get We'll get Joe's test results next week,
whether or not he's positive or negative. And by the way,
lots of reports from folks working in the yards and
garden this week, uh picking up ticks. Oh yes, lots
of ticks out.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
There right now.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So you might want to chat about that next week too.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I think we should. All right, I think we should.
You have a great weekend, and uh, let's watch the races.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Got it? Thanks Joe, always a pleasure, Joe, Bob, joeys
you extension. All right, quick break, not a quick break.
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding. By the way, if
it's raining at your house right now, are going to
rain this weekend, don't consider it a wash out you
u uh? Remember next weekend is Mother's Day weekend. Right
The week building up to Mother's Day weekend can be
(01:01):
extremely busy at your locally owned garden centers or anywhere
they sell plants. Actually, so what I would suggest you
do is grab the umbrella and a rainproof jacket or whatever,
get out to your locally owned independent garden centers today
and tomorrow, and I would be doing it because you
know some of the rain might hold some folks back.
(01:21):
Make it a little bit easy for you to shop.
You can buy those annuals and perennials. If you're looking
for trees and shrubs. If you don't want to take
them with you today, put a soul tag on them,
come back and get them next week. But get those annuals,
Get those vegetables. You're looking for, those tomatoes and peppers,
get them home, set them on the patio, set them
in the garage, set them on side whatever, because after
(01:42):
Sunday it looks like for our area anyways, starting to
clear out and we'll be into it. And if we
get into it, guess what all the other folks that have
been back there holding off because of all the rain,
they're going to be at the garden centers next week
as well. So get out this weekend and then let
mother nature with the rainfall, be a friend for you
to cut back a little bit on the craziness. And again,
(02:04):
if you're going to do something for Mom, like if
you're gonna do an herb planter or a pollinator planter,
or are plant some vegetables for or plant an annual
planter or whatever it may be, you could do that
this weekend. You could get the plants, get the container,
potting soil, the soil moist, the osma coat, you know,
and get it already potted up and you don't have
(02:26):
to mess with it next weekend. And you've got the
free weekend to spend more time with mom. So take
care of Mom's gifts this weekend, get it all ready
to go, and then take it from there. So get
out to your locally owned independent garden centers this weekend
while it's raining, and take advantage get all the plants
that you need to take them home. You can't plant,
but that's okay. Now they're sitting on your back patio
(02:48):
or in your garage or wherever, and they're ready to go.
So next week when it breaks, guess what, you're not
fighting the crowds. You've already got what you need. If
you've got to go back for one or two plants,
you just go in and get it real quick. Fighting
the crowds next week because it is pre and post
weeks of Mother's Day are the craziest two or three
(03:08):
weeks of the spring season for all the garden centers.
You know that, I know that, So take advantage of
the rain. By the way, talking about the pollinators, don't
forget we are experiencing have experienced huge losses in honeybees
this past winter. Trying to figure out exactly what you know,
and I think it's going to wind up being nothing specific.
(03:29):
It's still going to be the mites, still going to be,
some viruses is still going to be habitat lack of
I think the winner. Obviously in some areas did a
number on them. Heavy storms have done a number on them.
And climate. Different changes in climate stay warm ineral has
taken a toll on them. As a matter of fact,
Barbie Bletcher our Queen Bee talking about research showing now
(03:52):
that really warm late falls, those late booming plant plants
like golden rod, the pollen in them decreases when it
stays hot and dry like that late end of the season,
so food sources even less. So that just should tell
you right there. And of course monarch butterflies possibly being
considered added to the possible extinction list, that should tell
(04:13):
you right there how important we've been talking about this forever,
but how important it is now more than ever to
make sure when you're doing your plantings to include natives,
native species, garden for the birds, garden for the pollinators,
garden for the bees and the butterflies, do all of that.
How much more important that is. Whether it's in the container,
in the ground and the raised beds, it doesn't matter.
(04:35):
And you know, a great idea, and I don't know
if I read it was reading about this as a
coggestion or whatever, but it's wonderful. You know, if you're
looking to just maybe plant mass plantings of pollinator plants
and you don't have a place in the backyard of
the front yard to do that. You know, sides of homes.
A lot of times we don't do anything on the side,
or we just throw a few shrubs on there just
(04:57):
to soften it a little bit, or whatever. The side
of your can be great areas for pollinator gardens. Some
folks sometimes are like, well, I don't like bringing the
bees up around the patio. Uh, you know, I'm afraid
the kids are gonna get stung or whatever it may be. Well,
if you put them on the side of the house
where those pollinator plants would be, they're attracted to the
(05:17):
side of the house rather than around the front porch
or around the back porch or patio, and you still
accomplish it and it looks nice from the sides. But
keep that in mind as well as far as adding
pollinator plants on the side of the house. Side pollinator gardens.
And if you're out there, look at the perennial of
the year. This year, it's a cluster mountain mint.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You plant a couple of those in a container or
in the ground or whatever. They flower all summer long.
Your pollinators are going to absolutely love you for that
one eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
two dayton, Ohio, We go, Betty, good morning, Good morning. Hi.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Earlier you were talking about using be gone. I have
a circle of candy tough underneath my dog wood tree
and it's gorgeous. But I'm fighting the grass and I've
been using it. I've used it last summer at least
two times. Now this year it's some of it's coming
(06:18):
back up. Would it be of any advantage to shorten
that up before I spray it? Or should I let
it be nice and tall before I spray the grass?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The grass? Let the grass be nice and tall, right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh yeah, shortened and then spray it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nope, the more folish, the more you can get on
the folige, the better off you are so doing you know,
leave it, leave the tall there and going to you know,
spray the whole thing. So you get a lot of
spray on that foliage. But then once that starts to
die back, anytime you start to notice that coming up,
get on it early and get you know, and keep
with it. And you're right. It takes multiple applications. And
(06:59):
I think the other thing we have to remember too,
is that some of those grasses come up also from seed,
and so sometimes you may have or you may have
killed out the grass that had come up from that
particular seed. But on the same token, there may be
other seeds there as well. So a pre immersioned herbicide
such as preene, corn gluten meal, dimension things like that
(07:23):
may help you as well from stopping those seeds from
coming up. So you go after twice any idea what
type of grass it is?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, I don't know. Okay, it's a very fine, fine
blade grass, okay. And there again on the PRENE would
I put that down in the fall or what you.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Put it down in the springtime? And like right now
would be fine, And because you know you'll see that
Germany throughout, you know, popping up through the summer, so
putting it down in the springtime will help to stop
many of those from from growing. And again look on
the label because sometimes those pre emergents can or can't
be used around certain plants. They'll list as many as
(08:06):
they can, and I know Prene does a nice job
having a website that you can actually ask them. And
if you can't put that down corn gluten meal, which
is an all natural pre emergent. You could put about
put that around just about anything and everything, but maybe
the combination of the two. And sometimes, Betty, when you
get when it pops up, that's tall. If you could
pull it out, pull two or three of them, go
(08:28):
to like Sebenthalers or no Wood or somebody like that.
Let them take a look at it and see if
they can identify what it is. For you. That may
help you out a little bit too, to tell us
whether it's an annual or perennial grass, And that'll help
us a bit as well. But you know, try to
identify it too. But yeah, I think a combination of
the two should take care of it for you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, the circle with the candy tuff is really gorgeous.
That's really sick, I'll bet I'm thinking I have to
separate it to put that cream down. Yeah, because you know,
with all the roots, it's really a mass.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yep. What you may have to do is put it down,
you know, in the area, and then take like a
rake and maybe just kind of rake across the top
to move that stuff to get those granules to drop.
And then you got to water it in. I mean
that's important. So what by watering it in. Then you'll
get it off of the foliage down into the to
the soil, and then you should be good to go
(09:25):
by doing that, So a little bit of like a
broom or something just to just kind of fluff it off.
Then your watering process should wash it off of all
the foliage down into the soil, and then you should
be good to go.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, I've got a second question if you have time. Sure, Okay,
I when we were actually at Myrtle Beach, I bought
myself a souvenir of a crape myrtle shrub. It survived
probably close to ten years. It would die back during
the winter time and then come up new. Right, So
(10:00):
this last two years it has been, the limbs have
been dried and they're still there the next spring. So
now I have one of those wild honeysuckles trying to
take over. So do I need to put all of
that crape myrtle back to the ground in order to
(10:21):
get the honeysuckle out of there? Or how do I
go about that?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Can can you see distinctive where that honeysuckle's coming up
out of the ground?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Is it just one stem?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
No, it's multiple stems. But with the crape myrtle being dry,
it is really it punctures my skin when I'm trying
to get in there and get the.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well. Yeah, if you could tell if the crape myrtle is,
is it dead that we're going to cut it back
to the ground anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's it will come back. But I'm wondering if I
should trim back the stems from last year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Before before it had died back itself. I don't remember
cutting it back before, but now you know, I don't
know if they'll leave out or if they're dead and
they need to be cut back.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Take your fingernail or the pruners and scratch the bark
and see if it's green underneath. If it's not, I'd
go back and go ahead and cut it back close
to the ground. And most of the crape myrtles i'm
seeing right now that we're pretty much out in the open,
have lost most of that top growth for the over
the winter and are requiring to be cut back hard
and then coming back up from the root system. So yeah,
(11:40):
I would guess you're probably going to wind up doing
it for that one. And then if you can tell
where the honeysuckle's coming up. If you cut that honeysuckle
off at the ground and just take like a brush
killer or a weak killer and just touch the top
of where you cut off the honeysuckle on the top
of that cut, that'll help to keep that from cut
back up again.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That sounds good. Okay, alrighty, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
All right, Betty, you're welcome. Quick break, we come back.
Gary Sullivan and then Buggy Joe Boggs here in the
garden with Ron Wilson, Green tom or not.
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
Talking to your ardening at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. And then his time for the Man,
the myth, the legend. He is the most listed to
home improvement show host in the entire Solar system. His
website Garysullivan Online dot com Ladies and gentlemen, and he
has on his Kentucky Derby hat which is a nice
(15:50):
pink with all kinds of frillies. Gary Sullivan, mister Wilson.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Hell in the world are you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is mister Sullivan hav or a Derby hat?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
She does? She already nucked out. I told her it's
twelve hours till racetime. You know, Slow down there, Slow
down there.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Can you imagine going to the derby, getting there like,
you know, in another hour or two and lasting until
seven o'clock for the running of the derby? No, I
couldn't either.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
No, holyes, And I'll tell you what it's that weather's
not going to be ideal today, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, I don't think it's that guy.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I've been there one time, great seats. It was seventy
two degrees and there one that cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I guess that was the one time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think I went once, but I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, I understand that I didn't get there in my
uh let's say the real Hey days. I got there
in the business days, so it was very civil.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, it was Hey days. Unfortunately, I think somebody went
up the flagpole without anything on it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think I have a hard time believing.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I think so. I'm not sure you didn't look at
your notes. I didn't look at the notes.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
So anyway, well, it'll be a money one of them.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sure, guess what I got in the mail. You're going
to be so jealous.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I am.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, I know, because I know you keep up with
all these new plants that are on the market.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And a couple of years ago they they've been doing
this research on getting these plants, taking the genes from
glowing mushrooms and having plants like petunias that glow at nighttime.
Oh yeah, well I got three of them mailed to me.
The experiment with glowing patunias. Yeah, it's called firefly petunia.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What color are they when they're not glowing?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
White? Kind of a whitish show. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Whole point like a light.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, they just kind of illuminate a little bit. You
just see them kind of glow, kind of a green
and white. I mean the stems and the leaves have
a little bit of a glow also. So yeah, cost
of Farms sent.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Me three, so your petunias are all lit up.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, so my patunonias are going to be lit up
on Derby on Derby Day.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's a coin.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's too bad they don't sell hollow chocolate horses.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Oh who says they don't?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I looked you did? I what min said?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Too much time?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, because I was prepping for the for your our
talk together today.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I understand. So, no, they don't don't have hollow horses.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, we know hollow horses for you.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
All right, Well, what would be.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The bourbon of choice for the men julips at the
Sulllivan House.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You know, I don't know to use good bourbon and
a menjulip or you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Use I go, yeah, you just use No, I know, no,
you use good well, you know I don't. All right,
let's back up for second before yes, and let's back
up for a documentary. Yeah, I don't have a top
shelf low shelf. I have a bottle at my house.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
So yeah, if you use a well bourbon, yes, and
I'm guessing that's what they would use.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Since there's wood for reserve is like the one right now?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh well that's good stuff, that's not well bourbon.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, that's what I'm saying. Woodford reserve, But gentleman Jack
is my go to, and of course Buffalo which which
is a Tennessee whiskey, but that's fine. And then then
we've got the bourbon trace Buffalo trace.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, my choice there would probably be the Woodford. Yeah,
if I made a choice, if you had a choice,
if I made a choice like that. Yeah, I had
a couple of minchus when we went to It's the
only time I've ever had one.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, I can't say it's a one time. Just give
me one.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I heard somebody the other day talking about if you
ever went to a bar and said.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Give me a minchul, that very often.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I'm sure I don't think that happens very well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Then you get the Cinco de Mayo on Monday, and
you get your mon be a hard weekend, but you
got a break in between.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
And I got six grand kids here. Wow, I know,
And we might go to the ball game. But it's
not looking really good for that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Sure about that? Yeah, I think I got the daughter
running in all the flying things. Oh there, right, Yeah,
she's doing all that. Then we got a first communion tomorrow.
I'm telling you we're stacked. In fact, this weekend. That
sounds like you're pretty busy. We are, so probably not
much of going on in home improvement at the Sully House.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Tremendous stuff going on in home improvement, oh said Dolly.
As we always bet on the you know, the grass
one is gonna be green next year. We're gonna remember
we're gonna bet on window fooliages out because it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Was like two days ago when everything's in leap, Yeah,
when everything just went all right, that's fair. We can
do that.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Put that on your notebook.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All right, have a great show and good good luck
with all the grandkids and all right, all right see it.
Quick break We come ask Gary Sullivan by the way, website,
Garysalvon online dot com. Quick break, we come back. You
know who's up next, Fuddy.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Joe, Bob.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
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with Ron will And I'll get Joe Strucker for that
picture that's on there. Uh yep, I'm gonna get him
payback as heck, Joe, what can I say? It's time
for the buggy Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Buggs,
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Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Boggs, good morning.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'm going I'm going through the Derby list. And
I said, and I said, I'm gonna, well, first of all,
my comment is this muddy track, what is it? Nineteen
or twenty horses? You might as well flip a coin.
You might as well just flip a coin and just whatever.
But I said to myself, if I was Joe Boggs,
(24:04):
and I was looking at the names, which which three
horses would I pick? And I said, m sand Man,
I like Metallica. I'll probably man, I'll probably take Sandman. Oh,
Cold Battle, West Virginia Coal Battle, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
gotta take that. And you talk about a cool word tantastic. Oh,
(24:26):
I like that word tantastic. So if I was Joe Boggs,
those would be my three picks, just based on the
name of the horses.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And that means, that means and about half way through
all three will be grazing in the infield.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Will be stuck in the mud.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they just you know, it starts and in any
parts I picked, they just they go a little bit
and you can just you just see the thinking. It's like,
wait a minute, what am I doing.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm too tired to finish this crass.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Looks greener over on the other side of that fanc there.
I'm gonna I'm gonna sounder wonder over and get this
guy off my back. I gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You, was I was I even close on those?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You know, you nailed all three? In fact, I was, no,
I'm serious. No, fantastic, I love I love that. That
that I mean, that's such a neat word. It took
me a bit to work that out. I hate to
say it, but I I was looking, what is that?
That's fantastic? Sandman though, I got to say that was
(25:37):
because any horse I pick is going to sandbag, right,
I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
The Cold Battle, I mean that's West Virginia Cold Battle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yes, they just comes right in there. But you know
there's another seeing running through here. You know, publisher and journalism.
What is going on there?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, everybody I know that's in the media business betting
on journalism.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah yeah, but you got to have a publisher.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, you gotta have a publisher, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I don't know. And then you needed the Luxure
Cafe to admire Daytona. I mean, you know you got
a whole story, couldn't you located on?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just yeah, just based on the names. All right, I'll
give mine up because we I'm gonna get this out
of the way right off the bat. My long shot
is flying.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Mohawk, Yeah yeah, which would.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Have been your wrestling name had you been in the
w W E exactly, aircut, Citizen, Citizen Bull, it's the show. Yeah,
and I did have Grande as though I actually did
have Grande to pick as a win got scratched yesterday.
(26:50):
Uh so I'm gonna have to go with Basa. Ah
yeahs which was it was eligible and in course a
couple of horses got scratched. So now in the in there,
that's my that's a dark horse, that's my Those are
my three.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, yes, I'm even looking I'm just I'm just now
looking at I don't even see odds on basin.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well at what he was eligible, he was a twelve
to one. Okay, I really don't look at that that much.
I look at the horse and the name and who's
riding him.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And I do too, I do too, you know, And
and the owner trainer. Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's it's we got bob bathfor I mean, hey, there
you go, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There you go. I mean that's hard to that's hard
to get to bed again, stouldn't it? How you like it?
I know you know this. I'm not a gambling man.
I mean I I.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Don't have money to gamble away.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well that's that too, that's exactly right. But it's just
I mean I never I just never had a desire
because of well, ay right, so I never told fold him.
Well yeah, and and as my wife will tell you,
I do not have a poker face. So and you
(28:12):
know that, I.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Mean, you can one, which, by the way, I was
I was talking with a an acquaintance of yours yesterday.
I've gotten to know over the years who met you
at a social gathering one time, and well he really
is crazy?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What okay? Oh yeah, yep, that's been a long time
it was that has been a while. Gee whiz, Yeah,
well let's get done to it. No, this is good,
(28:54):
this is good. No, it's just you know, this is
a very this has been a very interesting spring. Some
things are moving along like they should. Other things just
aren't happening. I mean, uh, I'm waiting. I'm truly. I
made a drive over to what I considered to be
Cicadaville and nothing. I don't know what's going on? Are
(29:20):
you getting I'm I'm now asking people.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Too, areture of those mud tunnels and all getting ready
to go, And then she had emailed backsins, I haven't
seen anything.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's interesting because the the soil temperatures, it should be there,
so I don't know. It's kind of interesting. Of course,
every I went back and looked at my past writings
and things that every every brood always does this to us.
I mean, it's like, oh, it should be happening, and
(29:56):
then you wait, and then you wait, and then it
happens quickly. Although in twenty twenty one now we didn't
get to last year. Of course, a lot of listeners,
you know, really got to experience the huge two brewed
mergent emergence or I couldn't say that fast.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
A couple of times, a.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Thirteen year emergence and a seventeen year emergence. A thirteen
year was in the Southern States and the and the
seventeen year was in Illinois. And you know, it was
almost a perfect sort of semi circle around Ohio, wasn't it.
But everybody thought we would have them last year. But
(30:38):
talking to some folks I know further south, they had
the same situation in terms of, well, they should be up,
they should be on the trees. But we're still waiting.
And speaking of waiting, I am doing with one of
our forest entomologists, doctor Caleb Perry. She's located up in Worster, Ohio.
(31:01):
She's the lead author on a fact sheet that we're
producing on fall webworm and it's and there's another there
is another odd ball insect and that. How long has
it been since we've had a significant number of those
reason bring it at least? And in fact, I think
(31:25):
I think two or three years ago you and I
brought this up. You reported I called you, Yeah, I
forget I see it, and so yes, and I wrote
it up. You know alert, Oh yeah, we found on that.
(31:46):
Oh my goodness, maybe a lot of people are showing up,
you know and taking pictures of it. No, I'm just joking,
but it was just a very it's been very odd.
Although I say that, but you know these uh these
are native insects. Well, the periodical skate obviously, but fall
web worm, eastern tent caterpillar has been another one that's
(32:10):
been very odd.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't any reports for that anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Just just nothing, even places I was.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Going to say, even bagworms.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Bagworms have been in the bag for a while. I mean,
I keep and you know that, and they've gone from
where we had year after year of pretty consistent reports.
And I recall you and I talking on the radio
about about bagworm. It just seemed like they were getting there,
like more and more. It's gonna happen next year to
(32:41):
eat our houses, oh yeah, and then just boom. Well
there's a reason I think for the bagworm collapse, if
you will, and that is they do have a low
temperature threshold. They overwinters eggs. And this is true of
not as many insects as people think. You know, you
and I get this all the time. Well, it was
(33:01):
a mild winter where we're gonna have a lot of
pass or it was a really cold winter, so we're
not going to have many pass and ye, actually it is.
It is a bit rare for either of those to
substantially suppress native pass and even some non natives, because
(33:22):
they you know, if we take a look at something
like eastern tent caterpillar, that that is a very wide
range fall web worm, everything from Canada all the way
down into the deep South, and and so you know,
they they have evolved the ability to withstand quite a
few weather regimes and unless we have something truly unusual,
(33:45):
like a polar vortex. And that's where I'm heading with
all this, and you're looking at the clock and you
better head there quickly. Here where do I go? Well,
the polar vortex that we had some years ago now
truly took the pins out from under a bagworm. The
(34:06):
eggs do have, like I said, a lower temperature threshold
that they do not survive. And so we had fairly
high populations. It just seemed like they were, you know,
knowing better and better and better. Actually that's from my perspective, right.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, yeah, there's a lot of by Joe.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, that's it to where we just had nothing after
the polar vortex, and they still haven't recovered well, although
you and I keep seeing hotspots. Of course we're talking
way ahead of ourselves because you know bagworm doesn't have
yet early Yeah, yeah, it's it's about a month off.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, we're just looking at the past and we'll see. Anyways,
take a quick break, we'll sing the song where of
all the bugs gone, long time pass and keep singing
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two with the Buggy. Joe Boggs Report Mister
Joe Boggs Thesue Extension Website byg O dot OSU dot edu.
I was collecting up some cartoons the other day, Joe,
I thought of you. I do a little newsletter thing
for the employees every week. And has this bee sitting
in the chair and he's reading the eye chart and
(37:33):
the doctor says, a very good, mister Combs, you have
perfect twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty. In that eye,
now cover your other eye.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's a good that is really that's a very well.
And you know that's a perfect segue because you know
where I'm heading when you talk about.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Ibs, where are you headed?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh? Well, there's a name given for carpenter b's And
we've actually talked about carpenter bees before, of but man,
they are really becoming active.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's I probably have the heaviest population this year on
our patio that I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And so why would we call them I bees because
they fly right at eye level. Very often they'll just
hover right in front of your eyes. Of course, those
are the males, and that's very important when it comes
to two bees, that that these aren't the only bees,
that that the males are are all show and no sting,
(38:37):
because of course they don't have an overpositor in in
case the carpenter bees, the females over winter, they overwinter
inside the you know, the the burrows are ready to go,
and the and well both of them over winter and
so then in the spring we start getting you know,
all of this activity, and it really cranks up quickly.
(39:00):
One thing I need to get out of the way, though,
is that if you take a look, I mean, there's
a great interest in pollinators these days, right, it's becoming
a just a maybe holy grail would be the word
for a lot of gardeners is to have pollinator gardens.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, take a look at what you might think are
bumble bees and see how often they are in fact
carpenter bees. I see carpenter bees all, you know, dominating
the scene. And the way you can tell a carpenter
bee from a bumblebee, and when I say bumblebee, I'm
talking about a lot of different species. The way you
(39:41):
can tell is you look at their abdomen. That's you know,
the back at half of the insect. And carpenter bees
do not have any hairs on the abdomen. They're black
and shiny and pretty easy to see. Now we often
say they're also very big. But you know, there's a
little variability there, you know that sometimes see a carpenter
be and think, well, I just it didn't get quite
(40:03):
the amount of pollen maybe when it was just a
little larvae, you know, just.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, pollen like that.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So my point being is that they're very important pollinators,
but of course then they also have this destructive nature
of boring into in the wood. And I was very
careful in terms of I almost said raw wood or
untreated would but you know that's not always true either.
There's sometimes you'll have a painted wood. We tend to
(40:34):
recommend that you paint wood if you have a carpenter
b problem. But it has to be the right kind
of paint right sometimes And that's where Gary Soliving comes in.
We have to give him a call every time. In fact,
you're going to post his phone number. Is that right
for people to call?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Get a number.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
After nine pm? I think that's what you know, call
after nine pm. The point being is that you know,
some stains, some paints and paints in general do a
better job, but some just don't do as good a job.
They don't last as long. And you know, some of
some of the highest populations I've seen have been on
(41:15):
portrails that were stained. You know, they they and you think, well,
you know, well that's just the surface treatment, right, and
if it's not the right thing here, I'm talking like
I know something that Gary really should be the one
talking about this. It's not always something that dissuades them.
But once they do target a source for producing their tunnels,
(41:40):
it's they don't go away, do they No, they just continue.
So what do we do about it? Well, you know
there's the I think you've used the tennis racket approach, right,
I let them.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Do their thing. But yes, I have done the tennis racket.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I've done the tennis racket thing. I've done all this.
But I'm like you, we have some some fence rails
that will probably need to be replaced eventually. But you know,
the fact is they're decaying anyway. Is that may you know,
it's like okay, this they're out there weathering and and
so they're going to need to be replaced anyway. And
(42:18):
as I said, they're very they're very important pollinators. So
you know, let's not maybe get as carried away as
as what you know, we we might think we should
on something like that. But if you do, if you
are concerned about, you know, loss of structural integrity, then
there are some things that you and I've talked about
(42:39):
this before. One of my favorite was, uh was, you know,
wait till the activity is gone, and unfortunately, you will
probably kill some of the larvae. Uh, and just inject
with something like a liquid nails product or something that
that that that fills in you know that gap. I
think Gary recommended something else. You guys are talking about
(43:01):
something else before.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I always use liquid. I'm always used liquid nails, and
it was put structure back in the.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh, in fact, I tested it and I know this.
Oh well, we'll talk about the test results next week.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, yeah, we'll get We'll get Joe's test results next week,
whether or not he's positive or negative. And by the way,
lots of reports from folks working in the yards and
garden this week, uh picking up ticks. Oh yes, lots
of ticks out.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
There right now.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So you might want to chat about that next week too.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I think we should. All right, I think we should.
You have a great weekend, and uh, let's watch the races.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Got it? Thanks Joe, always a pleasure, Joe, Bob, joeys
you extension. All right, quick break, not a quick break.
We're done. Thanks all of our colors, Thanks our sponsors,
Thanks of course of Danny Gleeson, our producer, because without
Danny Gleeson, none of the stuff would happen. To Danny,
thank you so much for all you do now out
there to your local park garden centers this weekend, even
though it's raining. Get your flowers, your vegetables and all,
and make it the best weekend of your life.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
See you
Speaker 4 (44:11):
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