Ron Wilson 6/29/2024 Hour 3

Ron takes your calls, questions and tips. Gary Sullivan and Buggy Joe!

Episode Transcript

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Our total free number here in thegarden eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Good morning. Iam Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy.
Were talking about yarning on this lastSaturday in June. Can you believe
it? Next week is July fourth, weekend? Long win. I bet
there's then a few weeks after that. I'll be in North Carolina, and
then after that, Danny's going tobe on vacation for a little while,
and then the next thing, youknow, school's back. I imagine Joe

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will fill in for us, Iwould imagine so. And then of course
the fall season is right around thecorner. It's crazy how fast things seem
to fly. But yeah, nextSaturay or next Thursday, July the fourth,
and then of course Friday, SaturdaySunday. I would imagine there's a
lot of folks having a four dayweekend next weekend, taking Thursday, Friday,
Saturday Sunday off. I hope you'reable to do that as well.

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Still time to get out there anddo planting. Looks we're gonna have some
cooler temperatures here after tomorrow in ourarea for a few days, so still
time to get out and plant,you know, and I've always said,
you know, if you get outto the local garden center and you find
that last minute tomato plant, oryou know, a pepper plant that you've
never tried before and you want togive it a shot, or maybe all
of yours got knocked out for somereason, and you want to still plan

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a couple. It's late, butyou can do it. You would have
a late crop, but you couldstill pull that off, and there's still
time to do like a you know, a second crop of beans. If
you haven't done that second crop ofcucumbers and squash, like the zucchini,
that can be done. You couldeven plant a pumpkin right now and do
well for those two gorgs the sameway. So there are still lots of

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things that you can plant in thatgarden through about the fourth of July,
and then we kind of start toback off at that point, ride through
the rest of the summer, andthen start to look at our fall gardening
by the time we get into midAugust. Because if you're going to use
some do some of the cool seasoncrops like cabbage and some of the kales
and all that broccoli, that takesa little bit longer you've got to get

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them planted earlier in August, whichis kind of weird because they like the
cooler weather. But you got tostart them early enough so that they've got
plenty of time to uh, todevelop and the mature. So you know,
we'll talk about that a little bitmore later on. But there is
still time for planting, and stilltime for planting annuals. The Wilson household
planting annuals yesterday trying to get everythingfinished up. We didn't get everything planted,

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but we will probably today or tomorrowand get it all watered in and
go through the rest of the summer. I'm always one of the last ones
to plant in the neighborhood, justbecause I'm in the business. That's the
way it works, right, shoeshoe shoemakers' kids, you know, they
don't have shoes. That's the wayit works. By the way, I
want to thank Nina Bagley again forjoining us this morning. That anytime I
talk to Nina or Barbie Bletcher oranybody about bees, I don't know about

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you unless you're a beekeeper, myhead just spins. It just they're so
so intriguing. What you know beesdo? Honey European honey bees. What
honey bees do and how they youknow, work together and all that.
You know, we read about itall the time and learn about it,
but the things that they do justin mother nature just absolutely mind boggling.

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What happens there. And then likeNina was, you know, as a
as a queen bee breeder and hasbeen able to supply those now taking the
route of saying, hey, learnhow to do it yourself, keep them
within your own you know, beself sustainable and do it yourself. What
a great way. And she's aroundteaching now how to do that. But
every time I just get you know, you just imagine all this going on,

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even what she was doing as faras breeding and picking out the queen
bees, having the right drone andall that. You're just like, oh
my gosh, and it's bees andyou're working with bees. But the end
result, obviously the pollinators that theyare and the great job that they do
there, and of course the rewardof the what the honey and of course

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pollen if you are into eating thepollen as well. But yeah, that's
just mind boggling. Every time Italk to anybody about bees, I just
you learn something new every time,and you're just like, I can't believe
that happens. All right, let'ssee here eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Don't forget ourwebsite. Ron Wilson online dot com.
Planet of the week is climbing Hydrangea. If you've never heard of climbing hydrangea

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before, way under used in thelandscape. Check it out. You'll probably
find a spot that you want toplant one in your yard. To Kentucky
we go, Dennis, Good morning, morning iron, I'm great seraing yourself.
Oh pretty good? Good. Igot a question about an arbravida.
This thing is about twelve years old. I just noticed recently this thing has

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covered with bagworms. I've never seenanything. There's real tiny ones are they
probably less than a half inch long? Good? And the damage started at
the very this thing is. It'sabout twenty feet tall. I mean,
it's very healthy, never had anyproblems, and the damage started at the
top. It's just turned brown.I got some spector side on a hose

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end spray and I've sprayed it acouple of times. Is that gonna do
any good? I mean, howdo I tell if I've killed them or
not. Well, I don't know. You'll you'll if you if you watch
closely, you'll be able to seeif they're active or not. If you
can see them, I mean,are they just in the top of the
arbor viding or they go through thewhole thing. Well, they started at
the top and now they're all theway that they've come all the way down

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to the bottom. But it's stillgreen at the bottom. But i'd say
about three or four feet at thetop. It's just just like you little
match to it. It's just yep. And here's the thing about bagworms.
If the population wasn't that high,sometimes they'll eat the evergreen the needles off.
But if they don't bother the buds, sometimes they will come back out

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the following year. So don't giveup on it yet. You know,
by June next year you'll know forsure whether or not it's going to leave
back out or reneedle. If itdoesn't, then you've got to go up
there and take that off. Andtypically arbur viidy will try to send up
another leader somewhere down the road soyou can get it to recover out of
that over time. But you know, I was going to say, but

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as far as spraying, the thingto do is when you do spray,
and I'm assuming the spectra side whateverit was, you had had bagworms listed.
Yes, okay, you want tomake sure you soak the heck out
of it. So when you dospray, you soak the entire plant so
it is dripping with the insecticide.Okay, and the usually one application now

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that they could back. You know, the thing of it is if there's
multiple bags on there, originally theycan be happening at hatching out at different
times, so you could get ayou know, a little bit here and
a little bit there. But ifyou soak it really well, the ones
that are on there, within acouple of days, you should notice them
not being active anymore. So youkind of look and see and they don't
move, and they're not you know, not chewing anymore. You know,

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you're good to go. And sometimesit may take a second application to make
sure you've got them all under control. And it's just a matter of monitoring
and and finding some of those smallerones that are on there. And when
you say they're you know, reallysmall, that's a good thing that you
caught those small you know down belowyou've caught those early enough, they'll you'll
prevent a lot of serious damages likethey did at the very top. But

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again, i've I've sprayed it twicein the space of about a week and
a half. Is that that thatthat's good? Yeah, that's good,
and you did really soak it.I think that's the important thing, that
you cover everything. Yes, thenwhat I would do again. I don't
know when the last time was yousprayed, but I would look again.
You know, we're looking at Monday, they're talking seventy degrees, a great

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day to get out and spray ifnecessary because of the cooler temperatures. Whether
you're notited, you need to doit one more time just to make sure
you got them under control at thatpoint, and then you should be good
to go. And if you domiss one or two, always inspect later
on in the season to see ifyou've see any larger bags in the plant.
You always hand pick those off.And then, like I say,
for the top part, now it'sjust a matter of sitting back and waiting

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to see if they actually will budback out next year and come on for
you. If they don't, youclip it out, give it time.
Sometimes they'll send out like a tryto send out a new leader or two
or three and come right back onfor you again. So you know that's
that is salvageable. Okay, doyou have time for one more crust?
Sure? Knockout roses. What's thebest time to turn those crunos back?

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What I'll do with knockout roses,I'll clean them up at the end of
the season, all right, atthe end of the year, just kind
of clean them up a little bit. But I'll do the major pruning and
major cutbacks in late winter early spring, and that you get it right before
the new growth comes out. Andyou know, you can take those things
back to twelve fifteen inches off theground, really small and really force up

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a nice new plant that'll get,you know, around three feet tall at
by the time it stops growing withlots of color. But I like doing
it more so after you go throughthe winter, get into the spring season,
then give it the good cutback andlet it go from there. Okay,
thank you very much. All right, Dennis, good talking with you
and Greg and Cincinnati. Good morning, Yes, good morning. Actually I'm

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in northeast Indiana. Okay, I'llstart that's right. One question for you,
or maybe two I've got new constructionand the lawn has not been seated
yet, it's been grated and it'sready to go. Is this a good
time of the year to seed alawn? Being one hundred percent honest with

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you, Greg, it's probably oneof the worst. Okay, I mean
being honest, because you know whatand what they may do. If they
can come in and hydroceeed that foryou, where they put down the insulation
that goes over the top and justlet it sit, that may be a
good thing for you to do becauseonce that starts to come up, if
you've got it hot and dry,you're going to be dealing with some grass

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it's going to try to grow andnot grow and the whole nine yards.
So technically the better time to doit would be toward the end of August
and into September. That's the ultimatetime. But in many cases you can't
do that because you don't want erosionand things like that. And that's why
I say, if they can dothat hydro seeding, that really helps to
cut down on erosion. Let itjust sit there and mother nature is going

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to rain on it and some ofit's going to start to grow, but
just let us sit there and thenonce you get into the better temperatures,
hopefully you'll start to go from there. But it's right now is not a
good time to trying to establish anew lawn. Okay, all right,
I'll let my contractor know about that, and also, Ron, what is

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a good seed for this particular area. I'm from the South, and I
know about the bermuda and all that. Then what's what's good? I'll tell
you what you know. There's noone best grass seed for any area in
the cool season grasses, but onethat I think is at the top of
my list anyway for most conditions,and that would be the turf type tall

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fescues. And turf type tall fescueis a it's just a it's a deeply
rooted, well rooted, low ondisease problem, low on insect issues,
and there are many new selections thatare available for you. I do suggest
when you use a turf type tallfescue, you use a blend of three

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or you know, two or threeor four different types. Then they'll do
that, they'll put them in ablend together and do that, and I
think you'll find really really good results. Lower maintenance by using the turf type
tall fescues. But again I hopethat you're able going to be able to
hold off until later all August earlySeptember to do that seating, because right

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now is not a good time obviouslybecause of the weather. That's I mean,
it's a bottom line, all right, quick break, We come back
home Improven with Gary Salivan and thenBuggy Joe Boggs. Here in the Garden
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with Ron Wilson. Time for theman, the myth, the legend,
the one and only most listened tohomes Ruben show, hosting the entire solar
system. His website is Gary Sulimanonline dot com. Ladies and gentlemen,
the one the only Gary Sommon.Good morning, mister Wilson. You are
so relaxed today, right relaxed?I am relaxed? Why am I relaxed?

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Why are you so relaxed? Gothis feet up on the list.
You get yourself cranked back like Benusfly trap candles on lights down low.
It's summertime. It's summertime. Summertime. Sometimes summertime. It's a busy time
of year. Mister Wilson, haveyou been outside and did you go out
this morning at all? No,this is this is the truth. I

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opened the door up at four fifteento go out to my truck to come
to the studios. Felt like thetropics. I had to punch my way
out the door through the humidity.I looked at I got the adity.
I went, oh my gosh,I had the tropics out. I had
a tug to get my door openon the truck. It was so thick,

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thick, thick, it was likethick beans. It was thick stuff.
Man, eighty four here in Cincinnatiright now, Jesus pize. But
we get some showers, maybe today, some tonight, maybe eighty tomorrow,
less humid and seventy eight on myNo, I know, a couple of
good days. Yeah, it's goingto be the theme of our show.
I'm tired of giving how to keepyour house nice and cool. We're gonna

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say, hey, let's get outsideand take a look at the things we
really should have been doing this summer. What it was hot, when it
was when it was too hot todo it right? I bet you cannot
put the I know you don't havea blacktop driveway, but I bet you
couldn't see all your driveway over thelast couple of days. Well I wouldn't,
but you could. I know youcouldn't. No, I know you
couldn't have Oh yeah, why not? Because too many leaves on there?

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Am I correct, mister Sullivan.There's a there's a house in our neighborhood
that has I bet you have fiveor six river birches in their front yard.
You can't even see the lawn.Yeah, I mean they're shedding leaves
like yep. I keep thinking they'renot going many leaves left. But as
we all know, mister Sullivan,Yes, sir, next year those birds

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will be right back strong. Insteaddo it again. It'll do it again,
and we'll shed those leaves all summerand come back the next year.
I think I can't remember what deckthe grass might have been last Sunday or
Monday. And put the bag onjust to suck up all the leaves between
the little strip of grasp between thehouses, just to get there were so

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many that there. They weren't goinganywhere, so I had to remove them,
and I did next morning they werethere again. I know, I
know you didn't listen to our queenbee breeder segment. But uh, that
is one one hobby that I don'tthink you would ever take up. Well,
I wouldn't want to get stung,not that part. I don't want

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to get stung either. It's toomuch work for it too. It's not
all about easy, that's not no. Well, I don't want to do
it. No, That's why Isaid. That is one hobby I know
you would not be. I don'twant to do it. I don't know
though. The byproduct, the honeyis pretty good though. That's why we
have beekeepers. It's risky badly,and you go and buy and support those

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local beekeepers by purchasing their honey andother products. Well, I saw I
read a little social media post fromour friend Ed Fink and his son went
up to Akron to pick up acouple what they call them colonies nukes nukes.
Okay, well he went to pickup a couple of nukes and put

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in there. We got it allset up, and dang it if I
didn't then get stung by a hornetlike we got like thousand bees. But
when we were finished and got themall calmed down, and they get stung
by a hornet. Got the smokegoing to settle them down a little bit.
Then I got stung by a hornet. Man, don't go to Vegas.

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No, Yeah, you're right,that's bad luck. That's what I'm
thinking. Wait at they have hornetsin Vegas. But now I understand what
you're saying. There you go,there you go. It's I'm slow.
Yeah, that's all right, that'sall right. It's summertime. Well,
Venus swy trap. What are yougoing to talk about today? We are
we're going to do outdoor We haven'thad much time to really talk about outdoor
projects where we are at. Wehad a lot of coolish temperatures, we

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had rain, and then we hadstifling heat. And it's gonna be a
couple of nice days. So we'regonna cover a little xterior painting today and
garage floor coatings. So we're gonnawe're gonna work this weekend. Do we
ever talk about it's gonna be easy. We're gonna work this talk about the
safety of using a ladder when necessary, Well, if you've got to climb,

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you got to use a ladder.And we hope you're using it safely,
but we can do tips on that. You don't like to have the
uh the one arm dance? Nonow? And you know as I get
older, ladders don't appeal to meas much anymore. Yeah. We're never
used to bottom me, you knowwhat I mean? And no used to
lean way over there. Oh cleanthe way out, Let it tip,
Let it tip with you too.Oh yeah, kind of work it a

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little bit, walk it and allthat. Hang on to the gutter.
Garry Solomon online dot com. GarySalomon, have a great weekend, have
a happy Fourth of July. Thankyou. You do the same. Buggy
Joe coming up next Green Time orNot. Ron can help at one eight
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in the garden with Ron Wilson andas I promise, it is time for
wait for it, stop bugging joeboxs apartments. Joe Box is just a
professor, commercial word coach, educator, really honestate university stens. You know
it's your department. Why are youlaughing at me? But okay, yeah,
just the way I am I understandpost a boy for issue. Just

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getting tired. I'm Marian b yg L dot O su dot need you
ladies and gentlemen. The one,the only mister Buggy Joe Bogg. So
I got nothing. I mean,I'm coming off a staycation and uh,
you know it's it's one of thosethings where I don't know if you've done

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this before, where you just stayaround, right, you take you take
time off, you just what elsedo you do? Well, that was
the only time. A little more, a little more it was a little
more serious this time. But wehad a lot of a lot of identification

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emails right you were, you wereon vacation and you were answering my emails.
You know, I am disappointed inyou, I really am. Well,
the listeners need to know. Imean, I have this special bell
that goes off just for you.I mean it's no one else, and

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don't let anybody else know about it. I won't. Yeah, I didn't
tell anybody. I dumped that allright. By the way, I know,
when we were kids growing up,you made all kinds of goofy sandwiches.
And I was talking a couple ofweeks ago about how I really like
tomatoes and American cheese. Take itby the tomato, by the American cheese.
Great combination, Dwayne, I cansee that, Dwayne. My dad

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used to do that. I gotit from him, and I just I
just could eat cherry tomatoes or anytomato and American cheese until I just threw
up. But anyway, said thatwhen he was little, he created a
sandwich. He used peanut butter,grape jelly, tomatoes, sliced tomato,
and American cheese. Not well,that's interesting. Well, you know,

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I will say this when you hearthese, you know, these let's just
say interesting combinations, right, interesting. It is interesting when you they don't
sound good until you try it,and then you say, I haven't tried
it. Yeah, so I can'tsay for sure. Just sounds a little
different. Well, that happens thesedays in salads. You know, there

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are all kinds of different salads outthere that when you look at the ingredients
and you know, and put itall together and think of it, well,
if you wouldn't think that would gowell together, you know, it's
I mean, I have to say, and I know there's going to be
a lot of people out there tosay, what you know, there's but
strawberries and salad at first just didn'tseem like the right thing to do.

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Now, but not too hear thathappen it's yeah. Well, of course,
then that takes a salad in awhole different direction, doesn't it.
And then my, how could thosestrawberries and bacon taste good together? Amazing?
Get blue cheese? You go,hey, what it just doesn't sometimes

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make good sense when you think ofwell, the first time I have to
say, and now I don't knowwhy that this seemed like it seemed odd.
But you know, blue cheese meltedover potato chips. The first time
I heard that, I thought,oh, oh yeah, yeah you too.
Oh my gosh, City Diner inColumbus, Ohio. That's the first

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there, you go, that's thefirst place I ever had that. And
when that was first described to me, I can't. I love blue cheese.
Of course, potato chips. Thatsort of goes you know me who
doesn't almost right, but does notalso have holiday sauce on it. You
know, we all have to goup. Well, yeah, I'll take
you to cultivate and go, uh, it has the sauce. I think

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that's holiday, so I'm not mistaken. And the blue cheese crumbles on it
and then slightly melted, just slightlyheat it up. Oh my gosh,
it's it's ridiculous. A tag chipsI think they call it. You know,
that's a good that's a that's agood point. I forgot about the
hollandaise sauce. I forgot about that. There's a sauce on it chips,

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and then the or the cheese andthen the chips, crispy Kettel chips underneath.
By the way. But while we'retalking food, and then his breakfast
time still, you know, thewhile on vacation, we went down the
Big Bone Lick State Park in Kentucky, and that was that's a really nice
area of Kentucky, I have tosay. And of course it's just straight

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south and but we came across,you know, a restaurant that, oh
my goodness, you know, Ireally do get the craving of biscuits and
gravy. You know, it's justI grew up on that. Oh my
goodness, run it was. Itwas heavenly let's just put that foot that
way just you know. Yeah.In fact, I can't talk right now.

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I'm just drew all over. Itsembarrassing. I just said, hey,
what were we going to talk abouttoday? This is a food networks
and gravy sounds good to me.Well, you know, hot sausage in
it. Oh my goodness, youknow all right, you did it?
Now you know what we ran Weran out of We ran out of sausage

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grease. One time with my uncle. We had a whole bunch of people
there, my uncle Doug, andhe was making saucyes gravy and we needed
to make more, and so hetook olive oil. You talk, you
talk about it. Grease saucy gravywas with olive oil. Do you know
I did that? I? Oh, this has been several months ago,

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the same because i'd heard, andmaybe from you now I don't know,
but i'd heard that you could reallydo nicely, you know, substituting you
know, the regular oil you wouldhave, or well the grease, but
you know, with olive oil.And I was. I was blown away.
I mean, you know the problemis. See, that's the challenge

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right there. You know, it'sit's it's like one of those meals where
you throw out the window anything thatmight be you know, a little bit
bad for you. Right, Sothe olive bails are like, no,
this is tasting great and it's goodfor me. I I can't eat this.
I got to go back to youknow, you know, a couple
of months ago I made I madegravy with chreesa sausage. Have you ever

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done you got? Yeah? Letme Oh yeah, that's right, that's
right. And it really came out. It really came out fantastic. I'll
tell you. It's cooking with Ronand Buggy Joe. Speaking of eating,

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all right, here's the twist.You know how you always liked the twist?
Yeah, speaking of eating? Uh, the picture I sent of you
to you of the box tree moth? Yes, what was eating sitting on
that box? That box? Wouldthat nobody else noticed it besides you?

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I think you know, I nowit was. I believe European paper wasp.
Yes, yeah, Now here's thechallenge. And of course I have
to say that just because in thepicture, you know, it was a
bit small, and I you know, I should have clicked on it to
see if I could, if Icould make it larger, but you know,

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blow it up a bit. Ididn't. But there is the European
paper wasp looks just it's shaped exactlylike our regular paper wasps. I mean,
if you see him side by,they have exactly the same body plan.
You know, very narrow waist andyou know, very long legs and

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all that, but they have themarkings of a yellow jacket. And so
you know when I when I sawthat shot, at first I thought it
was a yellow jacket. They're out. I mean, as I said to
you, I'm kind of predicting wemight have a pretty big year with yellow
jackets and bald faced hornets. Butthat's yet to unfold. But you know,

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it is just a reminder and youand I talked about this before last
year. In one of the locationswhere box tree moth was very heavy,
we the yellow jackets were really givingthe caterpillars a run for their money.
It was amazing the boxwoods were buzzing, and of course for listeners thinking well,

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what's the connection, And you know, this is where the food thing
comes together, doesn't it. Imean, we've been talking about eating and
you know, tree sausage and allthis stuff, and maybe they's what they
taste like. I don't know tothe yellow jackets. I should have added
that, but it's just it's justone of those things where we overlooked wasps,

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yellow jackets, paper wasps, baldfaced hornets. Our meat eaters very
serious meat eaters, and they feedthat meat to their young, which are
these helpless grub like larvae back inthe nest. And without that meat,
you know, the young could notdevelop. And so, as I said,

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they're very serious meat eaters. AndI have a feeling that people are
going to have to think about thatduring the break a little bit right while.
Yeah, I'll leave you with this. One also had an email saying
I had one hundred peaches on mytree yesterday, but they were gone in
the morning. What ate my peaches? We'll have more with the Greg Pie

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Time for Part two of the BuggyJoe Box Report Buggy Joe Box O SU
Extension b y G L dot Os U dot E d U. Do
you know what day it is?What day is it? That time it
is? I mean Saturday? Whenyou're on, When you're on stay home
vakeing a vacation when you lose timethere's no doubt exactly, that's exactly right.

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I did well there, Yes youdid. I'm proud of you.
So what day is it? Yeah? Really, I don't know. Oh,
I thought it was a special day. No Saturday. I'm just checking
to make sure you knew it's biscuitand gravy day. That's why we're declaring.
Maybe there really is that. Idon't know if there is an actual

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day for that. If there isn'twe should make that Yes, there probably
is. You know, we haven'ttalked about a single insect hardly, except
for the loss that there's another oneout there that you and I touched on
last week, right, the planthoppers. Yes, we sort of ran
out of time a bit. Wedidn't get to go into too much depth
on it. But but that's somethingthat during my staycation out walking around,

(36:28):
it surprised me. Ron. Itend to think of some of these soft
bodied insects as having problems when itgets really hot and dry, but they
are, these plant hoppers, andso just very brief description, I am
going to do a posting on them, you know, I just I didn't.
I didn't do it during my staycationbecause well, let's be honest,

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you know, I had to makecertain promises to my wife. Yes,
it would have been your exactly.Oh that was in secret, you know.
Don't let anybody know that. Imean, just just bring you and
me let me tell you. That'sbut uh, but out walking around,

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I was very surprised at still.Well, I shouldn't say still. This
is the time of year when wesee them. But I thought the hot,
dry conditions that we've had really throughoutyou know, much of the eastern
United States until recently, I thoughtit would would really limit the development of
these things. But what we're talkingabout is if you're out and about or

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even in your garden or you're landscaping, you might you might see on the
stems or under the leaves, onthe lower surface of the leaves, mostly
uh, these little like puffballs.You look very closely, and you have
these insects are covered in what wecall white, floculent or cottony material.

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And if you, uh, yousort of you know, use your finger
and touch them, you'll see thatthe insects are actually kind of embedded in
that they move around there. We'renot talking about something like a mealy bug,
which is using on the stem andyou can kind of see I mean
merely bugs. You can sort ofsee the segmentation these You really have to

(38:19):
look closely to see that there isan insect in there, and they cover
themselves in the waxing material, presumablyfor two reasons. One is that you
know, it does tend to limitthe impact of predators. I've actually never
seen. This is one thing thatI've looked for to try to take pictures

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of, because you know everything allof these plant eaters, and of course
plant hoppers do use their piercing suckingmouth parts to withdraw sap from the plant,
but they there are never enough numbersand they're not large enough to cause
any appreciable harm, so I reallyneed to say that. But still,

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you know, you tend to thinkthere's going to be something that eats them.
And I've never seen a lady beetle, for example, chowing down on
one of these. And probably ithappens, but it's not like aphids.
I mean, you and I bothknow this. If you have a big
crop of aphis, you're going tosee a lot of lady beetles in their
larvae. But these plant hoppers,I think part of the problem is they

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take a bite, and it's like, you know, not eating cotton candy.
It's like literally taking a bite ofcotton or something, because you know,
they just they just don't they don'tattract that many predators. The other
reason is when we see insects thatare covering themselves in a wooly material,

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it's also to help prevent them fromlosing water dehydrating. And it certainly works
well because, like I said,walking around you know, this past week
after coming off, I mean,this past week wasn't horrible. The week
before, you know, was notso good. But it obviously works well

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because they were still developing. Imean, I'm still seeing a lot along
the trails. And as I saidlast week, they're deceptive because you think
something bad is happening, don't you. I mean, and they can be
fairly high on a plant. Nowif you have an herb garden, for
example, because sometimes they will appearin herb gardens and that's not so good

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because you know, we don't wantto eat that fucky material either. Right,
they can be removed with a steadystream of water. They might climb
back on and you've got to bea little careful with this though, you
know, I both know this insecticidalsoap works very well, but you have
to be mindful not to spray iton a plant in the afternoon. The

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heat of the afternoon right early morningis okay, and that will really take
care of them. And of coursein secticidal subject and don't make it.
I keep that, don't make thesesolutions up yourself, you know, don't
do the do it yourself type,because the detergents and the soaps that we
have for washing ourselves with or washingour clothes, whether they're not designed to

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be sprayed on the plants. AndI always remind people that the same people
that make some insecticidal soaps also makeherbicidal soaps, right, And it turns
out that the chemistry of both ofthem are exactly the same, except well
they're not exactly they're they're they're twodifferent. Now we'll go in. There're

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two different isomers, meaning the molecules, you know, what's in the molecules
looks the same, except there's justa reversal of the shape of the molecules.
And that's it, very minor tweakof the of the molecule. It
goes from insecticide to an herbicide Sowhen when people who manufacture detergents or manufacture

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soaps, you know, do thechemistry, they don't. They're not thinking
about whether it's going to kill plantsor not. So I've seen, and
you've seen over the years, alot of damage done by the dew yourself.
Right. Oh yeah, So ifyou're yeah, if you're battling athids,
or if you're battling you know,any insect that insecticidal soa will work,

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well, go to your garden centerand buy the material that's made to
spray on plants. And it's veryit's can be very effective. I've washed
off these plant hoppers on some herbsin our previous home, which is just
one application. They never never cameback, but it did. It did
make the herbs a little bit morepalatable, right. Uh. Yeah,

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So one one lady bug says tothe other, you got to get your
way through the cottony park because it'sreally moist on the inside. Okay,
cartoon time, I know what you'redoing. Yeah, I might have to
do that. Yeah, yeah,far either buggy Joe Boggs. Not only
a few people would get it,right if you on and then December the

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fourteenth, is Biscuits and gravy Day, December the fourteenth. Okay, we've
got it. We need to startplanning right now. I already have to
do it. Remote already got itmarked on the calendar. Gary Place.
Yeah something, Yeah, we gottado it. Hey, Buggy Joe,
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