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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. And
you know, when it comes to planting bulbs, when it comes,
whether it's in the fall, or in the spring or
in the summer. If you've got questions about bulbs, If
I have questions about Bob's, we always go to our
bulb expert, you know who I'm talking about. The website
you want to check out, and it is a great one,
by the way, flowerbub dot eu. That's Flowerbalb dot eu.

(00:24):
Ladies and gentlemen, our good friend Peggy and Montgomery. You
got a crowd here, you got a crowd. Good Morgan,
how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm good? How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I am doing great? How did this Stenson plot? And
look this spring?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh just amazing. They actually my front yard bulblon just
finished blooming. It was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I bet, I bet your neighbors love you for that.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know, it's really funny. We have a small neighborhood
and everybody walks, you know, and folks have just never
seen bulbs coming up in a lawn before, and they
do love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And that's of course we learned that from Peggy and
it's called Stenson plotting. And she just has bulbs everywhere.
That's what's all about planting bulbs and bulbs and bulbs
and bulbs. So it's just one big bulb display in
the springtime. But we talk we think a lot about
bulbs planting in the fall for spring flowers, But what
about bulbs for the flower in the summertime that we

(01:27):
would plant in the spring season. That's what we're going
to talk about today. But before we get to that,
let me ask you a quick question. This is the
time of the year where I always get folks emailing
or calling and asking about how to care for my
daffodils and my tulips and all after they're finished flowing.
Because there's so many ways that folks deal with these afterwards.

(01:49):
It's crazy. How does Peggy and Montgomery deal with just
let's just take the daffodils, for instance, what's their finished flowering?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, that's a great question, Ron, And you know, if
you can get around to dead heading daffodils and tulips
after they've bloom, that's great. It just means they're going
to put more energy into recharging that bulb for you
for next year's show. If you don't get around to
doing it, they're probably still going to be okay, and

(02:18):
you know, if you have good garden soil, that's probably enough.
But I like to add a little bit of an
organic bulb fertilizer after the show again to help fortify
that bulb for next year.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
All right, So you'll feed them right right afterwards in
the you know, like Aspoma's a bulb tone something like
that would work.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, that would be perfect, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So the question then comes up, what about the foliage?
You know, you look out there and you see people
as soon as they're done, they cut them off, or
you see people out there that bring them up and
bend them over with rubber bands. You see some folks
that leave them alone and you know, until they start
to yellow, or give them about six or eight weeks
and then cut it off. What does Peggy Montgomery do?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
You know, it really is necessary to let that bulb
foliage dive back naturally, whichever way you want to do it,
if you want to just leave it alone or curl
it up or whatever, but that again is what is
going to nourish that ball for the next year. So
it's important to do that. So there are places where
you don't really want to look at dying bulb foliage

(03:21):
for a month or more. You know, like at your entrance,
you know the pots next to your door, just coming
up to your steps, and those are places where I
use things like tulips as annuals, and when they're done flowering,
I just remove them, bulb and all and get on
with my annual planting well.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
And I think that's a great idea. And I don't
argue with books because I always say there's more than
one way to garden and be successful. But I always
look at the braiding and bending them over the rubber bands.
One is a lot of work. Number two, which I
don't think is necessary. Number two is when you do that,
you cut down the amount of leaf surface that's doing photosynthesis,

(04:00):
that's putting energy back into the bulb. And then if
you bend it over and rubber bandit's like taking a
hose and crimping it off and things don't flow through.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So well, Ron, you are one hundred percent right. And folks,
I want you to listen to RON because there's a
lot of misinformation out there, especially on the Internet, and
when you're listening to RON, I want you to know
you're getting the real deal. The real info.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
That's because we learn from you.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So but again, if you can get if they can
get six weeks of green foliage or whatever, ye before
they start to yellow, whichever comes first, that's what we're
really looking for.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, that really is best. And so for for instance,
if you plant your bulb, say under deciduous trees and shrubs,
that bulb foliage can dive back and the new leaves
come on and spring and it helps to hide it.
So there's a few little things like that you can
do to help hide that that foliage. And also I

(05:02):
think that we just kind of need to alter our
perceptions a little bit and understand that nature has a
job to do.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, no doubt. And we're talking with Peggy Mtgomery. And again,
if you want a great website, go to a flowerball
dot eu. I always throw this out there as an option. Okay,
if you're insistent on you want to start planting around
them or whatever. You don't want to see that long,
floppy foliage, then just cut it in half, because then
you've still got half of the leaf there. It sticks up,

(05:29):
it still does the thing sending the energy back in
doesn't look quite as bad. Not as floppy. It looks
a little cleaner, but at least you're still leaving that
full leaf to do its thing, to feed that ball,
because that's the important part. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, I think that's the best compromise. I really do.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Talking with Peggy mctgomery always, and of course we learned
stumps and plotting. That was our word of the day
a couple of years ago. It has been ever since.
I always I think of you every time I see
that word. I see mass ball plantings. All right, let's
talk about and we talk about bulbs that we plant
in the fall that need that cold stratification to get
the flowers in the spring. But then there are bulbs

(06:10):
that we plant in the spring that flower in the summer.
As a matter of fact, my wife's and I swear
these do these earlier every year. Giant aliums are right
now in full bloom.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Amazing. I love alium. I don't think anybody should be
without it. They you know, they give so much structure
and architectural interest to a landscape. So buy some. You know,
you can buy alium that are four feet tall. You
can buy shorter ones. You can get them to bloom

(06:44):
in succession throughout the summer. Pollinators love them. If you
can stand to cut them, they're awesome cut flower and
you are just gonna They're just gonna enhance every bed
you do. You know, I call them see through plant.
So just go I hadn't plant to be in your
perennial border. They're going to be so tall they're going
to flower above it and not get in the way

(07:06):
of any other plant.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now, you know how to really mess up your neighbors
and the people that drive by, is to plant a
bunch of the tall alliens. Let them go all the
way through the process and let those flowers turn brown,
then come back out and spray paint them different colors
like orange and red and blue and purple.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have seen that. And you know what, I love
when people get playful in the garden, because that's what
it's all about.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That is what it's all about. Talk about Peggy and
Montgomery talking about those spring and summer blooming bulbs, getting
the website flowerball dot eu checking out. We're going to
take a quick break. We come back. We'll talk more
about summer flowering bulbs with Peggy and Montgomery here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (09:12):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're
talking spring and summer flowering bulbs with Peggy and Stinton
Plot and Montgomery. She is our bulb expert and talking
about how to take care of those springballs. Now we
talk about planting those summer babs. You know, you know
you've been doing this for a while. Have you noticed that.
I remember back many many many years ago, all the

(09:34):
summer bulbs we I think we used to sell in
the stores, and it seemed like that kind of went away.
But now they seem to be coming back again. Do
you feel that?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah? Absolutely, and it's trend. I love seeing it. Just
it seems like it almost like skipped a generation. You know, Ron,
I think people like us, you know, we learned from
our parents and our grandparents and maybe maybe it's skipped
a generation, but it is coming back just like like crazy.
You know. Even the young kids now are you know great,

(10:05):
you know, doing showing their daffodil or sorry, their dalias
and everything on Instagram it's a whole new world.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Speaking of dalias. That gets confusing with folks sometimes because
there are dalias that you plant the balls, and of
course you have to dig those up at the end
of the season and overwinter them. And that's probably one
of the reasons why they kind of went away, because
folks didn't want to do that. But we're seeing them
doing that more and more now. But there are daluas
that are not from bulbs as well.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's true. There's all kinds of breakthroughs and breeding
and some are coming from seed or tissue culture. In
other ways, you can buy them already blooming, and it's
okay to cheat and put those in just so you
can enjoy them. You know, not everybody has a great
big garden, and maybe they just have a balcony, or
maybe they can only garden a little bit anymore. So

(10:58):
still go ahead and do that, even if you have
to use them like annuals, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's okay to throw away.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
It is.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know, I don't think any of us gardeners really
love doing that, but you know, we do it with
annuals and not hanging basket and other things too. I
think we've always just thought it's Bob's as only perennial.
But you know, for folks that don't have a way
to keep them over or space for that or the time,
it's okay, Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
No doubt about it. Talking with Peggy A. Montgomery again,
the website is flowerball dot Eu. Let's talk about Gladiola's
because I think that's one ball that is pretty darn
easy to grow if you've got a good sunny location.
And I've always said that spot between the sidewalk and
the house where you can't get anything else to grow,
you're gonna get glads to grow there. But I think
that's one is for cut flowers. Of course, the show

(11:50):
is fantastic, but for cut flowers and ease of growing them,
Gladiola is to me or a piece of cake.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, are making a huge comeback round. We're really seeing
sales going up every year, so we know that people
are getting excited about it and planting glads. I'm with you.
I don't think it's a difficult bulb to grow at all,
And I also like to grow for cut flowers, and
I'll tell you what, there is nothing more extraordinary than

(12:21):
a big bouquet of three foot long stems in the house.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, yeah, of the glads. And I think the secret
there and I you know that make this thing work
for you is that by the glads that you're you're
interested in planting and do them on what would you
suggest like a two week staggering of the planting so
that you've got color throughout the entire summer.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, that's a great way to do it. Staggering or
planting in succession like that means more flowers, longer, and
so it might take a little bit extra work or
a little extra thought when you're planting them, but it's
totally worth it.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think glads too, that the cost on glads very
inexpensive for what you get out of that. And if
you don't want and again you can overwinter those and
bring them back out in the springtime and start them
all over again. But you know, if you don't, they're
not that expensive. It can be done as a one
shot deal, and you can do them in containers. You
can do them at like that spot between a sidewalk

(13:19):
in the house is a great place to do them,
or even out in the open, it doesn't matter. But again,
great color if you don't cut them but like Peggy
Ann said, you talk about a great something that's cut
taking the house in a voss is unbelievable. Check out
their website. You learn more as flower bulb dot eu.
We're talking about summer flowering bulbs with Peggy and mcgarmy.

(13:40):
You know another one and it's not a bulb. But
cannis are continuing to come on really strong now.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh and I love them. I don't think there's any
way you can get get you know, they grow so
fast to get that tropical, fun, vacation feel in the garden.
I grow tons of them.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And I got new respect out of for cannas, and
of course that's been around forever. New respect for cannas
about three or four years ago. For the first time
I started growing them in containers and you know, you
get that tropical look and there's so many great foliages
out there now, foliage colors and the striping on them,
and then of course of different colors. But you talk
about a plant that's really tough and durable in a hot,

(14:24):
dry summer, and you know, and you're not out there
watering as much as you should be. Those cannas really
did a nice job a whole new respect for cannas
and containers.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
They really do. And you know, if you dead had them,
they're going to keep blooming. Like you said, some of
the new foliage colors and patterns are out of this world.
Even when they aren't flowering, they look extraordinary. And actually
I'm trying out some of the smaller ones. There's some
like new dwarf varieties out there, yea. So I'm planting
a bunch of those this spring to see how it's

(14:57):
see how it'll look.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I as a matter of fact, we men with a
few of those last year and you know, not very tall,
probably eighteen twenty four inches, a little flower on the top,
and I thought they were outstanding. Although the bigger ones
are such a bold, spectacular show it's crazy. And you
know what we're starting to see now we're a Zone six.
Southern Ohio actually has picked up a little bit of

(15:18):
a Zone seven. We are finding that glad, some of
the glad varieties up closer to the house, good rain
at grit drainings where folks didn't take them out and
storre them away over the winter, actually coming back up
the following year.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, that's true. You know our zones really are changing,
and especially when you have, you know, an especially warm
micro climate, like you say, like up near the house
or on the south side, or you know where things
are protected from winter wind and cold.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Talking with Peggy and Montgomery, she is our bub expert.
We love always having you on the show. You're always
so much fun and you have great information. Again the
website flowerball dot eu. When we're talking about these summer
flowering bulbs that we would plant in the springtime and
that possibly harvest them in the fall and over winter,
when is the best time for feeding those? Would that
just be a spring feeding or are therese something you

(16:07):
would feed throughout the entire season?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
You know, the spring is great. If you are a
good garden with a great memory, you a little food
throughout the season sure doesn't hurt. I often forget. Don't
tell anybody with that, but I do. And they're just fine,
especially stuff like cannons. Then they don't need anything. And
if you're going to try to overwinter something for the
first time, let it be a canon because they are

(16:33):
so forgiving.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Uh yeah, just knock the dirt off up and put
them in a five gallon bucket, stick them in the basement.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It works every time. One last one. Garden lilies. I
love garden lilies, but you know what I don't like
about them. They don't last long enough.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, you know, I hear you on that, because I'm
a lily lover and I want them to bloom, you know,
eight months of the year. Yes, But I'll tell you what,
when you getch some of those bigger lilies they're calling
trees lilies, and they get a little bit of maturity
on them, you know mine, we'll have up to twenty
or more blooms on them, and they'll bloom in succession.
So I do get a pretty long show.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Do you go out after Easter and collect up all
the easter lilies that are on sale for seventy percent
off and playing them in your garden?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
No, I don't have time for that.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I figured you'd be scarf scarf and all those up. Hey.
Do you do you do any of these in containers?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Eastern lilies?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Any of them they spring summer flowering bulbs?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh gosh, yes, I do a ton, and we have
a lot of big containers. So I love canon lilies.
I'm doing spider lilies and containers. I do cal lilies
and containers, vernunculus and containers. What I love about that,
it's like this movable feast. When they start looking great,
I can bring them out into pride of place and

(17:54):
have them be spectacular. Of course, the cannon stay out
all the time, but like the spider lilies, like when
they going and the stems are coming up, bring them
out and people just love them. And when they get
to that after they blow him and the foliage is slopping,
I just bring him back over to near the greenhouse.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
And kind of let them go so people you don't
have to look at them, and let them do their
thing and feed that ball down below and then and
all ready to go for the following season. Again talking
with Peggy and Montgomery, and these these all can be
mixed in in combination planters. You know, whether it be
annuals and perennials, you can do all of these together.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Absolutely. Why not?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right there is the answer. As I'm gonna start answering everything,
why not, That's gonna be my answer for ever.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
There you go, Peggy play just have fun out there well, and.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'm sure that you do, and I know that your sidekick,
your better half does as well.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, he is awesome. And my husband Dan Benarsik, were
at Shanna Clair and he was out in Cincinnati and
looking all over the place for Ron Wilson and he
never found you. And I'm supposed to send you three guards.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh well, he didn't look hard enough. Then I would
have loved to have met him then that we could
have had some stories about you.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, I bet hey.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Always a pleasure having you on the show. And again
the website if you want to check it out, is
flower Bulb dot eu. Peggy and Montgomery. Always a pleasure,
have a great spring.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, take care Peggy and Montgomery. Again. The website
is flower Bulb dot e d eu. I always want
to say, e du eu. That's Buggy Joe Bald. Let's
the du check it out. Always great information there. But
summer flowering bulbs, the glads especially, I think are way
you know, people kind of bypass those. Really easy to do, uh,

(19:43):
And it's great, great for your cut flowers to bring
it inside, even if you just dig them up and
throw them away, and once you harvest it, piece of cake.
To grow those things and a wonderful return on investment.
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We come back.
Phone lines are going to be open for you at
eight hundred a two three eight two five five. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com planning

(20:04):
the week this week. Of course, I've got roses in
there for Derby day to day, and of course Sinko
Demaya as well. Rina's got her recipes up there for
mint julips and a whole lot more. As a matter
of fact, Asian Longhorn beetle, we'll updates on where we
stand with those in the United States. Right now. We're
doing a really good job getting those things knocked out,
and that's what's so important. All right, take a quick break,

(20:26):
we come back. More coming up in our next hour.
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. How is your
garden growing?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
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