THE Buggy Joe Boggs Report 11/8/2025

The final Buggy Joe Boggs report of the year.  

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. And as I promise, we have an
extended whoa easy now ext They're so exciting to hide.
They are so excited because we have an extended version
of the Buggy Joe Boggs Report, and so that it's

(00:27):
an extended version because as you know, every winner Joe
goes into a little winter hibernation, and this is going
to be Joe's last segment for twenty twenty five. But uh,
you know, we you know, he's got to take the
winner off and he comes back in the springtime. But
I'm going to slow down for a second because it
is Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor of Commercial Horticulture educator for

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the Ohio State University Extension, an Issue Department of Entomology.
He is the poster boy for the OSU Extension. I
used to call him the Hank Kimball of Hamilton County.
Hank Kimball of Hamilton County. He Coke created matha Mathra
coffee emporium where every couple of Buggy Joe is boldest
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(01:08):
by g Al dot shoot had either to you, ladies
and gentlemen. Mister common sense it called himself buggy Joe Boggs.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man, I'll tell you what an interest if kind of
had that interest before we just started eight every time right, all.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
The time, and before we even get started, I'm gonna
get the sappy stuff out of the way. Thank you
for everything you do. What thank you for all you do.
Thank you for all that issue Extension does. Every year
you have, you have blessed us with great information. You know,
it takes a lot. You dedicate yourself on Saturday mornings
to uh to doing this show, and we can't thank

(01:54):
you enough for doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I was telling them, I always love calling you ahead
of time because I never know what direction we're going.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
And even once I start, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Dan asked me before we this segment comes on. He says,
are you ready? Are you prepared? And say no, I'm
never prepared for this segment.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's a lot of fun. But we really is a
lot of funny.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
We've had a good time and I think you know,
and we always do them. We'll continue to have a
good time. But I said, you know, told Dan this morning,
I said, you know, Joe and Rita and I have
known each other, the three of us since the early nineties.
And I said, yeah, I've worked together off and on
through you know, doing sharing information on these shows. And
I said, it's a we get the trio here. We've

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been been together quite some time.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Pretty much. You know, you could almost say we're just
all hatched together, right. I mean, it really does feel
that way because you and I started and then Rita
was right there too, early in my century career, and
so so honestly, Rob, when I think about it, and
then I have been thinking about it a lot lately,
you know when every year, you know, when the winter

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comes in and and I take this little hiatus, a
little pupation, as we say in in the entomology circles,
you know, I always start thinking about a little bit,
get a little modeling, right, you know, because it's it.
It does mean a lot to me, and I know
it does to you too, that that we've been doing
this for so long and and really having a lot

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of fun with it. I mean, that's the I think
that is the biggest take home with this is that, Uh,
I've been asked this. I've been asked, well, do you
all get together beforehand and talk about and no, no,
we're not really sure where we're going to go with
a segment. And and so when we're laughing when we're
doing what we do, it's it's it's genuine because it's

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just like we're talking with each other on the front
porch and.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Two old men with overall is on.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
We're hitting that on, yes, and an errated line at
that right unert.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it's been regrassed.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's I don't know, regrassed, not like that.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's a new horticultural term thanks to Steve Hawkins. Regrassed.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah. So it is a lot of fun. But I'll
tell you we're gonna we're gonna continue to be modeling
right through all these extra segments that I'm enjoying and
I do want to cover. I do have one thing, uh,
and that is a summary of what we saw this
year through the eyes of the Beagle. How'd you like that?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
People? By the way, so folks understand this always you
extension has a group that gets together and then they
have all this information available for you. And it's called
the Beagle b Y g L. It's not a dog,
it's called beagle and it's the Buckeye yard and yard
landscaping was a b Y Buckeye yard line right landscape line. Yeah, anyway,

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And so it's by g L dot SU dot eu
and you can go there your yourself can go there.
You don't have to be a professional in the industry,
and you can get their their bulletins and you can
read all their past postings and learn a heck of
a lot of stuff. Uh, just going to that website.
So if you don't do that, if you haven't done that,
sign up, go there and check it out. B Y

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g L dot O, s U dot EEDU. And that's
what Joe and the whole team put together all this
information for you. And all the past postings are there,
all the current postings are there. When something you know
comes up and it's you know, Joe's same stub Joe
sends me and everybody else will show up there and
you'll get it as well. So you know, it's a
it's a great, great website to go to, great way

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to learn. Even this winter, you could go there and
just kind of scroll through and continue to learn things.
And they're all dated and in old nine yards and
you know, so when next year comes along, you kind
of knew what was going on last year at that time, so.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You know, I have mixed feelings about that because well,
well no I did. It just occurred to me as
now wait a second, people are going to find out,
you know, where I get all my information.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know, I won't.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I won't appear as smart. But speaking of smart, best Schicklhoff.
It's just with all issue, Extension in Putnam County came
up with a wonderful idea Ron And truthfully, I think
you've mentioned it before as well. I others have mentioned
doing something along these lines. So so we've added another
another posting, weekly posting and hopefully we can keep up

(06:46):
with it through the winter because we're trying out some
different technology. And when I say hopefully keep up with
it is because it may be once a week. Hopefully
it stays once a week. But I just have to
warn everybody, well, we're trying some different ways to do this,
and that is that every Tuesday morning we do have
a gathering of myself and my Extension colleagues and under

(07:10):
the heading of a team. It's called the Buckeye Environmental
Horticulture Team, and that means we just talk about horticulture things,
and on that on that zoom, I should a call
on that zoom. It started out as a phone call.
But on that zoom that's exactly what we do. We
talk about what we're seeing and then what we might
recommend people do about what we're seeing. You know, if

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we're seeing an insect problem or disease issues. Sometimes there
are no answers. We're just reporting that, you know, something
is occurring and and we don't know what is causing it.
We're looking into blah blah blah. But at the end
of that gathering, though, we're starting to put together a
summary and you may have seen it. It's a very

(07:52):
quick thing. It just has listed, you know, like one, two, three, four.
But these were the things that we discussed on that
zoo zoom, and that was I want to again give
credit to Best because she pointed out that, you know,
we discuss a lot of things, and we report a
lot of things that don't actually get into the Buckeye

(08:12):
yard and garden line that we don't actually write up
and alert and this this lets everyone know, Okay, what
are some of those things that are happening. So it's certainly,
in my opinion, in enriches you know what the big
old brings to people. And by the way, to the
technology I keep referring to is just simply it's difficult

(08:33):
to take notes when you're all gathered like that, as
you can imagine, because it's an open discussion and we
don't want somebody setting off into the corner, you know,
figurely speaking, you know, just taking notes describe. We want
everybody to be engaged. So we're trying out some technology
that takes notes for us to help. Yes, I know,

(08:56):
it's just it's kind of scary. Who knows what's going
to be produced. Yes, just go to the Bucking Garden.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I can't wait to you say I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, what said that?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I didn't say that? What what?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
What about Michigan? Though I did?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, I didn't say that either. All right, we got
to take a break and we come back. We've already
used up one of our three segments with Buggy Joe Box.
We come back. We will come a quick recap of
what we saw this year through the eyes of the Beagle,
and then in the final segment we're going to have
the Lightning round with Buggy Joe Boggs. Here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (12:02):
You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for part
two of three parts of the Buggy Joe Boggs Report
Joe Boggs Issue extension of course the website byglot is
you dot eu. Now let's do a little quick summary
of what we saw in twenty twenty five. Mister Joe Boggs.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I'll tell you, I think we have to lead
off at least in our region, maybe southern Ohio and
point South. That I mean, the big news this year.
And it's isn't it a funny help By the end
of the season, something is really big. He sort of
goes by the wayside. We kind of forget about it.
The emergence of brood fourteen of the seventeen year periodical cicadas.
This is a pretty big brood. And like I said,

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it didn't extend all the way up into the Columbus,
Ohio area, but it did go you know, through southern
Ohio and point South. And you know, we posted five
big old alerts about it everything from a new fact sheet.
And that's something else that was kind of big news
in my opinion this year is are the number of

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fact sheets that came out regarding different topics. And just
a little quick note. I was just teaching master gardeners
on Thursday and went through this, and it did occur
to me that it's a good idea maybe to separate.
If people go to the big ole online resource and
look at these different alerts, they do look like like

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miniature fact sheets. Because the fact sheet is just as
it says it's about. It's a you know, it's a
sheet that has facts in it. What do you think
of that? Wrong?

Speaker 4 (13:34):
That?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
No, that's exactly smart, man, I tell you it just
I had I've had a lot of coffee. That's what
does it. But it's a fact sheet is meant to
be something. It's a little more static. It's we produce them. Uh,
they cover specific topics and then they don't change their

(13:58):
you know, kind of like bedrock. Okay, the big alerts though,
those are intended to be what's happening today. For example,
from here on out, if we do post about about
periodical cicadas, we can reference back to this fact sheet
for some of the foundation information. So that's what that's
all about. But we did five postings on the emergency

(14:21):
of the periodical cicadas, including one pointing out that the
flagging from this year, and what do they mean by flagging.
It's where the females lay their eggs in the very
tiny twigs and stems, not large stems, but small stems
of a tree. The user of a positively split the
bark put the eggs in the air, and that can
cause that stem to die and then it turns brown

(14:44):
and it looks like somebody's you know, tied on. The
flagging used for you know, different purposes. The you know
you and I grew up with that idea, sometimes for surveying,
but any rate. So so that's going to be with
us next year. There will will be still flagging that
will appear because these these stems may take a while

(15:05):
to die and they continue to break for a while.
So that was big news. And then another kind of
pseudo big news was we have periodical cicadas that take
anywhere from thirteen to seventeen years to complete their development
from eggs to new adults. They emerge in huge numbers
that we call broods. But every year we have some

(15:26):
other cicadas. They're called annual cicadas. Now they take two
to three years to complete their development. However, there are
overlaps within the same species, so get we get an
emergence every year of some of the periodical or of
some of the annual cicadas. But the big news is
its primary nemesis is called the cicada killer wash, which

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is one of the largest wash that we have in Ohio.
It's not the largest, frankly, one of the largest wasps
we have in North America. So it's a big wasp.
And you and I talking about this over the last
four or five years, how they just didn't seem to be,
you know, out there in the numbers that were used to.

(16:11):
In this past season, I got a lot of emails
and pictures about cicada killer waffs. So the annual cicadas,
of course their primary food supply, were out there in
large numbers, but it looks like their nemesis is catching
up bagworms. I don't need to say more, do I? No,

(16:34):
you know that's another one that has that came and
went in the way of If you look over the
last few years bagworms, and now I'm gonna have to
do this fall web worm. Those are two native pests
that we used to just see with large numbers and
over the last few years, I'm sorry, caterpillar in there, well,

(16:58):
oh my goodness, yes, you got to Eastern ten and
we're talking about Eastern all three, Eastern tink caterpillar. Think
about this, Think cherries and think you know forks of
you know, branch forks. So in the spring, Eastern tank
caterpillar appears, produces these webs, pretty dense webs in branch forks,

(17:21):
primarily on cherries. Now they can appear on other trees,
but there's only one generation, and it's in the spring.
Fall web worm. You can find their nests, their silk
webbing all the way out on the ends of branches
where they'll pull together a lot of leaves and the
only feet on those leaves that are in that are
encased in webbing. There are two generations, so we see

(17:43):
them in the summer and then we see the second
generation in the fall. Dust the name fall webworm. Bagworms
are these little moth caterpillars that live in a little
like it looks. They really do look a lot like
a pine cone. I mean, I hate to do that,
but these little cone like sacks of silk that they

(18:04):
that they interweave in which they interweave pieces of their hosts. Right,
so they're in they're in the summer. There they go
from usually sometime in June up until the end of
August and early September or thereabouts. So those three native pasts.
In the past we've had big outbreaks. We've seen them,

(18:25):
you know, just kind of continue to rise a year
after year, it seemed. But over the last several years,
Eastern tent caterpillar, well they collapsed a few years ago,
and that's an enomological term we use. That's that means
the population just went down to where you hardly see
them now. They still, in my opinion, have not recovered

(18:47):
by any means. I didn't even get any hot spots
this year in Ohio where people say, oh, well, you're
running out of time. Another break, All right, well, gosh,
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
We're going to come back with a lightning round for
Buggy Joe Boggs and whatever else we can work in.
And then last segment here in the Garden with Ron Wilson,

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Speaker 1 (20:48):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part three of the Buggy Joe Boggs youport don't forget.
Their website is b y g L dot OSU dot edu.
Will you finished up with you at ten caterpillars fall
web worm You.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Know, yeah, I guess. Just the final point about that
is that all three, oh you know, overwinters eggs and
they all three then can have some low temperature thresholds.
That's particularly true for bagworms. So one thing that you
and I mean you and I have talked about this
several times. You know, way back when we had the

(21:26):
polar vortex moved down, temperatures fell so low that they
dropped below what the eggs for bagworms could survive in
the winter. And that's that caused a real, you know,
a real intense drop in the numbers of bagworms we
had the following year. So you know, these three native insects,

(21:48):
native moths, they are tied very closely, you know, to
what our winter might be like. And that's not always
true for all insects. It doesn't mean when we have
really cold temperatures that we're just going to have your insects.
Some are sensitive, some aren't. And so that's really the
as you can tell, I'm delaying as long as I
can before the lightning round because I know you are.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
This is where we learn the true buggy Joe Ball. Remember,
I'm going to give you two options here, Joe and.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You you're breaking up. I really can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You pick, you pick your favorite option?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
All right, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Gonna start out with an easy one. You don't have
to explain anything. Just pick your favorite option.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Bailey is the music.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wait a minute, here we go. You ready, Bailey's okay?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Al ready?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Or Buffalo trace cream.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh my gosh, well I have to go with Buffalo
trace cream.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's it. See, very very simple. Robber fly or spotted
lantern fly.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, now wait a second, what what what do I mean?
Is there not a prize?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I meant you just come on. Robber fly or spotted lanterns?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Fantastic robbert fly? Of course, my lantern flies not a fly.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
We just I don't want explanations. Do you like?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's okay? Robber flies Robert my.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Favorite glazed or chocolate covered.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Glaze. Did that surprise you?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, not at all? Likings or no stock.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Ah, that is Ohron, that's a killer, right, I have
to go with Nostock Commune.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I knew you would just slipped, just slipped on them
this year and staying in there. Great. Sorry, all right,
Kathy Ireland, Barbie Benton, Oh.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Gosh, okay, I guess Ireland, because I mean that that
goes back aways, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Only you? I'm just dating you there a little bit? Yeah,
bat landing on your head or falling into an orbit.
We were spider web.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh my goodness, both because you know I think I
thought both were happening when someone gave me a little
shoved forwards the web.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I will never ever forget that as long as I live,
and I still laugh to this day watching you backstep
to get away from Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You never knew that I could hit that high note.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, I did not you and Michael Jackson, all right,
you ready Squirrel's brain and gravy or gravy, hot saucy
gravy and biscuits.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh I gotta go hot sausage. I mean I know
that surprises you.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
That did surprise me.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, yes, I know.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yellow jacket sting or a bald faced hornet sting.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh that is terrible. That is a I mean, you know,
we want to say neither. I have to say. I'd
have to say bald faced hornet sting.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You'd rather have that than a yellow jacket?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well, no, it's just okay, there's one of those things
that it's such a fascinating thing that happened.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't want to hear that. That's not what I.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Know. I know.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, Uh, let's see here, Emerald Ashbour or Asian
longhorn beetle.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm gonna go with Asian longclaird beetle.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Interesting. I didn't guess that one guy or a boiler maker.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh well, goodness sakes, buck eye.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Just trying to get it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Some folks don't know. Well that's right, that's right. Well
my my father in law is a boiler maker.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And so yeah, that's that's pretty that's pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yes, Calver's burger king.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh gosh, Calvers, I'm sorry, I just I did that. Gee,
I did.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You just talked about this? Which is interesting? I have
this on my list. Cicadas or cicada killer wasps.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Both. I have to go with the wasps. Actually, they
are fascinating creatures.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Honey badger. Wolverine, Oh, honey badger.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean there's another such thing as a wolver I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Just telling you a lot of people know all about
buggy joe bugs insects or diseases.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Uh, entomology insects. Because you can't see disease causing organisms,
you have to just take their word for it.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay. Ant lions are leaf galls.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Oh oh you did it there, didn't you.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, we're getting serious.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah again, I mean this is oh man, that's like
picking between two kids, two of your own kids. Yeah, yeah,
I have to say, Okay, I'm gonna have to do it.
Galls are going to top everything.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I had it. I had it right, I knew you.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, all right, Maryanne or ginger.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Her He says Marianne, and everybody says, uh, leave the
leaves or clean up the leaves.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh, leave the leaves, except well wait wait, I just
I have to say, you didn't put this in there.
Leave the leaves, but use a mulching mower.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
There you go, got it, all right, you're ready? Here
we go. Ok Magic Carpet Ride, Born to Be.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Wild, Magic Carpet. Why right? And last, but not leave
you ready, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
The Ohio State University, University of Michigan.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh my gosh, what the last you? I mean, what
do you mean? University of the Ohio State University. I mean,
what can we say?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, you can say whatever you want, because that's the
last one.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, we're not talking about We're not talking about little colleges,
you know, kind of lesser, lesser institutions of lower education.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, I think the one that you really surprised me
on was a squirrel, braves and gravy versus hot sausage,
gravy and biscuits.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, I'll tell you it's it's because I've had some
fantastic sausage, gravy and biscuits in my time and recently,
I mean, because you know that kind of went away
for a while and didn't I mean back now, I
like it, but it's sort of it's oh yeah, So
I have to say with with just the diversity of

(28:38):
the different types of Oh man, I'm sorry, I'm getting
so hungry here. I'm just gonna you're just gonna hear
a click.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's right, because it's the end of the second buggy
Joe Boggs going into winter hiberdation. We appreciate it. There
we go to face out with a little magic. Thank
you so much.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh, thank you, thank you for all you do. Ron
seriously can't say enough.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And we will talk the magic carper right, and we
will talk to you in twenty twenty six. Have a
great winter. I appreciate it absolutely, Bud.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Do you take care? Go Buck?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
All right, go Bucks, quick break. We come back a
little home improvement from the man that met the legend,
maybe even out of clean our magic carpet. Gary Sullivan
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Glad.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I can't tell you that Wilson.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
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