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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website ats Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. And Uh, I'll
get Joe Strucker for that picture that's on there. Uh yep,
I'm gonna get him payback as heck Joe. What can
I say? It's time for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report.
That would be Joe Buggs assist a Professor, Commercial Order
(00:21):
Concer the Nears David Versus Extension Ocean Department at Toomology,
post a boy for Oshu Extension, co creator Mathra Coffee
and for him where every cup of Buggy Joe as
boldest King of Dora yet smooth as Mathra Silkie Wings website,
b yg L dot oas shoot dot Eedu, Ladies and gentlemen,
Mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Boggs, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I'm going I'm going through the Derby list And
I said, and I said, I'm gonna, Well, first of all,
my comment is this muddy track, what is it? Nineteen
or twenty horses? You might as well flip a coin.
You might as well just flip a coin and just whatever.
But I said to myself, if I was Joe Boggs
(01:11):
and I was looking at the names, which which three
horses would I pick? And I said, m sand Man,
I like Metallica, I'll probably look man, I'll probably take Sandman. Oh,
Cold Battle, West Virginia Coal Battle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
gotta take that. And you talk about a cool word, tantastic.
(01:32):
Oh what I like that word tantastic. So if I
was Joe Boggs, those would be my three picks, just
based on the name of the.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Horses, And that means that means it about half way
through the all three will be grazing in the.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Infield'll be stuck in the mud.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, they just you know, it starts and in any
parts I picked, they just they go a little bit
and you can just you just see the thinking. It's like,
wait a minute, I'm that crass looks greenier over on
the other side of that fence there. I'm gonna I'm
gonna sounder, I'm gonna wonder over it and get this
(02:12):
guy off my back. I gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You, was was even close on those.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, you nailed all three. In fact, I was
no I'm serious. No, tantastic. I love I love that
that that I mean, that's such a neat word. It
took me a bit to work that out. I hate
to say it, but I I was looking, what is that? No,
that's fantastic Sandman though, I got to say that was
(02:44):
because any horse I picked is gonna sandbag, right, I mean,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The Cold Battle, I mean that's West Virginia Cold Battle.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, they just comes right in there. But you know
there's another seeing running through here. You know, publisher and journalism.
What is going on there?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, everybody I know that's in the media business. It's
all betting on journalism.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, but you got to have a publisher.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, you got to have a publisher, that's true. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And they needed the Luxure Cafe to admire Daytona. I mean,
you know you got a whole story, couldn't you located
on just yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Just based on the names. All right, I'll give mine
up because I'm gonna get this out of the way
right off the bat. My long shot is Flying.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Mohawk, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Which would have been your wrestling name had you been
in the w W.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
E Is that exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Aircut, citizen citizen bull, it's the show. And I did
have Grande as the I actually did have Grande to
pick as a win. Got scratched yesterday. Uh so I'm
gonna have to go with a baby son. Ah yeahs
(04:05):
which was it was eligible, and of course with a
couple of horses got scratched. So now in the in there,
that's my that's a dark horse, that's my those are
my three.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, yes, I'm even looking. I'm just I'm just now
looking at I don't even see odds on basia even.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, at what he was eligible, he was a twelve
to one. Okay, I really don't look at that that much.
I look at the horse and the name and who's
riding him.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I do too, I do too, you know, and
and the owner trainer. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's it's we got bob bath.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, hey, there you go, Well, there you go.
I mean that's hard to that's hard to get to
bed again, stouldn't it? How do you like it? I know,
you know this. I'm not a gambling man.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean I don't have money to gamble away.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well that's that too, that's exactly right. But it's just
I mean, I never I just never had a desire
because of well, ay right, so I never knew when
to hold him. Well yeah, and and as my wife
will tell you, I do not have a poker face.
So and you know that, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You can one. Which, by the way, I was I
was talking with a an acquaintance of yours yesterday, gotten
to know over the years who met you at a
social gathering one time, and he really is crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What okay? Oh yeah, yep, that's been a long time.
It was, that has been a while. Gee whiz. Yeah, well,
let's get done to it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, this is good, this is good. No, it's just
you know, this is a very this has been a
very interesting spring. Some things are moving along like they should.
Other things just aren't happening. I mean, I'm waiting, I'm truely.
I made a drive over to what I considered to
(06:20):
be Cicadaville and nothing. I don't know what's going on?
Are you getting I'm I'm now asking people too, are.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Of those mud tunnels and all getting ready to go?
And then she emailed back sins, I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's interesting because the tent, the soil temperatures, it should
be there, so I don't know. It's kind of interesting.
Of course, every I went back and looked at my
past writings and things that every every brood always does
this to us. I mean, it's like, oh, it should
be happening, and then you wait, and then you wait,
(07:05):
and then it happens quickly. Although in twenty twenty one,
now we didn't get to last year. Of course, a
lot of listeners, you know, really got to experience the
huge two brewed mergent emergence or I couldn't say that
fast a couple of times, a thirteen year emergence and
(07:26):
a seventeen year emergence. So thirteen year was in the
Southern States and the and the seventeen year was in Illinois,
and you know, it was almost a perfect sort of
semi circle around Ohio, wasn't it. But everybody thought we
would have them last year. But talking to some folks
(07:47):
I know further south, they had the same situation in
terms of, well, they should be up, they should be
on the trees. But we're still waiting. And speaking of waiting,
I am doing with our one of our Ford entomologists,
doctor Caleb Perry, She's located up in Worstern, Ohio. She's
(08:08):
the lead author on a fact sheet that we're producing
on fall webworm, and it's and there's another there is
another odd ball insect and that How long has it
been since we've had a significant number of those bring it?
At least? And in fact, I think I think two
(08:33):
or three years ago you and I brought this up.
You reported I called you, Yeah, I forgot I see it,
and so yes, and I wrote it up, you know alert,
Oh yeah, we found on that. Oh my goodness. A
(08:55):
lot of people are showing up, you know and taking
pictures of it. No, I'm just joking, but it was
just a very it's been very odd. Although I say that,
but you know these uh these are native insects well
the periodical scale obviously, but fall web worm, uh, Eastern
tent caterpillar has been another one that's been very odd.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Any reports for that anymore, just.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Just nothing, even even places.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I was going to say, evens.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bagworms have been in the bag for a while. I mean,
I keep and you know that, and they've gone from
where we had year after year of pretty consistent reports.
And I recall you and I talking on the radio
about about bagworm. It just seemed like they were getting there,
like more and more. It's gonna happen next year to
(09:48):
eat our houses. Oh yeah, and then just boom. Well
there's a reason I think for the bagworm collapse, if
you will, and that is they do have a low
temperature threshold. They overwent eggs. And this is true of
not as many insects as people think. You know, you
and I get this all the time. Well it was
(10:08):
a mild winter where we're gonna have a lot of pass,
or it was a really cold winter, so we're not
going to have many pass And actually it is it
is a bit rare for either of those to substantially
suppress native pass and even some non natives, because they
(10:30):
you know, if we take a look at something like
eastern tent caterpillar, that that is a very wide range
fall web worm, everything from Canada all the way down
into the Deep South, and and so you know, they
they have evolved the ability to withstand quite a few
weather regimes and unless we have something truly unusual like
(10:52):
a polar vortex. And that's where I'm heading with all this,
and you're looking at the clock, and you better head there.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Quickly, Where do I jump in here?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Where do I go? Well, the polar vortex that we
had some years ago now truly took the pins out
from under a bagworm. The eggs do have, like I said,
a lower temperature threshold that they do not survive, and
so we had fairly high populations. It just seemed like
(11:24):
they were, you know, doing better and better and better.
Actually that's from my perspective, right well.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of buggy joe.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, that's it to where we just had nothing after
the polar vortex, and they still haven't recovered well, although
you and I keep seeing hotspots. Of course we're talking
way ahead of ourselves because you know, bagworm doesn't have
yet early Yeah, yeah, it's it's about a month off.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We're just looking at the past and we'll see. Anyways,
take a break, we'll sing the song where of all
the bugs gone, long time passing, Keep singing at a
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You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for Part
(13:36):
two with the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Mister Joe Buggs
the issue extension website bygl dot OSU dot edu. I
was collecting up some cartoons the other day, Joe, I
thought of you. I do a little newsletter thing for
the employees every week. And what has this bee sitting
in the chair and he's reading the eye chart and
(13:56):
the doctor says, a very good, mister Combs, you have
perfect twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty in that eye.
And I'll cover your other eye.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's good. That is really that's a very well. And
you know that's a perfect segue in because you know
where I'm heading. When you talk about.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Ibes, where are you headed? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, there's a name given for carpenter bees. And we've
actually talked about carpenter bees before, but man, they are
really becoming active.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's I probably have the heaviest population this year on
our patio that I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And so why would we call them ibes? Because they
fly right at eye level. Very often they'll just hover
right in front of your eyes. Of course, those are
the males, and that's very important when it comes to
two bees, that these aren't the only bees that that
(14:55):
the males are are all show and no stings, because
of course they don't have an overpositor. In the case
the carpenter bees, the females over winter, they overwinter inside
the you know, the burrows are ready to go and
and well both of them over winter and so then
in the spring we start getting you know, all of
(15:18):
this activity and it really cranks up quickly. One thing
I need to get out of the way, though, is
that if you take a look, I mean, there's a
great interest in pollinators these days, right, it's it's becoming
a just the maybe holy grail would be the word
for a lot of gardeners is to have pollinator gardens.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, take a look at what you might think are
bumble bees and see how often they are in fact
carpenter bees. I see carpenter bees all, you know, dominating
the scene. And the way you can tell a carpenter
bee from a bumblebee. And when I say bumba bee,
I'm talking about a lot of different species. The way
(16:04):
you can tell is you look at their abdomen. That's
you know, the back at half of the insect, and
carpenter bees do not have any hairs on the abdomen.
They're black and shiny and pretty easy to see. Now
we often say they're also very big. But you know
that there's a little variability there. You know that sometimes
you'll see a carpenter bee and think, well, I just
(16:25):
it didn't get quite the amount of pollen, maybe when
it was just a little larvae. You know, just yeah,
the pollens like that. So my point being is that
they're very important pollinators. But of course then they also
have this destructive nature of boring into in the wood.
And I was very careful in terms of I almost
(16:47):
said raw wood or untreated wood, but you know that's
not always true either. There's sometimes you'll have a painted wood.
We tend to recommend that you paint wood if you
have a carp be problem, but it has to be
the right kind of paint right sometimes and that's where
Gary Soliving comes in. We have to give him a
(17:08):
call every time. In fact, you're going to post his
phone number. Is that right for people to call get
a home number? After nine pm? I think that's what
you know, call after nine pm. The point being is
that you know, some stains, some paints, and paints in
general do a better job, but some just don't do
(17:30):
as good a job. They don't last as long. And
you know, some of some of the highest populations I've
seen have been on portrails that were stained, you know,
they and you think, well, you know, well that's just
the surface treatment, right, and if it's not the right
thing here, I'm talking like I know something that Gary
(17:50):
really should be the one talking about this. It's not
always something that dissuades them. But once they do target
a source for producing their tunnels, it's they don't go away,
do they know? They just continue? So what do we
do about it? Well, you know there's the I think
(18:11):
you've used the tennis racket approach, right, I let.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Them do their thing. But yes, I have done the
tennis racket.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I've done the tennis racket thing. I've done all this.
But I'm like you, we have some some fence rails
that well probably need to be replaced eventually, but you
know the fact is they're decaying anyway that may. You know,
it's like, okay, this they're out there weathering and and
so they're going to need to be replaced anyway. And
(18:40):
as they said, they're very they're very important pollinators. So
you know, let's not maybe get as carried away as
as what you know, we we might think we should
on something like that. But if you do, if you
are concerned about, you know, loss of structural integrity, then
there are some things that you and I've talked about
(19:01):
this before. One of my favorite was was, you know,
wait till the activity is gone, and unfortunately, you will
probably kill some of the larvae. Uh, and just inject
with something like a liquid nails product or something that
that that that fills in you know that gap. I
think Gary Gary recommended something else. You guys are talking
(19:23):
about something else before.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm always use liquid nail and it was put structure.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh in fact, I tested it. Now you and I
know this. Oh well, we'll talk about the test results
next week.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, yeah, we'll get it. We'll get Joe's test results
next week, whether or not he's positive or negative. And
by the way, lots of reports from folks working in
the yards of garden this week picking up tics.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh yes, lots of ticks out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
There right now. Yeah, so you might want to chat
about that next week.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Two. I think we should, all right, I think we should.
You have a great weekend, and uh, let's watch the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Races, got it? Thanks Joe, always a pleasure, Joe, Bob,
joeysh you extension? All right, quick break, not a quick break.
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Speaker 2 (20:29):
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website ats Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. And Uh, I'll
get Joe Strucker for that picture that's on there. Uh yep,
I'm gonna get him payback as heck Joe. What can
I say? It's time for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report.
That would be Joe Buggs assist a Professor, Commercial Order
(00:21):
Concer the Nears David Versus Extension Ocean Department at Toomology,
post a boy for Oshu Extension, co creator Mathra Coffee
and for him where every cup of Buggy Joe as
boldest King of Dora yet smooth as Mathra Silkie Wings website,
b yg L dot oas shoot dot Eedu, Ladies and gentlemen,
Mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Boggs, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I'm going I'm going through the Derby list And
I said, and I said, I'm gonna, Well, first of all,
my comment is this muddy track, what is it? Nineteen
or twenty horses? You might as well flip a coin.
You might as well just flip a coin and just whatever.
But I said to myself, if I was Joe Boggs
(01:11):
and I was looking at the names, which which three
horses would I pick? And I said, m sand Man,
I like Metallica, I'll probably look man, I'll probably take Sandman. Oh,
Cold Battle, West Virginia Coal Battle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
gotta take that. And you talk about a cool word, tantastic.
(01:32):
Oh what I like that word tantastic. So if I
was Joe Boggs, those would be my three picks, just
based on the name of the.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Horses, And that means that means it about half way
through the all three will be grazing in the.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Infield'll be stuck in the mud.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, they just you know, it starts and in any
parts I picked, they just they go a little bit
and you can just you just see the thinking. It's like,
wait a minute, I'm that crass looks greenier over on
the other side of that fence there. I'm gonna I'm
gonna sounder, I'm gonna wonder over it and get this
(02:12):
guy off my back. I gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You, was was even close on those.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, you nailed all three. In fact, I was
no I'm serious. No, tantastic. I love I love that
that that I mean, that's such a neat word. It
took me a bit to work that out. I hate
to say it, but I I was looking, what is that? No,
that's fantastic Sandman though, I got to say that was
(02:44):
because any horse I picked is gonna sandbag, right, I mean,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The Cold Battle, I mean that's West Virginia Cold Battle.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, they just comes right in there. But you know
there's another seeing running through here. You know, publisher and journalism.
What is going on there?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, everybody I know that's in the media business. It's
all betting on journalism.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, but you got to have a publisher.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, you got to have a publisher, that's true. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And they needed the Luxure Cafe to admire Daytona. I mean,
you know you got a whole story, couldn't you located
on just yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Just based on the names. All right, I'll give mine
up because I'm gonna get this out of the way
right off the bat. My long shot is Flying.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Mohawk, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Which would have been your wrestling name had you been
in the w W.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
E Is that exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Aircut, citizen citizen bull, it's the show. And I did
have Grande as the I actually did have Grande to
pick as a win. Got scratched yesterday. Uh so I'm
gonna have to go with a baby son. Ah yeahs
(04:05):
which was it was eligible, and of course with a
couple of horses got scratched. So now in the in there,
that's my that's a dark horse, that's my those are
my three.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, yes, I'm even looking. I'm just I'm just now
looking at I don't even see odds on basia even.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, at what he was eligible, he was a twelve
to one. Okay, I really don't look at that that much.
I look at the horse and the name and who's
riding him.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I do too, I do too, you know, and
and the owner trainer. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's it's we got bob bath.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, hey, there you go, Well, there you go.
I mean that's hard to that's hard to get to
bed again, stouldn't it? How do you like it? I know,
you know this. I'm not a gambling man.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean I don't have money to gamble away.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well that's that too, that's exactly right. But it's just
I mean, I never I just never had a desire
because of well, ay right, so I never knew when
to hold him. Well yeah, and and as my wife
will tell you, I do not have a poker face.
So and you know that, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You can one. Which, by the way, I was I
was talking with a an acquaintance of yours yesterday, gotten
to know over the years who met you at a
social gathering one time, and he really is crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What okay? Oh yeah, yep, that's been a long time.
It was, that has been a while. Gee whiz. Yeah, well,
let's get done to it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, this is good, this is good. No, it's just
you know, this is a very this has been a
very interesting spring. Some things are moving along like they should.
Other things just aren't happening. I mean, I'm waiting, I'm truely.
I made a drive over to what I considered to
(06:20):
be Cicadaville and nothing. I don't know what's going on?
Are you getting I'm I'm now asking people too, are.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Of those mud tunnels and all getting ready to go?
And then she emailed back sins, I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's interesting because the tent, the soil temperatures, it should
be there, so I don't know. It's kind of interesting.
Of course, every I went back and looked at my
past writings and things that every every brood always does
this to us. I mean, it's like, oh, it should
be happening, and then you wait, and then you wait,
(07:05):
and then it happens quickly. Although in twenty twenty one,
now we didn't get to last year. Of course, a
lot of listeners, you know, really got to experience the
huge two brewed mergent emergence or I couldn't say that
fast a couple of times, a thirteen year emergence and
(07:26):
a seventeen year emergence. So thirteen year was in the
Southern States and the and the seventeen year was in Illinois,
and you know, it was almost a perfect sort of
semi circle around Ohio, wasn't it. But everybody thought we
would have them last year. But talking to some folks
(07:47):
I know further south, they had the same situation in
terms of, well, they should be up, they should be
on the trees. But we're still waiting. And speaking of waiting,
I am doing with our one of our Ford entomologists,
doctor Caleb Perry, She's located up in Worstern, Ohio. She's
(08:08):
the lead author on a fact sheet that we're producing
on fall webworm, and it's and there's another there is
another odd ball insect and that How long has it
been since we've had a significant number of those bring it?
At least? And in fact, I think I think two
(08:33):
or three years ago you and I brought this up.
You reported I called you, Yeah, I forgot I see it,
and so yes, and I wrote it up, you know alert,
Oh yeah, we found on that. Oh my goodness. A
(08:55):
lot of people are showing up, you know and taking
pictures of it. No, I'm just joking, but it was
just a very it's been very odd. Although I say that,
but you know these uh these are native insects well
the periodical scale obviously, but fall web worm, uh, Eastern
tent caterpillar has been another one that's been very odd.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Any reports for that anymore, just.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Just nothing, even even places.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I was going to say, evens.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bagworms have been in the bag for a while. I mean,
I keep and you know that, and they've gone from
where we had year after year of pretty consistent reports.
And I recall you and I talking on the radio
about about bagworm. It just seemed like they were getting there,
like more and more. It's gonna happen next year to
(09:48):
eat our houses. Oh yeah, and then just boom. Well
there's a reason I think for the bagworm collapse, if
you will, and that is they do have a low
temperature threshold. They overwent eggs. And this is true of
not as many insects as people think. You know, you
and I get this all the time. Well it was
(10:08):
a mild winter where we're gonna have a lot of pass,
or it was a really cold winter, so we're not
going to have many pass And actually it is it
is a bit rare for either of those to substantially
suppress native pass and even some non natives, because they
(10:30):
you know, if we take a look at something like
eastern tent caterpillar, that that is a very wide range
fall web worm, everything from Canada all the way down
into the Deep South, and and so you know, they
they have evolved the ability to withstand quite a few
weather regimes and unless we have something truly unusual like
(10:52):
a polar vortex. And that's where I'm heading with all this,
and you're looking at the clock, and you better head there.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Quickly, Where do I jump in here?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Where do I go? Well, the polar vortex that we
had some years ago now truly took the pins out
from under a bagworm. The eggs do have, like I said,
a lower temperature threshold that they do not survive, and
so we had fairly high populations. It just seemed like
(11:24):
they were, you know, doing better and better and better.
Actually that's from my perspective, right well.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of buggy joe.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, that's it to where we just had nothing after
the polar vortex, and they still haven't recovered well, although
you and I keep seeing hotspots. Of course we're talking
way ahead of ourselves because you know, bagworm doesn't have
yet early Yeah, yeah, it's it's about a month off.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We're just looking at the past and we'll see. Anyways,
take a break, we'll sing the song where of all
the bugs gone, long time passing, Keep singing at a
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(13:36):
two with the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Mister Joe Buggs
the issue extension website bygl dot OSU dot edu. I
was collecting up some cartoons the other day, Joe, I
thought of you. I do a little newsletter thing for
the employees every week. And what has this bee sitting
in the chair and he's reading the eye chart and
(13:56):
the doctor says, a very good, mister Combs, you have
perfect twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty in that eye.
And I'll cover your other eye.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's good. That is really that's a very well. And
you know that's a perfect segue in because you know
where I'm heading. When you talk about.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Ibes, where are you headed? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, there's a name given for carpenter bees. And we've
actually talked about carpenter bees before, but man, they are
really becoming active.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's I probably have the heaviest population this year on
our patio that I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And so why would we call them ibes? Because they
fly right at eye level. Very often they'll just hover
right in front of your eyes. Of course, those are
the males, and that's very important when it comes to
two bees, that these aren't the only bees that that
(14:55):
the males are are all show and no stings, because
of course they don't have an overpositor. In the case
the carpenter bees, the females over winter, they overwinter inside
the you know, the burrows are ready to go and
and well both of them over winter and so then
in the spring we start getting you know, all of
(15:18):
this activity and it really cranks up quickly. One thing
I need to get out of the way, though, is
that if you take a look, I mean, there's a
great interest in pollinators these days, right, it's it's becoming
a just the maybe holy grail would be the word
for a lot of gardeners is to have pollinator gardens.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, take a look at what you might think are
bumble bees and see how often they are in fact
carpenter bees. I see carpenter bees all, you know, dominating
the scene. And the way you can tell a carpenter
bee from a bumblebee. And when I say bumba bee,
I'm talking about a lot of different species. The way
(16:04):
you can tell is you look at their abdomen. That's
you know, the back at half of the insect, and
carpenter bees do not have any hairs on the abdomen.
They're black and shiny and pretty easy to see. Now
we often say they're also very big. But you know
that there's a little variability there. You know that sometimes
you'll see a carpenter bee and think, well, I just
(16:25):
it didn't get quite the amount of pollen, maybe when
it was just a little larvae. You know, just yeah,
the pollens like that. So my point being is that
they're very important pollinators. But of course then they also
have this destructive nature of boring into in the wood.
And I was very careful in terms of I almost
(16:47):
said raw wood or untreated wood, but you know that's
not always true either. There's sometimes you'll have a painted wood.
We tend to recommend that you paint wood if you
have a carp be problem, but it has to be
the right kind of paint right sometimes and that's where
Gary Soliving comes in. We have to give him a
(17:08):
call every time. In fact, you're going to post his
phone number. Is that right for people to call get
a home number? After nine pm? I think that's what
you know, call after nine pm. The point being is
that you know, some stains, some paints, and paints in
general do a better job, but some just don't do
(17:30):
as good a job. They don't last as long. And
you know, some of some of the highest populations I've
seen have been on portrails that were stained, you know,
they and you think, well, you know, well that's just
the surface treatment, right, and if it's not the right
thing here, I'm talking like I know something that Gary
(17:50):
really should be the one talking about this. It's not
always something that dissuades them. But once they do target
a source for producing their tunnels, it's they don't go away,
do they know? They just continue? So what do we
do about it? Well, you know there's the I think
(18:11):
you've used the tennis racket approach, right, I let.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Them do their thing. But yes, I have done the
tennis racket.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I've done the tennis racket thing. I've done all this.
But I'm like you, we have some some fence rails
that well probably need to be replaced eventually, but you
know the fact is they're decaying anyway that may. You know,
it's like, okay, this they're out there weathering and and
so they're going to need to be replaced anyway. And
(18:40):
as they said, they're very they're very important pollinators. So
you know, let's not maybe get as carried away as
as what you know, we we might think we should
on something like that. But if you do, if you
are concerned about, you know, loss of structural integrity, then
there are some things that you and I've talked about
(19:01):
this before. One of my favorite was was, you know,
wait till the activity is gone, and unfortunately, you will
probably kill some of the larvae. Uh, and just inject
with something like a liquid nails product or something that
that that that fills in you know that gap. I
think Gary Gary recommended something else. You guys are talking
(19:23):
about something else before.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm always use liquid nail and it was put structure.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh in fact, I tested it. Now you and I
know this. Oh well, we'll talk about the test results
next week.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, yeah, we'll get it. We'll get Joe's test results
next week, whether or not he's positive or negative. And
by the way, lots of reports from folks working in
the yards of garden this week picking up tics.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh yes, lots of ticks out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
There right now. Yeah, so you might want to chat
about that next week.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Two. I think we should, all right, I think we should.
You have a great weekend, and uh, let's watch the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Races, got it? Thanks Joe, always a pleasure, Joe, Bob,
joeysh you extension? All right, quick break, not a quick break.
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Speaker 2 (20:29):
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