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the talk Station. Welcome back here in the garden with
(01:31):
Ron Wilson in his time for the Bucky Joe Boggs Apartment.
Mister Joe Boggs, this is a professor, commercial order coach,
educator from the Ohau State University Extension No Issue Department
of Entomology, poster boy for OSU Extension. Their website byg
L dot OSU dot EEDU Ladies and gentlemen, trying to
get it all back together again, mister common sensical himself
(01:52):
Buggy Joe Boggs. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You're right trying to get it back together again.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Whoo, so how are you feeling well?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm still I still feel like I'm talking in the barrel.
You know, you know how that that ringing in your
ear and all that stuff. But yeah, I'll tell you
it's just it's been. Uh, it's been. It's been interesting.
But uh but as a faith aldering through, right, you know,
we're still trying to get things out there. Of course,
I've let a few things slide because we were I
(02:24):
was going to post the biggest, one of the biggest
splashes in the spring, what would that be actually early summer.
I always do that. So we often think of this
insect in the spring, you know, and we also think
of it as kind of in the fall before it
goes in the bag. I don't know if you know
what I'm talking about, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The boy I'm just drawing a blank Joe drawing a bike.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, yeah, I just don't have this one in the bag.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Do you just uh something about bags?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Bag bag?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Don't pat me for a charade? Partner bags hanging patching
out early June?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, boys, Yes, did he actually find some on it?
I did, Yes, oddly enough. Okay, So so I had
emailed you, you know, I was going to have to
I was going to go get some professional help, you know,
that's what people tell us to do all the time.
And I finally decided.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I am too, to tell you truth, I have some
hope of hanging in there. So any rate, so I
was was was at the doctor's off the parking lot
and didn't have my camera with me. Now, now when
is that ever? I mean, you know that I'm under
the weather when that happens, Oh, I'll tell you. I Well,
(03:43):
I had my cell phone. But these the bag weren't
the first in Star. So that's anytime we say first
in Star, you know this. But some of the listeners
may may want to know what does he mean first
in Star. Well, that's when a caterpillar like a moth
or butterfly first hatches out of the egg. We call
that the first in Star. And then as they get bigger,
(04:05):
they have to shed their skins. Those caterpillars, even though
it looks like they kind of have a soft skin,
it turns out that's their exo skeleton and it only
allows them to grow so large. So each time that
they want to get bigger, they have to have to
shed their skin, just like snake shedding their skin. One
of your favorite animals I cited there.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Right now, Yes, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
So these are so tiny run. I know my cell phone,
I may have gotten a little blurry, but not to
the standards of the bigel and I had to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't know. I'll tell you what some of these
new cell phones.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Man, Well it is true, it is true. And now
here's you know, I'm more all subject a bit. But
this brings up a good point because you and I
we do get pictures, and frankly, I know we both
appreciate them compared to back in the day when people
are trying to describe things and oh gosh, theation. But
(05:06):
but if a person is using a cell phone. So
let's say if I did try to use my cell
phone to take a decent picture, you know, which, now
I think about it, I may have been able to.
But what we typically do when we do we think
we're trying to get a close up, is we, you know,
pull bring the camera in and then we use our
(05:27):
fingers to to make the whole screen close up. You
know how you said your fingers and yeah, well, actually
when you do that, you are reducing the number of
pixels in that picture. So you have to kind of
think about it this way. That zoom, which is good
for like you know, if you want to zoom in
(05:49):
on a mountaintop or something like that works. But when
you look at that picture, we look at what's in
the phone's view. Those are all the pixels that you're
going to half. And then when you use your fingers
to zoom in, what have you just done? You've just
you're just cut in half or one third or one
fourth or even more the number. I think I went
(06:11):
the wrong way there. You can't do fractions when I
have a sinus fell any rate, so that just makes
the image more blurry. The thing to do, though, is
most cell phones have this and and it's a good feature.
If you go into the settings on your cell phone
(06:31):
or on on your camera, you can you'll find something
that says Macro. And that's exactly when I take a
close up with my camera, my you know, I will
put on a Macro lens. And so if you're shooting
Macro up close, you're getting all the pixels. And I'll
(06:52):
tell you ron it can make night and day difference.
I did a little training on this and all this
last during one of the walkabouts, and it is amazing
how just that little bit right there you can take
a shot of let's say a caterpillar. Do it our
old fashioned way, you know, zooming in on it. But
(07:14):
then we're cutting down on a number of pixels and so,
and then you use a macro. It's like I said,
they are there night and day, and you're absolutely right.
Some of these actually not even new cell phones. I mean,
for a while now, the cameras have been really getting good.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah. Nina Bagman, who is a queen bee breeder in Columbus,
will send me pictures of some of her queen bees
or some of the bees that came back into her hives,
and I can count the pollen on the legs of
the I mean, it's like, you got to be kidding me,
And she said, no, it's my cell phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wow. Anyway, now that now we've given a tutorial on
photographing insects, well you do appreciate that. By the way,
so you found some bagworms that were doing their thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All right, Well, I've told you the story and you've
had it happen to the reason for this, I got
to go back to the you know, remember I'm kind
of halfway sick now, see sort of you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's right to give me.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, I'm on medication. But you know, if you back
to the reason for taking decent pictures when you want
to diagnosis of something or you want an identification. I
I lost this picture. I had it years ago, or
somebody sent me a picture. I think I've told you
(08:33):
this before. You know, what is this caterpillar? And I'm
looking at it and it was like, is that a
caterpillar or someone's finger? It was that blurred. I couldn't
I couldn't tell. And so again, you know, that's why
that if you're sending if you're going to send yard
boy boy a picture, make sure it is a rim brand.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, because if he can't identify it, it goes to
Buggy Joe, and we want to make sure it's a
nice and cure for bug Joe as well. By the way,
Steve show me a really clear picture the other night
of a saw fly, and I showed him how to
tele difference between a caterpillar and a softly No, no,
I didn't we learned that from you.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh well, well you could learn it. I could learn
it back.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, you know, I was.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I was agreeing because how many times now, at our
at our age, at our mature age, Yeah, how many
times at our mature age. Have you have you learned
something and you so excited it's like, wow, I didn't
know that, and then you realize, you know, maybe a
day or so later or so, oh my gosh, I
(09:45):
I knew that ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, a long time. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes, I just relearned it as a brand news thing.
So yeah, that was button Boush sawfly And that was
another big These alerts.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Are gonna He said, you were all fired up. He
showed me that and he was like, oh my god,
Joe was all fired up. He said he was sick
and down for the cow and had poults all wrapped
around his head and he said he came out anyway
and what was that possum something or other lard and
something else anyway, Yeah, yeah, wrapped around his head. But okay, sorry,
(10:30):
but that was that's a good looking sawtfly, by the way.
So I'm excited that you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Actually, yeah, yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I was dragging around out there at bowl your farm,
but yes it was. So here's the deal, which I
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I like, wait wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
a minute, back up, back up for a second. So
what you're telling us is that bagworms in our area
had started to hatch.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know, we're all over the place, are you. I mean,
I tell you this is this is just kind of fun.
You know, Yes, bagworms are underway now. That certainly means
further south where people commonly call them evergreen bagworms because
you know, we find them on so many evergreens, and
that's true, but of course we always remind people that,
(11:20):
well that may be true, but they can feed on
over one hundred and thirty over one hundred and thirty
different species, maybe more. And last year, for example, my
only bagworm alert, aside from letting people know that they
had hatched like this one will be was a sweet
gum that was just almost sweet gums columbnar sweet gums,
(11:43):
which I like those trees, but boy, they were just
getting hammered by bagworms. So we have to be mindful
to be looking at your deciduous trees and shrubs as well.
But this they're very hard to see right now. They're
probably only going to be you know, maybe a quarter
inch if that much, definitely under a half inch, and
(12:06):
the bags are going to be made out of their excrement.
Now that sounds kind of bad. But we call insect
excrement frass. And it looks like kind of ready sawdust.
And at this time of the year, at first, well
not this time of the year, the first inst are caterpillars.
They tend to hold the bags straight up in the air.
(12:27):
They don't let them, you know, let gravity take over
where the bags are hanging down, and so very often
they look like little dunce caps. But I have to
tell you on you do have to look closely. And
actually backing up as to how I found the infestation yesterday,
was I just lanced over.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And wait, wait, wait, we're gonna have to leave it hanging.
They have to take a break. Oh no, and we'll
find out. We'll find out how did Joe find the
bag worm? And by the way, frass is actually a
aviation for it comes from there. No, just kidding, all right,
quick break, we come back, buggy Joe Boggs here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back, You're in the Arden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggs. I s
I Report, that would be sinus infection report, talking about
(14:08):
how he found the the bagworms and his Dennis Parking lot.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, so it wasn't a dentist. Did you say.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dentists or I said dentist doctors?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, doctor, I thought I forgot No, I tell you,
I mean they'd have to really drill up in here
to get to the sinus, right, that's why so much pain.
But yeah, that's right it. I was looking at the
I just having a glance over and saw some some
bags from last year. I mean, I was going to
(14:42):
say old bags, but then you know we might no no, no, yeah, no, yeah,
fall some bags from last year, and uh, and you
know that's that's that's a good way to detect them.
Because bagworms when they're finished, when the they're they're moth caterpillars.
So when everything is done at the end of the year,
and I should have said this, there's only one generation.
(15:04):
When everything's finished at the end of the year, what's
left in the bag would be if it's a female,
she's dead. She never becomes a moth or doesn't become
something that looks like a moth. At the end of
the season, her body fills up with eggs and that's
where they're at until those eggs hatch in the spring.
(15:25):
So the bags can hang around, literally for quite some time.
They don't just disappear, even the male bags, because the
males do become something of a moth. They can't fly,
they don't look so much like a moth, but they
can fly at any rate. That's a good way to
find an infestation because bagworms tend to start very very slow.
(15:47):
I mean, the populations may eventually become high, but they
tend to start out very slow for the first year
or two. And part of the reason for that is
when these eggs hatch. There's two options for the caterpillars.
One is that they can stay on the host that
their mother fed on the previous year, or they could
(16:10):
spin up a little bit of silk and remain attached
to that silk and when the wind picks up the silk,
it takes both milk and the caterpillars. Yes, that's balloon
that's that's where they're They're they're at igniting the gap.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
There's an never green over there, land over there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh yeah, no, no, you can anyway, So so they
that is called ballooning. And since and listeners may have
picked up on this, the female they said never leave
the bag, so they you know, the female mobs never
fly somewhere. So again, how do they move around? Well,
(16:48):
they can crawl a little bit. You see them along
the highway, you know, a little TARSI out said, you know,
you hit your eye, you know a little bit of
food from your anyway, I'm sorry, but but this is
the primary way that they move, which means they can
move quite a distance. So typically what happens, let's say
you have I'm going to use juniper or arborvity because
(17:12):
you know, that's what we see them on a lot.
Let's say you have a row of arbravity and you
know they look fine, and then you know this season,
you go out and look and there's this a little
patch of what's going on in there, a little patch
of brown or maybe you don't see that, and there's
just a few bagrooms that blew in. Well, each female
is capable of laying up to fifteen hundred eggs. So
(17:36):
now when you get the original arrivs on the balloons
ballooning in, and you can imagine, it doesn't take long
until that little tiny infestation becomes a big infestation. So
that's why it's very important to just keep monitoring and
keep looking because you and I get this all the time.
And as a matter of fact, it's even happened to
(17:58):
me with my own juniors where a person, you know,
walks past the plants, maybe daily, and all of a sudden,
oh my gosh, I've got a brown area is turning brown,
and what are these things hanging here? As if they
just showed up right. Yes, the bagworms they use their
host material like juniper, or like arbor wide or like
(18:23):
an oak leaf, and they weave that material into silk
to create something like a silk sock, and that's what
that's where the caterpillar lives. So they're camouflaged. And I
actually I do not fault people for not seeing them
until they cause damage, because sometimes they're very hard to see. Yeah,
(18:43):
but if you're looking, if you see bagworms from last
year and nothing was done, it's only to chance someone sprayed.
For example, at the doctor's office, somebody could have sprayed
those and that does happen. I go up and I'm
you know, there's nothing there, But in this case, apparently
no one did. So there you go. It's able to
at least see that they have hatched or all.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You go up there and see a big hole in
the bottom of it and nothing's.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's true and nothing's there, And what could have happened there?
What could have happened, Well, you mean a big hole
in the bag like.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A predator likes. Maybe there's a predator that comes up
and feeds on those.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You know, I tell you that is fantastic. Ron This
is I mean, you're going to have to extend the
show because I can say we're weird. We're going to
go in for a couple of hours. I'm feeling better,
you know. The aspirins kicking in. But if you if
you might see big openings torn in bags because bold
(19:44):
faced hornets, yellow jackets, paper wasps, they're meat eaters and
they will come in. And I've seen this, I have pictures,
you've heard me teach about it. Where you know, bald
face horns just decimated a bag where manifestation in a
Christmas tree plantation I was visiting. Also, you might see
a hole that was from a parasitoid, a wasp that
(20:07):
made a living on the bagworm as what some people
call parasite. But a parasitoid is like a predator that
lives inside its hosts, so kind of each from the
inside out. And here's maybe the final note about bagworms.
First of all, if you do find that you know
these early in stars, these little tiny bags, hold off
(20:27):
doing anything for a while because they hatch over time.
They all don't hatch at once, So just hold off
a little bit until they get a little bigger, and
then you're more likely to get.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
All of them if you're planning to spray. But if
you don't want to spray, plant a lot more flowers,
because those paracetoid walks rely on nectar to make a
living and there's a good research to show low bagworm
numbers in landscapes with a lot of flowers.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Now time for you to go and have round two
of those steroids.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Thanks, Thanks Joe for hanging in there. I hope you
feel better all right, take care. Thanks to our callers,
Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course to Joe Strucker filling
in for Danny today was a little bit under the weather.
Thank you Joe for coming in on the last minute call.
We really appreciate it. Thank you for all you do,
because without Joe, this show wouldn't go. Now, do yourself
a favor. Get out there, keep planting those trees, keep
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planting those native plants and native selections. Pamper your worms,
keep the kids and dogs involved with gardening, and by
all means making the best weekend of your life. See you.
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Southeast is bracing for severe weather today. Powerful storms rolled
across Oklahoma overnight, knocking down trees and pounding the western
part of the state with quarter sized hail. Two tornadoes
were also confirmed. Severe weather is likely today from eastern
Oklahoma to northern Georgia, where residents are being warned of
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wind damage, lightning, and possible flash flooding. Sunday, the Southern
Plains will be bracing four destructive winds, large hail, and
flash flooding, mostly along the Red River. Isolated tornadoes will
also be possible from Lubbock to Oklahoma City. A Maryland
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to the United States to face criminal charges. US Attorney
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to double overtime to win Game two of the Stanley
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Don't miss Clay and Buck. Monday at twelve oh six
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Here is your ninth first yardning forecast. Today cloudy, scattered rain,
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four nine fifty five hundred. You're at fifty five KRC
the talk Station. Welcome back here in the garden with
(01:31):
Ron Wilson in his time for the Bucky Joe Boggs Apartment.
Mister Joe Boggs, this is a professor, commercial order coach,
educator from the Ohau State University Extension No Issue Department
of Entomology, poster boy for OSU Extension. Their website byg
L dot OSU dot EEDU Ladies and gentlemen, trying to
get it all back together again, mister common sensical himself
(01:52):
Buggy Joe Boggs. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You're right trying to get it back together again.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Whoo, so how are you feeling well?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm still I still feel like I'm talking in the barrel.
You know, you know how that that ringing in your
ear and all that stuff. But yeah, I'll tell you
it's just it's been. Uh, it's been. It's been interesting.
But uh but as a faith aldering through, right, you know,
we're still trying to get things out there. Of course,
I've let a few things slide because we were I
(02:24):
was going to post the biggest, one of the biggest
splashes in the spring, what would that be actually early summer.
I always do that. So we often think of this
insect in the spring, you know, and we also think
of it as kind of in the fall before it
goes in the bag. I don't know if you know
what I'm talking about, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The boy I'm just drawing a blank Joe drawing a bike.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, yeah, I just don't have this one in the bag.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Do you just uh something about bags?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Bag bag?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Don't pat me for a charade? Partner bags hanging patching
out early June?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, boys, Yes, did he actually find some on it?
I did, Yes, oddly enough. Okay, So so I had
emailed you, you know, I was going to have to
I was going to go get some professional help, you know,
that's what people tell us to do all the time.
And I finally decided.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I am too, to tell you truth, I have some
hope of hanging in there. So any rate, so I
was was was at the doctor's off the parking lot
and didn't have my camera with me. Now, now when
is that ever? I mean, you know that I'm under
the weather when that happens, Oh, I'll tell you. I Well,
(03:43):
I had my cell phone. But these the bag weren't
the first in Star. So that's anytime we say first
in Star, you know this. But some of the listeners
may may want to know what does he mean first
in Star. Well, that's when a caterpillar like a moth
or butterfly first hatches out of the egg. We call
that the first in Star. And then as they get bigger,
(04:05):
they have to shed their skins. Those caterpillars, even though
it looks like they kind of have a soft skin,
it turns out that's their exo skeleton and it only
allows them to grow so large. So each time that
they want to get bigger, they have to have to
shed their skin, just like snake shedding their skin. One
of your favorite animals I cited there.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Right now, Yes, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
So these are so tiny run. I know my cell phone,
I may have gotten a little blurry, but not to
the standards of the bigel and I had to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't know. I'll tell you what some of these
new cell phones.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Man, Well it is true, it is true. And now
here's you know, I'm more all subject a bit. But
this brings up a good point because you and I
we do get pictures, and frankly, I know we both
appreciate them compared to back in the day when people
are trying to describe things and oh gosh, theation. But
(05:06):
but if a person is using a cell phone. So
let's say if I did try to use my cell
phone to take a decent picture, you know, which, now
I think about it, I may have been able to.
But what we typically do when we do we think
we're trying to get a close up, is we, you know,
pull bring the camera in and then we use our
(05:27):
fingers to to make the whole screen close up. You
know how you said your fingers and yeah, well, actually
when you do that, you are reducing the number of
pixels in that picture. So you have to kind of
think about it this way. That zoom, which is good
for like you know, if you want to zoom in
(05:49):
on a mountaintop or something like that works. But when
you look at that picture, we look at what's in
the phone's view. Those are all the pixels that you're
going to half. And then when you use your fingers
to zoom in, what have you just done? You've just
you're just cut in half or one third or one
fourth or even more the number. I think I went
(06:11):
the wrong way there. You can't do fractions when I
have a sinus fell any rate, so that just makes
the image more blurry. The thing to do, though, is
most cell phones have this and and it's a good feature.
If you go into the settings on your cell phone
(06:31):
or on on your camera, you can you'll find something
that says Macro. And that's exactly when I take a
close up with my camera, my you know, I will
put on a Macro lens. And so if you're shooting
Macro up close, you're getting all the pixels. And I'll
(06:52):
tell you ron it can make night and day difference.
I did a little training on this and all this
last during one of the walkabouts, and it is amazing
how just that little bit right there you can take
a shot of let's say a caterpillar. Do it our
old fashioned way, you know, zooming in on it. But
(07:14):
then we're cutting down on a number of pixels and so,
and then you use a macro. It's like I said,
they are there night and day, and you're absolutely right.
Some of these actually not even new cell phones. I mean,
for a while now, the cameras have been really getting good.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah. Nina Bagman, who is a queen bee breeder in Columbus,
will send me pictures of some of her queen bees
or some of the bees that came back into her hives,
and I can count the pollen on the legs of
the I mean, it's like, you got to be kidding me,
And she said, no, it's my cell phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wow. Anyway, now that now we've given a tutorial on
photographing insects, well you do appreciate that. By the way,
so you found some bagworms that were doing their thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All right, Well, I've told you the story and you've
had it happen to the reason for this, I got
to go back to the you know, remember I'm kind
of halfway sick now, see sort of you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's right to give me.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, I'm on medication. But you know, if you back
to the reason for taking decent pictures when you want
to diagnosis of something or you want an identification. I
I lost this picture. I had it years ago, or
somebody sent me a picture. I think I've told you
(08:33):
this before. You know, what is this caterpillar? And I'm
looking at it and it was like, is that a
caterpillar or someone's finger? It was that blurred. I couldn't
I couldn't tell. And so again, you know, that's why
that if you're sending if you're going to send yard
boy boy a picture, make sure it is a rim brand.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, because if he can't identify it, it goes to
Buggy Joe, and we want to make sure it's a
nice and cure for bug Joe as well. By the way,
Steve show me a really clear picture the other night
of a saw fly, and I showed him how to
tele difference between a caterpillar and a softly No, no,
I didn't we learned that from you.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh well, well you could learn it. I could learn
it back.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, you know, I was.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I was agreeing because how many times now, at our
at our age, at our mature age, Yeah, how many
times at our mature age. Have you have you learned
something and you so excited it's like, wow, I didn't
know that, and then you realize, you know, maybe a
day or so later or so, oh my gosh, I
(09:45):
I knew that ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, a long time. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes, I just relearned it as a brand news thing.
So yeah, that was button Boush sawfly And that was
another big These alerts.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Are gonna He said, you were all fired up. He
showed me that and he was like, oh my god,
Joe was all fired up. He said he was sick
and down for the cow and had poults all wrapped
around his head and he said he came out anyway
and what was that possum something or other lard and
something else anyway, Yeah, yeah, wrapped around his head. But okay, sorry,
(10:30):
but that was that's a good looking sawtfly, by the way.
So I'm excited that you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Actually, yeah, yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I was dragging around out there at bowl your farm,
but yes it was. So here's the deal, which I
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I like, wait wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
a minute, back up, back up for a second. So
what you're telling us is that bagworms in our area
had started to hatch.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know, we're all over the place, are you. I mean,
I tell you this is this is just kind of fun.
You know, Yes, bagworms are underway now. That certainly means
further south where people commonly call them evergreen bagworms because
you know, we find them on so many evergreens, and
that's true, but of course we always remind people that,
(11:20):
well that may be true, but they can feed on
over one hundred and thirty over one hundred and thirty
different species, maybe more. And last year, for example, my
only bagworm alert, aside from letting people know that they
had hatched like this one will be was a sweet
gum that was just almost sweet gums columbnar sweet gums,
(11:43):
which I like those trees, but boy, they were just
getting hammered by bagworms. So we have to be mindful
to be looking at your deciduous trees and shrubs as well.
But this they're very hard to see right now. They're
probably only going to be you know, maybe a quarter
inch if that much, definitely under a half inch, and
(12:06):
the bags are going to be made out of their excrement.
Now that sounds kind of bad. But we call insect
excrement frass. And it looks like kind of ready sawdust.
And at this time of the year, at first, well
not this time of the year, the first inst are caterpillars.
They tend to hold the bags straight up in the air.
(12:27):
They don't let them, you know, let gravity take over
where the bags are hanging down, and so very often
they look like little dunce caps. But I have to
tell you on you do have to look closely. And
actually backing up as to how I found the infestation yesterday,
was I just lanced over.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And wait, wait, wait, we're gonna have to leave it hanging.
They have to take a break. Oh no, and we'll
find out. We'll find out how did Joe find the
bag worm? And by the way, frass is actually a
aviation for it comes from there. No, just kidding, all right,
quick break, we come back, buggy Joe Boggs here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 2 (13:22):
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Welcome back, You're in the Arden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggs. I s
I Report, that would be sinus infection report, talking about
(14:08):
how he found the the bagworms and his Dennis Parking lot.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, so it wasn't a dentist. Did you say.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dentists or I said dentist doctors?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, doctor, I thought I forgot No, I tell you,
I mean they'd have to really drill up in here
to get to the sinus, right, that's why so much pain.
But yeah, that's right it. I was looking at the
I just having a glance over and saw some some
bags from last year. I mean, I was going to
(14:42):
say old bags, but then you know we might no no, no, yeah, no, yeah,
fall some bags from last year, and uh, and you
know that's that's that's a good way to detect them.
Because bagworms when they're finished, when the they're they're moth caterpillars.
So when everything is done at the end of the year,
and I should have said this, there's only one generation.
(15:04):
When everything's finished at the end of the year, what's
left in the bag would be if it's a female,
she's dead. She never becomes a moth or doesn't become
something that looks like a moth. At the end of
the season, her body fills up with eggs and that's
where they're at until those eggs hatch in the spring.
(15:25):
So the bags can hang around, literally for quite some time.
They don't just disappear, even the male bags, because the
males do become something of a moth. They can't fly,
they don't look so much like a moth, but they
can fly at any rate. That's a good way to
find an infestation because bagworms tend to start very very slow.
(15:47):
I mean, the populations may eventually become high, but they
tend to start out very slow for the first year
or two. And part of the reason for that is
when these eggs hatch. There's two options for the caterpillars.
One is that they can stay on the host that
their mother fed on the previous year, or they could
(16:10):
spin up a little bit of silk and remain attached
to that silk and when the wind picks up the silk,
it takes both milk and the caterpillars. Yes, that's balloon
that's that's where they're They're they're at igniting the gap.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
There's an never green over there, land over there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh yeah, no, no, you can anyway, So so they
that is called ballooning. And since and listeners may have
picked up on this, the female they said never leave
the bag, so they you know, the female mobs never
fly somewhere. So again, how do they move around? Well,
(16:48):
they can crawl a little bit. You see them along
the highway, you know, a little TARSI out said, you know,
you hit your eye, you know a little bit of
food from your anyway, I'm sorry, but but this is
the primary way that they move, which means they can
move quite a distance. So typically what happens, let's say
you have I'm going to use juniper or arborvity because
(17:12):
you know, that's what we see them on a lot.
Let's say you have a row of arbravity and you
know they look fine, and then you know this season,
you go out and look and there's this a little
patch of what's going on in there, a little patch
of brown or maybe you don't see that, and there's
just a few bagrooms that blew in. Well, each female
is capable of laying up to fifteen hundred eggs. So
(17:36):
now when you get the original arrivs on the balloons
ballooning in, and you can imagine, it doesn't take long
until that little tiny infestation becomes a big infestation. So
that's why it's very important to just keep monitoring and
keep looking because you and I get this all the time.
And as a matter of fact, it's even happened to
(17:58):
me with my own juniors where a person, you know,
walks past the plants, maybe daily, and all of a sudden,
oh my gosh, I've got a brown area is turning brown,
and what are these things hanging here? As if they
just showed up right. Yes, the bagworms they use their
host material like juniper, or like arbor wide or like
(18:23):
an oak leaf, and they weave that material into silk
to create something like a silk sock, and that's what
that's where the caterpillar lives. So they're camouflaged. And I
actually I do not fault people for not seeing them
until they cause damage, because sometimes they're very hard to see. Yeah,
(18:43):
but if you're looking, if you see bagworms from last
year and nothing was done, it's only to chance someone sprayed.
For example, at the doctor's office, somebody could have sprayed
those and that does happen. I go up and I'm
you know, there's nothing there, But in this case, apparently
no one did. So there you go. It's able to
at least see that they have hatched or all.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You go up there and see a big hole in
the bottom of it and nothing's.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's true and nothing's there, And what could have happened there?
What could have happened, Well, you mean a big hole
in the bag like.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A predator likes. Maybe there's a predator that comes up
and feeds on those.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You know, I tell you that is fantastic. Ron This
is I mean, you're going to have to extend the
show because I can say we're weird. We're going to
go in for a couple of hours. I'm feeling better,
you know. The aspirins kicking in. But if you if
you might see big openings torn in bags because bold
(19:44):
faced hornets, yellow jackets, paper wasps, they're meat eaters and
they will come in. And I've seen this, I have pictures,
you've heard me teach about it. Where you know, bald
face horns just decimated a bag where manifestation in a
Christmas tree plantation I was visiting. Also, you might see
a hole that was from a parasitoid, a wasp that
(20:07):
made a living on the bagworm as what some people
call parasite. But a parasitoid is like a predator that
lives inside its hosts, so kind of each from the
inside out. And here's maybe the final note about bagworms.
First of all, if you do find that you know
these early in stars, these little tiny bags, hold off
(20:27):
doing anything for a while because they hatch over time.
They all don't hatch at once, So just hold off
a little bit until they get a little bigger, and
then you're more likely to get.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
All of them if you're planning to spray. But if
you don't want to spray, plant a lot more flowers,
because those paracetoid walks rely on nectar to make a
living and there's a good research to show low bagworm
numbers in landscapes with a lot of flowers.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Now time for you to go and have round two
of those steroids.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Thanks, Thanks Joe for hanging in there. I hope you
feel better all right, take care. Thanks to our callers,
Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course to Joe Strucker filling
in for Danny today was a little bit under the weather.
Thank you Joe for coming in on the last minute call.
We really appreciate it. Thank you for all you do,
because without Joe, this show wouldn't go. Now, do yourself
a favor. Get out there, keep planting those trees, keep
(21:24):
planting those native plants and native selections. Pamper your worms,
keep the kids and dogs involved with gardening, and by
all means making the best weekend of your life. See you.
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