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and Football Full Circle. Joined this hour by my buddy
rich Sermanello. Find him on Twitter at Shermanello. He is
the co host of College Football Today. So excited to
talk to him about college football and hopefully getting a
little bit closer to kick off. But obviously we have
some things in a way here, Rich, I texted you
earlier today before we started filming and said, you know,
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I'm going through these eggs and flows like everybody else.
One day, I feel good about it. One day two
weeks ago, you and I think estimated on here that
like a ten percent chance at the college season was
going to get finished. Nothing is really materially changed, but
I somehow feel better than that today. Not for all
the right reasons. I just think they're going to try
to do it harder than I thought they were going
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to try doing it, and it brings us to our
first topic, and that's Ross Dellinger of Sports Illustrated wrote
a pretty in depth article here interviewing a variety of
different people in terms of what they are faced with
and the challenges what they're faced with. And now, as
you can see from his tweet up on the screen,
a new hurdle stands before college football, the mandatory fourteen
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day quarantine for positive contacts. A high risk contact includes
practice collisions, doctors say. And if that's the case, Rich,
it's not looking good to finish the season as good
as I was feeling before the segment. Yeah, yeah, I'm
with you, Mike. I mean it's a lot of yo
yo of emotions for me. Um, there are times I'm optimistic.
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You know, watch the guys on ESPN a couple of
days ago and listen to David Pollock, Uh, listen to
Joey Galloway, Kirk curb streets a little more positive than
he was in the past. But there are a lot
of reality of these. Ross Dellinger brings up one which
is vital, which is, you know, this is football. I mean,
the game is predicated on contact. And if you have
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individuals that have been determined as being COVID positive, how
quickly can you move them out of the equation, how
quickly can they be quarantined? And what is the impact
on next week's opponent. See, that's that's the issue that
none of us know what's going to happen is I
don't know what the emotion is going to be from
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those coaches, from the administrators, from the university. Once it's
determined that you know, next week's opponent is per due,
they've had seven kids, let's say, who have tested positive.
What exactly do we do at that point because there
are no standard protocols set by the n c a
A for this upcoming season. Yeah. So Stephen Goodman is
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a key UH person in this article, as interviewed by
Ross Talinger. He's an associate dean and professor of epidemiology Stanford.
So it's like about as smart as I have. He
knows medicine really well. He studied at some of the
most renowned universities in America, Johns Hopkins, Washington University, Harvard,
and n y U. And he talks about this notion
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that a high risk contact includes collisions in practice. He
chuckles when hearing this um he said, you'd be talking
about knocking out a whole team quote, it bumps into reality.
If you're going to be that cautious, and I'm not
saying you shouldn't be, does that make football possible? I
think there are good reasons to doubt it. So with
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all of these things at play, which it seems like
they're going to have to modify the definitions of contact
or just hope to get extremely lucky the extremely lucky
thing that isn't going to happen. Realistically, You and I
both know that. I think it's just going to get
to a point though, where they're going to have to
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lower the bar for what is acceptable for people to
be playing through everything else. Because if you start contact
tracing and one guy was in practice, he's in an
offensive alignment and he's had contact with we've talked about
it before, thirty people in one practice. Maybe eliminate contact
and practice. That might be an option to what what
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do you do, Mike with the opponent maybe from forty
eight hours ago? You know what you know he was
he was enduring contact with the entire defensive line linebackers,
some dbs from the opposing UH team. So do you
shut that squad down to and you bring up a
really cogent point, which is I think this is all
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going to come down to what is the appetite for risk?
That's really what this is going to become. Because we
know there's risk, We're starting to get an idea as
time passes just exactly how risky this is for the
age category, whether you're talking about long term illness or
possibly fatalities here, how badly do you want football? And
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what is your appetite for risk? That's really what this
is going to come down to. Because we could all
play the hope game and the fairy tales, the reality
is there are gonna be athletes in the fall, football
and other sports throughout college campuses that come down with
this illness. Uh, not exactly sure how university is gonna
react at that point. Yeah. One SEC assistant coach described
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the contact tracing portion of the guidelines as quote overwhelming.
I'd imagine I'd imagine it's overwhelming. A Pact twelve team
doctor calls the issue a massive challenge, and West Virginia
Athletic director Shane Lyons, even while on n C a
video news conference, post a chilling question last week to
the audience listening, how can we play the game of
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football and with contact tracing, not lose the entire team.
I think that is really sort of what you and
I have been aiming at over these last few weeks.
It's not that I think everybody's going to be hospitalized,
It's not that I think nobody should play. It's just
using some of the logic that is in place by
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A by A guidelines. And this goes for the NFL. Also,
I don't really even know how it's possible. You it
seems like we have to get extremely lucky, by the
way welcoming in our radio audience. I'll pose that question
to you because Shane Lyons, whom I've met, really smart
athletic director, sharp athletic director. That's the question really that
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I think everybody has. Yeah, there's no question about it.
And this might take us on to a different tangent.
But if if you watched Mike Real Sports on HBO,
one of my favorite shows on HBO, Chris Hinton, former
offensive lineman and his wife an attorney, pose the question,
who is representing these young athletes? They don't have a
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union like professional athletes, and uh, they're gonna be a
lot of social questions that get raised this ball, especially
if somebody really gets hit hard with this illness. Yeah, absolutely,
putting them in front of the two, in front of
on the front lines to their detriment. I think is
going to be a question athletic directors are gonna have
to answer, Richard. I will come back talk about some
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Earlier this week where uh, the n c A was
front and center in Congress to debate a variety of
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different issues, notably the name, image and likeness issue that
has been a big topic within the n c A.
States like California and Florida have passed legislation to allow
these players to make money off of their name, image,
and likeness. And it is obviously an extremely complicated topic
with far reaching impact. Rich but I tend to side
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with the players if for no other reason that we're
in a free market economy and to deny them this
and suggest that they shouldn't be paid when the schools
are making money off of their jerseys and the like
is silly. It's been silly for a long time. Yeah,
I couldn't agree more. Um, you know, the philosophical question
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that I would pose, Mike, I think we're on the
same side, but maybe just to the audience in general,
is where in our and I'm a capitalist by every
stretch of the imagination, where in our society do we
limit someone's ability to make money regardless of their age?
What would be your what would be your block? Uh?
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Is it that you're concerned that schools like Clemson and
Ohio State and USC and Alabama will build a bigger
gap on the smaller schools that's happening anyway? You know
that that's that's Oh yeah, I mean the arms race
that happened a long time ago when it came to
facilities and your ability to prepare a kid for the NFL.
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That's been going on for a very long period of time,
and that's moving at warp speed. I just can't fundamentally.
I hate to say this, but it goes against my
American principles to say that I'm going to deny you. Now,
I've never really been a big fan of of let's
pay them. I still lean on the side of I
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think there's a lot of payment. There's a lot of
diviidend in that scholarship and many of the benefits that
comes with being a student athlete or a scholarship student athlete.
But for the n I L part of this equation,
if you can go out and capitalize and make money
off of your skills, your name, your image, your likeness,
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I thought all along that was the answer for these
young men and women in college athletics. So I have
absolutely no problem with it. Yeah, so there's a really
important thing that I'm going to read here, So give
me some time to read it. But Senator Corey Booker
to n c A President Mark Emerth. This happened earlier
this week at the hearing today regarding the governing body's
refusal for the full scale reform, most notably on athlete healthcare.
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It's a long statement, and give me some time to
read it. Now. The n c A is running to
us because states have tried to put in rules to
create more fairness. Seems only responsible that we as a
body should put first and foremost the education and health
and safety of our students, because you all are not
enforcing standards that give any assurances in interviews with athletes
themselves that this is happening. I gotta pause to let
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everybody know. Corey Booker is from New Jersey. He went
to high school with the best man at my wedding.
He was a standout running back, went to Stanford and
has been wildly successful outside of football since. I think
he knows very well the power of trip and everything
that it can bring him. But he goes on to say,
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you just made a comment that you have spoken to me.
This is what Mark Emmert said. You have not spoken
to me in six years since we've last been here.
You and I have mutual friends. They say very good
things about you as a person and as a leader.
I'm opening an invitation to you right now to meet
with a group of bipartisan senators, so we can start
to talk through about what your plans to address these
things that are patently unacceptable and put our student athletes
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in danger. In six years, we haven't had an opportunity
to talk about the serious health challenges facing student athletes
and the serious colleges to getting an education. And you
have the n c A since last we talked, has
made hundreds of millions of dollars. I'll stop it there.
He goes on and he dunks on him at the end. Uh,
But he can dunk on anybody when he's speaking from
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experience that really very few other senators probably have. There's
been others that have been uh, student athletes. But Corey
Book are really talking a lot of sense here. And
Mark Emmert kind of talking out of both sides of
his mouth and caught doing it. Yeah, which is which
is a very n ci A type of move out
of Mark Emmert. Um. You know again, I'll go back
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to the conversation Mike about who has the back of
these athletes. The parents due to a large extent, but
I don't think that their power or their reach is substantial.
No one is really representing these athletes. And you know,
I know crimea River. I mean, they have a lot
of advantages that that a lot of UM athletes are
a lot of students on campuses don't have. But if
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you have to look at the the amount of benefit,
the financial windfall, we're having this discussion about college football
quite frankly because of what they're able to bring to
those campuses. I mean, they are essential employees almost on
these campuses, because if we don't have football this fall,
we know what's going to happen to the coffers and
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to the other athletic programs on those various campuses. So
I think it's high time that we we provide more
support to student athletes, give them more leverage, give them
a greater voice. Gradually, we've been seeing that over the
past couple of years. I think that's gonna go uh
at a very fast pace over the next twelve months. Yeah,
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and I'll I can't finish this entire statement, but I'll
say he says. I conclude by saying that at a
time when our nation is going through a racial reckoning,
the fact that African Americans are dishproportionately represented in the sports,
that they bring in billions of dollars for what acts
like a cartel and yet can't even afford to have
meals when they're hungry and Canada, or to have their
families see their games. It's unacceptable. I think he says
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it really well. There will continue on to part two
of this political discussion because I think it was also
this happens on many topics. We just happened to be
the people talking about college football. But senators can't be
experts at every single topic. But it is odd when
you're talking about something that seems like a basic understanding
of what's going on. And Lindsay Graham in particular was
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called out by many people. He says, very few coaches
that get paid a lot of money. Very few coaches
get paid a lot of money that lose over time.
Roger Sherman of The Ringer states, the flagship university of
the state, which Linda Graham represents, South Carolina Side will
must Champ to a twenty eight million dollar contract extension
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in he's twenty six and twenty five is their head coach.
So I think that's a lot of money. Yeah, mediocrity
actually pays pretty well. Though. The first name that came
to mind for me he was how about Charlie Weiss
in the comments section of that tweet. He was off,
he was well represented. Yeah, Charlie Weiss, Uh he might.
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He has like sort of like that Bobby Bonia contract, um,
you know, being paid long after he left South Bend.
I think he was being paid into his tenure at
Kansas and and mediocrity followed Charlie Weiss wherever he was
as as a head coach. So uh yeah, now you
you bring up a good point. I mean, Lindsey Graham
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is a senator. I don't expect him to know everything,
but there are times in life when you'd be wise
to stay in your lane. And Lindsey Graham talking about
college football, um and really denigrating a lot of these
athletes and suggesting that then being able to capitalize on
their name, image and likeness somehow would be the downfall
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of the sport. Quite frankly, I think is ridiculous, uh
and and misguided. Now everybody from Alabama is going to
be tipped that I'm about to say this, but you
could argue it is the most relevant state in terms
of college football in the entire Union because South Carolina,
even though we just sort of took a shot at them.
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Has Clemson in it so really important that he should
know a little bit more. He says, you're going to
unleash holy hell on young college athletes if you don't
find some way to control people willing to buy a
player to come to a school. That's never happened before. Yeah,
that's that's been happening for generations. But but again, you know,
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the same trappings that are going to bring an athlete
to Clemson or to Ohio State or to one of
the you know, Texas, Oklahoma. Uh, that doesn't change. I
you know, it's going to be the same situation with
n I L in place. And again I don't see
the reason why you would deny these young student athletes
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an opportunity to financially capitalize. I I just fundamentally disagree
with that. Yeah, you see us to say that we
cannot have a bidding war for recruits. He punctuates it
with that, And I, as many people says that's going
on social media, horses out of the barn on that
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one for a long, long long time. But Wilkinson was
on the sidelines at Oklahoma when the horse left the
barn on that one. I don't want to get into
John Wooden to change sports. I want to get into
John Wooden and how u c l A built their
powerhouse in the sixties. But it's a long story, perhaps
for another segment or another basketball show altogether, Rich and
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things we have talked about in general, George, is the
idea of maybe a focus on the bullpen this year, right,
because I'm gonna do some rough math. I know you
don't love math, George, but roughly right, we're talking about
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starters getting what maybe ten, maybe nine, maybe eleven starts
per year, and we've heard a lot of teams say
that at least in the first couple of times through
the rotation, they may only go four or five innings.
Gets the program every single day on Evan t s
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the Grid, Mike and Rich talking about fun topic here, Rich,
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because you are intimately involved in this award and it's
the Maxwell Award watch List. Now, these watch lists obviously
come out this time of year, they start to get
whittled down throughout the year. But you are Director of
College Awards at the Maxwell Football Club, So explain a
little bit more about the Maxwell Award, what exactly it
is to these college football players, and maybe how differ
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from some of the other accolades out there. Yeah, so quickly.
I've been affiliated with the club now for more than
ten years, same position, director of College Awards. So I'm
the guy who spends most of the offseason developing watch lists.
Quite frankly, watch lists are great. We have a lot
of kids on there. It's a it's a fun opportunity
to shine a light not just on the big stars,
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the Justin Fields and the Trevor Lawrences, but we go
deep into every conference. You get an opportunity to learn about,
you know, the Tavin Collins from Tulsa, the Jared Patterson
from Buffalo, the Chris Robison from Florida, Atlantic so for
those kids and those schools, it tends to be somewhat
of a celebratory effort. Just a couple of days ago,
on Friday, we release the watch list and and I
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literally go through the entire offseason. I do other stuff,
I spend time with my family, but you know, I
I go through. I go through everything I can, film, stats,
talking to scouts. It's it's a lot of fun for
me to call through this in formation and and boil
it down. A couple of weeks ago we had the
Banaric watch list come out. We have awards at the
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club that go from National High School Player of the Year, offensive, defensive.
We've had the likes of Trevor Lawrence uh uh in
the House over the Jacob Eason a few years back,
the Georgia slash Washington quarterback uh And we also have
NFL Player of the Year, NFL Coach of the Year,
College Coach of the Year, Try State Player, and Coach
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of the Year. So a lot of different awards, but
the one that's most topical right now is the Maxwell Award,
which is uh the the equivalent of the Heisman Trophy.
It's the best player in college football and so UH
we're I want to work my way backwards through this
list because there are ninety names, as you stated, so
there's a lot of different guys we can go to. Obviously,
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I'm going to talk about David Bailey. They're running back
in Boston College because that's what I do. It's fun
for me to do it on this show. So I'm
always going to mention the v C guys. But there
are four non skill position players, non offensive skill position
players on the list, and it's Pine Seul. You got
Marvin Wilson from from Oregon, Marvin Wilson from Florida State,
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Michael Parsons from Penn State, and then Stingley from l
s U. Now, the likelihood of these guys winning this
particular award, uh probably remains low, but as you stated,
there there on this list, and they are standout guys
that have at least at the very least have a
lot of scouts looking their way as potential first round picks. Yeah,
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I'm glad you brought that up because you know, you know,
you talk about how do you what's the difference between
you know, your awards, your club other awards. Potentially, we
really try to go by the letter of the law,
who is the most outstanding player in college football? So
I I understand the vast majority wind up being quarterbacks.
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Joe Burrow most recently last year, was the Maxwell Award winner.
Uh quarterbacks have reigned supreme over the better part of
the last twenty years. But it's important for me and
for the audience that first got to look at the
list on Friday, to point out the fact that really,
by the letter of the law, Pinay Seul probably is
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one of the top five players in college football. Willy
win the award. It's an uphill battle, you know. At
some point I'm heavily involved with the semifinalists list, which
which comes out hopefully at the end of October, if
we have a full college football season, and then we
turn it over to s I D S head coaches,
members of the media. It's close to a thousand voters,
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so it's completely out of my control. Would they give
the award to an offensive lineman? Will they have watched
that closely? Probably not, But it's still very important for
me again to let the audience know Panay Suil. You
mentioned Marvin Wilson, Michael Parsons, Derek Stinkley. These are truly
among the best players in college football entering this season. Yeah, look,
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there are a number of QB names on here that
we're familiar with. I you can scour all over this
list and you see the Ian Books of the World
and Shane Bushell, and obviously the guys are at the
top of the list, as you said, Fields and and others.
Keaton Slova's somebody that we talked about quite a bit,
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and some other names. You see DeVonta Smith from Alabama
and Naja Harris from Alabama. So there are standout names
on here, but you also have some other guys that
maybe aren't the first person you think of, Uh what
filer you have Khalil Pimpleton from Central Michigan. Guys that
are not the first names that you would necessarily expect
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to be on a list. But as the season progresses,
people will maybe learn a little bit about these guys
if they hadn't previously known about Khalil Pimpleton from Central Michigan. Yeah,
and and for me, Mike gets also, you know, again
we've never never had a in or from the mac
Uh will that change this year? From a betting man,
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probably not. But but I think these watch lists and
and listen, people go fall and they roll their eyes
and they'll they'll poke fun. I get it. Uh, there
is a marketing tool side of this. It's certainly it
helps to get the word out for our club, but
it's also a really good primer for fans of the
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NFL or the NFL Draft, because there are a lot
of kids on this list that maybe you haven't paid
attention to. But if you're a fantasy guy, if you're
an NFL draft guy, if you're a fan of any
one of the thirty two teams in the NFL, not
a bad idea to start paying attention to these kids,
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because they're more than just stats compilers. They're more than
just people that I pay attention to. NFL scouts are
watching these guys as well. Yeah, there's a couple of
guys on this list that you and I both I've
talked about in the past since said, you know what,
that guy really could have gone pro. I'm not sure
why it is that he came back. And one of
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those names that jumps out to me is Tayland Wallace
from Oklahoma State. It was thought that he could have
gone pro. He's back now at Oklahoma state. Anybody else
will talk about him for a moment, anybody else on
that list, and you're like, you know what, we really
was surprised this guy came back for another year. Yeah,
there were a couple. We might have talked about it
last month. There were a couple. And the position is
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really curious to me. Thayland Wallace not healthy at the
end of last year, missed I think the last five
or six games with an injury. Maybe that was a
factor for him. Still a surprise. I think he could
have been potentially a second round draft choice in April.
But running backs in particular, you know, the mindset right
now is running backs have only so many years. You
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want to, you know, keep that tread on the tire
for as long as you can, or at least until
you get to that point where you're being paid. So
Travis E. T n of Clemson and not j Harris
of Alabama, for me, were two big surprises. I thought
they'd go the Jonathan Taylor route and say we've we've
had three very successful seasons. Again, I think both of
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those kids were day one or day to draft choices
to decide to go back to school. It's a very
personal decision. Uh, those are powerhouse programs. I think in
the case of Travis c E t n he loves Clemson,
he loves the college experience. It meant something to him
to come back for the senior for his senior season,
beyond just his future in the NFL. Having said that, though,
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I was shocked when mid January rolled around and those
kids did not declare for the draft, and you got
guys like Clyde Edwards Hilaire gets drafted at the end
of the first round, you had a j. Dillon get
drafted in the second round. You could at least argue,
at the very least argue that they are on part
with those players and potentially even bigger talents Ettenne and
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Edwards Hilaire. There's a lot of comparisons to be made
about their verse utility at the very least. Yeah, no question. Uh,
you know, Travis is an outstanding receiver out of the backfield.
We even saw that from Naja Harris last year. There
was one play you probably saw it, Mike, or you've
probably looked at it on YouTube, you know, where he
showed both the power, the speed and and the overall athleticism,
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the explosiveness, where he just he ran through tacklers and
then hurdled tacklers and the kid is really the total package.
And and yeah, I don't know what more there is
for him to gain, but I like it. I mean,
I'm a college guy, I'm a college finger. So you
know what he wants. We get a chance to see him,
hopefully for one more season. He wants to spend another
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year in Tuscaloosa. You know, maybe it has something to
do with education. Maybe there's an opportunity to get closer
to a degree. I think it's all positive as long
as obviously there's not some kind of a serious illness
and that that kind of sucks when that happens in
your senior year. Yeah, of course. Uh. A couple of
more names here, maybe from schools that are a little
bit off the radar. You know. Puca Williams, running back
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out of Kansas. I think I think is a name
that when I looked down through Kansas is not a
not a school's name that gets on there very often. Obviously,
less Miles is doing his best to turn that around.
We see Josh Johnson, the running back from Louisiana. Monroe
is yet another name. Dustin Crumb a QB out of
Kent State. We talked about another uh MAC player earlier.
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Names like that. It's good to see them on the list.
It gives it look, it gives the schools. As you said,
there's a Marcony component, but it gives the schools a
little bit of a shot. And be like, see, I've
been telling you to their friends. At the very least,
if you're a fan, you say, see, I've been telling
you Dustin Crumb is legit, or I've been telling you
Puca Williams is as good a running back as a
lot of these other guys to be mentioned on the
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same list. I don't want to I don't want to
overhype it, but there is really a human side to this.
I to the business for twenty years. I've gotten to
know a lot of these kids, their families, they're high
school coaches. When they get an opportunity to be mentioned
in the same breath as the kids from the major schools,
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the Clemsons and the Alabama's, and you are a Puca
Williams from Kansas, or you're playing in the Sun Belt
like a Josh Johnson, it's a big deal. I mean,
I've seen it personally, I worked with the s I
d s, the s I d s and the universities,
and the fan base is Mike. They absolutely love it.
So there's a business side of this, but there's a
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human side for me to have an opportunity to shine
a light to champion these kids who realistically Dustin Crumb
twenty t D passes a couple of picks last year player.
Is he gonna win our award? No, it's probably not
gonna happen, but now is his opportunity to celebrate. I
think it's all positive. But I started the whole segment saying, like, hey,
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David Bailey from BC, he made it like he's not
even as good as A. J. Dillon. I watched guys,
But it's fun. It's fun for me to talk about
and I'm gonna talk smack to people whose schools maybe
don't have somebody on there. Richardson nor ex side as well. Right,
so real quick, you can't pick Fields or Lawrence or Sewell.
Who's the best pro pro prospect on this list? Big
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Keaton slovas fan after just one year, I'm a believer.
Good stuff. Okay, we'll come back and do another segment
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Rich talking about it's a couple of different topics here.
One is one. I'll let Rich set it up. But
you put out a sweet last week which you got
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a little bit of. The second one you got more
heat on on the first, but we'll take the We'll
take the first one as it goes And you said here,
if the Q starting QB goes down, these eight schools
are in the best position to handle it. I'm just
gonna rip them off. Well, actually i'll before we rip
off the schools, explain why you threw that tweet out
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there first. What's your expectation for this season? Yeah? So,
I mean, these are the things I think about before
I put a tweet out, And I always saying to
you during the break you probably go through the same thing.
I I love Twitter, and I love the communication with
with other fans who are passionate. Yeah, it's a love
hate relationship. It depends like some people who just come
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at me like cursing and stuff like that. It doesn't
bother me when people do that. I've been cursed at
my whole life. It's just the ignorance. It's like, I'll
have a debate about anything, but you know, bring something
to the table, you know, don't just you know, don't
just curse at me. It's ridiculous. But here, here was
the impetus of that tweet was I think this is
this is obviously going to be a unique season in
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college football in the NFL. And not only I'm not
suggesting that you know, they're gonna be qbs that necessarily
come down with COVID or maybe they will, but there's
also the issue of we've never seen such a fractured
off season in terms of conditioning. Mike. So, you know,
these kids spent large portions of the off season where
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they would normally be with their strength and conditioning coach
or on their campus and having specific programs to strength
and weight and flexibility, versatility, whatever the case may be. Um,
these kids were home, you know, so we we don't
know what their durability is going to look like. We
don't know what they're conditioning is going to look like.
So I think now more than ever, depth is going
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to be a big factor. So I started thinking maybe
it was the weekend before last, like, you know, who
are the cores? Who are the teams that if a
quarterback goes down, they can key the train on the tracks?
And so I was sort of the uh, the brainchild
of that week. Yeah, so we got eight schools that
you ripped off here, what we want to take him?
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One at a time, We'll go with. Yeah, George's first.
So Georgia obviously has some depth here. They just landed
a couple of guys this offseason, so they're the team
that will be most prepared if somebody were to go down. Uh,
So explain their depth chart a little bit for everybody
out there. Yeah, that that would not have been the
case had it not been for um J. T. Daniels
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being declared eligible for this season. He's the USC former
USC starting quarterback. Um spent his whole freshman season as
the starter for Troy, was the starter at the beginning
of last year, injured in the opener, lost for the season,
and then the legend of Keith Slovis was born. But J. T.
Daniels is a legit blue chip quarterback who was starting
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for one of the premier programs out west UH and
now will either be the starter UH for for Todd
Monkins offense or be the backup to Jamie Newman. So
two high profile transfers. Newman comes over from Wake Forest,
Daniels comes over from USC. So UH Kirby smart in
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a really good position, better position than people would have expected,
considering they unexpectedly lost Jake from to the NFL. All
else equal, Um, I mean, George is gonna win so
many games. Can you see a possibility of Daniel's sort
of out playing getting in there on his own merit
outside of injury to displace Newman. Yeah, my money is
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on Jamie Newman. I just think he's the better all
around quarterback. I don't think it's a popular opinion. It's um.
It's funny. People I've spoken to UM seemed to think,
you know, he was the USC starter. I think they
dismissed the fact that Jamie Newman was the starter at
Wake Forest. They had this mentality of big fish, small pawn.
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Demon Deakins who cares small a C C campus program
out of Winston Salem. Big whoopee was good uh down
there in uh in North Carolina. He's legit. I think
he's a legitimate NFL quarterback, great arm talent, UH, solid
athlete outside of the pocket. I think he's gonna be
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a star for Georgia UM J T. Daniels. And maybe
it's a little bit unfair Mike, but because he was
a freshman, still young, still growing. But you know, Joe
Leasy and I talked about a lot in two thousand
and eighteen the progression that we had hoped to see
throughout his freshman season. You know, oftentimes young quarterbacks, once
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we get to late October November into the bowl game,
you're starting to see a kid who's playing like a sophomore.
I didn't see that. I don't think Joe did either
from J. T. Daniels. And then we only got one
game out of him last year. So I think Jamie
Newman is the more advance aunts quarterback, and I'm really
bullish on his future, not just in two thousand and twenty,
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but on Sundays as well. It's like how the legend
of Sam Donald was born really at the end of
his freshman years when he proved to people like, you
know what, this guy might be a star remains be
seen at the NFL level. So keep going through the
next few Arkansas State comes in. Uh, is that Arkansas State?
Or apple Aga State? Um? So it's Arkansas, Arkansas State,
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Boise State, Miami. The next three. Yeah, you know, in
Arkansas State. And it's funny because I I love people
come after me and they think it's uh, you know,
I'm I'm looking for tweets or retweets, um or likes
from from the Red Wolves fan base. I don't do that.
I mean, that's generally my opinion, some times wrong and
hopefully oftentimes I'm right. But Arkansas State, the concept of
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the tweet was the idea was who is most likely
to not skip a beat if they're starting quarterback goes down,
and in Arkansas State had that. Here's the perfect example, Mike.
So that's exactly what happened to Blake Anderson's team last year.
Logan bonn Or was the starter, uh tent t d
passes one pick through the first month of the season,
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and then he did go down and Lane Hatcher transfer
from Alabama comes over and throws twenty seven touchdown passes,
so that the two compared uh combined for thirty seven
touchdown passes did not skip a beat. Lane Hatcher was spectacular,
but Blake Anderson has said in the offseason that an
injury is not enough of a reason for a kid
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to lose his job. So we're gonna go back to
probably where we were last year, where it's Logan bond
Or starting, and the kid who threw twenty seven touchdown
passes and was all Sunbelt now is a backup. So
that's the reason why they're number two. Surprised in some ways,
you medn't see a transfer out of that school, right
That has been that has been the modus operandi for
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a lot of quarterbacks that felt like they should be
starting in other areas. So let's skip around the list
a little bit. I mean, it's not surprising to see
some of the names on here, like Miami they have
Derrick King there. USC. You just mentioned Keaton Slovis. But
despite losing JT. Daniels, if Keaton Slovis goes down, god forbid,
USC is still in a good spot, right yeah. And
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the reason for that, well, there's a reason for everything.
I do. It makes it so much easier because I
get questioned all the time, and and you know the
reason for that was is we saw Matt Think last year.
You know, because um Jack Sears transferred to Boise State,
so Boise State has better depth. J T. Daniels transfers
to Georgia, as we just mentioned. But Matt Fink is
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still in Los Angeles. And what he did last year
when Keaton Slopus was hurt is he led USC to
a huge victory over Utah in Salt Lake City. So
we've had an opportunity to see him in that chance
to be the starter, to have a big spot light opportunity,
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and he excelled at it. So that was my mindset.
Matt Think now, realizing he doesn't have to compete with
Jack Sears, he thought about transferring. There was talk he
was gonna go to Illinois, but J T. Daniels left.
So I like math it perfect veteran quarterback behind the
young star, perfect backup situation for Clayholton. All right. I
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hesitated to talk about Oregon because they're dealing with my
old QB. But Oregon is on this list. Is he
The starter is brown? The starter is Brown? Not the starter.
That's one of the questions they'll answer. But depth behind
him obviously. Yeah, that's a great question because you know
Oregon is here. Because I think it's going to be
Anthony Brown as as the backup. I think Tyler Show
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is going to take over. He's been in that program
for the past couple of years. Mario Cristo Ball groomed
him as Justin Herbert's backup to eventually take over. It's
built a lot like Justin Herbert, a big athletic kid.
We'll see what he does with his accuracy, his ability
to read defenses. I see it as Tyler being the starter.
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You bring in Anthony Brown from Boston College, perfect backup situations,
starting experience. I don't know your feelings. You know you're
closer to the BC program, Mike than I am. But
when he was healthy, there were times that he flashed,
and there were times I was really impressed with his
passing ability Anthony Brown. That is, so if he's pressed
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into action, if Tyler goes down and it's Anthony Brown
on the field, I think Oregon's in a lot better
situation than say, you know, the Clemson program, whose Ohio
State's backup you know, Ohio State had two seniors last
year behind Justin Fields. Now they've gotten extremely young. So
at least Anthony Brown is a known commodity. Yeah. I
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think he dealt with some injuries while he was there.
I think there are times when BC quarterbacks are at
the mercy of what their strengths are in terms of
team strengths and last couple of years. Obviously that's a j.
Dillon and the offensive lineman. These are guys that are
getting drafted on award watched lists, second round draft picks,
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first round draft picks last year with Chris Lynstrom, so
they you're beholden to what is the strength of the team. Um.
I've never thought BC, frankly since Matt Ryan graduated to
have much of a dynamic offense the Tyler Murphy year,
notwithstanding when he ran for a thousand yards at QB.
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But there's a lot worse positions to be and then
to have Anthony Brown as your backup QB. Look. I
for the sake of the starter, I hope he doesn't
get much of a chance, but if he does, I
hope he makes the most of it. He's not a
pro prospect by any stretch in my mind. I don't
think he's accurate enough, but um, good for him. And
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let's wrap it up with b y U. I know
I skipped overall miss and Boise and Miami, so their
fans can hate on me, but let's wrap it up
with b y U because they made the list as well. Yeah,
Zack Wilson, his lack of dourability is a big reason
why b y U winds up on the list. I
think I have them at number eight. I think I
think they were at the bottom of the list, but
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last season bottom not so bad. Hundred and thirty. Yes,
it's actually it's actually a pretty good position. But three
different current b y U quarterbacks Mike have started and
one games as starters. Jar Jarren Hall is the more
versatile of the quarterbacks. Baylor. What last name would you
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expect a b y U quarterback to be? Baylor Romney?
Yet another Romney coming out of b y U country.
So Baylor Romney played really well last year in four games,
lad b y U to an upset win over Boise States.
So you've got three quarterbacks with starting experience behind Zack Wilson.
It's Zack Wilson's job. Zach Wilson is a member of
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that long Maxwell Award watch us. But he's got to
understudies with experience behind him. Yeah. Well, since we two
have another minute to go, how about out of Boise
Miami or all miss You picked the school and we
can expand upon that. Well, let's do Miami since the
King King is getting all the pub who would have
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been playing there dr King and not transferred. Yeah, another
school that lost the transfer. Jarren Williams started some games
last year, decided to transfer. But Nicozy Perry is back.
And one of the things I was looking for is competence, Yes,
but I'm looking for experience. Nakozy Perry has almost a
full season of starting experience. The folks I talked to
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at Miami close to that program say he's had his
best off season so far with the program, despite the
fact that it's been abbreviated. So you know, I want
to back up at this level, who has played, who
has started, who has faced good competition. That's Nakozy Perry. Uh,
that's the reason why he's here. Quickly. Boise State has
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Jack Sears, the USC quarterback, and Chase Cord, who started
when Hank bock Meyer went down last year, and old
Miss and Lane Kiffin have two starting quarterbacks in uh
John Reese Plumley and Matt Coral, both of whom started
numerous games last year. Yeah, so we bounced around that
list a little bit obviously. As Rich said, it's intended
to give people a sense of what team won't miss
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a beat if the QB goes down this year more
than any other when you see qbs go down for
a variety of different reasons, or at least have to
take a game or two off if they test positive
for COVID. I think that's an interesting tweet to sift
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of Football Full Circle. My friend Rich dear Mannello. He
is the co host of College Football today and he's
having a little fun with people on Twitter last week.
And I saw it, and there's a lot of people
that hated you for it, but such as the nature
(45:33):
of that type of communication, but it was an interesting topic.
And you said, here, you're a top recruit, which current
coach would you most want to play for? Try not
to think trying to think only about the coach and
not the school he's at right now, because obviously these
guys can move around. Most of these guys are in place,
maybe not Matt Campbell, but Lincoln Riley, David Shaw, Scott Frost,
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Herm Edwards, Matt Campbell, David Cutcliffe, Jeff Halfley is conspicuously
absent from this list, but characters might That's right, that's right.
It's a two eight limit, is pesky, but uh so
give me your thought process. You really got a couple
of minutes. But why these guys and not saying the
other names, just pure personality And and that was what
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I wanted to invite, uh, you know, people and the
people on the Twitter spear to to join me. And
I got a lot of feedback. The one that was
most interesting was tons of support for p J Fleck.
P J Fleck has done a remarkable job. This was
not about whether I think he's a good coach, just
I know my personality. I don't need a lot of motivation.
I don't really react to rah Ra. During the days
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when I was a young athlete, raw Rod just didn't
work for me. It was unnecessary. So the row of
the boat and the PJ. Fleck type of personality I
think would eventually great on my nerves. But that's me.
I like more of the cerebral coach. That's why you
see David Shaw, you see uh, David Cutcliffe. I love
the herm edwords model. I'm not just going to prepare
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you to be a football player, but I'm gonna prepare
you for the rest of your life. So there was
a lot of thought that went into it, uh, and
I got a lot of great feedback. But the most
interesting thing was UH, not having p J. Fleck and
having Scott Frost from his same division really rankled a
lot of people in Minnesota. Yeah. Look, Scott Frost got
a lot of cash right, and he was a national
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championship winnings quarterback. He coached a team to an undefeated season.
Now he's back in his home state trying to win
it all. So good stuff there. I think Ryan Day
will grow on people over time. UH, people will start
to learn a little bit more about his personality. I
think he will be interesting. I think BC missed a
golden opportunity uh to hire him when he back when
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he was the coordinator. There so a little fun with
Rich on this list on behalf of Rich Jarmanella, the
co host of College Football Today, and my producer Brian Rokowski.
Always well prepared. I hope you enjoyed watching this edition
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and Football Full Circle. Joined this hour by my buddy
rich Sermanello. Find him on Twitter at Shermanello. He is
the co host of College Football Today. So excited to
talk to him about college football and hopefully getting a
little bit closer to kick off. But obviously we have
some things in a way here, Rich, I texted you
earlier today before we started filming and said, you know,
(00:43):
I'm going through these eggs and flows like everybody else.
One day, I feel good about it. One day two
weeks ago, you and I think estimated on here that
like a ten percent chance at the college season was
going to get finished. Nothing is really materially changed, but
I somehow feel better than that today. Not for all
the right reasons. I just think they're going to try
to do it harder than I thought they were going
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to try doing it, and it brings us to our
first topic, and that's Ross Dellinger of Sports Illustrated wrote
a pretty in depth article here interviewing a variety of
different people in terms of what they are faced with
and the challenges what they're faced with. And now, as
you can see from his tweet up on the screen,
a new hurdle stands before college football, the mandatory fourteen
(01:25):
day quarantine for positive contacts. A high risk contact includes
practice collisions, doctors say. And if that's the case, Rich,
it's not looking good to finish the season as good
as I was feeling before the segment. Yeah, yeah, I'm
with you, Mike. I mean it's a lot of yo
yo of emotions for me. Um, there are times I'm optimistic.
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You know, watch the guys on ESPN a couple of
days ago and listen to David Pollock, Uh, listen to
Joey Galloway, Kirk curb streets a little more positive than
he was in the past. But there are a lot
of reality of these. Ross Dellinger brings up one which
is vital, which is, you know, this is football. I mean,
the game is predicated on contact. And if you have
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individuals that have been determined as being COVID positive, how
quickly can you move them out of the equation, how
quickly can they be quarantined? And what is the impact
on next week's opponent. See, that's that's the issue that
none of us know what's going to happen is I
don't know what the emotion is going to be from
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those coaches, from the administrators, from the university. Once it's
determined that you know, next week's opponent is per due,
they've had seven kids, let's say, who have tested positive.
What exactly do we do at that point because there
are no standard protocols set by the n c a
A for this upcoming season. Yeah. So Stephen Goodman is
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a key UH person in this article, as interviewed by
Ross Talinger. He's an associate dean and professor of epidemiology Stanford.
So it's like about as smart as I have. He
knows medicine really well. He studied at some of the
most renowned universities in America, Johns Hopkins, Washington University, Harvard,
and n y U. And he talks about this notion
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that a high risk contact includes collisions in practice. He
chuckles when hearing this um he said, you'd be talking
about knocking out a whole team quote, it bumps into reality.
If you're going to be that cautious, and I'm not
saying you shouldn't be, does that make football possible? I
think there are good reasons to doubt it. So with
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all of these things at play, which it seems like
they're going to have to modify the definitions of contact
or just hope to get extremely lucky the extremely lucky
thing that isn't going to happen. Realistically, You and I
both know that. I think it's just going to get
to a point though, where they're going to have to
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lower the bar for what is acceptable for people to
be playing through everything else. Because if you start contact
tracing and one guy was in practice, he's in an
offensive alignment and he's had contact with we've talked about
it before, thirty people in one practice. Maybe eliminate contact
and practice. That might be an option to what what
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do you do, Mike with the opponent maybe from forty
eight hours ago? You know what you know he was
he was enduring contact with the entire defensive line linebackers,
some dbs from the opposing UH team. So do you
shut that squad down to and you bring up a
really cogent point, which is I think this is all
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going to come down to what is the appetite for risk?
That's really what this is going to become. Because we
know there's risk, We're starting to get an idea as
time passes just exactly how risky this is for the
age category, whether you're talking about long term illness or
possibly fatalities here, how badly do you want football? And
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what is your appetite for risk? That's really what this
is going to come down to. Because we could all
play the hope game and the fairy tales, the reality
is there are gonna be athletes in the fall, football
and other sports throughout college campuses that come down with
this illness. Uh, not exactly sure how university is gonna
react at that point. Yeah. One SEC assistant coach described
(05:26):
the contact tracing portion of the guidelines as quote overwhelming.
I'd imagine I'd imagine it's overwhelming. A Pact twelve team
doctor calls the issue a massive challenge, and West Virginia
Athletic director Shane Lyons, even while on n C a
video news conference, post a chilling question last week to
the audience listening, how can we play the game of
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football and with contact tracing, not lose the entire team.
I think that is really sort of what you and
I have been aiming at over these last few weeks.
It's not that I think everybody's going to be hospitalized,
It's not that I think nobody should play. It's just
using some of the logic that is in place by
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A by A guidelines. And this goes for the NFL. Also,
I don't really even know how it's possible. You it
seems like we have to get extremely lucky, by the
way welcoming in our radio audience. I'll pose that question
to you because Shane Lyons, whom I've met, really smart
athletic director, sharp athletic director. That's the question really that
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I think everybody has. Yeah, there's no question about it.
And this might take us on to a different tangent.
But if if you watched Mike Real Sports on HBO,
one of my favorite shows on HBO, Chris Hinton, former
offensive lineman and his wife an attorney, pose the question,
who is representing these young athletes? They don't have a
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union like professional athletes, and uh, they're gonna be a
lot of social questions that get raised this ball, especially
if somebody really gets hit hard with this illness. Yeah, absolutely,
putting them in front of the two, in front of
on the front lines to their detriment. I think is
going to be a question athletic directors are gonna have
to answer, Richard. I will come back talk about some
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Earlier this week where uh, the n c A was
front and center in Congress to debate a variety of
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different issues, notably the name, image and likeness issue that
has been a big topic within the n c A.
States like California and Florida have passed legislation to allow
these players to make money off of their name, image,
and likeness. And it is obviously an extremely complicated topic
with far reaching impact. Rich but I tend to side
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with the players if for no other reason that we're
in a free market economy and to deny them this
and suggest that they shouldn't be paid when the schools
are making money off of their jerseys and the like
is silly. It's been silly for a long time. Yeah,
I couldn't agree more. Um, you know, the philosophical question
(08:58):
that I would pose, Mike, I think we're on the
same side, but maybe just to the audience in general,
is where in our and I'm a capitalist by every
stretch of the imagination, where in our society do we
limit someone's ability to make money regardless of their age?
What would be your what would be your block? Uh?
(09:21):
Is it that you're concerned that schools like Clemson and
Ohio State and USC and Alabama will build a bigger
gap on the smaller schools that's happening anyway? You know
that that's that's Oh yeah, I mean the arms race
that happened a long time ago when it came to
facilities and your ability to prepare a kid for the NFL.
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That's been going on for a very long period of time,
and that's moving at warp speed. I just can't fundamentally.
I hate to say this, but it goes against my
American principles to say that I'm going to deny you. Now,
I've never really been a big fan of of let's
pay them. I still lean on the side of I
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think there's a lot of payment. There's a lot of
diviidend in that scholarship and many of the benefits that
comes with being a student athlete or a scholarship student athlete.
But for the n I L part of this equation,
if you can go out and capitalize and make money
off of your skills, your name, your image, your likeness,
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I thought all along that was the answer for these
young men and women in college athletics. So I have
absolutely no problem with it. Yeah, so there's a really
important thing that I'm going to read here, So give
me some time to read it. But Senator Corey Booker
to n c A President Mark Emerth. This happened earlier
this week at the hearing today regarding the governing body's
refusal for the full scale reform, most notably on athlete healthcare.
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It's a long statement, and give me some time to
read it. Now. The n c A is running to
us because states have tried to put in rules to
create more fairness. Seems only responsible that we as a
body should put first and foremost the education and health
and safety of our students, because you all are not
enforcing standards that give any assurances in interviews with athletes
themselves that this is happening. I gotta pause to let
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everybody know. Corey Booker is from New Jersey. He went
to high school with the best man at my wedding.
He was a standout running back, went to Stanford and
has been wildly successful outside of football since. I think
he knows very well the power of trip and everything
that it can bring him. But he goes on to say,
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you just made a comment that you have spoken to me.
This is what Mark Emmert said. You have not spoken
to me in six years since we've last been here.
You and I have mutual friends. They say very good
things about you as a person and as a leader.
I'm opening an invitation to you right now to meet
with a group of bipartisan senators, so we can start
to talk through about what your plans to address these
things that are patently unacceptable and put our student athletes
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in danger. In six years, we haven't had an opportunity
to talk about the serious health challenges facing student athletes
and the serious colleges to getting an education. And you
have the n c A since last we talked, has
made hundreds of millions of dollars. I'll stop it there.
He goes on and he dunks on him at the end. Uh,
But he can dunk on anybody when he's speaking from
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experience that really very few other senators probably have. There's
been others that have been uh, student athletes. But Corey
Book are really talking a lot of sense here. And
Mark Emmert kind of talking out of both sides of
his mouth and caught doing it. Yeah, which is which
is a very n ci A type of move out
of Mark Emmert. Um. You know again, I'll go back
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to the conversation Mike about who has the back of
these athletes. The parents due to a large extent, but
I don't think that their power or their reach is substantial.
No one is really representing these athletes. And you know,
I know crimea River. I mean, they have a lot
of advantages that that a lot of UM athletes are
a lot of students on campuses don't have. But if
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you have to look at the the amount of benefit,
the financial windfall, we're having this discussion about college football
quite frankly because of what they're able to bring to
those campuses. I mean, they are essential employees almost on
these campuses, because if we don't have football this fall,
we know what's going to happen to the coffers and
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to the other athletic programs on those various campuses. So
I think it's high time that we we provide more
support to student athletes, give them more leverage, give them
a greater voice. Gradually, we've been seeing that over the
past couple of years. I think that's gonna go uh
at a very fast pace over the next twelve months. Yeah,
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and I'll I can't finish this entire statement, but I'll
say he says. I conclude by saying that at a
time when our nation is going through a racial reckoning,
the fact that African Americans are dishproportionately represented in the sports,
that they bring in billions of dollars for what acts
like a cartel and yet can't even afford to have
meals when they're hungry and Canada, or to have their
families see their games. It's unacceptable. I think he says
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it really well. There will continue on to part two
of this political discussion because I think it was also
this happens on many topics. We just happened to be
the people talking about college football. But senators can't be
experts at every single topic. But it is odd when
you're talking about something that seems like a basic understanding
of what's going on. And Lindsay Graham in particular was
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called out by many people. He says, very few coaches
that get paid a lot of money. Very few coaches
get paid a lot of money that lose over time.
Roger Sherman of The Ringer states, the flagship university of
the state, which Linda Graham represents, South Carolina Side will
must Champ to a twenty eight million dollar contract extension
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in he's twenty six and twenty five is their head coach.
So I think that's a lot of money. Yeah, mediocrity
actually pays pretty well. Though. The first name that came
to mind for me he was how about Charlie Weiss
in the comments section of that tweet. He was off,
he was well represented. Yeah, Charlie Weiss, Uh he might.
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He has like sort of like that Bobby Bonia contract, um,
you know, being paid long after he left South Bend.
I think he was being paid into his tenure at
Kansas and and mediocrity followed Charlie Weiss wherever he was
as as a head coach. So uh yeah, now you
you bring up a good point. I mean, Lindsey Graham
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is a senator. I don't expect him to know everything,
but there are times in life when you'd be wise
to stay in your lane. And Lindsey Graham talking about
college football, um and really denigrating a lot of these
athletes and suggesting that then being able to capitalize on
their name, image and likeness somehow would be the downfall
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of the sport. Quite frankly, I think is ridiculous, uh
and and misguided. Now everybody from Alabama is going to
be tipped that I'm about to say this, but you
could argue it is the most relevant state in terms
of college football in the entire Union because South Carolina,
even though we just sort of took a shot at them.
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Has Clemson in it so really important that he should
know a little bit more. He says, you're going to
unleash holy hell on young college athletes if you don't
find some way to control people willing to buy a
player to come to a school. That's never happened before. Yeah,
that's that's been happening for generations. But but again, you know,
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the same trappings that are going to bring an athlete
to Clemson or to Ohio State or to one of
the you know, Texas, Oklahoma. Uh, that doesn't change. I
you know, it's going to be the same situation with
n I L in place. And again I don't see
the reason why you would deny these young student athletes
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an opportunity to financially capitalize. I I just fundamentally disagree
with that. Yeah, you see us to say that we
cannot have a bidding war for recruits. He punctuates it
with that, And I, as many people says that's going
on social media, horses out of the barn on that
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one for a long, long long time. But Wilkinson was
on the sidelines at Oklahoma when the horse left the
barn on that one. I don't want to get into
John Wooden to change sports. I want to get into
John Wooden and how u c l A built their
powerhouse in the sixties. But it's a long story, perhaps
for another segment or another basketball show altogether, Rich and
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I'll come back dive into football a little bit more.
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things we have talked about in general, George, is the
idea of maybe a focus on the bullpen this year, right,
because I'm gonna do some rough math. I know you
don't love math, George, but roughly right, we're talking about
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starters getting what maybe ten, maybe nine, maybe eleven starts
per year, and we've heard a lot of teams say
that at least in the first couple of times through
the rotation, they may only go four or five innings.
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because you are intimately involved in this award and it's
the Maxwell Award watch List. Now, these watch lists obviously
come out this time of year, they start to get
whittled down throughout the year. But you are Director of
College Awards at the Maxwell Football Club, So explain a
little bit more about the Maxwell Award, what exactly it
is to these college football players, and maybe how differ
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from some of the other accolades out there. Yeah, so quickly.
I've been affiliated with the club now for more than
ten years, same position, director of College Awards. So I'm
the guy who spends most of the offseason developing watch lists.
Quite frankly, watch lists are great. We have a lot
of kids on there. It's a it's a fun opportunity
to shine a light not just on the big stars,
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the Justin Fields and the Trevor Lawrences, but we go
deep into every conference. You get an opportunity to learn about,
you know, the Tavin Collins from Tulsa, the Jared Patterson
from Buffalo, the Chris Robison from Florida, Atlantic so for
those kids and those schools, it tends to be somewhat
of a celebratory effort. Just a couple of days ago,
on Friday, we release the watch list and and I
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literally go through the entire offseason. I do other stuff,
I spend time with my family, but you know, I
I go through. I go through everything I can, film, stats,
talking to scouts. It's it's a lot of fun for
me to call through this in formation and and boil
it down. A couple of weeks ago we had the
Banaric watch list come out. We have awards at the
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club that go from National High School Player of the Year, offensive, defensive.
We've had the likes of Trevor Lawrence uh uh in
the House over the Jacob Eason a few years back,
the Georgia slash Washington quarterback uh And we also have
NFL Player of the Year, NFL Coach of the Year,
College Coach of the Year, Try State Player, and Coach
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of the Year. So a lot of different awards, but
the one that's most topical right now is the Maxwell Award,
which is uh the the equivalent of the Heisman Trophy.
It's the best player in college football and so UH
we're I want to work my way backwards through this
list because there are ninety names, as you stated, so
there's a lot of different guys we can go to. Obviously,
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I'm going to talk about David Bailey. They're running back
in Boston College because that's what I do. It's fun
for me to do it on this show. So I'm
always going to mention the v C guys. But there
are four non skill position players, non offensive skill position
players on the list, and it's Pine Seul. You got
Marvin Wilson from from Oregon, Marvin Wilson from Florida State,
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Michael Parsons from Penn State, and then Stingley from l
s U. Now, the likelihood of these guys winning this
particular award, uh probably remains low, but as you stated,
there there on this list, and they are standout guys
that have at least at the very least have a
lot of scouts looking their way as potential first round picks. Yeah,
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I'm glad you brought that up because you know, you know,
you talk about how do you what's the difference between
you know, your awards, your club other awards. Potentially, we
really try to go by the letter of the law,
who is the most outstanding player in college football? So
I I understand the vast majority wind up being quarterbacks.
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Joe Burrow most recently last year, was the Maxwell Award winner.
Uh quarterbacks have reigned supreme over the better part of
the last twenty years. But it's important for me and
for the audience that first got to look at the
list on Friday, to point out the fact that really,
by the letter of the law, Pinay Seul probably is
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one of the top five players in college football. Willy
win the award. It's an uphill battle, you know. At
some point I'm heavily involved with the semifinalists list, which
which comes out hopefully at the end of October, if
we have a full college football season, and then we
turn it over to s I D S head coaches,
members of the media. It's close to a thousand voters,
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so it's completely out of my control. Would they give
the award to an offensive lineman? Will they have watched
that closely? Probably not, But it's still very important for
me again to let the audience know Panay Suil. You
mentioned Marvin Wilson, Michael Parsons, Derek Stinkley. These are truly
among the best players in college football entering this season. Yeah, look,
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there are a number of QB names on here that
we're familiar with. I you can scour all over this
list and you see the Ian Books of the World
and Shane Bushell, and obviously the guys are at the
top of the list, as you said, Fields and and others.
Keaton Slova's somebody that we talked about quite a bit,
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and some other names. You see DeVonta Smith from Alabama
and Naja Harris from Alabama. So there are standout names
on here, but you also have some other guys that
maybe aren't the first person you think of, Uh what
filer you have Khalil Pimpleton from Central Michigan. Guys that
are not the first names that you would necessarily expect
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to be on a list. But as the season progresses,
people will maybe learn a little bit about these guys
if they hadn't previously known about Khalil Pimpleton from Central Michigan. Yeah,
and and for me, Mike gets also, you know, again
we've never never had a in or from the mac
Uh will that change this year? From a betting man,
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probably not. But but I think these watch lists and
and listen, people go fall and they roll their eyes
and they'll they'll poke fun. I get it. Uh, there
is a marketing tool side of this. It's certainly it
helps to get the word out for our club, but
it's also a really good primer for fans of the
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NFL or the NFL Draft, because there are a lot
of kids on this list that maybe you haven't paid
attention to. But if you're a fantasy guy, if you're
an NFL draft guy, if you're a fan of any
one of the thirty two teams in the NFL, not
a bad idea to start paying attention to these kids,
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because they're more than just stats compilers. They're more than
just people that I pay attention to. NFL scouts are
watching these guys as well. Yeah, there's a couple of
guys on this list that you and I both I've
talked about in the past since said, you know what,
that guy really could have gone pro. I'm not sure
why it is that he came back. And one of
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those names that jumps out to me is Tayland Wallace
from Oklahoma State. It was thought that he could have
gone pro. He's back now at Oklahoma state. Anybody else
will talk about him for a moment, anybody else on
that list, and you're like, you know what, we really
was surprised this guy came back for another year. Yeah,
there were a couple. We might have talked about it
last month. There were a couple. And the position is
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really curious to me. Thayland Wallace not healthy at the
end of last year, missed I think the last five
or six games with an injury. Maybe that was a
factor for him. Still a surprise. I think he could
have been potentially a second round draft choice in April.
But running backs in particular, you know, the mindset right
now is running backs have only so many years. You
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want to, you know, keep that tread on the tire
for as long as you can, or at least until
you get to that point where you're being paid. So
Travis E. T n of Clemson and not j Harris
of Alabama, for me, were two big surprises. I thought
they'd go the Jonathan Taylor route and say we've we've
had three very successful seasons. Again, I think both of
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those kids were day one or day to draft choices
to decide to go back to school. It's a very
personal decision. Uh, those are powerhouse programs. I think in
the case of Travis c E t n he loves Clemson,
he loves the college experience. It meant something to him
to come back for the senior for his senior season,
beyond just his future in the NFL. Having said that, though,
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I was shocked when mid January rolled around and those
kids did not declare for the draft, and you got
guys like Clyde Edwards Hilaire gets drafted at the end
of the first round, you had a j. Dillon get
drafted in the second round. You could at least argue,
at the very least argue that they are on part
with those players and potentially even bigger talents Ettenne and
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Edwards Hilaire. There's a lot of comparisons to be made
about their verse utility at the very least. Yeah, no question. Uh,
you know, Travis is an outstanding receiver out of the backfield.
We even saw that from Naja Harris last year. There
was one play you probably saw it, Mike, or you've
probably looked at it on YouTube, you know, where he
showed both the power, the speed and and the overall athleticism,
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the explosiveness, where he just he ran through tacklers and
then hurdled tacklers and the kid is really the total package.
And and yeah, I don't know what more there is
for him to gain, but I like it. I mean,
I'm a college guy, I'm a college finger. So you
know what he wants. We get a chance to see him,
hopefully for one more season. He wants to spend another
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year in Tuscaloosa. You know, maybe it has something to
do with education. Maybe there's an opportunity to get closer
to a degree. I think it's all positive as long
as obviously there's not some kind of a serious illness
and that that kind of sucks when that happens in
your senior year. Yeah, of course. Uh. A couple of
more names here, maybe from schools that are a little
bit off the radar. You know. Puca Williams, running back
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out of Kansas. I think I think is a name
that when I looked down through Kansas is not a
not a school's name that gets on there very often. Obviously,
less Miles is doing his best to turn that around.
We see Josh Johnson, the running back from Louisiana. Monroe
is yet another name. Dustin Crumb a QB out of
Kent State. We talked about another uh MAC player earlier.
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Names like that. It's good to see them on the list.
It gives it look, it gives the schools. As you said,
there's a Marcony component, but it gives the schools a
little bit of a shot. And be like, see, I've
been telling you to their friends. At the very least,
if you're a fan, you say, see, I've been telling
you Dustin Crumb is legit, or I've been telling you
Puca Williams is as good a running back as a
lot of these other guys to be mentioned on the
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same list. I don't want to I don't want to
overhype it, but there is really a human side to this.
I to the business for twenty years. I've gotten to
know a lot of these kids, their families, they're high
school coaches. When they get an opportunity to be mentioned
in the same breath as the kids from the major schools,
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the Clemsons and the Alabama's, and you are a Puca
Williams from Kansas, or you're playing in the Sun Belt
like a Josh Johnson, it's a big deal. I mean,
I've seen it personally, I worked with the s I
d s, the s I d s and the universities,
and the fan base is Mike. They absolutely love it.
So there's a business side of this, but there's a
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human side for me to have an opportunity to shine
a light to champion these kids who realistically Dustin Crumb
twenty t D passes a couple of picks last year player.
Is he gonna win our award? No, it's probably not
gonna happen, but now is his opportunity to celebrate. I
think it's all positive. But I started the whole segment saying, like, hey,
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David Bailey from BC, he made it like he's not
even as good as A. J. Dillon. I watched guys,
But it's fun. It's fun for me to talk about
and I'm gonna talk smack to people whose schools maybe
don't have somebody on there. Richardson nor ex side as well. Right,
so real quick, you can't pick Fields or Lawrence or Sewell.
Who's the best pro pro prospect on this list? Big
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Keaton slovas fan after just one year, I'm a believer.
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Sports grid dot Com Back on the grid, Me and
Rich talking about it's a couple of different topics here.
One is one. I'll let Rich set it up. But
you put out a sweet last week which you got
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a little bit of. The second one you got more
heat on on the first, but we'll take the We'll
take the first one as it goes And you said here,
if the Q starting QB goes down, these eight schools
are in the best position to handle it. I'm just
gonna rip them off. Well, actually i'll before we rip
off the schools, explain why you threw that tweet out
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there first. What's your expectation for this season? Yeah? So,
I mean, these are the things I think about before
I put a tweet out, And I always saying to
you during the break you probably go through the same thing.
I I love Twitter, and I love the communication with
with other fans who are passionate. Yeah, it's a love
hate relationship. It depends like some people who just come
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at me like cursing and stuff like that. It doesn't
bother me when people do that. I've been cursed at
my whole life. It's just the ignorance. It's like, I'll
have a debate about anything, but you know, bring something
to the table, you know, don't just you know, don't
just curse at me. It's ridiculous. But here, here was
the impetus of that tweet was I think this is
this is obviously going to be a unique season in
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college football in the NFL. And not only I'm not
suggesting that you know, they're gonna be qbs that necessarily
come down with COVID or maybe they will, but there's
also the issue of we've never seen such a fractured
off season in terms of conditioning. Mike. So, you know,
these kids spent large portions of the off season where
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they would normally be with their strength and conditioning coach
or on their campus and having specific programs to strength
and weight and flexibility, versatility, whatever the case may be. Um,
these kids were home, you know, so we we don't
know what their durability is going to look like. We
don't know what they're conditioning is going to look like.
So I think now more than ever, depth is going
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to be a big factor. So I started thinking maybe
it was the weekend before last, like, you know, who
are the cores? Who are the teams that if a
quarterback goes down, they can key the train on the tracks?
And so I was sort of the uh, the brainchild
of that week. Yeah, so we got eight schools that
you ripped off here, what we want to take him?
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One at a time, We'll go with. Yeah, George's first.
So Georgia obviously has some depth here. They just landed
a couple of guys this offseason, so they're the team
that will be most prepared if somebody were to go down. Uh,
So explain their depth chart a little bit for everybody
out there. Yeah, that that would not have been the
case had it not been for um J. T. Daniels
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being declared eligible for this season. He's the USC former
USC starting quarterback. Um spent his whole freshman season as
the starter for Troy, was the starter at the beginning
of last year, injured in the opener, lost for the season,
and then the legend of Keith Slovis was born. But J. T.
Daniels is a legit blue chip quarterback who was starting
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for one of the premier programs out west UH and
now will either be the starter UH for for Todd
Monkins offense or be the backup to Jamie Newman. So
two high profile transfers. Newman comes over from Wake Forest,
Daniels comes over from USC. So UH Kirby smart in
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a really good position, better position than people would have expected,
considering they unexpectedly lost Jake from to the NFL. All
else equal, Um, I mean, George is gonna win so
many games. Can you see a possibility of Daniel's sort
of out playing getting in there on his own merit
outside of injury to displace Newman. Yeah, my money is
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on Jamie Newman. I just think he's the better all
around quarterback. I don't think it's a popular opinion. It's um.
It's funny. People I've spoken to UM seemed to think,
you know, he was the USC starter. I think they
dismissed the fact that Jamie Newman was the starter at
Wake Forest. They had this mentality of big fish, small pawn.
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Demon Deakins who cares small a C C campus program
out of Winston Salem. Big whoopee was good uh down
there in uh in North Carolina. He's legit. I think
he's a legitimate NFL quarterback, great arm talent, UH, solid
athlete outside of the pocket. I think he's gonna be
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a star for Georgia UM J T. Daniels. And maybe
it's a little bit unfair Mike, but because he was
a freshman, still young, still growing. But you know, Joe
Leasy and I talked about a lot in two thousand
and eighteen the progression that we had hoped to see
throughout his freshman season. You know, oftentimes young quarterbacks, once
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we get to late October November into the bowl game,
you're starting to see a kid who's playing like a sophomore.
I didn't see that. I don't think Joe did either
from J. T. Daniels. And then we only got one
game out of him last year. So I think Jamie
Newman is the more advance aunts quarterback, and I'm really
bullish on his future, not just in two thousand and twenty,
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but on Sundays as well. It's like how the legend
of Sam Donald was born really at the end of
his freshman years when he proved to people like, you
know what, this guy might be a star remains be
seen at the NFL level. So keep going through the
next few Arkansas State comes in. Uh, is that Arkansas State?
Or apple Aga State? Um? So it's Arkansas, Arkansas State,
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Boise State, Miami. The next three. Yeah, you know, in
Arkansas State. And it's funny because I I love people
come after me and they think it's uh, you know,
I'm I'm looking for tweets or retweets, um or likes
from from the Red Wolves fan base. I don't do that.
I mean, that's generally my opinion, some times wrong and
hopefully oftentimes I'm right. But Arkansas State, the concept of
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the tweet was the idea was who is most likely
to not skip a beat if they're starting quarterback goes down,
and in Arkansas State had that. Here's the perfect example, Mike.
So that's exactly what happened to Blake Anderson's team last year.
Logan bonn Or was the starter, uh tent t d
passes one pick through the first month of the season,
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and then he did go down and Lane Hatcher transfer
from Alabama comes over and throws twenty seven touchdown passes,
so that the two compared uh combined for thirty seven
touchdown passes did not skip a beat. Lane Hatcher was spectacular,
but Blake Anderson has said in the offseason that an
injury is not enough of a reason for a kid
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to lose his job. So we're gonna go back to
probably where we were last year, where it's Logan bond
Or starting, and the kid who threw twenty seven touchdown
passes and was all Sunbelt now is a backup. So
that's the reason why they're number two. Surprised in some ways,
you medn't see a transfer out of that school, right
That has been that has been the modus operandi for
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a lot of quarterbacks that felt like they should be
starting in other areas. So let's skip around the list
a little bit. I mean, it's not surprising to see
some of the names on here, like Miami they have
Derrick King there. USC. You just mentioned Keaton Slovis. But
despite losing JT. Daniels, if Keaton Slovis goes down, god forbid,
USC is still in a good spot, right yeah. And
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the reason for that, well, there's a reason for everything.
I do. It makes it so much easier because I
get questioned all the time, and and you know the
reason for that was is we saw Matt Think last year.
You know, because um Jack Sears transferred to Boise State,
so Boise State has better depth. J T. Daniels transfers
to Georgia, as we just mentioned. But Matt Fink is
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still in Los Angeles. And what he did last year
when Keaton Slopus was hurt is he led USC to
a huge victory over Utah in Salt Lake City. So
we've had an opportunity to see him in that chance
to be the starter, to have a big spot light opportunity,
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and he excelled at it. So that was my mindset.
Matt Think now, realizing he doesn't have to compete with
Jack Sears, he thought about transferring. There was talk he
was gonna go to Illinois, but J T. Daniels left.
So I like math it perfect veteran quarterback behind the
young star, perfect backup situation for Clayholton. All right. I
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hesitated to talk about Oregon because they're dealing with my
old QB. But Oregon is on this list. Is he
The starter is brown? The starter is Brown? Not the starter.
That's one of the questions they'll answer. But depth behind
him obviously. Yeah, that's a great question because you know
Oregon is here. Because I think it's going to be
Anthony Brown as as the backup. I think Tyler Show
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is going to take over. He's been in that program
for the past couple of years. Mario Cristo Ball groomed
him as Justin Herbert's backup to eventually take over. It's
built a lot like Justin Herbert, a big athletic kid.
We'll see what he does with his accuracy, his ability
to read defenses. I see it as Tyler being the starter.
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You bring in Anthony Brown from Boston College, perfect backup situations,
starting experience. I don't know your feelings. You know you're
closer to the BC program, Mike than I am. But
when he was healthy, there were times that he flashed,
and there were times I was really impressed with his
passing ability Anthony Brown. That is, so if he's pressed
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into action, if Tyler goes down and it's Anthony Brown
on the field, I think Oregon's in a lot better
situation than say, you know, the Clemson program, whose Ohio
State's backup you know, Ohio State had two seniors last
year behind Justin Fields. Now they've gotten extremely young. So
at least Anthony Brown is a known commodity. Yeah. I
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think he dealt with some injuries while he was there.
I think there are times when BC quarterbacks are at
the mercy of what their strengths are in terms of
team strengths and last couple of years. Obviously that's a j.
Dillon and the offensive lineman. These are guys that are
getting drafted on award watched lists, second round draft picks,
(41:10):
first round draft picks last year with Chris Lynstrom, so
they you're beholden to what is the strength of the team. Um.
I've never thought BC, frankly since Matt Ryan graduated to
have much of a dynamic offense the Tyler Murphy year,
notwithstanding when he ran for a thousand yards at QB.
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But there's a lot worse positions to be and then
to have Anthony Brown as your backup QB. Look. I
for the sake of the starter, I hope he doesn't
get much of a chance, but if he does, I
hope he makes the most of it. He's not a
pro prospect by any stretch in my mind. I don't
think he's accurate enough, but um, good for him. And
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let's wrap it up with b y U. I know
I skipped overall miss and Boise and Miami, so their
fans can hate on me, but let's wrap it up
with b y U because they made the list as well. Yeah,
Zack Wilson, his lack of dourability is a big reason
why b y U winds up on the list. I
think I have them at number eight. I think I
think they were at the bottom of the list, but
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last season bottom not so bad. Hundred and thirty. Yes,
it's actually it's actually a pretty good position. But three
different current b y U quarterbacks Mike have started and
one games as starters. Jar Jarren Hall is the more
versatile of the quarterbacks. Baylor. What last name would you
(42:35):
expect a b y U quarterback to be? Baylor Romney?
Yet another Romney coming out of b y U country.
So Baylor Romney played really well last year in four games,
lad b y U to an upset win over Boise States.
So you've got three quarterbacks with starting experience behind Zack Wilson.
It's Zack Wilson's job. Zach Wilson is a member of
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that long Maxwell Award watch us. But he's got to
understudies with experience behind him. Yeah. Well, since we two
have another minute to go, how about out of Boise
Miami or all miss You picked the school and we
can expand upon that. Well, let's do Miami since the
King King is getting all the pub who would have
(43:20):
been playing there dr King and not transferred. Yeah, another
school that lost the transfer. Jarren Williams started some games
last year, decided to transfer. But Nicozy Perry is back.
And one of the things I was looking for is competence, Yes,
but I'm looking for experience. Nakozy Perry has almost a
full season of starting experience. The folks I talked to
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at Miami close to that program say he's had his
best off season so far with the program, despite the
fact that it's been abbreviated. So you know, I want
to back up at this level, who has played, who
has started, who has faced good competition. That's Nakozy Perry. Uh,
that's the reason why he's here. Quickly. Boise State has
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Jack Sears, the USC quarterback, and Chase Cord, who started
when Hank bock Meyer went down last year, and old
Miss and Lane Kiffin have two starting quarterbacks in uh
John Reese Plumley and Matt Coral, both of whom started
numerous games last year. Yeah, so we bounced around that
list a little bit obviously. As Rich said, it's intended
to give people a sense of what team won't miss
(44:24):
a beat if the QB goes down this year more
than any other when you see qbs go down for
a variety of different reasons, or at least have to
take a game or two off if they test positive
for COVID. I think that's an interesting tweet to sift
through and hope you enjoyed it. We're gonna come back
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sports screen back on the grid, closing out this hour
of Football Full Circle. My friend Rich dear Mannello. He
is the co host of College Football today and he's
having a little fun with people on Twitter last week.
And I saw it, and there's a lot of people
that hated you for it, but such as the nature
(45:33):
of that type of communication, but it was an interesting topic.
And you said, here, you're a top recruit, which current
coach would you most want to play for? Try not
to think trying to think only about the coach and
not the school he's at right now, because obviously these
guys can move around. Most of these guys are in place,
maybe not Matt Campbell, but Lincoln Riley, David Shaw, Scott Frost,
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Herm Edwards, Matt Campbell, David Cutcliffe, Jeff Halfley is conspicuously
absent from this list, but characters might That's right, that's right.
It's a two eight limit, is pesky, but uh so
give me your thought process. You really got a couple
of minutes. But why these guys and not saying the
other names, just pure personality And and that was what
(46:17):
I wanted to invite, uh, you know, people and the
people on the Twitter spear to to join me. And
I got a lot of feedback. The one that was
most interesting was tons of support for p J Fleck.
P J Fleck has done a remarkable job. This was
not about whether I think he's a good coach, just
I know my personality. I don't need a lot of motivation.
I don't really react to rah Ra. During the days
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when I was a young athlete, raw Rod just didn't
work for me. It was unnecessary. So the row of
the boat and the PJ. Fleck type of personality I
think would eventually great on my nerves. But that's me.
I like more of the cerebral coach. That's why you
see David Shaw, you see uh, David Cutcliffe. I love
the herm edwords model. I'm not just going to prepare
(47:01):
you to be a football player, but I'm gonna prepare
you for the rest of your life. So there was
a lot of thought that went into it, uh, and
I got a lot of great feedback. But the most
interesting thing was UH, not having p J. Fleck and
having Scott Frost from his same division really rankled a
lot of people in Minnesota. Yeah. Look, Scott Frost got
a lot of cash right, and he was a national
(47:21):
championship winnings quarterback. He coached a team to an undefeated season.
Now he's back in his home state trying to win
it all. So good stuff there. I think Ryan Day
will grow on people over time. UH, people will start
to learn a little bit more about his personality. I
think he will be interesting. I think BC missed a
golden opportunity uh to hire him when he back when
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he was the coordinator. There so a little fun with
Rich on this list on behalf of Rich Jarmanella, the
co host of College Football Today, and my producer Brian Rokowski.
Always well prepared. I hope you enjoyed watching this edition
of Football Full Circle. We'll see again next time on
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