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February 15, 2024 18 mins

Morgan Massengill joins Caroline on this week’s “Call Caroline” bonus episode! They answer listener voicemails, including a message from a woman who is dealing with mother-in-law drama.

The ladies give their two cents on how they would handle her situation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At carl Line. She's a queen and talking a song.
She's getting really not afraid to field episode, so just
let it flow. No one can do. We acquired carl Line.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Is sound for Caroline.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
We're back.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's a bonus episode of Monday's episode.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
We had Morgan mass and Gill, the president of the
National Podcast Network, Uh huh, the manager of Bobby Bon's,
former producer of the Bobby Bone Show.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We have Morgan with us and we had quite the
interview on Monday.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We covered a.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Lot of We covered so much ground you were wondering
what was gonna go down. I mean she got crowned.
She has a tiara and a crown and a cape.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
That happened.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
We talked about to sucking.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That was a lot from left field, and we really
got into that for a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think I brought that up. Would you did?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Shocking for me? But yeah, it was fun. Go check
it out, check it out. Check this out first, but
then check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
So we have some.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Burning questions and a lot of you guys are big
fans of Morgan, as we all are.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And you have three of you.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
You call in and you have some big questions for
mid Days with Morgan. She answers your burning questions, and
so we have decided to meld the two mid Days
with Morgan and just one more nudge to make this
a podcast. We're putting in that out there in the universe. Yeah,
and we're going to.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Answer some of these burning questions for Morgan and see
what she has to say.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
So welcome to this bonus episode of Call Caroline.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And what you have to say too.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Oh yes, but we'll listen to Morgan first. Shit, Abby, I.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Have been together with my husband now husband for over
a decade, and when I was very pregnant with our
first I had gone out to brunch with my mother
in law and we've always had a rough relationship. But
she at the end of the conversation she said to me,

I am not.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Excited for this child. Ooh, And I was like, what, Like, I.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Get being nervous, but I was nervous. This was my
first and you're just the grandma. And so it has
been difficult ever since. She doesn't have a great filter
and we don't connect well. So don't tell your pregnant

person of any sort that you're not excited for their child.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Seems rude, seems rude, Okay, a little speechless.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I was like saying, I'm not excited for you to
be married to my husband or my child, my son
or something, but like to not.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Be excited for the child.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
A child is a true gift from God. Like that's
on a whole other level.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
That sounds like some toxic family stuff and I am
not above.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
If there's a sister.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Hmmm, that's hard because it is your husband's mom.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
But she got to her heart is dark to feel
that way, you.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Know, that energy around. If it were me, i'd be
cutting ties. I would be cutting I think so setting
some really firm boundaries and that would be a talk
between me and my husband of and he needs to
support you, yes, because when you get married, that's your family.

You're becoming one. You're the unit and everything else is secondary,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
And if anybody in your family, regardless of how they
feel about your relationship with their person that they're like,
you know, protective over, if they can't like see the
gift of a child, then that's, like you said, Marian,
you got to have some serious boundaries.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think what it is, Oh my gosh, I'm about
to make some people mad. Okay, I think some moms
have this tendency to idolize their sons so much for
whatever reason, because I think maybe they don't really like
their husband, maybe didn't treat them the best, or so.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
They get all their like male attentions.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
So they're like raising this son up to be what
they really wanted their husband to be for them, and
then they just have these super high expected and this
is look, I know it's case by case, but they
have these super high expectations of who's gonna marry their son,
and you see it. Not every mother in law is
like this, thank God, but you see it where it's

like you're his mom, you can't be married to him,
like so sorry, I hate to bring it to you,
and I'm his wife, Like I just think I don't
know the inner dynamics of their relationship. Who's the good person,
who's the quote unquote bad person. Maybe there isn't, maybe
there's a mix of both. But if someone wasn't excited

for a child Kyle I'm bringing into.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
The world, that is a true angel.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, noted, don't show up at the hospital because he
ain't being a midded end to visit, Like, that's not
the energy that we're bringing the next generation in.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
On, because those.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Kids pick up on so much and that negative energy
is so toxic for a child. Like, regardless of how
you feel about your mother in law, if she's gonna
be talking shit about you to your kid when you're
not around, or.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Just not even loving this kid, like already deciding that
she's not going to embrace this child.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, do you like your mom in law?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
She's the sweet She's a sweetheart, Mary. Hey, Mary, she's
probably listening. She is a shout out Mary.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
She's about as sweet as anyone I've ever met. Just
a pure little angel soul. I would really love that
if I get married one day, I really want to
be super tight with my mother in law.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I just I would love to just you know.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Besties be besties, do things together, go to the movies.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
You kind of like Taylor's with Donna Kelsey.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, I mean yeah, okay, you're more thinking like Goldie
and Kate Hudson stuff. Yeah yeah, something like that, not
like chest bumping like on the field after But maybe
I don't know. Never say never, say never, But I
just think also back to this question. First off, I
want to get to the source of like your relationship.
Make sure you're in check with your husband, like he

needs to be fully like boundaries up with his mom,
like because he is now a father. And if she,
like you said, Morgan, is going to put this negative
energy of not even wanting this child to be born,
Like he.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Needs to be protecting.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
He's got to protect his family and his child. And like,
I honestly think.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
If she could say that to your face, like she
might have to be cut out. Yeah, I don't know
strong boundaries because you have to protect your child's well
life is sure.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I get they say blood is thicker than water, but
if no one you're going to be an asshole.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Blood is making you miserable and putting you in fight
or flight all the time, wishing your child wasn't born.
Then blood needs to check itself.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, well it needs to joke. Yeah, you need to
get a pulse on that heartbeat. So that's my thoughts
on that. Agreed. Do we have another caller? Don't get
us started.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
We got our first family dog a year ago. She's
one and a half now. We love her fully potty trained,
not having to be kindled during the day anymore. Or
soup's excited. Two weeks ago, my husband came home with
another dog as a surprise quotations, And now we're back

in this full on new baby puppy slash phase, and
it's terrible. She's having to go out the middle of
the night, super pod about life, and is not letting
our other one sleep by letting us sleep, and is
also like now Kin during the day and stressing out

our older dog. And we're having to take her out
in the middle of the night in the mornings, you know,
full on new puppy. Fine, however, I say we but
this is me. My job is more flexible than my husband's.
Am I crazy for being pissed?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
No? Okay, now, so it sounds like the husband surprised
her with this puppy.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
For her to take care of, for her to take
care of.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Congratulation, Thank you for this cute obligation, honey. I wish
she was already fully satisfied with the first puppy in
a great spot.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Thank you for now giving me something to take care of.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And just the way she set it up too, I'm
glad she gave us the context of we just went
through all this with the dog that we love and
we've got this dog trained and out of left field.
He comes in with this cute puppy, but he's not
taking care of it.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm taking care of it.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, you don't get something to pawn it off to
pawn it off, or you really just don't give somebody
with something living and breathing unless they are on board.
This happened to me once.

Speaker 3 (09:09):

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, So in high school it was like our senior year. Megan,
my twin sister, kept begging for a puppy for Christmas,
and I was in going off to college mode. It
wasn't time yet, but it was about time, and I
was like, I do not want it all.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
But that means Megan's going off for college. She yeah,
I'm like, what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (09:26):

Speaker 3 (09:26):
So y'all going to get a joint puppy?

Speaker 5 (09:28):

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't where you're going to College's you going to
split this puppy up?

Speaker 1 (09:32):

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Listen, okay, Megan. I'm to team Meghan, but this is
what I feel like I might be having to do.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I mean, we're seventeen. She really wants a puppy, and
growing up, our parents did get us a lot of
joint gifts, being twins. That just comes with the territory.
And I think I specifically said, hey, she's getting a
puppy I don't want, like, not for me. And what
do you know? On Christmas Day, this cute little puppy

comes running in as our point gift.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's not the gift you wanted.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, because I understood how much work it was going
to be.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
It was such a cute dog. And of course morning
of I'm like, you know what is freak cute?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I love it?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Freak cute.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Her name was Chloe, and.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
What kind of dog she was?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Like a maulty pooh. She was one of those little
white dogs that gets dingy real quick, that looks like
the one hundred years old with the like the brown
streaks under their eyes. Hey, that first Christmas she was
shine and bright, she was pure white, fresh fur.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
She was a nightmare. Oh great mare. Quickly became I
was pulling all the way, not all the weight, but
I don't want.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
To be pulling any weight. So to be pulling any
at all, I was like, I did not even want
this dog. So and I love dogs. I have a
dog now that's a decade old. Her name is Andy.
She's the best and I made that decision to get hurt,
which was important, but I just remember being I'm not
keeping up with this dog, like I'm going off to college.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
We ended up giving her away.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
We gave her to my mom and that ended up
being perfect. Like, but again, this is why you don't
gift people with an animal that have said they don't
want an animal. It's just such a response. And my
mom loved Chloe. She she just died like two years ago.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
But so maybe you guys.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Were supposed to get Chloe so it could get to
your mom because she maybe wouldn't have gotten one.

Speaker 5 (11:29):

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think that it worked out the way it needed to,
but it doesn't always work out that way. A lot
of dogs end up in shelters because people don't help them.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
So so sad.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Don't be gifted people dogs without you know, their consent.
That's important.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
So I feel you on this.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I have a new puppy as we speak, and I
was the one that wanted the puppy.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Was my grand idea.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I thought, well, actually, I was like I've talked to
those for us, coming kind of off the miscarriage, and
I was like really wanting like a baby type thing,
and Sonny was. We went to our nieces and nephew's
house and they had five five kids and like a
million dogs, and they'd just gotten this cava poo and
I was like, and I'm usually like, don't don't shop,

don't shop, go to shelters exactly. Yeah, but this situation
was like there was one kava poo left and it
was at this breeder's house up the street, and I
was like, We're just gonna go get the dog.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like I didn't even know anything about it.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Besides this one dog at their house was so adorable,
and I was like, we're just gonna get this dog.
And we did, and then immediately it was the sweetest dog.
Everybody loved it. But then it's like, oh my god,
here comes potty training. Oh my god, here comes eating
your furniture. Oh my god, here comes like walking out
all the time, and you have to create it and
it's just like, all of a sudden, you get this
whole new wave of stress because you're back to just

like being fully attached to dog schedule admin. It's a
lot around the clog kind of s and where we
started pooping in being in the house all the time,
and I was like, I can't believe we got this dog.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I can't believe we have a dog. Everything was great.
We had Sugar, she was perfect, Our little ecosist was perfect.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
But you know what, I will give you a ray
of hope.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Now we're like a few months in rub Be seven
months old and she's getting it. Her bladder's gotten bigger.
She could sleep from ten thirty to six in the morning.
We're not having to wake up.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It goes fast. She's so cute. The puppy phase goes fast.
But you were an active participant in that decision.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, is the point.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
At the end of the day, I am a firm believer.
Like when I got Andy, I was still in college.
It was my last semester. That semester we talked about Monday.
I really wasn't sleeping. It wasn't a great time to
get a dog, But I got Andy. When you got
this job as an intern, h Yeah, so you were
waking up and driving here at three in the morning,
working all days.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Of body training and a body.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Training animal, and then going to classes in the afternoon
and nights, and that's when you thought it would be
the right time to get the dog.

Speaker 1 (13:49):

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't that sounds really like the right time.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It wasn't. And she actually I got her off of
Craigslist back when Craigslist was still not too creepy, too scary.
But it was this family. Again, adopt, don't shop, but
I sometimes feel like I sort of adopted her because
it was this family that bought her for a Christmas
present for their kids.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh, this feels familiar, feels familiar.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
And then they didn't want her.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Also feels familiar. Also feels familiar.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And the mom was like, I'm allergic, which Andy says,
shit too, and I'm like, you're not. She ay, she,
but she had medical issues that I found out after
I got her.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
She's a pricey puppy.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
She needed a couple surgeries. So yeah, I stuck through
all that got her the surgeries. And she's my little companion,
my little pal in life.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And there have been.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Seasons where I'm like, girl, you are cost him too
much or this or that. But I'm a firm believer
when you bring a little animal into your life actively,
you make that decision, you make that call, you see
it through.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
And that's why and that's why it's hard for you,
because you actually are by default having to see it
through because it's now in your family.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So that's how you're resentful, and you should be if.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
To the three men listening to this episode, and don't
buy your wife a puppy, Well, puppy your wife, he's
already taking care of the kids all day.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Don't and you and the house and everything else.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Unless she specifically says, honey, a golden Retriever would be nice,
don't do it.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Don't do it, don't know it, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You want to get laid, don't get a puppy.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
You want to pull that hairback.

Speaker 1 (15:23):

Speaker 4 (15:24):
If you want your wife to be excited to see you,
then don't get her puppy, because if you get her puppies,
she's gonna be super tired and the puppy's gonna be
shitting on the floor and she's not gonna think that
your your shit don't stick.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We are really just covering all the hard hitting topics today,
the meaning of live, how to make relationships work. I
feel good about it.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I feel great about it. So you're not wrong to
feel that way. Yeah, not at all, not at all.
Be pissed, yep, I would.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Honestly probably get a little turd and put it like
somewhere that you know he's gonna steptep on.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Nothing's worse than stepping on dog poop when you wake up.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I did that the other day. I stepped right on
a pile of dog in our room.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And it's just it really actually, because when we first
got Ruby, we thought.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh, let's just let her sleep in the bed, because that'd.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Be great because you know me, Michael Sonny sleep in
the bed, Sugar, the dog sleeps on a dog map.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
We're like, we can't leave Ruby out. Let's just put
the bit.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
She peed on the bed and then pooped on the
floor and I stepped right in the poop, and I
was like, barefoot, barefoot. Remember the toe sucking comments on
the previous episode. That's flooding back right now. I know
Michaelson does all.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Dang it, man, Well that's what you get.

Speaker 5 (16:34):

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Why are you putting an un potty trained talk in
the bed.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I thought she was just gonna be potty trained.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's not I thought she just figured out because she
wanted to sleep in the bed with us. I love
your positivity.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I love you you have.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You were definitely a cup half full until you dump
my water out and then I'm and step and ship
and then I'm like.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
What did we get this?

Speaker 1 (16:53):

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't want to talk anyway, So I feel you
actually really totally well where do we go?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Thank you for tuning in to call Caroline and Middays
with Morgan that was so fun during this bonus episode.
Make sure you call and leave more questions so we
can answer your burning questions on the bonus episode.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let me break this down for you. So there's a
little link in the show notes. So if you look
at the description right now, there's a link.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And you click that where where are we looking?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like on it iTunes, on Instagram, say you're listening on
iHeartRadio or you're listening on Spotify, click on the episode
and where it pulls up the description underneath, so not
just the title, but the description, and then there's a
link to leave a call. And by call, it's not
actually a call. It's like a little voice memo recording system.

You just recordable voice memo that works super easy, so easy,
and you can even hear it back before you send it,
so you can redo it if you can redo it
if you don't like your cadence or how you told
the story or whatever. And it's so easy, and it's
so fun to react to these so and it's so
fun to hear yourself get the question. Because you probably
want to know the answer. You're gonna get a great answer. Yeah,

we're gonna give you. We're gonna if we're gonna do anything,
it's good. We're gonna entertain. Thank you for doing it.
We'll see your next things. We're gonna thank you for
your podcast debut.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
How was it?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I am great.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I would know you're gonna have a vulnerability hangover or anything. No, great,
this was wonderful.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was scared because you've made some people cry in
the past, but you didn't make me cry.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
So maybe you're just a stone cold, fox cold killer.
I've been called a heartless bitch.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
All right, till next time, b
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