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May 1, 2024 34 mins

Kelly talks to Master Astrologer, Marvin Wilkerson, for your May astrology update. Marv breaks down the energy of the Taurus New Moon with main themes of finding peace and pleasure with the present moment and emphasis on greater good for all versus one.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's
Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello, marv Oh, Kelly.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's May. Can you believe it?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's moving faster.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Moving fast. We are officially out of I think retrograde season.
There's no planets in retrograde card.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, my goodness, was that a tough retrograde.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
It sure was the toughest. You have, Like an understatement,
it has been a wild time. We've had all the
eclipses Mercury retrograde, so everything was feeling like it was
kind of moving in slow motion. And I think hopefully,
and this is what you're here to tell us today,
maybe we'll be moving forward at least as we have

this Taurust new moon coming, which is what we're going
to discuss today. So let's just get into it. Tell
us what's going to be happening.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, you know, Taurus is the antithesis to Ares. I mean,
you know, like we couldn't our mind was so rapid
and fast, and all we could do was stay in
the moment. We couldn't think through things and process things normally.

It was just you know, you had to stay in
the moment. Yeah, and then it was okay because then
you can follow your instincts. But so it was kind
of tough. And now as we move into Tarus, we're
going to be moving into much more of a laid

back kind of you know. Tarus is the areas is
going out and exploring and you know, leading the way
and leading the charge. And Taurus is say, wait a minute,
I think I want to settle down right here. I
want to make the best that I can make right here.

So they're kind of a plant themselves and then they
make the best of their surroundings. And so I like
the way that you know Taurus. That first sign there
is is it's I mean, your battle weary and areas

and so uh, you kind of lose that desire for
competition and get back to a little more quieter, secure world.
And that's Tarus. So you know, Taurus is about survival.
Taurus is about accumulation of resource that allows us to

survive at our best that are that we can. So
it's a it's much more of a laid back and
enjoy all of the positive things of the world. The

world has a lot to offer if you're just you know,
between nature and the things that we can do and
explore and enjoy. So it's much more of about you know,
what makes me happy, and so you're staying in that
place of I mean you know, you're staying in the

place of self sufficiency, self reliance. This is all about
my pleasures, my stuff, my enjoyment, and so this is
how we survive. And Taurus teaches us that lesson that

not to look for any kind of dependency outside of ourselves. Okay,
it's really important.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, well that was kind of Aries took us there
a little bit, right, because Aries is very strong, willed, determined,
like a.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Go got a sword and a shield. They're ready to battle.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
They're definitely ready to fight. Yeah. So tourists comes in
with that individual energy, but in a much more chill way.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, you know, calm nature. Nothing really gets them upset.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's why Aries stresses me out so much, because I'm
a tourist rising. So there's certain energies that I think
you start to identify as you get older, and it
specifically if you are more in tune with the astrology.
And We've always talked about this, but like I bump
up against Aries and I'm like whoa, because it's so
much intensity for me, that energy. So now we're moving

into this season of just really kind of like, isn't
a tourist all about beauty and sensuality and things that
are just really luxurious kind of feeling.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
About a doubt and and where it's it's the ability
to enjoy life as you as you have it, as
you experience.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It, so in the present moment.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
In the present moment, okay, without looking to a relationship
too to lean on for stuff, for feelings, for any
kind of any kind of psychology or doubts or shames

or guilts. It's all left with Tarus.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, tar is.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Just about there there. I guess you could say, you know,
I like the way this eclipse, I mean, not eclipse Chucks,
this new moon is about, Uh, the Empress and the
Empress and the to row is about is about visualizing

the world you want m and you know, looking out
into the world and seeing all the possibilities. So that's
the creativity side of the end, Uh, the Adpress, Empress,

empress looking for the abundance, looking for the pleasures and
the joys of life. And of course, you know, I
always liked the story of when you see a little Taurus. Child,
don't be trying to take their toys. They don't share toys.

Those are mine. It's mine.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's stubborn.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
They could be covered up with toys, but another little
child comes along to play with one that they aren't
playing with, they snatch it back. That's my toy. That's
that's the epitome of Tarus. This is mine, okay, And
that's what we're going to go through, uh this month

is we're going to uh live the life of a
romantic adventure. It's it's love. It's rule by Venus, so
it's love. It's pushing out love out into the world.
So it's it's like finding what we truly want. It's

like uh searching for our romantic idealism.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Within our own lives though or is it specifically romantic
it's or it could be. I guess it's.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
What I want from a partner.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's my ideal of the perfect partner. And we've got to,
uh we get a chance this month to really kind
of come to a greater understanding of that what makes
us happy? I love that, I mean, you know, and
and the course it's going to uh supply a good

dose of discrimination decide what makes me happy, and they
don't make me happy, then it's not what I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, all right, And then of.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Course, you know, the energy patterns of this is that
we're kind of breaking for that, Uranus Jupiter. We're kind
of breaking up old realities and trying to figure out
things that no longer make us happy, turned us on.
I mean, so so Uronas is break up, break out,

break away, and break free. So we're going to get
a little bit of that this month as well. We're
going to feel that, and then in search of new opportunities, uh,
new possibilities, a greater a greater sense of things that
we can enjoy, a little more freedom, a little more individualism,

and a lot more spiritual alignment because you got the
two those these are the two most spiritual planets in
the zodiac, Uronics and jupiteriter okay, And so I look
for some you know, some rebellion, and but it goes

along with what are the possibilities? You know, makes me
think of Robert Schuller and the possibility thinking. So we
really got to tune in. And I find that Tauruses
can really tune in as a polarity to scorpio. So
they've got a good intuitive side to them as well,

very good with money, and they hold on to it.
So it's a it's a it's a good time to
experience what we're looking for and expand on what we
want even more of So one of the difficulties that

I've looked at in the energy patterns was of course cirrus,
which is it's it's how we communicate, you know. I
see as we're starting to rebel against established patterns and
establish communications and we see that it's no longer gratifying. Well,

that needs to be communicated clearly. Sometimes we try to
couch that stuff without being very clear on what we're
really do desire and want.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, and when you're saying this about like this whole
whatever you were just saying, gosh a, my mind just
went blank. You're talking about feeling that individually, but also
I kind of am thinking this might be what's happening
like as a collective right on the bigger scale, what
we're feeling like needing to figure out what we want

the individuation of, like is this structure working for us?
These are the questions we're being called to ask as
a culture too.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, well, most definitely. I mean, look at what we've been,
look at what we're facing, right, and we've got to
get in touch more of Now, wait a minute, do
I want to go backwards fifty sixty years?

Speaker 3 (11:59):

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Am? I going to try to make the best of
what we have going on right now? I mean, we've
been through it's so easy for people to just forget
twenty twenty. That was three and a half years ago,
and this whole economy crashed, right, and now all of
a sudden, we're wanting to be no inflation, more money

or less money or whatever. It was interesting I was
reading something the other day and somebody, a seventy six
year old wrote in, has inflation ever been so bad
in my lifetime? And the guy wrote back said, here's
a graft. This is one of the best times for

that ever in your lifetime, that inflation was so low.
So you see, we're all thinking this this idealistic way.
And the unfortunate thing is is we think a criminal
is going to bring back I guess something of that

established order that we all think we is so important
and valuable, and it's not. I mean, we got to
look at now, right, I mean, you know, when you
start looking backwards, and this is what we're doing. When
you're looking at the I mean, when you're looking at

the other party. Actually, now, all of a sudden, you
got a court case in Arizona. So you know, we
need and I talked about this at the beginning of
the year, that we were going to have a spiritual change.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, you did, and.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
We are having a spiritual change. We need to come
to a understanding that this is reality and how can
we make the best of it? Now? It isn't all.
This is not a horrible time in life. It's I mean,
you know, I've been doing a lot of reflection and

listening to some of the young people and saying, oh,
this is so messed up now. I mean, this whole
country is just a wreck. No it's not. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I think that we're just equating change to that because
we have a lot of things that are being called
to question into question right now. And I think one
of the mentalities after COVID was well, when things get
back to normal, And what you and I kept talking about,
and you were saying over and over and over, is
there is no get back to normal. There's going to

be a new normal, and people equate a new normal
to bad, and that's just a part of life. It's evolution.
It's like we're growing, we're changing, we're seeing what was working,
what's not working, and so it's time. It is time
for some things to change. But that's not us. It's

just uncomfortable. People don't like to be uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, but this is this is the point. It's never
been this work. You know, when I grew up in
the sixties, we had three assassinations, we had protests all
over the campuses, we had tenth State six students shot
dead over the protests. I mean, I don't even want
to hear that this is such a horrible time. It

is no less horrible. We had Vietnam, all right, you
got you got the Ukraine, and you got Israel Palestine.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, we just had social media, so everything is more
sensationalized in your face all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, and the unfortunate thing is, and I was talking
to somebody at the h the other day about this
is I mean, you know, we forget or the young
people and middle aged people, they don't realize it's always
been this bad. Right, If that's what you the way
you want to term it or it's always been possibilities

to be better and better and better.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, And I mean, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Want to choose somebody that's going to make it better.
I do not want to see us lose democracy. I
do not want to see a dictatorship. I do not
want to see the decline as I'm living out the
end of my life and things that I've enjoyed of

this world up to this point in my life. And
so I mean, you know, I think that it you know,
sometimes it does good for a healthy reminder to remind
people that, hey, this is not the worst times of
my life. Of seventy two years, eighty years. I mean,
you know, you got to figure we're coming off the

Second World War. Well, this is people in their nineties.
So we have been building, building what we have today,
going through all the hardships, going through all the tough times,
going through all the rocky times. I think we're better

off than we were in the forties and the fifties
and sixties and seventies, in the eighties, the nineties. I
don't look as the year the two thousand's being so
great and we ended up into twenty ten in a
horrible recession. So I mean that's Taurus. This is saying,
you know, let's make the best of what we have,

what's being offered. And I think that's the division that
we need to look at. And then we need to
communicate with our families, with others, with other people, we
need to communicate our true values. I disagree with that.
I don't. I don't. I don't go along with that.

And this is why I'm having this diatribe that I'm
on right now, because I hear it. I'm hearing a
lot of it. Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of it,
and I don't think people are understanding sometimes the ramifications
of what they're saying. Oh, I hate Biden. He's screwed

this country up. I'm not sure how he's done that,
and I'm not sure what they're looking at. But I mean,
it's sure as heck of a lot, a lot better
than we were coming off twenty twenty. And I mean,
you know, to expect that it's going to get back
to normal or get back to what you think you

were experiencing in the teams, it's just not it's just
not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I think a bit like what I was saying
earlier to me has really helped me mentality wise, like
you never in life are really going to go backwards
into the way things were or the way you were
even at a certain time of your life, because life
is just different and it's supposed to be like it's
never supposed to stay the same. That's why they say

the only constant in life is changed. So this is
just a time where we had a big event like
a pandemic that did change and make us have to
like go look at different resources. It's shifted the way
certain things are run. They will never be the same,
but that doesn't mean they'll be worse. It can make

them better if we just like you're saying, lean into
this tourist energy of Okay, this is how things are
in the moment. How do we make the best of
that and look at it from a different lens, versus saying, oh,
this time is so hard in life. It's like it
doesn't necessarily have to be if we lean into the
change and we lean into looking at things differently.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well certainly, and I think that that's why this full
moon that we're going to have in about two weeks
is actually going to help us understand how we might
be too stuck, how how we might be too rigid
because Taurus, I mean, you know the negative side of

Thorus is stuck and rigid and stubborn.

Speaker 3 (20:32):

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So, I mean, you know, we've got a we've got
a full moon and Sagittarius. So your visualization is going
to be haunting you. How have how have I? You know,
how am I not getting all that? I'm aspiring? Well,
where's your vision? Where's your and and Sagittarians, where's your

vision and your focus? Whatever you're what's your intent? So,
I mean, you know, I think we're going to start
looking at relationships a little bit different. I think we
need to start listening to the wisdom of the older
generations trying.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
To get a sad day. This is so interesting. I
said this on the podcast. I don't know if you
guys were listening the other week. I was kind of
on a rant about or I was just telling a
story about that. I've been around some people in their
late eighties recently and it really has dawned on me.
I mean, there's so much wisdom just sitting I was

sitting with my grandmother yesterday doing her hair, and she
was just kind of going on about life stuff. And
I was thinking to myself, like, there is so much
wealth of knowledge within the like older communities, and then
we just don't pay attention to it. It's like one
of the things Americans really get wrong that I see

other cultures really embracing is the wisdom of the elderly.
And it's like, why are we not tapping into yes,
Like you said, there have been all these other circumstances,
like life circumstances, like wars and all the same fights
we're having now about racism, all this stuff. That's an
old fight. It's the same fight that was happening in
the sixties. It's the same fight that was happening in

the twenties, like women's rights, all that stuff. It's recycled fights.
So why don't we go to people who have already
lived through it and see how they dealt with them.
Like it's right there, The answers are right there. It's
just so funny that we just don't pay attention to it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, And I mean, you know, I think that's what
this the winberlections about. Do we want to go backwards
or do we want to go forward?

Speaker 1 (22:45):

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Do we want to come in more into a socialization
of everybody wins or to go into the few win.

Speaker 1 (22:56):

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Look, the stock market is adding records, you know, that
should make everybody happy and tell you that there's there's
nothing wrong with the economy that it won't come back
to its normal status quo because it's always a up
and down process. Interest rates will come down, interest rates

will come down, houses will become more more available. I mean,
the great thing about this economy in this country is
there's always corrections to get back to normal always. I mean,
we may not see two percent interest rates again for

quite some time, but we can see four percent. I mean,
I've known most of my early twenties and thirties interest
rates at six percent. Well what are they now? Seven percent?
And people freaking out? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
It's just different. We just don't like change very much.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Well, yes, and I mean you know when we when
we had twenty twenty and we're trying to get the
country back on its feet, the whole culture and society
back on its feet. I mean, this has taking a
Herriculan effort, and it's amazing to me that nobody looks
at this as a Hurriculean effort to get this far.

I think we've got to look at how we've operated
for the first two weeks of establishing the values in
our life and communicating and participating with those values, and
then how can we move forward from here as a culture,

as a society, as an individual, and how do we
make it better by moving forward, not how we go
back fifty sixty years and relitigate stuff that we've already
been through.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
So we need to be more focused on people.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, that's the aquarium paradigm. It's about everybody, right, It's
not just about the few and the and the haves
and the have nots. That golf has been getting wider
and wider and wider for years, and I think that
we've got to I mean, if you really want to

start making some things better, start looking how you can
downsize that golf.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
So how do we use this trust energy to do that?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, I think that we've got to establish the value
for ourselves and forces as a whole. And that full
moon is going to show us what kind of progress
we've made this month, and I think that we'll have
much more of an inclination and spiritual intuitive inclination that

is going to start changing back to you know, things
aren't horrible and I can make them better. I like that.
That's what we've got to look at. I mean, we've
got to develop relationships that really are equality, honesty, and

have mutual support. And I think that we've got to
find emotional security and fulfillment within ourself just as much
within a relationship looking to the other to provide for us. See,
that's the thing about tar self sufficiency. I'm self sufficient,

so I don't need to have you doing something for
me to make me better. I need you to participate
with me as an equal.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, just match me. This is what I say all
the time. Just meet me in the middle. Let's just
meet You do your side of the street, I'll do mine.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's double the pleasures and divide the pain. How many
times I know.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I love that. Double the pleasure, invite, divide the pain.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's what relationships are for. Loving The loving someone for
who they are is much more closer to love than
the games we play. Yeah, of not showing who we
are and what we are. Yeah, that's what this full

moon's about. Spiritual Well yeah, both.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
So if you had one suggestion for the listeners on
maybe just after you've kind of dissected what this energy
is bringing, Like, what is one kind of way that
people can really just lean into that, like and really
embrace what Taurus is bringing. And then obviously working with
the sad new moon like kind of opening up new

ideas and things like that. So do you have like
a tangible suggestion? I just like to give people kind
of those ideas well.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I think that we need to look around and see
where we feel victim, okay, and then establish what is
our values, what are our intention and how are we
truly working towards it?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
The more of that mentality, like life is not happening
to you, it's happening for you, So how do you
lean in and work with it?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Right? So? I mean, you know Mars in this chart,
you see where Mars is still in their race. Okay,
So go after what you want. Don't just you know,
waller in the muck and the bud saying all things
got to be better. Yeah, no, they can there, They're

what you make them right now. Okay, there's people getting richer,
there's people getting poor. Be what you want to be.
There's nothing to stop you. And you're living in the
greatest country in the world to make that happen.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, I had an interesting uber ride last night and
a woman had moved here. I'm not going to talk
about from where, but she was leaving a country that
was a communist country and she was very successful there
and she was well off or whatever, but she said,
I had to leave because my biggest beliefs are freedom.

And she said, in my ethics, I was being asked
to do things that I was not comfortable with. And
so she fled the country because and she now has
come here and she's just was talking about, like, you know,
it's every day waking up and having freedom. People don't.
We're not even digesting what that means because we've all

lived in it forever and so it's like we've never
had that taken away to know that getting that privilege
is such a gift every single day. And so instead
of saying, what's all the stuff that's wrong? And I
mean I do this all the time, I'm like, this
is what's wrong with our country, But most of it
is about just the beauty that we're missing on the

day to day because we're just so we're just bitching
about everything being wrong instead of doing exactly what you're
saying in this energy right now and saying, here's what
it is. It's not good, it's not bad, it's just
what it is. So how do I make the best
of it and work with it and know that, like
the universe has got me here.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Wow, it's tarks build the reality you choose. You have
all you have, you have the talents, you have the resources,
all up to your intention.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I like that we still have a little bit of
aries to push us out into going and doing that
right now. Yes, yeah, that's good. I'm starting to appreciate
the are you see I love aris now?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah? You like me?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'm a I know, I just it's it's it's taken
me forty one years to learn how to not be
too sensitive with an Arias energy and embrace the positives
every sign. I really am starting to see that every
sign really does have a gift in it. And like
someone last night said to me, well, what's the worst sign?
I mean, there's no worse, there's no good, there's no bad.

It's just every sign has a They have good traits
and then they have harder traits and we all they're
all like that. So we just got to learn how to.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Work like people ask me of what's my compatible sign?
I said, all of them? Yeah, they're all compatible.

Speaker 3 (32:11):

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I mean you know, how are you using yours?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Right? Once you understand like a person's energy because of
their signs, it makes it changes life. It's like changes everything.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, not only that, when you're looking at astrologically, these
are the twelve faces of God. Yeah, I mean that's
all you need to understand.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
That makes total sense.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
How they're being played out by individuals and all of
that is I mean, that's the problem. Yeah, but it's
the twelve faces of God.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
So and each part brings a different piece of the
puzzle that can make it a home.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
There's a beauty in every single one of them. Yeah,
and every one of them are helping us to achieve
self realization and agape love.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well on that lovely note, that's end there because it
was positive, Marvi. If people do want to learn more
about their specific energies and chart and signs, maybe they
want to do a session with you. Where can they
find you?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
They can find me at astro maars dot com is
my website, and they can reach me at Marvin at
astromarv dot com.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
And as always, I'll put that in the description of
the podcast for you guys, I have a new friend
coming to you, by the way. We'll talk after the podcast,
but yeah, you guys, go do a session. I always
it's literally changed my life to start learning about my
own chart and then kind of understanding the people in
my life's charts. It's changed all my relationships, everything for
the better. So go check it out with Marv. Marv,

thanks for being here with us.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Look, we'll see you next month. Thank you guys for listening.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
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