September 19, 2025 • 28 mins
Kelly and Chip explore what your face might be saying without you even realizing it. From health and stress signals to the unexpected ways dogs can pick up on what’s really going on beneath the surface, they unpack how much of our inner world shows up on the outside—and why paying attention matters
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
H Hi, this is actually a topic that I think
you might want to discuss today versus last week when.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You bailed on all of us. How did you feel
about that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, I went directly to the library and did a
lot of research on vaginas and orgasms and women.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm kidding, well, obviously, I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's like the library as if you wouldn't just google it.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh my god, I'm showing my age. Just mentioned going
to the library. I know there's one down the street
from me, and I've never been. I've lived in this
house for ten years.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And to my point, that's why I realize every time.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I drive by it, though, I'm like, I should go
to that library.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know, like it feels like it's a relic. Like
I'm kind of shocked that there are still librries. I know,
I'm glad that there are because library. Yeah, I mean
they're great places, especially for kids and community and things
like that, so I feel like I should support it. Plus,
I buy so many books that I never read, you know,
like they just stack up, so I could donate them.
(01:10):
But like my point is I waste money when I like,
if there's a book that I really want to read.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I should just go to the fucking library and check
it out.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, give it a go.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, this is a little gross to think about,
but my cousin once said she doesn't like to go
to the library because she's like, who knows if the
person that checked out that book before you was like
pooping while reading?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And I was like that probably, it's really it's a
really good point.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, sure, we don't know where those books go.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, you know what else?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I got to figure out one are zoom and I
know there's a way to do this, but it blocks
out background noise. So sometimes when you're laughing really hard,
which I obviously want everyone to know how hard you're
laughing at.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Something said, it thinks on background noise.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, it just thinks your background noise and it cuts
you out. So I only hear the first little bit
of it, and I don't think the listeners know that
you're even laughing. It's just like silent.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's like my signature sound.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So we gotta work on. We'll have that figured out
for you guys next week.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
If anybody listening works at zoom and can help us,
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How to do it, I just haven't done it. It's
in settings, and I keep forgetting to do it. No,
my producer told me to do it a while back.
So anyway, sorry guys missed it. But anyway, we'll have
that up next week. This week on the podcast, this
was a really interesting conversation to me and he and
I got a little more maybe like spiritual than analytical
in this conversation, and so may have to just have
(02:26):
him back because the work that he does is absolutely fascinating.
But his name is doctor Todd, and he has been
a physician for so many years, like just the normal
type of doctor, diagnosing all the time. And he realized
he was having these patients come in and he was like,
I knew they were sick, They knew they were sick,
but everything on their panels or their blood tests or
(02:47):
whatever was coming back clear. So I've had to figure
out how do I read somebody's body more than what
these kind of scientific tests that I'm doing are going
to tell me. So he really studied like ari Evadic
stuff and then western I mean sorry, Chinese medicine, a
lot of like TCM stuff, traditional Chinese medicine, and he
(03:10):
came across all of these findings of how you can
read people's faces, Like they can tell you you're looking
at your face if you're certified in this kind of
thing or you know about it. People can look at
like the fine lines you have, the dark circles under
your eyes where it's concave, if your eyes are uneven,
Like he was even telling me stuff about above my
(03:32):
eye one eye was more swollen than another and what
that meant, Like it's tied to the gallbladder, which is
tied to anger. You know, there's all these fascinating things
of it. And obviously in our society too, we really
work to stay young in our face, so we try
to like cover up all these things, and really in
some ways we're like covering up the map to what's
(03:53):
happening to us on the inside. So we just had
a really interesting conversation about all of that kind of
stuff and kind of I wanted to just break that
down more with you and just what is your take,
Like do you believe that you can read people's faces
like that?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, I mean I would have never thought about it,
I guess, is the way to phrase it, Like, I
would have never thought that you could do that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But when you think about like our body as.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
A machine, like in order for it to work properly,
Like it all has to work together, right, you know,
whether there's it's like you're completely healthy or there's a
cancer in your body or whatever sort of illness, Like
there must be a way that, like your body, I
mean that we know scientifically that your body tries to
(04:37):
fight these things. So if there's an abnormality, it must
affect something, you know. Like it's kind of like if
you're holding a really heavy bag with your hand, or
if you have your arm up for an hour, like
you're gonna get tired because it's your body's trying to compensate.
So it makes sense. I just never it would have
never occurred to me that was a thing, you know,
(05:00):
like totally, Well, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It is. It is wild.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's all interconnected too, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's like when you think about Chinese medicine and stuff
like the points on the bottom.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Of your feet that affect your liver or your heart
or your head or your mouth or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It is, like it's really interesting that people actually have
the wherewithal and the knowledge to like even go and
study that and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I would love to study something like that. But
I think about how many times you've maybe seen someone
from high school or something and you'll either say, Wow,
they've really aged well or wow, they really haven't. But
so often the people that you're saying like, haven't age ball,
isn't it typically about what they're doing to their bodies
on the inside, Like maybe they're a bit heavy drinkers,
(05:45):
or don't eat well, they don't exercise, so all of
the like the big red puffy face that we might
see AND's just go, oh, someone didn't age well. Well,
it's like, well, actually, there's probably a lot happening inside
their body, like internally inflammation. Like he actually talked about
the red face what it was communicating. It's just like
a heat and it's coming from inside literally from inflammation.
(06:10):
And I just find all that so fascinating because, you know,
my big thing about our society, like I do believe
in western medicine. I'm never sitting here trying to be like,
don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm definitely not like that. I also really think that
our society skips a lot when it comes to why
we are sick, you know, like we just throw a
pill at the symptom.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's aid, yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We never change what we're doing or what caused it,
or even look at what caused it because we might
continue that behavior, and then the medicine is just like
subsiding the symptom, but it's not really actually making you healthy.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like I want us our bodies, our machines, like you said,
but when they're not working properly, I mean, when your
health goes, it's like everything goes.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's just that's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So it's just it's a fast any topic to me,
I myself would love to see a physician like this
that looked at me and did did all the panels
of western medicine, but also looked at my face and
was like, hey, there's something going on here.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When you take to you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Your liver or your gall bladder, your heart, your lungs,
whatever it is, you know, because that's what he does,
that's what it can communicate. So the other fun thing
is like he'll get on social media and he'll read
like celebrities like he just did Bruce Willis, you know
who has really bad dementia, And he kind of broke down,
like what was happening on his face? That would signify
(07:34):
all that stuff because it's just interesting because like we're
never getting the real story about celebrities, right, So he
goes in and he like reads their face and he's like,
they may have this, or they may struggle here, or
they may be really great in this area. He did
like Bianca Censory, you know, Kanye West girl, and he
was like, she's going to struggle a lot young, like
where she is now, but she'll probably really thrive later
(07:54):
in life. Based on something on her face.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I was like what And that's not yeah, and that's
that's more esoteric too.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That's not like she looks like she's got.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Cancer, you know, Like no, but it's it can be
like it's an emotional read, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right, but he reads based on like he was brought
up in my reading, you know, childhood trauma stuff. He's like,
you probably struggled with instability in your childhood and I did,
and like.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My parents have both been on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
We've talked about that because it's different now, but like
that was interesting for me. I'm like, where are you
reading that on my face?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You know? Like right, yeah, didn't give you those details.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, breaks it down very much.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
That's interesting. I'm gonna have to listen.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just feel like in our world there's probably all
these subtleties we're not paying attention to that are really
telling us everything. You know, Like the older I've gotten,
the more I've been through, I just noticed things. And
you and I have been talking about this a lot,
Like once you see stuff, you can't unsee it. Yeah,
but we are all kind of walking around in the
dark so often that I don't think we realize all
(08:54):
of the things that we're missing. So like when I
brought this topic to you, for instance, you said, oh,
that's like the and they can sniff out cancer, and
I was like, what, So tell me about this.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So you know, I've I've heard about this. I did
a little research today. There's a pretty extensive list of
things that dogs are capable of smelling.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Ill this be a smell, so they're not a smell.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So dogs have like you know, they they will inhale
like up to three hundred times a minute. It's weird too,
because they can also separate between their left and right
nose and they inhale from like right in the center
and then exhale through the side. It's all one hole though,
but they have a lot of control over it. And
I think the stat that I read this was years ago.
(09:38):
It's like they can smell seven thousand times better than weekend,
so the smallest little change they'll notice in you. So
the list of things that dogs can smell is actually
pretty extensive. The list of things that dogs can smell
(10:01):
is actually pretty extensive.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Studies have shown that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
They can smell breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, melanoma,
and colorectal cancer. They can smell infectious diseases like malaria, tuberculosis,
urinary tract infections, COVID nineteen. They can smell in diabetics
when your blood sugar is going to get low, and
if you're about to faint, they can alert you. They
(10:24):
can let you know if you're about to have a seizure.
They're trained for narcaleptics to let narcoleptics know if they're
about to fall asleep. They can smell stress, they can
smell sphere, they can smell heart and kidney disease. It's
pretty unbelievable, don't.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Mean see when they sense this in a person, though.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
There are ones that are specifically trained, especially if you
have someone who has diabetes, they might have like a
medical support rog or you know someone that's got narcilepsy
or something like that, or has seizures. They're trained to
alert you if they smell it. They can be trained
to alert others, like there can be a button that
they're taught to push that will call.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Anyem on one.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I saw a video not that long ago where a
woman was about she was having a low blood sugar
thing and her security camera in her house caught it,
and the dog went behind her and basically she was
at the sink and caught her so that he could
lay her down.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
As she fainted.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, they also sometimes won't even know, Like I've read
stories about dogs detecting cancer in their owners, and it's
just they're smelling something different and they are hyper focused
on like an area of your body. I think it's
like it's an important thing to note because if your
dog does start acting weird like that around you and
seems like hyper focused on a piece of your body,
(11:40):
then maybe it's you know, assigned at least like go
get checked out, because they could be giving you a
sign that saves your life without them even knowing it.
You know, Like, I don't think they're inherent to be like, hey, yo,
you got cancer. They're just like they smell a change.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I think that's when we were talking about this earlier.
I was thinking about we were at a friend's house
this weekend and and all those dogs were there, and
our friend's stuff is like, oh my god, Kelly, because
they always all flock to me. And I was gonna
say to you, I mean, I hope they're not all
trying to tell me I'm sick. Oh my god, because
I always read that it was like dogs are like
(12:15):
babies where there's a certain type of energy that they
just or like if you have a certain like a
peaceful energy or whatever, they just go to you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, and dogs have done this my whole life so well.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But you also, I think I know that you don't
have a fear of dogs. You just don't like want
them all over you. So I wonder if there is
a stress hormone that like you're not even aware when
you're like, oh fuck, here come the dogs. They're going
to get all over me, and they step that stress
hormone and it attracts them. Yeah, here's the stat dogs
have two hundred and twenty million cent receptors and humans
(12:50):
only have five million.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Wow, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean they can smell ten thousand times better
than we can.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
They probably need that first, that's part of their own
survival because if you were a wild dog or like
I would imagine all animals have more heightened senses. Also,
it's not that I don't like dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I know. I said, it's not that you don't like them,
you just don't like them all over you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Well, it's not that even it's when they're chaotic, like
chill dog wants to snuggle.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm all about it all day.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't like they were fighting under my feet, for instance,
and I'm like, okay, like they were my dogs too.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
For the record, my dogs are involved in this like
dog pile.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, And there was like five dogs or something at
the house and it was just it's the chaos that
my nervous system can't handle, the chaos of.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Like, and I think they probably smell that, and there's.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Aniction to me and try to snuggle and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
We can just like fear, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They I know that they do smell fear, so It's
like they probably that change.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They don't know that it's fear.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They recognize it as change, and I think it like
makes them curious.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But how do you explain Steph's dog, Brunello on July fourth?
He just would light was laying on my lap because
he was so He's usually typically so scared of fireworks,
and he slept through the whole firework show and stuff.
Was like, what is happening? And I was like, dude,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Dog whisper and maybe you are Milan.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, anyway, I think that is an interesting thing. It's
obviously different than face reading. It's like it's not looking
at something, and it's not a human that can communicate
to you what that means. But it is interesting to
think about heightened senses in general and them communicating to us,
like just as like a whole understanding how wild bodies
(14:41):
and like species of different creatures like a dog having
all those heightened senses for survival. Sometimes my mind gets
so blown thinking about all of that, and the fact
that we don't look at that is what bothers me like,
at least in traditional Chinese medicine. They're like, Okay, let's
figure out how body works and why it isn't working,
(15:02):
not just like, oh, there's a symptom of your having
a racing heart, here's a pill that'll slow it down.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
That I'll slow it down.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, I mean it's probably partly due to this our system,
like it's like a churn and burn business, whereas in
a lot of other developed nations they have social health
where it's you don't have to pay for these kinds
of things. And it's like there's benefits on both sides,
because people would argue that the American the care that
you get in America is often better, but it comes
(15:34):
at a cost, whereas in other countries you have to
wait and it's harder, and that you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Have less specialists or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
But I think that's probably it, Like they want to
get you in and out as quickly as they can
so they can build your insurance. Yeah, so rather than
really figuring out what's at the root of it, they
just want to fix the symptoms. I've got another like
non dog dog example. I'm a friend of mine was
diagnosed with something and I think this is really interesting
because it is a non verbal sort of thing, and
(16:02):
it was it was something that was really scary because
it was defying her doctor's scientific knowledge. She was having
seizures and she couldn't figure out why. She's a musician
who hadn't been practicing music in a long time.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
She'd done it twenty some years ago. It was a
thing of her past.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
She's moved on, is in a completely different life and
has a different business. She's an entrepreneur and a designer.
And she and a friend got together because they were
like her friend was as a songwriter and was like, girl,
you need to write music again, like people would love
to hear from you. And when she after she wrote
the first song, she had a seizure and she went
to her doctor and they were trying to figure out
what it was, and none of the tests were indicating
(16:42):
anything about epilepsy. So he recommended her to a specialist
who was a therapist who focuses on a thing called
psychogenic non epileptic seizures PNEs, and there are episodes that
resemble seizures, but they're not caused by abnormal brain activity. Instead,
they stem from psychological things like stress, emotional issues, and trauma.
(17:05):
And ultimately, what she figured out was there was trauma
in her life from back when she was doing music
that her body associated with music. So when she reintroduced
music to her body, there was a physical response. And
now she's got it under control, Like there are still
things that can trigger it, but she's not on epilepsy
(17:26):
medicine because she doesn't have epilepsy, and a lot of
times people with PNS, they're diagnosed with epilepsy then given
the pills and it makes it, it makes their caesars worse,
and then like if their doctor doesn't know about PNS,
there is no hope, you know, like they're just they're
causing the problem now with the medicine.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But it's wild because it is this unseen.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Thing and you know, maybe she would have never experienced
it had she not started exploring music again, and it
could have been something that just stayed dormant and life.
The therapist helped her work through by writing in Trauma
Therapy to sort of get the seizures at bay.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's wild, And I mean, I'm so glad you've brought
that topic up just in general, because this is another
thing I get up said about, Like I don't feel
like as many people that are diagnosed with ADHD actually
have ADHD. Like sorry, our society is not that full
of people walking around with ADHD.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
However, if you learn more about trauma, so many symptoms
of repressed trauma that's stuck in our body show up
like ADHD symptoms. So if we're not digging deeper or
really trying to unpack what happened, the reality how to
retrain our bodies, Like you said, like with somatic kind
of work, we're just gonna get thrown a pill and
(18:45):
it's not gonna help ultimately. That's the thing. It's like,
sure everything might help temporarily, but if you get put
on adderall and it only ebbs and flows when it
works for you, you probably don't have ADHD. You probably
have trauma.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It could also make it worse.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It could create anxiety because you don't feel like yourself,
or you don't know what's going on with your body.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
All those things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, but so I just like that that conversation even
exists of looking at the ties, Like I think mental
health and physical health need to be way more connected
in our medical system. And there's a lot of like
energy type workers slash medical even medical mediums or things
like that that I've started to discover in our society,
(19:29):
and I think that kind of work is going to
just become keep becoming more and more prevalent because we've
over extended in the way of just treating this symptom.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Everyone is getting a little more curious and cautious about
that now that we're learning more about the medical system.
And this is not again to say that all of
the medical system.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Is medicine works. Yeah, I don't work.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think that at all. So, but that's that's a
really interesting conversation. And I also was thinking, like, you
know how you always say to me, You're like, how
did you know that? Like We'll be out of the
same dinner and I'll will lead and you're like, well,
that was so fun, And I'm like, yeah, but did
you see what was wrong with so and so?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And you're like, what right?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But I think I'm reading energy, but I think I'm
also reading facial cues, and I don't really realize I'm
doing it a lot. So I think there's an emotional
component to the face reading that can happen more too.
And maybe women are more in tune or I don't
know my personality type or whatever. But like, I never
am sitting in a room and think that what's happening
at face value is really the thing that's right, right,
(20:27):
I don't like that's very That's why I get so
exhausted by social situations so often, is because I'm absorbing
all of the unsaid things all the time too.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
In some ways, it's like, to me, that sounds exhausting,
but it also sounds fascinating because you know, it is
really easy to go through life and just take things
at face value.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
And that's fair.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I feel like probably most people do, because we also
want to just believe what we're being told, like, well,
you know, it's like, but it is pretty interesting. I
just I worry that if I had that ability, I
wouldn't believe a thing anybody is saying at all, and
I would walk around and be a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You know. So I'm kind of glad that I'm like,
ignorance is bliss in my world.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh, just as much as you can read when people
aren't telling the truth, you can read when people are.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, That's why I'm such.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
A big advocate for you all the time of like
what I think you're like, I just know where your
heart is off so often things and even if that's
not fully communicated or you're not being that open about it,
I can sense it. So I think it can go
in positive ways too, it's my point.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah, but it is weird because I'll often like
I'll know something in my body, but like either nobody's
talking about it, or even that person isn't aware of it,
and then it takes like weeks or sometimes months for
it to come to a head, And then it'll come
to a head, and I'm like, I fucking knew that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Would you want to walk around in a society where
we could like either read people's faces or look at
someone and know what they were thinking, like almost telepathic?
Would you want to walk around in a society where
(22:20):
we could like either read people's faces or look at
someone and know what they were thinking, like almost telepathic?
Is that?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
What that is?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That? Telepathic?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I mean, my knee jerk is I would want to
say yes, because it's like you just want I like,
I'm a believer in the truth, so it would be nice, Like,
wouldn't it be nice? To know if someone didn't like
you and you were like trying to be friends with
them and they're or like trying to date them and
they just weren't interested and you just knew and you
could just move on, like.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I guess, but I'm also I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Ignorance is bliss too, you know, like there is something
nice about because you have to remember, if you're able
to do that, someone else is probably able to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And there is like.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Beauty in having your autonomy and anonymity and your own
secrets and things like that.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And I'm not that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I carry a bunch of dark secrets around, but I
don't know. I just wouldn't want everyone to be able
to like know everything about me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's such a double scorpio answer. You're like, Oh, where's
the mystery? As you were just talking about that and
saying I don't want people to know what's happening in
my brain, I thought to myself, isn't that what transparency
and relationships is?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Though, Like, shouldn't we be aiming to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Just speak the truth versus figure out something else to
say other than the truth, to sugarcoat it, to paint
it in a different whatever, wouldn't that be the point.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of totally Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But I'm also thinking, like if you were walking down
the street and you're mad at me and some random
person's like.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What did Chip do, You're like the fucker, Like, that
would be weird.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It would be weird. But what if I was just like, well,
that fucker blah blahh Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean I guess it would like make the world
kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
A funny interesting thing, especially if you could turn it
on or turn it off. Like if you were just
like I need to get where I'm going, I'm turning
it off.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't want to hear the world right now.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
When sometimes you then you're like on the train in
New York City and you're like, turn that shit on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's why I hate crowds now is because the more
in touch with my own intuition I've gotten, the more
overwhelming it is to be around multiple people because I
think that is like somewhat happening to me. And so
I can't imagine if we had that skill set that
we would want it on when we left the house
very often, unless you were doing like a very intense
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meeting for work and you just wanted to read, but
you have to. It's like the rule seems like it
would have to be if you turned yours on to
read other people's, yours would have to be on too
for them to read you. It would just change the
way our society was.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm serious, Like here, it's yeah, maybe we need to
like figure out how to Like they just announced the
new AirPod pros have live translation. I don't know if
any if our listeners are Apple users or not, but
it's pretty fucking fascinating because I have some that do that.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
But the this is like next level translating.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Like if I was reading, if.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You're speaking Spanish to me, I'd hear it in English
in mind, and then if I speak back, I hold
the phone up and I'm speaking in English, but it
writes it in Spanish to you so you can see it.
But if we're both wearing AirPod pros, sitting at a
coffee table and I'm in Spain and meet a person
they can speak in Spanish, I hear it in English,
I speak in English and they hear.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
It in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That is wild.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, so now there's no.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Like language barrier.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Really, well, you can't.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Talk shit about people in your native language, like in
the grocery store, like that girl's got a nice ass,
because you might have your translator AirPods ends.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So yeah, oh my gosh, that is wild. So we
just need to create the one for emotions and reading
people's minds basically, not the word they're saying.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, So maybe that's in a glasses form, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
A metaglasses like me glasses.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, they're like, stay away from Kelly, she's having a
bad day.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It like whispers it in my ear.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It's like and I look on the outside like I'm
so happy, but inside I'm crying. Right, So that's what
it communicates to you. We'll work on that, and if
we figured out pretty sure, we probably won't do this
podcast anymore. You guys won't be hearing from us. I'll
be on my private island. Yeah, there we go, hiding
from everyone reading my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah yeah, and from hearing what everyone's thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, exactly. It's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
If you guys have ideas like that, please send them
to the edge of velvetegat Colm or what do y'all think?
Do you want people to read your face or your
brain or all these different subtleties I think are so
interesting to talk about how oh we're actually taking them in.
It's like the body language expert Adrian Carter that was
on a couple weeks ago, and she talked about we're
constantly communicating with each other and we just don't even
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realize it with our body language.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That all of these factors of the different ways we're
communicating with each other are coming to the surface right now.
I feel like it's a conversation we're supposed to be having,
So let us know what you guys think. It's the
Edge at velvetedge dot com. You can also reach out
to me on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Edge Chip, I'm at chipdorsh. It's hip d r sch.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
We're also on Instagram at Velvet Edge podcast, and on
TikTok at velvet Edge, and on YouTube at velvet Edge.
I've got to just put this in the description of
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm like a running just.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's about repetition though, that sure is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And if you guys, please go like and subscribe to
this podcast so it gets pushed out to everyone else
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In all of us connecting that we're doing every week
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Speaker 4 (28:03):
We just have to look at you. And now that
you listen to our podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Exactly and as you guys go on to the weekend
and you're living on an edge, I hope you always
remember too.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Back casual, Fine,
We're back.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
H Hi, this is actually a topic that I think
you might want to discuss today versus last week when.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You bailed on all of us. How did you feel
about that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, I went directly to the library and did a
lot of research on vaginas and orgasms and women.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm kidding, well, obviously, I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's like the library as if you wouldn't just google it.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh my god, I'm showing my age. Just mentioned going
to the library. I know there's one down the street
from me, and I've never been. I've lived in this
house for ten years.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And to my point, that's why I realize every time.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I drive by it, though, I'm like, I should go
to that library.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know, like it feels like it's a relic. Like
I'm kind of shocked that there are still librries. I know,
I'm glad that there are because library. Yeah, I mean
they're great places, especially for kids and community and things
like that, so I feel like I should support it. Plus,
I buy so many books that I never read, you know,
like they just stack up, so I could donate them.
(01:10):
But like my point is I waste money when I like,
if there's a book that I really want to read.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I should just go to the fucking library and check
it out.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, give it a go.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, this is a little gross to think about,
but my cousin once said she doesn't like to go
to the library because she's like, who knows if the
person that checked out that book before you was like
pooping while reading?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And I was like that probably, it's really it's a
really good point.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, sure, we don't know where those books go.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, you know what else?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I got to figure out one are zoom and I
know there's a way to do this, but it blocks
out background noise. So sometimes when you're laughing really hard,
which I obviously want everyone to know how hard you're
laughing at.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Something said, it thinks on background noise.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, it just thinks your background noise and it cuts
you out. So I only hear the first little bit
of it, and I don't think the listeners know that
you're even laughing. It's just like silent.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's like my signature sound.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So we gotta work on. We'll have that figured out
for you guys next week.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
If anybody listening works at zoom and can help us,
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How to do it, I just haven't done it. It's
in settings, and I keep forgetting to do it. No,
my producer told me to do it a while back.
So anyway, sorry guys missed it. But anyway, we'll have
that up next week. This week on the podcast, this
was a really interesting conversation to me and he and
I got a little more maybe like spiritual than analytical
in this conversation, and so may have to just have
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him back because the work that he does is absolutely fascinating.
But his name is doctor Todd, and he has been
a physician for so many years, like just the normal
type of doctor, diagnosing all the time. And he realized
he was having these patients come in and he was like,
I knew they were sick, They knew they were sick,
but everything on their panels or their blood tests or
(02:47):
whatever was coming back clear. So I've had to figure
out how do I read somebody's body more than what
these kind of scientific tests that I'm doing are going
to tell me. So he really studied like ari Evadic
stuff and then western I mean sorry, Chinese medicine, a
lot of like TCM stuff, traditional Chinese medicine, and he
(03:10):
came across all of these findings of how you can
read people's faces, Like they can tell you you're looking
at your face if you're certified in this kind of
thing or you know about it. People can look at
like the fine lines you have, the dark circles under
your eyes where it's concave, if your eyes are uneven,
Like he was even telling me stuff about above my
(03:32):
eye one eye was more swollen than another and what
that meant, Like it's tied to the gallbladder, which is
tied to anger. You know, there's all these fascinating things
of it. And obviously in our society too, we really
work to stay young in our face, so we try
to like cover up all these things, and really in
some ways we're like covering up the map to what's
(03:53):
happening to us on the inside. So we just had
a really interesting conversation about all of that kind of
stuff and kind of I wanted to just break that
down more with you and just what is your take,
Like do you believe that you can read people's faces
like that?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, I mean I would have never thought about it,
I guess, is the way to phrase it, Like, I
would have never thought that you could do that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But when you think about like our body as.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
A machine, like in order for it to work properly,
Like it all has to work together, right, you know,
whether there's it's like you're completely healthy or there's a
cancer in your body or whatever sort of illness, Like
there must be a way that, like your body, I
mean that we know scientifically that your body tries to
(04:37):
fight these things. So if there's an abnormality, it must
affect something, you know. Like it's kind of like if
you're holding a really heavy bag with your hand, or
if you have your arm up for an hour, like
you're gonna get tired because it's your body's trying to compensate.
So it makes sense. I just never it would have
never occurred to me that was a thing, you know,
(05:00):
like totally, Well, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It is. It is wild.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's all interconnected too, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's like when you think about Chinese medicine and stuff
like the points on the bottom.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Of your feet that affect your liver or your heart
or your head or your mouth or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It is, like it's really interesting that people actually have
the wherewithal and the knowledge to like even go and
study that and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I would love to study something like that. But
I think about how many times you've maybe seen someone
from high school or something and you'll either say, Wow,
they've really aged well or wow, they really haven't. But
so often the people that you're saying like, haven't age ball,
isn't it typically about what they're doing to their bodies
on the inside, Like maybe they're a bit heavy drinkers,
(05:45):
or don't eat well, they don't exercise, so all of
the like the big red puffy face that we might
see AND's just go, oh, someone didn't age well. Well,
it's like, well, actually, there's probably a lot happening inside
their body, like internally inflammation. Like he actually talked about
the red face what it was communicating. It's just like
a heat and it's coming from inside literally from inflammation.
(06:10):
And I just find all that so fascinating because, you know,
my big thing about our society, like I do believe
in western medicine. I'm never sitting here trying to be like,
don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm definitely not like that. I also really think that
our society skips a lot when it comes to why
we are sick, you know, like we just throw a
pill at the symptom.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's aid, yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We never change what we're doing or what caused it,
or even look at what caused it because we might
continue that behavior, and then the medicine is just like
subsiding the symptom, but it's not really actually making you healthy.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like I want us our bodies, our machines, like you said,
but when they're not working properly, I mean, when your
health goes, it's like everything goes.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's just that's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So it's just it's a fast any topic to me,
I myself would love to see a physician like this
that looked at me and did did all the panels
of western medicine, but also looked at my face and
was like, hey, there's something going on here.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When you take to you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Your liver or your gall bladder, your heart, your lungs,
whatever it is, you know, because that's what he does,
that's what it can communicate. So the other fun thing
is like he'll get on social media and he'll read
like celebrities like he just did Bruce Willis, you know
who has really bad dementia, And he kind of broke down,
like what was happening on his face? That would signify
(07:34):
all that stuff because it's just interesting because like we're
never getting the real story about celebrities, right, So he
goes in and he like reads their face and he's like,
they may have this, or they may struggle here, or
they may be really great in this area. He did
like Bianca Censory, you know, Kanye West girl, and he
was like, she's going to struggle a lot young, like
where she is now, but she'll probably really thrive later
(07:54):
in life. Based on something on her face.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I was like what And that's not yeah, and that's
that's more esoteric too.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That's not like she looks like she's got.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Cancer, you know, Like no, but it's it can be
like it's an emotional read, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right, but he reads based on like he was brought
up in my reading, you know, childhood trauma stuff. He's like,
you probably struggled with instability in your childhood and I did,
and like.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My parents have both been on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
We've talked about that because it's different now, but like
that was interesting for me. I'm like, where are you
reading that on my face?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You know? Like right, yeah, didn't give you those details.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, breaks it down very much.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
That's interesting. I'm gonna have to listen.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just feel like in our world there's probably all
these subtleties we're not paying attention to that are really
telling us everything. You know, Like the older I've gotten,
the more I've been through, I just noticed things. And
you and I have been talking about this a lot,
Like once you see stuff, you can't unsee it. Yeah,
but we are all kind of walking around in the
dark so often that I don't think we realize all
(08:54):
of the things that we're missing. So like when I
brought this topic to you, for instance, you said, oh,
that's like the and they can sniff out cancer, and
I was like, what, So tell me about this.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So you know, I've I've heard about this. I did
a little research today. There's a pretty extensive list of
things that dogs are capable of smelling.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Ill this be a smell, so they're not a smell.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So dogs have like you know, they they will inhale
like up to three hundred times a minute. It's weird too,
because they can also separate between their left and right
nose and they inhale from like right in the center
and then exhale through the side. It's all one hole though,
but they have a lot of control over it. And
I think the stat that I read this was years ago.
(09:38):
It's like they can smell seven thousand times better than weekend,
so the smallest little change they'll notice in you. So
the list of things that dogs can smell is actually
pretty extensive. The list of things that dogs can smell
(10:01):
is actually pretty extensive.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Studies have shown that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
They can smell breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, melanoma,
and colorectal cancer. They can smell infectious diseases like malaria, tuberculosis,
urinary tract infections, COVID nineteen. They can smell in diabetics
when your blood sugar is going to get low, and
if you're about to faint, they can alert you. They
(10:24):
can let you know if you're about to have a seizure.
They're trained for narcaleptics to let narcoleptics know if they're
about to fall asleep. They can smell stress, they can
smell sphere, they can smell heart and kidney disease. It's
pretty unbelievable, don't.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Mean see when they sense this in a person, though.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
There are ones that are specifically trained, especially if you
have someone who has diabetes, they might have like a
medical support rog or you know someone that's got narcilepsy
or something like that, or has seizures. They're trained to
alert you if they smell it. They can be trained
to alert others, like there can be a button that
they're taught to push that will call.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Anyem on one.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I saw a video not that long ago where a
woman was about she was having a low blood sugar
thing and her security camera in her house caught it,
and the dog went behind her and basically she was
at the sink and caught her so that he could
lay her down.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
As she fainted.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, they also sometimes won't even know, Like I've read
stories about dogs detecting cancer in their owners, and it's
just they're smelling something different and they are hyper focused
on like an area of your body. I think it's
like it's an important thing to note because if your
dog does start acting weird like that around you and
seems like hyper focused on a piece of your body,
(11:40):
then maybe it's you know, assigned at least like go
get checked out, because they could be giving you a
sign that saves your life without them even knowing it.
You know, Like, I don't think they're inherent to be like, hey, yo,
you got cancer. They're just like they smell a change.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I think that's when we were talking about this earlier.
I was thinking about we were at a friend's house
this weekend and and all those dogs were there, and
our friend's stuff is like, oh my god, Kelly, because
they always all flock to me. And I was gonna
say to you, I mean, I hope they're not all
trying to tell me I'm sick. Oh my god, because
I always read that it was like dogs are like
(12:15):
babies where there's a certain type of energy that they
just or like if you have a certain like a
peaceful energy or whatever, they just go to you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, and dogs have done this my whole life so well.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But you also, I think I know that you don't
have a fear of dogs. You just don't like want
them all over you. So I wonder if there is
a stress hormone that like you're not even aware when
you're like, oh fuck, here come the dogs. They're going
to get all over me, and they step that stress
hormone and it attracts them. Yeah, here's the stat dogs
have two hundred and twenty million cent receptors and humans
(12:50):
only have five million.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Wow, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean they can smell ten thousand times better
than we can.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
They probably need that first, that's part of their own
survival because if you were a wild dog or like
I would imagine all animals have more heightened senses. Also,
it's not that I don't like dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I know. I said, it's not that you don't like them,
you just don't like them all over you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Well, it's not that even it's when they're chaotic, like
chill dog wants to snuggle.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm all about it all day.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't like they were fighting under my feet, for instance,
and I'm like, okay, like they were my dogs too.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
For the record, my dogs are involved in this like
dog pile.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, And there was like five dogs or something at
the house and it was just it's the chaos that
my nervous system can't handle, the chaos of.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Like, and I think they probably smell that, and there's.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Aniction to me and try to snuggle and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
We can just like fear, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They I know that they do smell fear, so It's
like they probably that change.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They don't know that it's fear.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They recognize it as change, and I think it like
makes them curious.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But how do you explain Steph's dog, Brunello on July fourth?
He just would light was laying on my lap because
he was so He's usually typically so scared of fireworks,
and he slept through the whole firework show and stuff.
Was like, what is happening? And I was like, dude,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Dog whisper and maybe you are Milan.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, anyway, I think that is an interesting thing. It's
obviously different than face reading. It's like it's not looking
at something, and it's not a human that can communicate
to you what that means. But it is interesting to
think about heightened senses in general and them communicating to us,
like just as like a whole understanding how wild bodies
(14:41):
and like species of different creatures like a dog having
all those heightened senses for survival. Sometimes my mind gets
so blown thinking about all of that, and the fact
that we don't look at that is what bothers me like,
at least in traditional Chinese medicine. They're like, Okay, let's
figure out how body works and why it isn't working,
(15:02):
not just like, oh, there's a symptom of your having
a racing heart, here's a pill that'll slow it down.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
That I'll slow it down.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, I mean it's probably partly due to this our system,
like it's like a churn and burn business, whereas in
a lot of other developed nations they have social health
where it's you don't have to pay for these kinds
of things. And it's like there's benefits on both sides,
because people would argue that the American the care that
you get in America is often better, but it comes
(15:34):
at a cost, whereas in other countries you have to
wait and it's harder, and that you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Have less specialists or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
But I think that's probably it, Like they want to
get you in and out as quickly as they can
so they can build your insurance. Yeah, so rather than
really figuring out what's at the root of it, they
just want to fix the symptoms. I've got another like
non dog dog example. I'm a friend of mine was
diagnosed with something and I think this is really interesting
because it is a non verbal sort of thing, and
(16:02):
it was it was something that was really scary because
it was defying her doctor's scientific knowledge. She was having
seizures and she couldn't figure out why. She's a musician
who hadn't been practicing music in a long time.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
She'd done it twenty some years ago. It was a
thing of her past.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
She's moved on, is in a completely different life and
has a different business. She's an entrepreneur and a designer.
And she and a friend got together because they were
like her friend was as a songwriter and was like, girl,
you need to write music again, like people would love
to hear from you. And when she after she wrote
the first song, she had a seizure and she went
to her doctor and they were trying to figure out
what it was, and none of the tests were indicating
(16:42):
anything about epilepsy. So he recommended her to a specialist
who was a therapist who focuses on a thing called
psychogenic non epileptic seizures PNEs, and there are episodes that
resemble seizures, but they're not caused by abnormal brain activity. Instead,
they stem from psychological things like stress, emotional issues, and trauma.
(17:05):
And ultimately, what she figured out was there was trauma
in her life from back when she was doing music
that her body associated with music. So when she reintroduced
music to her body, there was a physical response. And
now she's got it under control, Like there are still
things that can trigger it, but she's not on epilepsy
(17:26):
medicine because she doesn't have epilepsy, and a lot of
times people with PNS, they're diagnosed with epilepsy then given
the pills and it makes it, it makes their caesars worse,
and then like if their doctor doesn't know about PNS,
there is no hope, you know, like they're just they're
causing the problem now with the medicine.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But it's wild because it is this unseen.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Thing and you know, maybe she would have never experienced
it had she not started exploring music again, and it
could have been something that just stayed dormant and life.
The therapist helped her work through by writing in Trauma
Therapy to sort of get the seizures at bay.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's wild, And I mean, I'm so glad you've brought
that topic up just in general, because this is another
thing I get up said about, Like I don't feel
like as many people that are diagnosed with ADHD actually
have ADHD. Like sorry, our society is not that full
of people walking around with ADHD.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
However, if you learn more about trauma, so many symptoms
of repressed trauma that's stuck in our body show up
like ADHD symptoms. So if we're not digging deeper or
really trying to unpack what happened, the reality how to
retrain our bodies, Like you said, like with somatic kind
of work, we're just gonna get thrown a pill and
(18:45):
it's not gonna help ultimately. That's the thing. It's like,
sure everything might help temporarily, but if you get put
on adderall and it only ebbs and flows when it
works for you, you probably don't have ADHD. You probably
have trauma.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It could also make it worse.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It could create anxiety because you don't feel like yourself,
or you don't know what's going on with your body.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
All those things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, but so I just like that that conversation even
exists of looking at the ties, Like I think mental
health and physical health need to be way more connected
in our medical system. And there's a lot of like
energy type workers slash medical even medical mediums or things
like that that I've started to discover in our society,
(19:29):
and I think that kind of work is going to
just become keep becoming more and more prevalent because we've
over extended in the way of just treating this symptom.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Everyone is getting a little more curious and cautious about
that now that we're learning more about the medical system.
And this is not again to say that all of
the medical system.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Is medicine works. Yeah, I don't work.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think that at all. So, but that's that's a
really interesting conversation. And I also was thinking, like, you
know how you always say to me, You're like, how
did you know that? Like We'll be out of the
same dinner and I'll will lead and you're like, well,
that was so fun, And I'm like, yeah, but did
you see what was wrong with so and so?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And you're like, what right?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But I think I'm reading energy, but I think I'm
also reading facial cues, and I don't really realize I'm
doing it a lot. So I think there's an emotional
component to the face reading that can happen more too.
And maybe women are more in tune or I don't
know my personality type or whatever. But like, I never
am sitting in a room and think that what's happening
at face value is really the thing that's right, right,
(20:27):
I don't like that's very That's why I get so
exhausted by social situations so often, is because I'm absorbing
all of the unsaid things all the time too.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
In some ways, it's like, to me, that sounds exhausting,
but it also sounds fascinating because you know, it is
really easy to go through life and just take things
at face value.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
And that's fair.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I feel like probably most people do, because we also
want to just believe what we're being told, like, well,
you know, it's like, but it is pretty interesting. I
just I worry that if I had that ability, I
wouldn't believe a thing anybody is saying at all, and
I would walk around and be a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You know. So I'm kind of glad that I'm like,
ignorance is bliss in my world.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh, just as much as you can read when people
aren't telling the truth, you can read when people are.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, That's why I'm such.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
A big advocate for you all the time of like
what I think you're like, I just know where your
heart is off so often things and even if that's
not fully communicated or you're not being that open about it,
I can sense it. So I think it can go
in positive ways too, it's my point.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah, but it is weird because I'll often like
I'll know something in my body, but like either nobody's
talking about it, or even that person isn't aware of it,
and then it takes like weeks or sometimes months for
it to come to a head, And then it'll come
to a head, and I'm like, I fucking knew that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Would you want to walk around in a society where
we could like either read people's faces or look at
someone and know what they were thinking, like almost telepathic?
Would you want to walk around in a society where
(22:20):
we could like either read people's faces or look at
someone and know what they were thinking, like almost telepathic?
Is that?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
What that is?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That? Telepathic?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I mean, my knee jerk is I would want to
say yes, because it's like you just want I like,
I'm a believer in the truth, so it would be nice, Like,
wouldn't it be nice? To know if someone didn't like
you and you were like trying to be friends with
them and they're or like trying to date them and
they just weren't interested and you just knew and you
could just move on, like.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I guess, but I'm also I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Ignorance is bliss too, you know, like there is something
nice about because you have to remember, if you're able
to do that, someone else is probably able to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And there is like.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Beauty in having your autonomy and anonymity and your own
secrets and things like that.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And I'm not that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I carry a bunch of dark secrets around, but I
don't know. I just wouldn't want everyone to be able
to like know everything about me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's such a double scorpio answer. You're like, Oh, where's
the mystery? As you were just talking about that and
saying I don't want people to know what's happening in
my brain, I thought to myself, isn't that what transparency
and relationships is?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Though, Like, shouldn't we be aiming to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Just speak the truth versus figure out something else to
say other than the truth, to sugarcoat it, to paint
it in a different whatever, wouldn't that be the point.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of totally Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But I'm also thinking, like if you were walking down
the street and you're mad at me and some random
person's like.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What did Chip do, You're like the fucker, Like, that
would be weird.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It would be weird. But what if I was just like, well,
that fucker blah blahh Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean I guess it would like make the world
kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
A funny interesting thing, especially if you could turn it
on or turn it off. Like if you were just
like I need to get where I'm going, I'm turning
it off.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't want to hear the world right now.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
When sometimes you then you're like on the train in
New York City and you're like, turn that shit on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's why I hate crowds now is because the more
in touch with my own intuition I've gotten, the more
overwhelming it is to be around multiple people because I
think that is like somewhat happening to me. And so
I can't imagine if we had that skill set that
we would want it on when we left the house
very often, unless you were doing like a very intense
(24:48):
meeting for work and you just wanted to read, but
you have to. It's like the rule seems like it
would have to be if you turned yours on to
read other people's, yours would have to be on too
for them to read you. It would just change the
way our society was.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm serious, Like here, it's yeah, maybe we need to
like figure out how to Like they just announced the
new AirPod pros have live translation. I don't know if
any if our listeners are Apple users or not, but
it's pretty fucking fascinating because I have some that do that.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
But the this is like next level translating.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Like if I was reading, if.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You're speaking Spanish to me, I'd hear it in English
in mind, and then if I speak back, I hold
the phone up and I'm speaking in English, but it
writes it in Spanish to you so you can see it.
But if we're both wearing AirPod pros, sitting at a
coffee table and I'm in Spain and meet a person
they can speak in Spanish, I hear it in English,
I speak in English and they hear.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
It in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That is wild.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, so now there's no.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Like language barrier.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Really, well, you can't.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Talk shit about people in your native language, like in
the grocery store, like that girl's got a nice ass,
because you might have your translator AirPods ends.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So yeah, oh my gosh, that is wild. So we
just need to create the one for emotions and reading
people's minds basically, not the word they're saying.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, So maybe that's in a glasses form, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
A metaglasses like me glasses.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, they're like, stay away from Kelly, she's having a
bad day.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It like whispers it in my ear.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It's like and I look on the outside like I'm
so happy, but inside I'm crying. Right, So that's what
it communicates to you. We'll work on that, and if
we figured out pretty sure, we probably won't do this
podcast anymore. You guys won't be hearing from us. I'll
be on my private island. Yeah, there we go, hiding
from everyone reading my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah yeah, and from hearing what everyone's thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, exactly. It's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
If you guys have ideas like that, please send them
to the edge of velvetegat Colm or what do y'all think?
Do you want people to read your face or your
brain or all these different subtleties I think are so
interesting to talk about how oh we're actually taking them in.
It's like the body language expert Adrian Carter that was
on a couple weeks ago, and she talked about we're
constantly communicating with each other and we just don't even
(27:10):
realize it with our body language.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That all of these factors of the different ways we're
communicating with each other are coming to the surface right now.
I feel like it's a conversation we're supposed to be having,
So let us know what you guys think. It's the
Edge at velvetedge dot com. You can also reach out
to me on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Edge Chip, I'm at chipdorsh. It's hip d r sch.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
We're also on Instagram at Velvet Edge podcast, and on
TikTok at velvet Edge, and on YouTube at velvet Edge.
I've got to just put this in the description of
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm like a running just.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's about repetition though, that sure is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And if you guys, please go like and subscribe to
this podcast so it gets pushed out to everyone else
and they can share with us and join with us.
In all of us connecting that we're doing every week
using words, wait till we don't have to, wait till.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
We just have to look at you. And now that
you listen to our podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Exactly and as you guys go on to the weekend
and you're living on an edge, I hope you always
remember too.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Back casual, Fine,
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