Why Is Your Soul Here with Amanda Rieger Green (The Velvet)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's
Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Amanda Rieger Green is here.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
She's also known as soul Pathology on Instagram. I am
so happy to finally meet you, we were saying before
the podcast. I feel like I've known you because you
are cousins with a dear friend of mine, Amy Brown, so.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I've heard about you for years.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I can't believe we're actually finally meeting, but I'm so
glad you're here. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Thank you, Kelly, same same, We've just our paths have
not personally intersected, but we know each other and it's
really good to connect virtually in person.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Also, this timing is crazy because it is seriously the
most intense energy possible. There's like eclipses and mercury retrograde,
and I just don't think it's a mistake that we're
talking when we are. But you are a psychic medium,
an intuitive and a wellness and spiritual leader. That's kind
of the description I came with based on all the

(01:02):
things that you do, and I really want to talk
about a lot of those things and what it looks
like in a day to day life, because I talk
about those things on the podcast and I know a
lot of people are super interested in it. But what
I was telling you is that I think the idea
of seeing a psychic in general is still a little
scary to people, and so I want to kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Go through your story.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
But also you said you would maybe interject some things
if they come up for me within that so people
can understand sort of how your skill set works.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Absolutely, so, we all have intuitive and psychic abilities, and
there's a nuance between the two. And definitely the word
the label psychic gets a bad rap and a connotation
because it is scary, like soothsaying or divination, and it's
just better understanding it. But we all have these intuitive

(01:55):
and psychic gifts and it's how we utilize them. And
one thing I will say about that to start is,
while we have all of our sensory gifts, our intuitive
abilities are the next frontier. We need to be able
to harness and know our truth, our voice, not just
the gut instincts, but being able to really recognize our

(02:19):
intuition in order to feel deeper meaning, purpose, trust, healthier relationships,
greater physical health and well being. The more we listen
to and utilize and practice our intuition, like strengthening a muscle,
the more clear and grounded and aligned we get to feel.

(02:40):
So the psychic abilities, yes, I do get insights and
downloads that are very clear with timelines. Am I always correct? No,
Because we have our own personal will and freedom, and
we can change the trajectory of our life and our path.
A lot of times when I read for people, if
it's like something about a pregnancy or a job change,

(03:03):
I can usually see the highest and best, most clear
path that it will play out. But there's all these
other trajectories, and sometimes we have to go the long
way around. Sometimes we're not quite ready because we're still
stuck or we're in an old belief system. And I
know you can relate to that. It's like we don't
learn lessons until we get in enough pain sometimes or discomfort,

(03:28):
and so we get in all this ego and self will.
I mean, we're human, we're messy after all. But a
lot of times the psychic stuff is it can be
very clear. But again, I'm not playing God. I'm using
my God given gifts and talents, and I just have
learned to utilize those and channel those to support and

(03:49):
uplift other people and to help inspire them through their
own innate intuitive gifts and abilities, just for greater happiness, peace, clarity, love,
all the things that we're seeking.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I love that definition so much because we were talking
about this before the podcast. I find that this kind
of work and any sort of energy work I'm doing,
you know, reiki, astrology, all the people and facilitators I
have on this podcast, I am drawn to their work
because spiritually it really connects me personally deeper in my

(04:24):
own practices. And we were saying before a lot of
the big hold up with this kind of work is
that people think it's kind of like witchy maybe you know,
like that would be a definition, or it seems scary,
and it seems count, it seems opposite of religion or
anything like that. And for me, it's actually helped me
to connect even more deeply to a higher power and

(04:46):
in a spiritual way. So can you speak to that
a little bit? I think you kind of touched on it,
But I love the connection piece of like it's connecting
us to God and you're almost this voice that's just
you're just talking. We're all connected.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
We're all connected in my journey. I was raised in
a Christian home, in a Christian family, in the Episcopal Church,
but I was always seeking, curious, and searching in my spirituality.
I didn't realize that or recognize it for a long time,
but I was always the child like when I went
to vacation Bible school, I would come home and say

(05:20):
to my mom, Well, Mom, Adam and Eve were created,
you know, in seven days and these things happened, But
what about the dinosaurs?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I would get I would always you know, I had
like I was curious, but I'm saying, but how does
in seven days there's this Paleolithic period? And my mom
was so gentle with me. She would say, well, I
don't know, Amanda. You know, God works in mysterious ways.
She didn't know how Like she she knew what she believed,
she knew her set of of belief systems that were

(05:51):
really hardwired into her from her childhood. But she gave
me space to ask questions and also to say, I
don't know, you know, keep asking questions. She encouraged me
to seek. And what was really interesting is when I
got to undergrad in college, I thought I was going
to be a doctor, and I was a biology major,

(06:13):
and I had to take these humanities courses. And in
one of my humanities courses, we had a guest religion professor,
and I was fascinated when he was talking about world religions,
how they integrated into history and politics and the development
of religion and societies and all of the kind of

(06:33):
philosophical theological background behind that. And I marched into his
office and I said, I want to be a religion major.
And he said, you've never taken a religion class. You're
a biology major. And I said, I know the sciences.
I'm so bored, I can do them. I'm not fired up,
but I'm totally inspired. And I talked him into that
next semester taking an intro class and an advanced class,

(06:56):
and sure enough, I became a religion major. And I
was seeking and searching and learning. But my biggest challenge,
and I always have had these intuitive gifts, I did
not know how to communicate them. I have seen spirits
from a young age. I would get insights, I would
know things. My main gift is clear cognizance, so I
get these downloads of information that come in code and

(07:18):
light and energy and I just know things. I know
things immediately, and I didn't understand that for a long time,
so I end up getting I loved my religion, courses
and understanding religion, but I was always searching for God.
I had faith, I believed in God, I had my

(07:38):
Christian background. All of these things were happening, but it
took a very dark night of the soul for me
and all of my just shadow nasty old behaviors that
were coming out sideways, for those to just erupt years later,
and for me to hit a breaking point and a

(07:59):
rock bottom, you know, in my early thirties, my late twenties,
early thirties. I'm an overachiever, perfectionist type, a need for speed,
all the things, and I had just I would prefer,
you know, positive feedback versus getting in trouble. I'm super
sensitive like you are. You're extremely sensitive like and whenever

(08:21):
sensitivity comes through, it's not weakness. It's just that we
feel things empathically and deeply, and we internalize them and
shove them down. And I had been shoving so much
old pain and stuff down for so long that drugs
and alcohol became my outlet. And I lived this double life.
I was very successful in healthcare. I loved my job,

(08:41):
I worked hard, I was competent, but I was also
I was in a toxic relationship. My spirit was beaten down.
I was not being true to myself. I hadn't done
any real personal healing work, and essentially, drugs and alcohol
took me down very rapidly in my early thirties and

(09:02):
I hit a rock bottom. But when I made this
decision to heal, I want to get sober, I want
to live, I want to really root out all this stuff.
I had this complete spiritual awakening and as I you know,
really surrendered and really just dropped all the mask and
all the pain and started digging and doing the work

(09:24):
my all of the searching I had been doing for
God and really experiencing God, recognizing a higher power, feeling
it flow through me. I had been looking at it
for it in all the not wrong places, but all
these external places, whether you know it was in education
or work or relationships, or I mean in a multitude

(09:48):
of alcohol and drugs obviously, And when I hit that
bottom and made the decision that I was here, I
was here for a reason, and it was bigger than me.
It was like my my higher self. So there's like
God and for me, my higher self, for my higher
consciousness flowed through and said, ah, we've been waiting for

(10:10):
you to tap in. You've been looking in all these
You've been seeking and searching in all these places, and
it was right inside you all along. All you needed
to do was say, I'm making a decision. I'm ready.
I'm open to heal, to grow, to expand to give.
And it was like my psychic gifts, apart from the

(10:30):
healing and recovery work I committed to, my psychic gifts
started flooding through at a rate that was overwhelming and
abundance where I couldn't deny it. And there's there's a
story with that, But that's a little bit of how
I got to this place of being open to really

(10:50):
utilizing my God given gifts and talent, but from a
place of health, wellness, light, love, healing, and then helping
other people in their supporting other people in their journey.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, I resonate so much with everything you just said.
That was so I mean, it's so interesting when you
hear someone else say a story that resonates with your
own journey. It's healing in and of itself for some reason.
I don't know if it's the connection piece or we
feel less isolated. But it's so interesting because I think
a lot of people listening. I assume a lot of
my audience is similar to us in that way, And

(11:23):
there's a lot of sensitive, empathic people who listen to
this podcast because I think we're all kind of looking
a lot of times as the seekers, and you know, you.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Need the like the voice to put a words to what.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
It is you're feeling, because it's so overwhelming to be
such a sensitive person in this world until you learn
kind of how to channel it and use it. And
I did the same thing in my life. It was
all about the external seeking and the accomplishments and the
jobs and all this stuff, and until it fell apart,
which we talked about a little bit before the podcast,

(11:58):
and it fell apart for me, you know, over in
stages over a decade, and it was like I thought
I had hit a bottom, and then I would hit
another bottom, and then I would hit another bottom, and
it was like, good God, how many bottoms can one
person have? But when you get so stripped down and
so all the things get ripped away, I think you
are left with yourself, and so you have this choice,

(12:20):
and it's like, Okay, am I going to actually get
to know me and listen to all the things that
have been happening in my head, my entire life, or
my body or whatever. For me, it's a lot of
body like intuition and feeling. But I'm like you, I've
always had it. I have always had that. I will
walk in a room and know what's happening in the
room before anyone speaks. But I couldn't really tap into it.

(12:45):
And I think I'm still tapping into it, Like how
deep it is until I removed all the things that
I was using to kind of try to replace or
calm those energies in my life.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Absolutely? And if you want just some insight one of
the things they are showing me. And by the way,
just for your audience. Whenever I say they, I've always
used this word for the higher consciousness, someone's higher consciousness,
whether I'm in a group and working in a group setting,
or I'm individually working, someone's higher self, their soul, their
essence that is connected to the divine, to their higher power,

(13:20):
to God shows up. As I call it. They it's
like a choir of who you are, every version of
you that ever was and ever will be. It's not
masculine or feminine. It's not linear. It's just so when
I say they, they is you, your higher self. But
what they are showing me for you is from a
very young age. And you're talking about your clear sentience,

(13:42):
taking things on, physically internalizing things from a very young age.
You came in very adult like meaning almost like and
this is just the truth. Is I'm older than my parents.
I love them, but I'm older than them. I seem
to know better or no differently or I just know
our gosh, that doesn't feel right. And it was very

(14:03):
hard for you to discern your parents' feelings and emotions
from your own. And you had this deep wisdom, I mean,
you're not a young soul, a deep rooted purpose and
meaning and urgency within you. And then it was very
clouded by all the feelings and the just the stuff
and the life and the drama and the mess. And
so you started receiving value through your parents and supporting

(14:27):
and loving on them and helping kind of bring things
into equilibrium, balance things out. Is this making sense? Like
you're a stabilizer, and I'm like, and the thing is,
and you and I were talking about this before the podcast.
Our parents, you know who whatever your parents are like
out there, they all teach us things. And sometimes it's

(14:50):
through the school of hard knocks. Sometimes it's through too
much love and micro management. But whatever it is, they
are gifting us skill sets and how we utilize them
and what we're learning through them. But you've been in
a stage of remembering who you are and it got
so clouded in like in your world when you were younger,

(15:12):
that you were taking on your parents and your family's emotions,
and you're like, I just got to get out of here,
Like I just got to get out of here. I
break free. And you're a freedom seeker. You love stability
and balance and order, but there is a part in
you that's like, I have to remove myself and create
my own life and figure out how to love my

(15:33):
family for who they are, have relationships and connections, but
also not feel guilty about making a stand for myself.
Does that resonate.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Every single thing you just said? As satispot on, my
parents used to even say to me, we feel like
you're more mature than us. I mean, they said it
to me my whole life, and it was like this
interesting thing where I was a kid, and I remember
they would be going through something and I would have
I would input, like I would have some sort of
weird I have to say this to y'all or you

(16:04):
know what, Like I knew how to handle certain things.
Obviously as a kid, I didn't know a lot all
of it, but like there would be these knowings that
I just had, and then I do think I got
into that role. I mean, the other thing they always
said to me was you were such a joy and
you like definitely bring so much joy to our entire family,
even extended. And I would ebb and flow with the

(16:27):
pressure of that and not wanting it into them, like
it is a huge skill set, you know kind of thing,
and so I would kind of go vacillate back and forth,
back and forth, especially like in my twenties, I was like,
I don't want to be.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
A joy, you know. It was like the rebellious time.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, but now I can you know, channel that energy
or the love capacity that I have or anything like
that into a good thing. But yeah, that was one
of the things they would say to me, and I
think that was how I found my way through taking
on everyone's energy because I didn't know how to not
do that as a kid. And you can't explain that

(17:02):
because you don't even get it, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
So.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
You're feeling yeah, and so many people, I know your
listeners relate to picking up feelings and attributes and things
in our environment and from our parents. But for you,
and for many people out there, but for you, innately,
you came in with this knowing and this purpose and
not that you could define it at four or five

(17:26):
years old. But I'm here to do something. I'm here
to be significant, and I don't necessarily need to be
the center of attention, but all eyes are on me.
And that is probably one of your greatest storylines in
this lifetime. Is you naturally shine. People naturally see you.
You do not go unnoticed. And it's not that you
are it's you definitely are very much a leader, and

(17:48):
you know how to jump in and take charge and
take the reins. But leadership and being seen and out
in front is not your mo. But it just happens
like people look to you just like your parents. You know,
they knew you were wise, and so they automatically not
that they were asking for certain input on big decisions,
but the example you gave you couldn't go unnoticed, and

(18:12):
you already felt wise. So it was like you said,
the pressure of I'm gonna be the joy that they
said I am, and I'm gonna be this wise person,
and You're like, crap, I just want to be freaking Kelly.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I just want to be Kelly and be able to
give those gifts, but at on my terms, so I
don't feel like I'm just always shining my light. Because
the other thing about you is and you and I
talked a little bit about this beforehand when we were
talking about you styling and styling and so I want

(18:45):
to go there.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I've got to know this.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So if for anyone listening who doesn't know what I
do for the you know, on the day to day,
I am a hair and makeup artist and also a stylist.
And I was telling Amanda before the podcast, I have
I used to work with both men and women, and
I've been in this business. Gosh, I'm almost twenty years now,
and so over time to kind of streamline my business,

(19:08):
have a niche and also it was just sort of
where my client base was at the time, I decided
I would specifically start to focus on only working with men.
And when I told Amanda that, she started laughing and
she said, oh, I know why. And I was like, okay,
tell me on the podcast, but I am dying to know.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
So why. Okay. It's layered, but it's it's pretty clear
a couple of things. When you are in your voice,
when you are in your true voice, in your light,
and you're doing your thing. You know, because you are
extremely curative, meaning like you like to curate, you like
to esthetically create, you can see the vision come together
when you are in that creative you are channeling. That

(19:44):
is part of your intuitive gift because and you it's
like spontaneous and you're like, oh yes, and this and
this needs to go here. It just it's like you're
in your flow with men most of the time, not
all men, but the men that you jive with. You
command that feminine energy that is also divinely masculine. So

(20:05):
it's like it is very balanced, meaning the like guys
like okay, tell me what to do, like tell me
how this needs to look. Wait, just fix it, Like
I just want to feel comfortable in what I'm wearing
and look cool like and you're just like do this,
do this, Nope, take that off, hold on, let me
fix this back. And they're like huh, thank you, and
like they have their masculine energy, but they let their

(20:26):
guard down and you just go in and you don't
overpower them, but yet you but yet they respect you.
You command respect. And with women and it's not all women,
and not that you wouldn't if I was like, Kelly,
I need you to style me, you like, yeah, it's
not that you wouldn't do that and we wouldn't jive,

(20:47):
but a lot of times women end up being a
little bit jealous of you, a little bit like there's
a jealousy and you've dealt with this your whole life.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Oh my wish freaking out.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
I mean, I can feel it. And it's what happened
is you're so in your light, your god given gifts,
and you shine and you just do and you and
you're your most joyful when you're doing that. You know,
like your joy that your parents said, you're in your joy.
And when we are in things like our love, our compassion,
our joy, our enthusiasm, it is inspired. Well it's almost like,

(21:21):
oh shoot, she's gonna shine brighter than me. Oh my gosh,
I'm not gonna look as pretty as Kelly does. And
I'm not being superficial. It's like these are the things
that women who are not secure in who they are
sometimes and there's no shade that I'm throwing, and it's
sometimes it's very unconscious, like it's you can alive with
a female and they can love you and y'all can

(21:42):
be great friends, but then they end up feeling not
as beautiful and it has nothing to do with you
or your talent. It's just your magnetism there. It's like
your divine light shines and it's too much. And with
men it balances them out and they are like do it.
I need the help show me. Okay, good, good deal.
I trust you. And that is that the.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Way it is coming through.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So you don't understand the freedom you just gave me
because so many times and even the people listening to
this podcast have seen that play out publicly on national television,
Like it literally has been a situation in my life
where I've had this feeling of wait what you know,

(22:25):
like that like what what when they get mad at me?
Or the jealousy thing or whatever, because the people in
my life, the women who are in my life that
are secure, know that I am the biggest hype girl
as a friend that you could ever have around, Like
I want all my friends to succeed and excel, and
like I am just their biggest champion. And so when
I'm getting hit with the other energy, it's so confusing

(22:47):
to me because I don't really feel competitive with other
women like that.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
You and I share this. You and I share this,
and this makes a lot of sense that I'm going
to communicate it to you this way.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
One of your intuit of gifts and this goes back
to you being wise when you were young and your
parents seeing it. And also you're healing journey with people
you may not forget, but you're very forgiving. You want
to be able to see both sides and things and
even too forgiving. Yep, even people that you love that
let you down over and over, you will accommodate and

(23:19):
to the point of it blows back on you and
you get angry, but but you usually this is your
gift is you can see someone's potential. So when you
have a girlfriend, when you're talking about your mom or
a family member or an ex you can see, You're like, wow,
I see that they're human, I see that they're messy.

(23:39):
But gosh, can't they just see their talent the way
I see it? Gosh, don't they get how magnetic they
are or really articulate they are? Why are they intimidated
by me? I'm actually rooting them on. Can't they just
be themselves? And here's the other thing with you is
you never wanted to grow up to be anybody else.
You just wanted to grow up to be kele Yes.

(24:00):
And like it's like, I don't want to be you.
I want to enhance you. I want to help you
be more beautiful. I want to help you shine. I
am your fan girl. And then people are intimidated by
that amount of compassion, that amount of its intuition that
you can see into their soul, and they get afraid
that you can see the darkness too, because we all

(24:20):
have all of our crack. Of course, yes, it's what
makes the light bright is all the darn darkness.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That is so true.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Though, because I think a lot of times with women,
and a lot of this could even be programming from
our culture. But like we're taught to compete with each other, right,
Like if one woman's light is shining bright, that means
in our head or we're taught that that means that
there's not enough space for ours to sign to shine too.
And one of the things as I've gotten older that
I've known is like, no, there's this infinite supply of

(24:54):
space and energy, and like we don't have to compete
with each other because if one woman's growing there, that
just creates more space for us to grow too, you know.
And I do think though that we have a lot
of unlearning to do around that mentality. And men, though,
don't feel threatened by it. They're like, how is this.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Going to help me?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
And maybe it's not doesn't sound I have to be
as selfish as how I just said it, But I
do feel the energy with men that I have is
almost like I always refer to myself as this like
security blanket for them, Like all of my men male clients,
I do feel that, yes, they like what I do
work wise and whatever, but it's also an energy exchange,

(25:35):
just like you're saying, And there's something about what my
energy feels like to them before they go walk out
on like these huge stages that feels comforting and they're like, Okay,
I'm at my best self and they can go and
then they can do their job. So I've started even
feeling like that, Okay, that's a skill set of my
hair and makeup business, but it has nothing to do
with the actual hair and makeup.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
It's energy, yes, And also the other thing just your
energy field and where you are in your personal and
spiritual path. There's a balance with your clients right now,
and these male clients because you don't feel like you
take on their crap. Now. It's like as for as

(26:16):
empathetic as you are and taking on energy, you feel
like you walk in you know your aura is strong.
You get to radiate through it and you get to
support them, and they get to also recognize you, see
you appreciate you, and it's an exchange of love and
they Your soul just said this very clearly, is you

(26:37):
came down to learn love. You came down to not
just be generous of heart and giving. And you and
I talked a little bit about our generosity, which can
be a double edged sword because we give and give
and give and then feel depleted. Right, But you came
down not only to give love, but to really feel
loved through friendship, through relationship, through connection, and those relationships,

(27:03):
especially the ones you have right now where you feel
like you go in and it just makes sense, it's easy.
Those are all really propelling you on this path forward
personally and professionally. Right now, you have new doors that
are opening this year. The next two years are like
change over years. This is an amp up year where
you're saying yes to some new things. There's change, new

(27:26):
doors are opening, and also as far as love goes,
do you want to you want to talk about this?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Obviously tell me everything.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Okay, Well, I like I got this vision before we
got on the call, Like it just came to me
and I was just like putting on some mascara and
I was like, oh okay. I was like, I think
you're going to meet someone. And I feel like it's
either later in this year, and it may not be
later in the year, it maybe early next year. But
whoever this person is is not in the entertainment industry,

(27:57):
Okay they are, And like I know this sound it's
gonna sound funny. It's like they're a builder, and I
don't know if they actually build homes, if they're an engineer,
if they're an architect, if they are some kind of developer,
but whatever they do is very They build things, and
they build substantial things to last, and there is a
kind of and they're just cool as far as they

(28:20):
like to build things that are sustainable and outdoors and
eco friendly, and there's a vision to whoever it is
is like a really good looking guy, by the way,
So by the way, he's good looking, and you know,
I mean you can style him up a little bit,
like I'm just gonna need a little judging, but you
know that you haven't got that part of it. But like,

(28:40):
whoever it is like wants to build community, wants to
build like friendship and community, and wants to design and
build communities. So I feel like in work somehow that
is related to their work and you will, like you'll
meet them through some new opportunities that are coming for
you professionally. So that is all coming. And they're saying,

(29:05):
right now, don't even think about it. I mean, you
can date, you can go out with people, but right
now you are your best source of joy and happiness.
And also like this is a business year for you
being like feeling so like even though you may get
discouraged at points or exhausted and depleted honor that you

(29:29):
know and justa okay, it's quality over quantity, and your
creativity will surge back. The doors will open exactly when
they're supposed to. But you're going to feel so amped
up and motivated professionally this year and wanting to create,
wanting to innovate, wanting to step into some new arenas,
and those doors will be open through the multitude of

(29:49):
connections you've made. Old connections will pay out. People will
show back up in your life. And I don't mean
toxic stuff in relationships. I just mean relationships that you've
had that are long term. Oh my gosh, we should
talk to Kelly about this. And then you get a
call out of the blue. It's like a lot of
right place, right time energy that's gonna surprise you, but

(30:10):
not surprise you because you're gonna be like, oh my gosh,
it was just thinking that. And I will tell you
this as far as this love thing goes and business.
I remember asking you before the segment we were talking
about your work, and you were like, I do hair,
makeup and styling. The other thing they showed me before
we got on the call is I can see you

(30:31):
doing like curating a space. So if it's like a
layout for a magazine or a photo shoot where it's
interior design and someone's home, I feel like you're going
to get into some sort of home aesthetic design, aesthetics
and interiors. So just know when that pops up, and

(30:54):
it's not anything you have to like pursue or explore,
but somebody's gonna say, gosh, I mean I feel like
a need to redecorate my living room and you're like, well,
let's go shopping, let's do that, and it's just gonna happen,
and then you're gonna have fun. And there's stuff that's
coming around like aesthetics in home and home interior aesthetics.

(31:16):
And I don't mean you're going to be opening in
a home design place, but it's going to emerge as
a talent and something that's actually lucrative for you. That's organic.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh that is fascinating.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, Well, I want to touch on this one topic
and I'm trying to think of how I want to
say it, but you just did it in what you
were telling me. Because I love all of that stuff
and I actually have a knowing that someone's coming to
I don't, so I don't. He must be getting ready
for me, and I must be getting ready for him.
I also don't feel the surge today right now. And

(31:48):
it's weird because you know, I was in a relationship
that ended about I think probably four or five months ago,
and my friends are kind of like, well have you
been on apps?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Have you been you know the thing?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And at first I felt like, Okay, I need to
go do this and I need to get.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Back out there.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Whatever the pressure we put on ourselves from society, I guess,
and it's just not working right Like, I haven't met
anyone I'm interested in. I haven't even wanted to go
on a date. And because of the work that I've
been doing in the last couple of years and just
connecting with myself, I'm now in this place where I'm like, Okay, well,
it's just not time for me to date then, because
it's not coming to me easy. And so for me now,

(32:26):
I'm interpreting the things in my life like that as like, oh,
it's just not the right time.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Then.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
You also touched on there are things leaving my life
and even the clients that I do have right now,
and what I will say about for the first time
in my career, everyone that I'm currently working with, I
feel so aligned on a soul level and it just
feels easy and right. And I do feel a love
exchange every time I go to work, which sounds so

(32:54):
probably silly to a lot of people, but it feels
like that, like that's what they showed me.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
It was like, yes, it's love. And there are so
many forms of love. You know, we think we go
we default too romantic love, but when you think about
your childhood best friend, or your pets or yes, your parents,
and then there's divine love, which is this is miraculous.
Oh my gosh, I feel connected. Oh I trust him

(33:19):
exactly where I'm supposed to be. Thank you God, Thank
you angels, thank you guides, thank you. You know, there's
there are so many forms of love and for you,
relationships right now and your work dynamic are so they're
so entrenched in a really healthy way that it's like
this is love and also joy back to you. You're coming,

(33:39):
you know, like you were saying, you're family, labeling you
with You're just so joyful to be on you are,
but you're you're coming into this space where your joy
gets to be expressed through your life, your vocation, the
way you interact with people, and when you feel joyful,
when you feel that love exchange, you know, oh, I'm

(34:01):
right on track. Oh I am enjoying this. And the
other thing is you don't feel depleted because you give
and you get it actually feels revitalizing it. And I
understand that because I can have. I mean, I read
for thousands of people, and I love what I do.
But I know when I get run down or burnout
and I have too much on my plate and I

(34:23):
pile too much on and put too much pressure on myself.
It's all self imposed. But when I do that, I
can be like, oh my gosh, what do I have
on my plate today? And I don't ever want to
come at my work and clients in that vein. But
when I'm feeling that way, it's just because I'm human.
I'm taking on too much. So when I readjust and

(34:45):
I set intentions around the clients that come to me,
the people that I am attracting, that it will be
reciprocal and synergistic and revitalizing. When I am giving generously,
I am also feeling this exchange and I tell you what,
more often than not, I can have a day that
is slammed and abundant and busy, and I can be

(35:06):
on cloud nine and energetic versus feeling like shul I've
been going since you know, five am this morning. I
can feel totally hyped up and motivated. But it feels easy. True?
Does that? Because I know for you, I feel really depleted. People.
You have to have your solitary time, your downtime, your

(35:28):
alone time. Does that makes it?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
It makes total sense? And I have like these rituals
that I do, or I take a lot of baths.
You know, my friends a making fun of me, but
I'm like it's the only place sometimes that I can
cleanse myself of other people's energy. But we keep getting
back to that word easy, And like you just said
it so perfectly. Because I can be working harder, it
doesn't mean my day itself is easier. It's energetically easier

(35:51):
because I'm receiving just as much as I'm giving, just
like what you said, and so it's a reciprocal energy.
It's not just taking from me. And that is something
I'm really trying to pay attention to because I actually
think the universe wants us to just be happy and
at ease.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's just the.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Way of our nature like that we should be, but
we tried to fight it. So oftener I have, I'll
keep it on myself. And that's what I'm saying also
about the not forcing and then allowing the things that
are not aligned to leave without the meltdowns. That's like
the huge thing for me because I used to have
such a maybe it was a fear or like you know,

(36:27):
I'm a tourist rising like I don't like change that much.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I just don't and.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
So it takes me a second to adjust to it
without panicking. But there are things leaving my life now
and I'm really trying to just kind of embrace that
because I am seeing such ease in other areas and
I'm like, this is how it's supposed to be. So
I would say to people listening too, like if you're
in a space where things aren't working out, get really

(36:54):
fucking quiet and get comfortable in that space, because sometimes
that's just what we're supposed to do, is nothing like
just to listen. That's how I feel at least. What
would you say to that?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Absolutely? And you know, one of the things that we
all forget. I mean, you said it beautifully, like get
fucking quiet and still and just sit in the discomfort
for a little bit. It takes us twelve to eighteen
seconds to process an emotion. And most of us are
moving at the rate of you know, lightning, because we're busy,
and we pile stuff on and we have pressures and responsibilities,

(37:27):
all of this stuff that piles on, and that we
think if we're not running ninety five miles an hour,
we're not enough, or we're not contributing, or we're missing
the mark. All the beliefs that we accumulate. But it
takes a very short time to actually acknowledge and process
an emotion. It doesn't mean that if you're frustrated and
you process your frustration, you're you're just going to totally

(37:49):
heal the feeling of frustration. But when you process it
in real time and sit down and say what is that?
And I always tell people, get one of those darn
emotional charts, you know, the wheel, and it has so
many emotions and be able to say, Okay, I'm feeling irritable,
I'm feeling sad, I'm feeling disillusioned, like name the two

(38:10):
three or four emotions in your discomfort and be like, oh,
that's what that is. And it's like it's like a
Eureka moment. It doesn't feel comfortable, but when you identify
it and then like you saying, you know you feel
things deeply in your body. If you can say, whoa,
my jaw is really tight, or wow, I feel this

(38:33):
in my lower back or gosh, you know, my my
joints feel really stiff or they're really hurting. If you
can look at the discomfort, acknowledge it, maybe name the
emotional components that you're feeling, and then even go deeper
and just say where is this showing up in my body?
You don't have to heal it or do anything. That

(38:55):
awareness that mind body connection in a very short period
of time, in like a minute or two, and to
actually create some pretty profound shifts in your consciousness, in
your intuition, and then the environment you're engaging in. It
can have a ripple effect. So just simple awareness and

(39:16):
being willing to sit with your discomfort, whatever it is,
just for thirty.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Seconds, which really is not long.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Our society really does teach us that discomfort of any
kind is negative, and to that I would say, I
get it, but also or but and also the things
that I'm really trying to understand or pay attention to
and acknowledge when it comes up in my life, just
have awareness about is when I am uncomfortable like naming it,

(39:49):
just like you're saying, and then.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Why is it here? There's always a.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Reason, you know, Like I just think life is a
constant teacher if we're willing to accept that and open
ourselves up to it, but we try to like pass
through it, like you and I discuss both doing over
the years, and it's like if you can get quiet.
The reason I said that is just because there's a
reason it's there, and if you can start talking to
it and understanding it, then it does set you up

(40:13):
better for the times like you're telling me that I
have coming, Like.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
With this dating stuff. That's the perfect example.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I can go on a bunch of dates right now,
but I have a knowing too, like it is not
that's not going to be my guy.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I just know it.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, So if I feel led to do it, I'm
gonna do it. If I don't, I'm not. And I
just feel like I'm going to know exactly when it's
the right person that I need to put that energy
into or when he enters my life or whatever it is.
And it's going to be easy and I'm not going
to have to force it absolutely.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
And like you just said about understanding why we are
in numerology, we're in an eight universal year. If you
add twenty twenty four up, and I know that you're
into this, and sure your listeners are diving in. You know, no,
numbers are my gateway. I've just always understood numbers as codes.

(41:04):
They help me drop into a different state of consciousness
and brain frequency. But we're in an eight year, and
if you draw an eight on your piece of paper,
it has no beginning and no ending, just like the zero,
so it is in constant motion. But the big energy
of the eight is really learning through a lot of contrast,
which means if like you were saying, why does this

(41:27):
feeling keep coming up or this experience, you know, looking
for those patterns, so say it's we were talking about
ease for you, you know, frustration, So what is the
opposite of ease, frustration or irritability or disease when you're
feeling those things saying, oh my gosh, I'm feeling really,
really unhappy right now, like I am unhappy, I am angry,

(41:50):
you know, whatever is coming up and saying okay, I'm
willing to sit with that. And then what am I
learning through contrast? If I'm experiencing discontent, unhappyness, anger, what
is the opposite of those things? What is the universe?
What is spirit trying to show me that I am
processing because I'm reaching for the opposite the contrast. I'm

(42:12):
wanting happiness. I'm wanting more joy, whatever it may be.
So any discomfort and disease that comes up, take a
moment for it, and then say, wait a minute, let
me get my posaurus out. What's the opposite? What is
the antonym of this word? And see what words resonate
and be like, okay, that's what I'm looking for in

(42:33):
my life, which means let me buckle down and start
to process relationships that exacerbate this emotion, experiences in work,
when I get around my family and you know, these
things come up over and over again. How do I
take responsibility for it and start to process it? And
then how do I shift my actions, my attitude, you know,

(42:54):
my my personality And I'm not saying change your personality,
but how do I start to shift my I experience,
my perspective, and my intentions to call in that contrasting energy,
and it the more rapidly you do it, the more
cognizantly you do it, I guess, the more resiliently would
be a better word. The clearer it will get. Because

(43:15):
there's so much shifting in the energy field. We're in
a clipse season, we've got a mercury retrograde coming, we
have this massive Jupiter and Urinus conjunction. There's so much
happening energetically and consciously that our personal practices spiritually and

(43:37):
our own healing practices right now are imperative and again
going back to developing our intuition, being able to clean
out some of the gunk and mess so we can
trust our intuition better and more. And you've been doing that,
especially with your clear sentience, your empathic traits and abilities

(43:58):
that are your intuition. Being able to work on yourself
clear things internally, so you start to attract relationships in
that feel more loving, more aligned, and that is a
testament to you doing your healing work, but also starting
to really recognize your intuitive gifts and incorporating them in

(44:20):
your day to day experiences.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Oof. I think that's why I get so upset looking
at our culture and how we put this pressure on ourselves,
especially as women, to get married by a certain age,
to have kids by a certain age. Because everything you
just said is like, it's so and everything you've said
in this podcast about my story, it's so specific to
my own journey, right, And like if I had tried

(44:44):
to fit myself into a little box, which I have
fit myself into a little box of what I thought
it should look like, I would miss all of this stuff.
And it's why I speak so specifically about to me
the importance of getting to know yourself and be with
yourself in relationship. That has changed my entire life. I
could sit here and go, I don't want to be

(45:05):
as sensitive. And I fought it for so many years.
Let me tell you, Like, I literally saw what I
thought a successful woman looked like, and I chased after
that model and that business plan, and it didn't work
for me. It exploded because and I was so depleted.
That was the main thing. I had such a massive breakdown.
But then it forced me into Okay, what do I

(45:26):
do with all this sensitivity? And I still have days
where I'm like, I don't want to fucking feel this,
Like I am so tired of being a cancer sun
Pisc's moon. I don't want it, Like why do I
have to feel everyone else's feelings? I mean, I've started
kind of channeling random people's feelings from very traumatic experiences

(45:47):
and it's wild and I don't know what to do
with it yet, but those things are happening, and sometimes
I'm overwhelmed by it, like you were saying. And I'm
also getting to the place where I'm like, this is
direct communication with the high higher self, my higher power,
the universe, and I'm going to stay open to whatever
it is I'm sposed to do with this and embracing

(46:07):
those qualities as a positive versus trying to change myself
because you can't, like that is the stuff I came here,
like it's on purpose.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
You did, and you came for these lessons. I mean, hello,
freaking cancer sun and Pisce's moon. It's a lot of water,
it's a lot of intuition, but it's so many feels
that you know it is imperative, you know, I mean
you said you have a Taurus rising, but getting grounded,
being practical and also stepping back and analyzing things using

(46:39):
your air qualities, you know, incorporating all of your toolkit
in order to harness your abilities as an EmPATH and
also be an example for others. And that's what they
keep showing me is so much of your experience, your
journey and what you're going through, you relate to other people.

(47:00):
Other people find your healing qualities for goodness sakes, cancer
and pipe, I mean, hello, healer, Like there's a lot
of that. And you're like, I don't want to be
a healer. I don't all right path and you're and
God's like, ha ha ha, fokes on you, Kelly. You
know it's like, I mean, like, that's just how it goes.
And you're until you embrace it and say okay, And

(47:23):
and then the people who love you, the people who
get you, the people that you feel like you can
be yourself around, are okay when you say, hey, guys,
I'm out like or I'm feeling too much or you
know what, this is too much for me. So you
get to set your boundaries and you know that that
is imperative for you to say I'm gonna go take
my bath or you know what, I don't need to
go out with you all tonight. It's been a long

(47:44):
day and I just need to be with myself. So
your boundaries are imperative. And whoever this guy is that
you meet, just so you know this person, because it's
like your person, he's gonna have he's gonna be like
and in a really healthy way, not a not a
controlling way, very sensitive no no no, but not in

(48:07):
a grounding way like let's go do this. Don't you
want to go do this? Do you want to go?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Do this?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Like very much? That Actually somebody when you say to them, hey,
what do you think about this? I don't know if
I like it? You know, I mean, they're just they're
gonna shoot straight, and it's that it's just they say
what they mean to mean what they say. So you're
gonna like that a whole lot. But this person also
has really good boundaries, like like when you're at a
party and of course they can go mingle and you

(48:34):
can mingle, and you love that interdependence where you know
you're not babysitting somebody and whatnot. But also it's the
person that comes up to you and says, hey, are
you ready to go? In like ten minutes. Okay, say
you're good byeyes, cause I'm kind of ready and you were,
of course already ready.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
No, I was gonna be always be like yes, Like
it's like.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
They're gonna cut you know, you're gonna be able to
go and go enjoy and be in the world. And
then both of you at the same time are like, ugh,
we're done. We gotta go our time. And so whoever
they are is not only aware of their own limits
and boundaries and when they've had enough of something or
when something is at its expiration date, they're also going

(49:13):
to be very cognizant that you are feeling your feels
too or you've had enough and they're like, hey, let's
get out of here. So there's something to do with boundaries, okay,
and communication that is going to be very strong in
this person and also something that you crave in friendships
or relationships.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yes, I mean like talk about you just describe my dream. Guys,
so grateful that's what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Good.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
No, I mean like that's what's coming through. But you're
also getting And this is for everybody out there, the
more clear we get about ourselves and what works, and
like Kelly's saying, well, I didn't want to be an EmPATH,
but obviously this is what God has gifted me in
this lifetime. So I'm going to embrace it. I'm going
to figure out how to work with it and be
true to it. The clearer we get about our challenges

(50:03):
and our gifts alike, you know, the icky behaviors and
working on those but also being honest about those with
other people a big thing for me like that. It's
just a simple example is when I get impatient. I'm
very generous with people out in the world, but I
am impatient. I'm always thinking fast and thinking things through,

(50:23):
and I'm five steps ahead. So it comes out sideways
in like my like my family relationships or with my husband,
because I can look really aloof and standoffish and hyper
focused on something, and so I'll just have this whole
body language to me where I'm doing something and I'm
in my lane, and I've recognized that it comes across

(50:44):
and other people take it personally like I'm not paying
attention to them, or they're not important, or I'm just unaware.
And I've gotten to where I just use disclaimers with people. Hey,
if I'm irritable right now or if I'm impatient or
standoffish or hyper focused and not talking to you, I'm
trying to finish something up. Give me five minutes or
let me come in here and get this done, and

(51:05):
then I'm all yours all. I will be present. Like
I use disclaimers with my mood, swings, my behaviors, my
attitudes because I'm self aware and I don't want anybody
to project it. I don't want to project it that much.
We all project, but I don't want to project. But
I also I don't want other people to misinterpret and

(51:27):
take it on as their stuff either. So I'm very
clear I'm in a mood right now. I need a
few minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, yeah, And I do think that comes with getting
to know yourself, because I've been doing it a lot too.
I cancel plans now, even when I feel guilty about it.
And another thing that I've realized is because of how
sensitive I am. If I'm not taking care of that
first and foremost or listening to it, those are the

(51:52):
times where I have to reach for another drink or
something because I can't tolerate it still. Like I'll tell myself,
you need to power through right now. You can't skip
this event whatever. But it's when I look back at
my old behaviors in my life and I'm like, oh,
that was because I was forcing myself to do all
these things I didn't want to do. That was why
I needed to drink that alcohol. And now if I'm

(52:13):
not doing that, then I don't need the alcohol. Like
It's like I needed these medicators in my life that
I don't want to use anymore for that. And so
the more I've gotten to know myself and set the
right boundaries with and embrace the skill the things that
are of me as skill sets not detriments. Yes, I
just find that like everyone in my life is even

(52:35):
responding to it. It's fine. I feel more in my
body at most times. I mean I definitely leave sometimes,
but like, for the most part, way more than I
used to. And that is such a freeing feeling, it
really is. It's the most the best feeling. And like
you said, you do end up bringing in things then
that are more aligned with that version of yourself.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Yeah, And we're in Like with the astrology, the north
noe of the moon is in air, so the south
note is in libra, which means in general for us,
we are evolving towards a more courageous individuality and voice,
but also in honoring the South note of Libra relationships, balance, harmony, collaboration.

(53:17):
We are learning I have a really good friend, and
this is the way she says it, stand up for
yourself and not against the other person, meaning I speak
my truth, I show up, I use my authentic voice.
Even if I'm struggling or I'm excited about something, I
use my voice, and then I find ways to collaborate.
I find ways to connect healthier. So the more that

(53:39):
we honor our truth, even if it's painful or uncomfortable
right now, and we communicate it to people, the people
around us will stay who are intended to be in
our tribe, in our crew, in our energy field, and
the other ones like you are saying in your personal
experience will start to all away, and relationship will and hello,

(54:02):
we just had a Libra full moon eclipse. You know.
It is all about this, this dissolving of imbalances in relationship.
And they can be work relationships, they could be romantic,
they can be family friends. I mean, and it's not
about it being a negative thing. It's just that we're
shifting in vibration, and we are becoming more aware of

(54:26):
and attracted to energies that are more aligned with our
highest path, especially when we're aware and Awakeugh.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I just love this conversation so much as if you
guys are listening, I hope that it's coming across that
these are the reasons I'm constantly talking about, Like we
gotta just like shift our energy or let the stuff go,
let it fly freely, because it's all like mapped out.
I guess it's already mapped out. You can't force these things.

(54:55):
And when we try to do things the way we
have been in our society, which is where everyone's life
looks the same, there's a mold you're you're successful. If
you do it that way, we miss all the gifts
because we're not all the same, Like we are all
meant to do something different in this lifetime, whether it's
to take out the trash and be the janitor or

(55:16):
be you know, Beyonce. But they're all really important pieces
of the puzzle that is happening on this planet right now,
and it's exactly You're exactly where you're meant to be.
But the more we fight it, the more we miss it.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yeah, and there's room, like you said, for all of us,
this competitive nature that has been bred into us and
conditioned into us. It's I mean, hello, you have a
freaking Piscey's moon inclusion. That all makes so much sense
for you. But there's this element of there's enough room
for all of us, especially when we come from our

(55:51):
truth and we admit our shortcomings, or where when we
clean up our side of the street and we do
it swiftly and proly. This is a year where truly,
the energy this year says, you know, the quicker you
own your shit, you know, yeah for lack, the quicker
you own your bad moods, your bad behavior when you're dishonest.

(56:14):
It's not about worrying about it and like wringing your
hands over it or stewing. I mean, the longer you stew,
the more you'll create stew. The longer you whine, the
more whiny stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
It is a year where wherever you focus on grows
and it's happening hype at hyper speed. So it's like
the quicker you are to say, oh my gosh, I
was freaking wrong, Oh my gosh, I just lied and
said I couldn't do that because I was afraid to
say I didn't want to do that. Finding ways to
communicate without causing harm to other people, but to communicate

(56:45):
our truth or to own you know what, I didn't
tell you the truth about that, or you know what,
I forgot to show up. I just freaking flaked, you know,
just saying I totally flaked. And I'm sorry because I
really honor your time and I totally flaked on you.
I'm going to work on that and not do it again.
I'm sorry for disrupting your time. I mean, whatever it is,
the little stuff and the big stuff, if you can

(57:08):
resolutely own it, identify it, clean it up the quicker, better, faster,
you will feel like you are on your path, you're
in your meaning, you're in your purpose, and those things
are just available to us.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Well.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
All the different modalities we've kind of referenced in this podcast,
like we've done some astrology talk, we've had numerology obviously,
the psychic nature of things, and you getting like the
download that you're getting. I hope that it's coming across
to you guys, like you can work with it in
any way you want. What are some of the things
you see within people that when they first come to you, like,

(57:49):
like I said, I feel like a lot of people
are a little intimidated by oh my god, she's gonna
read me. So, like, what would you say as far
as maybe a comfort because you know, I want to
know about myself because helps me to get on the
path that I feel really like aligned with. And when
I say aligned, it's just more peaceful for me. It's
the path that I know is right for me, even

(58:10):
if it's not what I think I should be doing
or what I think the world wants to see me doing.
When I feel aligned, I know it in my body.
And so all of the work like that you're doing
other facilitators that do similar things are like comfort to
me because it just it's like a guidance and maybe
an outside voice that helps me. So what would you
say though to people who might be thinking about this

(58:32):
but just a little startled.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
First of all, like if you have never had a reading,
you know, and you're curious about getting a reading from someone,
first of all, just get curious and get open to it.
And if whatever your modality is, pray about it, set
some intentions. You know, I'm open to getting a reading. Hey,
align the ideal person in my path to show me

(58:56):
my highest light, my truth, my healing journey, you know,
set your ins and then like throw it out into
the field, and then all of a sudden, you're, you know,
gonna come across a podcast like this podcast, or you're
gonna be out in the world and somebody said, I
just had the most amazing astrological reading from this astrologer.
Whatever it comes, and you're like, oh my gosh, I

(59:16):
was just thinking I wanted to learn about my astrology.
And so it'll line up and you'll know. And I
always tell people, you know, I mean with clients, people
come to me when they're ready and when it's aligned,
and if they don't or they cancel or it doesn't
work out, it wasn't supposed to and I don't have
to ask the questions. It's always divinely aligned. But also

(59:39):
with readings, and especially if you are, I always tell
people the energy you get to feel when you know
you're aligned is mighty. You're excited, nervous, like a little
bit anxious, a little bit tried it like you It
shouldn't be you're in all this fear, because if you're
in shutdown fear, it's no fun for the person doing
the reading. We walk through quicksand and we're like, oh,

(01:00:01):
come on, this could be so much better and clearer
and easier, right, I mean, yeah, we love you and
we'll hold the space for you to do it. But
it's like you want to be a little curious, a
little skeptical, a little nervous, but also excited and wondrous
and like I'm open, I'm ready, like show me, and
not being afraid that whatever comes through is going to

(01:00:22):
be some damning, detrimental news because and it just depends
on who reads and what their gifts are. But the
way that I work and the way that my gift
works is I reflect back someone's highest path, which means
I can say, oh, my gosh, you're a control freak,
and I say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That with love.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yeah, but you know it, and they're like, oh so
am I don't want to be you know. So when
all of the challenging attributes and behaviors come through, they
come through in ways that are uniquely related to each
individual person that you can hear and that you want
to heal in order for you to create great fill
in the blank happiness, joy, peace, love, and the thing

(01:01:04):
about getting a reading or having a session with someone.
Is it's all about being open, being open to growth,
being open to new opportunities, getting curious, and also trusting
in the process of it, you know, like it's about
letting go. It's this fun and freedom and it doesn't

(01:01:27):
Also like with humans, we can be so analytical and
so pragmatic and so in that that that part of
our brain that just needs to know everything and know
exactly how it's going to play out. That's not how
intuition works. It's it's magical, it's a little elusive. It's
it's open for interpretation. So it's not about getting all

(01:01:49):
the facts. It's about it's about the journey, the story
if that if that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
It does make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
And it's also I think what you did for me
today was you just validated what I already new inside,
you know what I mean, Like it just helped for
me to hear you say all the instincts that I've
already had because I'm like, oh, okay, and I know
that we should, you know, trust ourselves and all the things,
and I do. And it's nice to be validated and
like kind of that little pap on the back from

(01:02:16):
the universe. Like you still got this, Like you're yes,
keep going, like go in the right direction, You're exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
That is my greatest gift is validating. I'm not telling
you anything you don't already know. Yes, I may be
able to validate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Something verbalize that may be a little more clear.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
I can verbalize it. I can pinpoint things in my
mediumship and like you know, I mean evidential mediumship, and
specific things will come through to validate, which helps just
with the credibility and the openness of somebody's energy field.
But in general, all I do with my gifts and
what like my talents are is being able to help

(01:02:51):
someone not only be seen, but to truly validate, know
and see themselves. And I say this, it's on my website,
but it's it's my favorite thing. Is all I want
to do is astound people with their innate abilities. I
want people to see the light I get to see
within them and to activate it, to use it and
to heal all the dark stuff and the messiness, and

(01:03:14):
to be really comfortable in that so you can actually
radiate all of your light to just follow your freaking bliss.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Oh my god, I have a bliss tattooed on my
wrist and it was from the quote following you just
told me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I was like, why did I say follow your bliss?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
And well, there you go, like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Your bliss. They were like, say follow your bliss. I
was like, where's that coming. I mean, I'm all about
Joseph Campbell and following your bliss. Yeah, but I'm like
it just came through. I was like, oh my god,
never said that with anyway, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
And if you guys are listening and you're still sort
of like this still sounds overwhelming, you do have a
podcast and so that could be a really great place
to start too, so similar to this where you could
get more information about the work that Amanda does. So
the podcast is called Soul Session, sol Session or Soul Sessions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Soul Sessions, Yes, Soul Sessions with Amanda riger Green Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
On the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yes. On the podcast if you are curious about your
first of all, your spirituality, and you're feeling like your
intuitive gifts are opening up and you're seeing repeating numbers,
or you're curious about working with spirit animals and animal
medicine or oracle cards, or you've got dreams coming through,
or auras and chakras, any of that stuff. All all

(01:04:35):
I do on the podcast is I talk about our
energy and I use very accessible tools and resources to
start breaking it down and to access it in your
day to day life in a really practical yet profoundly
magical and miraculous way, so you can start tapping in,
tuning in, and developing your own gifts. But the podcast

(01:04:59):
is fun, and sometimes I do live readings and we
do interviews, but a lot of times I talk about
the numerology and some of the astrology for the month,
so you get a little bit of a forecast, but
also you get a lot of practical insights to what's
going on in the collective and how to practically navigate
the energy fields and the things that we're all experiencing

(01:05:23):
and how it relates to you personally.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I feel like my listeners are going to be your
listeners because it's a lot of what's been the same
type of conversations I have on this podcast, So I'm
sure a lot of people listening are definitely going to happened.
I'd also know you have a live event coming up,
so can you tell listeners about that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Where is it what's happening? What's this about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
We've got a live event coming up. It's in Austin,
Texas on May seventh, and my website is sole Pathology,
So if you go to sole Pathology, the event is
there if you happen to live in Austin, Texas or
in the Texas area in early May. It's a live event.
It's like a live podcast. But we'll do a group reading,

(01:06:06):
I'll do individual readings and mediumship and it's just gonna
be a fun, high vibrational community where you get to
feel uplifted with your people, with people that are curious
and seeking but also really wanting to heal and grow.
So it should be a lot of fun. But yeah,

(01:06:26):
you can find it on soul pathology dot com and
that's where you can find me too, And I think
tons of blog stuff and resources and so there's lots
for people out there. If you're dipping your toe into this.
If numerology is turning you on, go for it. If
it's astrology, and of course whatever you're finding. This would
be the takeaway that I'd give to anyone. I always say,

(01:06:51):
get curious with things and whatever, Like if I'm listening
to something that is astrology or numerology related. And I
am hearing a podcast and somebody is talking about some
energies that are happening, and they're talking about transits and
aspects whatever it is, and all of a sudden, I
hear something and I'm like, that makes sense to me.

(01:07:12):
Oh my gosh, I get that, or oh, oh my gosh,
that's exactly what I was thinking about. Anything that you
are learning that really taps you in that you're like,
that makes sense to me, Or it speaks in a language,
whether it is human design, when they're you know, whatever,
tools oracle cards, spirit animals, and you can have a

(01:07:33):
multitude of tools, but listen for what resonates with the
language that you speak. Oh my gosh, oracle cards speak
to me. They pull I pulled these oracle cards and
they just they jive with me. Listen to what resonates
for you, and then you know, follow the rabbit hole
and look for more tools and resources or people that
speak in a language that really lights you up. That's

(01:07:56):
how you'll know you're on your path and you're in
a safe space with you're with your guides and community
and mentors.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Opracalls those aha moments I think, but yeah, those moments,
we all know those where you're like, wait, I was
just looking at that, or I was just thinking about that,
so lean in. I love that tip. That's such a
good one. I'm going to put the link to your website.
Also do your Instagram, which is also at soul Pathology,
I believe, and so I'll put that all in the
description of this podcast. If someone does want to do

(01:08:26):
a specific reading with you, I'm assuming that information is
on your website as well.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Yes, I have I have individual sessions and they're limited.
I've just I've got a lot on my plate and
there's one of me, so there's there's a wait list,
there's a little bit of time. But I always say
it's divine timing. It happens exactly all the time, happens
exactly when you're supposed to. But otherwise, like, I've got
tons of resources and there's a lot of good podcasts.
So anything that interested you definitely see you know what

(01:08:56):
may resonate with you. But thank you so much for
having me on. And I love I really love two things.
One that you're so open and you're grounded. I mean
the work that you're doing as far as walking your path,
walking it honestly and vulnerably, and then sharing it with
other people. It matters, It makes an impact, and that

(01:09:17):
thank you. That is one of the things that on
a soul level that they're showing me very clearly is
significance is a thing for you. Meaning it's not about
I have to be the center of attention like we
talked about earlier, or the limelight. It's more am I mattering?
Am I making a difference? And am I significantly impacting
my soul's growth?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Is that? Like, that's how deeper? No, because you keep
mentioning that. But I am somewhat shy, which people find
that really surprising about me. But when I first am
entering into certain circumstances or like the thought of being
on a stage, like it stresses me out. That's not
necessarily what I'm seeking. But I do want to have
an impact. I have that drive. There's something in me

(01:09:56):
that I just want to help people, and I don't
really know what to do than to share my journey.
And that's been what I've always kind of It's just
happened in my life that that's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
And you're on You're on your path, and it's it's
where you get to teach, but also where you get
to heal, like simultaneously. So it's as you know, as
much as you're giving, you're also felt. This is Oh,
this is a valuable use of that that just hour
I just spent, like this is a valuable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Use is the best I get to share it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Yes, you know me too, That's how I feel. And
I know your audience feels that way like there is
because they keep showing me. You know, Oh, this is enriching. Okay,
this makes sense. Oh, these people like get me. We're
not alone and that's not alone. You know, we're not alone,
and and that is that's huge. And I appreciate your

(01:10:48):
openness and your willingness to share your story. And then
also you know, for us to be able to finally
connect like into.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Oh my god, I know we definitely need to keep
this conversation going.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Yeah, for sure we will.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Oh my god, I can't thank you enough for being here,
just for those kind words. That was All of this
has been so validating and helpful to me, and it
was exactly what I needed today. So just like we
were saying, I really will encourage you guys like I
have been on psychic waiting lists for three years before,
and it always comes exactly when I need it, Like
it's the day that the session ends up being, it's like,

(01:11:24):
oh my god, this is exactly what I needed today.
So if you have any sort of interest, if you're
a seeker of any kind, lean in. Like Amanda said,
I love that advice. And Amanda, thank you, like for
so many reasons. Thank you for being here today. And
I really appreciate all that you've given to me and
the listeners you're welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
I have to like, I have to close with this
for your listeners. So, as we shared, Kelly and I
have never met. We know of each other. We have,
you know, a strong mutual connection, so we've always known
of each other. But I remember the first time, and
this has been years ago, that I saw a picture
of you or something. I was like, Damn, she's just
so cool cool, Like I'm like, gosh, like she's I mean,

(01:12:04):
it's yes, you're beautiful and you have a way, but
I was like, damn, she's just so cool, Like I
just want a little bit of her cool and and
like and that's and like meeting you today, apart from
like how wise you are and loving you are and
really genuine. I'm like, yeah, you're just fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Oh my god, I'm gonna cry. I've found it in
this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Time and you're I'm like, but I stilled them at
first glance. I'm like, damn, she's just cool. I'm like, Yo,
she is, really, You're just cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Oh I'm turning red if you guys can't see me,
but I'm really red. Oh my god, thank you. You
don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
The mouth that I needed this today was so high.
So I hope that it gave anything to you guys too.
And you can see what Amanda can do and it's
not scary like it really is such a gift, and
so thank you again for sharing that with all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
That absolutely thanks every much, guys for listening.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Thanks for listening to The Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson,
where we believe everyone has a little velvet and a
little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty,
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