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January 9, 2025 25 mins
Gary and Shannon have the latest coverage on the Palisades Fire, the Sunset Fire and the Eaton Canyon Fire.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We talked about how the King's
game was postponed last night. Now the Lakers game today
against the Hornets will be postponed as well. So that
is the latest there and the call from Jean Smart.

(00:21):
You mentioned to postpone or delay or cancel the awards show.
That's getting a lot of traction as well. You just
I don't know how you can do it. You know,
mentioned the Olympics coming and a handful of years how
you can get ready for that while people are out
of their homes or tempting to get building permits and
things like that. That's also a bad look as well.

(00:42):
They do say. Now good news in Hollywood where the
city officials say that that fire department has fully contained
the sunset fire burning in the Hollywood Hills area. This
is the one that erupted last night just before six pm.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
The news conference from this morning was.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I was going to say it was good, but it
needs to be better.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I mean, we talked about the poetry that people wanted
to get into and the book.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
That is the way we speak the boy.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
That is the way we stand here united Los Angeles
will stand united and stand strong.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
And that doesn't really do much of anything for anybody.
And I asked, and if this, if you are the
person that hears that and thinks to yourself, I feel
better now.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I know my home is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Not one person, maybe her staff or maybe the person
who wrote that. That Beloney c plus writing assignment. That
was awful for California public schools. That was awful. And
if you want to sound like you care, don't do that.
Do the antithesis of that well, and I will don't
be polished, be raw, be real, Have talked to people,

(01:56):
have gone through the neighborhoods, not just sat in the
helicopter and looked overhead. Don't say you've been to the
fire lines and the palisades when you have not been
to the front lines and the palisades. You've may have
seen them, you may have flown over them, you have
not been on the front lines in the palisades.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I guarantee it well, and I want someone who is listen.
I'll point out Catherine Barger simply because she was the
one sort of in the control of this.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's more no nonsense.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
She's more no nonsense. But I want her to be
the most no nonsense. I want her to say, I'm
we're going to do this. We're going to do this
important news conference. And I just want to point out
some people. Mayor's here, that guy's here, Assembly members here,
governors here, so and so.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now the people who matter. Let's talk with the fire chief, right,
Let's talk with the sheriff.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And save the crocodile tears, you know, save the Oh
this has just been so horrible, and we are stronger and.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Save all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Tell us where people can get resources, where they can
go for shelter, where they can get food, where they
can get water, What we're going to do about the water,
How we're going to bolstero bolster the fire hydrant system,
How we're going to figure out how to get water
from northern California to southern California.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Smelt be damned, smelt be damned.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I think those are.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
The only times those words have ever been put together.
Helt be damned. Okay, I'm a fish person. I love fish,
I love the environment, I love animals. You ever had
a smelt I've never had a smelt. I don't want
to smelt, but I understand the smelt live in other
areas too. It's not like we're saving the endangered smelt,
are we? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
There are a couple of things to recall about what
is actually going on right now. The Palisades fire is
still expanding. It is going the other direction. It basically
burned to the water, so it can't go any further there.
But there are areas sort of east towards the four
or five and north towards Encino and sort of over

(03:56):
the hill into the valley. That's where it's expanding today, slower, thankfully,
in the Eton fire up an Altadena. That fire has
now crept all the way up to Mount Wilson. And
it's important because there's some pretty important infrastructure up at
Mount Wilson. And I don't just say that because of
our radio stations and the antennas that we have up there.

(04:18):
TV stations across LA have infrastructure up there, including their
broadcast towers and things like that. The government has stuff
up there at the Mount Wilson Observatory is up there.
Some of the camera shots right now show flames at
the facilities.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And we've done this before.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
We've talked about stories in that fires in that area before,
and they've been able to preposition some fire crews up
there to prevent that from getting out of hand.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
We do not know where they are, I mean I
know where they are.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
They're obviously busy doing other things, but this could be
a significant issue that will keep our eyes on when
we come back. We'll go through a handful some of
the talkback messages that we've received. You can always leave
us a talkback message on the iHeart app.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Just hit that little microphone. It sends us a message.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
You can also use your Amazon Alexa enabled device and
tell Alexa to send us a message bad news.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
The fire it alted that began an Alta Dina making
its way up Eating Canyon. It has gotten pretty damn
close to Mount Wilson.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
There is a line of retardant that has been laid
down in between the flames approaching the towers and those towers,
those ever important communication towers there at the top of
Mount Wilson. But those flames are fast approaching. They were
able to get that retardant down there before the flames
reached it, so We'll hope that that holds up, because

(05:44):
here's the other piece of bad news. One minute ago,
it came across that fixed wing air tankers are returning
to bases. They are unable to further drop retardant in
that fire area due to turbulence. Remember, these wildfires create
weather systems of their own, They create their own turbulence,

(06:05):
their own pressure systems, rising cross patterns, all of it.
So those fixed wing air tankers are unable to fly
in that fire area right now due to the turbulence,
which means they are unable to drop retardant to secure
those towers from the sky. One more piece of bad news.

(06:26):
Unfortunately La County Fire departments as four firefighters have been
injured battling that fire. There, the Eaten Fire Alzadena area
has now destroyed nearly one thousand structures, nine hundred and
seventy two another eighty four are damaged. It still threatens
nearly forty thousand homes.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Wow, you mentioned the evacuation warnings and orders throughout LA County.
Close to four hundred thousand people. I think it's one
hundred and eighty thousand under evacuated orders that have had
to find other places to go, and two hundred thousand
in the evacuation warning areas which they had suggested. Hey,

(07:09):
let's not wait, especially a couple of days ago. Don't
wait for that to turn into an order. You should
be prepared to get out. You mentioned the fires, the
eating fire now approaching Mount Wilson. It's not just a couple.
There's over two dozen TV stations that broadcasts have their
transmission towers up there on top of Mount Wilson, and

(07:33):
another couple dozen radio stations that have theirs up there
as well.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Just in the past few minutes before I went to
the commercial and now those flames look to be about
a quarter mile away from that tower. Now they're licking
the base, and that tower has overcome with.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Asy smoke.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Listen there could the smoke is not a problem if
the fire starts getting into the wiring, and the smoke
is not a.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Problem, But the smoke indicates the fire is.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
On to it.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
And then there are two sections there on the top
of Mount Wilson. You've got the observatory sort of one section,
and then most of the transmission portions on the other
section there. I mean, just all kinds of and it's
not just TV and radio. You got microwave relay facilities.
The big huge one up there is I believe it's

(08:24):
Channel two. That's the tallest of all the towers up
there cacbs.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I don't know what to now.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Through four pm, wins are slowly going to increase again.
It looks like the strongest wins this evening Inland Empire,
Orange County as well. The fire danger stays high until
we get some rain. Folks, it's been eight months since
we've had rain. Let me look at the forecast. Nope,
no rain.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I got have told you that.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I wasn't really looking at the forecast.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Student that was just my own forecast in my head,
which I think is zach.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think it is too.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
It's amazing that no one was hurt in that Hollywood
Hills evacuation, and I think getting out of that garrid
block was one of the only times that I've seen
we're using those stupid electric scooters was appropriate.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, I did hear that a lot from last night
that people trying to get out of the Hollywood Hills
were frustrated. Listen, they're not designed for evacuations like that,
and that's part of the reason why when something like
this happens and we all have to be prepared to
get out quickly and as silly as simple things. When
we started getting evacuation warnings at our house, I packed

(09:40):
the cars and parked them facing out the driveway so
that in the event we decided we're going to go,
we're going to go.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
We're not delly dialing.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Not that that's anybody's fault, but one of the criticisms
was that there were no law enforcement officers doing traffic
control of any kind at the bigger intersect.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Gaved a couple of minutes, you now, which can be
very key.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, love you guys. With the power outages,
why is it nobody knows how to deal with a
four way stop? If the lights out, it's a four
ways stop. So many people are just blasting through these
lights accidents in every intersection. Learn how to four way

(10:18):
stop people.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think people are also preoccupied, you know, And I
think it's not just complete ignorance. I think people have
a million things on their mind, especially if they're evacuating,
and you just got to give people a little bit
of grace.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Especially if it's at night.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I remember doing stories in Seattle all the time where
the wind would knock out power in different I mean
it would happen four or five regularly, four or five
times a month during the winter, and even driving around
at night. You just especially a familiar or an area
you're not familiar with. You didn't know that that intersection
had a light well.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
And when I was trying to get out of my
neighborhood on it was that Tuesday night, there were so
many trees in the road and uncertainty of what I
was going to find. I just wanted to get the
hells of the freeway. I was like, I don't know
what's going on. There were no lights on, there were
no street lights on, there were no home lights on.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It was very scary.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I got to the first main intersection, same thing, and
everyone did stop, treated it like a four way stop, but.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Mine was a California stop. I wanted to get the
hell out of there.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
At least you admit it, hy.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
Gari and Shannon, you are so right. I'm so glad
that you mentioned it. It's not just all about the celebrities.
There have been a lot of people on the internet, Facebook,
et cetera that have been saying, oh, it's just celebrity homes.
They have plenty of money, they can rebuild, And I'm like, no,
you guys don't know. There are homes in Silmar. Altadena
grew not out of hills that only have twelve hundred
square foot homes. And there's so many other people affected.

(11:48):
It's not just specific palisades. Thank you so much for
saying it.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
No, well, that's not us. It's just that that's an
acknowledgment of that.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
This is.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
This is very widespread.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
It's not the old fashioned fire where Malibu goes up
and everybody gets emails as far east as Fontana to
see if they're okay.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
So this is this is a major major issue.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
We talked about the King's game postponed last night, Lakers
game postponed tonight, and now the NFL is talking about
moving the Rams wild Card playoff game on Monday out
of Los Angeles as well. That would be moved to Glendale,
Arizona would be would be but they haven't made that
decisiony have not. There was discussion much different reasons. There

(12:32):
were discussions about postponing or moving the Cotton Bowl game
also out of Dallas, because they're expecting two to four
inches of snow tomorrow afternoon, which wouldn't be a problem
Dallas as a dome stadium, but it would be a problem.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
For people getting to and from the game.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
So but again at that point, at this point they've
said the Cotton Bowl is going to be played.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Mount Wilson has our attention right now. A wall of
flames heading towards a major set of TV radio transmission
towers there Mount Wilson, above the fire burning and Eaton Canyon,
well not above it anymore.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
The fires at Mount Wilson, they.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Were able to lay down a line of fire to
tardant before the fixed wing aircraft had to go back
to the bases because of turbulence there.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
There are not just radio and television towers up there
on Mount Wilson, which would be a problem. You've obviously
got Mount Wilson Observatory, the historic observatory up there, and
it is a they knew it when they built it.
That is a fire prone area. So there are some
safeguards there. But I mean, some of the TV cameras

(13:39):
that we've seen, some of the images from cameras that
exist on those towers have shown that the flames are
right next to the base of some of those towers.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Well, they've called for the mediate evacuation now of Mount
Wilson and the observatory.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't know anybody who would have been up there
other than people potentially in work care. There's one pickup
truck that you could see in some of those images,
and there are a couple of different ways to get
out of there, but not that they are any better
because you've got to go right back down towards the
fire for the most part in terms of getting off
of that mountain. But again, it looks like some of

(14:14):
those radio and TV towers and other communication infrastructure there
on Mount Wilson threatened by the fire.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Northern California up in Mendocino, and I just wanted to
thank your coverage of the fire. My daughter is attending
school at CSU Northridge and living in Hollywood, and she
evacuated last night and I was able to give her
real time updates that I was hearing through the internet
at your AM radio station. So I just wanted to

(14:41):
thank you all for the good work. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Thank you, And that's I mean.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
I can't imagine a cop I have full faith that
my daughter for example, would be able to navigate an
evacuation warning and a notice, but that would be a
terror inducing.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Moment.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
My mom went to San Gabriel High School. She has
a zoom meeting every week with her friends that went
to high school with her. And two of those ladies'
daughters have lost their home. I don't know them. But
for the first time in twenty plus years of covering fires,
twenty four years whatever being down here covering fires or

(15:22):
up in northern California as well, this is the first
time I've ever known anyone personally.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
To lost a home.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
And that's just me, But five people I know personally,
not counting those two girls that I've never met. Five
people I know personally who have lost their homes. I
mean that is crazy. I mean, if it's just me,
then everybody else, I mean, this is how widespread it is.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, and it's you think about the major events. You
use the term and Neil actually give you credit for
it this morning. You use the term that this is
a generational thing, that this is something that you will
remember for a very long time and may never be
repeated in your lifetime. Are a couple of things like that,
not fires, but I know somebody who was I don't

(16:07):
know in New York on nine to eleven, right, I
know somebody who deployed after that, or I mean events
like that that you think of that when it is
a large enough event, everybody is impacted by it in
some way, And this is, I think you're right, is
one of those types of incidents.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I've also gotten a lot of calls and texts, more
so than I ever have gotten from people, family members, friends,
people I haven't heard from in years, concerned because they're
watching this on the twenty four hour news networks, right,
the people that live in other parts of the country,
and we're in it like we are in it, and
we are hyper focused on all the details and getting

(16:47):
the information out, and everyone else in the area is
in it, so you may not be able to kind
of like zoom out and see.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
The scope of just how bad it is.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
On and back east.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, we can talk about the distance as an example,
between the Palisades fire and the eat And fire. It's
even thirty miles or whatever it is between the two fires.
But if you show a map, if you're watching NBC's
nightly news, for example, and they show a map of
La and you're not familiar with it. You think it's
all burning right and that those fires are going to merge.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
They're not.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
But I mean that you we lose kind of the
scale of some of it. And even you're right because
we're smack in the middle between these two fires, at
least at work that it kind of it's hard to
step back from it and try to give perspective to
other people.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Everything. We're fine, Everything's going to be okay, that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
More talkbacks, by the way, leave us a talkback message
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
Just hit the microphone and send us a message.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Hey, dumbass, how much more do you want us to
donate if they don't put keep water in the fire?

Speaker 8 (17:53):
Hydrogens?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Dumb ass, hydrate hydrogens.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I think he was referring to the suggestion that we
donate to the La City Fire Foundation, which benefits firefighters
in their families, or the California Fire Foundation, which benefits
firefighters in their families, as opposed to donating.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
To the city of La And we would never advocate
for that.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But don't worry, I'm the dumbass.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
You are a dumb ass. Thank you, I mean in
a sweet, nice, fun way. Oh, I didn't mean that
You're a dumb ass.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know that, right?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
All mark cards.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Can I tell you the stupidest headline I've ever read?
Okay that I can remember. It's from TMZ, Tom Hanks
and Steven Spielberg. Houses saved like Private Ryan. Well, what

(18:52):
else are they going to do? Not be that dumb?
Talk about a dumb ass?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Covering the fires continued.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Of course, the power all estates fires up over seventeen
thousand acres. But one of the places that we've been
watching most closely in the last few minutes has been
the Eton fire as it creeps up the hill towards
Mount Wilson.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just like every other point where these fires have erupted,
this thing moved furiously, angrily, and very quickly as it
made its way towards those towers. As we mentioned, they
did look like they were able to get a ring
of fire retardant in between the flames and the towers.
At one point, it looks like those flames have passed

(19:31):
that line and make matters worse, the fixed wing aircraft
had to go back to the bases because of turbulence.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Doug Irwin is our regional engineering lead here for IHEARTLA
and has been up there on Mount Wilson. Let's talk about,
first of all, just the importance of what that place is.
There's dozens of radio, TV and other communications towers up there.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right and I'm just watching the monitor right now because
the camera is showing right outside of one of our buildings.
As a matter of fact, it's it's very scary. But
we've also got our own cameras and are own stuff
up there. They're still going even right now. But yeah,
probably about ninety percent of the radio and TV for

(20:12):
the Greater LA area is coming from from the top
of Mount Wilson. I mean it's not complete, but the
vast majority of it comes from there.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
So knowing that, I mean it's probably designated some sort
of special protection site by fire by the state. I mean,
they have an interest in keeping those us, keeping us
on the air.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Well, I would certainly hope. So it doesn't appear to
be that way at the minute that I know that
they're doing everything they can possibly up there. Right now,
I see that looks like maybe some fixed wing aircraft
are flying around again. But I understand that weather conditions
are not favorable. It's not safe, so you know, we
unfortunately have to live with the consequences.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, what's the worst case scenario.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
The worst case scenario is that every one of the
sites burns down, and because the buildings are pretty old.
The site is pretty old, so fifty sixty years. Most
of the buildings are made of wood, a lot of
them have stucco and so forth. But I think probably
the biggest danger is the roofs catching on fire and
so forth. So what would happened is that you probably
have a very spotty radio and television transmission from Mount

(21:16):
Wilson for at least a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
So what other sites are used to transmit and are
they even a fraction and forgive me for being ignorant,
are they even a fraction of how powerful I don't
even know if that's the right term.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Mount Wilson is.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Well, they don't get out as well as Mount Wilson.
And that's the reason they don't use is primary sites.
Mount Wilson is a great site. It's it's world class,
it's well known, everybody. Everybody knows it, and that's one
reason there's so much interest in what's going on. There's
a couple other sites. There's one mountain called Verdugo that
a lot of sites are on. There's some there's some
backups up there. There's Flint Peak, which is in Glendale.
There's some backups up there. There's our other site in

(21:55):
Hollywood Hills. I remember up there too, so.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
When we were out in field and we would use
the RPU units and it would always be pointing your
truck towards one of the transmitter sites. And Verdugo and
Hollywood Hills were always hit or miss. Mount Wilson was
always the surefire way to go.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Mount Wilson can be seen from a long ways. It's
fifty six hundred feet at the top and it gets
out as we would say, a long ways, and that's
why it's so coveted for transmitters out there.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
They talk about the unobstructed views that Mount Wilson has
of just I mean most, not all, but most of
southern California, most of the main.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Places that we would look at.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
What's access like getting up there on a good day,
not today, but on a good day on.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
A good day. Now a problem highway too goes up there.
There's there's It's Angelo's Crust Highway runs up there. It's
really easy it's it's a very busy place on weekends.
As a matter of fact, fact, you don't want to
go up there on Saturday night because there's so many
cars and the people running around there. But normally not
a problem. It's easy to get up there. It's a
nice two lane road. They repave it about every five
years or so. It's it's taken it's well taken care of.

(23:02):
Mount Wilson Observatory is a place where a lot of
people go to visit. Yeah, so it's not just our
businesses up there, the radio and television transmission, but Mount
Wilson Observatory is is a like a tourist attraction.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Now we're talking with Dougar when who is our regional
engineering lead for iHeart about the fire, the eating fire
that's approaching Mount Wilson and just the treasure trove of
the communications towers that exist up there, radio, television, microwave
relays and a bunch of different things up there. Who

(23:32):
would be up there on a daylight today, I mean
would just be guys like you.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah, people like neg going up there for regular visits,
like the Channel four engineer who is up there on
a daily basis. There are several the TV stations that
have people post up there.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You see a lot of that lot those.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Are those are people in the working for the fire department. Okay, yeah,
those are like fire trucks and so forth. So there's
a lot of visitors up there on a regular basis,
and we go up there once every week or once
over a couple of weeks are our own self to check.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
All our stuff outside of the cameras that we have
that our company has up there kind of helping protect
our equipment. Do you have other ways to judge whether
or not it's going to impact transmission for us? And
by us I mean the company, h well.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just regularly.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well we know from prior experience. So back in September
twenty twenty amidst COVID, we had a big series of
fires that burn up them Mount Wilson, and so we
know what we had to go through in that particular time.
And the fire basically didn't burn quite as close as
it appears to have this time, but it did burn
right up to the road. And major problems are just
smoke and dust getting into everything, I believe it or not,

(24:43):
air filters getting jammed up. That's probably what's going to
be the first thing that knocks us off the air.
And really, to be honest with you, is is air filters.
They get full of particular matter.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Wow. So, but.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Didn't affect the road that I recall, And it didn't
you know, it burned up the other side. It burned
from the from the east and came west that time
as opposed to south and north. So the results are
going to be somewhat different. I'm afraid to say, well,
I know you're keeping an eye on it. So, but
thanks for coming in and helping ever well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Again, Doug Or when one of our engineering leads here
at KFI and iHeart here in Los Angeles, do you think.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
It pains people when they have to come in and
dumb things down for.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Us a little bit, a little bit, a little part
of them to say he's happy to leave.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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