October 10, 2024 • 27 mins
Shannon is out again and former KTLA and Fox 11 MMJ Christina Pascucci fills in in with Gary! Gary and Christina begin the show by talking about Hurricane Milton making landfall as a category 3. President of Samaritans Purse, Franklin Graham, joins the show to talk about helping with clean up after Hurricane Helene and now Hurricane Miltion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
That one, yeah, oh, you got to do it yourself.
I sure, sorry, but we don't have union people here
to turn the mics on.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Four.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Is this thing on? I can't even hear. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:15):
Turn it up on the little the follow the court. No,
not that one down there. I got it. I got it.
There's a chord. Can you hear it now yet? How
about now?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
No, no, we'll.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Figure it out during the next commercial break.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Christina Pascucci is here for sanon today.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I feel like it's the first day of school. I'm
so excited to be in your.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Midst You completely overdressed for one thing, I know, but
I made up for.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It because I have slippers on on the bottom, professional
on top, slippers on the.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Bottom because it is going to get cold in here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And I have my blanket too.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's very smart. Those are very wise choices for you.
There were some breaking news to tell you about. Just
before the show started. Amy mentioned that Ethel Kennedy has
died at the age of ninety six. This is rfk's widow,
Kennedy family matriarch, had suffered a stroke in her sleep
last week. They just announced that. I think it was
yesterday that they announced that part of it. They said
(01:05):
that she died this morning in a hospital in Massachusetts,
obviously surrounded by family.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She is a well known human rights advocate, and she
had a long life, ninety six years old.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ninety six is extra innings and she that seems to
be pretty common outside of Kennedy's who have their lives
taken from them. I mean, Kennedys tend to live pretty long.
Consumer prices up two point four percent from a year
earlier in September, according to new numbers that came out
of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Higher than expected actually,
(01:36):
which was two point four but it has gone down
a little bit. Diddy is back in court this afternoon.
The expectation he's going to demand that he's released on
bail when he goes to court today.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I bet he will.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The audacity of asking for that now that I mean,
now that he's been indicted, and now that we've seen
one hundred and twenty more lawsuits that will be filed
against him, And I don't know, if you heard Tony Busby,
this is the tourney out of Houston, who's been taken
all these calls. He said that he fielded three thousand
calls originally and then came up with one hundred and
(02:09):
twenty lawsuits and then announced a ditty hotline. I mean,
this is where we are nowadays, but that they will
also have probably hundreds more come out of the calls
that he's received.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
As them no doubt, and as egregious as it already is,
I think we've barely skimmed the surface of what we're
going to find out, including some of the other big
names that may have been involved, and it will be
very interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
This thing is just cracking open.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Not to mention the fact that while the other big
names not is it big names that were potentially victimized?
Was it big names that are just witnesses or is
it big names that were also allowing this to happen
and having some hand in creating these situations for these people?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
All of the above.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, And I don't even think, I mean, we're so
desensitized today because we see it all, it seems and
with this, I don't know, it sounds like just what
horror films are made of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And I saw this story.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Denzel Washington ran out yelling it diddy from a party
years ago. And so even people who didn't partake, I
think knew something was going on. And what's the implications
for those people. I mean, all of it is very
interesting to consider.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
The big news, of course, is Hurricane Milton has made
its way across the state of Florida. It's now out
off of Cape Canaveral. Some of the incredible images that
we have seen, for example, the roof being ripped off
the Tampa Bay Rays Stadium. I didn't realize that that
thing was all cloth. Now it's all gone. Governor Rohn
(03:44):
de Santis is about to give a response or an update,
an update, I should say, on the hurricane response. So
we'll keep an eye on updates like that throughout the morning.
But he did say this earlier today.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Storm did bring much destruction and damage. Tornadoes ravage parts
of the East coast so the state. Flooding occurred on
the west and east coast, and strong winds lashed the state,
especially in Penelas, Hillsboro, Manatee and Sarasota counties.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
One of the odd things that happened. Was we warned.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Obviously, we everybody was warned about the storm surgeon In
some places it was, you know, twelve to fifteen feet high,
like they were expecting. But there were portions of Tampa
Bay specifically where they saw what they referred to as
a negative storm Sirch.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
A lot of places where the water count pulled out
towards sea, and it was just very eerie because that
area is usually inundated with water and they saw the
bottom of the seafloor. And I didn't realize tornadoes were
such a big part of hurricanes. It doesn't seem like
it's been as significant in the past.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
As it was during this storm. Or is it just
that I didn't hear about it as much.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I've seen tornado warnings go up with hurricane warnings and watches,
but I've never seen them materialize in the numbers that
we saw yesterday, which was one hundred plus different tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Perhaps that touch potato warnings. Yeah, and then I think
at least twenty hit.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, there were a couple in Fort Myers. Some of
the damage. And again, when you think of hurricanes, you
think of the wind speed, because that's how we gauge
how strong the hurricane is, what category it is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But it's not even necessarily the winds that cause the
most damage. I mean, the most spectacular damage may be
in tearing the roof off of a baseball stadium. But
it's the flooding, it's the storm surge. It's the power
outages that are going to exist for the next several
days for some people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And yeah, millions of people without power, including my in
laws who were in Orlando and they had a bat
They thought they.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Were over prepared.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They've been through a million hurricanes and they kind of thought,
you know, we're good. We have a generator, and then
it turns out their power goes out and the generator
doesn't turn on.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yikes.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, not good.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So right now they were going to talk to us
later today and they said, we've got to figure out
this generator situation. They have no cell service at their house.
They have to drive out to try to get cell service.
And another person who I know who lives in Saint Pete,
a little bit closer where the storm hit initially, and
she said she's been a Florida in her entire life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She's never seen a storm quite like this.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
One of the things that happens in the aftermath of
destruction like this, whether it's man made or nature made,
this is an opportunity for people to step up and
find a way to help out. Even if you can't
go to places like Florida or Georgia, North Carolina who've
been ravaged in the last couple of weeks, you can
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definitely give to people who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And we're going to talk to one of those people
who's doing that right now, Franklin Graham, he's president of Smardan's.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Percy joins us, Franklin, are you here with us with you?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, thank you so much for taking the time. I mean,
we know there are thousands of people on the ground
doing the incredible work responding to not only Milton but
also Helene like your organization has been. Can you tell
us what you've been seeing on the ground.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Well, with the storm overnight in Florida, Milton, We've got
we were working in Tampa and in Perry, Florida. We
pulled those teams back up into Georgia into a safe zone.
The team to Perry is already back to one in Tampa,
should be in in this afternoon and we'll be set
up in those locations continuing to help the people from
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the previous hurricane. Now we have another third team that
will be going and we'll wait this afternoon to decide
where we assess at. We've already had people on the
ground up around Saint Petersburg. Not as much flooding as
we thought of there, but a lot of tree damage
in these retirement centers and retirement villages, so a lot
(07:47):
of people out they're gonna need help. These are people
who are fixed income, people don't have a lot of money,
but trees have damaged their homes. So we're going to
cut those trees up and help them repair their to
keep them from leaking. Then down put the Gordas to
the south and the Fort Myers area a lot more flooding.
(08:08):
I think we had a quite a bit more. Uh
maybe the tide search there was a much higher. So
we're looking at going in there. Uh probably maybe late
this afternoon and maybe in the morning. But you have
to let the roads clear, you have to let uh,
you know, the local authorities get the power lines off
(08:29):
the roads and the trees off the roads and those
sort of sort of things. So things are moving a
little bit slow right now, but by this afternoon it'd
be a lot better. And then of course, uh, Hurricane Helene.
We just uh, we're still dealing with that here in
the Carolinas, where you have hundreds of people that are
still missing.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
This was a storm that uh, you know, we talk
about a thousand year event. I don't know, but we've
never seen anything like it. Little tiny streams became raging rivers,
and it just the slides, the infrastructured damage, power lines
down the roads, not not just a section rope, but
some cases miles of road are gone, and the bridges
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of the mud slides. So their whole sections of the
of the western part of the state that are that
are just cut off. People can't can't go left, they
can't go right, and they're just stuck in it. Now
they can walk out, and we've talked to people as
take you know, ten hours to walk out, so that
for an elderly person that that's just not possible. So
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you've got to fly in. So we've we've been we've
been using helicopters. We will by the end of today,
we'll have over one hundred and sixty flights that we
have made. We have the US military helping US National Guards,
helping US businesses, people like Joe Gibbs Racing U his
corporate helicopter. You know, he's he's loaned that in his
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pilots to help Rick Hendrick, same thing, Rick Hendrick Racing. Uh,
They've they've loaned their helicopters. So we're just grateful for
the businesses that have come beside us, the military that
come beside us. We're holding out generators fuel. Elon Musk
has provided starlinks. We've got those set up, and but
(10:16):
the things with the starlinks, we have to send a technician.
You just you know, it's a little overwhelming to hand
somebody something like that. They don't know quite what to do,
so you have to have an it person help them
just plug it in and get it going. And so
we send those guys out too in the helicopters. But
it's it's been it's been tough. It's but we're just
thankful for the people that have that have helped and
(10:37):
these volunteers, and it's just so many neighbors are helping
neighbors and it just puts a lot of faith back
in the American people.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's true, and from what I understand, you guys actually
have volunteers who lost their own homes and helen.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yes, yes we do, and we've got you know, it's
just it's just the spirit of of the people that
just get you excited. Christ. They're just people that are
willing to come and work at their own expense volunteer,
and yet they also have problems and they've had loss.
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But we're just excited to be able to respond. We
always want to respond in Jesus' name, you say, I
want people to know that God loves them. Sometimes people
come to the storm like this they think, well, you know,
maybe God's mad at me. No, God loves us. This
wasn't his plan when when sin came into the world.
We live in a fallen world. And and I want
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people to know that God loves us. He cares for us,
and he sent his son from heaven to this earth
to take our sins. And he died and shed his
blood for our sins. And he was buried and God
raised him to life. And if we put a faith
in trust in him, God will forgive us of our sins.
And this is this is a message we want everyone
to know. And but we help we help everyone regardless.
(11:57):
And uh, but when we finish helping them and cleaning
up their their yard or cutting the trees off, what
we do is we all the volunteers will get a
big circle and we present them with a Bible and
all the volunteers will sign the Bible and give it
to them. And every homeowner is so appreciative because they
they've got something that's a that they will keep in
their family. All the names of those volunteers that came
(12:19):
to help them. Uh, you know, we had one lady
that they Christian I gave one of my chaplains gave
her two gallons of water. Okay, just two gallons of water.
She cried. She cried over two gallons of water. And
uh that's how desperate some people are. Uh. And so
the need is great, and knowing Florida, the need is
(12:42):
going to be great, and we're going to be in Florida.
We're going to be down there for some time, just
like we are here. But we we thank God that
we're in a position to help. He's given a lot
of people to help us, and we praise him and
thank him for that. He's given us good weather this week.
Uh so the ground is drying out. The rivers are
(13:02):
going down here in North Carolina. We're thankful for that,
and so it's going to help us just be able
to get out there and work and do a better job.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I choose this word in purposefully. But you guys at
Samaritan's Person International Relief having a MAC just an update
quickly from Governor Ronda Santis.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
He spoke a few minutes ago.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
My sense is that a lot of the people did
leave who were in the evacuation zones. I know we
had over eighty thousand people staying in shelters. You had
massive heavy traffic on the interstates over the last several
days leading up to the storm because I think people
were deciding, you know, to just get out of dodge.
(13:41):
We also can say that the storm did not produce
the worst case scenario in terms of storm surge. If
you remember about twenty four hours ago, maybe thirty six
hours ago, the fear was a Category four strong four
going into Tampa Bay, producing about fifteen feet a storm surge.
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That's an area with Pinellas County peninsula and then the
surrounding areas in Hillsboro County that is very low lying,
very susceptible to storm surge that did not end up happening.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
All of that good news, Still some deaths to report.
Looks like most of the deaths are going to be
from tornadoes actually and the damage that results in. So again,
updates will come out of Florida throughout the show today
and we'll definitely bring those to you. We mentioned this
week the story of CBS News and whatever the world
is going on at CBS News last week, Tony, You're
(14:41):
gonna have to correct me to thank you, right, that's
you said that earlier Tony Dkopple, one of the anchors
of the CBS Morning Show, was interviewing I mean, he
was one of three that were interviewing ton of I
believe about a book that came out and just asked him, pointed,
(15:03):
aggressive but civil questions.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Why not detail anything of the first and the second
into five of the cafe bombings, the bus bombings and
the little kids blown to bits? And is it because
you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has
a right to exist.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined,
there is no shortage of that perspective in American media.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That's the first thing I would say.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Again, calm, civil, right, normal.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He asked questions as journalists should to present both sides
because the book that this author wrote is pro Palestinian
and doesn't really lay out both sides of a very complex,
centuries old conflict, and so he was asking him, you
know what a journalist should well.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The heads of CBS News, Wenny McMahon Adrian Roark, decided
to chastise him for the way he handled the questioning.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
They made him sit down with.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The Race and Culture unit at CBS News and the
standards team, which advises on context, tone and intention of programming,
and the discussion apparently focused on his tenor and his
body language during the exchange, which was again civil. You
(16:22):
don't have to agree with either one of these guys,
but it was a civil, normal discussion between two smart
people hashing out their difference.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Is about a very important issue.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The Free Press has done some excellent reporting on this,
if you want to go, check them out on Instagram
or social media, and they had some audio recordings from
Elite in a meeting between the people you were just
talking about. And now apparently the Free Press is reporting
that CBS execs are saying the question should be asked
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whether we should discuss whether Israel even has a right
to exist, which you wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
About any other country.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And so there's someone else who's been doing some excellent
reporting around this, who's a friend of mine, who are
going to bring on right now.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
His name is Moshwa Nunu.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He is the founder and editor of mo News, and
he actually helped launch CBS Morning News, which is at
the center of this debacle.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And Mosch, we'd love to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's great to be with you, guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All Right, so you saw what's happened, you saw the
fallout from all of this. Does this blow your mind
like it does mine?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Well, let's be candidate here. I spent a decade at
that place, so it does not. I wouldn't say it
blows my mind. I think we started to see the
origins of this.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I would say around.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, things start to shift. I think Christina,
you can speak to this as well. Where you know
the news not so long ago, newsrooms are places for
robust conversations, sometimes not even polite conversations.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
When I talked about.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Internally between producers reporters, you're pashing out complicated subjects. What
do you think the story is? What do you think
the story is? And suddenly we start to see this
and it's not altogether different from if you had on
professors or university administrators. They start to see sort of
gen z coming into the universities in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.
Now they come into the workforce in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
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and now we're almost a decade in. And now suddenly
you start to get to the point where not so
long ago, if you're in a newsroom and you rejected
an idea about you know something you pitched I want
to do a story an X and the bosses didn't
like it, you go back and say, you know what,
I got to make that story better. Let's figure out
way make it more interesting. And I already saw and
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I admittedly left CBS in twenty nineteen, Starting around twenty
seventeen twenty eighteen, if you've got a story rejected, and
maybe you had a certain agenda in mind, you went
to HR and said, I don't think management. I think
management is biased and not treating me fairly and I
think this is the natural evolution out of all of that,
because ultimately, why was Tony condemned internally because enough people
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internally felt that they didn't like the way that he
conducted the interview because it went against their world views.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
But the idea of going to.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Listen, I don't know, I don't know the structure, and
you're gonna have to help me out on this. If
somebody in the newsroom, producer, editor, whatever, thought that Tony
did that wrong, is the is the best mechanism to
go to management?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Or do you go to Tony and say I.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Did to me right? Okay?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I just want to make I just want.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
To make sure that I wasn't coming up with like
I know there's a hierarchy, and I know that there's
a certain amount of you know, there's still office politics
that are involved there, But just Tony and say hey,
I didn't like that or I thought this, or I
disagreed with you.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I think that again. You're seeing this more and more
and I'm not going to like cast a whole generation
one way. But I hear this from friends of mine
who teach on college campuses, where if somebody has an
issue with somebody else, or an opinion they disagree with
people like, it's not natural for them to call them
on the phone or.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Talk to them.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Instead they're tweeting or posting on social media that this
person is wrong without ever having a conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
With that person.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
So I think it's a culture has been created there
where the knee jerk is to go to management and
get it condemned. And then of course management decided to
air all this publicly in front of the entire staff,
instead of management perhaps going directly to Tony as opposed to,
you know, making it an issue for the entire organization.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We should say that there are some who came to
his defense, though, like at the top of CBS News
and also someone on that call in which the audio
was leaked who said, look, this is part of being
a journalist, is present both sides, and he did it
with civility.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah. You know.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
One of the reasons, by the way it would lead
to the free press of all places, is there's clearly
people who are sympathetic to Tony's viewpoint, right, and so
the free press, you know, was able to certainly comes
at these issues. The free press started by Barry Wife
who left a place like The New York Times that
dealing with some of the same issues, where the political
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stances of the staff have gotten so far left that
people who are pretty mainstream or centrist not so long
ago guys now are viewed as outcasts or right wingers.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And so, you know, I think that one of.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
The issues, philosophically speaking, is somebody who started helped start
that show more than.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A decade ago.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
It was a place to have robust conversations. It's a
place to have asked challenging questions in a world in
morning television where you typically, you know, was the world
of fluff and cooking segments and fashion segments, et cetera.
And that was the intention, and that's the technically what
the copele did here. Sometimes as a journalist, you asked,
you know, questions that are slightly more provocative to a
listen and answer. And even the clip you guys played there,
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what did you hear coach effectively because of the way
Tony asked the question says, yeah, you're right, I'm only
presenting one of viewpoint here, and that's why I'm presenting
one of viewpoints in my book Talk.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
With Mowanunu, founder and editor of Mo News and also
had a hand in the creation of CBS Mornings back
in the day. About what's going on with CBS News.
Sherry Redstone right now, of course, her paramount Empire controls
CBS News is now criticizing the CBS News people for
the way they criticized Tony Mo.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
You're gonna have to say his name again, Kopyl, thank.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You, all right.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Struggled with that for the last three days.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Tonydacoppel and the way that he interviewed Tanahase Coates just
the other day regarding his mister Coates's new book and
how Tony was like, hey, I read it, read that.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Listen. He did everything. I think he did everything.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The way he's supposed to do as an anchor interviewing
somebody about a book when it comes to a very
high profile, very controversial subject, which is make him defend it.
I mean, you don't have to, but it's a perfectly
acceptable line of questioning.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean, I'm a former journalist.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I worked at KTLA in Fox for many years, and
to me, this is a journalist's responsibility.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And Mo, I think you would agree.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm just very concerned about where this goes from here,
are some of these historically credible newsrooms going to become,
you know, places for activists to push their own agendas.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
This doesn't seem to end well.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
No, it's going in the wrong direction, right. And actually,
you know during the break that I was thinking about,
you know, at CBS there's a rich heritage, right and
literally in the hallways, you know, across from my desk
there were photos of Mike Wallace and Edward R.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Murrow and Walter Cronkite.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
And the fact that now atone the tone of questioning
doesn't meet the editorial standards like this, the place that
prides itself on having asked hard questions for decades, right,
Like the fame is Edward R. Murrow and interviewing Joe
McCarthy effectively, by the standard guys like this effectively means
that anything on cable news, anything on radio, and frankly,
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most of the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Out there don't meet the editorial standards.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Of CBS News based on this new standard they've tried
to create. And I think the conservative this creates its
killing effects. And that's a bit of what we got
from that editorial meeting that was leaked right the free
Press has audio of Jen Crawford, who I know very well,
the chief legal corresponds. They're saying, I don't even know
what to do moving forward. How am I supposed to
ask questions? If these are the new rules?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, I gotta tell you you're my new follow I gotta.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Follow is the best. So I just have to give.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
MO news a shout out most I hope you don't mind,
but he I have watched him create.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
You know this real.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You have a massive following half a million people. I
think you've built this into relatively quickly. I know it's
taken a lot of blood, sweat and tears and patients
from your wife, but it's really incredible. People trust you
because you present the news in such an unbiased way, which,
as we've been talking about, seems to be a lost art.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
It's it's sadly it's become novel. I appreciate by I
appreciate it. By the way, if you want to follow me,
you can follow me just it's my first name on
Instagram at mosha at ms agh and ivid Hailey a
news podcast, the Mode News Podcast.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But you know, it's.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Incredible to me that in twenty twenty four something novel
to say is that we're going to do something nonpartisan,
and we're going to call dolls and strikes, and we're
going to be transparent with people.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
But we know and what we don't know because.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
To your point, Christina, increasingly it does feel like newsrooms
are full of activists and there's only a right point
of view and even the idea of pushback. There are
only certain ideas and certain viewpoints that you should be
pushing back on these days, and others are not to
be questioned.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, and my concern is that all the good ones
are going to leave the newsrooms because they're fed up
with this, and then what's left will be the ones
who are pushing that agenda. So I think my I
don't know how much time we have left, Gary, but
I think my final question would be what do we do?
We can't just let this go unchecked?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
What can we do?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Consumers of news, people who are listening right now, what
action can they take?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Well, you know, it's interesting, Ultimately, the viewership, the listenership,
the readership is going to dictate what these newsrooms do.
If they see continuing loss of audience, then they know
they have to do something different. So I think it's
important these days to let you know news organizations that
(26:26):
you like or that you think are relevant to your life.
Let them know what you think, and hopefully they will
be a responsive to that, because I think we're dealing
with a larger societal issue here that people don't trust
the media, and stuff like this only reinforces distrust, so
people trust to alternate sources which are not as trustworthy
and don't have journalistic standards, and then we find ourselves
in a predicament where we're at where this week I'm
(26:47):
being asked by people whether the government is creating hurricanes,
because that's you know, that's a question that people are.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Asking because they so distrust the media.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Mo Founder, editor of Monews.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Check them out Momo dot newsmo dot News or at
Mosha like you said ms h eh on social media.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
Mo.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Great to meet you and thanks for taking time.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Thank you You're the best.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Love to talk to you, guys. I'll be back anytime.
All right.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
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Speaker 2 (27:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
That one, yeah, oh, you got to do it yourself.
I sure, sorry, but we don't have union people here
to turn the mics on.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Four.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Is this thing on? I can't even hear. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:15):
Turn it up on the little the follow the court. No,
not that one down there. I got it. I got it.
There's a chord. Can you hear it now yet? How
about now?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
No, no, we'll.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Figure it out during the next commercial break.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Christina Pascucci is here for sanon today.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I feel like it's the first day of school. I'm
so excited to be in your.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Midst You completely overdressed for one thing, I know, but
I made up for.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It because I have slippers on on the bottom, professional
on top, slippers on the.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Bottom because it is going to get cold in here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And I have my blanket too.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's very smart. Those are very wise choices for you.
There were some breaking news to tell you about. Just
before the show started. Amy mentioned that Ethel Kennedy has
died at the age of ninety six. This is rfk's widow,
Kennedy family matriarch, had suffered a stroke in her sleep
last week. They just announced that. I think it was
yesterday that they announced that part of it. They said
(01:05):
that she died this morning in a hospital in Massachusetts,
obviously surrounded by family.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She is a well known human rights advocate, and she
had a long life, ninety six years old.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ninety six is extra innings and she that seems to
be pretty common outside of Kennedy's who have their lives
taken from them. I mean, Kennedys tend to live pretty long.
Consumer prices up two point four percent from a year
earlier in September, according to new numbers that came out
of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Higher than expected actually,
(01:36):
which was two point four but it has gone down
a little bit. Diddy is back in court this afternoon.
The expectation he's going to demand that he's released on
bail when he goes to court today.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I bet he will.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The audacity of asking for that now that I mean,
now that he's been indicted, and now that we've seen
one hundred and twenty more lawsuits that will be filed
against him, And I don't know, if you heard Tony Busby,
this is the tourney out of Houston, who's been taken
all these calls. He said that he fielded three thousand
calls originally and then came up with one hundred and
(02:09):
twenty lawsuits and then announced a ditty hotline. I mean,
this is where we are nowadays, but that they will
also have probably hundreds more come out of the calls
that he's received.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
As them no doubt, and as egregious as it already is,
I think we've barely skimmed the surface of what we're
going to find out, including some of the other big
names that may have been involved, and it will be
very interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
This thing is just cracking open.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Not to mention the fact that while the other big
names not is it big names that were potentially victimized?
Was it big names that are just witnesses or is
it big names that were also allowing this to happen
and having some hand in creating these situations for these people?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
All of the above.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, And I don't even think, I mean, we're so
desensitized today because we see it all, it seems and
with this, I don't know, it sounds like just what
horror films are made of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And I saw this story.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Denzel Washington ran out yelling it diddy from a party
years ago. And so even people who didn't partake, I
think knew something was going on. And what's the implications
for those people. I mean, all of it is very
interesting to consider.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
The big news, of course, is Hurricane Milton has made
its way across the state of Florida. It's now out
off of Cape Canaveral. Some of the incredible images that
we have seen, for example, the roof being ripped off
the Tampa Bay Rays Stadium. I didn't realize that that
thing was all cloth. Now it's all gone. Governor Rohn
(03:44):
de Santis is about to give a response or an update,
an update, I should say, on the hurricane response. So
we'll keep an eye on updates like that throughout the morning.
But he did say this earlier today.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Storm did bring much destruction and damage. Tornadoes ravage parts
of the East coast so the state. Flooding occurred on
the west and east coast, and strong winds lashed the state,
especially in Penelas, Hillsboro, Manatee and Sarasota counties.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
One of the odd things that happened. Was we warned.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Obviously, we everybody was warned about the storm surgeon In
some places it was, you know, twelve to fifteen feet high,
like they were expecting. But there were portions of Tampa
Bay specifically where they saw what they referred to as
a negative storm Sirch.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
A lot of places where the water count pulled out
towards sea, and it was just very eerie because that
area is usually inundated with water and they saw the
bottom of the seafloor. And I didn't realize tornadoes were
such a big part of hurricanes. It doesn't seem like
it's been as significant in the past.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
As it was during this storm. Or is it just
that I didn't hear about it as much.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I've seen tornado warnings go up with hurricane warnings and watches,
but I've never seen them materialize in the numbers that
we saw yesterday, which was one hundred plus different tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Perhaps that touch potato warnings. Yeah, and then I think
at least twenty hit.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, there were a couple in Fort Myers. Some of
the damage. And again, when you think of hurricanes, you
think of the wind speed, because that's how we gauge
how strong the hurricane is, what category it is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But it's not even necessarily the winds that cause the
most damage. I mean, the most spectacular damage may be
in tearing the roof off of a baseball stadium. But
it's the flooding, it's the storm surge. It's the power
outages that are going to exist for the next several
days for some people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And yeah, millions of people without power, including my in
laws who were in Orlando and they had a bat
They thought they.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Were over prepared.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They've been through a million hurricanes and they kind of thought,
you know, we're good. We have a generator, and then
it turns out their power goes out and the generator
doesn't turn on.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yikes.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, not good.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So right now they were going to talk to us
later today and they said, we've got to figure out
this generator situation. They have no cell service at their house.
They have to drive out to try to get cell service.
And another person who I know who lives in Saint Pete,
a little bit closer where the storm hit initially, and
she said she's been a Florida in her entire life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She's never seen a storm quite like this.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
One of the things that happens in the aftermath of
destruction like this, whether it's man made or nature made,
this is an opportunity for people to step up and
find a way to help out. Even if you can't
go to places like Florida or Georgia, North Carolina who've
been ravaged in the last couple of weeks, you can
(06:32):
definitely give to people who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And we're going to talk to one of those people
who's doing that right now, Franklin Graham, he's president of Smardan's.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Percy joins us, Franklin, are you here with us with you?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, thank you so much for taking the time. I mean,
we know there are thousands of people on the ground
doing the incredible work responding to not only Milton but
also Helene like your organization has been. Can you tell
us what you've been seeing on the ground.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Well, with the storm overnight in Florida, Milton, We've got
we were working in Tampa and in Perry, Florida. We
pulled those teams back up into Georgia into a safe zone.
The team to Perry is already back to one in Tampa,
should be in in this afternoon and we'll be set
up in those locations continuing to help the people from
(07:25):
the previous hurricane. Now we have another third team that
will be going and we'll wait this afternoon to decide
where we assess at. We've already had people on the
ground up around Saint Petersburg. Not as much flooding as
we thought of there, but a lot of tree damage
in these retirement centers and retirement villages, so a lot
(07:47):
of people out they're gonna need help. These are people
who are fixed income, people don't have a lot of money,
but trees have damaged their homes. So we're going to
cut those trees up and help them repair their to
keep them from leaking. Then down put the Gordas to
the south and the Fort Myers area a lot more flooding.
(08:08):
I think we had a quite a bit more. Uh
maybe the tide search there was a much higher. So
we're looking at going in there. Uh probably maybe late
this afternoon and maybe in the morning. But you have
to let the roads clear, you have to let uh,
you know, the local authorities get the power lines off
(08:29):
the roads and the trees off the roads and those
sort of sort of things. So things are moving a
little bit slow right now, but by this afternoon it'd
be a lot better. And then of course, uh, Hurricane Helene.
We just uh, we're still dealing with that here in
the Carolinas, where you have hundreds of people that are
still missing.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
This was a storm that uh, you know, we talk
about a thousand year event. I don't know, but we've
never seen anything like it. Little tiny streams became raging rivers,
and it just the slides, the infrastructured damage, power lines
down the roads, not not just a section rope, but
some cases miles of road are gone, and the bridges
(09:12):
of the mud slides. So their whole sections of the
of the western part of the state that are that
are just cut off. People can't can't go left, they
can't go right, and they're just stuck in it. Now
they can walk out, and we've talked to people as
take you know, ten hours to walk out, so that
for an elderly person that that's just not possible. So
(09:34):
you've got to fly in. So we've we've been we've
been using helicopters. We will by the end of today,
we'll have over one hundred and sixty flights that we
have made. We have the US military helping US National Guards,
helping US businesses, people like Joe Gibbs Racing U his
corporate helicopter. You know, he's he's loaned that in his
(09:56):
pilots to help Rick Hendrick, same thing, Rick Hendrick Racing. Uh,
They've they've loaned their helicopters. So we're just grateful for
the businesses that have come beside us, the military that
come beside us. We're holding out generators fuel. Elon Musk
has provided starlinks. We've got those set up, and but
(10:16):
the things with the starlinks, we have to send a technician.
You just you know, it's a little overwhelming to hand
somebody something like that. They don't know quite what to do,
so you have to have an it person help them
just plug it in and get it going. And so
we send those guys out too in the helicopters. But
it's it's been it's been tough. It's but we're just
thankful for the people that have that have helped and
(10:37):
these volunteers, and it's just so many neighbors are helping
neighbors and it just puts a lot of faith back
in the American people.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's true, and from what I understand, you guys actually
have volunteers who lost their own homes and helen.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yes, yes we do, and we've got you know, it's
just it's just the spirit of of the people that
just get you excited. Christ. They're just people that are
willing to come and work at their own expense volunteer,
and yet they also have problems and they've had loss.
(11:15):
But we're just excited to be able to respond. We
always want to respond in Jesus' name, you say, I
want people to know that God loves them. Sometimes people
come to the storm like this they think, well, you know,
maybe God's mad at me. No, God loves us. This
wasn't his plan when when sin came into the world.
We live in a fallen world. And and I want
(11:36):
people to know that God loves us. He cares for us,
and he sent his son from heaven to this earth
to take our sins. And he died and shed his
blood for our sins. And he was buried and God
raised him to life. And if we put a faith
in trust in him, God will forgive us of our sins.
And this is this is a message we want everyone
to know. And but we help we help everyone regardless.
(11:57):
And uh, but when we finish helping them and cleaning
up their their yard or cutting the trees off, what
we do is we all the volunteers will get a
big circle and we present them with a Bible and
all the volunteers will sign the Bible and give it
to them. And every homeowner is so appreciative because they
they've got something that's a that they will keep in
their family. All the names of those volunteers that came
(12:19):
to help them. Uh, you know, we had one lady
that they Christian I gave one of my chaplains gave
her two gallons of water. Okay, just two gallons of water.
She cried. She cried over two gallons of water. And
uh that's how desperate some people are. Uh. And so
the need is great, and knowing Florida, the need is
(12:42):
going to be great, and we're going to be in Florida.
We're going to be down there for some time, just
like we are here. But we we thank God that
we're in a position to help. He's given a lot
of people to help us, and we praise him and
thank him for that. He's given us good weather this week.
Uh so the ground is drying out. The rivers are
(13:02):
going down here in North Carolina. We're thankful for that,
and so it's going to help us just be able
to get out there and work and do a better job.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I choose this word in purposefully. But you guys at
Samaritan's Person International Relief having a MAC just an update
quickly from Governor Ronda Santis.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
He spoke a few minutes ago.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
My sense is that a lot of the people did
leave who were in the evacuation zones. I know we
had over eighty thousand people staying in shelters. You had
massive heavy traffic on the interstates over the last several
days leading up to the storm because I think people
were deciding, you know, to just get out of dodge.
(13:41):
We also can say that the storm did not produce
the worst case scenario in terms of storm surge. If
you remember about twenty four hours ago, maybe thirty six
hours ago, the fear was a Category four strong four
going into Tampa Bay, producing about fifteen feet a storm surge.
(14:04):
That's an area with Pinellas County peninsula and then the
surrounding areas in Hillsboro County that is very low lying,
very susceptible to storm surge that did not end up happening.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
All of that good news, Still some deaths to report.
Looks like most of the deaths are going to be
from tornadoes actually and the damage that results in. So again,
updates will come out of Florida throughout the show today
and we'll definitely bring those to you. We mentioned this
week the story of CBS News and whatever the world
is going on at CBS News last week, Tony, You're
(14:41):
gonna have to correct me to thank you, right, that's
you said that earlier Tony Dkopple, one of the anchors
of the CBS Morning Show, was interviewing I mean, he
was one of three that were interviewing ton of I
believe about a book that came out and just asked him, pointed,
(15:03):
aggressive but civil questions.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Why not detail anything of the first and the second
into five of the cafe bombings, the bus bombings and
the little kids blown to bits? And is it because
you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has
a right to exist.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined,
there is no shortage of that perspective in American media.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That's the first thing I would say.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Again, calm, civil, right, normal.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He asked questions as journalists should to present both sides
because the book that this author wrote is pro Palestinian
and doesn't really lay out both sides of a very complex,
centuries old conflict, and so he was asking him, you
know what a journalist should well.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The heads of CBS News, Wenny McMahon Adrian Roark, decided
to chastise him for the way he handled the questioning.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
They made him sit down with.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The Race and Culture unit at CBS News and the
standards team, which advises on context, tone and intention of programming,
and the discussion apparently focused on his tenor and his
body language during the exchange, which was again civil. You
(16:22):
don't have to agree with either one of these guys,
but it was a civil, normal discussion between two smart
people hashing out their difference.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Is about a very important issue.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The Free Press has done some excellent reporting on this,
if you want to go, check them out on Instagram
or social media, and they had some audio recordings from
Elite in a meeting between the people you were just
talking about. And now apparently the Free Press is reporting
that CBS execs are saying the question should be asked
(16:52):
whether we should discuss whether Israel even has a right
to exist, which you wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
About any other country.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And so there's someone else who's been doing some excellent
reporting around this, who's a friend of mine, who are
going to bring on right now.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
His name is Moshwa Nunu.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He is the founder and editor of mo News, and
he actually helped launch CBS Morning News, which is at
the center of this debacle.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And Mosch, we'd love to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's great to be with you, guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All Right, so you saw what's happened, you saw the
fallout from all of this. Does this blow your mind
like it does mine?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Well, let's be candidate here. I spent a decade at
that place, so it does not. I wouldn't say it
blows my mind. I think we started to see the
origins of this.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I would say around.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, things start to shift. I think Christina,
you can speak to this as well. Where you know
the news not so long ago, newsrooms are places for
robust conversations, sometimes not even polite conversations.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
When I talked about.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Internally between producers reporters, you're pashing out complicated subjects. What
do you think the story is? What do you think
the story is? And suddenly we start to see this
and it's not altogether different from if you had on
professors or university administrators. They start to see sort of
gen z coming into the universities in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.
Now they come into the workforce in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
(18:19):
and now we're almost a decade in. And now suddenly
you start to get to the point where not so
long ago, if you're in a newsroom and you rejected
an idea about you know something you pitched I want
to do a story an X and the bosses didn't
like it, you go back and say, you know what,
I got to make that story better. Let's figure out
way make it more interesting. And I already saw and
(18:39):
I admittedly left CBS in twenty nineteen, Starting around twenty
seventeen twenty eighteen, if you've got a story rejected, and
maybe you had a certain agenda in mind, you went
to HR and said, I don't think management. I think
management is biased and not treating me fairly and I
think this is the natural evolution out of all of that,
because ultimately, why was Tony condemned internally because enough people
(19:02):
internally felt that they didn't like the way that he
conducted the interview because it went against their world views.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
But the idea of going to.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Listen, I don't know, I don't know the structure, and
you're gonna have to help me out on this. If
somebody in the newsroom, producer, editor, whatever, thought that Tony
did that wrong, is the is the best mechanism to
go to management?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Or do you go to Tony and say I.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Did to me right? Okay?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I just want to make I just want.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
To make sure that I wasn't coming up with like
I know there's a hierarchy, and I know that there's
a certain amount of you know, there's still office politics
that are involved there, But just Tony and say hey,
I didn't like that or I thought this, or I
disagreed with you.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I think that again. You're seeing this more and more
and I'm not going to like cast a whole generation
one way. But I hear this from friends of mine
who teach on college campuses, where if somebody has an
issue with somebody else, or an opinion they disagree with
people like, it's not natural for them to call them
on the phone or.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Talk to them.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Instead they're tweeting or posting on social media that this
person is wrong without ever having a conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
With that person.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
So I think it's a culture has been created there
where the knee jerk is to go to management and
get it condemned. And then of course management decided to
air all this publicly in front of the entire staff,
instead of management perhaps going directly to Tony as opposed to,
you know, making it an issue for the entire organization.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We should say that there are some who came to
his defense, though, like at the top of CBS News
and also someone on that call in which the audio
was leaked who said, look, this is part of being
a journalist, is present both sides, and he did it
with civility.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah. You know.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
One of the reasons, by the way it would lead
to the free press of all places, is there's clearly
people who are sympathetic to Tony's viewpoint, right, and so
the free press, you know, was able to certainly comes
at these issues. The free press started by Barry Wife
who left a place like The New York Times that
dealing with some of the same issues, where the political
(21:10):
stances of the staff have gotten so far left that
people who are pretty mainstream or centrist not so long
ago guys now are viewed as outcasts or right wingers.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And so, you know, I think that one of.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
The issues, philosophically speaking, is somebody who started helped start
that show more than.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A decade ago.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
It was a place to have robust conversations. It's a
place to have asked challenging questions in a world in
morning television where you typically, you know, was the world
of fluff and cooking segments and fashion segments, et cetera.
And that was the intention, and that's the technically what
the copele did here. Sometimes as a journalist, you asked,
you know, questions that are slightly more provocative to a
listen and answer. And even the clip you guys played there,
(21:52):
what did you hear coach effectively because of the way
Tony asked the question says, yeah, you're right, I'm only
presenting one of viewpoint here, and that's why I'm presenting
one of viewpoints in my book Talk.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
With Mowanunu, founder and editor of Mo News and also
had a hand in the creation of CBS Mornings back
in the day. About what's going on with CBS News.
Sherry Redstone right now, of course, her paramount Empire controls
CBS News is now criticizing the CBS News people for
the way they criticized Tony Mo.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
You're gonna have to say his name again, Kopyl, thank.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You, all right.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Struggled with that for the last three days.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Tonydacoppel and the way that he interviewed Tanahase Coates just
the other day regarding his mister Coates's new book and
how Tony was like, hey, I read it, read that.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Listen. He did everything. I think he did everything.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The way he's supposed to do as an anchor interviewing
somebody about a book when it comes to a very
high profile, very controversial subject, which is make him defend it.
I mean, you don't have to, but it's a perfectly
acceptable line of questioning.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean, I'm a former journalist.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I worked at KTLA in Fox for many years, and
to me, this is a journalist's responsibility.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And Mo, I think you would agree.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm just very concerned about where this goes from here,
are some of these historically credible newsrooms going to become,
you know, places for activists to push their own agendas.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
This doesn't seem to end well.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
No, it's going in the wrong direction, right. And actually,
you know during the break that I was thinking about,
you know, at CBS there's a rich heritage, right and
literally in the hallways, you know, across from my desk
there were photos of Mike Wallace and Edward R.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Murrow and Walter Cronkite.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
And the fact that now atone the tone of questioning
doesn't meet the editorial standards like this, the place that
prides itself on having asked hard questions for decades, right,
Like the fame is Edward R. Murrow and interviewing Joe
McCarthy effectively, by the standard guys like this effectively means
that anything on cable news, anything on radio, and frankly,
(23:58):
most of the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Out there don't meet the editorial standards.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Of CBS News based on this new standard they've tried
to create. And I think the conservative this creates its
killing effects. And that's a bit of what we got
from that editorial meeting that was leaked right the free
Press has audio of Jen Crawford, who I know very well,
the chief legal corresponds. They're saying, I don't even know
what to do moving forward. How am I supposed to
ask questions? If these are the new rules?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, I gotta tell you you're my new follow I gotta.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Follow is the best. So I just have to give.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
MO news a shout out most I hope you don't mind,
but he I have watched him create.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
You know this real.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You have a massive following half a million people. I
think you've built this into relatively quickly. I know it's
taken a lot of blood, sweat and tears and patients
from your wife, but it's really incredible. People trust you
because you present the news in such an unbiased way, which,
as we've been talking about, seems to be a lost art.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
It's it's sadly it's become novel. I appreciate by I
appreciate it. By the way, if you want to follow me,
you can follow me just it's my first name on
Instagram at mosha at ms agh and ivid Hailey a
news podcast, the Mode News Podcast.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But you know, it's.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Incredible to me that in twenty twenty four something novel
to say is that we're going to do something nonpartisan,
and we're going to call dolls and strikes, and we're
going to be transparent with people.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
But we know and what we don't know because.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
To your point, Christina, increasingly it does feel like newsrooms
are full of activists and there's only a right point
of view and even the idea of pushback. There are
only certain ideas and certain viewpoints that you should be
pushing back on these days, and others are not to
be questioned.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, and my concern is that all the good ones
are going to leave the newsrooms because they're fed up
with this, and then what's left will be the ones
who are pushing that agenda. So I think my I
don't know how much time we have left, Gary, but
I think my final question would be what do we do?
We can't just let this go unchecked?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
What can we do?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Consumers of news, people who are listening right now, what
action can they take?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Well, you know, it's interesting, Ultimately, the viewership, the listenership,
the readership is going to dictate what these newsrooms do.
If they see continuing loss of audience, then they know
they have to do something different. So I think it's
important these days to let you know news organizations that
(26:26):
you like or that you think are relevant to your life.
Let them know what you think, and hopefully they will
be a responsive to that, because I think we're dealing
with a larger societal issue here that people don't trust
the media, and stuff like this only reinforces distrust, so
people trust to alternate sources which are not as trustworthy
and don't have journalistic standards, and then we find ourselves
in a predicament where we're at where this week I'm
(26:47):
being asked by people whether the government is creating hurricanes,
because that's you know, that's a question that people are.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Asking because they so distrust the media.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Mo Founder, editor of Monews.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Check them out Momo dot newsmo dot News or at
Mosha like you said ms h eh on social media.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
Mo.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Great to meet you and thanks for taking time.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Thank you You're the best.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Love to talk to you, guys. I'll be back anytime.
All right.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
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