October 18, 2024 • 28 mins
Gary and Shannon being the second hour of the show with thew news of an unidentified victim dying after a hit-and-run DUI suspect in Santa Monica. Gary and Shannon also talk about scammers using cloning AI to swindle a man out of $25,000 dollars and an Olympic snowboarder and 15 others being accused of cocaine trafficking.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Gary and Shannon k i AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. It is a Friday, which means
late in the show, we're going to do what you
learned this week on The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So do you like your cast members? Are they people
you've worked with before in adult theater?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Most of them? Yes? Oh that's nice. I mean most
of them I've worked with. Yeah, there's a familiarity. Good. Yeah.
Was that the end line of questions?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How far along is a rehearsal situation? Are you guys
pretty much done with it?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How far along are you into the play? Do you
do it like act one? Or do you do like
How does it go?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There's four acts right up to this point, we've done one.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Act per rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I see, so we do Act one notes, turn around,
start from the beginning, do it again, turn around, do
it from the beginning. That's how we've done it. This weekend,
we start with we're going to do X one and
two together, ah, and then three and four and then
by sometime next weekend probably we'll do all all of
them together.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is there somebody who's a weaker cast member who forgets
their lines and you're like.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bob, Yes, Bob is a jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Who doesn't do the work unl unless they're listening a
world in which they could listen to the show, there's.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nobody who's not a professional.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I know what's going on? All right?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Good good morning, Gary and Shannon. Yes, my six year
old grandson calls me yah yah, so every time I
hear his name, it just is cringey.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Plus, my name is Katrina, just like the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh great, two fir. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It's great that you guys talked about testicles. It's actually
a very important subject because the testosterones inside those testicals,
that testosterone gives the man or male or an animal
their ego, their power. They're forced and you're going to
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hear more about this very very soon to hopefully air
on your show.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Really, Ay bye, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Do you and Steve have a testicle special that you're working.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
On, not that I know of, No, huh.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I wonder when we're going to hear more. Is there
some sort of testical movement upon us?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Is there a breakthrough?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is this like when RFK or JFK Junior was supposed
to show up in Detroit or something?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, and Jesus too, right?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And Jesus is this is there like a testicles the
moment that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We should research us. I didn't know that we were
going to hearing more about testicles. Furthermore, Yes, I wonder
where my ego comes from because I don't have testicles.
And if it's in the testicles, why are you looking
at me like that?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I just feel like you're undercutting you. Also do have
testosterone in your body, right, clearly I should probably get
that checked. Nah, maybe I should take something. What do
you take to make yourself more of us?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah? You probably take estrogen or progest awful. I do
not want more of that. I don't know how to
all right, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You want to do the dead person on the beach
or do you want to do a diet soda?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, let's just do the diet soda thing. Because we've
talked about wellness issues before, foods that we eat, et cetera,
and people being caught up in this whole idea that
if you drink a diet soda you can do the
double happy meal or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I've been caught up with that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But a Harvard trained gastro enterologist has come out with
a video specifically detailing four reasons why you looking at
you specifically should not drink diet soda.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Harvard and Stanford Coast to.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Coast dot surub uh saab Seti says, first of all,
women who drink two or more diet sodas a day,
Now that's a lot. That is a lot, but there's
a lot of people who do that. One or two
of drink diet sodas a day. For women, they face
a significantly higher risk of heart attack and stroke. And
they said it's specifically dangerous for women who don't have
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a history of heart disease or diabetes. That the second
thing is the high phosphorus content in diet sodas can
contribute to chronic kidney disease.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I drink like a half a cup once a week.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You don't even finish. Yeah, I say, you don't finish
that bottle that you drink. The third thing, drinking diet
sodas can negatively impact insulin sensitivity and disrupt your gut biome.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What about testosterone? Is there anything in there about that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I probably would strip away whatever testosterone you have. Really,
I don't know, I'm just making that part up. Finally,
the doctor said, diet sodas can increase your cravings for
those high calorie foods, disrupting appetite control, which is part
of the reason why you think you're drinking diet coke
in the first place, is because it's not going to
make you eat those high calorie foods, when in fact
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that's what it is. There is a push going on,
by the way, between RFK Junior and his new would
you say, companionship with former President Trump in the campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
One of the things that go ahead, You're right, what.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Aspartame in particular inhibits the synthesis and the secretion of testosterone.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That was a wild guess on my part.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, you're a doctor now, apparently, screw Harvard and screw Stanford.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
One of the things RFK it wants to do is
he says we're going to become the healthiest nation on Earth.
And that's why we use the term MAHA. Make America
healthy again.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I've seen some banners and things like this, particularly in
Orange County as the spot I'm thinking of where it's
there's a big banner along pch it says, make America
Healthy Again, and then there's a big Trump sign.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He seems to be it's connected. Those two are connected.
There is one thing to be said about or not
one thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
There's many things to be said about the importance of
having a healthy country. If a you're just talking about
the cost of healthcare, the cost of treating chronic illnesses
from birth to death. I mean, we spend so much
money on avoidable problems in our population.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Do you think we see that in our lifetime in
terms of the pendulum swinging the other way and us
moving away from excess and process foods, and the generation after,
the next generation goes super healthy and strips down all
of that and is clean eating and makes all the
right decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, I've never seen it used like this before, and
maybe I just don't remember it, but I've never seen
it you used as a political topic before. It's always
been about look good, feel good, you know, be able
to move some play good, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But it's a very personal thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
This this kind of movement is more about how it
impacts us as a country, as a nation, as a
as a culture, that we change the way we do this,
because there's so many other changes that would come along
with that, less you know, less suffering late in life
kind of stuff, you know, where not everybody gets cancer
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like it seems kind of like the way it is now.
And the second part about it is not just economically
but national security wise.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
The fatter we get China come get us, They're gonna they.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are gonna roll through us like skinny people through fat people.
I mean, that's maybe that's the right way to put it,
but that's there is an issue. I mean, if we
can't rec fruit for our military, what's because of.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
An issue though.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The unhealth of the country or the inability or lack
of want to serve in the military.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, I think they go hand in hand. I don't
know which one is worse.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, there's a lot of people who are not
obese or overweight who would never serve in the military.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
My god, which is so weird. It's very weird. It's
very weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Because it's that same military that has protected our freedom,
that allowed them to make such a decision.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know, I know, look good, feel good, play good.
They pay you good, thank you, Dion pay.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Shien and come on man, the Vikings play the NFC
champion runner up Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
The huge conference rival.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Game first time, all these good teams in that conference,
someone's playing the other dude playing thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Listen to this the NFC North, And he makes a
good point, is freaking lights out.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean, you could argue the weakest link is the
Bears there.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But there's a chance for the entire NFC North to
go to the playoffs. I saw that too, because there
are three wild cards and they buy and large are
kicking everyone else's ass when it comes to how they're
playing and if they can, if they can keep that rolling,
and you know, injury befalls teams, and you know, weird
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things happen. But right now it looks like there's a
chance old division because a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
There are a lot a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hi, Gary, Hi Shannon.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I have a question. Who does the voiceovers for your commercials?
Sometimes it sounds like Gary, but then I'm like, no,
it's not. I'm just curious who that individual is. They
do a great job. Thanks well, they do a great job.
It's probably me. No, So you don't do any of that?
What do you mean I do commercials? Right? But I
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don't think that's what he means.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He'd have to be specific to say which commercial right,
because we got a bunch of different voice people that we.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Do have different voice people. I don't think he was
talking about your commercials though.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean, if you want, you said they're great, and
you think I don't do great commercials?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
What you just said, I.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Did not say that. I think you do a great
job at everything that you do.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Why can't you look at me when you say things?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, it looks like some kids drove an suv onto
the beach and Santa Monica hit and killed a homeless
woman in the process.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah kids, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Kids may be a stretch, but a twenty one year
old man was arrested on suspicion of dui after this
woman was run over and killed driving an Infinity SUV
in circles at high speeds on the sand late last
night before running over the victim woman not I immediately identified,
but was lying on the sand and they said may
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have been asleep at the time that this accident happened.
There is a makeshift homeless encampment. There were several tenths
seen in the area, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
that's who this was. Twenty one year old man driving
this twenty fifteen Infinity SUV was the one who was
going to be arrested suspicion of dy reckless driving, gross
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vehicular manslaughter. Huge portion of that beach had to be
blocked off by police tape overnight.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And into this morning. That's awful. Is that? Is that
a fun thing to drive in circles on the beach?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now it's a drunk, stupid, I'm young and entitled thing,
that's what that is. Second ranked Oregon visits Perdue tonight,
kickoff week eight of the college football season.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But the most important game.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Of course, starts at two eight hour time when the
Dodgers try to seal the deal to get into the
World Series.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There in New York. Game five.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Uh Betsani combined for five hits last night.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's funny, including two home runs five RBI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Seven of the runs that were scored were scored by
either shohe Otani or Mookie bets In that tended to
win last night. The Guardians came back from a two
point was it two runs? Yeah, two runs. It tied
the game in the ninth with a home run. David
Fry won the game with a two run home run
in the bottom of the tenth to beat the Yankees.
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So as of right now, Guardians have that two to
one lead their Game four is the second of the
two games tonight. You mentioned the Oregon game today. UCLA
is at Rutgers tomorrow morning. I think it's like a
nine o'clock kickoff for US, and then USC is at
Maryland just after lunch tomorrow. And Jay Cutler arrested for
the DUI and Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, he's always come across as a complete d
I don't know enough about him to make that decision.
I don't either. I don't either. I'm just saying how
he comes across. Jailed yesterday after he was stopped while allegedly.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Du I at like five pm right two guns, including
a loaded pistol Tennessee. He was arrested after a minor
traffic collision. Apparently he rear ended somebody in downtown Franklin,
which is an awesome little town.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It sure is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
A man was swindled out of twenty five thousand dollars.
And you're going to hear about these more and more
because scammers are getting into the AI market huge. They
say that AI was used to replicate his son's voice
and trick this guy into sending the money.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Awful Anthony, when he talked to Channel seven didn't want
to use his last name.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I look like a fool. I feel like a fool,
but I don't care. I want to help everybody that
I can possibly help.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The call came in from his finger quotes son, and
he said he had been in an accident, that he
had hit a pregnant woman who was rushed to the hospital.
I wonder if your obgu I m that you helped
at the gas station. Oh, the guy help this pregnant
the multiple birth specialists.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
After a short conversation with this fake voice, he got
a call from someone else who claimed to be the
lawyer and said that the Sun needed ninety two hundred
dollars to make bail.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And he said, you need to get ninety two hundred
dollars as fast as you can if you want your
son out of jail. Otherwise he's in for forty five days.
It's interesting that it's a ninety two hundred dollars right,
just detailed enough?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, just enough.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So he gets the money from the bank, apparently tells
the bank teller, I don't know why you would need
to do this, but he told the bank teller that
it was for a solar panel installation.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So he gets ninety two hundred dollars cash. And why
would you just say it's for bail? Have no idea?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The delivery apparatus is the strange thing, because he calls well,
the daughter calls the lawyer. The again finger quotes lawyer
and says, okay, we got the money. Now what And
he says someone will be at the house. It will
be an uber car any minute. Here's what the license
plate is. Here's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Put it in a Manila envelope.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The car pulls up in front of the house, The
daughter goes out and gives the money to the uber driver.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
The uber driver takes off.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Then somebody else called another self identified lawyer who said
the bail has been raised because the woman that was
involved in the accident died, so that they need another
fifteen eight hundred dollars to bring the total to twenty
five grand. So he gets that money and does the
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same delivery drop off where an Uber driver pulls up
in front of his house and they give the money
to the Uber car.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They even picked a lawyer type name Mark Cohen.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Now the daughter was the one who finally sniffed something
out here and says.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Dad, I hope I'm wrong. I think you have just
been scammed out of twenty five thousand dollars. Never even
cross my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And again he told Channel seven that all of this
happened very much. Why did they just call the Sun?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So, he says he did.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
After the initial call from the fake legend the Sun
and then the fake lawyer, he tried to call his
son back and it turned out that the call went
directly to voicemail. May have been just a random thing
that the son didn't get the phone call, but it
all happened, he said, very very fast.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Also, they moved me so fast, I'd never had a
chance to do a second call unless I were to
say to them, hold it, I'm stopping this whole thing
for a minute. I want to talk to my son.
I don't care if he's in jail or where he is.
I want to talk to my son. You don't think
that way.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You don't what are the chances it's the daughter and
the Sun?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, okay, No, I just like to think they You
immediately think it had to be the family. When when
police look at this, there's there's still it's still an
open case. They're still trying to find whoever it was
that scammed Anthony out of these twenty five thousand dollars.
The Sun is fine, by the way, was never involved
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in an accident. I bet it feels awful. No, it's
not his fault. But we've heard about these kinds of
scams before, where you it doesn't always happen this way,
but an older family member, whether it's a parent or
a grandparent, even gets a call from a voice that
they think is their relative saying something like I need
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money for bail, or I got stranded in Mexico or authorities.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It is a demographic. This happened to my mother there
where the IRS called. She believed it was the ir
s because she respects authorities and the government and was
taken for a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And she still beats herself up about it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But you know it, it makes sense that this would
It's awful that people go after older people, you know,
and take advantage of the children, the grandchildren. What have you?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
My mom, if she gets an unidentified.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Call, she answers the phone and says not high, not hello,
She says fu and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
She hangs up. But she says the whole thing that
explains a lot. I just realized.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's okay, now, okay, yeah, because I was starting to
take it personally when she would.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Answer the phone, when I would call her.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The other thing is, hey, this is another reason to
tell your kids you don't do bail right.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
If you're gonna run over a pregnant woman and kill her, honey,
I'm not bailing you out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's just, you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
They did say. The weird wrinkle about this story. I mean,
there's a couple of them, but one of them is
that they used Uber as the pickup drop off for
the cash.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But was it Uber? Well, they did say that they
do believe they were legitimate Uber drivers, sure, but they
could have been in on it. Everyone's an Uber driver,
you know, many crooks or Uber drivers, they said it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And usually in these cases, drivers that are hired through
Uber or Lyft are not are not involved. In fact,
they oftentimes are unaware that they're even part of it. Again,
not a guarantee, because, like I said, in this case specifically,
they still are investigating. But it is possible that the uh,
the Uber drivers didn't know anything that was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Are you an organ doorse?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm an organ donor, and I firmly believe you would.
You should have to opt out of being that. Everyone
should be an organ donor unless you check off a
box or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, and for some people, we should start harvesting before
you or even before you kick it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I've already got DIBs on Jacob's liver. Was it his liver? Yes,
at least a portion of it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, I would just in terms of getting the whole
radiator fixed, do liver and kidneys?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh okay, because the kidneys are good filter for Jacob.
Can I have a kidney talk about we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Take them both.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm gonna see them both. It seems greedy. So no
wine tonight for me, No wine tonight or gin Oh true, employees,
really night is over? You know, fencing his fun right now?
It's not too good.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The craft beer industry is seeing a downward trend for
the second year in a row. Craft beer saw no
growth in twenty twenty three for the first time ever,
not including the pandemic, and minus a one percent production
declined for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's the worst on.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Record since the Brewers Sociation began tracking industry data in
the late seventies. The overall beer industry saw minus five
point one percent production volume. I think it's because of
all those the seltzers. I was at the game in
Seattle on Thursday. I saw a record number of dudes
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drinking those like seltzers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, I'm sure I don't like those. They taste
like chemicals to me. But it's weird seeing a dude
with like a skinny seltzer can.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I know that that makes me sound old and antiquated,
and that plenty of the youth like to drink those
seltzers smle and female.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Some of them are good, but I agree with you,
they seem overly chemically chemically. Yeah, I'd rather have an
old technology like beer like one, of course, light old technology, yeah,
old school.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Even the craft beer like you're talking about it I'd
rather have that a weird seltzer, like a mountain dew hert.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just feel like craft beer may be slowing down
because it got so big.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So quickly in the past twenty years.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Just exploded, and everybody makes it right, everybody right?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
How much room for growth there is.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Kamala Harrison Donald Trump both in Michigan today trying to
lock down support. She is scheduled to begin her day
in Grand Rapids before she holds events in Lansing and
Oakland County, northwest of Detroit. Trump has his own event
in Oakland County in the afternoon and then holds a
rally in Detroit in the evening. They're saying that this
is one of the Blue Wall states, three of them
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along with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, that could help decide this election.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think a big fear that most of us have.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Is if we have to go under the knife for something,
have to have an operation like waking up in the
middle of it, Isn't that terrify.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
The heart of that terrify you. I've heard of that fear.
I can't picture it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Part of it is because I've never had an I've
never had an operation like that. But if I was
told I had to, that would be one of the
first fears I think. Really, yeah, they do good job
knocking you out, They sure do. They don't mess around.
But still it's like one of those irrational fears. Probably,
I mean, it's probably very minuscule the amount of times
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that that happens. Well, there was a guy, Thomas Hoover,
thirty six years old. He had been declared brain dead
when surgeons went to remove his organs.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
This was in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Turns out he was declared brain dead because he had
a drug overdose earlier in the day and declared brain dead.
And he's on the table and as doctors went to
test his heart health for transplant, he reportedly became re animated.
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He started thrashing around on the table as the surgeon
prepared to remove his organs. He was moving around crying visibly.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Nicoletta Martin is his sister, and said, or there was
one of the sisters.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
She became concerned when TJ seemed to open his eyes
and look around as he was being wheeled from the
ICU to the operating room.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I have a question, when your brain dead, can you
still do that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, well you're bought yes, okay, I mean your body's
going to do things, okay, because there comes a time
in a boy's life where his body does things.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
She says that they were told it was a common reflex, yes,
but it wasn't until after he began to move around
and cry that they decided not to move forward with
the harvesting of his organs while he was awake.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The people who worked this.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Core, the transplant supervisor, told them that they were going
to do this case anyway, and the hospital needed to
find another doctor, even though, like you said, the doctor
had said, they're going to put this off very chaotic.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Everybody upset.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Eventually, they never retrieved this guy's organs, well beyond the
fact that he's still alive, and they said several employees quit.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah. Could you imagine if you were like your wife,
for instance, and you're in that oar and there's a
doctor going forward to the transplant and the guys that
would be traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Several of the employees working that transplant team said they
had to seek therapy after this.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah. This is also now bumped up to Congress.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
A letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee about
this incident held a hearing investigation on organ procurement organizations.
So the president chief operating officer of Network for Hope,
which was formed when a couple of these organ donation
networks come together, has denied this whole thing. Julie Bergen
(26:07):
said that no one has ever pressured to been pressured
to collect organs from any living patient, nor do they
recover organs from a living patient, and they've never pressured
any team members to do so.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
They are the experts, the medical ethics people, all of
it are saying this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Is a one off. It is does not very rare.
Doesn't even begin to talk about how.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Rare it is.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But every major hospital, I guarantee you, the ones here
in southern California specifically have representatives from these organ donation networks.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Ready, yeah, they are. They are.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
If they're not staffed in the hospital, they are on
call immediately for for orgon harvesting. If in fact that's
that's what you or your face.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Do we have one around here? We have one? What
an organ harvester? I guarantee you there's one right over
there at the hospital John's. If no, I'm not multiple,
I'm like in the building right Now, our building depends
on how sharp the knife is. That's in the kitchen, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You have a knife on you right, Oh, Jacob's is
probably sharp.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Enough for me to go in and get that kidney.
Oh my own knife, yeah, yeah, it is not sharp enough.
Where would you start cutting? I don't even know where
are they? Like here? Jacob?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I am sorry, you might you might not make it
through that again. She just pointed to her appendix.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well where are they? They're back here?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh right, that's right, because remember when I when I
thought I had kidney failure.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yes, I do know where they are. They're back here.
You to get there eventually. This is not funny.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's a very serious issue, all right, swamp watch when
we come back to Gary and Channon.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
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late in the show, we're going to do what you
learned this week on The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So do you like your cast members? Are they people
you've worked with before in adult theater?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Most of them? Yes? Oh that's nice. I mean most
of them I've worked with. Yeah, there's a familiarity. Good. Yeah.
Was that the end line of questions?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How far along is a rehearsal situation? Are you guys
pretty much done with it?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How far along are you into the play? Do you
do it like act one? Or do you do like
How does it go?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There's four acts right up to this point, we've done one.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Act per rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I see, so we do Act one notes, turn around,
start from the beginning, do it again, turn around, do
it from the beginning. That's how we've done it. This weekend,
we start with we're going to do X one and
two together, ah, and then three and four and then
by sometime next weekend probably we'll do all all of
them together.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is there somebody who's a weaker cast member who forgets
their lines and you're like.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bob, Yes, Bob is a jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Who doesn't do the work unl unless they're listening a
world in which they could listen to the show, there's.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nobody who's not a professional.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I know what's going on? All right?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Good good morning, Gary and Shannon. Yes, my six year
old grandson calls me yah yah, so every time I
hear his name, it just is cringey.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Plus, my name is Katrina, just like the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh great, two fir. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It's great that you guys talked about testicles. It's actually
a very important subject because the testosterones inside those testicals,
that testosterone gives the man or male or an animal
their ego, their power. They're forced and you're going to
(02:10):
hear more about this very very soon to hopefully air
on your show.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Really, Ay bye, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Do you and Steve have a testicle special that you're working.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
On, not that I know of, No, huh.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I wonder when we're going to hear more. Is there
some sort of testical movement upon us?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Is there a breakthrough?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is this like when RFK or JFK Junior was supposed
to show up in Detroit or something?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, and Jesus too, right?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And Jesus is this is there like a testicles the
moment that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We should research us. I didn't know that we were
going to hearing more about testicles. Furthermore, Yes, I wonder
where my ego comes from because I don't have testicles.
And if it's in the testicles, why are you looking
at me like that?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I just feel like you're undercutting you. Also do have
testosterone in your body, right, clearly I should probably get
that checked. Nah, maybe I should take something. What do
you take to make yourself more of us?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah? You probably take estrogen or progest awful. I do
not want more of that. I don't know how to
all right, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You want to do the dead person on the beach
or do you want to do a diet soda?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, let's just do the diet soda thing. Because we've
talked about wellness issues before, foods that we eat, et cetera,
and people being caught up in this whole idea that
if you drink a diet soda you can do the
double happy meal or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I've been caught up with that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But a Harvard trained gastro enterologist has come out with
a video specifically detailing four reasons why you looking at
you specifically should not drink diet soda.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Harvard and Stanford Coast to.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Coast dot surub uh saab Seti says, first of all,
women who drink two or more diet sodas a day,
Now that's a lot. That is a lot, but there's
a lot of people who do that. One or two
of drink diet sodas a day. For women, they face
a significantly higher risk of heart attack and stroke. And
they said it's specifically dangerous for women who don't have
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a history of heart disease or diabetes. That the second
thing is the high phosphorus content in diet sodas can
contribute to chronic kidney disease.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I drink like a half a cup once a week.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You don't even finish. Yeah, I say, you don't finish
that bottle that you drink. The third thing, drinking diet
sodas can negatively impact insulin sensitivity and disrupt your gut biome.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What about testosterone? Is there anything in there about that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I probably would strip away whatever testosterone you have. Really,
I don't know, I'm just making that part up. Finally,
the doctor said, diet sodas can increase your cravings for
those high calorie foods, disrupting appetite control, which is part
of the reason why you think you're drinking diet coke
in the first place, is because it's not going to
make you eat those high calorie foods, when in fact
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that's what it is. There is a push going on,
by the way, between RFK Junior and his new would
you say, companionship with former President Trump in the campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
One of the things that go ahead, You're right, what.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Aspartame in particular inhibits the synthesis and the secretion of testosterone.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That was a wild guess on my part.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, you're a doctor now, apparently, screw Harvard and screw Stanford.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
One of the things RFK it wants to do is
he says we're going to become the healthiest nation on Earth.
And that's why we use the term MAHA. Make America
healthy again.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I've seen some banners and things like this, particularly in
Orange County as the spot I'm thinking of where it's
there's a big banner along pch it says, make America
Healthy Again, and then there's a big Trump sign.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He seems to be it's connected. Those two are connected.
There is one thing to be said about or not
one thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
There's many things to be said about the importance of
having a healthy country. If a you're just talking about
the cost of healthcare, the cost of treating chronic illnesses
from birth to death. I mean, we spend so much
money on avoidable problems in our population.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Do you think we see that in our lifetime in
terms of the pendulum swinging the other way and us
moving away from excess and process foods, and the generation after,
the next generation goes super healthy and strips down all
of that and is clean eating and makes all the
right decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, I've never seen it used like this before, and
maybe I just don't remember it, but I've never seen
it you used as a political topic before. It's always
been about look good, feel good, you know, be able
to move some play good, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But it's a very personal thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
This this kind of movement is more about how it
impacts us as a country, as a nation, as a
as a culture, that we change the way we do this,
because there's so many other changes that would come along
with that, less you know, less suffering late in life
kind of stuff, you know, where not everybody gets cancer
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like it seems kind of like the way it is now.
And the second part about it is not just economically
but national security wise.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
The fatter we get China come get us, They're gonna they.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are gonna roll through us like skinny people through fat people.
I mean, that's maybe that's the right way to put it,
but that's there is an issue. I mean, if we
can't rec fruit for our military, what's because of.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
An issue though.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The unhealth of the country or the inability or lack
of want to serve in the military.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, I think they go hand in hand. I don't
know which one is worse.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, there's a lot of people who are not
obese or overweight who would never serve in the military.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
My god, which is so weird. It's very weird. It's
very weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Because it's that same military that has protected our freedom,
that allowed them to make such a decision.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know, I know, look good, feel good, play good.
They pay you good, thank you, Dion pay.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Shien and come on man, the Vikings play the NFC
champion runner up Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
The huge conference rival.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Game first time, all these good teams in that conference,
someone's playing the other dude playing thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Listen to this the NFC North, And he makes a
good point, is freaking lights out.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean, you could argue the weakest link is the
Bears there.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But there's a chance for the entire NFC North to
go to the playoffs. I saw that too, because there
are three wild cards and they buy and large are
kicking everyone else's ass when it comes to how they're
playing and if they can, if they can keep that rolling,
and you know, injury befalls teams, and you know, weird
(09:35):
things happen. But right now it looks like there's a
chance old division because a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
There are a lot a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hi, Gary, Hi Shannon.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I have a question. Who does the voiceovers for your commercials?
Sometimes it sounds like Gary, but then I'm like, no,
it's not. I'm just curious who that individual is. They
do a great job. Thanks well, they do a great job.
It's probably me. No, So you don't do any of that?
What do you mean I do commercials? Right? But I
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don't think that's what he means.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He'd have to be specific to say which commercial right,
because we got a bunch of different voice people that we.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Do have different voice people. I don't think he was
talking about your commercials though.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean, if you want, you said they're great, and
you think I don't do great commercials?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
What you just said, I.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Did not say that. I think you do a great
job at everything that you do.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Why can't you look at me when you say things?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, it looks like some kids drove an suv onto
the beach and Santa Monica hit and killed a homeless
woman in the process.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah kids, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Kids may be a stretch, but a twenty one year
old man was arrested on suspicion of dui after this
woman was run over and killed driving an Infinity SUV
in circles at high speeds on the sand late last
night before running over the victim woman not I immediately identified,
but was lying on the sand and they said may
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have been asleep at the time that this accident happened.
There is a makeshift homeless encampment. There were several tenths
seen in the area, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
that's who this was. Twenty one year old man driving
this twenty fifteen Infinity SUV was the one who was
going to be arrested suspicion of dy reckless driving, gross
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vehicular manslaughter. Huge portion of that beach had to be
blocked off by police tape overnight.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And into this morning. That's awful. Is that? Is that
a fun thing to drive in circles on the beach?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now it's a drunk, stupid, I'm young and entitled thing,
that's what that is. Second ranked Oregon visits Perdue tonight,
kickoff week eight of the college football season.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But the most important game.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Of course, starts at two eight hour time when the
Dodgers try to seal the deal to get into the
World Series.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There in New York. Game five.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Uh Betsani combined for five hits last night.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's funny, including two home runs five RBI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Seven of the runs that were scored were scored by
either shohe Otani or Mookie bets In that tended to
win last night. The Guardians came back from a two
point was it two runs? Yeah, two runs. It tied
the game in the ninth with a home run. David
Fry won the game with a two run home run
in the bottom of the tenth to beat the Yankees.
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So as of right now, Guardians have that two to
one lead their Game four is the second of the
two games tonight. You mentioned the Oregon game today. UCLA
is at Rutgers tomorrow morning. I think it's like a
nine o'clock kickoff for US, and then USC is at
Maryland just after lunch tomorrow. And Jay Cutler arrested for
the DUI and Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, he's always come across as a complete d
I don't know enough about him to make that decision.
I don't either. I don't either. I'm just saying how
he comes across. Jailed yesterday after he was stopped while allegedly.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Du I at like five pm right two guns, including
a loaded pistol Tennessee. He was arrested after a minor
traffic collision. Apparently he rear ended somebody in downtown Franklin,
which is an awesome little town.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It sure is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
A man was swindled out of twenty five thousand dollars.
And you're going to hear about these more and more
because scammers are getting into the AI market huge. They
say that AI was used to replicate his son's voice
and trick this guy into sending the money.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Awful Anthony, when he talked to Channel seven didn't want
to use his last name.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I look like a fool. I feel like a fool,
but I don't care. I want to help everybody that
I can possibly help.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The call came in from his finger quotes son, and
he said he had been in an accident, that he
had hit a pregnant woman who was rushed to the hospital.
I wonder if your obgu I m that you helped
at the gas station. Oh, the guy help this pregnant
the multiple birth specialists.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
After a short conversation with this fake voice, he got
a call from someone else who claimed to be the
lawyer and said that the Sun needed ninety two hundred
dollars to make bail.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And he said, you need to get ninety two hundred
dollars as fast as you can if you want your
son out of jail. Otherwise he's in for forty five days.
It's interesting that it's a ninety two hundred dollars right,
just detailed enough?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, just enough.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So he gets the money from the bank, apparently tells
the bank teller, I don't know why you would need
to do this, but he told the bank teller that
it was for a solar panel installation.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So he gets ninety two hundred dollars cash. And why
would you just say it's for bail? Have no idea?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The delivery apparatus is the strange thing, because he calls well,
the daughter calls the lawyer. The again finger quotes lawyer
and says, okay, we got the money. Now what And
he says someone will be at the house. It will
be an uber car any minute. Here's what the license
plate is. Here's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Put it in a Manila envelope.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The car pulls up in front of the house, The
daughter goes out and gives the money to the uber driver.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
The uber driver takes off.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Then somebody else called another self identified lawyer who said
the bail has been raised because the woman that was
involved in the accident died, so that they need another
fifteen eight hundred dollars to bring the total to twenty
five grand. So he gets that money and does the
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same delivery drop off where an Uber driver pulls up
in front of his house and they give the money
to the Uber car.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They even picked a lawyer type name Mark Cohen.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Now the daughter was the one who finally sniffed something
out here and says.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Dad, I hope I'm wrong. I think you have just
been scammed out of twenty five thousand dollars. Never even
cross my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And again he told Channel seven that all of this
happened very much. Why did they just call the Sun?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So, he says he did.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
After the initial call from the fake legend the Sun
and then the fake lawyer, he tried to call his
son back and it turned out that the call went
directly to voicemail. May have been just a random thing
that the son didn't get the phone call, but it
all happened, he said, very very fast.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Also, they moved me so fast, I'd never had a
chance to do a second call unless I were to
say to them, hold it, I'm stopping this whole thing
for a minute. I want to talk to my son.
I don't care if he's in jail or where he is.
I want to talk to my son. You don't think
that way.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You don't what are the chances it's the daughter and
the Sun?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, okay, No, I just like to think they You
immediately think it had to be the family. When when
police look at this, there's there's still it's still an
open case. They're still trying to find whoever it was
that scammed Anthony out of these twenty five thousand dollars.
The Sun is fine, by the way, was never involved
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in an accident. I bet it feels awful. No, it's
not his fault. But we've heard about these kinds of
scams before, where you it doesn't always happen this way,
but an older family member, whether it's a parent or
a grandparent, even gets a call from a voice that
they think is their relative saying something like I need
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money for bail, or I got stranded in Mexico or authorities.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It is a demographic. This happened to my mother there
where the IRS called. She believed it was the ir
s because she respects authorities and the government and was
taken for a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And she still beats herself up about it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But you know it, it makes sense that this would
It's awful that people go after older people, you know,
and take advantage of the children, the grandchildren. What have you?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
My mom, if she gets an unidentified.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Call, she answers the phone and says not high, not hello,
She says fu and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
She hangs up. But she says the whole thing that
explains a lot. I just realized.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's okay, now, okay, yeah, because I was starting to
take it personally when she would.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Answer the phone, when I would call her.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The other thing is, hey, this is another reason to
tell your kids you don't do bail right.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
If you're gonna run over a pregnant woman and kill her, honey,
I'm not bailing you out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's just, you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
They did say. The weird wrinkle about this story. I mean,
there's a couple of them, but one of them is
that they used Uber as the pickup drop off for
the cash.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But was it Uber? Well, they did say that they
do believe they were legitimate Uber drivers, sure, but they
could have been in on it. Everyone's an Uber driver,
you know, many crooks or Uber drivers, they said it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And usually in these cases, drivers that are hired through
Uber or Lyft are not are not involved. In fact,
they oftentimes are unaware that they're even part of it. Again,
not a guarantee, because, like I said, in this case specifically,
they still are investigating. But it is possible that the uh,
the Uber drivers didn't know anything that was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Are you an organ doorse?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm an organ donor, and I firmly believe you would.
You should have to opt out of being that. Everyone
should be an organ donor unless you check off a
box or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, and for some people, we should start harvesting before
you or even before you kick it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I've already got DIBs on Jacob's liver. Was it his liver? Yes,
at least a portion of it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, I would just in terms of getting the whole
radiator fixed, do liver and kidneys?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh okay, because the kidneys are good filter for Jacob.
Can I have a kidney talk about we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Take them both.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm gonna see them both. It seems greedy. So no
wine tonight for me, No wine tonight or gin Oh true, employees,
really night is over? You know, fencing his fun right now?
It's not too good.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The craft beer industry is seeing a downward trend for
the second year in a row. Craft beer saw no
growth in twenty twenty three for the first time ever,
not including the pandemic, and minus a one percent production
declined for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's the worst on.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Record since the Brewers Sociation began tracking industry data in
the late seventies. The overall beer industry saw minus five
point one percent production volume. I think it's because of
all those the seltzers. I was at the game in
Seattle on Thursday. I saw a record number of dudes
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drinking those like seltzers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, I'm sure I don't like those. They taste
like chemicals to me. But it's weird seeing a dude
with like a skinny seltzer can.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I know that that makes me sound old and antiquated,
and that plenty of the youth like to drink those
seltzers smle and female.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Some of them are good, but I agree with you,
they seem overly chemically chemically. Yeah, I'd rather have an
old technology like beer like one, of course, light old technology, yeah,
old school.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Even the craft beer like you're talking about it I'd
rather have that a weird seltzer, like a mountain dew hert.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just feel like craft beer may be slowing down
because it got so big.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So quickly in the past twenty years.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Just exploded, and everybody makes it right, everybody right?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
How much room for growth there is.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Kamala Harrison Donald Trump both in Michigan today trying to
lock down support. She is scheduled to begin her day
in Grand Rapids before she holds events in Lansing and
Oakland County, northwest of Detroit. Trump has his own event
in Oakland County in the afternoon and then holds a
rally in Detroit in the evening. They're saying that this
is one of the Blue Wall states, three of them
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along with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, that could help decide this election.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think a big fear that most of us have.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Is if we have to go under the knife for something,
have to have an operation like waking up in the
middle of it, Isn't that terrify.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
The heart of that terrify you. I've heard of that fear.
I can't picture it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Part of it is because I've never had an I've
never had an operation like that. But if I was
told I had to, that would be one of the
first fears I think. Really, yeah, they do good job
knocking you out, They sure do. They don't mess around.
But still it's like one of those irrational fears. Probably,
I mean, it's probably very minuscule the amount of times
(23:24):
that that happens. Well, there was a guy, Thomas Hoover,
thirty six years old. He had been declared brain dead
when surgeons went to remove his organs.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
This was in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Turns out he was declared brain dead because he had
a drug overdose earlier in the day and declared brain dead.
And he's on the table and as doctors went to
test his heart health for transplant, he reportedly became re animated.
(23:58):
He started thrashing around on the table as the surgeon
prepared to remove his organs. He was moving around crying visibly.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Nicoletta Martin is his sister, and said, or there was
one of the sisters.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
She became concerned when TJ seemed to open his eyes
and look around as he was being wheeled from the
ICU to the operating room.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I have a question, when your brain dead, can you
still do that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, well you're bought yes, okay, I mean your body's
going to do things, okay, because there comes a time
in a boy's life where his body does things.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
She says that they were told it was a common reflex, yes,
but it wasn't until after he began to move around
and cry that they decided not to move forward with
the harvesting of his organs while he was awake.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The people who worked this.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Core, the transplant supervisor, told them that they were going
to do this case anyway, and the hospital needed to
find another doctor, even though, like you said, the doctor
had said, they're going to put this off very chaotic.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Everybody upset.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Eventually, they never retrieved this guy's organs, well beyond the
fact that he's still alive, and they said several employees quit.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah. Could you imagine if you were like your wife,
for instance, and you're in that oar and there's a
doctor going forward to the transplant and the guys that
would be traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Several of the employees working that transplant team said they
had to seek therapy after this.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah. This is also now bumped up to Congress.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
A letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee about
this incident held a hearing investigation on organ procurement organizations.
So the president chief operating officer of Network for Hope,
which was formed when a couple of these organ donation
networks come together, has denied this whole thing. Julie Bergen
(26:07):
said that no one has ever pressured to been pressured
to collect organs from any living patient, nor do they
recover organs from a living patient, and they've never pressured
any team members to do so.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
They are the experts, the medical ethics people, all of
it are saying this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Is a one off. It is does not very rare.
Doesn't even begin to talk about how.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Rare it is.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But every major hospital, I guarantee you, the ones here
in southern California specifically have representatives from these organ donation networks.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Ready, yeah, they are. They are.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
If they're not staffed in the hospital, they are on
call immediately for for orgon harvesting. If in fact that's
that's what you or your face.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Do we have one around here? We have one? What
an organ harvester? I guarantee you there's one right over
there at the hospital John's. If no, I'm not multiple,
I'm like in the building right Now, our building depends
on how sharp the knife is. That's in the kitchen, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You have a knife on you right, Oh, Jacob's is
probably sharp.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Enough for me to go in and get that kidney.
Oh my own knife, yeah, yeah, it is not sharp enough.
Where would you start cutting? I don't even know where
are they? Like here? Jacob?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I am sorry, you might you might not make it
through that again. She just pointed to her appendix.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well where are they? They're back here?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh right, that's right, because remember when I when I
thought I had kidney failure.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yes, I do know where they are. They're back here.
You to get there eventually. This is not funny.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's a very serious issue, all right, swamp watch when
we come back to Gary and Channon.
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