May 12, 2025 • 23 mins
DHS is investigating L.A. County regarding federal benefits for unauthorized immigrants. A recent poll shows favorable results for Kamala Harris but not for Karen Bass. Newsom is urging California cities and counties to ban homeless encampments. Stop feeding Santa Monica’s ground squirrels — a park population is going nuts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Today, the Trump administration has announced that it has launched
an investigation into the cash assistance program for immigrants run
by the state. Again provides cash benefits to older people,
blind people, disabled, non citizens who would otherwise be ineligible
for Social Security benefits because of their immigration status. And
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again the Trump administration launching an investigation into this.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Michael Monks from KFI News is on this as he
is on everything Los Angeles related, joins us, Now, how
would this work out? What aim could they possibly take
at this from Washington?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, it's a law that federal money cannot be used
to pay for illegal immigrants, especially when it comes to
things like Social Security. Regardless of whether these folks are
working with fake Social Security numbers. While here they are
paying into the system, they can never draw on it
as long as their status remains illegal. So this is
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a program that was developed by the state to sort
of bypass that. Now the state says it is one
hundred percent state funded. This is state money that is
being used to pay five hundred up to one thousand
dollars to the folks that you mentioned, Gary, older folks,
people who have disabilities, people who are blind and otherwise
are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits. The state
program is administered right here in Los Angeles County at
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the Department of Public and Social Services.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So they have issued a subpoena I think they call
it a Title eight subpoena to the cash Assistance program
for immigrants. Well, and what the I mean, They're just
going to be able to look at names and birth
certificates and things like that if they exist.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Where does the federal government come down on giving benefits
to illegal immigrants over people who are natural born citizens.
I think that's Christy Noam's argument, is that politicians here
are prioritizing illegal aliens over American citizens.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You're hearing that in a lot of different ways. That's
exactly the tenor that has been taken by the Trump administration.
Just recently we heard them talk about college tuition and
how if you are an illegal immigrant here in California,
if you meet certain criteria, you can attend a state
school a community college at the in state tuition level,
whereas somebody from Nevada or perhaps Ohio could not immediately
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relocate here and receive the same benefit. So they are
targeting the way that some programs prioritize illegal immigrants over
American citizens. This is one that they are clearly checking
out to see whether federal money has been used to
pay for this program. Again, the state says it's one
hundred percent state funded. But with the subpoena the title
eighted subpoena, as you noted, that means you're obligated to
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turn over information and possibly compelled to be deposed or
give a further testimony about this. And what that could
set up is one the federal government could find. Yep,
you were telling the truth. This is all state funds.
There's really nothing that we can do about this, though
we would discourage it. But this is a county that
is very sympathetic to illegal immigrants and it is now
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being asked to turn over very sensitive information at a
time of great uncertainty for illegal immigrants. So that's where
I would expect to see some sort of legal challenge
or any type of maneuvering that can be done at
the local level to stop this, because you're basically handing
a lot of documents over to a federal government that
is hostile to illegal immigrants and basically saying here they are,
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this is where you find Now.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There are dozens of counties in California, though this at
least this investigation is specifically LA County's version of this
state program.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I believe the characterization of this program is that LA
County administers it for the entire state. So that is
why LA County has been targeted here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well by hook or by crook. LA County is not
going to stop doing this. I would imagine that they would.
It's not like they're going to just cease this program
based on the Trump administration picking a fight with it.
I mean, they pride themselves on being a sanctuary city
and county and all of it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Exactly. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So these are our county cities here locally that are
hostile to the Trump administration. The state is hostile to
the Trump administration in many ways. We see every few
days the Attorney General and or the governor holding a
press conference and talking about what they're suing the administration over. Now,
and it's been almost I think maybe more than a
dozen lawsuits filed at this point. So you have to
expect that the Trump administration is going to punch back
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in another way at some point, not necessarily on the
issues the state is suing over, but to find something else.
So these battles are really just getting started. We're barely
four months into this administration and it's already gotten ugly.
It's only going to get uglier.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
A bunch of advocates for immigrants have said also that
this is not even necessarily that the Trumpet administration wants
to win this or wants to even find anything. Just
the fact that they're announcing an investigation, that they've issued
a subpoena, that they're looking for that information.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They're afraid that's going to cause the chilling effect.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Perhaps, Yeah, And there is a also the possibility that
if you're somebody who helps an illegal immigrant in anyway,
if you provide them some money, if you employ them,
that if you see this type of act taking place,
you might reconsider because what if I'm subject to criminal
prosecution at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Do I need to stop this?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
And we hear the ads from the Department of Homeland
Security even on our airways, these are things that we
have to run all you hear them on radio stations
across LA including the Spanish language ones, where Christy Nome
is basically saying, look, if you're an illegal immigrant here,
the time to leave is right now.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Have you made any more ice cream lately?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We have made some more ice cream. We're going to
bring some in next week. I'm hoping to try some
new flavors. We're going to be experimenting this coming weekend.
Oh yeah, see if it turns out, I'm very I
love blueberry, but I don't want to just do a blueberry.
I like the idea of can I do a blueberry
like waffle situation. I don't know if I'm that advanced interesting.
I don't know if I'm that advanced duram big. Yeah,
(05:53):
but I'm gonna give it a try and if it's
if it's good, I'll bring it in. If it's bad,
I'll bring it in and you can taste it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
If it's good, I'll bring in one bucket, and if
it's bad, I'll bring in four.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
All the ingredients how to create something, you should create it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, that's what we're doing now. We're going for you
never know how long this radio gig is gonna last.
You gotta have a side of that long claws ticking.
I'll tell you that black is ticking, not long. All right,
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Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh, thank the apple does not fall far Tanny. My goodness,
good for her.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
All right, make that money well up next new pull away,
but make money on the way.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
New poll has some interesting news for people like Kamala
Harris and Karen Bass, two similar politicians.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Maybe their arrows are pointed different directions.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh, I think Karen Bass would slap you across the
face hearing that.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
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Speaker 1 (07:04):
Forty California voters have sharply differing views over Kamala Harris
and Karen Bass. Former VP came Kamala Harri excuse me?
Is expected to decide by the end of summer whether
she's going to run where she is universal name recognition,
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of course she does. By California voters, fifty percent view
her favorably. This is, according to a new survey by
UC Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies. In contrast, Mayor Karen
Bass not doing so well. She's got that whole fire
thing that's hanging around the fact that she took off,
She got the forecast it was going to be dire,
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and took off anyway on a trip and then refuses
to take accountability, the same way the Menendez brothers are
going to find that refusing to take accountability.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Will bite you right in the ass.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
They are not good her approval ratings here in Los Angeles,
and that's saying something.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's I don't like necessarily the placing of the two
names together, only that they're prominent Democrats in California.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They're not up for the same position.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Now the fact that there and I thought this was
going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
A story about all Democrats and the race for governor
in California. When I saw the headline looking good for
Kamala and so much for Karen, I thought, oh, they
must have taken the whole field at play and compared
compared these two because they're I don't know, it looks
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really bad for the LA Times and for UC Berkeley
to put these two toe to toe. They're very different.
Just because they're black and female. It looks really bad.
You look like racists, honestly when you put these two,
because there's no reason they should be squaring off, and
they're they're very different careers, they're very different people.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And they're not going after the same position exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's your point that Karen Bass was sworn in by
Kamala Harris when she was elected mayor here in LA
and both of them, perhaps the closest they ever got
to any sort of competition was when both of their
names appeared on the list for potential running mates for
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They've never competed against each other. I don't think they
would compete against each other in the event that it
ever came to that. And there's no plans as far
as I know, for Karen Bass to run for governor.
So it's a silly it's a silly proposition perhaps to
put these two other than just to illustrate being vice
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president of the United States. Even though you don't do
a whole lot, you're gonna get a lot of name recognition. Granted,
I mean, Kamala Harris has been in California for years.
She grew up here, so the idea that she has
ninety six percent name recognition should not be surprising. That
the thing is that ninety six percent name recognition gives
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her not just a leg up, it gives her multiple
legs up on any competition that she would have in
that race for governor.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It says in this article in the La Times that
Mayor Antonio Vierra gos a hair supporter. By the way
we talked to him at the convention. In fact, he
was there for her, although kind of not given a
major role. It says, you know that California is not
a stepping stone. He said, is stop playing footsie, either
run for governor or not, showing some lack of patience
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when it comes to her decision, because he's a realist
and he knows he should stop throwing money into the
wind if she's gonna run, which is true. It's like
if you've spent one dollar running for governor so far
in California, she comes in, she's gonna make you look
like a fool.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's wasted money.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It is because she's gonna run away with it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
If you miss any part of the show, go back
and check out the podcast. Oh I told you my
cousin heard the Weekend Fix. Yeah, the one segment that
shows up on Saturdays that are not that is not
part of our regular show. And he said, right before
the end, he heard you say something. And I said, well,
(11:11):
you should double check that, and he said, she definitely
said it. I re listened to it, and he says,
I like her more.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Now, Oh that's very sweet. I don't remember what was said.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
There was some choice words.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well I thought that was off the air.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
We may but both thought it was okay.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Here all right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Coming up next? Would you like to talk about the homeless? Well,
I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Gavin Newsom is finding his Republican roots.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm thinking about being a homeless. I'm thinking about just
give it a shot. You know what, just like not
coming to work anymore, not doing anything, living off the land,
but like a sidewalk so I'm not really in a
rural place. So if I needed something like I could
make it to a corner store, like a bag of
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potato chips or something.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
What but just like you know, disappearing into the skid row.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What color tent would you have? I just want to
keep good question. So I'm thinking I thought about this,
and I'm thinking yellow. And here's why. We went through
about a week and a half of darkness not too
long ago, right, and I feel like, and it's kind
of dark right now. I don't see a lot of sun.
I see a little light poking through, which is nice.
But if my tent is yellow, it can mimic the sun.
(12:31):
I look up in the morning, I see yellow, and
I feel, oh, it's a nice day. If I got
a navy tent, i'd look up and uh, winter is
still here.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So you're gonna get a yellow tent to fight against
your seasonal effectives. Think so you miss any part of
our show, go back and check out the podcast. You
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Speaker 5 (12:52):
Now, can I come up?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Use one of those you know, those little campfire type
grills I bought, like a charcoal?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Could I use that inside the tent if I have
a thing on the top that has some ventilation, like
a little can.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah, I just don't want people to take my sausages.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
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Speaker 1 (13:22):
Have you heard about the tainted pizza deliveries. We'll be
getting into this coming up in the next hour, but
federal judges say that unsolicited, unsolicited.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I want to know where that was going to go, too.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Fascinating unsolicited pizza deliveries have been turning have been turning
up to their homes, and that it's not just a
nice thing that people are doing.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Let's send the judge of pizza.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, the FBI has gotten involved in calling it a
three will tell you everything you need to know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hey, don't look now, but Gavin Newsom is trying to
wear a Republican costume. Gavin Newsom, with all of his
future ambitions on the line, is testing some rather moderate,
definitely not left leaning policies to try to garner some
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sort of moderate credentials as he gears up for what
we assume will be a twenty twenty eight presidential campaign.
In this case, today, Governor Newsom wanted to encourage cities, towns,
counties throughout California to ban tent camps on any sidewalk,
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bike path, parkland, public property, etc. And he obviously, as governor,
he can't force the cities or these other municipalities to
do so. But he issued this directive slash, hey guys,
could you do me a favor?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Memo today with a basically a suggestion.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
This is a piece of paper for the cover my
ass when I run for president. File This is so
that he can say I did what I could. I
understand homelessness is a problem in California. Who wouldn't want
to live in California. We have the weather, we have
all the services. It's wonderful what we've been able to do.
A safety net for our less, our more vulnerable Americans.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I tried to clean it up.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There's there's one thing about this that I want to
point out.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It's kind of a sidelight.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Sean Hubler wrote this article for The New York Times,
and I think Sean Hubler is a little bit deep
in the Gavin Newsom juice.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
There's a term in there fifth paragraph I don't want
to ever hear that.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Once a combative champion of liberal policies in a vocal
Trump critic administration critic, mister Newsom has been stress testing
his party's positions.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The reason I point that out I sat through a
couple episodes of that Gavin Newsom podcast. This Gavin Newsom,
and this is whoever else he's talking to. He uses
the term stress test six eight times yeah per.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Hour is latest to meet the moment, right, So the
fact that Sean Hubler used that term in here, he's
adopted his own. He's adopted Newsom's own talking points. Essentially, that's,
by the way, what all of the presidential candidates are
going to do now.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They're all going to have a podcast. Used to have
a listening tour.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A book, a book, different vehicles to run for president,
and now the podcast has been added to that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's this whole thing that this this issuance for this
model ban comes with money. It comes with about three
point three billion dollars in the state controlled housing funds
that local official would be able to use to put
the template in place. That's about half of the bond
that we passed last year, six six point four billion
in bond. There's a couple of fundamental problems with it,
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and it's just a I shouldn't say it's just a
California thing, but it is problematic here in the state
of California.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Even in the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Third paragraph of this article, it says California is home
to about half of the nation's homeless population population. We
all know that a lot of that is because of the.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Temperature.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean, the climate here is if you're going to
be homeless, this is not a bad place to be homeless.
You're not going to go through wild swings of ice
storms and hurricanes. Right, It's going to be relatively moderate
temperature just about anywhere you go in the state. But
they also say that it is because of the state's
brutal housing crisis. We've got to stop telling people that
this is a housing crisis issue, that somehow the price
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of housing is what's driving people crazy and putting them
on drugs and then telling them that they can live
feral in a park somewhere with no repercussions.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
When we tried to buy our first house, it was
a struggle. Everywhere we wanted to live, you couldn't afford
It wasn't an option to go live on the street.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You weren't going to move into your car.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right, those are yes, there's an affordable housing crisis in California.
It's not the same, it's a different type of crisis anyway.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
All right, Coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Next, we've got cher who is weighed back into the
fray when it comes to the elephant fight in Los
Angeles and there is a squirrel fight in Santa Monica. Oh,
I love the idea of Santa Monica being overrun by squirrels.
Third Street Promenade. Nobody's going there anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Just a squirrels. Just give it back to nature.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Give it back to nature.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The mountain lions now have that bridge, they can trot
on over and populate Santa Monica.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Get rid of the parking people. That's what I really
want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Go away parking. They're awful Santa. Or make the squirrels
the parking people.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Oh man, they'd be so drunk on power.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
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Speaker 4 (19:11):
I'll say it again and again, Shannon Farren, you make
me laugh and smile. Thank you. I love you as
a fan. Not a freak.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Not a freak?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Is that the penis thing? What were we laughing about? Squirrels?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Squirrels have become a problem in Santa Monica at Palisades Park.
Apparently about one hundred ground squirrels have taken over Palisades
Park and they say it's almost like a scene out
of the birds, but with squirrels. That's terrifying. Tippy Hedron
went through hell in that movie. She also cared about
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the animals, right, she had a sanctuary.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I was gonna say she had a big cat.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Is that relions?
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Something, But I.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Didn't realize squirrels eat like grazing.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Oh, like a cow.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, sheep or goats or something like that. Little brown
rodents would come out as the sun and the people
come out.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's a lot of squirrels.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
In the moment named Gwendolen Fogel visits a farmer's market.
She said, this is the first time she's seen so
many squirrels in the park. One of them chased us,
which I've never seen squirrels do.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
People are feeding the squirrels and you can't do that.
But the thing is, the squirrels have always been there.
They're pretty well established. I guess now they're just getting
fed more so they're making more babies.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, it's our fault.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's our fault.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
We can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The controversy over elephants at the La Zoo at City
Hall has intensified.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
They where we last left them.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
A Billy and Tina the elephant would be moved to
a zoo in Oklahoma where they would have more room
to roam.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And this has been.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A problem for as long as I have been here,
whether to send them to.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
A bigger zoo, a nicer zoo, or a sanctuary, and
where that should be. It's like people are fighting over
where the elephants at the La Zoo should be taken.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
That's nicer for the elephant.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So is it?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The zoo if they were transferred, would be in the
single digit acres like six or seven acres of an
elephant exhibit a habitat, or a sanctuary, which would be
one hundred acres.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I mean that seems to be sort of the.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Fight here. Share Chaer has signed on to a lawsuit
that was filed in La County Superior Court. I don't
think she's a part of it, but she's at least
attached to declaration. She wrote, Billy and Tina have served
their time in confinement. They deserve the chance to live
out their lives in peace and dignity. I don't mind
the fight. I've all the respect for people who want
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these animals to live out their waning days in comfort.
The two things I have a problem with number one,
that there is an organization that puts out a ten
worst Zoos for Elephants list.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Someone spends time on that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And then the other thing is that the City of La,
the City government of La, has anything to do with
decisions about animals like that.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Great when we talked about.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It last week, and was it bob uh Bob Bloomenfield, Bloomenfield,
why would it?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I would be I would be incensed if my city
council member was the was had any opinions about elephants
and their habitat at the La Zoo. There are five
thousand other things that should be on your list above
Billy and Tina. And again I'm not saying that people
shouldn't fight for them. Yes, I also want to see
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elephants live out their days in comfort and to be
cared for God's creatures.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Apparently Bob Bloomenfield has been a long time advocate for
the elephants.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It may have helped them get elected.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Then shame on us. Shame for shame.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right, coming up next swamp watch. Sorry, I'm drinking
hot stuff to make the throat thing go away.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
How's it? How's it going? It's still there.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't want it to get to the point where
it sounds that, you know, like it sounds hard to
listen to.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, it always sounds different to you than it does
to other people in your own head. Yeah sound fine?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
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Speaker 4 (23:33):
Anywhere you find podcasts. You'll see us right there.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
We have a fun jeopardy question. Okay, yeah, it's about mascots.
Oh really yeah, you love mascots.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Those are fun. You've been listening to the Gary and
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Today, the Trump administration has announced that it has launched
an investigation into the cash assistance program for immigrants run
by the state. Again provides cash benefits to older people,
blind people, disabled, non citizens who would otherwise be ineligible
for Social Security benefits because of their immigration status. And
(00:27):
again the Trump administration launching an investigation into this.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Michael Monks from KFI News is on this as he
is on everything Los Angeles related, joins us, Now, how
would this work out? What aim could they possibly take
at this from Washington?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, it's a law that federal money cannot be used
to pay for illegal immigrants, especially when it comes to
things like Social Security. Regardless of whether these folks are
working with fake Social Security numbers. While here they are
paying into the system, they can never draw on it
as long as their status remains illegal. So this is
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a program that was developed by the state to sort
of bypass that. Now the state says it is one
hundred percent state funded. This is state money that is
being used to pay five hundred up to one thousand
dollars to the folks that you mentioned, Gary, older folks,
people who have disabilities, people who are blind and otherwise
are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits. The state
program is administered right here in Los Angeles County at
(01:27):
the Department of Public and Social Services.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So they have issued a subpoena I think they call
it a Title eight subpoena to the cash Assistance program
for immigrants. Well, and what the I mean, They're just
going to be able to look at names and birth
certificates and things like that if they exist.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Where does the federal government come down on giving benefits
to illegal immigrants over people who are natural born citizens.
I think that's Christy Noam's argument, is that politicians here
are prioritizing illegal aliens over American citizens.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You're hearing that in a lot of different ways. That's
exactly the tenor that has been taken by the Trump administration.
Just recently we heard them talk about college tuition and
how if you are an illegal immigrant here in California,
if you meet certain criteria, you can attend a state
school a community college at the in state tuition level,
whereas somebody from Nevada or perhaps Ohio could not immediately
(02:23):
relocate here and receive the same benefit. So they are
targeting the way that some programs prioritize illegal immigrants over
American citizens. This is one that they are clearly checking
out to see whether federal money has been used to
pay for this program. Again, the state says it's one
hundred percent state funded. But with the subpoena the title
eighted subpoena, as you noted, that means you're obligated to
(02:44):
turn over information and possibly compelled to be deposed or
give a further testimony about this. And what that could
set up is one the federal government could find. Yep,
you were telling the truth. This is all state funds.
There's really nothing that we can do about this, though
we would discourage it. But this is a county that
is very sympathetic to illegal immigrants and it is now
(03:06):
being asked to turn over very sensitive information at a
time of great uncertainty for illegal immigrants. So that's where
I would expect to see some sort of legal challenge
or any type of maneuvering that can be done at
the local level to stop this, because you're basically handing
a lot of documents over to a federal government that
is hostile to illegal immigrants and basically saying here they are,
(03:26):
this is where you find Now.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There are dozens of counties in California, though this at
least this investigation is specifically LA County's version of this
state program.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I believe the characterization of this program is that LA
County administers it for the entire state. So that is
why LA County has been targeted here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well by hook or by crook. LA County is not
going to stop doing this. I would imagine that they would.
It's not like they're going to just cease this program
based on the Trump administration picking a fight with it.
I mean, they pride themselves on being a sanctuary city
and county and all of it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Exactly. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So these are our county cities here locally that are
hostile to the Trump administration. The state is hostile to
the Trump administration in many ways. We see every few
days the Attorney General and or the governor holding a
press conference and talking about what they're suing the administration over. Now,
and it's been almost I think maybe more than a
dozen lawsuits filed at this point. So you have to
expect that the Trump administration is going to punch back
(04:25):
in another way at some point, not necessarily on the
issues the state is suing over, but to find something else.
So these battles are really just getting started. We're barely
four months into this administration and it's already gotten ugly.
It's only going to get uglier.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
A bunch of advocates for immigrants have said also that
this is not even necessarily that the Trumpet administration wants
to win this or wants to even find anything. Just
the fact that they're announcing an investigation, that they've issued
a subpoena, that they're looking for that information.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They're afraid that's going to cause the chilling effect.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Perhaps, Yeah, And there is a also the possibility that
if you're somebody who helps an illegal immigrant in anyway,
if you provide them some money, if you employ them,
that if you see this type of act taking place,
you might reconsider because what if I'm subject to criminal
prosecution at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Do I need to stop this?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
And we hear the ads from the Department of Homeland
Security even on our airways, these are things that we
have to run all you hear them on radio stations
across LA including the Spanish language ones, where Christy Nome
is basically saying, look, if you're an illegal immigrant here,
the time to leave is right now.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Have you made any more ice cream lately?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We have made some more ice cream. We're going to
bring some in next week. I'm hoping to try some
new flavors. We're going to be experimenting this coming weekend.
Oh yeah, see if it turns out, I'm very I
love blueberry, but I don't want to just do a blueberry.
I like the idea of can I do a blueberry
like waffle situation. I don't know if I'm that advanced interesting.
I don't know if I'm that advanced duram big. Yeah,
(05:53):
but I'm gonna give it a try and if it's
if it's good, I'll bring it in. If it's bad,
I'll bring it in and you can taste it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
If it's good, I'll bring in one bucket, and if
it's bad, I'll bring in four.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
All the ingredients how to create something, you should create it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, that's what we're doing now. We're going for you
never know how long this radio gig is gonna last.
You gotta have a side of that long claws ticking.
I'll tell you that black is ticking, not long. All right,
quick quick update Tenny garagoas.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Shannon Gary janis here and see me Valley. The Garygos
involved in the Sean Detdi Combs trial is the daughter
of Mark Ah. I just thought i'd let you know
in case found that out.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh, thank the apple does not fall far Tanny. My goodness,
good for her.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
All right, make that money well up next new pull away,
but make money on the way.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
New poll has some interesting news for people like Kamala
Harris and Karen Bass, two similar politicians.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Maybe their arrows are pointed different directions.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh, I think Karen Bass would slap you across the
face hearing that.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Forty California voters have sharply differing views over Kamala Harris
and Karen Bass. Former VP came Kamala Harri excuse me?
Is expected to decide by the end of summer whether
she's going to run where she is universal name recognition,
(07:24):
of course she does. By California voters, fifty percent view
her favorably. This is, according to a new survey by
UC Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies. In contrast, Mayor Karen
Bass not doing so well. She's got that whole fire
thing that's hanging around the fact that she took off,
She got the forecast it was going to be dire,
(07:46):
and took off anyway on a trip and then refuses
to take accountability, the same way the Menendez brothers are
going to find that refusing to take accountability.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Will bite you right in the ass.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
They are not good her approval ratings here in Los Angeles,
and that's saying something.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's I don't like necessarily the placing of the two
names together, only that they're prominent Democrats in California.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They're not up for the same position.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Now the fact that there and I thought this was
going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
A story about all Democrats and the race for governor
in California. When I saw the headline looking good for
Kamala and so much for Karen, I thought, oh, they
must have taken the whole field at play and compared
compared these two because they're I don't know, it looks
(08:35):
really bad for the LA Times and for UC Berkeley
to put these two toe to toe. They're very different.
Just because they're black and female. It looks really bad.
You look like racists, honestly when you put these two,
because there's no reason they should be squaring off, and
they're they're very different careers, they're very different people.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And they're not going after the same position exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's your point that Karen Bass was sworn in by
Kamala Harris when she was elected mayor here in LA
and both of them, perhaps the closest they ever got
to any sort of competition was when both of their
names appeared on the list for potential running mates for
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They've never competed against each other. I don't think they
would compete against each other in the event that it
ever came to that. And there's no plans as far
as I know, for Karen Bass to run for governor.
So it's a silly it's a silly proposition perhaps to
put these two other than just to illustrate being vice
(09:36):
president of the United States. Even though you don't do
a whole lot, you're gonna get a lot of name recognition. Granted,
I mean, Kamala Harris has been in California for years.
She grew up here, so the idea that she has
ninety six percent name recognition should not be surprising. That
the thing is that ninety six percent name recognition gives
(09:58):
her not just a leg up, it gives her multiple
legs up on any competition that she would have in
that race for governor.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It says in this article in the La Times that
Mayor Antonio Vierra gos a hair supporter. By the way
we talked to him at the convention. In fact, he
was there for her, although kind of not given a
major role. It says, you know that California is not
a stepping stone. He said, is stop playing footsie, either
run for governor or not, showing some lack of patience
(10:31):
when it comes to her decision, because he's a realist
and he knows he should stop throwing money into the
wind if she's gonna run, which is true. It's like
if you've spent one dollar running for governor so far
in California, she comes in, she's gonna make you look
like a fool.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's wasted money.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It is because she's gonna run away with it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
If you miss any part of the show, go back
and check out the podcast. Oh I told you my
cousin heard the Weekend Fix. Yeah, the one segment that
shows up on Saturdays that are not that is not
part of our regular show. And he said, right before
the end, he heard you say something. And I said, well,
(11:11):
you should double check that, and he said, she definitely
said it. I re listened to it, and he says,
I like her more.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Now, Oh that's very sweet. I don't remember what was said.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
There was some choice words.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well I thought that was off the air.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
We may but both thought it was okay.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Here all right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Coming up next? Would you like to talk about the homeless? Well,
I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Gavin Newsom is finding his Republican roots.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm thinking about being a homeless. I'm thinking about just
give it a shot. You know what, just like not
coming to work anymore, not doing anything, living off the land,
but like a sidewalk so I'm not really in a
rural place. So if I needed something like I could
make it to a corner store, like a bag of
(12:01):
potato chips or something.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
What but just like you know, disappearing into the skid row.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What color tent would you have? I just want to
keep good question. So I'm thinking I thought about this,
and I'm thinking yellow. And here's why. We went through
about a week and a half of darkness not too
long ago, right, and I feel like, and it's kind
of dark right now. I don't see a lot of sun.
I see a little light poking through, which is nice.
But if my tent is yellow, it can mimic the sun.
(12:31):
I look up in the morning, I see yellow, and
I feel, oh, it's a nice day. If I got
a navy tent, i'd look up and uh, winter is
still here.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So you're gonna get a yellow tent to fight against
your seasonal effectives. Think so you miss any part of
our show, go back and check out the podcast. You
just type in Gary and Shannon anywhere you listen to podcast.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Now, can I come up?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Use one of those you know, those little campfire type
grills I bought, like a charcoal?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Could I use that inside the tent if I have
a thing on the top that has some ventilation, like
a little can.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah, I just don't want people to take my sausages.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Have you heard about the tainted pizza deliveries. We'll be
getting into this coming up in the next hour, but
federal judges say that unsolicited, unsolicited.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I want to know where that was going to go, too.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Fascinating unsolicited pizza deliveries have been turning have been turning
up to their homes, and that it's not just a
nice thing that people are doing.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Let's send the judge of pizza.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, the FBI has gotten involved in calling it a
three will tell you everything you need to know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hey, don't look now, but Gavin Newsom is trying to
wear a Republican costume. Gavin Newsom, with all of his
future ambitions on the line, is testing some rather moderate,
definitely not left leaning policies to try to garner some
(14:24):
sort of moderate credentials as he gears up for what
we assume will be a twenty twenty eight presidential campaign.
In this case, today, Governor Newsom wanted to encourage cities, towns,
counties throughout California to ban tent camps on any sidewalk,
(14:45):
bike path, parkland, public property, etc. And he obviously, as governor,
he can't force the cities or these other municipalities to
do so. But he issued this directive slash, hey guys,
could you do me a favor?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Memo today with a basically a suggestion.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
This is a piece of paper for the cover my
ass when I run for president. File This is so
that he can say I did what I could. I
understand homelessness is a problem in California. Who wouldn't want
to live in California. We have the weather, we have
all the services. It's wonderful what we've been able to do.
A safety net for our less, our more vulnerable Americans.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I tried to clean it up.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There's there's one thing about this that I want to
point out.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It's kind of a sidelight.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Sean Hubler wrote this article for The New York Times,
and I think Sean Hubler is a little bit deep
in the Gavin Newsom juice.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
There's a term in there fifth paragraph I don't want
to ever hear that.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Once a combative champion of liberal policies in a vocal
Trump critic administration critic, mister Newsom has been stress testing
his party's positions.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The reason I point that out I sat through a
couple episodes of that Gavin Newsom podcast. This Gavin Newsom,
and this is whoever else he's talking to. He uses
the term stress test six eight times yeah per.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Hour is latest to meet the moment, right, So the
fact that Sean Hubler used that term in here, he's
adopted his own. He's adopted Newsom's own talking points. Essentially, that's,
by the way, what all of the presidential candidates are
going to do now.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They're all going to have a podcast. Used to have
a listening tour.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A book, a book, different vehicles to run for president,
and now the podcast has been added to that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's this whole thing that this this issuance for this
model ban comes with money. It comes with about three
point three billion dollars in the state controlled housing funds
that local official would be able to use to put
the template in place. That's about half of the bond
that we passed last year, six six point four billion
in bond. There's a couple of fundamental problems with it,
(17:12):
and it's just a I shouldn't say it's just a
California thing, but it is problematic here in the state
of California.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Even in the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Third paragraph of this article, it says California is home
to about half of the nation's homeless population population. We
all know that a lot of that is because of the.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Temperature.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean, the climate here is if you're going to
be homeless, this is not a bad place to be homeless.
You're not going to go through wild swings of ice
storms and hurricanes. Right, It's going to be relatively moderate
temperature just about anywhere you go in the state. But
they also say that it is because of the state's
brutal housing crisis. We've got to stop telling people that
this is a housing crisis issue, that somehow the price
(17:58):
of housing is what's driving people crazy and putting them
on drugs and then telling them that they can live
feral in a park somewhere with no repercussions.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
When we tried to buy our first house, it was
a struggle. Everywhere we wanted to live, you couldn't afford
It wasn't an option to go live on the street.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You weren't going to move into your car.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right, those are yes, there's an affordable housing crisis in California.
It's not the same, it's a different type of crisis anyway.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
All right, Coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Next, we've got cher who is weighed back into the
fray when it comes to the elephant fight in Los
Angeles and there is a squirrel fight in Santa Monica. Oh,
I love the idea of Santa Monica being overrun by squirrels.
Third Street Promenade. Nobody's going there anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Just a squirrels. Just give it back to nature.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Give it back to nature.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The mountain lions now have that bridge, they can trot
on over and populate Santa Monica.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Get rid of the parking people. That's what I really
want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Go away parking. They're awful Santa. Or make the squirrels
the parking people.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Oh man, they'd be so drunk on power.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I'll say it again and again, Shannon Farren, you make
me laugh and smile. Thank you. I love you as
a fan. Not a freak.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Not a freak?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Is that the penis thing? What were we laughing about? Squirrels?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Squirrels have become a problem in Santa Monica at Palisades Park.
Apparently about one hundred ground squirrels have taken over Palisades
Park and they say it's almost like a scene out
of the birds, but with squirrels. That's terrifying. Tippy Hedron
went through hell in that movie. She also cared about
(19:48):
the animals, right, she had a sanctuary.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I was gonna say she had a big cat.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Is that relions?
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Something, But I.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Didn't realize squirrels eat like grazing.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Oh, like a cow.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, sheep or goats or something like that. Little brown
rodents would come out as the sun and the people
come out.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's a lot of squirrels.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
In the moment named Gwendolen Fogel visits a farmer's market.
She said, this is the first time she's seen so
many squirrels in the park. One of them chased us,
which I've never seen squirrels do.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
People are feeding the squirrels and you can't do that.
But the thing is, the squirrels have always been there.
They're pretty well established. I guess now they're just getting
fed more so they're making more babies.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, it's our fault.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's our fault.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
We can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The controversy over elephants at the La Zoo at City
Hall has intensified.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
They where we last left them.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
A Billy and Tina the elephant would be moved to
a zoo in Oklahoma where they would have more room
to roam.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And this has been.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A problem for as long as I have been here,
whether to send them to.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
A bigger zoo, a nicer zoo, or a sanctuary, and
where that should be. It's like people are fighting over
where the elephants at the La Zoo should be taken.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
That's nicer for the elephant.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So is it?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The zoo if they were transferred, would be in the
single digit acres like six or seven acres of an
elephant exhibit a habitat, or a sanctuary, which would be
one hundred acres.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I mean that seems to be sort of the.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Fight here. Share Chaer has signed on to a lawsuit
that was filed in La County Superior Court. I don't
think she's a part of it, but she's at least
attached to declaration. She wrote, Billy and Tina have served
their time in confinement. They deserve the chance to live
out their lives in peace and dignity. I don't mind
the fight. I've all the respect for people who want
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these animals to live out their waning days in comfort.
The two things I have a problem with number one,
that there is an organization that puts out a ten
worst Zoos for Elephants list.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Someone spends time on that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And then the other thing is that the City of La,
the City government of La, has anything to do with
decisions about animals like that.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Great when we talked about.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It last week, and was it bob uh Bob Bloomenfield, Bloomenfield,
why would it?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I would be I would be incensed if my city
council member was the was had any opinions about elephants
and their habitat at the La Zoo. There are five
thousand other things that should be on your list above
Billy and Tina. And again I'm not saying that people
shouldn't fight for them. Yes, I also want to see
(22:46):
elephants live out their days in comfort and to be
cared for God's creatures.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Apparently Bob Bloomenfield has been a long time advocate for
the elephants.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It may have helped them get elected.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Then shame on us. Shame for shame.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right, coming up next swamp watch. Sorry, I'm drinking
hot stuff to make the throat thing go away.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
How's it? How's it going? It's still there.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't want it to get to the point where
it sounds that, you know, like it sounds hard to
listen to.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, it always sounds different to you than it does
to other people in your own head. Yeah sound fine?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, you miss any part of the show, Go back
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Speaker 4 (23:33):
Anywhere you find podcasts. You'll see us right there.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
We have a fun jeopardy question. Okay, yeah, it's about mascots.
Oh really yeah, you love mascots.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Those are fun. You've been listening to the Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
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