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June 9, 2025 30 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – Ketamine is everywhere, Trump calls Musk a Major Drug Addict. Ketamine is everywhere, Trump calls Musk a Major Drug Addict CONT. Shannon went to see the wrong movie “Friendship”. New Study Shows Mothers’ Mental Health Is Declining in the U.S. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is sort of a I guess you would say,
a calm time before anything really starts popping off again. Downtown,
there is a rally that is going on that was
put together by the Service Employees International Union SCIU. They
are there because they are protesting the detention of one
of their union leaders today. A guy named David Wuerta

(00:32):
was arrested Friday and apparently has been charged with federal
crimes already.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Today.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
The US Attorney for the Central District said that David
Wuerta was preventing federal vehicles from entering a federal property
on Friday and that's got into a shoving match with
agents there and that's why he was taken into custody.
They said that SEIU specifically is also taking part in

(00:58):
rallies in Atlanta, New York City, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, and DC.
They said more than a dozen cities in total are
expected to see some of these union created protests that.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Are going to be taking place throughout the course of
the day and the Dolores.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I was referring to Dolores Werta is expected to be
at the gathering today at noon, ninety five years old.
I believe, I know she was in, but she always
brings out a crowd, obviously for her background and the
legit protesting and work that she has done for the laboring.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And it's about time for swamp watch.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's get into the whole ketamine thing, which I didn't
expect we would ever say, but here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Go go ahead, elm, shut up, don't worry, which means
I'm a cheat and aliah. And when I'm not kissing babies,
I'm stealing their LOLLIPOPX. Here we got. The real problem
is that our leaders are done. The other side never quits.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
So what I'm not going anywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
So that now you.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Train the swat, I can imagine what can be and
be on burdened by what has been. You know, Americans
have always been going act president, but they're not stupid.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Why have the people voted for you were not watch?
You're all canaoid?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
So ketamine is I don't think a secret Elon Musk's
favorite drug, and it seems to be everywhere. You hear
about it all the time, very zeitgeist right now. And
this may be according to some people, and you know,
one of the main reasons why there was a falling
out with Trump and Musk, or why Elon Musk would
never have the president's full respect, because the President doesn't

(02:34):
like people who I think, in his estimation, he would
think are weak enough to succumb to drug alcohol use abuse.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's very he's been very adamant about that for a
long time. Right, So there is that.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But The New York Times reported recently that Elon Musk
was taking so much ketamine during last year's presidential campaign
that he told people it was causing him bladder problems,
which is apparently a symptom of chronic ketamine use. This
was a drug first synthesized in the sixties, has been

(03:08):
long use for surgery, veterinary medicine included in that. Most
recently it's been talked about alleviating symptoms of depression, especially
in what they call treatment resistant populations. Clinics administer the
drug and those are becoming more popular. These clinics and

(03:28):
then the FDA approved the first ketamine drive nasal spray
for depression about five years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So who the this?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
For some reason, it brings to mind fentanyl because fentinals
are used in are fentinyls. Fentanyl is used in hospitals
all the time, but it's used under such absolute.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Very strict controls.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's when you start doing it a recationally, when you
do it outside of a doctor's orders, that's when it's
going to become deadly and potentially dating, potentially dangerous and
oftentimes deadly.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
There was a and don't I don't want to lose
you when I say this, But a person that is
in the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives show, and he
is it's an open not secret that he was addicted
to fentanyl. And this week he did an interview where
he says that he and his friends that liked fentanyl

(04:28):
would buy fentanyl patches off cancer patients, that cancer patients
would sell these things to casual drug users on the
apps or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
To make money.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's what it's prescribed for people that have terminal cancer
or right are in the hospital had real problems with pain.
It's an alternative pain management tool as well if you
can't handle other ones. But ketamine. They say.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
It is you.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was recreationally outside of medical supervision obviously, but that
if you use it chronically, it can really do a
number on your body, just like really anything else, but
that serious and physical mental and physical health consequences, kidney
and liver damage, memory loss, paranoia, all of that. There
was a physician in psychiatry at University of California, San Diego,

(05:24):
doctor Kevin Yang And says there is absolutely a role
for ketamine to help people with depression and suicidal ideation.
At the same time, it doesn't mean it's going to
be safe for everyone. He co authored a story earlier
this year, study Excuse Me. And in the study, it
says that the percentage of Americans who reported ketamine use

(05:46):
within the past year grew from eighty two percent over
the five years previously eighty two percent. This increases were
similar for both people with depression and people without. They
say that this growth is driven both by more people
seeking ketamine for clinical purposes and people using it recreationally.

(06:10):
And I mean, is the stigmas removed from depression, people
are going to seek out treatments for it more, which
is why you're seeing Yeah, and this is why you're
seeing these ketamine clinics pop up as well.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
How do you take it? What is it? What do
you do with it?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is it a pill?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Hot rails? Is it a hot rail? Do you heat it?
Is there tinfoil? Is there? I think it's it's a pill.
You can snort it? What is it? Sort? Pretty much? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
But like how much of it do you snort? As
it like a line of cocaine or yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Pretty much? Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
And then and then.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
What does it do? Like is it just mellow you out?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
How does it help depression?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Do you know? Yeah, it kind of just numbs you out.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I wouldn't know, but you know, just take a very
high lethargic Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, so like like the similar effects of.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Weed, Yeah, but like times ten really yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
In the in the couch is actually well that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Really, it's like a couch cushion to the max. Oh Man.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
That was the thing I hated the most about weed.
I hated being a couch cushion and feeling like I
I was the couch.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Some people use it to like trip, you know, kind
of like depending on the dosage, like a hallucinogenic exactly. Yeah,
there's a something that used hallucinogenic purpose.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So if you're taking small doses of it, it just
mellows you out. You take more, it makes you feel
like the couch cushion. You take more than that, you
start seeing things and it's a trip. Yeah, okay, got it.
But okay, so it's like I mean anything in moderation, right,
you have a glass of wine, it mellows you out. Right,

(08:01):
you have a bottle, you start dancing, you have four bottles.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know, you end up seeing things when we come back.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I didn't get to this as I wanted to get
to this story because I think it is an interesting
look at We've said this before.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
A potential third party.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
There's money, there's attitude, there's brains behind some of a
potential third party that's coming up. And weird strange bedfellows.
Maybe we'll talk about those two that are what.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's just funny because I said strange bedfellows last week
and it felt weird. It's stuck in my head and
then it's stuck in your head and it's back.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Welcome to nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Forty California has officially sued Trump the Trump administration over
the deployment of National Guard troops to Los Angeles. Newsom
threatened that state would be suing the administration yesterday, and
here it is lawsuit arguing that Trump overstepped his authority
when he called up the National Guard in defiance of Newsom,

(09:12):
invoking a law that the president can do so under
the threat from a foreign invasion or rebellion against the
US government, Bonta saying, Attorney General Rob Bonta saying, in
a statement, Let's be clear, there is no invasion, there
is no rebellion. The president is trying to manufacture chaos
and crisis on the ground for his own political ends.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
There are some protests that are apparently taking place in
New York today. In fact, just a short time ago,
there was a live shot outside the Trump Tower there
in New York and there were people that were being arrested.
It didn't look like I mean, people were just standing around,
didn't look very active at all, but they could be
arrested for trespassing.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that's just one of the areas.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
There have been rallies that have been planned by the
service employees international Union in New York City, obviously here
in LA that's taking place, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, and DC.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Mayor Bass just said on Twitter X that she met
with local immigrant rights groups and that she is reaffirming
her opposition to the types of raids.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
That have occurred over the past few days.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
She said, I just met with LA immigrants rights community leaders.
As we respond to this chaotic escalation by the administration,
let me be absolutely clear, as the United City, we
are demanding to end these lawless attacks on our communities.
Los Angeles will always stand with everyone who calls our
city home. The administration seems to be a term that

(10:40):
is gaining momentum. The administration. It's like the Alliance or
the Resistance. It's very Star Wars esque. Not that I've
seen Star Wars, but it feels like we're making this
into some sort of Galactica battle.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's in us versus them, and it's to continue it.
That's how you get too.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
On yourself juvenile. To me, it's just it's so oh
fantasy oriented, because on the.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
One hand, if.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know, Tom Holman reached out to Gavin Newsom
or Gavin Newsom reached out to President Trump or something
like that that lose you lose credibility with your base,
although that's the best way to move forward.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Gavin Newsom says he did talk to Tom Holman I
think on Friday night is what he said, but he
hasn't spoken to President Well.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I can't wait to hear Tom Holman on John Cobelt's
show this afternoon. It's happening right at one o'clock, right
as we leave you. That's going to be a great
interview because it does bring up I think we've had
we've had protests over immigration in Los Angeles for a
very long time, but we haven't had the legal question

(11:49):
of a president overstepping a governor, or not overstepping, but
bypassing a governor and activating the National Guard, not for
a long time. Brings up a lot oh yeah, in
my memory. So it brings up a lot of questions
there in terms of what jurisdiction does everybody have and
in a city where ice is not recognized, essentially the

(12:12):
lapd Hamstrung can't do anything about ice.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
What is everyone's jurisdiction?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right, So it'll be a fascinating conversation at one o'clock
right here.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
We were talking about Elon Musk and his breakup, if
you want to call it that with President Trump. And
one of the things that Elon Musk said on Twitter
during the kind of back and forth late last week
was isn't it about time that Americans or that we
have a third political party that would represent the eighty
percent in the middle. And it was a poll that

(12:46):
Elon Musk put on his Twitter with the millions and
millions of people who follow him, and it was pretty significant.
I think the numbers kind of finally settled in somewhere
around seventy eight percent said yes versus twenty eight to yeah,
sorry math twenty two percent who said no. That got
the attention of Andrew Yang. Remember Andrew Yang. This guy

(13:08):
ran for president in twenty twenty. Didn't make it, obviously,
but he not long after losing in the Democratic primary,
dropped the Democratic Party and wanted to use the notoriety
that he had attained while running for president to push
for an independent party, and he actually named his the

(13:30):
Forward Party.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Andrew Yang said that as soon as he saw that
poll on Elon Musk's Twitter account, he reached out to
Elon Musk that Elon Musk hasn't called him back yet.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
He's a little busy right now, probably.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But Andrew Yang has said that the American public is
ready for a change, particularly if he can get some
of that Elon Musk cabbage in his bank account. Elon
has built This is his comment from Andrew Yank. Elon
has built world class companies from nothing more than an

(14:05):
idea multiple times, and in this instance, you have the
vast majority of Americans who are hungry for a new approach.
He says, I'm happy to spell it out for Elon
or anyone else who wants to head down this road.
A third party can succeed very quickly. It's interesting because
he was asked by Politico, is that the guy you

(14:26):
want to team up with? I mean, Elon Musk brings
with him a certain amount of baggage. Some of it
is pretty negative in social circles, but the upside is
the billions and billions of dollars that he's got at
his disposal. And Andrew Yank's that I want to work
with anyone who recognizes that America's political system has gone

(14:48):
from dysfunctional to polarizing to even worse and At this point,
the fastest growing in political movement in the United States
is independence. They feel like neither party represents them and
that the two party system is not delivering what they
want to say. So if you get him, you get
Andrew Yang, who's a smart thought.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Andrey Yang, Pete boot Edge Edge, who I don't think
is going to be able to it, maybe rise to
the level of the head of the Democratic Party. They've
got to figure out. Everyone's got to figure out who
the young blood is going to be. Yeah, it's and

(15:26):
I don't think that nowhere is shady vance for the
Republicans either. The more that we learn about JD. Vance,
I feel like the dew flies off the lily in
terms of strength, gravitas, knowledge, knowing how to get things
done in Washington, all of that.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I mean, I don't know well.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
And remember the old truth that we have now figured
out about politics is the people that we want in power,
they don't want to be in power, right, or the
I should say, the ones that we want in power
they don't want to deal with the politics, right.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Probably better Wait, all.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Right, Gary and Shannon will continue. Don't worry. We still
have ed the Zebra News to get to. I know
everyone was worried about that the Zebra ed the Zebra.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I didn't know we had a name. What I mean,
I've seen the zebra.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
What are you talking about? You didn't know we had
He's a famous zebra. I know him as Ed before,
I know him as the Zebra.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, And then when you found out he was a zebra,
it made a lot more sense. I was like, oh, oh, okay,
it's the helicopter.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Got it.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
And that's still happening, right, You guys didn't break up
or anything, right, She didn't leave you over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, not yet. Oh I'm sensing maybe there was an issue. No, no,
it's everything's great.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It was it was the dinner fight, wasn't It was
the dinner fight? It was what do you want to
do for dinner? I don't know what do you want
to do? I don't know what do you want to do?
What do you want to do? It was your first
one of that.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
No, No, we haven't had that yet.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh I can't wait for that time. That's a fun
chapter going to happen. So on Friday, and Elmer was
saying that they were going to go see the Stephen
King adaptation A Life of Chuck, which Stephen King has
given his blessing. The critics say it's the best Stephen
King movie ever, life affirming this day is It's a
wonderful life. And so I'm all in and I'm in

(17:17):
Orange County and so I look it up on Saturday.
I'm like, I'm totally going to go see this movie.
I'm super excited. And there was no early screening because
it doesn't come out for everywhere until this weekend, this
upcoming weekend, and there was a bunch of screenings in
LA but I was down there and I don't want
to drive up, and I'm like, oh man. And then
I had already had my heart set on going to

(17:38):
see a movie, so I said, well, what else is
showing self? And I look through you know whatever fandango
and I see this movie and I'm like, oh, I
think I remember us talking about that. It's about that
road trip to Sacramento, and oh that sounded like a
fun movie. And I'll get all the inside jokes because
I lived in Sacramento and the whole thing. And about
seven or eight minutes into the movie, I realized it

(17:59):
was a movie we had also talked about.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
It was not about the Sacramento road trip.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
No, it was the dark comedy with Paul Rudd about
the dude friends that dude, very different experience than I
was looking for. Like I like, my my intention was
to go watch this life affirming movie right with the
Stephen King movie, and then that got sidetracked and I

(18:25):
was like, oh, well, there's this feel good movie I
remember talking about about this road trip with friends to Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
That sounds like fun. Yeah, I'll watch that.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I picked the wrong movie, like I did an
old person thing where I went to the.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Wrong movie and it was not life affirming.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
It was dark, it was depressing as s and I
was just thankful it was only an.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Did you like it? It was different, I'll give it that.
Did you see it?

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
What'd you think? It's hysterical? It was very darkly funny Elmer,
do you think it was? It would have been different
if she was a dude.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Uh No, it would be different if she were partaking
in cannabis.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I feel I knew it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I should have taken some weed in the middle of
that day.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I should have taken weed.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Now, listen, jeepers.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You just doubled down on my stupid thing with jeepers
make weed.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I'm curious. How was the audience, uh interraction?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Funny you mentioned that because they're all high. I laughed
periodically at things no one else laughed at because I
have a great sense of humor. There was a woman
who laughed the entire time, like a like at moments
that we're not just like you had to kind of

(19:44):
get that the humor they were going for just I
think she thought she should laugh anyway. It was kind
of distracting. And then there are people that made no
noise the entire time, and I think missed the whole
point of the movie, like miss the whole the whole
lane that it was driving in. But I mean, it
was very different. I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was. It was a good, like short story movie.
I guess I should say.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, it kind of follows as humor and basically it's
show on Netflix is a series of those moments happening
with this really awkward kind.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Of take on.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, yeah, then that checks out, Yeah exactly, that's exactly
what it felt like, but it was. I thought the
length was perfect, Like any longer or shorter it would
have been weird. It was. It was very different in
a world where every movie you feel like you've seen
before or they're redoing.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
It was something.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Fresh that reminds me of the story that we still
have not figured out about my parents, and now that
they're gone, I'll never be able to Get Hard.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, this is my face.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I've watched Get Hard so many times because of this story.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I don't know if you've heard this story yet before, Elmer,
but it makes the movie so much better after you
hear the story.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
My parents were not huge moviegoers, especially as they got
later in life, and they lived in an area where
they were and a lot of movie theaters around him
up in central California, they got to travel quite a bit,
you know, half hour car ride just to go to
a movie theater.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
And when I was.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Talking to my mom one time on the phone, she
had said that they went to go see a fun
a funny movie that had a lot of bad words
in it, and I was very unlike her to want
to go see a movie like that. So it turns
out that she was going to see or they went
and saw the movie Get Hard.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
So Kevin Hard Will Ferrell movie, and it's all about
Will Ferrell. He's got to do white collar crime and
he knows one black person and thinks that Kevin Hart
like knows how to handle himself on the inside. Kevin
Hart needs the money, so he plays along that he
is like a black guy who's like done time. It's hilarious.
But the thing with that movie is it is dirty,

(21:53):
like some of the lines in there. I mean, it's great,
but to picture your parents, who are some of the
most buttoned up, uh.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
They don't stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
They wouldn't find that funny, like my parents would find
that funny, probably the much dirtier people. But your parents
are all like pure good hearted, you know, as salt
of the earth people. And what then seeing that thinking
of them watching Get Hard is crazy. And then when
you watch it after having that knowledge, it's like.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
You did take it's still cringing.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I was peeing my pants thinking about your parents watching
that movie in just the first ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But here's the key.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
When I said, what did you think, Mom was like, well,
I don't know, it was it was okay, It's just
that's not my kind of humor.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
And I thought, well, then why did you go see
the movie?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
What about Get Hard?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Made your parents go, oh, that looks good. It was
the title of the movie. Yeah, I threw the phone
down and stomped on it. I would have died.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I would have died right there, my mother said. And
if she said, well I saw the title, I wanted
to see it. Yeah, Get Hard, I was dying on
the inside.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Holy hell, Holy hell. Basically just talk about shoving stuff up.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
But it's a lot of asset stuff. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I love.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I mean, when you see it again though, with the
knowledge Gary's parents saw it like in their late seventies,
it is even better.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
I just saw a clip yesterday about him doing the
financial stuff like the thugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you
bring it up today, it's like so synchronistic.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, we're all connected.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
It's it's the whole thing that goes back to you
and Gary feeling each other right before you go to
sleep at night.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, yeah, don't ever say it like that again, Elmer, Please,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's gonna haunt me tonight at ten forty five. I'm
always there.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Also a side note, please stop telling us how to
do Kettmie.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
We have gotten way too many you happened. I got
three messages. You can't snort it. Nobody snorts it. There
are not to inject it. And there are some people
who are clearly versed. Yeah, well good.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I wanted to know more. I really did, because I've
never done ketamine yet.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, the day is yeh, you never know. Gary and
Shannon will continue.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
A demonstration taking place in just a few minutes. A
lot of people have already started to gather between the
County Building and the Superior Court building. They're at Grand Park,
Gloria Molina Grand Park.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
The ACLU has put this protest together.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
They're calling for the release of David Huerta, one of
the union leaders who was arrested Friday during a protest
at the Federal Detention Center a few blocks away. He
got in the way of federal transport vans and then
got into a shoving match with agents who are trying
to keep him out of the way.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
He has been charged federally. They're calling for his release.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
There are other rallies that are taking place in other
cities as well, all of them organized by the Service
Employees International Union. By the way, the Chinese Consulate has
told Chinese citizens in LA to strengthen personal security in
the wake of these three days of protests that we've seen.

(25:24):
The statement from the Chinese consulate says citizens in the
region should strengthen personal security measures, stay away from gatherings,
crowded areas or places with poor public security, and avoid
going out at night or traveling alone. I did mention
that San Francisco is one of those cities that's expected
to have more demonstrations today. San Francisco police said that
they arrested about sixty people last night during a protest

(25:48):
at the Financial District there in San Francisco. Well, moms
have it tough, and there is new scientific data that
suggests that moms are increasingly struggling with physical and mental health.
I am not a mom, nor am I a woman,

(26:12):
so I say this with a bit of caution. I
think it's more common for everyone, not just women, but
for everyone to acknowledge that they're having struggles with their
mental health.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I agree. I think if you were to do a
study across the board, you would find an uptick in
depression or anxiety or any of the things that we're
all now willing to admit. Go on, I think you'd
find that in every different genre, or age group, or
occupation or parenting role, all of the above.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
They specifically looked at mothers from twenty sixteen to twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Right now. Yeah, it's been a long time. Yeah, been
along couple of days.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I know.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I just meant like, physically otherwise, I feel fine.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, I had a long day, active day yesterday, but
I feel fine.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I don't feel old and rickety.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Does your aura ring tell you you may be pregnant?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Actually, I exceeded my orror ring physical requirements by almost
three times yesterday.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Oh you did? I did? What did you do yesterday?
I played some Beer League softball a couple of games.
And do you make any good?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Place?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I did? I think? Tell me? Do you really care? Yeah?
I don't, Yes, I do. I went five for seven
with a couple of doubles. That's great in two games.
That's really good. And I didn't make any errors in
the field. That's good. Where did you play? I played
it second?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes, Okay, I had a plenty of opportunities.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I loved second. Why, oh the pressure's off. You're not
getting that off. You're not getting the constant activity at first.
There's not that pressure cooker situation at short. Third, you're
not getting them fast like that. Second's the good place
to play in the infield for me, because I'm awful,
So second is where I like to land if.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm going to play in the infield.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Okay, I'll remember that when we're putting together our company team.
Oh yeah, I'm either second or right field. Don't dismiss.
Don't dismiss right field. You gotta have a strong arm
out there right like I out a third, but I
don't need all the action that they get in left
and center. These women were asked from twenty sixteen to
twenty twenty three their mental and physical health on a
scale of excellent to poor, and they noted a distinct

(28:31):
decline from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three in those numbers.
And I think, like I said, it has a lot
to do with an acknowledgment that it's okay to come
out and say something like this is really hard. That
maybe twenty years ago there was an expectation that moms
were superheroes and they were brick walls and nothing shakes them.

(28:54):
And for in many cases that's one hundred thousand percent true. Right,
But that doesn't mean that it's not difficult. It doesn't
mean that that's not a struggle. It just means that
they do it regardless of, you know, not feeling top
of their game.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I never bought into that whole mothers can just do
it at all and their superheroes. Yes, And holy hell,
that's so much work and stress. And your entire life
is about others and the sacrifice and the just the
body sacrifice alone right out of the gate, the oh.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I see what you're saying. I see.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
And then you're married to someone who doesn't realize the
body sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
This was mother's. It wasn't necessarily married women. That's important.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, no, no, I'm not the stress that you add on.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I knew when I had to use the disclaimer at
the beginning where I'm like, oh, never a mom and
I'm not a woman.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
This is why you stopped right there, This is why
you went to bed with the baseball. You should stick
to what makes you happy, where you're safe and you're
not ever in trouble and that's baseball. We'll talk trending
when we come back to Gary and Shannon.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
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