June 11, 2025 • 25 mins
Tensions erupt at L.A. City Hall — council members clash with the police chief over the city’s response to immigration protests. Michael Monks is on the ground with the latest. Governor Gavin Newsom isn’t just watching from the sidelines — he’s stepping into the chaos, using the unrest to carve out his role as the face of the opposition. Is this the start of a national push? And why is Home Depot suddenly being called ‘ground zero’? We break down what’s happening behind the orange aprons — and why it matters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Latest on the protest.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We do expect yet another update from Karen Bass at
some point this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I believe eleven o'clock is the is.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The information I saw if I don't know what she
has to say much today, because last night was relatively
quiet in terms of rioting. The curfew went into effect
at eight o'clock. There were several arrests last night, but
nowhere near the amount of damage, violence, graffiti, looting that
we had seen in a couple of previous nights.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Michael Monks joins us he's been on top of the
protesters protests, I should say, ever since they erupted over
the weekend. And now we've got an Alla City council
ad that has been put on unpaid leave following an
arrest at one of these protests. And the story goes
a little deeper than that. Michael, am I now sorry,
(00:57):
I apologize, no worries. Yeah, this isn't a radio, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, this is Isabel Herado City council woman, newly elected
at the end of last year, so she's serving very
early in her first term. She unseated longtime politician Kevin
daleon and you may recall during that campaign that towards
the end she got caught up in sort of a
mini controversy because she was recorded in front of a
group of college students at calcet Ola saying f the police.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So that's just to set the scene for who we're
talking about here. And so a staffer for Isabelle Herado
Lose Aguilar, she has been placed on unpaid leave because
she's been arrested suspicion of assaulting a police officer with
a deadly weapon. Where when, Oh, on Sunday at the
anti ice protest demonstrations in downtown Los Angeles. But that's
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not Lose Aguilar's only connection to local politics. Her dad
is Rick Cole, who is a sitting member of the
Pasadena City Council and is all also a high ranking
figure in the office of La City Controller.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Kenneth Maheah. Okay, Can she simply be fired? Why? Why? Why?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Why administrative leave and not simply fire her attraction council
woman Isabelle Herado herself. Okay, because this is uh it's
going to make me mad.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my staff member.
They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold my staff
to the highest standards.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Just to point out, this is from last night's news
conference with the.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Or just real quick, what's happened to my staff member?
Like this was something that happened to the staff.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
That is, Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my
staff member. They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold
my staff to the highest standards. Well, I will. I
wait to see due process and so we'll see the
outcome of that. But I see that as separate and
apart from a reaction to what our constituents want in
this city and how this type of opportunism has escalated
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between yesterday and the day before. And you know, frankly,
I admit my humility here in my beginnerness and that
I'm new to downtown. But our downtown stakeholders have seen
this multiple times over and had to basically develop their
own strategies, and they saw the warning signs of how
this could get worse.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So she was alongside Mayor Bass during the press conference
because all of this stuff has been happening in downtown
Los Angeles. She happens to represent downtown. You heard her
reference I'm new to downtown. That's because downtown is But
we keep hearing the word sliver. This is a sliver
of her district, which is mostly Northeast LA suburbs like
Boyle Heights and then Downtown is kind of thrown in
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with all those and is usually a famous afterthought of
whoever's representing that district.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Okay, do you feel that I thought a little earthquake
was a truck?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Also, side note you mentioned or you heard in the
council woman's line there they This does appear to be
a they them person council member who was arrested with
her twins, their twin.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Sister, so it's two sisters.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Lose Aguilar is the one who works in the office,
but also her sister, twenty six year old obviously Antonia
Aguilar Them. Okay, my apologies if I've missed jets. Okay,
it's it's your beginnerness. It's showing it's my beginnerness. So
I'm asking for some races. Yeah, she's a new council member,
and she is a little. Her public speaking is a
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little clunky. She's and that's all I can say about that.
But you know, obviously this is somebody who set a
tone on the campaign trail about her feelings about policing.
She is from the same school of local politics as
Unisses Hernandez, Hugo Soto Martinez, who also serve on the
city Council and have strong sentiments about LAPD funding, LAPD behavior.
(04:58):
In fact, before for the mayor's press conference yesterday, the
chief of police was hauled into the city council chamber.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Answer question.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We'll do that next segment, because that was also you'd
want to talk about putting a guy like Jim McDonell
in the absolute worst possible position and making an answer
questions that are almost impossible for the chief of local
police department to answer.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We'll do that well.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
After they've totally fed him when it comes to the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Budget, right right, Gary Channon will continue. Michael Monks has
joined us.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
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AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Judge not granting Governor Newsom's request for an immediate block
of the deployment of troops to California but what is
the schedule, the timeline, what's the next steps for that
lawsuit against the president by the governor.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Marines are joining the National Guard soldiers today. It's the
first day the Marines will be on the streets. Approximately
seventeen hundred members of the National guards seventy ninth Infantry
Brigade Combat Team are in LA Team as part of
the National Guard's twenty one hundred member Task Force fifty
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one on titled ten status in California. So they will,
like you mentioned, be there to assist in guarding federal properties.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
You know, it's a very.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's a very different conversation when it comes to Marines
in the National Guard just there to guard federal properties
as opposed to manning the streets.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and it's important that an.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Important distinction that could change at a moment's notice, couldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It if the President decides to invoke the Insurrection Act.
And as we talked with Jessica Levinson yesterday from Loyola,
she was explaining, the courts have given a lot of
leeway to presidents to make decisions like that, So we
don't know which way his wind is blowing right now,
if in fact he wants to do that. Michael Monks
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has joined us, who's been covering a lot of different
aspects of the stories this story over the last several days,
and one of the new aspects of it is that
the City Council in Los Angeles is now upset with
the LAPD chief for.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
What well, you know this LAPD.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They can't get a break right now because there's criticism
coming from all angles. You're not doing enough, you're doing
too much. All at the same time, I think the
majority sentiment among the city councils that perhaps LAPD was
doing too much, and there were also some accusations made
about whether they're colluding with some of the federal agencies
that have come in this. They hauled in Chief Jim
McDonald to the City council meeting yesterday. This was a
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late agenda item that they always meet on Tuesdays, but
this is obviously the first Tuesday to come along since
everything broke loose on Friday. In fact, we got word
of the raid during the city council meeting last Friday,
the one taking place in the Garment district. So this
is their first meeting since all of it, So they're
chomping at the bit to ask some questions and they did,
and council members like the one we referenced Isabelle Herado Unice,
(07:59):
He's hernad As Hugosda Martinez.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They have a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Concerns about the behavior of LAPD officers against the protesters.
That seem to be where their concerns are. I've got
some sound from Hugo Soda Martinez and his line of questioning.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
We have to be mindful of the tactics that are
being used by some LAPD members that is adding to
the escalation because that is taking away from the goal
of keeping families together. Now, just like a few protesters
can take away from the messaging, the same thing can
be said by LAPD. It overshadows the response. So I
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just want people to remember that in this moment, everybody
as a city has to live by our values and
keep our eyes on the prize. We are fighting a
white nationalist president that will like nothing better than to
come into our city and deport our people.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And wipen it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is that what he's going to suggest next is that
what he thinks that this really is is that he's
that the president is trying to whiten Southern California that.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That statement is not far off from typical characterizations of
the Trump administration from these folks. This is kind of
what they said leading up to the adoption of a
sanctuary city policy and in the weeks since with all
of the chaos that has ensued. The chief of police
was also grilled by city councilhen Emelda Padilla, who asked
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whether the LAPD could maybe alert city officials if federal
law enforcement agencies were coming into town to do something,
and the chief got kind of snippy with her and
he said, you know, you're asking me to warn you
about an enforcement action being taken by another agency before
it happens.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We can't do that. No, it's illegal, an obstruction of justice.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
But also Council President Marquise Harris Dawson is doesn't like
referring to ICE as an other federal agencies as enforcement partner.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
McDonald the restraint that he must have to sit before
these boobs who have been around for five minutes and
think they know what his job is better than what
he then he knows after being in Los Angeles for
as long as he has, the patience and the restraint
is freaking incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
There's a point that has to be made as well
about the city council, and even the mayor has kind
of alluded to this that they don't know when these
raids are coming.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The bottom line is, we don't know, and that is
consistent with ice raids. Of course, we never know when,
we never know how long.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Okay, that's consistent with all law enforcement who happen to
have a very specific tactic of catching people off guard when.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They're engaged in criminal behavior.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They don't call people and say, hey, Josh, just so
you know, you're wanted on a murder warrant out of Pacoima,
can we come like just hang out at like four
forty five maybe five o'clock if you're not busy. We'd
love to be able to come in and put handcuffs
on you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's not the way law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Has ever worked, So why why is.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
There a surprise They just don't know? The federal government
would would send up a telegram to someone and suggest.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh, we're going to be at this place at this.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Time so that you can send five hundred people to
get in our way. Hey, we'll keep in mind put
themselves at risk too, And that's that's valid and keep
in mind though, that the chief is also getting it
from the federal government, like the Department of Homeland Security
is not happy with the Los Angeles Police Department either,
for not showing up at a time that they thought
was adequate to support the federal agencies who were on
the ground executing these warrants. That was Friday, right, that
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that was that was related to Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
But look, well there's also the ari.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I mean, you can why it's the National Guard here?
Why are the Marines here? I mean, that's a direct
and that's a direct comment.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh, there's a couple of things. And you know, there
was the comment about overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He said, he did.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Say that, and I think what his purpose of saying
that was was you can't cut from the LAPD which
is actively happening at city Hall if you want us
to respond to things this large is what the basis
of that comment was. But it can be construed as
calling for help from the federal government now that the
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federal government has stepped in.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And that I think is one of the shortcomings that
we've seen in the last couple of days is no
one has asked the chief.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't know how available he has been.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We're not the reporters that are there in those news conferences,
but somebody needs to ask him to revisit that comment
because there are a lot of people are using that for
him explaining, like you said, I mean, he could be
taken a couple of different ways. What did he mean
by that? Was it just the context of Friday night
we were overwhelmed, or Saturday night we were overwhelmed, we
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didn't have enough flex cuffs for people, or is it
legitimately we do not have enough men and women to
put on the streets to keep this thing under control.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's a reflex when you're the head of an agency
like this to say we need more all the time.
It's one of their jobs, whether you're the fire chief,
police chief, what have you, to make sure funding is
not cut, make sure in fact that it is added
to under your watch. That's one of the hallmarks of
a strong chief is to make sure your funding is
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not cut and in fact, if you can bolster it
even better. His funding has been cut, the LAPD's funding
has been cut, so his number one goal is to
stop that from happening. And when you're requiring the LAPED
to show out and force like that on Friday night
and they are reduced.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
They're at a reduced workforce.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're going to say things like that, and when this
thing exploded, he didn't see it. This exploding Friday night
into Saturday to a national story. And then all of
a sudden, that underwhelmed comment gets parlayed into oh, this
is why Trump was able to send in all of
his henchmen or whatever the form of the National Guard
in the Marines. And so, yeah, I think you're right.
(14:03):
I think that. I don't know why he hasn't been
pressed on that. I guess it doesn't mean as much
as it means.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
To he doesn't want to get Kristian crowleyed, I don't know,
you know, speaking against the mayor like the fire chief did, and.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh I already forgotten. Nay, quickly, we move on really quickly.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I know you guys have to take a break, but
I just want to say it's clear the LAPD's tactics
have amplified and they've gotten the message that we need
to do more. I'm anxious to see how today goes,
if anything breaks out in the afternoon before the curfew,
to see if that continues and two. The LAPD did
lose out in this budget. They saw their recruitment opportunities
caught in half. But for the past several years they
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were fully funded to bring more officers in and they
have confessed themselves that they have been unable to fill
their ranks for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Curfews starts today. Yes, all right, thank you, Michael, appreciate it.
Stay out of downtown. Thanks.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
Ambition is odd. I really love ambition. I admire it
when someone has ambition, but sometimes it can go too far.
But it's always fun to talk about, isn't it. Gavin
Newsom is the subject of an article in The Wall
Street Journal about him leaning into this LA unrest to
position himself as the head of the monster that is
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the opposition to Trump and what the administration represents, and
he has seen I mean, it's an important moment, I
said earlier.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I think this is make or break for Newsom.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If he wants to insinuate himself as the leader of
the resistance, then he's gonna have to show the math.
He's gonna have to really be hard hitting and establish
himself not as a pretty boy left California I like
wine tasting and a six hundred dollars meal guy, but
somebody who's palatable to the Democrats and the rest of
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the country. If you're going to go after Trump, you've
got to go to Trump's arena and beat him there.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
And I just don't know if Newsom has it in him.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
There's an interesting you mentioned, what was your article from
Wall Street. There's another one in Politico as well today
that uses the same the same kind of backbone that
the idea that Gavin Newsom has re appeared on the
national stage in terms of being the main face of
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opposition against Donald Trump. But they actually credit Trump with
catapulting Newsom to that.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So that was going to be my next thought, and
I'm glad that they got to it, because my thought
reading the Wall Street Journal article is this is only
because Trump has enabled Newsom to rise to this level,
And you've got to ask yourself why, And if Trump
wants his legacy to endure past his administration and he's
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crowning Newsom as the king of resistance, Trump's got to
believe that Newsom is just that an empty pillowcase well, no,
they're there because, hey, if you want this guy to
take on me and my buddy's over here, whether it
be jd Vance or what whoever's waiting in the wings,
the Trump family would have you go for it, right
(17:18):
because we know we can demolish him. I mean, you
do have to ask yourself that question. It is Newsome
becoming a topic nationally because Trump's enabling him because he
knows he can beat him.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And what is the actual character of Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What? And I don't mean that question.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I don't mean you know, who is he as a person,
although we've asked that question many times. I mean as
a political character outside of California? Do people see him
as the legitimate standard bearer for the Democratic Party fighting
for immigrants in this country? Does he see him as
a strict politician who is leveraging his position, his money,
(18:01):
his uh face, his notoriety in his face, his hair
into position where that will help, you know, make help
the leap to the next step.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Does he have the balls that matter in places like
Ohio or Pennsylvania. Does he have the friendships in the
power circles to get things done? Does he have the
money outside of California. Three big questions and right now
you're not getting a lot of yeses.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
And maybe after this he meets this.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Moment, maybe more people will jump on the slow speed
Gavin train with stops in places like Madera. But until then,
until those questions are answered, you're just gonna have this
like weak stream guide leading your resistance.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Remember a year ago, there were discussions about whether Gavin
Newsom was going to jump into the to the Democratic
primaries right year ago, year and a half ago before
they started, and he repeatedly said, listen, I don't I'm
not planning on it, or whatever whatever the term he
was using at the time, but he was begging in
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the back rooms, please push me into the limelight, force
my hand, and I can be the reluctant hero that
comes in and saves the Democratic Party from a faltering
candidate in what was Joe Biden at the time. It
almost feels like he got lucky again with this, that
Donald Trump is going after Gavin Newsom in this instance
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and he is relishing the accidental hero. Listen, I don't
want to have to be in this position. But if
I'm going to stand up for the four year old.
What if I'm going to stand up for the families
that are being torn apart, then I will. I will
wear that mantle proudly, although I didn't ask for it. Please,
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this is this is his this is his conference championship.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
In every industry, or he gets to the super Bowl
in every occupation, sports or otherwise. There's a time when
people are exposed. Yeah, and Kamala Harris. Unfortunately we all
saw that in real time. Trump has brought this fight
to Gavin Newsom. Gavin's been blustering about it four months,
if not years. All Right, well, now it's game time.
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What the hell are you going to do? How are
you going to fight?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
This?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Is he the most powerful governor in the country, democratic governor?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is he the most powerful?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I obviously it's because we have a huge economy,
we have a huge state, we have huge population. You
can make the argument he is the most powerful democratic
governor in the country. This is the war that both
of them want. Donald Trump wants to be able to
show I can take on the biggest guy on your team,
Gavin Newsom, and impose my will on the bluest state,
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one of the bluest states in the nation, and Gavin
Newsom wont to be able to say, I David struck
down your goliath.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, and it's it's go time for Gavin Newsom. It's
time to show that you're what you're made of.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Sure, but it's perfect for him.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yes, But it's also decision time for the Democratic powers
that be. Are we going to rally against this guy?
Is this going to be our guy heading into the
next big election? Are we going to throw our weight
behind him? Or do we keep our hands off this battlefield?
And the Democrats really have to have this, like this
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conscience battle of where are you're going to go from here?
You have not been able to rally around one person.
Will they rally around Gavin Newsom? I mean, it's been
the conversation, but I don't I mean, it's been the
conversation in California, I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't know what the conversation is nationwide. I don't
read the other local papers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But yeah, and that is that I think is probably
the next big thing to figure out is if you're
in Buffalo, New York, if you're in Charlotte, North Carolina,
or Denver, what is your opinion of this guy? Do
you see him as a champion for the Party of Democrats, or.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All you're thinking about is Josh Allen going to come
through in the playoffs? We get a quarterback for Carolina.
Where was the other place?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Denver?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Denver? I mean, there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Questions pick three football, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Starting to I'm starting to feel the fields I went to.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
I went to the grocery store and I saw somebody
at an.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Eagles hat and I was like, Oh, keep it, keep
it to yourself. Close to engaging with a complete stranger,
like for what it's an Eagles fan, Like what you're
like this?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
You're like people once they learn a language, they'll start
dreaming in that from if You're starting to dream in football?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Part about me? I really do.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
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Speaker 3 (22:58):
One of the stories that's a sidelight to all of
the protests and riots and looting and everything that's been
going on is that Gavin Newsom requested a temporary restraining
order to block the administration's deployment of National Guard troops
and marines here in southern California. The judge yesterday in
this case, District Judge Charles Bryer did set a hearing
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for tomorrow, but did not grant that request for the
temporary restraining order, tomorrow being Thursday. The governor has said
this request for the temporary restraining order says that the
Trump administration's use of troops creates imminent harm to state sovereignty,
deprives the state of vital resources, escalates tensions, promotes rather
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than quell civil unrest, and seeks to prevent federal troops
from enforcing laws in a civilian city, which is again
at this point, not what the National Guard and Marine
Corps has been tasked with doing. The Governor's office said,
the mission orders soldiers to engage in unlawful civilian law
enforcement activities, which it does in communities across the region,
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beyond just guarding federal buildings. So again at this case,
at this point, no temporary restraining order. The judge did
set tomorrow the hearing to go through some.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Of all of this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The judge, by the way, Charles Bryer, happens to be
the younger brother of former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Bryer.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
If you're keeping score at home, all.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, Coming up next, we'll dive into swamp watch tons
to get to do we have a deal with China
with the tariffs that would be a huge deal. Guantanamo
Bay a place for Trump to put people who are
here illegally. That conversation is picking up steam as well.
We'll have all the latest for you coming up next.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Latest on the protest.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We do expect yet another update from Karen Bass at
some point this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I believe eleven o'clock is the is.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The information I saw if I don't know what she
has to say much today, because last night was relatively
quiet in terms of rioting. The curfew went into effect
at eight o'clock. There were several arrests last night, but
nowhere near the amount of damage, violence, graffiti, looting that
we had seen in a couple of previous nights.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Michael Monks joins us he's been on top of the
protesters protests, I should say, ever since they erupted over
the weekend. And now we've got an Alla City council
ad that has been put on unpaid leave following an
arrest at one of these protests. And the story goes
a little deeper than that. Michael, am I now sorry,
(00:57):
I apologize, no worries. Yeah, this isn't a radio, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, this is Isabel Herado City council woman, newly elected
at the end of last year, so she's serving very
early in her first term. She unseated longtime politician Kevin
daleon and you may recall during that campaign that towards
the end she got caught up in sort of a
mini controversy because she was recorded in front of a
group of college students at calcet Ola saying f the police.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So that's just to set the scene for who we're
talking about here. And so a staffer for Isabelle Herado
Lose Aguilar, she has been placed on unpaid leave because
she's been arrested suspicion of assaulting a police officer with
a deadly weapon. Where when, Oh, on Sunday at the
anti ice protest demonstrations in downtown Los Angeles. But that's
(01:49):
not Lose Aguilar's only connection to local politics. Her dad
is Rick Cole, who is a sitting member of the
Pasadena City Council and is all also a high ranking
figure in the office of La City Controller.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Kenneth Maheah. Okay, Can she simply be fired? Why? Why? Why?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Why administrative leave and not simply fire her attraction council
woman Isabelle Herado herself. Okay, because this is uh it's
going to make me mad.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my staff member.
They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold my staff
to the highest standards.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Just to point out, this is from last night's news
conference with the.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Or just real quick, what's happened to my staff member?
Like this was something that happened to the staff.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
That is, Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my
staff member. They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold
my staff to the highest standards. Well, I will. I
wait to see due process and so we'll see the
outcome of that. But I see that as separate and
apart from a reaction to what our constituents want in
this city and how this type of opportunism has escalated
(03:04):
between yesterday and the day before. And you know, frankly,
I admit my humility here in my beginnerness and that
I'm new to downtown. But our downtown stakeholders have seen
this multiple times over and had to basically develop their
own strategies, and they saw the warning signs of how
this could get worse.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So she was alongside Mayor Bass during the press conference
because all of this stuff has been happening in downtown
Los Angeles. She happens to represent downtown. You heard her
reference I'm new to downtown. That's because downtown is But
we keep hearing the word sliver. This is a sliver
of her district, which is mostly Northeast LA suburbs like
Boyle Heights and then Downtown is kind of thrown in
(03:45):
with all those and is usually a famous afterthought of
whoever's representing that district.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Okay, do you feel that I thought a little earthquake
was a truck?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Also, side note you mentioned or you heard in the
council woman's line there they This does appear to be
a they them person council member who was arrested with
her twins, their twin.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Sister, so it's two sisters.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Lose Aguilar is the one who works in the office,
but also her sister, twenty six year old obviously Antonia
Aguilar Them. Okay, my apologies if I've missed jets. Okay,
it's it's your beginnerness. It's showing it's my beginnerness. So
I'm asking for some races. Yeah, she's a new council member,
and she is a little. Her public speaking is a
(04:33):
little clunky. She's and that's all I can say about that.
But you know, obviously this is somebody who set a
tone on the campaign trail about her feelings about policing.
She is from the same school of local politics as
Unisses Hernandez, Hugo Soto Martinez, who also serve on the
city Council and have strong sentiments about LAPD funding, LAPD behavior.
(04:58):
In fact, before for the mayor's press conference yesterday, the
chief of police was hauled into the city council chamber.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Answer question.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We'll do that next segment, because that was also you'd
want to talk about putting a guy like Jim McDonell
in the absolute worst possible position and making an answer
questions that are almost impossible for the chief of local
police department to answer.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We'll do that well.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
After they've totally fed him when it comes to the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Budget, right right, Gary Channon will continue. Michael Monks has
joined us.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Judge not granting Governor Newsom's request for an immediate block
of the deployment of troops to California but what is
the schedule, the timeline, what's the next steps for that
lawsuit against the president by the governor.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Marines are joining the National Guard soldiers today. It's the
first day the Marines will be on the streets. Approximately
seventeen hundred members of the National guards seventy ninth Infantry
Brigade Combat Team are in LA Team as part of
the National Guard's twenty one hundred member Task Force fifty
(06:11):
one on titled ten status in California. So they will,
like you mentioned, be there to assist in guarding federal properties.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
You know, it's a very.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's a very different conversation when it comes to Marines
in the National Guard just there to guard federal properties
as opposed to manning the streets.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and it's important that an.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Important distinction that could change at a moment's notice, couldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It if the President decides to invoke the Insurrection Act.
And as we talked with Jessica Levinson yesterday from Loyola,
she was explaining, the courts have given a lot of
leeway to presidents to make decisions like that, So we
don't know which way his wind is blowing right now,
if in fact he wants to do that. Michael Monks
(06:57):
has joined us, who's been covering a lot of different
aspects of the stories this story over the last several days,
and one of the new aspects of it is that
the City Council in Los Angeles is now upset with
the LAPD chief for.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
What well, you know this LAPD.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They can't get a break right now because there's criticism
coming from all angles. You're not doing enough, you're doing
too much. All at the same time, I think the
majority sentiment among the city councils that perhaps LAPD was
doing too much, and there were also some accusations made
about whether they're colluding with some of the federal agencies
that have come in this. They hauled in Chief Jim
McDonald to the City council meeting yesterday. This was a
(07:38):
late agenda item that they always meet on Tuesdays, but
this is obviously the first Tuesday to come along since
everything broke loose on Friday. In fact, we got word
of the raid during the city council meeting last Friday,
the one taking place in the Garment district. So this
is their first meeting since all of it, So they're
chomping at the bit to ask some questions and they did,
and council members like the one we referenced Isabelle Herado Unice,
(07:59):
He's hernad As Hugosda Martinez.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They have a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Concerns about the behavior of LAPD officers against the protesters.
That seem to be where their concerns are. I've got
some sound from Hugo Soda Martinez and his line of questioning.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
We have to be mindful of the tactics that are
being used by some LAPD members that is adding to
the escalation because that is taking away from the goal
of keeping families together. Now, just like a few protesters
can take away from the messaging, the same thing can
be said by LAPD. It overshadows the response. So I
(08:39):
just want people to remember that in this moment, everybody
as a city has to live by our values and
keep our eyes on the prize. We are fighting a
white nationalist president that will like nothing better than to
come into our city and deport our people.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And wipen it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is that what he's going to suggest next is that
what he thinks that this really is is that he's
that the president is trying to whiten Southern California that.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That statement is not far off from typical characterizations of
the Trump administration from these folks. This is kind of
what they said leading up to the adoption of a
sanctuary city policy and in the weeks since with all
of the chaos that has ensued. The chief of police
was also grilled by city councilhen Emelda Padilla, who asked
(09:30):
whether the LAPD could maybe alert city officials if federal
law enforcement agencies were coming into town to do something,
and the chief got kind of snippy with her and
he said, you know, you're asking me to warn you
about an enforcement action being taken by another agency before
it happens.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We can't do that. No, it's illegal, an obstruction of justice.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
But also Council President Marquise Harris Dawson is doesn't like
referring to ICE as an other federal agencies as enforcement partner.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
McDonald the restraint that he must have to sit before
these boobs who have been around for five minutes and
think they know what his job is better than what
he then he knows after being in Los Angeles for
as long as he has, the patience and the restraint
is freaking incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
There's a point that has to be made as well
about the city council, and even the mayor has kind
of alluded to this that they don't know when these
raids are coming.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The bottom line is, we don't know, and that is
consistent with ice raids. Of course, we never know when,
we never know how long.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Okay, that's consistent with all law enforcement who happen to
have a very specific tactic of catching people off guard when.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They're engaged in criminal behavior.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They don't call people and say, hey, Josh, just so
you know, you're wanted on a murder warrant out of Pacoima,
can we come like just hang out at like four
forty five maybe five o'clock if you're not busy. We'd
love to be able to come in and put handcuffs
on you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's not the way law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Has ever worked, So why why is.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
There a surprise They just don't know? The federal government
would would send up a telegram to someone and suggest.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh, we're going to be at this place at this.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Time so that you can send five hundred people to
get in our way. Hey, we'll keep in mind put
themselves at risk too, And that's that's valid and keep
in mind though, that the chief is also getting it
from the federal government, like the Department of Homeland Security
is not happy with the Los Angeles Police Department either,
for not showing up at a time that they thought
was adequate to support the federal agencies who were on
the ground executing these warrants. That was Friday, right, that
(11:47):
that was that was related to Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
But look, well there's also the ari.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I mean, you can why it's the National Guard here?
Why are the Marines here? I mean, that's a direct
and that's a direct comment.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh, there's a couple of things. And you know, there
was the comment about overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He said, he did.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Say that, and I think what his purpose of saying
that was was you can't cut from the LAPD which
is actively happening at city Hall if you want us
to respond to things this large is what the basis
of that comment was. But it can be construed as
calling for help from the federal government now that the
(12:24):
federal government has stepped in.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And that I think is one of the shortcomings that
we've seen in the last couple of days is no
one has asked the chief.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't know how available he has been.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We're not the reporters that are there in those news conferences,
but somebody needs to ask him to revisit that comment
because there are a lot of people are using that for
him explaining, like you said, I mean, he could be
taken a couple of different ways. What did he mean
by that? Was it just the context of Friday night
we were overwhelmed, or Saturday night we were overwhelmed, we
(12:54):
didn't have enough flex cuffs for people, or is it
legitimately we do not have enough men and women to
put on the streets to keep this thing under control.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's a reflex when you're the head of an agency
like this to say we need more all the time.
It's one of their jobs, whether you're the fire chief,
police chief, what have you, to make sure funding is
not cut, make sure in fact that it is added
to under your watch. That's one of the hallmarks of
a strong chief is to make sure your funding is
(13:25):
not cut and in fact, if you can bolster it
even better. His funding has been cut, the LAPD's funding
has been cut, so his number one goal is to
stop that from happening. And when you're requiring the LAPED
to show out and force like that on Friday night
and they are reduced.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
They're at a reduced workforce.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're going to say things like that, and when this
thing exploded, he didn't see it. This exploding Friday night
into Saturday to a national story. And then all of
a sudden, that underwhelmed comment gets parlayed into oh, this
is why Trump was able to send in all of
his henchmen or whatever the form of the National Guard
in the Marines. And so, yeah, I think you're right.
(14:03):
I think that. I don't know why he hasn't been
pressed on that. I guess it doesn't mean as much
as it means.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
To he doesn't want to get Kristian crowleyed, I don't know,
you know, speaking against the mayor like the fire chief did, and.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh I already forgotten. Nay, quickly, we move on really quickly.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I know you guys have to take a break, but
I just want to say it's clear the LAPD's tactics
have amplified and they've gotten the message that we need
to do more. I'm anxious to see how today goes,
if anything breaks out in the afternoon before the curfew,
to see if that continues and two. The LAPD did
lose out in this budget. They saw their recruitment opportunities
caught in half. But for the past several years they
(14:40):
were fully funded to bring more officers in and they
have confessed themselves that they have been unable to fill
their ranks for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Curfews starts today. Yes, all right, thank you, Michael, appreciate it.
Stay out of downtown. Thanks.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
Ambition is odd. I really love ambition. I admire it
when someone has ambition, but sometimes it can go too far.
But it's always fun to talk about, isn't it. Gavin
Newsom is the subject of an article in The Wall
Street Journal about him leaning into this LA unrest to
position himself as the head of the monster that is
(15:22):
the opposition to Trump and what the administration represents, and
he has seen I mean, it's an important moment, I
said earlier.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I think this is make or break for Newsom.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If he wants to insinuate himself as the leader of
the resistance, then he's gonna have to show the math.
He's gonna have to really be hard hitting and establish
himself not as a pretty boy left California I like
wine tasting and a six hundred dollars meal guy, but
somebody who's palatable to the Democrats and the rest of
(15:55):
the country. If you're going to go after Trump, you've
got to go to Trump's arena and beat him there.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
And I just don't know if Newsom has it in him.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
There's an interesting you mentioned, what was your article from
Wall Street. There's another one in Politico as well today
that uses the same the same kind of backbone that
the idea that Gavin Newsom has re appeared on the
national stage in terms of being the main face of
(16:29):
opposition against Donald Trump. But they actually credit Trump with
catapulting Newsom to that.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So that was going to be my next thought, and
I'm glad that they got to it, because my thought
reading the Wall Street Journal article is this is only
because Trump has enabled Newsom to rise to this level,
And you've got to ask yourself why, And if Trump
wants his legacy to endure past his administration and he's
(16:57):
crowning Newsom as the king of resistance, Trump's got to
believe that Newsom is just that an empty pillowcase well, no,
they're there because, hey, if you want this guy to
take on me and my buddy's over here, whether it
be jd Vance or what whoever's waiting in the wings,
the Trump family would have you go for it, right
(17:18):
because we know we can demolish him. I mean, you
do have to ask yourself that question. It is Newsome
becoming a topic nationally because Trump's enabling him because he
knows he can beat him.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And what is the actual character of Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What? And I don't mean that question.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I don't mean you know, who is he as a person,
although we've asked that question many times. I mean as
a political character outside of California? Do people see him
as the legitimate standard bearer for the Democratic Party fighting
for immigrants in this country? Does he see him as
a strict politician who is leveraging his position, his money,
(18:01):
his uh face, his notoriety in his face, his hair
into position where that will help, you know, make help
the leap to the next step.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Does he have the balls that matter in places like
Ohio or Pennsylvania. Does he have the friendships in the
power circles to get things done? Does he have the
money outside of California. Three big questions and right now
you're not getting a lot of yeses.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
And maybe after this he meets this.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Moment, maybe more people will jump on the slow speed
Gavin train with stops in places like Madera. But until then,
until those questions are answered, you're just gonna have this
like weak stream guide leading your resistance.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Remember a year ago, there were discussions about whether Gavin
Newsom was going to jump into the to the Democratic
primaries right year ago, year and a half ago before
they started, and he repeatedly said, listen, I don't I'm
not planning on it, or whatever whatever the term he
was using at the time, but he was begging in
(19:11):
the back rooms, please push me into the limelight, force
my hand, and I can be the reluctant hero that
comes in and saves the Democratic Party from a faltering
candidate in what was Joe Biden at the time. It
almost feels like he got lucky again with this, that
Donald Trump is going after Gavin Newsom in this instance
(19:33):
and he is relishing the accidental hero. Listen, I don't
want to have to be in this position. But if
I'm going to stand up for the four year old.
What if I'm going to stand up for the families
that are being torn apart, then I will. I will
wear that mantle proudly, although I didn't ask for it. Please,
(19:54):
this is this is his this is his conference championship.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
In every industry, or he gets to the super Bowl
in every occupation, sports or otherwise. There's a time when
people are exposed. Yeah, and Kamala Harris. Unfortunately we all
saw that in real time. Trump has brought this fight
to Gavin Newsom. Gavin's been blustering about it four months,
if not years. All Right, well, now it's game time.
(20:23):
What the hell are you going to do? How are
you going to fight?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
This?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Is he the most powerful governor in the country, democratic governor?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is he the most powerful?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I obviously it's because we have a huge economy,
we have a huge state, we have huge population. You
can make the argument he is the most powerful democratic
governor in the country. This is the war that both
of them want. Donald Trump wants to be able to
show I can take on the biggest guy on your team,
Gavin Newsom, and impose my will on the bluest state,
(20:56):
one of the bluest states in the nation, and Gavin
Newsom wont to be able to say, I David struck
down your goliath.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, and it's it's go time for Gavin Newsom. It's
time to show that you're what you're made of.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Sure, but it's perfect for him.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yes, But it's also decision time for the Democratic powers
that be. Are we going to rally against this guy?
Is this going to be our guy heading into the
next big election? Are we going to throw our weight
behind him? Or do we keep our hands off this battlefield?
And the Democrats really have to have this, like this
(21:33):
conscience battle of where are you're going to go from here?
You have not been able to rally around one person.
Will they rally around Gavin Newsom? I mean, it's been
the conversation, but I don't I mean, it's been the
conversation in California, I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't know what the conversation is nationwide. I don't
read the other local papers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But yeah, and that is that I think is probably
the next big thing to figure out is if you're
in Buffalo, New York, if you're in Charlotte, North Carolina,
or Denver, what is your opinion of this guy? Do
you see him as a champion for the Party of Democrats, or.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All you're thinking about is Josh Allen going to come
through in the playoffs? We get a quarterback for Carolina.
Where was the other place?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Denver?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Denver? I mean, there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Questions pick three football, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Starting to I'm starting to feel the fields I went to.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
I went to the grocery store and I saw somebody
at an.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Eagles hat and I was like, Oh, keep it, keep
it to yourself. Close to engaging with a complete stranger,
like for what it's an Eagles fan, Like what you're
like this?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
You're like people once they learn a language, they'll start
dreaming in that from if You're starting to dream in football?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Part about me? I really do.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
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Speaker 3 (22:58):
One of the stories that's a sidelight to all of
the protests and riots and looting and everything that's been
going on is that Gavin Newsom requested a temporary restraining
order to block the administration's deployment of National Guard troops
and marines here in southern California. The judge yesterday in
this case, District Judge Charles Bryer did set a hearing
(23:20):
for tomorrow, but did not grant that request for the
temporary restraining order, tomorrow being Thursday. The governor has said
this request for the temporary restraining order says that the
Trump administration's use of troops creates imminent harm to state sovereignty,
deprives the state of vital resources, escalates tensions, promotes rather
(23:41):
than quell civil unrest, and seeks to prevent federal troops
from enforcing laws in a civilian city, which is again
at this point, not what the National Guard and Marine
Corps has been tasked with doing. The Governor's office said,
the mission orders soldiers to engage in unlawful civilian law
enforcement activities, which it does in communities across the region,
(24:02):
beyond just guarding federal buildings. So again at this case,
at this point, no temporary restraining order. The judge did
set tomorrow the hearing to go through some.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Of all of this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The judge, by the way, Charles Bryer, happens to be
the younger brother of former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Bryer.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
If you're keeping score at home, all.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, Coming up next, we'll dive into swamp watch tons
to get to do we have a deal with China
with the tariffs that would be a huge deal. Guantanamo
Bay a place for Trump to put people who are
here illegally. That conversation is picking up steam as well.
We'll have all the latest for you coming up next.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
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