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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Big shout out to former colleagues and new people at
Fox eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You guys have done a great job.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
But to all the local news reporters, all of them
at all of the different stations, amazing. And we all
are flipping from station to station looking for sometimes neighborhood
specific information.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Sometimes it's just.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Literally when somebody goes to some shot, you're looking for
another shot.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I mean, we all become sort of directors in our homes.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You know. Of course, you know people think that we're
competitors with various stations. We're all connected. We're in the
same boat. So what I'm trying to say is I
follow a lot of the reporters that you see on
the other stations and all incredible work that we're doing
out there, and we as in them on the front lines.
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They're in the actual firefight. Bring those incredible pictures. And
thank goodness though that all seems to be behind us.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Knock on Woo, Marla, knock on wood well.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
And again, and it was a I don't feel like
it was like a seventy two hour run where all
of you guys are out there.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
For NonStop covering and just terrific work.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
You know, we don't take that responsibility lightly of informing
the public because we're hoping that we're saving lives and
saving your home and getting you the vittle information.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's where you get the best of local news, you know.
I think there can be you know, in some when
stuff mellows out, it can be kind of if it bleeds,
it leads kind of stuff, you know what I mean.
But I think when this sort of thing happens, you
need local news desperately, and you need a local news organization.
We're lucky in Los Angeles because it's still staff with
people and enough people to get out there and give
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information that's critical to the public.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
A lot of communities don't have that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But anyway, congratulations on work well done, and sadly it's
not over. So now the good news is we had
a fairly yes and.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Last twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
In fact, so we heard at the eight am press
briefing that from CalFire that there was little to no
new growth in both the Palisades and the Eton fires,
but there's always a butt. LAFD fire chief christ and
Crowley said they had their surveillance, aerial surveillance going on
and infrared technology picked up quite a few hotspots and
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so those although you can't see the flames from your
vantage point wherever you are, there are hotspots out there.
And of course we know listening to Amy that those
red flag warnings remained in effect until three or six
o'clock this afternoon, depending on where you live. So they
are closely monitoring the hotspots. But overall, no new fire
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growth is great, great, great news.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I also think that it's worth noting because I know
there's some people out there who still.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Don't have power.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh yeah, I mean there's a bunch of power shutdowns
and it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I mean it's days. Some customers haven't had power.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So tens of thousands of Southern California ED customers, because
of the red flag conditions, are likely to endure more shutoffs. Again,
these are to prevent new wildfires, and the connection between
Southern California ED and the Altadena fire is demonstrable. I
mean it feels as though there already have been four
lawsuits and there could be a class action case emerging there.
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But new video from overnight is apparently showing that lights
are out at gas stations and shopping centers in the
San Bernardino Mountains, and the utility power outage map showing
that Crestline and Lake Arrowhead is or are among the
areas without power this morning. So tens of thousands of
Southern California ED customers no power because of these dangerous
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red flag conditions. More shut offs could be coming to
prevent any new wildfires. That's just worth noting along the way, and.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Anytime you see a little spark r upts, you think
of the world. So we were on the air last
night and there was another wild fire that broke out
in the Pacoima area area right along the Handsome Dam
and it was right next to an apartment complex with
the car port right there, literally right next to it.
In La County Fire along with Angelo's National Force. They
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got there and they were able to put it out
within thirty minutes. It was incredible. They aggressively attacked it.
But it's one of those things though now when you
report we'd normally report wildfires, but now you're just on
edge because is this the next big one, sure.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And structure fires fall into the same category normally. Go well,
you know the structure fire, you know it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Palette factory or something.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know, you idea they had caught fire under this
freeway over and overpass. It's sort of like sadly urban life,
you know, and yet now it takes on an entirely
different significance.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
All of those things.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, we're just glad that so far, as mentioned, last
twenty four hours have been really relatively calm, but there
are still the bad players out there. Ellie County Sheriff
Robert Luna he announced today that forty four people total,
just in his jurisdiction have been arrested for things like looting, burglary,
curfew violations, weapons possessions. And there was a second person
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in the last twenty four hours, mark arrested for impersonating
a firefighter.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
That's just insane, insane, insane.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean again, I'm hoping for prompt and severe prosecutions
and punishments.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, Hawkman was part of the ad impressor and he
said absolutely, you know, I mean, the other day he
announced ten people charges against them, nine for looting, one
for arson. That arson case was not directly linked to
these recent wildfires.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Nonetheless, I think the least.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Amount of jail time that these people are looking at
is six years.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So Hawkman's serious.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, and that's what we need. We need follow through
on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It's crazy, the looting, the impastination of firefighters so you
can then go in and loot, and of course arson
and I get it some of the arson cases because
in that press conference they were talking about, you know,
some of the specifics around these arsen cases and they
sound like you know, fed up street people, you know.
But sorry, there is no rationale, no excuse, no framing
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that gives me any sympathy for people setting fires.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Oh stop, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
And you know they've all been sort of connected on this,
which is good to see the chief of fire, the
chief of police, the chief of the sheriff's department, and
then Hawkman out there saying we're done. You know, you
you get caught, We're going to throw the book at you.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Great.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Great throwing the book is something that we have to
get a lot better at.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, we haven't done that of late in recent years,
but I think the tides changing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's been a week after the Palisades fire started, and
the cleanup along PCH has started. Federal and state teams
are getting rid of hazardous waste and debris from houses
businesses that were taken out by the fires. They had
four dumpsters filled with debris by midday yesterday. They've established
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a buffer zone along the freeway, so they've created two
lanes of workable space for crews to park and to
clear debris. And they're dumpsters all along those areas of PCH.
And of course we've talked about the We've talked about
the toxins and in the air. Yeah, it's a really
unhealthy period, you know, during the fires and even post fire.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You know, I'm glad you wrought that up because if
you watch local forecasts right and they have their air
quality censors up, and you did this, this is what
you used to do, right. Sure, well, it's deceiving because
the air quality sensors linked to the National Weather Service.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
If you look in our area right now, it says good,
which is very deceiving. But we had a doctor on
last night.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
He's a medical contributor who works for US, doctor Michael Daniel.
He said that those sensors don't pick up all of
the toxins. The only monitor five, which aren't even necessarily
the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They check for particulate matter I think in the main
and so you don't see a lot of those toxins
played out with the ultimate number that they give you.
They'll give you like a you know, something in the
fifties is usually acceptable type thing. And yeah, you're right.
So much gets into the outfield just because the technology
is not designed to be tuned to some of these toxins,
I mean, metals and other just stuff that gets into
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your lungs, deep into your lungs.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I could really do some damage.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well that's something to keep in mind. So there are.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Free Christmas everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, sorry, well, happy New Year already. We're on day fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know, at some point today I want to double
back and talk about the cause of the Palisades fire,
because it was addressed at the press conference, I believe
a bit, but they just there. Yeah, No, let's do it,
because essentially there was yesterday I was talking about it
a bit, and today I've got some key follow up
on that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So we'll get to it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Okay, joining us now is somebody I'm looking forward to
talking to. I'm sorry that it's under these circumstances. I
used to work with her at Fox eleven when she
was part of the team there, she says, gone on
and she's become an LA based correspondent for ABC News Network.
Zorene Shaw is on the line now. Zorene, thank you
so much for being with us today.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Of course, lad with you.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I saw the Instagram post from Zorine and it was moving.
It was really And that's really the reason that we
brought Zorine on into the mix today because her story
is I think, an extraordinary one, but it's also one
that is relatable. Sadly, I've heard others similar and so
maybe we can begin to lay that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Out absolutely really quite moving.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yes, So, Zorene and her husband had spent one night
in their brand new home in Malibu and then it
burned down. Literally, Zorene, you closed on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Crazy, It's crazy, we did. And this was our dream house.
Rechi had spent six years, you know, every month, sometimes
every weekend driving up to Malibu to look for, you know,
our dream house, and he found it. We were so
excited and I was so proud, you know, I stayed
and saved and we don't make a gazillion dollars that
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this job. We don't and and I, you know, my
parents had never owned a home. I saved and I
was so excited and proud to have twenty percent of
down payment. And we put it in. We got it,
and we we enjoyed a night there. We had a
few other hours, and then it was gone. And this
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home was a perfect home. I can't say that enough.
Everyone keeps saying, oh, you'll build that better, Oh you'll
build a better home, You'll build your dream home. But
this was our dream home. I mean it was home
where you you know, deer would come up to the window.
Like we had an alvocado and a peach and a
green tree. We had just this beautiful ocean view. This
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is a home we wanted to retire in. We wanted
to bring our friends over. We just loved it and
we were excited. And look, I have to say, I
have to say that we just closed on Christmas Eve.
There are a lot of people out there who lost
their homes, who have lost far more. They have lost
a lifetime of belongings, and they have lost a lifetime
of memories. We are one of the lucky ones, and
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we are devastated for them. We have lost. We have
three friends who lost their homes in the Albany in
the fire. They lost everything, man like except for their
travel bags and then like you know, the bat clothes
on their back. They have nothing. And so we we
know how lucky we are in this moment. But we
lost the dream. That's what we lost.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you were pretty into perspective there,
and everyone has their own story. Nonetheless, it doesn't take
away or diminish you know what you and your husband
are going through. Just to think that the one night,
how how are you two doing? What's recovery look like?
Are you planning to rebuild there?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Absolutely we are, but we we you know, Marlon. I'm
also dealing with I certied as a reporter because you
and I we've covered fires for so long. My god,
you know, I've said on so many since near so
many people burned down homes. I've said on so much
turned lands. I mean, as a reporter in Los Angeles,
you cover these over and over and over again. While
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I'm dealing with it with it be my home, and
I'm learning so much. I'm learning, you know, first of
all the thing that I thought would be the biggest
struggle is not the biggest struggle. I thought that. I look,
we're very nervous, we're not going to get our fire
insurance that could still be at What we're hearing from
a lot of people who lost their homes in these
fires is if you have fire insurance, when your home
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completely burns to the ground, you typically do get the
full amount. Like I'm just I'm just repeating what I've
heard from other people, which is a relief, huge relief
to us, and I hope that works out for us
and everyone else.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's what I wanted to ask you about. I'm sorry,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
We have a California Fair Plan. We have a California
Fair Plan. I'm I'm very nervous about it, very nervous
about the future of it. But what we're hearing is
that it will be okay. That the race will probably
go up over time, but right now will likely be okay.
The thing that I didn't realize would be the big problem,
the big sort of that you don't really realize having
these stories as a reporter, right because we kind of
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go in, we cover it, and then we sort of
move on off, And is the permitting that the permitting
takes so long because of the bureaucracy in LA that
there's months and months of all these different departments looking
over and then look, we have the original plans to
our house. A lot of people whose house is burned
down do or you can pull them, and but yet
it is supposed to be such an effort to rebuild.
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So that's one of the And look, there's many things
I'm learning as I'm navigating this. They had no idea
of covering these fires for so long, but that's one
of the big ones.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Well, this is interesting that you mentioned this because one
of the things that they've talked about is the ways
in which they are going to fast track a lot
of the rebuild. So the Coastal Commission is notorious in Malibu.
I mean, there is almost no way you can navigate
that in any kind of expeditious manner. But now they're saying, no,
we're going to now change the way the rebuild will work,
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so you may be able to fast track a lot
of things.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think. I think that's true in a couple of spaces,
And what I really want to do is really break
down through there's a few different departments right in the
Permaning Department. And then there's a few different agencies like,
for example, the LA County Agency that remove debris that
apparently takes a few months, right, But there's so many
things you don't even think about that goes through the
county that that can take a long period of time
that hold a lot of us back. And I believe
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personally we need to build back fast. We have the
the Olympics coming in twenty twenty eight. This place looks
like a war zone. We have the World Content he
in yeah twenty six, we have you know, a litory
election obviously in twenty twenty six, eight presidential election in
twenty twenty eight, and hoping some of these things will
force our elected officials to remove more of these sort
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of like these things that just delay and delay and delay.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, there's bureaucracy and there's also building back smart. We
can't just fast track everything and you end up in
the same place years later. So we have to build
back with fire resistant materials. We've got to build back smart,
otherwise we'll be talking to Zorin again in another three years.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Mark, I got to tell you on that point, and
this is where I get confused, right, because I'm like, okay,
all this stuff does take so long. We're you know,
for the original people who built my house in twenty eleven,
they spent eight years getting permits. Sometimes it took them
one year to get an answer back on a single questions. Wow, yeah,
our health. Our house is built of glass and steel.
If you look at the top of it, right, we
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had sprinklers and we remotely turned on the day of
the fire we had. We didn't have a house behind us,
we did not have a house next to us. And
so my fear is these fires are getting so strong
and it's stronger and sound right, it's not getting any better, right, Like, yes,
we do have to build back stronger and smarter, but
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to some extent I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I don't know. Yeah, it sounds like you were already
pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean on the on the on the build back
so that that actually your a gallon.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
We had a fire gallon of water, a fire und
down water tank next to our home. I do not
believe we need to go up a closer look, but
we don't believe it was ever used. And this is look,
we know our firefighters were stretched. We we know they
had a really tough time out there. But I'm say
I will be very satisfy. Really border this tank was
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not used from the picture I took, and from the
angle or the angle that we saw, it was not.
And look we did not make it close to the house.
I was ready to go up there and stand on
the you know, on the remains of my house. My
husband was inconsolable. We got there and I said, do
you want to drive up that's the bottom of the
driveway where you can see the photo that I took
from the angle, And he said no, no, and he
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was just sobbing. He said, take a picture and let's go.
And but I am so curious to go up there.
I just all I want to know is how did
this happen?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
A tree?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You know, maybe an ember? The toll on a tree
my house.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
By the way, I learned that stat from Dean Sharp,
who has a show here on KFI. He said that
eighty percent of homes that are struck by wildfire come
from embers. They're not on the fire line. So that's
very welcome your situation, Zorine.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
We got to run. Thank you so much though, for
it really is and wishing you whenever and.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Rishi your husband the best Zorine Shaw if you see
Los Angeles correspondent, but the g man, he'll be calling
in a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Very if we can, if we can stitch it together,
we're going to try to make it happen so he
can say.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Hi his listeners miss him and Shannon of course, yeah,
those two are great.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
The governor is busy with an executive order signed yesterday.
This is to help protect victims of the fire from
predatory real estate speculators. There's a lot going on, but
speculators come in and they'll just buy it up as
is right.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Oh yeah, there's already offers pouring in.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
And so newsom came and you know who was along
with them was the board chair of Ellie County Supervisors,
Katherine Barger. She joined last night during the Fox eleven
news at six o'clock, so I had her on. I
asked her about it because there was a photo op
of her with the governor and other local officials, and
she said, oh, yeah, because we are. We're tired of
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it already, of people trying to take advantage of literal
victims to be victimized.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Here's what she told me. What's the takeaway?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Well, the takeaway is that you know, there are predators
out there that are taking advantage of people. And you know,
we talk about price gouging, and then we were talking
about individuals. I was passing the convention center and sought
individuals handing out cards saying you don't need to go
through your broker, we'll take care of you. And now
we have people calling and saying we'll buy your property.
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We'll give you one two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And these people.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Are vulnerable, they are in shock, and it is sickening
to know that there are individuals out there who are
taking advantage of these victims.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They are victims.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Can you believe that I want to get back to
some as you said in there, that she was at
the Pasadena Convention Center, which is now serving as an
evacuation center. It's the largest one out there for victims
of the Eaton fire or Policies fire.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
But obviously this is.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Close to Altadena, and she had an LA County jacket
on it didn't say that she was a supervisor, and
let alone the board chair and the fraudsters were there
and they walked up to her and they handed her
a card.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know something about here, We're here to help you.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's just wild.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I mean it is that is how it's.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Like going to a hospital and praying on people who
are about to sure and on their last breath.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Right, you can sign your estate over to me, now.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Exactly, I'll take care of you. Don't worry. I'll take
care of your family. So is that that bad to
hear all of those stories out there?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So on the politics of it all? You spoke to
her about that. Here you go.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
What's the takeaway?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh, oh, it's a different cut or is just the
same cut?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
That's what's the takeaway? What's going to be for the
next segment?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
It was, yeah, but we can do.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It all now, Well, let's do it next segment. Then.
I like staying on plant, you know, I like to
order off the menu.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, we're going to do that. Is that okay with you? Keana?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Is that we're gonna We're gonna we'll do this when
we come back. Yeah, okay, Garian Shannon Show. We do
like to follow a plan. You know, it seems very loose,
and it is loose, but we do have a plan.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, Kenna is the producer and she's doing great jobs.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And we like to follow her plan and restruct her plan.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Jacob on the board, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Jacob's plan is pretty much set every day. He is unshakable.
But our plan is movable. And there's an Israeli a
Mas deal that was reached. And you may hear much
about this today because it's probably the lead story internationally.
I mean, this is a fifteen month war that's gone
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on and the destruction that it's wreaked is otherworldly.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
And we've heard this time and time again that you know,
they're getting closer to a deal, closer to a deal.
According to mediators, the deal includes phased hostage releases, hundred
prisoner exchanges, and of course it aims to ultimately end
the fifteen month long war, though there are questions that
do remain about the displaced Palestinians returning Gaza's reconstruction and
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achieving lasting piece.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, even the hostage release, there are questions there. It's
going to be a phased release, is what they're saying
of these hostages. And this all is, as you know,
probably broker by the Qataris.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The Kataris, it is, yes, are very much a part
of this.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Many of the Hamas leadership lives in Qatar, and so
the Qataris were involved in this from the very beginning,
and envoys for Biden and Trump have been present at
this latest round of negotiations, and of course the Secretary
of State Anthony Blincoln obviously very much a part of
this as well.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
So this is big news.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
It's huge news.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And Biden is preparing to address the breakthrough agreement later
tomorrow because today the spotlight's on him because at five
o'clock our time today he does his farewell address.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
He's doing his exit interview, is what Joe Biden is doing?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, is it really an interview? No one's asking him questions.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, it's the closest you'll get as president, so one
way interview, which is oftentimes the way it works when
you're president.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's right, it's your own after action review. Well, speaking
about it, I did agree, How did you do? I
did great?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Let me tell you we are all about after actions
when it comes to this fire and the questions that
are being asked. And I say this fire, I mean
generically this fire situation. A. It's not done. Red flag
warnings are still up. But b you've had a series
of conversations with local leadership. Yep, that shed some light
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on what's going on again post at least this initial
phase of five.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Well, there's so many politics surrounding it, right, and so
even let's just start with President ELEC.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Trump.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
He takes over the White House on Monday, and local
leaders have asked him to come here. The first one
was the board chair of La County Supervisors, Katherine Barger.
She sent him a letter over the weekend and said,
you know, mister soon to be president again, will you
please come and survey the damage. You need to see
this for yourself. So she joined me last night on
the Fox ELEVENUWS at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
She said that she is confident that he is coming.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
She said, as far as everything that she's being told,
he will be here later next week. We don't have
a date. There's not an official confirmation yet. She hasn't
actually spoken to him while I had her, though, given
the topic around Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, he has
alluded to having conditions tied to the California wild fire
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aid and that hasn't voted. Well, I asked her about that,
and here's what she had to say.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And it will sound something like this is from last night.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
All the politics that have come along with this, and
the strings attached with Washington and wildfire relief, your thoughts
on all that strings attached.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
When we get money from the state, there are strings attached.
So I'm not going to get caught up in the
strings attached because quite frankly, nobody should write a blank check.
You know, the reality is there are checks and balances.
Taxpayers expect that. But when there are things in place
like FEMA, like SBA small Business Administration, when there are
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things that are already in place, let's make sure we
use them. So I'm not going to play politics and
the strings. I'm not going to get caught up in
that because at the end of the day, no matter
who's in the White House, there are always going to
be strings attached. I would expect no less, but I
am confident that we're all going to work together. At
least I'm going to my district. My constituents don't care
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whether you're Republican or a Democrat. They want to know
that you're there to help them. And I guarantee you
I've made that promise.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's a smart politician right there.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It is she's a straight shooter, sort of a no nonsense,
but it does make sense. I mean, when people's lives
have been uprooted, lives have been lost. This is really
like a paradigm shift, if you will, where things from
you know, the fires fire started and then life change
from that moment. We don't need politics in it. We
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just need help.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But the idea somehow that you would say, hey, no
big deal, of course there's strings attached where going to be.
I mean, the idea that you would not let that
get your back up. Yes, it is really really smart.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
As she said, no one should just write a blank check.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And also it's you can always you got to pick
your battles. And that doesn't feel as though it's a
smart battle. It's all rhetorical right now. People are just
you know, kind of taking shots at California. I think
it's despicable necessarily to wrap a lot of politics in it,
but sadly that's just the way it is. And that's
a politician who understands sort of that that's just the
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way it is and isn't going to, as I say,
get knives out based on that rhetoric.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
And you know, Trump was here earlier, what several years ago,
with the the Woolsey fire, and he surveyed the damage then,
and that was when he and Newsome, who he likes
to call Newscomb, were more amicable.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
And now obviously that ship is sailed.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
And when he comes here though, and sees the destruction
and just the devastation between all of the fires, I
would I find it hard to believe that he's going
to withhold aid.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I mean, it still has to be navigated very sensitively,
and that's going to come time to Newsom probably, you know,
but you're right. I think i'd certainly hope that the FEDS,
in the form of Donald Trump would step up. And
as you say, he'll be president beginning Monday. When we
come back. We'll talk about several things related to the
fires that may speak to the future. I also want
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to visit the cause of the Palisades Malibu fire because
something was mentioned yesterday and I want to follow up
on it, and it's fascinating. In fact, Amy King has
had a bit of it in her news through the morning. Anyway,
we'll talk about the causes as we continue as well.
Jay Leno was serving hot meals to the firefighters. We'll
visit that as well, and again the politics of the
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fires and the politics.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
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