June 11, 2025 • 25 mins
Governor Gavin Newsom isn’t backing down — he's leaning into the unrest in Los Angeles and stepping into the national spotlight. Is this California’s resistance going prime time? Meanwhile, Donald Trump calls the weekend protests a display of “big force” — and his team is reportedly eyeing Guantanamo Bay to detain thousands of migrants, starting this week. And that innocent little "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of your inbox? It might not just clean up your email — it could open you up to something bigger.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app Number one. I'm really sorry for
having you smell my pants. I just it was overwhelming
to me that they smelled like China, and they because
they are new pants and I didn't wash them, and
I wanted you to know that that was the smell
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of my pants. It wasn't just me. It all didn't
come out right. And I feel awful about it about
forcing you to smell my pants.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And I'm sorry. I don't even know where to begin with.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, I have other things to get to, one of
which is going to make you extremely happy. The second
thing to get to is was the woman in the
middle of the road holding the Bible verse sign when you.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Arrived to work today? No, she was not okay.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
There was a woman in the middle of the crosswalk.
I had a green light. I'm headed into the garage.
She's in the middle of the crosswalk in front of me,
so I stop. She's holding a big poster board that
says Isaiah forty one to ten. It was important enough
for her to risk her life, so I looked up
the Bible verse and it's a good one Isaiah forty
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one ten Old Testament stuff. So do not fear I
am with you. Do not be dismayed, for I am
your God. I will strengthen you and help you. Basically,
don't fear. God's with you all the time. Don't worry
about that anxiety. Don't worry about that fear. God is
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You are not alone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So I thought that that was a pretty good message
to risk your life for, right out of the gate
here in Burbank in the eight o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, if any part of this town needs it, it's Burbank.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh yeah, Well the fire, Oh you know, there was
the fire. There was augh fire.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then the third piece of housekeeping I wanted to
get to before I forgot was good news for you.
Six of BTS's seven members have completed their mandatory military
service in South Korea, so the reunion is upon us.
The seventh member is lady to finish June twenty first,
and then the boys are back.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The boys are back, good, because I have tickets to
something of Theirs. Do you a show of Theirs?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Did?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Did they already have a schedule out?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
They've been planning this for a long time. Okay, we're
good at that. But aren't you excited? No?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Uh, you thought I would be used to all be
all about bts.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Listen, I've had the life wrenched out of me in
the first nine minutes of this show.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm a I'm a whull of my former self, a shell.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
If really so me? Having you smell my pants, yeah,
ruined you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Listen, there are going to be a lot of questions
from a lot of people about what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Amy King smelled my pants too. I also had Amy
King smell my pants, right. She was also smell like
China to me. Forced into she was forced into the
labor Yeah, labor. A little traumatized, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I apologize to you as well. Amy, I'm sorry, but
your red pumps are just the bomb. Ya start telling
people to smell your shoes. I'm out. Just to be clear,
I'm out.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew
for downtown Los Angeles. So my message to you is,
if you do not live or work in downtown LA,
avoid the area. Law enforcement will arrest in the visuals
who break the curfew, and you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Will be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, I'm curious as to what it was that forced
her hand on that. Why would we wait until Tuesday,
of all days to do this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think it's because what we saw. I heard Mo
talking about it the other night. You know, the sun
goes down and the people that remain are not there
to protest anything of any substance. Sure they are the
people there to cause harm, the people there for no good.
The people there don't alute all the violence, all the
things that are not peace full protest that the country
was built on. I don't know why she waited so long,
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other than that has been the approach for Los Angeles
in recent years when it comes to protest, whether it's
the police response or otherwise, they give it a breathing room.
They give it breathing room, They give it a moment
to live its life before they come in. That's why
you saw the LAPD hold off a bit. They let
things get a little crazy, and then they move in.
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They're not going to show up right away. They're not
going to make it look like a police state where
no one can protest as Americans. They give it a little,
they give it a minute, and that's what happened with
the curfew.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They gave it a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Should they have put it in the night before, yes,
but they gave it a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There were several arrests last night at the right after
eight o'clock when the curfew started. Things were very quiet
overnight because of that, and then at six am that
specific area around downtown was reopened for people. If you
live there, you're not subject to the curfew. Obviously you
can go home and if you work and things like that.
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But basically it was an attempt to get those kinds
of people out of the downtown core so that they
could not continue to do damage.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I loved this article I read this morning in the
Wall Street Journal about Gavin Newsom leaning into this. It
led me to get to the next topic. The first topic,
obviously is the protest. What's going on right now? Where's
the looting? Is there violence? How are we responding? But
the second story is who benefits from this and who
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benefits more Trump. A lot of people would argue that
Trump wants to make a spectacle of Los Angeles for
his own political gain which will turn into financial gain
or Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom has a lot to benefit
from being the name and the voice and the face
behind the resistance.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's interesting because that was the mantle that Kamala Harris
was trying to wear during the campaign, right, is that
she was going to be the face of anti Trump.
She was going to be the one that ran against
everything that he stood for. And whether it was her
personality that fell flat, her position as a campaigner that
fell flat, her ideals that just didn't support what everybody
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wanted that fell flat, She didn't materialize.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
She was not the face of the opposition. And well,
and that's the thing. It was weak stream with Kamala Harris.
It has been week stream with Gavenusom, especially once you
get outside of California. What kind of gravitas, what kind
of muscle does he have outside of California with the
Democratic Party?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is his chance.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's kind of a make or break moment for Gavenusom
if he can show he's not weak stream, that he
has the balls to put behind this resistance to the administration.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It is the way he's going to run for president.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
If he fails, if he comes out week stream, you're done.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Stick of forking them. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They referred to that address last night as a national
address from gavenusom.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We're no longer any checks and balances. Congress is nowhere
to be found. Speaker Johnson has completely abdicated that responsibility.
The rule of law has increasingly been given way to
the rule.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Of don we'll talk more about his speech and leaning
into this leader of the opposition role that he's taken on.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But when we come back, Trump threatening anybody who protests
his military slash birthday parade this weekend with very big force,
we'll talk about what that means.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So the President this weekend is going to oversee military
parade planned for Washington, d C. To celebrate the army's
two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and in remarks from the
Oval Office before he left for North Carolina yesterday, he
said it's going to be an amazing day, saying that
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any demonstrators would be met with would be met with
big force, and if.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
There's any protester wants to come out, they won't be
met with very big force.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That is a problem because you can protest in this
country well all the time, whenever you want. You can protest,
what it is, what the country was built on. Yes,
if it gets violent, that is one thing. That is
a definite difference.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's a line. That's a line.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But in terms of any protesters will be met with
big force, that's a problem in this country. If this
is not North Korea the last time I checked.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The good thing is, I mean the difference between what
he's saying and what the reality is on the ground
in an instance like that. I understand he doesn't have
control over DC Metropolitan Police Department, who would likely be
the ones handling security around a parade.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, but I want us to move out of the
what he says and what he means world of speaking,
because we've been doing that for ten years. For the
President of the United States to say that any protests
would be met with big force is a problem and
should be fixed or altered or tweaked. Somebody should go
out there and be like what he meant was if
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there's violence and it will be met with big force.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So then they're doing the same thing that we are
trying to sure but.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Then they're doing it because they're officially his mouthpiece.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They said that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Obviously he was talking in the context of what we've
seen here in LA over the last couple of nights.
By the way, those protests have spread to other cities.
In many cases they're small gatherings, but that there have
been arrests in places like Seattle and San Francisco and
San Antonio. The remarks he said. When he said those remarks,
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he was in the Oval office. As I mentioned, he
was on his way to Fort Bragg for yesterday's big ceremony.
There are protests that have been planned for Saturday for
June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We've talked about it. We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
The No King's Day Nationwide Day of Defiance has been
put to put together by a bunch of progressive groups.
They said originally this they were planned before anything up
and here in La. Said that they were intended to
draw attention away from the president and to reject corrupt
authoritarian politics in the United States. They have opted against
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an event in Washington. By the way, at least the
groups that we're putting together the No King's Nationwide Day
of Defiance said they're not even going to bother with DC. Interesting,
listen to me, shows a certain amount of intelligence, Like, hey,
you have the opportunity to do what you plan, which
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is to create what's the word diversion to draw attention away.
You don't have to do it by getting into a
fight with d C Metro police on the streets of Washington.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So that's not what they're saying they're doing. If you're protesting,
doesn't mean getting into a fight with DC Metro police.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But the problem with these types of organizations now is
they have lost the ability to control the people who
do come in and corrupt their.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Messaging.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I hated that protest with the women and the hats.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm not even going to get into the name of it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It was awful, but like that was a very large
protest to show opposition to Trump that did not get
violent in my memory.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For the most part. It was peaceful and it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Was a showing. And I don't think there's anything wrong
with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with protesters,
no matter what organization there are showing. There's as long
as there's been a presidential address in this country, there's
been a protester protesting it, no matter what. I don't
have a problem with that. I have a problem with
Trump saying no protesting at all. At my birthday party
or else you know there's going to be heavy force.
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That just that sounds like another country to me. And
to me, the fact that these protesters or the No
Kings people say that there's not going to be an
effort in DC, to me, what that says is that
they don't have anybody signing up for this thing in
great numbers, so they don't want to appear to be
disorganized and weak, and that to me shows intelligence. You
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don't want to say we're going to protest his birthday
party and then show up with twenty five people. You
want it to be the one hundred thousand in strength
type of thing. And if they don't have the people
on the roles saying we're going to show up, then
then of course you're going to scrap plans.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
There's also about this parade.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There is something interesting going on because of the way
the media has already said they're going to cover it.
For example, ABC News is going to do it on
their streaming service, the twenty four to seven streaming news channel.
NBC is going to do special coverage on NBC's news Now,
which is also their streaming outlet, and CBS. These are
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the three major networks are going to cover the parade,
but they're going to do so on their streaming networks.
They're not breaking into regular programming, They're not doing any
sort of special programming in order to do it. Part
of the reason is it's Saturday afternoon. They make tons
of money on sporting events on Saturday and Sunday afternoons,
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so this is not going to rise to the level
of getting the coverage from those major networks.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I will say that with Trump, in terms of his
reaction to protesters, Mark Esper was really the guy that
kind of was like, all right, let's just pump the
brakes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
When it comes to the use of military for any
sort of law.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Law enforcement is exactly anathema to what we believe in, right,
And I don't know if Trump has that same mentality.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, from what I've read, all the people the Mark
Espers in the room have been shown the door, right,
so there's nobody left to be like, hey, you can't
really shoot These people are like, hey.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He can't really has said the military into Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, and that's part of the court fight that Gavin
Newsom has now instigated with the administration is to try
to figure out what can the president do when it
comes to National Guard.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We're calling in the Marines and we'll talk a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
About that update, about where that case now stands and
what the future holds. Maybe there's a decision of some
kind later today.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well Newsom've got a little puppy slap yesterday afternoon, but
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Do you think when you retire you're going to go
to day games a lot?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I do think I would too.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I have become spoiled because there are times when we
have the opportunity to go, for example, to the suite
and watch a game there, and that's always fun. It
allows a little more socialization during a game. If I'm
sitting down on the field, I don't like to talk.
I don't either, so it's a different experience for me.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Will we take a listener to the suite for an
award or an auction winning item or something. It's for
me not going to a ballgame. It is socialization with
a ballgame in the background. I want to watch baseball.
I want to not talk. I want to hear the crowd.
I want to watch the game. I want to feel
the sun, see the grass, hear the bat, hear the ball,
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the whole bit.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Don't talk to me. Yeah, I totally agree. That's the
beauty of baseball.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That's what's and it's a football.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I go to hear loudness and swearing and feel the
testosterone in my veins. Baseball I go for peace and serenity.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Broken up by bursts of activity.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, little little, little little heart heart rate rises.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Football. It's just three and a half hours constant. There.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You get about a twenty minute break in the middle,
but other than that, it's just hard charging the entire time.
One of the other issues that's going on is the
Trump administration. At least according to documents obtained by Politico
and a report in The Washington Post, the administration is
planning to dramatically ramp up the use of Guantanamo Bay
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once again. They said that they could starting this week,
transfer at least nine thousand people undocumented migrants to Guantanamo Bay.
That would be an exponential increase from the five hundred
or so who have been held there off and on
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since February. Of course, President Trump had announced in January
that he wanted to blow the dust off the old
GITMO and get some get that thing used again.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The official reason is to free up bedspace at detention
facilities on domestic American soil, but to use this facility,
which would also send another signal aim it's just doubling
and tripling down on deterring illegal immigration to the US.
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You come here, you're caught. We're going to throw you
in Guantanamo Bay like a tearst.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's the Yeah, that's the images that are going to
be going to be talked about. They're about eight hundred
Europeans that are being considered for these transfers through Guantanamo Bay.
They're not going to stay there, but this is a
place for them to reside until they can be taken
either to their country of origin or to some other US.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Diplomats are raising and waving their hands going wait a minute,
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Most European countries are allies.
The fact that we're going to take these people and
throw them in Guantanamo Bay. What kind of message does
that send the people who have signed up to do
battle with US?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Essentially, Yeah, friendly European nations think and the majority I
would assume the majority of the people from places like Britain, Italy, France, Germany.
Those people are not people who are smuggled into the
country in the back of a U haul van across
the Rio Grande. These are people who come here on
travel visas or student visas or work visas and overstay
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their trup.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They're still illegal, They're still here illegal. This is ridiculous.
This is a different kind of enforcement that they're looking at.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And the idea that they're going to ramp up these
transfers to get MO is going to cause some feathers
to be ruffled amongst our allies taking.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
A hard line approach like they have been.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And I go back to Tom Holman's interview with John
on Monday, where John said, essentially, you're not coming into
the house and taking the nannies and the gardeners, are
you and let people know kind of a line of questioning,
and Tom Holman's like, no.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
If you're here illegally, you have a problem. We'll give
you money.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We'll give you a thousand dollars whatever to get you
back home, but then you've got to stand in line,
go through all the paperwork, and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But if you're here illegally for whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Reason, student visa lapse, nanny been here for ten years,
got a couple of grant, you've got a problem. I mean,
it's a very hard line approach, considering that we have
let this immigration issue fester forever. I mean, how long
have you been hit over the head with the term
comprehensive immigration reform, but yet nothing really has been done.
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I mean it's been piecemeal solution here and there, and
then all of a sudden, To take this hardline approach
when the toothpaste is already out of the tube is
going to be met with severe, severe.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Pushback, and we're seeing it and played out on our
streets right now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
All right. A lot of times your inbox is way too.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Full and you try to unsubscribe. In fact, just last week,
I think you were lamenting the fact that you unsubscribe.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I said it last week to you, I said, I.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Unsubscribe. I've said it numerous times. I love I'll sit
here and go on my phone. I'll be like, I
love unsubscribing from things.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It feels so good. I'm like cleaning house. And then
I say, you do last week I go, huh, all
this unsubscribing I do? I keep getting like it's like
it's like you cut off one head, three other heads
pop up exactly and this is proof that that's exactly
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We'll do that, we come back.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (20:07):
We are always flooded with emails every single day, one hundreds,
couple thousand emails, depending on what you do for work.
There are times when it feels like it's under season.
You go through and you try to clean up what
you did in terms of subscribing to emails, whether you
meant to or didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And almost all.
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Of those, especially the commercial emails you get from makeup
companies or clothing companies or Amazon products that you buy,
there's a link down at the bottom that says you
can unsubscribe, or maybe it's managed your email choices. There
is concern that those unsubscribed links maybe taking advantage of how.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Trustworthy you are.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The lowest risk is that somebody has acquired your email
address and they're simply trying to see if you are
a live person. And the best way to do that
is to make you try to unsubscribe for something that awful.
That's awful, and then they, just like you said, end
up selling your live email address to somebody else, and
then you get more and more of this junk email
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and jastards.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Wasn't this legal action at some point where they put
that it was a legal uh settlement where they have
to put unsubscribe in these pitch emails much like the
spam calling call it, do not call this exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Another risk, they say the associated with unsubscribed links is
that they send you to a fake but authentic looking
web page and ask you not only to put in
your email address, but maybe even the password that you
use for that site, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Anytime I click unsubscribe and then they say enter your
email address to unsubscribe, I X out of that because
I felt like that was enough of a trap.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The other thing is they say, if you start, if
you click on the unsubscribed link that's in the body
of the email, that might not even take you to
an unsubscribed not even a fake page. It just automatically
downloads about some malware to your computer gasters. So they
say the alternative option is your a lot of the
things that you used, if you use Outlook for your email,
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if you use your phone, if you use Apple, whatever
it is. There are a lot of times the the
list unsubscribe header that would be built into the button
a hyperlinked button in a mail service that doesn't appear
in the email itself. It's up on top, on the top.
Those are usually safe. Those are not very little risk
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to those.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Okay, good because those are my favorite because you don't
have to go hunting.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The other one is if that's not available and you
don't like the email out of a moving car, set
it on fire, set up a filter for the emails
that use that sender the one in question, and hopefully
it would send it straight on to spam, which then spam.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Your spam folder just gets choked up.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was watching that movie that I mistakenly went to
over the weekend that I thought was a different movie.
It turned out to be the Paul Rudd male friendship
dark comedy movie called Friendship, and at one point Paul
Rudd's character says, I don't I don't have a phone.
I have freedom, and I thought, damn, that sounds nice
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not having a phone. Nobody can get a hold of you,
hold into anything, you have to look at anything. You
don't have to respond to emails or texts or anything.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Hand it over. We'll see how you do for three hours. Well,
this is the freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, you gotta you gotta cut off the you gotta
cut off the addiction to the phone before you can
feel the freedom.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But how freeing does that sound? I remember when I
used to here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I remember when I used to travel, like internationally or whatever.
You had to pay extra, like ten dollars a day
to use your phone internationally, and I didn't want to
pay for that, so I just didn't have a phone
when i'd travel and thought, God, this is great.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I don't have a phone. I don't have you have
to answer, but you just feel lighter. Yeah, ah, so
not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Huh, you want my phone? See the problem with giving
you my phone is you know my password, and sometimes
you can't be trusted. That one time you breached my
trust and put a Facebook post on it was nine
years ago. Well I remember, I forgive you, but I
do remember, and you know my password, And what's to
stop you from doing that again?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know. We're going to break some news here,
oh Amy, you may have this. Brian Wilson from the
Beach Boys has passed away.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Ah, he had what did what was he dealing with?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I do not remember what he's all? I mean he
had a lot going on. There was a lot going
on there anyway, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Right up next the latest with the LA City Council
members going after the chief of police.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What are you doing? What can you do? What shouldn't
you do?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Michael Monks is going to join us. You've been listening
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app Number one. I'm really sorry for
having you smell my pants. I just it was overwhelming
to me that they smelled like China, and they because
they are new pants and I didn't wash them, and
I wanted you to know that that was the smell
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of my pants. It wasn't just me. It all didn't
come out right. And I feel awful about it about
forcing you to smell my pants.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And I'm sorry. I don't even know where to begin with.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, I have other things to get to, one of
which is going to make you extremely happy. The second
thing to get to is was the woman in the
middle of the road holding the Bible verse sign when you.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Arrived to work today? No, she was not okay.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
There was a woman in the middle of the crosswalk.
I had a green light. I'm headed into the garage.
She's in the middle of the crosswalk in front of me,
so I stop. She's holding a big poster board that
says Isaiah forty one to ten. It was important enough
for her to risk her life, so I looked up
the Bible verse and it's a good one Isaiah forty
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one ten Old Testament stuff. So do not fear I
am with you. Do not be dismayed, for I am
your God. I will strengthen you and help you. Basically,
don't fear. God's with you all the time. Don't worry
about that anxiety. Don't worry about that fear. God is
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You are not alone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So I thought that that was a pretty good message
to risk your life for, right out of the gate
here in Burbank in the eight o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, if any part of this town needs it, it's Burbank.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh yeah, Well the fire, Oh you know, there was
the fire. There was augh fire.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then the third piece of housekeeping I wanted to
get to before I forgot was good news for you.
Six of BTS's seven members have completed their mandatory military
service in South Korea, so the reunion is upon us.
The seventh member is lady to finish June twenty first,
and then the boys are back.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The boys are back, good, because I have tickets to
something of Theirs. Do you a show of Theirs?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Did?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Did they already have a schedule out?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
They've been planning this for a long time. Okay, we're
good at that. But aren't you excited? No?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Uh, you thought I would be used to all be
all about bts.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Listen, I've had the life wrenched out of me in
the first nine minutes of this show.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm a I'm a whull of my former self, a shell.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
If really so me? Having you smell my pants, yeah,
ruined you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Listen, there are going to be a lot of questions
from a lot of people about what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Amy King smelled my pants too. I also had Amy
King smell my pants, right. She was also smell like
China to me. Forced into she was forced into the
labor Yeah, labor. A little traumatized, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I apologize to you as well. Amy, I'm sorry, but
your red pumps are just the bomb. Ya start telling
people to smell your shoes. I'm out. Just to be clear,
I'm out.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew
for downtown Los Angeles. So my message to you is,
if you do not live or work in downtown LA,
avoid the area. Law enforcement will arrest in the visuals
who break the curfew, and you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Will be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, I'm curious as to what it was that forced
her hand on that. Why would we wait until Tuesday,
of all days to do this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think it's because what we saw. I heard Mo
talking about it the other night. You know, the sun
goes down and the people that remain are not there
to protest anything of any substance. Sure they are the
people there to cause harm, the people there for no good.
The people there don't alute all the violence, all the
things that are not peace full protest that the country
was built on. I don't know why she waited so long,
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other than that has been the approach for Los Angeles
in recent years when it comes to protest, whether it's
the police response or otherwise, they give it a breathing room.
They give it breathing room, They give it a moment
to live its life before they come in. That's why
you saw the LAPD hold off a bit. They let
things get a little crazy, and then they move in.
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They're not going to show up right away. They're not
going to make it look like a police state where
no one can protest as Americans. They give it a little,
they give it a minute, and that's what happened with
the curfew.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They gave it a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Should they have put it in the night before, yes,
but they gave it a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There were several arrests last night at the right after
eight o'clock when the curfew started. Things were very quiet
overnight because of that, and then at six am that
specific area around downtown was reopened for people. If you
live there, you're not subject to the curfew. Obviously you
can go home and if you work and things like that.
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But basically it was an attempt to get those kinds
of people out of the downtown core so that they
could not continue to do damage.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I loved this article I read this morning in the
Wall Street Journal about Gavin Newsom leaning into this. It
led me to get to the next topic. The first topic,
obviously is the protest. What's going on right now? Where's
the looting? Is there violence? How are we responding? But
the second story is who benefits from this and who
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benefits more Trump. A lot of people would argue that
Trump wants to make a spectacle of Los Angeles for
his own political gain which will turn into financial gain
or Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom has a lot to benefit
from being the name and the voice and the face
behind the resistance.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's interesting because that was the mantle that Kamala Harris
was trying to wear during the campaign, right, is that
she was going to be the face of anti Trump.
She was going to be the one that ran against
everything that he stood for. And whether it was her
personality that fell flat, her position as a campaigner that
fell flat, her ideals that just didn't support what everybody
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wanted that fell flat, She didn't materialize.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
She was not the face of the opposition. And well,
and that's the thing. It was weak stream with Kamala Harris.
It has been week stream with Gavenusom, especially once you
get outside of California. What kind of gravitas, what kind
of muscle does he have outside of California with the
Democratic Party?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is his chance.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's kind of a make or break moment for Gavenusom
if he can show he's not weak stream, that he
has the balls to put behind this resistance to the administration.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It is the way he's going to run for president.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
If he fails, if he comes out week stream, you're done.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Stick of forking them. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They referred to that address last night as a national
address from gavenusom.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We're no longer any checks and balances. Congress is nowhere
to be found. Speaker Johnson has completely abdicated that responsibility.
The rule of law has increasingly been given way to
the rule.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Of don we'll talk more about his speech and leaning
into this leader of the opposition role that he's taken on.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But when we come back, Trump threatening anybody who protests
his military slash birthday parade this weekend with very big force,
we'll talk about what that means.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So the President this weekend is going to oversee military
parade planned for Washington, d C. To celebrate the army's
two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and in remarks from the
Oval Office before he left for North Carolina yesterday, he
said it's going to be an amazing day, saying that
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any demonstrators would be met with would be met with
big force, and if.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
There's any protester wants to come out, they won't be
met with very big force.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That is a problem because you can protest in this
country well all the time, whenever you want. You can protest,
what it is, what the country was built on. Yes,
if it gets violent, that is one thing. That is
a definite difference.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's a line. That's a line.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But in terms of any protesters will be met with
big force, that's a problem in this country. If this
is not North Korea the last time I checked.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The good thing is, I mean the difference between what
he's saying and what the reality is on the ground
in an instance like that. I understand he doesn't have
control over DC Metropolitan Police Department, who would likely be
the ones handling security around a parade.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, but I want us to move out of the
what he says and what he means world of speaking,
because we've been doing that for ten years. For the
President of the United States to say that any protests
would be met with big force is a problem and
should be fixed or altered or tweaked. Somebody should go
out there and be like what he meant was if
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there's violence and it will be met with big force.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So then they're doing the same thing that we are
trying to sure but.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Then they're doing it because they're officially his mouthpiece.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They said that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Obviously he was talking in the context of what we've
seen here in LA over the last couple of nights.
By the way, those protests have spread to other cities.
In many cases they're small gatherings, but that there have
been arrests in places like Seattle and San Francisco and
San Antonio. The remarks he said. When he said those remarks,
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he was in the Oval office. As I mentioned, he
was on his way to Fort Bragg for yesterday's big ceremony.
There are protests that have been planned for Saturday for
June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We've talked about it. We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
The No King's Day Nationwide Day of Defiance has been
put to put together by a bunch of progressive groups.
They said originally this they were planned before anything up
and here in La. Said that they were intended to
draw attention away from the president and to reject corrupt
authoritarian politics in the United States. They have opted against
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an event in Washington. By the way, at least the
groups that we're putting together the No King's Nationwide Day
of Defiance said they're not even going to bother with DC. Interesting,
listen to me, shows a certain amount of intelligence, Like, hey,
you have the opportunity to do what you plan, which
(10:32):
is to create what's the word diversion to draw attention away.
You don't have to do it by getting into a
fight with d C Metro police on the streets of Washington.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So that's not what they're saying they're doing. If you're protesting,
doesn't mean getting into a fight with DC Metro police.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But the problem with these types of organizations now is
they have lost the ability to control the people who
do come in and corrupt their.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Messaging.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I hated that protest with the women and the hats.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm not even going to get into the name of it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It was awful, but like that was a very large
protest to show opposition to Trump that did not get
violent in my memory.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For the most part. It was peaceful and it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Was a showing. And I don't think there's anything wrong
with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with protesters,
no matter what organization there are showing. There's as long
as there's been a presidential address in this country, there's
been a protester protesting it, no matter what. I don't
have a problem with that. I have a problem with
Trump saying no protesting at all. At my birthday party
or else you know there's going to be heavy force.
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That just that sounds like another country to me. And
to me, the fact that these protesters or the No
Kings people say that there's not going to be an
effort in DC, to me, what that says is that
they don't have anybody signing up for this thing in
great numbers, so they don't want to appear to be
disorganized and weak, and that to me shows intelligence. You
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don't want to say we're going to protest his birthday
party and then show up with twenty five people. You
want it to be the one hundred thousand in strength
type of thing. And if they don't have the people
on the roles saying we're going to show up, then
then of course you're going to scrap plans.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
There's also about this parade.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There is something interesting going on because of the way
the media has already said they're going to cover it.
For example, ABC News is going to do it on
their streaming service, the twenty four to seven streaming news channel.
NBC is going to do special coverage on NBC's news Now,
which is also their streaming outlet, and CBS. These are
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the three major networks are going to cover the parade,
but they're going to do so on their streaming networks.
They're not breaking into regular programming, They're not doing any
sort of special programming in order to do it. Part
of the reason is it's Saturday afternoon. They make tons
of money on sporting events on Saturday and Sunday afternoons,
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so this is not going to rise to the level
of getting the coverage from those major networks.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I will say that with Trump, in terms of his
reaction to protesters, Mark Esper was really the guy that
kind of was like, all right, let's just pump the
brakes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
When it comes to the use of military for any
sort of law.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Law enforcement is exactly anathema to what we believe in, right,
And I don't know if Trump has that same mentality.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, from what I've read, all the people the Mark
Espers in the room have been shown the door, right,
so there's nobody left to be like, hey, you can't
really shoot These people are like, hey.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He can't really has said the military into Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, and that's part of the court fight that Gavin
Newsom has now instigated with the administration is to try
to figure out what can the president do when it
comes to National Guard.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We're calling in the Marines and we'll talk a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
About that update, about where that case now stands and
what the future holds. Maybe there's a decision of some
kind later today.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well Newsom've got a little puppy slap yesterday afternoon, but
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Do you think when you retire you're going to go
to day games a lot?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I do think I would too.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I have become spoiled because there are times when we
have the opportunity to go, for example, to the suite
and watch a game there, and that's always fun. It
allows a little more socialization during a game. If I'm
sitting down on the field, I don't like to talk.
I don't either, so it's a different experience for me.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Will we take a listener to the suite for an
award or an auction winning item or something. It's for
me not going to a ballgame. It is socialization with
a ballgame in the background. I want to watch baseball.
I want to not talk. I want to hear the crowd.
I want to watch the game. I want to feel
the sun, see the grass, hear the bat, hear the ball,
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the whole bit.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Don't talk to me. Yeah, I totally agree. That's the
beauty of baseball.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That's what's and it's a football.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I go to hear loudness and swearing and feel the
testosterone in my veins. Baseball I go for peace and serenity.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Broken up by bursts of activity.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, little little, little little heart heart rate rises.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Football. It's just three and a half hours constant. There.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You get about a twenty minute break in the middle,
but other than that, it's just hard charging the entire time.
One of the other issues that's going on is the
Trump administration. At least according to documents obtained by Politico
and a report in The Washington Post, the administration is
planning to dramatically ramp up the use of Guantanamo Bay
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once again. They said that they could starting this week,
transfer at least nine thousand people undocumented migrants to Guantanamo Bay.
That would be an exponential increase from the five hundred
or so who have been held there off and on
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since February. Of course, President Trump had announced in January
that he wanted to blow the dust off the old
GITMO and get some get that thing used again.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The official reason is to free up bedspace at detention
facilities on domestic American soil, but to use this facility,
which would also send another signal aim it's just doubling
and tripling down on deterring illegal immigration to the US.
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You come here, you're caught. We're going to throw you
in Guantanamo Bay like a tearst.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's the Yeah, that's the images that are going to
be going to be talked about. They're about eight hundred
Europeans that are being considered for these transfers through Guantanamo Bay.
They're not going to stay there, but this is a
place for them to reside until they can be taken
either to their country of origin or to some other US.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Diplomats are raising and waving their hands going wait a minute,
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Most European countries are allies.
The fact that we're going to take these people and
throw them in Guantanamo Bay. What kind of message does
that send the people who have signed up to do
battle with US?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Essentially, Yeah, friendly European nations think and the majority I
would assume the majority of the people from places like Britain, Italy, France, Germany.
Those people are not people who are smuggled into the
country in the back of a U haul van across
the Rio Grande. These are people who come here on
travel visas or student visas or work visas and overstay
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their trup.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They're still illegal, They're still here illegal. This is ridiculous.
This is a different kind of enforcement that they're looking at.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And the idea that they're going to ramp up these
transfers to get MO is going to cause some feathers
to be ruffled amongst our allies taking.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
A hard line approach like they have been.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And I go back to Tom Holman's interview with John
on Monday, where John said, essentially, you're not coming into
the house and taking the nannies and the gardeners, are
you and let people know kind of a line of questioning,
and Tom Holman's like, no.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
If you're here illegally, you have a problem. We'll give
you money.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We'll give you a thousand dollars whatever to get you
back home, but then you've got to stand in line,
go through all the paperwork, and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But if you're here illegally for whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Reason, student visa lapse, nanny been here for ten years,
got a couple of grant, you've got a problem. I mean,
it's a very hard line approach, considering that we have
let this immigration issue fester forever. I mean, how long
have you been hit over the head with the term
comprehensive immigration reform, but yet nothing really has been done.
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I mean it's been piecemeal solution here and there, and
then all of a sudden, To take this hardline approach
when the toothpaste is already out of the tube is
going to be met with severe, severe.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Pushback, and we're seeing it and played out on our
streets right now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
All right. A lot of times your inbox is way too.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Full and you try to unsubscribe. In fact, just last week,
I think you were lamenting the fact that you unsubscribe.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I said it last week to you, I said, I.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Unsubscribe. I've said it numerous times. I love I'll sit
here and go on my phone. I'll be like, I
love unsubscribing from things.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It feels so good. I'm like cleaning house. And then
I say, you do last week I go, huh, all
this unsubscribing I do? I keep getting like it's like
it's like you cut off one head, three other heads
pop up exactly and this is proof that that's exactly
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We'll do that, we come back.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
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We are always flooded with emails every single day, one hundreds,
couple thousand emails, depending on what you do for work.
There are times when it feels like it's under season.
You go through and you try to clean up what
you did in terms of subscribing to emails, whether you
meant to or didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And almost all.
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Of those, especially the commercial emails you get from makeup
companies or clothing companies or Amazon products that you buy,
there's a link down at the bottom that says you
can unsubscribe, or maybe it's managed your email choices. There
is concern that those unsubscribed links maybe taking advantage of how.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Trustworthy you are.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The lowest risk is that somebody has acquired your email
address and they're simply trying to see if you are
a live person. And the best way to do that
is to make you try to unsubscribe for something that awful.
That's awful, and then they, just like you said, end
up selling your live email address to somebody else, and
then you get more and more of this junk email
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and jastards.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Wasn't this legal action at some point where they put
that it was a legal uh settlement where they have
to put unsubscribe in these pitch emails much like the
spam calling call it, do not call this exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Another risk, they say the associated with unsubscribed links is
that they send you to a fake but authentic looking
web page and ask you not only to put in
your email address, but maybe even the password that you
use for that site, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Anytime I click unsubscribe and then they say enter your
email address to unsubscribe, I X out of that because
I felt like that was enough of a trap.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The other thing is they say, if you start, if
you click on the unsubscribed link that's in the body
of the email, that might not even take you to
an unsubscribed not even a fake page. It just automatically
downloads about some malware to your computer gasters. So they
say the alternative option is your a lot of the
things that you used, if you use Outlook for your email,
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if you use your phone, if you use Apple, whatever
it is. There are a lot of times the the
list unsubscribe header that would be built into the button
a hyperlinked button in a mail service that doesn't appear
in the email itself. It's up on top, on the top.
Those are usually safe. Those are not very little risk
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to those.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Okay, good because those are my favorite because you don't
have to go hunting.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The other one is if that's not available and you
don't like the email out of a moving car, set
it on fire, set up a filter for the emails
that use that sender the one in question, and hopefully
it would send it straight on to spam, which then spam.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Your spam folder just gets choked up.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was watching that movie that I mistakenly went to
over the weekend that I thought was a different movie.
It turned out to be the Paul Rudd male friendship
dark comedy movie called Friendship, and at one point Paul
Rudd's character says, I don't I don't have a phone.
I have freedom, and I thought, damn, that sounds nice
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not having a phone. Nobody can get a hold of you,
hold into anything, you have to look at anything. You
don't have to respond to emails or texts or anything.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Hand it over. We'll see how you do for three hours. Well,
this is the freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, you gotta you gotta cut off the you gotta
cut off the addiction to the phone before you can
feel the freedom.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But how freeing does that sound? I remember when I
used to here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I remember when I used to travel, like internationally or whatever.
You had to pay extra, like ten dollars a day
to use your phone internationally, and I didn't want to
pay for that, so I just didn't have a phone
when i'd travel and thought, God, this is great.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I don't have a phone. I don't have you have
to answer, but you just feel lighter. Yeah, ah, so
not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Huh, you want my phone? See the problem with giving
you my phone is you know my password, and sometimes
you can't be trusted. That one time you breached my
trust and put a Facebook post on it was nine
years ago. Well I remember, I forgive you, but I
do remember, and you know my password, And what's to
stop you from doing that again?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know. We're going to break some news here,
oh Amy, you may have this. Brian Wilson from the
Beach Boys has passed away.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Ah, he had what did what was he dealing with?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I do not remember what he's all? I mean he
had a lot going on. There was a lot going
on there anyway, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Right up next the latest with the LA City Council
members going after the chief of police.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What are you doing? What can you do? What shouldn't
you do?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.