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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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give feedback? If you're getting feedback from a boss? What
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do you think the best time of day for feedback is?
Elmer time? Just before bed? Just before bed? Yeah, are
you guys still doing your thing at about ten forty
five pm?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I do feel a sense a bit about that time.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do you reach out your essence? Elmer? H?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, I'm kind of receiving the essence.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ah, you're receiving the essence. So you're both for me
because you're That's not how it goes. Good Lord. We
have strange signs coming up late later in the show. Today.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It feels good to laugh, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So we will. We'll talk about some crazy stuff, including
humpback whales that are trying to communicate with us, and
we're so dumb we can't even communicate with the whales.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I have a guess of what they're saying. You know, Uh,
you're blowing it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, So The fight between Donald Trump and Gavin Newsom continues, and.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's getting.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Very reality television esque, just like both of them probably
would prefer. The latest is that Gavin Newsom is hitting
Donald Trump with the president's mental acuity or lack thereof.
If you have Gavin, ask Gavin Newsom. The two obviously
have squared off over the federalization, the deployment of the
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National Guard to California for these protests. There was an
episode of The Daily Podcast popular podcast that was posted
yesterday today Excuse Me this Morning, and Gavin Newsom in
this episode gave a play by play of his conversations
with Trump last weekend. The two have different conflicting accounts
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of these conversations.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I guess you could say down to the timeline too right.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yes, they had a Saturday morning discussion, both say in
which Trump purports to have brought up the National Guard.
But Newsom says that that account of the conversation is false.
He said on the New York Times podcast The Daily Today,
he lied on my mother and dad's grave. I don't
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mess around when I say this. He lied, stone cold liar.
Once Trump began fabricating parts of their conversation on Saturday.
Newsom says it started to disturb me on a different
level that maybe he actually believed he said some of
those things, Governor Newsom saying he's not all there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh oh, okay, now they're trying that tactic.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
In fact, he doubled down on he said, Trump is
not the same person I dealt with just four years ago.
He's incapable now of even a train of thought. He's
making things up, taking a page from the playbook of a.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Republican Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So the President we mentioned did this event this morning
at the White House where he signed into law the
band that does away with the California ev mandate electrical
vehicle mandate. And obviously this was one of the first
questions that came up about this tet a tet between
he and Gavin Newsom and he today also just a short,
you know, half hour, forty five minutes ago, talked about
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that phone call. Now to kind of rewind a couple
of days ago at the White House, the President was asked,
when was the last time you spoke with Gavenus, When
was the last time you spoke with governors?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
A day ago called him up to tell him kind
of do a better job.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
He's doing a bad job. Okay, Now again, that I
think was Tuesday. He says that he the President said
he spoke with him a day ago, which would have
been either Monday, maybe if you want to stretch that,
you could say Sunday. Gavin Newsom says that phone call
never took place. Then Donald Trump comes out with a
screenshot that shows that he did speak with Governor Newsom,
but it was ten thirty or eleven thirty Friday night,
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and that they did speak for about fifteen sixteen minutes.
So the President today reiterated that they did, in fact
speak on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I actually made a call, didn't pick up.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I called him a second time and he picked up,
and I told him, I said, you have to get
your ass in gear because you're gonna have a problem there.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think the conversation went something like this, Hey, Gav,
Hey dt oh man, Gav, you're loving this. Do you
see what I'm doing for you? You see what I'm
doing for your political future? You see how I'm setting
you up here? And Gov's like, yeah, you're making me
look bad on this protest thing you're looking about at
the National Guard. We don't need the National Guard. But yeah,
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I'm ready to square off. Trump's like, we got to
do better. You gotta do better. Looks bad, looks bad
out there, But look at what I'm doing for you.
I mean, honestly, you're talking about two people with egos
the size of Texas. There's got to be what's in
it for us part of the conversation. It's not just
logistics in the National Guard and any sort of fighting.
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These are two people who, by the way, don't like confrontation.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They like people to like them, which.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Is okay to theorize here, what would be the best
option for them? I think that someone whichever side wants
to do this, I don't care. Someone comes out and
says I'm available every night seven thirty. You call me.
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I'll talk to you and we'll just go through the
course of what happened today, what the progress looks like.
How do we make sure that this doesn't escalate any
more than it already has. How do we get closer
to a peaceful resolution for the every day seven get
these two.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Guys on the horny do care about those things?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's what I'm saying. They're going to lose so much
support over these things. Yeah, there are people on that
side that want this, and there are people on that
side that want that, But you're losing so much lighter
the middle on all of this.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I respectfully disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think Trump and Newsome have gained admiration for their
respective roles in this in the past week. I bet
Gavin Newsom's approval ratings have gone up by maybe eight
or nine points. Same thing with Donald Trump. Each supporters
love this fight. Each guy's supporters love this fight.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But then there's the people in the middle who are like,
when can we get back to work? Right?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They don't have a microphone, or maybe they do, and
they just get crapped on all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Raising that out I.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Think is the better version. So this federal court hearing today,
we'll talk about what is at stake. And you mentioned Rocanna.
Congressman Rocanna talked with Pete Hegseth about this today in
a congressional hearing, and Pete Hegseth gave an answer that's
probably not the greatest answer he could have gone for.
We'll talk about that still. And you mentioned the governor
in that podcast today. The governor invoked his daughter in
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terms of having emotions about all of this, and we'll
explain why bringing your kids into politics is weak.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Also, we could do an entire show on the emotions
of teenage girls.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Come on point.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
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Speaker 3 (07:45):
Footage from training camp. He looks about five hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Woh no, my goodness, you're fat shaming too.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You're right, he doesn't look five hundred pounds. He looks
like he's put on substantial weight. However in the off season.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like like three hundred pounds. We will continue the updates
out of India. There's not a lot of new stuff
in the last hour or so, but there have been
not just the people on board in Air India flight
that crashed in Ahmedabad that have been killed in the crash,
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but there were several people on the ground, including medical
students who were in a college hostel when the plane
hit the building.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The story that you're going to hear more about forever
is the fact that there's a soul survivor in seat eleven,
a forty year old father married father there who was
traveling back I believed to home in London, and incredible
that somebody was able to walk off this flight.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And that's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He already did an interview with a local newspaper reporter there, saying,
I heard a loud bang thirty seconds into the flight.
I come to I see bodies everywhere. I start running.
Someone grabbed me, put me in an ambulance. Doctor has
checked him out. He's got some injuries, but I mean
he was able to walk away. Obviously he's out of danger,
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I think, were the words of the doctor. So we'll
stay on top of that ridiculous story there. But in
the meantime, like you mentioned, Defense Secretary Pete haigseeth today
whether he would respect any court's ruling. He was asked
if it put major limitations on National Guard troops and
marines in Los Angeles, and he declined to say, if
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you would respect the court's ruling.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
This is Congressman Rocanna talking with the Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
It shouldn't be Rocana's view of the Constitution. It shouldn't
be Secretary, heagsets. It should be the Supreme Court and
the federal courts. Can you assure the American people on
two things, you will respect any Supreme Court decision on
this matter about whether the Marines are constitutional, and you
will respect the district courts when they rule before the
Supreme Court rules.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
What I can say is we should not have local
judges determining foreign policy or national security policy for the country.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
So you're not willing to say you would respect those decisions.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
What I'm saying is local district judges shouldn't make foreign
policy for the night those times expire.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That is not the answer that he should have given.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I understand the mentality of a local federal judge, and
we've seen it countless times, especially with the Trump administration,
where they rule on national policy or executive order or
what have you. But the way that that question was
posed there it included the Supreme Court right. Pete Haig saith.
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I'm not in the business of telling people what they
should and should not do. But what would have been
a more palatable answer is, of course, we respect the
law of the land when it comes to what the
Supreme Court ruling is right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's how the country works well.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And remember the case, We'll.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Let it play out through the system. If a lower
court or a local federal judge decides something and we
disagree with it. We'll continue legal action to try to
get to the remedy that we see fit. I mean,
there's a million ways to answer that question, right without
sounding like your.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thumby naw knows that the judicial system entirely.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, that you're not held to account by the basic
checks and balances of our system of government. Yeah, so
the hearing today, By the way, A Gavin Newsom, of course,
and Attorney General Rob Bonta have sued the Trump administration
for deploying National Guard units to the streets of LA.
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For deploying US Marines to the streets of LA. They
may be there today, probably tomorrow. The Trump administration says
that this lawsuit was a crass political stunt that endangers
American lives. Yesterday, Gavin Newsom filed an emergency motion to
request the court's intervention. It wanted to have an immediate
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temporary restraining order so to clarify what happened yesterday. Of course,
the judge in this case, US District Judge Charles Bryer,
hasn't made a final ruling yet on whether the deployment
is legal if it infringes on the rights of California.
He just didn't issue that immediate emergency block yesterday. He
then scheduled the hearing for today to give the Trump
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administration time to formally respond to the lawsuit. That's what
that's what is playing out today is the specific hearing
taking place up in San Francisco. Here's ag Robbond.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
The order we are seeking would invalidate the unlawful deployment
of the National Guard to Los Angeles and ensure that
they're under the command of their actual commander in chief,
the California governor, Governor Gavin Newsom, and then I would
also restrict the Marines to appropriate.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So there's also a question about what happens. Okay, So
if Judge Brier in this case decides that President Trump
overstepped his bounds and deployed those troops, what do they
do they undeploy? Do they go back to the National
Guard base from whence they came? Do the Marines go
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back to Pendleton? Like there's some there's some mechanics of
it that haven't played out yet, and there's really never
been anything like this before. The whole idea of the
military involved in something like this. I'm talking specifically about
the Marine Corps. National Guard units have come in in
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times of civil unrest many times, but I rarely Well,
that's what I mean is I don't know. Would the
judge order them to go back and then say, but
my order is on hold as this plays out in
the courts or whatever, and it makes its way up
to I would assume the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think it would be up to another judge.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think if a judge made an order to send
them back or get rid of them, that would the
ball would be in motion at that point, and then
it would be up to the lawyers to take it
to another judge to issue some sort of stay or
what have you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I don't know, we'll see. I mean, it's one of
those things.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You're right, it's unprecedented, so at least the past sixty
years of a president overriding a governor saying we're sending
in the National Guard, and then the governor seeking legal
action to get them get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So it is happening in real time. And obviously if
we hear anything out of San Francisco, we we'll bring
it to you live all right.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Little side step, let's get it a side step. I
love a side step. Are we doing line dancing?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Today?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Is it two side steps or just one? When do
we drop back? When do we go forward? Did we
do a little shaky shape?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm awful at line dancing. That's not true. How do
you you've never seen the binding?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Do you know the electric slide?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You don't. No, Okay, I'm going to teach it to you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And I'm so uninterested in learning the electric slide.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know I would be worried if you were interested
in it, But I just feel like your hypothesis that
you're bad at line dancing is false.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
My style of dance is much It's much more free
flowing than you think. I mean, I don't want Nobody
wants this to be contained by simple, oversimplified choreography.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'm sorry you are.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Let it flow.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Nobody wants you to be caged.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I feel the art in me.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I know you do. I know you.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Sometimes I just gotta let it out. Well, good morning,
debor Mark, Well, good morning.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I would like to learn how to line dance and
do the electric slide?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Do you know how?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Not?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Really?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Were you all not alive for the nineties? How did
you escape the nineties without learning the electric slide?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I had children in the nineties, I mean, I had
late nineties, but I feel like it was it. I
had a job. What was I What were you doing
in this?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
What about the macarena? You all know that I used
to do that, but I kind of forgot. I know.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's all arms, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, I got all
of them.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well, there's a little shake at the end and then
you jump.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Don't ever do that again. Please never shake that in
this room again. You might have knocked something loose. Careful
with that thing. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
The Air India flight that crashed in India was on
its way, had just taken off and was destined for London.
At least two hundred and forty people killed on the
plane and several dozen others killed on the ground. Apparently
the plane after it took off, crashed into a college
hostel for a medical college. The Indian Home Minister confirmed
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that there was a single passenger who survived the crash,
and that the Home Minister actually met him at the hospital.
He was conscious. He was talking treated for a relatively
minor injuries considering he was in a plane. Crash the
seven eighty seven that went down. It's the first time
of Boeing seven eighty seven has ever been involved in
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an incident like.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
This, and hear a lot about that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
There is also a kew of the interviews for all
the morning shows Dancing with the Stars in a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
A Jet Blue flight from Chicago veered off the runway
at Boston today upon landing. This Jet Blue looks like
a pretty small airplane, actually rolled off the runway and
into the grass on the infield. No injuries, of course,
but the runway is now closed as they assess the
aircraft and get it out of the way.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This was a story that we didn't get to last week,
but it is not protest related, and we needed to
take a breath. Why do so many serial killers come
from the Pacific Northwest?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yes, a breath with killing.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, so you've got Ted Bundy, of course, Famous Lee
patrolling the area around SeaTac near the airport, Hillside Strangler,
Green River Killer.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You covered that case, the I five killer. A lot of.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It comes from the Pacific Northwest. And there's a new
book that just came out this week, an investigative book
from a woman, a Pulitzer Prize winning writer by the
way Caroline Fraser. It's called Murderland, Crime and Bloodlust in
the Time of serial Killers, and it talks about the
seventies and the eighties, and for lack of a better term,
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refers to it as America's golden age of serial killers
throughout the Pacific Northwest. She was just seven years old
and grew up mere miles away during Ted Bundy's nineteen
seventy four summer murder spree, and she explores in this
book the so called lead crime hypothesis led excuse me,
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lead crime hypothesis. Yes, lead stuff we used to lick
in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Poison our pencils, it was in our paint, it was
in our great gasoline.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Poisonous chemicals specifically lead, copper, and arsenic that leached into
the air from industrial companies.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It's it's interesting, but I'm every place was polluting with
that stuff on a very heavy scale in the sixties,
seventies and eighties.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Gary Ridgeway lived nearby Israel. Keys all lived near to Coma,
which she kind of centers around this industrial company ass
Asarco Asarco.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I'm not sure how to say it Sarco.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
They said, Asarco and Tacoma regularly released a cloud of
lead and arsenic that floated down as white ash and
killed pets. It eroded paint off cars. They said the
air was literally the color of lead, and the pungent
aroma of Tacoma lingers to this day. I've often wondered
what it is about Tacoma if I noticed that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, but I've always assumed that it was it had
something to do with the water me too. I mean
that it's Tacoba's built around the Puget Sound, or Puget
Sound flows around Tacoma. I just thought it was biological
in nature.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The effects of lead poisoning on children well documented, but
the casual link between lead and serial killers not so
much so. This is a book length argument for.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
That interesting and in all honesty, Caroline Fraser is I've
read excerpts of this book and the other one that
she did, Prairie Fires, I think is what it was called.
She's a great writer. I just don't know if there's
She's a great writer in that. I love her prose.
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I don't know if the research that goes into this
book is enough to convince me that there was an
environ mental factor for these sociopathic murderers.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think you just hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
For me, it could have been a factor, but there's
so many other factors.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
How people grew up, their.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Relationship with their father, the timeframe of the seventies and eighties,
and the ease of which the lifestyle was that allowed
you to pick people up on the street. When everyone
was traveling on the street with strangers, hitchhiking and the like.
It was a transient period in American history where you
trusted people, and yes, you did travel from town to
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town with strangers. Sometimes it was easy for that to
be a killing field. Also, the Pacific Northwest vibe when
it comes to the weather, there's a reason, wha, there's
more suicides up there.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's freaking depressing.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And to point to Gary Ridgeway again, this is the
guy who was the Green River killer. It points out
in the book. In nineteen sixty the annual led emissions
from the Tacoma smoke stack are estimated at two hundred
and twenty six tons. That's almost I mean, and that's
just shy of a ton a day, you know, two
thirds of a ton a day in the summer of
sixty one, Gary Ridgeway was twelve years old and wet
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the bed. He was described as slow and was even
held back a grade. Yeah. Gary Ridgeway then also went
on to work professionally as a truck painter, so he
was around noxious fumes when he was growing up and
then continued in an industry where even if you have
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the best air filtering systems around you, you are inhaling
pollutants on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Nonetheless, it looks like a great read for the reasons
that you laid out. She is a great writer, and
just from a literary perspective, and if you're into true crime.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Also a great read as well.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
But yeah, you know Ted Bundy, Hillside Strangler, Green River Killer, Nightstocker,
Charles Manson, John Wayne Dacy, Dennis Raider, BTK. All of
them had excessive exposures at some point in their lives
to arsenic or lead from pain or plumes.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The story from a couple of years ago. You remember
Tyler Skaggs, the young pitcher for the Angels, died of
a drug overdose.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You see your lead and you want to raise you pills.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we're getting more information I know it's a couple
of years old, but there's some new information about who
was supplying him with those drugs. We'll talk about it
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (23:38):
We're getting more details out of the crash from India
to London where more than two hundred and fifty people
were killed. Flight one seventy one. Wall Street Journal has
dug up some details of the final seconds.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
They say, within seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Of takeoff, it was clear that flight one seven to
one was in trouble.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
If you look at the footage, you can see it take.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Off and not really rise very far before it descends
slowly at least it looks like on the footage, and
then crashes into this medical college there in the flight path.
It was a Boeing seven eighty seven Dreamliner, the first
to crash ever since they rolled off the assembly lines
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in twenty eleven. Two hundred and forty two people on board,
strained to climb steamy midday heat, they say, barely cleared
the rooftops of the residential neighborhood just beyond the runway.
In a crowded Indian city, there may day call did
go out from the cockpit, but there were no There
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was no response to subsequent calls from air traffic control.
It took off about one forty local time, and it
slammed into that medical college, medical students still an accountant
for as you can imagine, the debris field quite large there,
with rest crews still searching in the rubble mom.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
They say that there was.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
One survivor, a forty year old married father of one
from London, and he gave his account pretty quickly to
a reporter that turned up at the hospital where he
says about thirty seconds and he hears a loud crash,
a bang. When he comes to he sees bodies everywhere
and he just took off running. Someone grabbed him, putting
him into an ambulance. But to survive a crash like
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that is just beyond incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noum is speaking here
in Los Angeles in front of from one of the
federal buildings. He's talking about the immigration rate protests that
have been going on over the last few days, among
other things. She said that there are a lot of
federal partners that were involved. She thanked everybody's service and
hard work out there. She also said that they are
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working specifically with the Internal Revenue Service and one of
the things that they are looking at is if there
is external funding coming in to pay for and pay
protesters that are out there on the streets that have
been causing problems the By the way, one of the
arrests that was announced, the FBI says they picked up
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a guy who was handing out gas masks, or not
gas masks, but those face shields that we talked about
a couple of days ago, or somebody pulled up in
an area full of protesters with a pickup truck and
they was handing out those clear face shields for people.
A couple new court filings have revealed some new details
about Tyler Skaggs. The former Angels pitcher, died of an
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overdose in twenty nineteen as the Angels were set to
take on the Texas Rangers. Of course, the team's former
communications director, a guy named Eric Kay, is serving twenty
two years in prison for his role in Tyler Skagg's death.
The filings all came from the wrongful death lawsuit the
Skaggs family fire against the Angels four years ago, seeking
(27:03):
a couple hundred million dollars in damages and among other things.
The Tyler Skagg's agent, a guy named Ryan Hamill, said
he started getting concerned about Tyler Skagg's drug use as
far back as twenty thirteen, six years before he died,
and he testified that he actually went to Tyler's family
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with those concerns and even confronted Tyler directly about his behavior.
He came clean, according to the agent. Again, this is
in these court documents and that he was getting them
through Wade Miley at the time. Wade Miley is still
playing baseball. Wade Miley just a little more than a
week ago re signed. He had been on a minor
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league contract with the Cincinnati Reds. On June fourth, he
re signed with Cincinnati on a major league contract, and
Wade Miley and Tyler Skaggs were on the Diamondbacks together,
which is where their initial relationship started. But a bunch
of this testimony came in in a filing that was
not meant to be public.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't love Ryan Hamill name dropping Wade Miley and all.
This just be accountable.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Why not if that, I mean, if Tyler Skaggs told him.
He's being asked in a deposition in the criminal I mean,
I'm assuming it was probably part of the criminal investigation
that they have included as part of the filings for
the civil lawsuit. But how do you not I mean,
if you're being asked about what he told you, where
you feel like a fifting blame, well, it's to me
(28:41):
it was showing that there is a much wider problem.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I mean, he's talking in this This is his agent, right,
Tyler Skagg's agent. Okay, his agent knew what was going
on and did nothing. So now six years for six years,
so now his agent's trying to name drop somebody else
who's a bigger name so that he escapes any sort
of so he's not.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The they don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
They go on to talk about all of these teammates
at the time, supposedly other players that were playing on
the Angels at the time, who were also getting percocet
and other drugs from Eric Kay. And again Eric Kay
is in jail twenty two years now, the former communications
director for the team. But that even Kay's family knew
(29:23):
that Eric Kay had a problem, and they said they
went to the Angels to tell them, hey, your comms
guy is crushing vicoden and percoset six seven, eight times
a day. We need to get him help. And if
the Angels didn't do anything about it, then then they're
going to be on the hook for the couple hundred
million dollars at least.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So yeah, that's the dirtiest guy in the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, and that's why he's spending a couple decades behind bars,
behind bars, gray Bar hotel, in jail, in.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Prison, doing time. That's a better one, doing time, swamp
watch when we come.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
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