June 27, 2025 • 29 mins
The Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order. How Israel pulled off audacious ‘Red Wedding’ and ‘Operation Narnia’ attacks on Iran.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The Supreme Court handed a major win to the administration
by allowing it to take steps to implement its proposal
to end automatic birthright citizenship. Now, the decision today, and
you'll he'll just repeat it over and over again, was
not about birthright citizenship. That happens to be the flavor
of the case that caused this question. But the question
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itself is whether or not district judges can issue nationwide
injunctions against executive orders that a president signs. And you
got to be careful because the headlines are obviously saying
this is a big win for Trump since he happens
to be the president. This same kind of a decision
would have helped Obama, it would have helped Biden, It
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would have helped George W. Bush because they also had
executive orders that were enjoined by nationwide injunctions against the
plans that they were doing. So a lot of sounds
to get to in all of this, and we'll start
with President Trump from just a few minutes ago at
the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So he was elected on a historic mandate, But in
recent months we've seen a handful of radical left judges
effectively try to overrule the rightful powers of the president
to stop the American people from getting the policies that
they voted for in record numbers. It was a grave
threat to democracy, frankly, and instead of merely ruling on
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the immediate cases before them, these judges have attempted to
dictate the law for the entire.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nation again six to three ruling, and it deals specifically
with the power that district judges have and how far
it extends this. You could say, one of the questions
for the president a short time ago was are you
concerned that this is going to give too much power
to the executive branch to the presidency. Obviously he doesn't
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think that that's a bad thing. He said right now
that the Constitution is more normalized this way, and this
is the way that the framers of the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Had it in mind.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And getting this in place now, according to the President,
gives him the ability to get some actual things done.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thanks to this decision, we can now promptly file to
proceed with numerous policies that have been wrongly enjoined on
a nationwide basis, and some of the cases we're talking
about would be ending birthright citizenship, which now comes to
the fore that was meant for the babies of slaves.
It wasn't meant for people trying to scam the system
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and come into the country on a vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So we'll hear from some of the people who do
this on a regular basis, lawyers, professors of law, etc.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Who look through all of this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Andrew McCarthy, editor in chief of the National Review, says,
this is a win for Trump, yes, but it's not
a win for birthright citizenship one way or the other.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I don't know that the triumphalism about the ultimate result
in the birthright citizenship case is warranted, because I think
they may very well lose that. But as far as
Trump moving his agenda, having judges no longer able to
stop him at whim is obviously a big victory for him.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I also would never have used the word tri triumphalism triumphalism.
Another legal expert says that this is also going to
be This is going to have repercussions beyond just the
Supreme Court getting to issues like birthright citizenship eventually that
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this is actually going to lead to something that he
refers to as fragmentation.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Now, the downside is we're going to have fragmentation of
federal law.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Throughout the country.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
This is something that Supreme Court does not want, that
most federal courts don't want to tolerate. That's in fact,
why we have an appellate system and the Supreme Court
to make sure there's only one rule of federal laws.
So what's going to have to happen in addition to this,
both for the Trump administration and for the parties that
are challenging his rules, is that the Supreme Court is
going to have to accelerate the review of questions like
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the birthright citizenship question to get them to the Supreme
Court faster so that we don't have, say, a district
court in Massachusetts and a district court in Texas having
enforcing different interpretations of the birthright citizenship question in their courts.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, so those guys were all on Fox on CNN.
They have a guy named Elie Honig who I believe
is considered their legal analyst CNNs, and he's a former
assistant US attorney. And his response to this decision was
this is kind of a win for the Trump kind of.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Trump says, giant win in the United States Supreme Court. Okay,
he's right to the extent that his administration, like others,
have furiously objected to this practice of district court issuing
nationwide injunctions that has been severely curtailed. So yes, absolutely,
very big win for Donald Trump, but really for the presidency.
But then the rest of his message suggests that he's
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won the birthright citizenship issue, which is not in all
the case. The court does not rule on whether Trump's
effort to narrow birthright citizenship is constitutional or unconstitutional. In fact,
we know, based on this ruling, the three liberal justices
in the dissent have said we think it's unconstitutional. So
that birthright citizenship issue. And watch for this when the
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President makes his remarks. If he declares victory on birthright citizenship,
that is not what has happened here today. That case
will make its way back to the Supreme Court, probably
sooner than later. And we know there's already not a surprise,
but we know the three liberal justices are already against it.
So if two more joined them, and I think that
could well happen. I think, if I had to guess,
I think Trump's birthright citizenship position ultimately will be struck
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down by the Court. A little bit of a speculation there,
but I think if you sort of read the law
on it, I think he's up.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There, okay, So that his opinion there about whether or
not the eventual case of birthright citizenship the Supreme Court
deciding if it will apply to current immigration law is
a bigger question that could eventually come back to the
Supreme Court. Everybody seems to think that this is Even
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the President mentioned this is now the opportunity for them
to challenge that to the Supreme Court. But that eli Honig,
Andrew McCarthy, Jonathan Turley, I mean, all these legal experts
that I listened to this morning said they think the
Supreme Court, even in its current makeup, would not change
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the way current immigration law exists when it comes to
a child born in an American territory or on American
soil is considered an American citizen. That they Congress can
change that. Congress could change that. But according to these
different legal scholars, they have said that they believe the
current Supreme Court would keep the current law in place.
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Now there's other things that have gone on. There's two
other big, big cases that came out of the Supreme
Court this morning that are a little to be honest,
I don't understand some of them, but these two I
do understand.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And we'll talk about those.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Plus if you're a complete Supreme Court nerd, there was
quite the cat fight that made its way into the
opinion and to the dissent, and we'll talk about the
three name Justices Amy Cony, Barrett and Katanji Brown Jackson
going after each other in the writing. It's getting messy
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up there. Gary and Shannon will continue. By the way,
Shannon's on vacations. She's fine, everything's fine. The suspension was
one day. Now it's just vacation. Can I say that
I'm not supposed to say suspension. She gets suspended a
lot more than people think.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Can I just say that the fact that we're admitting
Shannon got suspended makes the show all that more engaging,
because now we're all going to be listening much more
closely to see what you guys are saying. And then
if you're suddenly suspended the next day or two later.
I love the transparency and Happy Friday, Shannon, enjoy your PTO.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know if it is PTO.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
If she's suspended, they have not taken it off the
podcast is what I will say. Okay, So this Supreme
Court decision that came out six to three decision that
grants are request by the Trump administration to narrow the
scope of nationwide injunctions that are imposed by judges so
that they only apply to states or the groups or
the individuals that sue. So this is not a direct
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decision on birthright citizenship on the fourteenth Amendment, but it
does mean that that proposal put forth by the President
could move forward, at least in part in the states
that challenged it as well as those that did not.
And I mentioned that within the opinion and the dissent,
which is basically, the arguments that are laid out by
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the justices in favor and by the justices opposed, had
a lot of had a lot of language that went
right after each other. I referred to it as a
cat fighter.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
Gary, question, is that a sexist comment? Just may refer
to the yes, quote unquote cat fight. Yes, between the
two cats. I mean, ladies in the Supreme Court. Is
the debta a sexist.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yes way to put it? Yes, it is so.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
I would like your opinion.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Thank you you. My opinion is yes, that's a sexist
way to put it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But Amy Cody Barrett wrote in favor of this, Justice
Kati Brown Jackson wrote the descent, and they went after
each other.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
I The section of the opinion where Justice Barrett goes
after Justice Jackson makes her some pretty sporty reading. I mean,
she delivers a haymaker where she essentially accuses Justice Jackson
of embracing judicial supremacy and somewhat mocks her hyperbolic response.
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I mean, the Jackson descent itself is rather radioactive. I
mean she talks about the collective demise that will come
from all of this that clearly rubbed Justice Barrett wrong.
I mean, the notable thing about this is that Barrett
has shown a willingness in past cases to vote with
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the liberal justices. She is not robotic or rigid in
that sense, but she clearly took umbrage at the language
in the Jackson Descent. Justice Jackson of late has been
more hyperbolic, more heated frankly in some of her opinions,
and Justice Barrett here is pushing back in an uncommonly
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direct way for an opinion.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
There was also an important thing to remember.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
President Trump has been going after Justice Amy Cony Barrett
recently because she one of the newer justices on the
Supreme Court, has in recent months sided with those liberal
justices on certain cases. And his argument, at least according
to sources that have been privy to his arguments, his
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argument was that he put her in there, she needed
to be loyal to him. And as we've seen with
not just him, I'm sorry, not just her, not just
Amy Cony Barrett, but also with Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsich,
that these justices are independent. Yeah, granted they do follow
along ideological lines, but they have proven that they are
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completely willing to go against the wishes of the president.
In some cases he did. President Trump did thank Amy
Cony Barrett since she was the one who wrote the
majority opinion today, so a couple other cases that have
come out number one today, the Supreme Court will allow
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parents to keep kids out of lessons in schools when
it comes to LGBTQ plus themed story books. The majority
said that government officials burdened the religious rights of parents
when they require them to submit their children to instruction
that poses a quote very real threat of undermining the
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religious beliefs and practices that parents wish to instill. One
of the other decisions that came out today was specifically
that Texas a law in Texas requiring pornography websites to
verify that visitors are eighteen or older can stand. There
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was an argument that that went against the First Amendment,
but the Court said again in a six to three decision,
again along ideological lines, that protecting children from sexually explicit
material online justifies the burden of the age verification requirement
that puts it on adults. There are right now Texas
the case was the place I should say that this
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case came from, But there are twenty four states that
have passed very similar laws that would mandate you proving
that you're eighteen or whatever age they put on there
for adult websites. Several of the statutes were put on
hold by the lower courts until this thing can be
figured out. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion in
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that one. Critics have said that this would be an
invasion of privacy, could spur identity theft and could drive
the porn sites to operate in places beyond the reach
of the laws of the United States. The President continues
to talk there in the press briefing room at the
White House about all of this. He's been going for
about forty five minutes, and we're keeping an eye on it,
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an ear as well, listening to see if anything in
fact comes out of that. So we'll get back into
that when we get into Swamp Watch coming up at
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Do you know what the Narnia attack is?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Narnia was the code name that was given to Israel's
attack on the military and nuclear leadership. This was before
the United States struck the nuclear plans. We'll talk about
how they were able to pull that thing off, the
Narnia Operation Narnia when we come back. Gary and Shannon
will continue. Reminder, we always want to know what you're thinking.
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
A Supreme Court did rule individual judges do not have
the authority to grant nationwide injunctions. I mentioned President Trump
taking his victory lap there at the White House Press
Briefing Room podium.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Still there, so he's a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right as we went to break, he actually asked the
people in the room, should we quit?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Should we stop? Is it too much? Tell me when
you get bored, and then took a bunch more questions.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So he is.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He is still going.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Governor Newsome is pulling a Trump. He is suing Fox News.
He has accused the network of defaming him in the
coverage of the phone call that supposedly took place between
he and President Trump earlier this month in regards to protests.
He is suing for at least seven eighty seven million dollars,
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which is very trump like. The lawyers for the governor
also sent a letter to the network demanding a formal
re at, retraction and an on air apology from Jesse
Waters Later. In fact, the top of the hour, I'll
play for you what Jesse Water said, and why Gaven
Newsom is suing prices that consumers pay rose a little
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bit in the month of May, annual inflation rate edged
further away from the Fed Reserve target Personal Consumption Expenditures
Price Index that's the primary inflation rating for the Fed,
rose a seasonally adjusted one tenth of one percent for
the month. That puts the annual inflation rate at a
boy at about two point three percent.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
So this is my question to Shannon. Does she know
after she says something. Does she say, oh, I'm going
to be suspended for this, or she doesn't think about
it and then it comes down. I'm just curious where
her thought process is.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, love you both, Thank I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Love you too. I would say, what do you think?
Do you think she spends a lot of time thinking
about it?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Very Gary?
Speaker 11 (16:56):
How you doing today, Steep of Texas?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I tell you day number two of good.
Speaker 11 (17:03):
News and no climbing around?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, keep it up, Gary Love.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
While Shannon is allegedly suspended or supposedly on vacation, vacation
on occasion, could you please play some of her classic
giggle tracks?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Thank you see if I have any I have to
find those again. But I do have those. Those will
come up.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Midnight June thirteenth, in Israel, a bunch of generals gathered
in a bunker beneath the Israeli Air Force headquarters and
watched what they called at the time the Red Wedding,
remember the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They lured everybody there and then killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Operation Narnia was the Israeli plan to decapitate Iran's military
and nuclear operations by killing a bunch of people at
the same time. Combination of intelligence, information and military precision
surprised everybody around the world. A key part of this
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considered so crazy, so fantasy like that they called it
Operation Narnia, after the C. S. Lewis fantasy series. They
were able to kill nine of the top nuclear scientists
in Iran almost simultaneously, because they knew you can't just
kill one and then go after another one and then
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go because eventually they'll scatter. They'll get the message that
they're being hunted, and they'll scatter. They've been planning this
thing for basically for a decade. One of the major generals,
the ahead of the Israeli Military Operations Directorate, said, when
we started to plan this thing in detail. It was
very difficult to know that this was going to work out.
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So think back to the mid nineties. That's why we
chose nineteen ninety five as our flashback Friday year.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Think back to the mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Israeli intelligence saw what they believed was the beginnings of
the Iranian nuclear program, so they start building the Israelis
do this extensive network of agents inside Iran, trying to
facilitate some sort of a campaign of sabotage, to put
roadblocks in the way, things that might appear accidental but
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were really sabotaging the nuclear program as it was getting up.
They caused explosions twice at one of the main enrichment
sites and assassinated some of the scientists. But Israeli officials
ultimately figured out those activities weren't enough. They're going to
need to do a heavier, stronger blow, so they were
going to need to hit more than one thousand miles
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from home. They're talking fighter jets, bombers. They don't have any.
I don't think they have any bombers, I mean big ones,
but fighter jets that carry bombs. And it was a
huge undertaking Israel is small. Israel is the size of
New Jersey, and you're talking about aerial sorties that were
one thousand miles both ways. Pilots are gonna have to
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learn how to fly in formation around a tanker. They'd
have to learn how to put their planes positioning at
the time of bombardment so that when the bombs are
dropped they land within fifteen to twenty seconds for maximum
maximum effectiveness. So they started training for this way Back
in two thousand and eight. They did a practice called
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Operation Glorious Spartan. One hundred airplanes F fifteens and F
sixteen's flew one thousand miles to Greece.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's not the way to Iran, but it's the.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Distance, testing their ability to fly far enough and hit
the nuclear facilities, and exercises like that would become more
frequent this program, This plan was almost launched many many times.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Israel also got some training because the Houthi rebels start
popping up in Yemen, and they can fly from Israel
to Yemen, drop a handful of bombs and get the
practice they need for the bigger target, which was Iran's
nuclear program. We'll talk more about exactly what they did
that day June thirteenth, and why this thing almost got
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called off.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (21:33):
Of course, the big rulings that came down will rego,
will rego. We'll redo them when we get into swamp.
Watch the three bigger ones, at least the three more
understandable ones, birthright, citizenship, LGBTQ lessons in school, also age
verification for pornography websites. That's all coming up. The defense
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attorneys for Sean Combs are now delivering their closing arguments
today in the federal racketeering charges. Mark Agnihilo, I think
is one of how you say his name. One of
the defense attorneys said, his side of the table is
not fighting allegations that Sean Didty Combs engaged in domestic violence,
and his quote today before the jury was we own
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the domestic violence. I hope you guys know that, but
then told the jurors remember the charges against him. He
did not do the things he's charged with racketeering or
sex trafficking. He didn't kidnap anyone or obstruct justice. He's
going to fight to the death to defend himself. Against
what he didn't do. While this is going on, By
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the way, yet another lawsuit has been filed against Sean
Diddy Combs and his son accused of raping a woman
back in twenty seventeen, so that is not over by
any means. Angels will host the Nationals tonight in Anaheim.
Dodgers beat the Rockies again three to one yesterday, so
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Speaker 4 (23:16):
Hey Gary, Shannon, David and your bone day.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
David.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just guys need that five second delay button.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
I just don't understand why you won't institute that. We're
talking about saving jobs, saving jobs just a matter of
time for the company.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Just says enough is enough, But I don't want to
see that happen. Nope, you guys are so great together.
Thank you, take care of Thank thanks.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Samit Elmer, Just how long would you say, is the
delay that we have built into the system.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Here about thirty seconds?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's thirty seconds, okay, so you feel like that's long enough? Yeah, okay, good,
just just checking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We're talking about Operation Narnia again, this attack that Israel
imposed on Iran and decapitated the nuclear program. And I said,
it's been planned for more than a couple decades, probably
back into the mid nineties that they started realizing that
Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon, and beyond the no
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normal chance of death to Israel death to America, considered
that an existential threat to the existence of the nation
of Israel. So there was a sense that Iran had
begun to enrich uranium recently to such levels that it
was going to be just months away from building a
nuclear bomb if it wanted to so in November of
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last year, of course, also pressured by October seventh, twenty
twenty three, when Hamas came across the border and attacked
out of Gaza. A year later, the military gathered one
hundred and twenty intelligence and Air force officials to decide
what are we going after, and in the end they
drew up a list of over two hundred and fifty
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two targets, human targets like the scientists, the nuclear sites,
the Iranian missile launchers. Certain military officials, one of the
priorities was figuring out how they're going to be able
to control the skies over Iran. Iran had a had
a robust air defense system, and what they did was
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MOSAD was brought in the spy Agency to aid that effort,
and they spent months smuggling parts in for drones rigged
with explosives in suitcases, in trucks, in shipping containers, plus
any munitions that could be fired remotely from unmanned platforms.
Small teams armed with that equipment would set up near
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the air defense encampments that Iran had and missile sites,
ready to take those things out as soon as is
We launched its attack. Then remember we talked about when
America flew the B two bombers to strike the nuclear sites.
There was a decoy where some of the B two
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bombers with their transponders turned on, were flying west over
the Pacific, which would have taken a day and a
half basically more than that to get to get to Iran,
and then sent the actual bombers the other way, so
it was a seventeen hour flight instead of a day
and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, Israel did something as well.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They knew they were going to make a plan for
June thirteenth, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office kept playing
up the oh, he's going to take the weekend off
his son is getting married. Plus there was which didn't
happen by the way they delayed the wedding. Plus they
were leaking reports to the media that suggested there was
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a riff between net and Yahoo and Trump. Trump, in fact,
went on truth social and posted things like we remained
committed to a dip somatic.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Resolution to the nuclear issue.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And that Trump told reporters that they were fairly close
to an agreement with Iran, and that he didn't want
the Israelis going in all of that setting.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Up the sneak attack.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Basically, that was the Israeli offensive into Iran. To the
amazement of the Israeli high command. Rather than scattering, the
Iranian air force leaders gathered together in one place. The
leadership of the Iranian Air Force did not scatter. They
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gathered in one place, and the people in Israel were like,
how could we possibly get this lucky explosions killed the scientists,
nine of them in almost simultaneous attacks to prevent them
to going into hiding. The missiles hit radar stations, anti
aircraft batteries, iray, and surface to air missiles, and Israeli
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intelligence was able to confirm that the human targets had
nearly all been killed, and at about four hours the
first salvo of Operation Narnia was over. And then of
course after that, they just continued to pound the nuclear facilities,
the ballistic missile production sites, all of the launchers. They
continued to hunt down military leaders and nuclear scientists, and
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there was a chance that it wasn't even going to
get off the ground. And it was wildly successful, all right.
Up next, the latest on the duel between President Trump
and Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is taking a page out
of Donald Trump's book and suing a television network.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The Supreme Court handed a major win to the administration
by allowing it to take steps to implement its proposal
to end automatic birthright citizenship. Now, the decision today, and
you'll he'll just repeat it over and over again, was
not about birthright citizenship. That happens to be the flavor
of the case that caused this question. But the question
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itself is whether or not district judges can issue nationwide
injunctions against executive orders that a president signs. And you
got to be careful because the headlines are obviously saying
this is a big win for Trump since he happens
to be the president. This same kind of a decision
would have helped Obama, it would have helped Biden, It
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would have helped George W. Bush because they also had
executive orders that were enjoined by nationwide injunctions against the
plans that they were doing. So a lot of sounds
to get to in all of this, and we'll start
with President Trump from just a few minutes ago at
the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So he was elected on a historic mandate, But in
recent months we've seen a handful of radical left judges
effectively try to overrule the rightful powers of the president
to stop the American people from getting the policies that
they voted for in record numbers. It was a grave
threat to democracy, frankly, and instead of merely ruling on
(01:35):
the immediate cases before them, these judges have attempted to
dictate the law for the entire.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nation again six to three ruling, and it deals specifically
with the power that district judges have and how far
it extends this. You could say, one of the questions
for the president a short time ago was are you
concerned that this is going to give too much power
to the executive branch to the presidency. Obviously he doesn't
(02:03):
think that that's a bad thing. He said right now
that the Constitution is more normalized this way, and this
is the way that the framers of the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Had it in mind.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And getting this in place now, according to the President,
gives him the ability to get some actual things done.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thanks to this decision, we can now promptly file to
proceed with numerous policies that have been wrongly enjoined on
a nationwide basis, and some of the cases we're talking
about would be ending birthright citizenship, which now comes to
the fore that was meant for the babies of slaves.
It wasn't meant for people trying to scam the system
(02:47):
and come into the country on a vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So we'll hear from some of the people who do
this on a regular basis, lawyers, professors of law, etc.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Who look through all of this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Andrew McCarthy, editor in chief of the National Review, says,
this is a win for Trump, yes, but it's not
a win for birthright citizenship one way or the other.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I don't know that the triumphalism about the ultimate result
in the birthright citizenship case is warranted, because I think
they may very well lose that. But as far as
Trump moving his agenda, having judges no longer able to
stop him at whim is obviously a big victory for him.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I also would never have used the word tri triumphalism triumphalism.
Another legal expert says that this is also going to
be This is going to have repercussions beyond just the
Supreme Court getting to issues like birthright citizenship eventually that
(03:50):
this is actually going to lead to something that he
refers to as fragmentation.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Now, the downside is we're going to have fragmentation of
federal law.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Throughout the country.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
This is something that Supreme Court does not want, that
most federal courts don't want to tolerate. That's in fact,
why we have an appellate system and the Supreme Court
to make sure there's only one rule of federal laws.
So what's going to have to happen in addition to this,
both for the Trump administration and for the parties that
are challenging his rules, is that the Supreme Court is
going to have to accelerate the review of questions like
(04:21):
the birthright citizenship question to get them to the Supreme
Court faster so that we don't have, say, a district
court in Massachusetts and a district court in Texas having
enforcing different interpretations of the birthright citizenship question in their courts.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, so those guys were all on Fox on CNN.
They have a guy named Elie Honig who I believe
is considered their legal analyst CNNs, and he's a former
assistant US attorney. And his response to this decision was
this is kind of a win for the Trump kind of.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Trump says, giant win in the United States Supreme Court. Okay,
he's right to the extent that his administration, like others,
have furiously objected to this practice of district court issuing
nationwide injunctions that has been severely curtailed. So yes, absolutely,
very big win for Donald Trump, but really for the presidency.
But then the rest of his message suggests that he's
(05:16):
won the birthright citizenship issue, which is not in all
the case. The court does not rule on whether Trump's
effort to narrow birthright citizenship is constitutional or unconstitutional. In fact,
we know, based on this ruling, the three liberal justices
in the dissent have said we think it's unconstitutional. So
that birthright citizenship issue. And watch for this when the
(05:36):
President makes his remarks. If he declares victory on birthright citizenship,
that is not what has happened here today. That case
will make its way back to the Supreme Court, probably
sooner than later. And we know there's already not a surprise,
but we know the three liberal justices are already against it.
So if two more joined them, and I think that
could well happen. I think, if I had to guess,
I think Trump's birthright citizenship position ultimately will be struck
(05:59):
down by the Court. A little bit of a speculation there,
but I think if you sort of read the law
on it, I think he's up.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There, okay, So that his opinion there about whether or
not the eventual case of birthright citizenship the Supreme Court
deciding if it will apply to current immigration law is
a bigger question that could eventually come back to the
Supreme Court. Everybody seems to think that this is Even
(06:26):
the President mentioned this is now the opportunity for them
to challenge that to the Supreme Court. But that eli Honig,
Andrew McCarthy, Jonathan Turley, I mean, all these legal experts
that I listened to this morning said they think the
Supreme Court, even in its current makeup, would not change
(06:46):
the way current immigration law exists when it comes to
a child born in an American territory or on American
soil is considered an American citizen. That they Congress can
change that. Congress could change that. But according to these
different legal scholars, they have said that they believe the
current Supreme Court would keep the current law in place.
(07:08):
Now there's other things that have gone on. There's two
other big, big cases that came out of the Supreme
Court this morning that are a little to be honest,
I don't understand some of them, but these two I
do understand.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And we'll talk about those.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Plus if you're a complete Supreme Court nerd, there was
quite the cat fight that made its way into the
opinion and to the dissent, and we'll talk about the
three name Justices Amy Cony, Barrett and Katanji Brown Jackson
going after each other in the writing. It's getting messy
(07:44):
up there. Gary and Shannon will continue. By the way,
Shannon's on vacations. She's fine, everything's fine. The suspension was
one day. Now it's just vacation. Can I say that
I'm not supposed to say suspension. She gets suspended a
lot more than people think.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Can I just say that the fact that we're admitting
Shannon got suspended makes the show all that more engaging,
because now we're all going to be listening much more
closely to see what you guys are saying. And then
if you're suddenly suspended the next day or two later.
I love the transparency and Happy Friday, Shannon, enjoy your PTO.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know if it is PTO.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
If she's suspended, they have not taken it off the
podcast is what I will say. Okay, So this Supreme
Court decision that came out six to three decision that
grants are request by the Trump administration to narrow the
scope of nationwide injunctions that are imposed by judges so
that they only apply to states or the groups or
the individuals that sue. So this is not a direct
(08:54):
decision on birthright citizenship on the fourteenth Amendment, but it
does mean that that proposal put forth by the President
could move forward, at least in part in the states
that challenged it as well as those that did not.
And I mentioned that within the opinion and the dissent,
which is basically, the arguments that are laid out by
(09:17):
the justices in favor and by the justices opposed, had
a lot of had a lot of language that went
right after each other. I referred to it as a
cat fighter.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
Gary, question, is that a sexist comment? Just may refer
to the yes, quote unquote cat fight. Yes, between the
two cats. I mean, ladies in the Supreme Court. Is
the debta a sexist.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yes way to put it? Yes, it is so.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
I would like your opinion.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Thank you you. My opinion is yes, that's a sexist
way to put it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But Amy Cody Barrett wrote in favor of this, Justice
Kati Brown Jackson wrote the descent, and they went after
each other.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
I The section of the opinion where Justice Barrett goes
after Justice Jackson makes her some pretty sporty reading. I mean,
she delivers a haymaker where she essentially accuses Justice Jackson
of embracing judicial supremacy and somewhat mocks her hyperbolic response.
(10:27):
I mean, the Jackson descent itself is rather radioactive. I
mean she talks about the collective demise that will come
from all of this that clearly rubbed Justice Barrett wrong.
I mean, the notable thing about this is that Barrett
has shown a willingness in past cases to vote with
(10:47):
the liberal justices. She is not robotic or rigid in
that sense, but she clearly took umbrage at the language
in the Jackson Descent. Justice Jackson of late has been
more hyperbolic, more heated frankly in some of her opinions,
and Justice Barrett here is pushing back in an uncommonly
(11:11):
direct way for an opinion.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
There was also an important thing to remember.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
President Trump has been going after Justice Amy Cony Barrett
recently because she one of the newer justices on the
Supreme Court, has in recent months sided with those liberal
justices on certain cases. And his argument, at least according
to sources that have been privy to his arguments, his
(11:36):
argument was that he put her in there, she needed
to be loyal to him. And as we've seen with
not just him, I'm sorry, not just her, not just
Amy Cony Barrett, but also with Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsich,
that these justices are independent. Yeah, granted they do follow
along ideological lines, but they have proven that they are
(11:57):
completely willing to go against the wishes of the president.
In some cases he did. President Trump did thank Amy
Cony Barrett since she was the one who wrote the
majority opinion today, so a couple other cases that have
come out number one today, the Supreme Court will allow
(12:17):
parents to keep kids out of lessons in schools when
it comes to LGBTQ plus themed story books. The majority
said that government officials burdened the religious rights of parents
when they require them to submit their children to instruction
that poses a quote very real threat of undermining the
(12:39):
religious beliefs and practices that parents wish to instill. One
of the other decisions that came out today was specifically
that Texas a law in Texas requiring pornography websites to
verify that visitors are eighteen or older can stand. There
(13:00):
was an argument that that went against the First Amendment,
but the Court said again in a six to three decision,
again along ideological lines, that protecting children from sexually explicit
material online justifies the burden of the age verification requirement
that puts it on adults. There are right now Texas
the case was the place I should say that this
(13:23):
case came from, But there are twenty four states that
have passed very similar laws that would mandate you proving
that you're eighteen or whatever age they put on there
for adult websites. Several of the statutes were put on
hold by the lower courts until this thing can be
figured out. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion in
(13:44):
that one. Critics have said that this would be an
invasion of privacy, could spur identity theft and could drive
the porn sites to operate in places beyond the reach
of the laws of the United States. The President continues
to talk there in the press briefing room at the
White House about all of this. He's been going for
about forty five minutes, and we're keeping an eye on it,
(14:06):
an ear as well, listening to see if anything in
fact comes out of that. So we'll get back into
that when we get into Swamp Watch coming up at
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Do you know what the Narnia attack is?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Narnia was the code name that was given to Israel's
attack on the military and nuclear leadership. This was before
the United States struck the nuclear plans. We'll talk about
how they were able to pull that thing off, the
Narnia Operation Narnia when we come back. Gary and Shannon
will continue. Reminder, we always want to know what you're thinking.
(14:40):
You can tap on the little microphone button. If you're
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
A Supreme Court did rule individual judges do not have
the authority to grant nationwide injunctions. I mentioned President Trump
taking his victory lap there at the White House Press
Briefing Room podium.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Still there, so he's a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right as we went to break, he actually asked the
people in the room, should we quit?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Should we stop? Is it too much? Tell me when
you get bored, and then took a bunch more questions.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So he is.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He is still going.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Governor Newsome is pulling a Trump. He is suing Fox News.
He has accused the network of defaming him in the
coverage of the phone call that supposedly took place between
he and President Trump earlier this month in regards to protests.
He is suing for at least seven eighty seven million dollars,
(15:52):
which is very trump like. The lawyers for the governor
also sent a letter to the network demanding a formal
re at, retraction and an on air apology from Jesse
Waters Later. In fact, the top of the hour, I'll
play for you what Jesse Water said, and why Gaven
Newsom is suing prices that consumers pay rose a little
(16:14):
bit in the month of May, annual inflation rate edged
further away from the Fed Reserve target Personal Consumption Expenditures
Price Index that's the primary inflation rating for the Fed,
rose a seasonally adjusted one tenth of one percent for
the month. That puts the annual inflation rate at a
boy at about two point three percent.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
So this is my question to Shannon. Does she know
after she says something. Does she say, oh, I'm going
to be suspended for this, or she doesn't think about
it and then it comes down. I'm just curious where
her thought process is.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, love you both, Thank I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Love you too. I would say, what do you think?
Do you think she spends a lot of time thinking
about it?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Very Gary?
Speaker 11 (16:56):
How you doing today, Steep of Texas?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I tell you day number two of good.
Speaker 11 (17:03):
News and no climbing around?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, keep it up, Gary Love.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
While Shannon is allegedly suspended or supposedly on vacation, vacation
on occasion, could you please play some of her classic
giggle tracks?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Thank you see if I have any I have to
find those again. But I do have those. Those will
come up.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Midnight June thirteenth, in Israel, a bunch of generals gathered
in a bunker beneath the Israeli Air Force headquarters and
watched what they called at the time the Red Wedding,
remember the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They lured everybody there and then killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Operation Narnia was the Israeli plan to decapitate Iran's military
and nuclear operations by killing a bunch of people at
the same time. Combination of intelligence, information and military precision
surprised everybody around the world. A key part of this
(18:14):
considered so crazy, so fantasy like that they called it
Operation Narnia, after the C. S. Lewis fantasy series. They
were able to kill nine of the top nuclear scientists
in Iran almost simultaneously, because they knew you can't just
kill one and then go after another one and then
(18:34):
go because eventually they'll scatter. They'll get the message that
they're being hunted, and they'll scatter. They've been planning this
thing for basically for a decade. One of the major generals,
the ahead of the Israeli Military Operations Directorate, said, when
we started to plan this thing in detail. It was
very difficult to know that this was going to work out.
(18:55):
So think back to the mid nineties. That's why we
chose nineteen ninety five as our flashback Friday year.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Think back to the mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Israeli intelligence saw what they believed was the beginnings of
the Iranian nuclear program, so they start building the Israelis
do this extensive network of agents inside Iran, trying to
facilitate some sort of a campaign of sabotage, to put
roadblocks in the way, things that might appear accidental but
(19:27):
were really sabotaging the nuclear program as it was getting up.
They caused explosions twice at one of the main enrichment
sites and assassinated some of the scientists. But Israeli officials
ultimately figured out those activities weren't enough. They're going to
need to do a heavier, stronger blow, so they were
going to need to hit more than one thousand miles
(19:49):
from home. They're talking fighter jets, bombers. They don't have any.
I don't think they have any bombers, I mean big ones,
but fighter jets that carry bombs. And it was a
huge undertaking Israel is small. Israel is the size of
New Jersey, and you're talking about aerial sorties that were
one thousand miles both ways. Pilots are gonna have to
(20:12):
learn how to fly in formation around a tanker. They'd
have to learn how to put their planes positioning at
the time of bombardment so that when the bombs are
dropped they land within fifteen to twenty seconds for maximum
maximum effectiveness. So they started training for this way Back
in two thousand and eight. They did a practice called
(20:35):
Operation Glorious Spartan. One hundred airplanes F fifteens and F
sixteen's flew one thousand miles to Greece.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's not the way to Iran, but it's the.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Distance, testing their ability to fly far enough and hit
the nuclear facilities, and exercises like that would become more
frequent this program, This plan was almost launched many many times.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Israel also got some training because the Houthi rebels start
popping up in Yemen, and they can fly from Israel
to Yemen, drop a handful of bombs and get the
practice they need for the bigger target, which was Iran's
nuclear program. We'll talk more about exactly what they did
that day June thirteenth, and why this thing almost got
(21:23):
called off.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Of course, the big rulings that came down will rego,
will rego. We'll redo them when we get into swamp.
Watch the three bigger ones, at least the three more
understandable ones, birthright, citizenship, LGBTQ lessons in school, also age
verification for pornography websites. That's all coming up. The defense
(21:53):
attorneys for Sean Combs are now delivering their closing arguments
today in the federal racketeering charges. Mark Agnihilo, I think
is one of how you say his name. One of
the defense attorneys said, his side of the table is
not fighting allegations that Sean Didty Combs engaged in domestic violence,
and his quote today before the jury was we own
(22:16):
the domestic violence. I hope you guys know that, but
then told the jurors remember the charges against him. He
did not do the things he's charged with racketeering or
sex trafficking. He didn't kidnap anyone or obstruct justice. He's
going to fight to the death to defend himself. Against
what he didn't do. While this is going on, By
(22:37):
the way, yet another lawsuit has been filed against Sean
Diddy Combs and his son accused of raping a woman
back in twenty seventeen, so that is not over by
any means. Angels will host the Nationals tonight in Anaheim.
Dodgers beat the Rockies again three to one yesterday, so
the Dodger moved on to Kansas City this afternoon. You
(23:00):
can listen to all the Dodgers games on AM five
seventy LA Sports live from the Galvin Motors Broadcast Youth,
butth stream all the games in HD on the iHeartRadio app.
Use that keyword AM five seventy LA Sports. That first
pitch is coming up at at five ten this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Hey Gary, Shannon, David and your bone day.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
David.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just guys need that five second delay button.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
I just don't understand why you won't institute that. We're
talking about saving jobs, saving jobs just a matter of
time for the company.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Just says enough is enough, But I don't want to
see that happen. Nope, you guys are so great together.
Thank you, take care of Thank thanks.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Samit Elmer, Just how long would you say, is the
delay that we have built into the system.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Here about thirty seconds?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's thirty seconds, okay, so you feel like that's long enough? Yeah, okay, good,
just just checking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We're talking about Operation Narnia again, this attack that Israel
imposed on Iran and decapitated the nuclear program. And I said,
it's been planned for more than a couple decades, probably
back into the mid nineties that they started realizing that
Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon, and beyond the no
(24:19):
normal chance of death to Israel death to America, considered
that an existential threat to the existence of the nation
of Israel. So there was a sense that Iran had
begun to enrich uranium recently to such levels that it
was going to be just months away from building a
nuclear bomb if it wanted to so in November of
(24:39):
last year, of course, also pressured by October seventh, twenty
twenty three, when Hamas came across the border and attacked
out of Gaza. A year later, the military gathered one
hundred and twenty intelligence and Air force officials to decide
what are we going after, and in the end they
drew up a list of over two hundred and fifty
(24:59):
two targets, human targets like the scientists, the nuclear sites,
the Iranian missile launchers. Certain military officials, one of the
priorities was figuring out how they're going to be able
to control the skies over Iran. Iran had a had
a robust air defense system, and what they did was
(25:21):
MOSAD was brought in the spy Agency to aid that effort,
and they spent months smuggling parts in for drones rigged
with explosives in suitcases, in trucks, in shipping containers, plus
any munitions that could be fired remotely from unmanned platforms.
Small teams armed with that equipment would set up near
(25:43):
the air defense encampments that Iran had and missile sites,
ready to take those things out as soon as is
We launched its attack. Then remember we talked about when
America flew the B two bombers to strike the nuclear sites.
There was a decoy where some of the B two
(26:03):
bombers with their transponders turned on, were flying west over
the Pacific, which would have taken a day and a
half basically more than that to get to get to Iran,
and then sent the actual bombers the other way, so
it was a seventeen hour flight instead of a day
and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, Israel did something as well.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They knew they were going to make a plan for
June thirteenth, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office kept playing
up the oh, he's going to take the weekend off
his son is getting married. Plus there was which didn't
happen by the way they delayed the wedding. Plus they
were leaking reports to the media that suggested there was
(26:50):
a riff between net and Yahoo and Trump. Trump, in fact,
went on truth social and posted things like we remained
committed to a dip somatic.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Resolution to the nuclear issue.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And that Trump told reporters that they were fairly close
to an agreement with Iran, and that he didn't want
the Israelis going in all of that setting.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Up the sneak attack.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Basically, that was the Israeli offensive into Iran. To the
amazement of the Israeli high command. Rather than scattering, the
Iranian air force leaders gathered together in one place. The
leadership of the Iranian Air Force did not scatter. They
(27:41):
gathered in one place, and the people in Israel were like,
how could we possibly get this lucky explosions killed the scientists,
nine of them in almost simultaneous attacks to prevent them
to going into hiding. The missiles hit radar stations, anti
aircraft batteries, iray, and surface to air missiles, and Israeli
(28:02):
intelligence was able to confirm that the human targets had
nearly all been killed, and at about four hours the
first salvo of Operation Narnia was over. And then of
course after that, they just continued to pound the nuclear facilities,
the ballistic missile production sites, all of the launchers. They
continued to hunt down military leaders and nuclear scientists, and
(28:24):
there was a chance that it wasn't even going to
get off the ground. And it was wildly successful, all right.
Up next, the latest on the duel between President Trump
and Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is taking a page out
of Donald Trump's book and suing a television network.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
We'll tell you why he's so angry with Fox News
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
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