November 12, 2025 • 24 mins
It’s a big day at L.A. City Hall — Michael Monks joins Gary and Shannon to break down what’s next for rent control and that wild downtown gondola plan. Plus, Gov. Newsom makes headlines with a visit to Brazil, and an AI-generated country song just hit #1 in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I saw the knockoff version on Team America World Police.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Is Rent, the one that revolves around aids.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Everybody's got aids.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Everyone's got aids? Yes, okay, Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Munks does not have aids. But happy to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From the Team America is everyone has aids. It's a
It's shockingly hilarious. That movie is so funny, so funny.
Rent is Rent's good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I knew you were a theater girly when we talked
about it last week. You knew that is this from Rent.
I don't know what what show could? I have no idea.
I have been asked.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We'll get to Michael here in a second, and actually
important things. I've been asked over and over again if
I would do musicals or if I like musicals. I
enjoy watching a musical, but I do not then go
home and sing the songs. The only songs from any
musicals that I would know are like the first two
songs from Labies.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, that alone is a lot number two I don't
think that's a prerequisite where you just go home and
sing and dance. I think you get asked that question
because everyone who knows you knows you would be wonderful
in musicals. There's so much more for you to give
on stage. And I'm not saying that to be cute.
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I hope they do The Music Man next year and
you are the star. Oh my god, that would be perfect. Yeah,
I would love that. I'm just gonna sit quietly.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And because you can dance, you can sing, and you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Can ever done either one of those things. You can
not Albert Peterson, Bye Bye Birdie. I would cast you now.
I don't know what that is. Dick van Dyke played
him in the movie version and in the Broadway. I
know who Dick van Dyke is.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get a little Dick van Dyk.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, you do a little bet.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Michael Monks has joined us.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He covers a lot of stuff that's going on downtown
LA for KFI News, and one of the big deal
today is the city Council gets to chime in on
the Frank McCourt connected gondola that would go from somewhere
close to downtown up to Dodger Stadium. We've talked about
this for years in that at first it seemed kind
of pie in the sky. Then it started gaining some momentum.
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Then the people came in and said, well, you can't
do this. It's going to be bad. You got to
not only do you have to have environmental reviews, you've
got to have like FAA clearance because it's going to
go up into the sky, etc.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Where do we stand on all this, Well, it's still
in the works.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And when you think about the gondola just as announced,
it may seem a bit ridiculous, like why do we
need this?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But after sitting through a few of the meetings and
listening to a lot of the arguments, you do get
an understanding that this might make sense.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Another way to get to Dodger Stadium, because I do
go would be great. Everyone who goes to Dodger Stadium,
who sits in the traffic or the crowded buses or
what have you, knows another way would be great. However,
how many homes would this fly over? Shall we speak?
Because and would there have to be homes demolished?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Again? Shades of the past in Chavez Ravine.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
This is something that would go from Union Station to
Dodger Stadium, and it would be just over a mile
long one point two mile route, and it would go
through those neighborhoods of Chinatown and the La State Historic Park.
And there have been concerns raised by the city council
member who represents that district units He's Hernandez, who is
worried about, yes, possible displacement, which it doesn't look like
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that's going to be a serious issue, but they have
used mechanisms to delay this project and force it back
into legal and civic reviews. And so what they are
asking today, led by Councilmen Hernandez and her allies Isabelle
Herado councilwoman, and Councilmen Hugosota Martinez, they've put forth this
resolution that says let's go in the record as a
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city governing body and say we oppose this project. I
don't expect that it would be a unanimous vote.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I think because of the past and Chavez Ravine, everyone's
hyper sensitive about any sort of project that's going to
that's going to negatively impact the people who do live
there now even more and going in the future. I mean,
imagine you buy a home there and then all of
a sudden, you've got a gondola that's going to be
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traversing the airspace above your home.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's awful. I wouldn't want that. Could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, you bought your home, you know, ten years ago,
there's no sight of this thing. It's a whisper maybe
if that, and then all of a sudden it's there's
a something that could crash.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Down on your home at any time.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean, I know that's not going to happen, but
it would be something that gave you some a mild
to severe anxiety.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Would you would have a company with that perspective? There
are residents and business owners in Chinatown in that area
who say this project would harm their community. They say
it would take land away from the public park, the
State Park. That's really the displacement we're talking about. Is
there concern that there will be less access to areas
in La State Park. They also say this project would
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actually increase traffic while it's under construction. They say there
will be more noise, and they say their privacy could
be violated. But what's often overlooked from these arguments against
the project, A ton of people who live there support it.
Fifteen thousand people in more than four hundred businesses in Chinatown,
El Pueblo and Lincoln Heights have signed up to support
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the project. It also has the backing of organized labor,
business and environmental activists, and that's according to the organization
Zero Emissions Transit. So the reasons they would support that
is you're gonna get more foot traffic in and around
where the gondola takes off takes off, yeah, where it sits,
and then when everybody gets done after the game, you're
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gonna have a crap ton of more foot exactly right.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
How would you want that?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I mean, if it takes off from Union Station, it's
already not a really great area where people are like,
h about restaurant nearby?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Should I try?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You go to Union Station to get on the bus
to go to Dodger Station somewhere else? You get to
Union Station to get on the gondola to go to
it wouldn't be one of those places where people would
walk around And I just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And perhaps if there were a better marketing strategy, you
could capitalize on this traffic. Because there's Philips right across
the street, right across the street.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Here's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's the future of what's going to be developed around
Dodger Stadium, not Union Station. Dodger Stadium has all this land,
there's no reason why it shouldn't be a live work place.
Spend all your money on restaurants and shopping when you're
at Dodger Stadium before and after and in the hours
where baseball is not in session, like.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
That area should be.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It should be developed.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And that's what Frank McCort has been banking on for decades.
And so the gondola speaks to at least the landing
spot speaks to what could be or what's going to be,
and how much money that would bring.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You think about why Dodger Stadium looks the way it
does with all of that vast land around it. In fact,
during the World Series, you saw a lot of side
by side images of the stadium in Toronto and the
stadium here in Los Angeles, and a lot of urban
minded people were commenting about what a failure Dodger Stadium
looks like compared to Toronto's, which is right in the
middle of the city and all the parking is basically hidden.
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It's part of the city fabric, whereas Dodger Stadium is separated.
And that is because, like most things around here, it
was built with the car in mind. And this gondola
project is built to reduce the number of cars that
might be needed to go up there. And so this
constant conflict that we have here in Los Angeles is
where's parking?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Where are you going to park? What are you going
to do?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we also don't build things here in LA I mean,
this isn't the only item on the agina.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, we're going to talk about something else. You know,
this is something.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
The only transit. Oh, sorry, we're late, we'll come back.
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
We're talking about the gondola project at Dodger Stadium, the
proposed Dodger Stadium gondola. Big vote today at La City
Council for this. Michael Monks from KFI News is on
this and we were talking about how Dodger Stadium was
built car centric at the time, and it's beautiful. It's
a beautiful stadium, arguably top five in the country when
it comes to baseball stadiums. And who doesn't like to
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sit at Dodger Stadium at the top deck and look
over and see the you know, the seventy six ball
and the palm trees and the hills and the sunset.
I mean, it is gorgeous. So I think there is
a school of thought leave it be. There's another school
of thought of we're leaving a lot of money on
the table of not developing that land.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Look at what happened around Angel Stadium in the last
twenty five years. That attitude of we have so much
opportunity here for residential properties, for restaurants for every.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, that's a ashole though, that's right by the five.
I mean, it's not like it has the beauty of
Dodger Stadium, no, but just.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The ability the availability of the land there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Sure, But like you said, Michael, it is a car
centric design stadium. And like we said, many modern stadiums
are not. But many modern stadiums are built in cities
where public transit is working and goes to said stadium.
Here it all stops at Union Station, and so that
is part of what the gondola is for. If it
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can take what is at five thousand people per hour
up to Dodger Stadium. Yeah, that's a chunk. That's a
sizable chunk that you can get up there without cars.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's exactly right. And so you don't even have to
drive to Union Station. If you live in certain parts
of the region, you could park near one of the
train stops out in your area. And this metro system
warts and all, and let's be clear, I mean, it
has its share of issues and it'll.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Take some time, but it has expanded.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
To be absolutely seen massive investment and now goes from
Long Beach to Pomona on one line. That's that's a
long train line, and so if you're in Pomona, you
can hop on that, come down to Union Station, and yeah,
it may take you an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I took it when I went to go see the Dodgers.
I get on the Gold Line in Arcadia and I
take it straight to Union Station. Get on that bus,
and it's so easy, it's wonderful, and it's cheaper. Parking
is what one hundred bucks exactly, And that is becoming
more of a thing for more people and more parts
of the city.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Even if a train ride, for example, take to take
getting from downtown to right here in Burbank, that's a problem.
I can drive like I do most days now, and
just in case something happens we got to go out
to the.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Scene to something.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It takes in a rush hour between forty five minutes.
In an hour to go those eleven miles, it would
take about forty five minutes if I take the train.
I could take the Bee Line train from Pershing Square
to Studio City and then hop on the Burbank bus.
It's a free transfer because you use the Metro and
it drops off right in front. It takes about the
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same amount of time, but you don't have that hassle
of merging and cursing swear.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
A lot of people say, I'll go with the cursing
and the swearing because I don't want to get on
a buck.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I know, and I wish that And this is me editorialized,
and I wish that's what would change, because I thought
it would be better for Metro and everyone who uses
it currently if there were more sane people who were
taking it places, and then you would have more of
a stake in it when you speak about your concerns.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, and to be fair, it is it is fun
to talk about the people masturbating on the platforms and
things like that, but I see more functional people taking
the train than I do the masturbator, sure, to be honest,
you know, and the masturbators get a headlines and the
oxygen because they're fun to talk about. And I think
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that that is a bad PR campaign for Metro. They
need to do more in getting out in front of
that problem and highlight the normal people like us who
ride it and find no problem with it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Incidentally, the Masturbators was a minor league baseball team in
Los Angeles the nineteenth century.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Really didn't do well.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Are you making this up like you made up your
career being a stripper.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I didn't make that up.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You did make that up. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I never called myself a stripper. I called myself an
exotic dancer because I have a master's degree. What's the
difference education? Oh, salary, not what that is? Oh, you're
salaried as an exotic dancer. Insurance benefits.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
He doesn't know what he's talking about. I haven't unionized.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Thank you, Michael, it's my pleasure. Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
Swamp Watch rolls along at the top of the hour.
A bunch of stuff going on in DC houses headed
back into session because they're about to vote on reopening
the government after the shutdown. Of course, the Senate passed
their bill, moves onto the House. The House then will
vote tonight. The expectation is that it will pass. You
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never know with Congress. And then, of course, the fallout
from all of that is that the flight cancelations could
continue even if those even if the shutdown is over.
In the Caribbean, our largest aircraft carrier, the USS, gerald
Ford is now in the areas just north of Venezuela.
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The entire carrier Strike Group is there with several destroyers
that have Tomahawk missiles that would boost our capability to
attack targets in Venezuela if if it ever comes to that.
So a couple stories that we'll expand on we get
up into swamp watch Gavin Newsom. I wanted to point
this out. Gaven Newsom has been in South America. There
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is a state in Brazil that is hosting climate talks,
and there are no representatives that I know of from
the federal government from the Trump administration who are down there.
So Gaven Newsom took it upon himself to represent the
United States, but specifically California in these ongoing talks about
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environmental policy, international cooperation, etc.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
A few things about this trip have stood out, and
number one is he is a celebrity. He has now
transcended just being a popular governor and is a celebrity
on the international stage. And the way it's being discussed.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Is well maybe in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I want to be careful when I say this
because and there are a few people.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Brazil is so screwed up, it is so corrupt. The
fact that he's legitimizing them with a visit is a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
He is being recognized by people in Brazil as not
just you know, a governor from an important state in
obviously the important country that is the United States, but
as an up and comer, as a potential presidential candidate.
And I'm sure the politicians in Brazil want to get
on this guy's good side, hedging their bets that eventually
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he may be the guy in the White House. There's
an interesting quote that Gavin Newsom told Politico at this
investor conference down in Brazil this week, and he said,
we are at peak influence because of the flat of
the surrounding terrain with the Trump administration and all the anxiety.
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The writer in Politico then also says Newsom's profile has
never been higher. Think about the win that he gets
with Prop fifty, obviously, the ongoing back and forth between
he and President Trump, et cetera. But I want to
caution if you're a giant Gavin Newsom twenty eight person,
and you're a person who believes that he should be
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the president, he should be the leader of the Democratic Party,
he should be the nominee, et cetera. A few things
to keep in mind, and we talked about this a
little bit before. Those people, those politicians and potential presidential
candidates who were ahead in the polls this early never
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went on to be the I shouldn't say never, But
in the numbers that I looked at and the campaigns
I looked at, those leaders early on did not become
their party's nominee. As an example, in two two thousand
and seven, just before the two thousand and eight, in
November of two thousand and seven, a Pew poll had
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Barack Obama at twenty two percent. He obviously went on
eventually to become the candidate. Hillary Clinton more than double
his numbers at forty eight percent. Another one from that
same presidential campaign. But on the Republican side, if I
asked you August of two thousand and seven, who were
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the two leading Republican candidates for their nomination in that party?
Any idea two top Republicans from two thousand and seven,
is that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The John What's the one who ran off with his
videographer John.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Edward John He was a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I'm talking about Republicans.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm sorry, top Republicans in two thousand, thousand and seven,
before the two thousand McCain, John McCain I think, was
third at that point, okay, and he became the nominee later.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Two thousand and seven feels like lifetimes ago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Rudy Giuliani was in first place with thirty percent. I
liked him in that and Fred Thompson was second. Fred
Thompson from Law and Order.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well from the Senate, but yes, from Law and Order.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And then think about this in twenty eleven, forty years
after that, the three leaders on the Republican side in
August of twenty eleven, according to the Real Clear Politics
average of polls, in third place, you had Hermann Kine
in second place, you had Newt Gingrich and in first
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place in August of twenty eleven, christ wrong, not even close.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Michelle Bachman.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The peaking too early when it comes to presidential politics
is a bad thing. And I know that Politico wants
to breathlessly say Gavin Newsom is the president in waiting.
I mean they use the term the climate president in waiting.
But for him, he's got to pull back on that.
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I mean, you got to take your foot off, guess
rights on.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
The international trips, got to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Slow down, take it out of fifth gear. If you're
going to survive, what will be a treacherous That's a
good point.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Democratic campaign.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I was talking to a Democrat over the weekend
and saying, you know, what do you think about Gavin
Newsom and this person entrenched in democratic politics? It it's
way too early. Yeah, it's way too early. So much
can happen, I mean, so much can happen. By twenty
twenty eight, we could have another pandemic shut down the world,
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you know, I mean, before before COVID hit and you'd say, well,
anything can happen, you were just kind of saying it.
Now we're kind of in a space where we literally
anything could happen.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
We could get.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Rouped into some sort of weird civil war in this country.
We could have another pandemic, we could have a million
things could happen that would change the entire complexion of
the political land escape.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Up next, one of the other things that could change
the political landscape, Artificial intelligence is tried again. Artificial intelligence
is leaking into country music.
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Speaker 2 (20:20):
I was trying to find a couple of different versions,
a couple of different artists.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It sounds a little bit like Chris Stapleton sort of that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A little bit of that, a little bit of Jelly
Roll with the down Trotten, a little bit of Brothers Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Culter Wall Wall Sorry is another one.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I know you think you've been just kind of an
older school Johnny Cash walk the line kind of feel
to it. And here's the deal. We don't know who
did this. Necessarily. It's been credited to a songwriter called
Abbierre Rivoldo Taylor, but that person also has very limited
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online presence, so we're not even sure if that's a
real person. Abbierre Rivaldo Taylor was previously credited creating music
under an alias called dead Beats Sorry deaf Beats AI,
focusing on explicit AI generated country tracks.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh that was like the country song I played for
you about the booty, the booty, the booty, He's dancing
on my Yeah, that one shocked me because I was
just mine in my own business, listening to Spotify on
my way into work and I just rolled the dice
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with the I think it was the DJ feature something
New Music what have you?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And I was into that song. It got to the
hook and I.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Was like, oh, this is AI porn country.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, weirdly, obviously, I think that guy's really filling.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
That guy is That guy.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is read Dallas.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know, but he got He felt like AI
to me. He got me. I was like okay, and
I was.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like, oh, Breaking Russ does not have the most popular
country song in America right now. I Got Better by
Morgan Wallen is the top of the Billboard Hot Country
Songs chart. Cody Johnson's Traveling Soldier is among streaming platforms
number one.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
But this AI music.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is is it a problem? I mean, obviously, if you're
a songwriter, creator, artist, you think that this is a problem.
But if you're just a listener, are you really that
concerned about it?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, yeah, I think people feel like they're being fooled.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I want that to be the case. I want people,
I think, to know. I think that once people hear
that they don't like that, should.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We I've asked this before, but I wonder if it's
a real thing, do we need to start adding a
disclaimer to this show to say that it's it's real
I mean, think of the hours that we spend writing
and rehearsing all of this. We need to make sure
that people realize that it's we're humans.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, that was not the response.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Remember I didn't know if you were real or not.
I stop listening.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This guy's got this guy. There's at least eight songs
I believe that are credited to Breaking rust Walk. My
Walk is the one that's the most popular right now.
Living on Borrowed Time actually has the most streams on Spotify.
Whiskey Don't Talk Back is another one credited to credit
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credited to Breaking Russ.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Whiskey Don't Talk Back should have been a country song
a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I saw the knockoff version on Team America World Police.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Is Rent, the one that revolves around aids.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Everybody's got aids.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Everyone's got aids? Yes, okay, Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Munks does not have aids. But happy to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From the Team America is everyone has aids. It's a
It's shockingly hilarious. That movie is so funny, so funny.
Rent is Rent's good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I knew you were a theater girly when we talked
about it last week. You knew that is this from Rent.
I don't know what what show could? I have no idea.
I have been asked.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We'll get to Michael here in a second, and actually
important things. I've been asked over and over again if
I would do musicals or if I like musicals. I
enjoy watching a musical, but I do not then go
home and sing the songs. The only songs from any
musicals that I would know are like the first two
songs from Labies.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, that alone is a lot number two I don't
think that's a prerequisite where you just go home and
sing and dance. I think you get asked that question
because everyone who knows you knows you would be wonderful
in musicals. There's so much more for you to give
on stage. And I'm not saying that to be cute.
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I hope they do The Music Man next year and
you are the star. Oh my god, that would be perfect. Yeah,
I would love that. I'm just gonna sit quietly.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And because you can dance, you can sing, and you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Can ever done either one of those things. You can
not Albert Peterson, Bye Bye Birdie. I would cast you now.
I don't know what that is. Dick van Dyke played
him in the movie version and in the Broadway. I
know who Dick van Dyke is.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get a little Dick van Dyk.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, you do a little bet.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Michael Monks has joined us.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He covers a lot of stuff that's going on downtown
LA for KFI News, and one of the big deal
today is the city Council gets to chime in on
the Frank McCourt connected gondola that would go from somewhere
close to downtown up to Dodger Stadium. We've talked about
this for years in that at first it seemed kind
of pie in the sky. Then it started gaining some momentum.
(02:17):
Then the people came in and said, well, you can't
do this. It's going to be bad. You got to
not only do you have to have environmental reviews, you've
got to have like FAA clearance because it's going to
go up into the sky, etc.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Where do we stand on all this, Well, it's still
in the works.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And when you think about the gondola just as announced,
it may seem a bit ridiculous, like why do we
need this?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But after sitting through a few of the meetings and
listening to a lot of the arguments, you do get
an understanding that this might make sense.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Another way to get to Dodger Stadium, because I do
go would be great. Everyone who goes to Dodger Stadium,
who sits in the traffic or the crowded buses or
what have you, knows another way would be great. However,
how many homes would this fly over? Shall we speak?
Because and would there have to be homes demolished?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Again? Shades of the past in Chavez Ravine.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
This is something that would go from Union Station to
Dodger Stadium, and it would be just over a mile
long one point two mile route, and it would go
through those neighborhoods of Chinatown and the La State Historic Park.
And there have been concerns raised by the city council
member who represents that district units He's Hernandez, who is
worried about, yes, possible displacement, which it doesn't look like
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that's going to be a serious issue, but they have
used mechanisms to delay this project and force it back
into legal and civic reviews. And so what they are
asking today, led by Councilmen Hernandez and her allies Isabelle
Herado councilwoman, and Councilmen Hugosota Martinez, they've put forth this
resolution that says let's go in the record as a
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city governing body and say we oppose this project. I
don't expect that it would be a unanimous vote.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I think because of the past and Chavez Ravine, everyone's
hyper sensitive about any sort of project that's going to
that's going to negatively impact the people who do live
there now even more and going in the future. I mean,
imagine you buy a home there and then all of
a sudden, you've got a gondola that's going to be
(04:19):
traversing the airspace above your home.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's awful. I wouldn't want that. Could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, you bought your home, you know, ten years ago,
there's no sight of this thing. It's a whisper maybe
if that, and then all of a sudden it's there's
a something that could crash.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Down on your home at any time.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean, I know that's not going to happen, but
it would be something that gave you some a mild
to severe anxiety.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Would you would have a company with that perspective? There
are residents and business owners in Chinatown in that area
who say this project would harm their community. They say
it would take land away from the public park, the
State Park. That's really the displacement we're talking about. Is
there concern that there will be less access to areas
in La State Park. They also say this project would
(05:05):
actually increase traffic while it's under construction. They say there
will be more noise, and they say their privacy could
be violated. But what's often overlooked from these arguments against
the project, A ton of people who live there support it.
Fifteen thousand people in more than four hundred businesses in Chinatown,
El Pueblo and Lincoln Heights have signed up to support
(05:27):
the project. It also has the backing of organized labor,
business and environmental activists, and that's according to the organization
Zero Emissions Transit. So the reasons they would support that
is you're gonna get more foot traffic in and around
where the gondola takes off takes off, yeah, where it sits,
and then when everybody gets done after the game, you're
(05:48):
gonna have a crap ton of more foot exactly right.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
How would you want that?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I mean, if it takes off from Union Station, it's
already not a really great area where people are like,
h about restaurant nearby?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Should I try?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You go to Union Station to get on the bus
to go to Dodger Station somewhere else? You get to
Union Station to get on the gondola to go to
it wouldn't be one of those places where people would
walk around And I just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And perhaps if there were a better marketing strategy, you
could capitalize on this traffic. Because there's Philips right across
the street, right across the street.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Here's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's the future of what's going to be developed around
Dodger Stadium, not Union Station. Dodger Stadium has all this land,
there's no reason why it shouldn't be a live work place.
Spend all your money on restaurants and shopping when you're
at Dodger Stadium before and after and in the hours
where baseball is not in session, like.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
That area should be.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It should be developed.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And that's what Frank McCort has been banking on for decades.
And so the gondola speaks to at least the landing
spot speaks to what could be or what's going to be,
and how much money that would bring.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You think about why Dodger Stadium looks the way it
does with all of that vast land around it. In fact,
during the World Series, you saw a lot of side
by side images of the stadium in Toronto and the
stadium here in Los Angeles, and a lot of urban
minded people were commenting about what a failure Dodger Stadium
looks like compared to Toronto's, which is right in the
middle of the city and all the parking is basically hidden.
(07:19):
It's part of the city fabric, whereas Dodger Stadium is separated.
And that is because, like most things around here, it
was built with the car in mind. And this gondola
project is built to reduce the number of cars that
might be needed to go up there. And so this
constant conflict that we have here in Los Angeles is
where's parking?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Where are you going to park? What are you going
to do?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we also don't build things here in LA I mean,
this isn't the only item on the agina.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, we're going to talk about something else. You know,
this is something.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
The only transit. Oh, sorry, we're late, we'll come back.
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
We're talking about the gondola project at Dodger Stadium, the
proposed Dodger Stadium gondola. Big vote today at La City
Council for this. Michael Monks from KFI News is on
this and we were talking about how Dodger Stadium was
built car centric at the time, and it's beautiful. It's
a beautiful stadium, arguably top five in the country when
it comes to baseball stadiums. And who doesn't like to
(08:52):
sit at Dodger Stadium at the top deck and look
over and see the you know, the seventy six ball
and the palm trees and the hills and the sunset.
I mean, it is gorgeous. So I think there is
a school of thought leave it be. There's another school
of thought of we're leaving a lot of money on
the table of not developing that land.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Look at what happened around Angel Stadium in the last
twenty five years. That attitude of we have so much
opportunity here for residential properties, for restaurants for every.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, that's a ashole though, that's right by the five.
I mean, it's not like it has the beauty of
Dodger Stadium, no, but just.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The ability the availability of the land there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Sure, But like you said, Michael, it is a car
centric design stadium. And like we said, many modern stadiums
are not. But many modern stadiums are built in cities
where public transit is working and goes to said stadium.
Here it all stops at Union Station, and so that
is part of what the gondola is for. If it
(09:56):
can take what is at five thousand people per hour
up to Dodger Stadium. Yeah, that's a chunk. That's a
sizable chunk that you can get up there without cars.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's exactly right. And so you don't even have to
drive to Union Station. If you live in certain parts
of the region, you could park near one of the
train stops out in your area. And this metro system
warts and all, and let's be clear, I mean, it
has its share of issues and it'll.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Take some time, but it has expanded.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
To be absolutely seen massive investment and now goes from
Long Beach to Pomona on one line. That's that's a
long train line, and so if you're in Pomona, you
can hop on that, come down to Union Station, and yeah,
it may take you an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I took it when I went to go see the Dodgers.
I get on the Gold Line in Arcadia and I
take it straight to Union Station. Get on that bus,
and it's so easy, it's wonderful, and it's cheaper. Parking
is what one hundred bucks exactly, And that is becoming
more of a thing for more people and more parts
of the city.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Even if a train ride, for example, take to take
getting from downtown to right here in Burbank, that's a problem.
I can drive like I do most days now, and
just in case something happens we got to go out
to the.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Scene to something.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It takes in a rush hour between forty five minutes.
In an hour to go those eleven miles, it would
take about forty five minutes if I take the train.
I could take the Bee Line train from Pershing Square
to Studio City and then hop on the Burbank bus.
It's a free transfer because you use the Metro and
it drops off right in front. It takes about the
(11:25):
same amount of time, but you don't have that hassle
of merging and cursing swear.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
A lot of people say, I'll go with the cursing
and the swearing because I don't want to get on
a buck.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I know, and I wish that And this is me editorialized,
and I wish that's what would change, because I thought
it would be better for Metro and everyone who uses
it currently if there were more sane people who were
taking it places, and then you would have more of
a stake in it when you speak about your concerns.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, and to be fair, it is it is fun
to talk about the people masturbating on the platforms and
things like that, but I see more functional people taking
the train than I do the masturbator, sure, to be honest,
you know, and the masturbators get a headlines and the
oxygen because they're fun to talk about. And I think
(12:16):
that that is a bad PR campaign for Metro. They
need to do more in getting out in front of
that problem and highlight the normal people like us who
ride it and find no problem with it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Incidentally, the Masturbators was a minor league baseball team in
Los Angeles the nineteenth century.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Really didn't do well.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Are you making this up like you made up your
career being a stripper.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I didn't make that up.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You did make that up. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I never called myself a stripper. I called myself an
exotic dancer because I have a master's degree. What's the
difference education? Oh, salary, not what that is? Oh, you're
salaried as an exotic dancer. Insurance benefits.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
He doesn't know what he's talking about. I haven't unionized.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Thank you, Michael, it's my pleasure. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Swamp Watch rolls along at the top of the hour.
A bunch of stuff going on in DC houses headed
back into session because they're about to vote on reopening
the government after the shutdown. Of course, the Senate passed
their bill, moves onto the House. The House then will
vote tonight. The expectation is that it will pass. You
(13:27):
never know with Congress. And then, of course, the fallout
from all of that is that the flight cancelations could
continue even if those even if the shutdown is over.
In the Caribbean, our largest aircraft carrier, the USS, gerald
Ford is now in the areas just north of Venezuela.
(13:51):
The entire carrier Strike Group is there with several destroyers
that have Tomahawk missiles that would boost our capability to
attack targets in Venezuela if if it ever comes to that.
So a couple stories that we'll expand on we get
up into swamp watch Gavin Newsom. I wanted to point
this out. Gaven Newsom has been in South America. There
(14:14):
is a state in Brazil that is hosting climate talks,
and there are no representatives that I know of from
the federal government from the Trump administration who are down there.
So Gaven Newsom took it upon himself to represent the
United States, but specifically California in these ongoing talks about
(14:37):
environmental policy, international cooperation, etc.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
A few things about this trip have stood out, and
number one is he is a celebrity. He has now
transcended just being a popular governor and is a celebrity
on the international stage. And the way it's being discussed.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Is well maybe in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I want to be careful when I say this
because and there are a few people.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Brazil is so screwed up, it is so corrupt. The
fact that he's legitimizing them with a visit is a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
He is being recognized by people in Brazil as not
just you know, a governor from an important state in
obviously the important country that is the United States, but
as an up and comer, as a potential presidential candidate.
And I'm sure the politicians in Brazil want to get
on this guy's good side, hedging their bets that eventually
(15:43):
he may be the guy in the White House. There's
an interesting quote that Gavin Newsom told Politico at this
investor conference down in Brazil this week, and he said,
we are at peak influence because of the flat of
the surrounding terrain with the Trump administration and all the anxiety.
(16:04):
The writer in Politico then also says Newsom's profile has
never been higher. Think about the win that he gets
with Prop fifty, obviously, the ongoing back and forth between
he and President Trump, et cetera. But I want to
caution if you're a giant Gavin Newsom twenty eight person,
and you're a person who believes that he should be
(16:25):
the president, he should be the leader of the Democratic Party,
he should be the nominee, et cetera. A few things
to keep in mind, and we talked about this a
little bit before. Those people, those politicians and potential presidential
candidates who were ahead in the polls this early never
(16:46):
went on to be the I shouldn't say never, But
in the numbers that I looked at and the campaigns
I looked at, those leaders early on did not become
their party's nominee. As an example, in two two thousand
and seven, just before the two thousand and eight, in
November of two thousand and seven, a Pew poll had
(17:07):
Barack Obama at twenty two percent. He obviously went on
eventually to become the candidate. Hillary Clinton more than double
his numbers at forty eight percent. Another one from that
same presidential campaign. But on the Republican side, if I
asked you August of two thousand and seven, who were
(17:28):
the two leading Republican candidates for their nomination in that party?
Any idea two top Republicans from two thousand and seven,
is that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The John What's the one who ran off with his
videographer John.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Edward John He was a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I'm talking about Republicans.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm sorry, top Republicans in two thousand, thousand and seven,
before the two thousand McCain, John McCain I think, was
third at that point, okay, and he became the nominee later.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Two thousand and seven feels like lifetimes ago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Rudy Giuliani was in first place with thirty percent. I
liked him in that and Fred Thompson was second. Fred
Thompson from Law and Order.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well from the Senate, but yes, from Law and Order.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And then think about this in twenty eleven, forty years
after that, the three leaders on the Republican side in
August of twenty eleven, according to the Real Clear Politics
average of polls, in third place, you had Hermann Kine
in second place, you had Newt Gingrich and in first
(18:37):
place in August of twenty eleven, christ wrong, not even close.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Michelle Bachman.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The peaking too early when it comes to presidential politics
is a bad thing. And I know that Politico wants
to breathlessly say Gavin Newsom is the president in waiting.
I mean they use the term the climate president in waiting.
But for him, he's got to pull back on that.
(19:05):
I mean, you got to take your foot off, guess
rights on.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
The international trips, got to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Slow down, take it out of fifth gear. If you're
going to survive, what will be a treacherous That's a
good point.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Democratic campaign.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I was talking to a Democrat over the weekend
and saying, you know, what do you think about Gavin
Newsom and this person entrenched in democratic politics? It it's
way too early. Yeah, it's way too early. So much
can happen, I mean, so much can happen. By twenty
twenty eight, we could have another pandemic shut down the world,
(19:37):
you know, I mean, before before COVID hit and you'd say, well,
anything can happen, you were just kind of saying it.
Now we're kind of in a space where we literally
anything could happen.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
We could get.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Rouped into some sort of weird civil war in this country.
We could have another pandemic, we could have a million
things could happen that would change the entire complexion of
the political land escape.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Up next, one of the other things that could change
the political landscape, Artificial intelligence is tried again. Artificial intelligence
is leaking into country music.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I was trying to find a couple of different versions,
a couple of different artists.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It sounds a little bit like Chris Stapleton sort of that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A little bit of that, a little bit of Jelly
Roll with the down Trotten, a little bit of Brothers Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Culter Wall Wall Sorry is another one.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I know you think you've been just kind of an
older school Johnny Cash walk the line kind of feel
to it. And here's the deal. We don't know who
did this. Necessarily. It's been credited to a songwriter called
Abbierre Rivoldo Taylor, but that person also has very limited
(21:00):
online presence, so we're not even sure if that's a
real person. Abbierre Rivaldo Taylor was previously credited creating music
under an alias called dead Beats Sorry deaf Beats AI,
focusing on explicit AI generated country tracks.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh that was like the country song I played for
you about the booty, the booty, the booty, He's dancing
on my Yeah, that one shocked me because I was
just mine in my own business, listening to Spotify on
my way into work and I just rolled the dice
(21:41):
with the I think it was the DJ feature something
New Music what have you?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And I was into that song. It got to the
hook and I.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Was like, oh, this is AI porn country.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, weirdly, obviously, I think that guy's really filling.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
That guy is That guy.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is read Dallas.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know, but he got He felt like AI
to me. He got me. I was like okay, and
I was.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like, oh, Breaking Russ does not have the most popular
country song in America right now. I Got Better by
Morgan Wallen is the top of the Billboard Hot Country
Songs chart. Cody Johnson's Traveling Soldier is among streaming platforms
number one.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
But this AI music.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is is it a problem? I mean, obviously, if you're
a songwriter, creator, artist, you think that this is a problem.
But if you're just a listener, are you really that
concerned about it?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, yeah, I think people feel like they're being fooled.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I want that to be the case. I want people,
I think, to know. I think that once people hear
that they don't like that, should.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We I've asked this before, but I wonder if it's
a real thing, do we need to start adding a
disclaimer to this show to say that it's it's real
I mean, think of the hours that we spend writing
and rehearsing all of this. We need to make sure
that people realize that it's we're humans.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, that was not the response.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Remember I didn't know if you were real or not.
I stop listening.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This guy's got this guy. There's at least eight songs
I believe that are credited to Breaking rust Walk. My
Walk is the one that's the most popular right now.
Living on Borrowed Time actually has the most streams on Spotify.
Whiskey Don't Talk Back is another one credited to credit
(23:46):
credited to Breaking Russ.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Whiskey Don't Talk Back should have been a country song
a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
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