November 12, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary and Shannon break down the latest on the looming government shutdown. Is America’s national “flightmare” finally coming to an end? Tara Suter from The Hill joins the show to explain what’s really going on. Plus, House Democrats release new Epstein-related emails that include references to Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Well, we've got some Epstein emails
to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Today. The headline is much more.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The headline is huge.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Headline is huge.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Emails are really short.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The bark is bigger than the bite. And it does
involve an email about dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Today happens to be a very important anniversary. In fact,
the fifty fifth anniversary. It's gonna be something bad, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Of the whale exploding on the beach in Florence, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, I was so wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was something good twelve nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Are we going to relive that at some moment when
the when the whales blubber was raining upon the town's
children some point here. If you don't know the show,
if you don't know the story, maybe you're new to
the show. There was a whale that washed ashore on
the Oregon coast in nineteen seven, November twelfth, or before
days before November twelfth, And the solution that the transportation
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people came up with because they were tasked with figuring
out what to do with the massive carcass.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The solution they came up.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With is the solution that all boys of a certain
age would come up with.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Let's blow it up. Let's blow it up. Well, we
got a problem, we gotta get rid of it. Let's
blow it up. So that's what they did.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They rigged a whale carcass with explosives, and the entire
town in this Oregon coastal city gathered to watch. And
if you can imagine right now what happened, you're absolutely correct.
It was a horror show. It was not a parade
for everyone to gather and wave. It wasn't exploding dead whale.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They're lucky people didn't get hurt or killed based on
what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So we'll revisit that a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Today we may finally have some end to the government
shutdown after nearly two months.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
The House is back in session later today.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Lawmakers are expected to vote tonight on the Senate backed
bill that would reopen the federal government. Now, there is
still a razor thin majority, at least housewise. I think
it's about six votes right now. So the speaker in
this case, Mike Johnson, is going to need President Trump's
help to push this through, getting on the phone calls,
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et cetera, whipping up the votes. But GOP leadership is
pretty confident that this thing will pass tonight. Then it
goes to the President's tesk for signature to make it
official and an end to the government shutdown.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The air travel situation continues to be a mess. I
read yesterday that it seems like if you are sticking
to the major hubs, you should be okay. It's those
smaller market airports that are being affected, especially with delays.
You mentioned someone going from Burbank to New York a
couple stops in between, and that was going to take
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a long time because of probably those couple stops in between.
If you've gotten an LA to New York flight, you're
probably okay. It's the LA or Burbank to Jacksonville or
whatever where you're going to get into some trouble. As
of this morning, when this was written by CNN, nine
hundred flights within the US have been canceled again. The
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FAA put in that reduction order that by yesterday flights
in forty major hubs around the country would have to
be reduced by six percent. Friday, that number goes up
to ten percent. So this continues.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We know this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Anytime there's a problem with air travel or air traffic
control shortages, the ripples extend past the problem ending.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And some specific airlines we'll see more problems than others
because Southwest, for example, is one of those that goes
point to point. It'll go Sacramento to Burbank, Burbank to Houston,
Houston to Dallas, Dallas to Denver, something like that. They
don't just go La New York, New York, La La
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New York. So some of those flights can have more
of that cascading effect where if that early morning flight
is canceled, the rest of the day is screwed for
that airplane. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy spoke from O'Hare
Airport earlier today.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
If the House doesn't pass this bill, I think you're
gonna look at Saturday, Sunday and Monday. As tiddleywinks it
was beautiful, it's going to get much worse than that.
And I think you're gonna have airlines that make us
serious calculations about whether they continue to fly.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Full stop.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We're playing checkers.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
He got in a tin, he got it in a
tiddley winks and a full stop.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Now, Chicago O'Hare happens to be one of the most
impacted airports over the last couple of days, and there's
a reason why he spent the morning there. Forty five
flights have already been canceled into or sorry out of Chicago,
and another forty six canceled into Chicago O'Hair. That's on
top of about one hundred plus that have been delayed
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just in and out of O'Hair Airport. Now, that's also
a massive, massive hub because it's in the middle of
the country and so many airlines depend on flights in
and out of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
If you are of this century. The saying tiddley winks
originated from the nineteenth century British slang term for an
unlicensed pub known as a tiddleywink, A small place you
can get inexpensive drink there, Oh, little tiddleywink. It means
basically a nothing place, a nothing thing. It is the
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combination of tiddley slang for small and wink, possibly related
to a short time or the winking motion of flicking.
The game was named after this slang term. It's a
popular pastime drinking game in pubs, Tidleywink, where you just
flick these little coins into a cup. You know what
I learned, kind of like quarters, but very rudimentary, without
(05:58):
the drinking.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I learned tiddleywinks. I didn't know. I thought it was
just the game. I didn't realize it came from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right, little pub, a little unlicensed pub, A little room
where you can get a drink at Tiddleywink.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Uh Tarasuitter from the Hill dot com is going to
join us.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
We'll talk about what the government shutdown could mean for
getting our national flight nightmare back to normal.
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Speaker 1 (07:02):
We're talking about the ripples and flight delays from the
government shut down. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy saying that flight
cuts are going to stop only when the data says
we should.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Arra Suter with Theehill.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Dot Com joins us now to kind of parse through
what that means and when we could see things get
back on track.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, Hi, yeah, So basically on Seawn Duffy on yesterday,
he said that currently flight cuts at or No. Forty
airports in the United States are cut by six percent
and they are set to go up at eight percent
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on Thursday at six am, and then ten percent on Friday.
He has warned also that you know, flights could be
massively more disrupted if the House doesn't vote to back
the Senate deal that US went through earlier this week,
and that will go to the President's desk most likely
(08:05):
end the shutdown. But he warned that if fish zone
doesn't end by this weekend, it could get a lot worse.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Does he have a plan or does he have any
sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Idea of what would need to happen assuming the president, well,
assuming the House passes it, assuming the President signs it
into law, how long it would take to get back
up to normal staffing levels.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, he has kind of expressed a little bit of
caution around that. I mean, he said this weekend on
CNN that sit down is going to have a massive
ripple effect basically beyond what when it ends, and that
he had a bunch of air traffic controllers retiring every
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single day, like fifteen to twenty is what he said
on CNN this weekend. Generally he hasn't like given like
a specific deadline as I've seen, but he said it's
going to have lasting effects.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Tarak, great stuff. Thank you for that. I appreciate it.
Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Sean Duffy was at O'Hare Airport early this morning and
I mentioned that O'Hare already has ninety one flights that
have been canceled either into or out of He also
said that, as Shannon mentioned at the beginning, the very
first thing that he's discussing is getting back to normal
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flight loads only when.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The data says we should.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
He says, we're at the cusp of hopefully having the
government reopened concern that we're not going to have on
day one controllers come back into the towers right away.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But even but he said, he is asking them to
do just that. It's their job.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
They will be paid, but it might not be immediate
in that in the way that they come back. He
also referenced the triggering I remember what we called it,
the staffing trick.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's how we referred to it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And he said that four staffing triggers were hit yesterday,
which a staffing trigger means there's not enough people in
that air traffic control tower wherever it happens to be,
and they have to limit traffic in and out of
a specific airport or a specific location. There were four
of them yesterday, he said. Sunday there were fifty three.
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Saturday there were eighty one. So in terms of those
triggers for staffing, they have actually gone down over the
last couple of days, even though the number of flights
that are canceled has gone up to six percent.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If you are flying this week, most airlines say that
they are making sure you have at least twenty four
hours notice if your flight is going to be disrupted.
Obviously check your flight status before you go to the airport,
but they should give you a heads up in the
form of an email or a text, depending on the airline,
within twenty four hours. Some lines have said that they're
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giving a heads up seven days, but that was like
a week ago or so when things were a little
bit less in Flux Air, American Delta, Southwest United have
all informed passengers that they have completed adjustments to their schedules,
including flight cancelations through today. So if you're flying today
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American Delta, Southwest United, you haven't been notified, you're probably
good to go again, check before you leave, and also
probably more affected if you are flying into one of
those regional hub type places, a boise something like that,
as opposed to O'Hare.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And don't forget pack your what pack your patients?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why are you doing?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's what we're supposed to do. Get to is that right?
Holiday travel? Don't forget you kind of do need to
though it is cliche.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yes, but you also don't have to be told not
look up when the rain is falling.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you got a point.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I have a real problem with pack your patients for
a couple reasons.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Number one, it's trite and awful. Number two, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Pack it, freaking wear it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Hold it in your hand.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Because if it's packed with all your stuff and it's
in the belly of the plane or it's in the overhead,
you're without it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Get to it when you need it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Keep it in your hand with your phone.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Reminder that on Friday, we're going to be live at
lucid Or Brewing and Chinoills for our latest news and
Bruce coming out.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
We have a bunch of stuff we're giving away. Special
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Speaker 4 (12:37):
Be stopping by as well to help kick off their
Hops in the Hills event over this weekend. Again, we'll
be out there starting at nine o'clock on Friday.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Michael Monks will come and join us at ten o'clock
after Amy's news. Big day at La City Hall. A
rent stable is on the dockets. So is Frank McCourt's gondola.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Oh yeah, I think the city's going to come out
against Frank McCourt and the gondola, specifically.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The gondola would happen maybe if Frank McCourt's name was
far from it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Ex Yes, House of Representatives is expected to vote later
today on ending the longest government shutdown in history. This
bill would fund all federal operations at least through January thirtieth.
It did clear the Rules Committee along party lines. The
expectation is that there will be a couple of Republicans
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that might need some convincing, but that this thing will
pass later today. Of course, we'll keep you updated throughout
the day on KFI News.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
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Have you heard about this?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Me neither.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's easy to do, especially with the state of country
music today. I love country music. It ain't good right now.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
There's not a.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Lot of great music period right now. It's a low bar.
But it is also frightening how how it meets that bar,
whatever bar it is like that. They it's fool in
a lot of people, all right. So today, and the timing,
of course is important. But today House Democrats have released
some emails in which Jeffrey Epstein sent messages and discussed
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Donald Trump, suggesting that Trump knew more about all of
the abuse that was going on than he has acknowledged. Now,
there's important things to remember here. A these were picked
and chosen by people of the opposite political parties, So
there's take that into account. The second thing is that
there are thousands of emails that have been poured through,
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most of them that did not mention Donald Trump. I'm
not defending him, I'm just laying out the facts here.
And the third thing.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is they're not very long. These are not like multi.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Paragraph missives where Jeffrey Epp Epstein explains Donald Trump's involvement
or non involvement in all of this. There's just three emails,
one of them to Glaine Maxwell, the other two to
author Michael Wolfe.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Now, Trump is called Epstein a creep, insisted he never
engaged in any wrongdoing with him or Glaine Maxwell. Trump
and Epstein both split their time between New York and
Palm Beach. They were friends in the nineties. In early
two thousands, they had a falling out. Nobody disputes that
it appeared to be around two thousand and four that
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their relationship fizzled out. But why that's the thing that's
open for interpretation. Trump has said that he thought that
Epstein was hiring away spa attendance from mar A Lago,
that he kicked Epstein out of the club, that he
thought he was a creep, and that one of the
women that Epstein had hired away from Trump's mar A
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Lago was Virginia Guffrey, the woman who went on to
say that Prince Andrew used her for sex and later
killed herself.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
In an email that was sent to Gleainne Maxwell April
of twenty eleven, Jeffrey Epstein writes, I want you to
realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
A victim.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We believe it's Virginia Guffrey, like you said, spent hours
at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned,
police chief, etc. I'm seventy five percent there. I have
no idea what those last two phrases mean.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Now, let's just pull the car over. Let's just say.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Trump was the dog that didn't bark, meaning that he
wasn't going to raise any questions about this.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He wasn't going to ruffle any fevers.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
At the time, it was twenty eleven, he was a
reality TV star on The Apprentice, tabloid celebrity, a fixture
in New York Tabloid's real estate magnet caricature of the
real estate New York guy.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And I don't think anybody outside of those very high
end circles had any clue who Jeffrey Epstein was exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
The fact that Trump alone spent hours with Virginia Guffrey
in a home is problematic on its face. What the
hell to business do they have together? But let's not
be Pollyanna. Let's not pretend we live in a world
where rich and powerful men don't enjoy the company of
young women. Let's just all be adult about it and
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realize that this goes on. You know what, you just
got to hold your nose because it happens. The political
elite think that they can do whatever they want, and
I mean both parties. If you look at the Jeffrey
Epstein pictures and the flight logs, nobody's clean of this,
all right, Bill Clinton right there with Donald Trump and
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all of this, So nobody's clean.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So let's just get rid of that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Whole Pollyanna vibe. Donald Trump was never going to raise
the red flag, mister Epstein as The New York Times
likes to call him, but neither was anybody else because
nobody wanted their name connected to this guy. To raise
your hand and say this guy's doing wrong is to
say you know enough to know he's doing wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, And that evidence of that was.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Clarified when the US Attorney in Florida didn't want to
put this guy away for decades and came up with
some cocamani deal because.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Epstein was the charges.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because Epstein spread his money around to the law enforcement
community as well, he had everybody paid off politics, law enforcement.
Everything nobody was clean in this orbit.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's two other emails to Michael Wolf, the timing of
which are important as well. Again, that first email was
from twenty eleven. These are from twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen,
when President Trump was very high profile running for president
or had been president.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We'll get into those when we come back.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
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Speaker 3 (19:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So you're gonna have You're gonna go to wals here
Democrats going against the Senate Democrats. John Fetterman is one
of those guys who is getting a lot of heat
as well. I mean, he's out with a book, so
he's kind of been around selling that. But he was
also one of those people who has very vocally opposed
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the main Democrats in that m AI N Democrats, not
m A N E Democrats, who have been opposed to
ending the government shutdown. And his argument was, we have
millions of people not being paid. That's not good for
any Democrat. We've got Kennedy in the political game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I saw that Schlossburg. This is JFK's grandson.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's got a bit of a not a bit dedicated,
large following on social media. Served as political correspondent at
Vogue ahead of the twenty twenty four election. How Jackie
O JFK is that now he's looking at Nadler's seat,
a deep blue New York House seat being vacated by
Jerry Nadler. He had said he will not be seeking
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a reelection in September. So Jack slashburg slash you say,
it's tough, Slaburg Slaw and the Aus and the Burg altogether,
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Earlier today, House Democrats release some emails in which they
say Jeffrey Epstein sent messages suggesting that Donald Trump knew
more about sex. Epstein's abuse than he had acknowledged or
let on the headline is huge. The emails are very short.
There's only three of them. I already read you the
one that he sent to Gallaine Maxwell in twenty eleven,
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in January of twenty Well, let's do the Let's do
him in chronological order, just to keep it straight. In no,
December of twenty fifteen, so this would have been when
President Trump was sort of moving his way up the
poll up in the polls before the primaries for the
twenty sixteen election, and Jeffrey Epstein was talking with author
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Michael Woolf.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Can I just say that even the email addresses and
the way people's names are reflected in these emails is gross.
For instance, Jeffrey Epstein's Gmail account is j ee vacation,
like Jeffrey Epstein Vacation, which just grosses me out because
you know one of epstein vacation entails, don't you? You
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know underage Hooker Island basically. And then he has Glenne Maxwell.
Jeffrey Epstein does has her in his contact list as
g Max.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's gross to me too. Anyway, go on, there.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Was a debate on December fifteenth, twenty fifteen, CNN hosted
the debate apparently, and this is back when they still
had too many candidates, and they did two different debate stages.
President Trump then Candidate Trump was on the main stage,
and Michael Wolfe wrote to Jeffrey Epstein, I hear CNN
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planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you,
either on air or in the scrum afterwards. Jeffrey Epstein
replies a couple hours later, if we were able to
craft an answer for him, what do you.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Think it should be?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And Michael Wolfe says, I think you should let him
hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the
plane or to the house, then that gives you a
valuable pr and political currency. You can hang him in
a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you,
or if it really looks like he could win, you
could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is
possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffrey's a great guy
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and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim
of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a
Trump regime.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Let's pull the car over right there. Why is this
in writing? Why is this just not understood by Jeffrey Epstein?
This is almost like a book where the author has
to lay it out for a reader who is not
really in tune with what's happening here.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, I thought the same thing, I mean, same way
of If this guy smart enough, evil, genius, and able
to pull off this massive network of trafficking young women
and girls, how can it be so stupid to communicate
these things openly? I mean, we all probably have some
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belief that email is not open, but obviously every day
we talk about somebody whose emails get either hacked into
or discovered through you know, searches, warranted searches. That it's
not a private communication, even though you may believe it is.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, and why does it need to be communicated to
Jeffrey Epstein that he has leverage over anybody that' sat
on that plane and has a potential to become president.
Of course he has leverage. Of course he can get
Trump to do whatever he wants him to do. If
Trump had a seat on that plane, the same way
Epstein was able to get anything he wanted done by
any of the power players. Took advantage of the underage
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girl's racket that he provided.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
The third email comes January of twenty nineteen, so Trump
had been president already. And again this is between Michael
Wolfe and Jeffrey Epstein. There's a reference to mar A Lago.
Some of this is redacted, so we don't have the
full language. But Trump said he asked me to resign,
never a member.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Of course he knew about the girls as he asked
Glaine to stop. So that's some kind of a reference.
You know, we know that Ghlaine Maxwell was recruiting girls
from mar A Lago to become the massage or provider,
whatever term you wanted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
This email you got to take into well. I mean,
it just helps when you put it in the context
that it was sent in twenty nineteen. This seems like
a plan to the email that he put in writing.
Of course he knew about the girls, he asked Alaine
to stop. That's like a mitigating factor in Trump just
getting that dirt off of his hands, right. I feel
like that was a that was a favor of Jeffrey Epstein,
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that that Trump had asked Elaine to stop. You know,
it's like if if you're gonna if you're going to
go with your buddies and the goals to go kill someone.
And you're on your way there, and even though you've
agreed to go kill this guy, if you at any
point say, hey, you know what, let's stop this. I
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don't want to do it. I don't want to do
it anymore. Let's just let's let's let's give up on
this plan. Let's not kill this guy, and they continue
to drive the car. At that point, you've got kind
of an out for yourself. You know, You've got a
mitigating factor into Hey, I tried to stop this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Interesting, all right, Well, more of this is going to
come out. We could see the House vote on releasing
more Stein files soon, with a new member being sworn
in today too, Michael Monto when we come back right
after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Today. The headline is much more.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The headline is huge.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Headline is huge.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Emails are really short.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The bark is bigger than the bite. And it does
involve an email about dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Today happens to be a very important anniversary. In fact,
the fifty fifth anniversary. It's gonna be something bad, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Of the whale exploding on the beach in Florence, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, I was so wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was something good twelve nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Are we going to relive that at some moment when
the when the whales blubber was raining upon the town's
children some point here. If you don't know the show,
if you don't know the story, maybe you're new to
the show. There was a whale that washed ashore on
the Oregon coast in nineteen seven, November twelfth, or before
days before November twelfth, And the solution that the transportation
(01:08):
people came up with because they were tasked with figuring
out what to do with the massive carcass.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The solution they came up.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With is the solution that all boys of a certain
age would come up with.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Let's blow it up. Let's blow it up. Well, we
got a problem, we gotta get rid of it. Let's
blow it up. So that's what they did.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They rigged a whale carcass with explosives, and the entire
town in this Oregon coastal city gathered to watch. And
if you can imagine right now what happened, you're absolutely correct.
It was a horror show. It was not a parade
for everyone to gather and wave. It wasn't exploding dead whale.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They're lucky people didn't get hurt or killed based on
what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So we'll revisit that a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Today we may finally have some end to the government
shutdown after nearly two months.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
The House is back in session later today.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Lawmakers are expected to vote tonight on the Senate backed
bill that would reopen the federal government. Now, there is
still a razor thin majority, at least housewise. I think
it's about six votes right now. So the speaker in
this case, Mike Johnson, is going to need President Trump's
help to push this through, getting on the phone calls,
(02:22):
et cetera, whipping up the votes. But GOP leadership is
pretty confident that this thing will pass tonight. Then it
goes to the President's tesk for signature to make it
official and an end to the government shutdown.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The air travel situation continues to be a mess. I
read yesterday that it seems like if you are sticking
to the major hubs, you should be okay. It's those
smaller market airports that are being affected, especially with delays.
You mentioned someone going from Burbank to New York a
couple stops in between, and that was going to take
(02:56):
a long time because of probably those couple stops in between.
If you've gotten an LA to New York flight, you're
probably okay. It's the LA or Burbank to Jacksonville or
whatever where you're going to get into some trouble. As
of this morning, when this was written by CNN, nine
hundred flights within the US have been canceled again. The
(03:17):
FAA put in that reduction order that by yesterday flights
in forty major hubs around the country would have to
be reduced by six percent. Friday, that number goes up
to ten percent. So this continues.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We know this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Anytime there's a problem with air travel or air traffic
control shortages, the ripples extend past the problem ending.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And some specific airlines we'll see more problems than others
because Southwest, for example, is one of those that goes
point to point. It'll go Sacramento to Burbank, Burbank to Houston,
Houston to Dallas, Dallas to Denver, something like that. They
don't just go La New York, New York, La La
(04:05):
New York. So some of those flights can have more
of that cascading effect where if that early morning flight
is canceled, the rest of the day is screwed for
that airplane. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy spoke from O'Hare
Airport earlier today.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
If the House doesn't pass this bill, I think you're
gonna look at Saturday, Sunday and Monday. As tiddleywinks it
was beautiful, it's going to get much worse than that.
And I think you're gonna have airlines that make us
serious calculations about whether they continue to fly.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Full stop.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We're playing checkers.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
He got in a tin, he got it in a
tiddley winks and a full stop.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Now, Chicago O'Hare happens to be one of the most
impacted airports over the last couple of days, and there's
a reason why he spent the morning there. Forty five
flights have already been canceled into or sorry out of Chicago,
and another forty six canceled into Chicago O'Hair. That's on
top of about one hundred plus that have been delayed
(05:07):
just in and out of O'Hair Airport. Now, that's also
a massive, massive hub because it's in the middle of
the country and so many airlines depend on flights in
and out of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
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originated from the nineteenth century British slang term for an
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can get inexpensive drink there, Oh, little tiddleywink. It means
basically a nothing place, a nothing thing. It is the
(05:38):
combination of tiddley slang for small and wink, possibly related
to a short time or the winking motion of flicking.
The game was named after this slang term. It's a
popular pastime drinking game in pubs, Tidleywink, where you just
flick these little coins into a cup. You know what
I learned, kind of like quarters, but very rudimentary, without
(05:58):
the drinking.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I learned tiddleywinks. I didn't know. I thought it was
just the game. I didn't realize it came from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right, little pub, a little unlicensed pub, A little room
where you can get a drink at Tiddleywink.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
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Speaker 4 (06:11):
We'll talk about what the government shutdown could mean for
getting our national flight nightmare back to normal.
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Speaker 1 (07:02):
We're talking about the ripples and flight delays from the
government shut down. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy saying that flight
cuts are going to stop only when the data says
we should.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Arra Suter with Theehill.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Dot Com joins us now to kind of parse through
what that means and when we could see things get
back on track.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, Hi, yeah, So basically on Seawn Duffy on yesterday,
he said that currently flight cuts at or No. Forty
airports in the United States are cut by six percent
and they are set to go up at eight percent
(07:44):
on Thursday at six am, and then ten percent on Friday.
He has warned also that you know, flights could be
massively more disrupted if the House doesn't vote to back
the Senate deal that US went through earlier this week,
and that will go to the President's desk most likely
(08:05):
end the shutdown. But he warned that if fish zone
doesn't end by this weekend, it could get a lot worse.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Does he have a plan or does he have any
sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Idea of what would need to happen assuming the president, well,
assuming the House passes it, assuming the President signs it
into law, how long it would take to get back
up to normal staffing levels.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, he has kind of expressed a little bit of
caution around that. I mean, he said this weekend on
CNN that sit down is going to have a massive
ripple effect basically beyond what when it ends, and that
he had a bunch of air traffic controllers retiring every
(08:51):
single day, like fifteen to twenty is what he said
on CNN this weekend. Generally he hasn't like given like
a specific deadline as I've seen, but he said it's
going to have lasting effects.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Tarak, great stuff. Thank you for that. I appreciate it.
Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Sean Duffy was at O'Hare Airport early this morning and
I mentioned that O'Hare already has ninety one flights that
have been canceled either into or out of He also
said that, as Shannon mentioned at the beginning, the very
first thing that he's discussing is getting back to normal
(09:32):
flight loads only when.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The data says we should.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
He says, we're at the cusp of hopefully having the
government reopened concern that we're not going to have on
day one controllers come back into the towers right away.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But even but he said, he is asking them to
do just that. It's their job.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
They will be paid, but it might not be immediate
in that in the way that they come back. He
also referenced the triggering I remember what we called it,
the staffing trick.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's how we referred to it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And he said that four staffing triggers were hit yesterday,
which a staffing trigger means there's not enough people in
that air traffic control tower wherever it happens to be,
and they have to limit traffic in and out of
a specific airport or a specific location. There were four
of them yesterday, he said. Sunday there were fifty three.
(10:24):
Saturday there were eighty one. So in terms of those
triggers for staffing, they have actually gone down over the
last couple of days, even though the number of flights
that are canceled has gone up to six percent.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If you are flying this week, most airlines say that
they are making sure you have at least twenty four
hours notice if your flight is going to be disrupted.
Obviously check your flight status before you go to the airport,
but they should give you a heads up in the
form of an email or a text, depending on the airline,
within twenty four hours. Some lines have said that they're
(11:01):
giving a heads up seven days, but that was like
a week ago or so when things were a little
bit less in Flux Air, American Delta, Southwest United have
all informed passengers that they have completed adjustments to their schedules,
including flight cancelations through today. So if you're flying today
(11:22):
American Delta, Southwest United, you haven't been notified, you're probably
good to go again, check before you leave, and also
probably more affected if you are flying into one of
those regional hub type places, a boise something like that,
as opposed to O'Hare.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And don't forget pack your what pack your patients?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why are you doing?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's what we're supposed to do. Get to is that right?
Holiday travel? Don't forget you kind of do need to
though it is cliche.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yes, but you also don't have to be told not
look up when the rain is falling.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you got a point.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I have a real problem with pack your patients for
a couple reasons.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Number one, it's trite and awful. Number two, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Pack it, freaking wear it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Hold it in your hand.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Because if it's packed with all your stuff and it's
in the belly of the plane or it's in the overhead,
you're without it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Get to it when you need it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Keep it in your hand with your phone.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Reminder that on Friday, we're going to be live at
lucid Or Brewing and Chinoills for our latest news and
Bruce coming out.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
We have a bunch of stuff we're giving away. Special
guests are going to.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Be stopping by as well to help kick off their
Hops in the Hills event over this weekend. Again, we'll
be out there starting at nine o'clock on Friday.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Michael Monks will come and join us at ten o'clock
after Amy's news. Big day at La City Hall. A
rent stable is on the dockets. So is Frank McCourt's gondola.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Oh yeah, I think the city's going to come out
against Frank McCourt and the gondola, specifically.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The gondola would happen maybe if Frank McCourt's name was
far from it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Ex Yes, House of Representatives is expected to vote later
today on ending the longest government shutdown in history. This
bill would fund all federal operations at least through January thirtieth.
It did clear the Rules Committee along party lines. The
expectation is that there will be a couple of Republicans
(13:35):
that might need some convincing, but that this thing will
pass later today. Of course, we'll keep you updated throughout
the day on KFI News.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
The number one country song in the United States. AI.
Have you heard about this?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Me neither.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's easy to do, especially with the state of country
music today. I love country music. It ain't good right now.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
There's not a.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Lot of great music period right now. It's a low bar.
But it is also frightening how how it meets that bar,
whatever bar it is like that. They it's fool in
a lot of people, all right. So today, and the timing,
of course is important. But today House Democrats have released
some emails in which Jeffrey Epstein sent messages and discussed
(14:23):
Donald Trump, suggesting that Trump knew more about all of
the abuse that was going on than he has acknowledged. Now,
there's important things to remember here. A these were picked
and chosen by people of the opposite political parties, So
there's take that into account. The second thing is that
there are thousands of emails that have been poured through,
(14:46):
most of them that did not mention Donald Trump. I'm
not defending him, I'm just laying out the facts here.
And the third thing.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is they're not very long. These are not like multi.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Paragraph missives where Jeffrey Epp Epstein explains Donald Trump's involvement
or non involvement in all of this. There's just three emails,
one of them to Glaine Maxwell, the other two to
author Michael Wolfe.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Now, Trump is called Epstein a creep, insisted he never
engaged in any wrongdoing with him or Glaine Maxwell. Trump
and Epstein both split their time between New York and
Palm Beach. They were friends in the nineties. In early
two thousands, they had a falling out. Nobody disputes that
it appeared to be around two thousand and four that
(15:33):
their relationship fizzled out. But why that's the thing that's
open for interpretation. Trump has said that he thought that
Epstein was hiring away spa attendance from mar A Lago,
that he kicked Epstein out of the club, that he
thought he was a creep, and that one of the
women that Epstein had hired away from Trump's mar A
(15:55):
Lago was Virginia Guffrey, the woman who went on to
say that Prince Andrew used her for sex and later
killed herself.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
In an email that was sent to Gleainne Maxwell April
of twenty eleven, Jeffrey Epstein writes, I want you to
realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
A victim.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We believe it's Virginia Guffrey, like you said, spent hours
at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned,
police chief, etc. I'm seventy five percent there. I have
no idea what those last two phrases mean.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Now, let's just pull the car over. Let's just say.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Trump was the dog that didn't bark, meaning that he
wasn't going to raise any questions about this.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He wasn't going to ruffle any fevers.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
At the time, it was twenty eleven, he was a
reality TV star on The Apprentice, tabloid celebrity, a fixture
in New York Tabloid's real estate magnet caricature of the
real estate New York guy.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And I don't think anybody outside of those very high
end circles had any clue who Jeffrey Epstein was exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
The fact that Trump alone spent hours with Virginia Guffrey
in a home is problematic on its face. What the
hell to business do they have together? But let's not
be Pollyanna. Let's not pretend we live in a world
where rich and powerful men don't enjoy the company of
young women. Let's just all be adult about it and
(17:27):
realize that this goes on. You know what, you just
got to hold your nose because it happens. The political
elite think that they can do whatever they want, and
I mean both parties. If you look at the Jeffrey
Epstein pictures and the flight logs, nobody's clean of this,
all right, Bill Clinton right there with Donald Trump and
(17:49):
all of this, So nobody's clean.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So let's just get rid of that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Whole Pollyanna vibe. Donald Trump was never going to raise
the red flag, mister Epstein as The New York Times
likes to call him, but neither was anybody else because
nobody wanted their name connected to this guy. To raise
your hand and say this guy's doing wrong is to
say you know enough to know he's doing wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, And that evidence of that was.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Clarified when the US Attorney in Florida didn't want to
put this guy away for decades and came up with
some cocamani deal because.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Epstein was the charges.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because Epstein spread his money around to the law enforcement
community as well, he had everybody paid off politics, law enforcement.
Everything nobody was clean in this orbit.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's two other emails to Michael Wolf, the timing of
which are important as well. Again, that first email was
from twenty eleven. These are from twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen,
when President Trump was very high profile running for president
or had been president.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We'll get into those when we come back.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So you're gonna have You're gonna go to wals here
Democrats going against the Senate Democrats. John Fetterman is one
of those guys who is getting a lot of heat
as well. I mean, he's out with a book, so
he's kind of been around selling that. But he was
also one of those people who has very vocally opposed
(19:29):
the main Democrats in that m AI N Democrats, not
m A N E Democrats, who have been opposed to
ending the government shutdown. And his argument was, we have
millions of people not being paid. That's not good for
any Democrat. We've got Kennedy in the political game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I saw that Schlossburg. This is JFK's grandson.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's got a bit of a not a bit dedicated,
large following on social media. Served as political correspondent at
Vogue ahead of the twenty twenty four election. How Jackie
O JFK is that now he's looking at Nadler's seat,
a deep blue New York House seat being vacated by
Jerry Nadler. He had said he will not be seeking
(20:20):
a reelection in September. So Jack slashburg slash you say,
it's tough, Slaburg Slaw and the Aus and the Burg altogether,
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Earlier today, House Democrats release some emails in which they
say Jeffrey Epstein sent messages suggesting that Donald Trump knew
more about sex. Epstein's abuse than he had acknowledged or
let on the headline is huge. The emails are very short.
There's only three of them. I already read you the
one that he sent to Gallaine Maxwell in twenty eleven,
(20:53):
in January of twenty Well, let's do the Let's do
him in chronological order, just to keep it straight. In no,
December of twenty fifteen, so this would have been when
President Trump was sort of moving his way up the
poll up in the polls before the primaries for the
twenty sixteen election, and Jeffrey Epstein was talking with author
(21:19):
Michael Woolf.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Can I just say that even the email addresses and
the way people's names are reflected in these emails is gross.
For instance, Jeffrey Epstein's Gmail account is j ee vacation,
like Jeffrey Epstein Vacation, which just grosses me out because
you know one of epstein vacation entails, don't you? You
(21:42):
know underage Hooker Island basically. And then he has Glenne Maxwell.
Jeffrey Epstein does has her in his contact list as
g Max.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's gross to me too. Anyway, go on, there.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Was a debate on December fifteenth, twenty fifteen, CNN hosted
the debate apparently, and this is back when they still
had too many candidates, and they did two different debate stages.
President Trump then Candidate Trump was on the main stage,
and Michael Wolfe wrote to Jeffrey Epstein, I hear CNN
(22:18):
planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you,
either on air or in the scrum afterwards. Jeffrey Epstein
replies a couple hours later, if we were able to
craft an answer for him, what do you.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Think it should be?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And Michael Wolfe says, I think you should let him
hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the
plane or to the house, then that gives you a
valuable pr and political currency. You can hang him in
a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you,
or if it really looks like he could win, you
could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is
possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffrey's a great guy
(22:52):
and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim
of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a
Trump regime.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Let's pull the car over right there. Why is this
in writing? Why is this just not understood by Jeffrey Epstein?
This is almost like a book where the author has
to lay it out for a reader who is not
really in tune with what's happening here.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, I thought the same thing, I mean, same way
of If this guy smart enough, evil, genius, and able
to pull off this massive network of trafficking young women
and girls, how can it be so stupid to communicate
these things openly? I mean, we all probably have some
(23:36):
belief that email is not open, but obviously every day
we talk about somebody whose emails get either hacked into
or discovered through you know, searches, warranted searches. That it's
not a private communication, even though you may believe it is.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, and why does it need to be communicated to
Jeffrey Epstein that he has leverage over anybody that' sat
on that plane and has a potential to become president.
Of course he has leverage. Of course he can get
Trump to do whatever he wants him to do. If
Trump had a seat on that plane, the same way
Epstein was able to get anything he wanted done by
any of the power players. Took advantage of the underage
(24:15):
girl's racket that he provided.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
The third email comes January of twenty nineteen, so Trump
had been president already. And again this is between Michael
Wolfe and Jeffrey Epstein. There's a reference to mar A Lago.
Some of this is redacted, so we don't have the
full language. But Trump said he asked me to resign,
never a member.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Of course he knew about the girls as he asked
Glaine to stop. So that's some kind of a reference.
You know, we know that Ghlaine Maxwell was recruiting girls
from mar A Lago to become the massage or provider,
whatever term you wanted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
This email you got to take into well. I mean,
it just helps when you put it in the context
that it was sent in twenty nineteen. This seems like
a plan to the email that he put in writing.
Of course he knew about the girls, he asked Alaine
to stop. That's like a mitigating factor in Trump just
getting that dirt off of his hands, right. I feel
like that was a that was a favor of Jeffrey Epstein,
(25:14):
that that Trump had asked Elaine to stop. You know,
it's like if if you're gonna if you're going to
go with your buddies and the goals to go kill someone.
And you're on your way there, and even though you've
agreed to go kill this guy, if you at any
point say, hey, you know what, let's stop this. I
(25:36):
don't want to do it. I don't want to do
it anymore. Let's just let's let's let's give up on
this plan. Let's not kill this guy, and they continue
to drive the car. At that point, you've got kind
of an out for yourself. You know, You've got a
mitigating factor into Hey, I tried to stop this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Interesting, all right, Well, more of this is going to
come out. We could see the House vote on releasing
more Stein files soon, with a new member being sworn
in today too, Michael Monto when we come back right
after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.