February 3, 2025 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon have the latest stories out of Washinton during Swamp Watch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Monday, February third, twenty twenty five,
there was.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
A we'll get into the tariff thing here in just
a second. There was a story that I saw earlier
that lawyers for Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni were in
court today. For the love my wife was reading through
a bunch of that stuff over the weekend with I mean,
she had more fun reading that with like a box
of popcorn. Really, she said it was.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I look forward to her just giving me the cliff
notes because I am with you, like I'm with you
when you're oversaturated with Taylor Swift. I am oversaturated with
Blake Lively Justin Baldoni news.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Here's a I guess there's more protesters in downtown LA.
There's like sevens there's seven or eight people. There's a
Jeffrey Epstein angle to this, Oh, Blake Lively Justin Maldoni thing. Apparently,
Sigrid McAuley, best known for representing Jeffrey Epstein's victims, is
one of the lawyers that has gotten involved.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
With this that's a name that just to me shouts
from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Which one Jeffrey Epstein or Sigrid McCauley.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sigrid Sigfredigrid Sigrid McCauley screams like East Coast prep school?
Maybe people a dungeon, what robes? All sorts of nefarious things,
skull and skull and bones, society of things. Also, schools
are closed and emergency crews have been deployed on Santorini,
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the Greek island of Santorini. There's a spike in seismic
activity and they are concerned about a potentially powerful earthquake there.
Precautions also ordered on several nearby islands in the GNC
all very popular summer vacation destinations. They said more than
two hundred undersea earthquakes have been recorded in the area
over just the last three days.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Sigrid mcaulay is a female. Interesting You didn't think Sigrid
sounded female? No like a female name. No, all right,
it's time for swamp water. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The other side never quits. So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So that now you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Drain the squaw, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have
always been going.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch
They're all counternoying the tariff thing. President Trump has said
that the terrorists would go into effect midnight, DC time,
one minute after midnight, and as of right now, the
twenty five percent tariff on goods from Mexico is on
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pause because he and the president of Mexico have agreed
to some of the conditions, including Mexico sending about ten
thousand National Guard soldiers to the border to try to
prevent the crossing a fentanyl and people and things like that.
But this doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet.
In terms of what could be a trade war, Senator
Chuck Schumer had said, this is a bad idea.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
We're now in a trade war with Mexico and Canada.
Hi for the American people, it'll now be a war
between prices and their paychecks. That is the last thing
we need. So if you think that this is good,
if someone tries to convince you President Trump or anyone
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else that this is good for the American family, I
have a bridge in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I can tell you. Was this a bluff all along?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Was there ever going to be Is there ever going
to be a shutdown on trade or the twenty five
percent tariffs on Mexico? Or was this all just for show?
And the two sides wanted to a peer that they
were stricter than they were and this was always going
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to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I don't think it was a bluff because a
bluff would indicate that he never intended to that. Trump
never intended to put the terris in place. And I
think he fully intends to put them in place, because
this was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The reason I bring that up. This was a common
conversation among investors on Wall Street. Is he bluffing right?
Because it was going to be a big swing with
everyone's money, Whether it was a bluff or not.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I yeah, I don't think it's a bluff because but
it is a negotiating tactic, and this is what he does.
That's exactly this is his game plan. He's done this forever.
He's the guy who wrote or the deal. I mean
this is he knows what this is and he knows
what he's doing. Do I think it's a great idea?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I hate the idea that we've been struggling through inflation
and all this is going to do is add more
inflation if in fact they go into effect. But I mean,
we saw this earlier today in pre market trading. The Dow,
for example, was down like six hundred points. It has
rebounded significantly, especially since we got word that Mexico has
capitulated to a large degree. So the Dow right now
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is only down fourteen points. It's almost break even and
could potentially in the next couple of hours still do
a nice positive run to end the day in positive territory. Now,
around the world, things were not so good. All of
the European indexes were down about a point. The Asian
indexes were down almost three points, so or three percentage points,
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I should say. So this does have worldwide repercussions. But again,
this is what he was planning the whole time. He
wanted to force Mexico to the table and they came.
Now he's going to try to force Canada to the
table and we shall see what happens. The story out
of DC is that he has a phone call at
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least with with Justin Trudeau coming up at about noon today,
so maybe they agree. Maybe Justin TRUDEU sticks by his
Disney pants and says, we're going to take this to
the We're going to take it to the court, or
we're going to take it to the field. We're going
to do trying to think of a sports analogy, it
ain't working.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Coming up next, we will go to the AI desk Open.
AI last week released a tool that can shop for
your groceries, book a restaurant for you. Now they can
gather information from across the Internet and boil it down
into concise reports. Cliff notes AI you no longer have
to deploy your team of girlfriends to find out about.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That first date. Elon Musk says us aid is a
ball of worms. It's not an apple with worms in it.
It's just a ball of worms like Medusa's hair. That's
the whole thing. So this Agency for International Development is
being gutted. It is one of the major things that
Elon Musk has been doing while exerting his control of
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the Department of Government Efficiency, joining us talk more about this,
Joe Khalil from DC and Joe, let's discuss what kind
of things Elon Musk can do as the appointed head
of this brand new government agency.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
So you hit the exact point of contention, because we
have no idea legally what he can or cannot do.
Democrats today jumped out on this story there in front
of the USAID building, saying it is illegal for Elon
Musk or for anyone up to an including President Trump,
to just unilaterally shut down of federal government agency like USAID,
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which has thirty billion dollar budget every single year. But
Elon Musk very clearly wants to shut it down. He's
not mincing words he talked about with the ball of worms.
I think he tweeted something like thirty six times over
the last two or three days about USAID. At one
point he said it needs to die. So he's making
crystal clear where he stands on that. What is actually
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happening right now is the Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
just in the last two hours said that his department,
the State Department, is actually taking over USAID. It's no
longer going to be an independent agency. But the Secretary
of State says he's going to have the last word
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on where money goes. There's a lot of debate about,
you know, whether USAID is spending too much money, does
it spend money in places where we shouldn't be Democrats
today say it's vital to our national security.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
To have USAID in place.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So there's a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
We can imagine this manned up in the courts.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What is USAID for people who are just learning about it?
Is this something tied to for extance, for example, our
assistance to Ukraine the battle putin?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What is the budget of USAID?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, so it's the largest agency we have in the
US government that gives money to more than one hundred
countries all over the world. And the idea in concept
and theory is that let's say there's a small democracy
somewhere near China and they're going through government, you know, disarray,
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there's poverty there. US age dollars might then flow to
that country, with the thought being that if that country
is actually more stable than it is, you know, in
poverty and in disarray, that makes the region more stable,
and you know, if there is potentially a conflict with
China or Russia or someone else, that that would be
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an asset where the United States might get some benefit
rather than it may be falling into the hands an
influence of China and Russia and then working.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Against the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And that concept is actually agreed upon by everybody, accept
Elon Musk apparently. But the debate is, you know, is
there serious waste? Is there enough money that is going
to places potentially that maybe you shouldn't be going And
Senator excuse me, Secretary Rubio today made that argument and said,
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you know, we need to make sure every single dollar
that is going out through USAID goes to something that
actually benefits American interests in our foreign policy. And he said,
right now that isn't the case. That's a very different
thing what Secretary of Rubio is saying than what Elon
Musk is saying, which is shut it down.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
It's all corrupt. I think he said it was a tool.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Of leftist Marxists again on social media.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So you know where this ends up.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
We're not exactly sure, but that is generally what USAID
is is meant to do in theory is to you know,
it gives aid, it responds to natural disasters and poverty
and dysfunction in other countries, with the hope that we
get benefit from it in.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
The United States.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I heard your slip there.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm still writing Senator Marco Rubio on my checks. Also,
what's going on with the Treasury Department. There were reports
that the Department of Government Efficiency had to be given
or got access to a federal payment system that for
the most part, is very locked down. Is that a
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significant thing that people need to worry about?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
You know, it's I guess it's not for me to
say whether people should worry about it or not, but
it definitely is something that is new and maybe surprising
the Treasury Department. You know, if you get a paycheck
and you work for the federal government, treasury is basically
you know where the pool of money fits. Your paycheck
goes from that. So there is a lot of information
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in there that is public, but there's some of it
that is not. And apparently DOSEE officials have gotten the
names and salaries and figures and numbers of the Treasury
Department's base. So all people who are who are paid
and there was some serious pushback from Treasury officials against that,
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and apparently the same was sort of the case with
USA I D as well. We know that officials and
both have been we've heard from our sources, dismissed, largely
due to the influence.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Of Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So, you know, it does appear like if people are
putting up opposition to this government's demands, that they are
being dismissed. That doesn't mean that they again won't have
you know, won't have their day in court to try
to you know, address that. But yeah, those types of
things are happening, and two big examples today.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It seems like this is going to play out and
a lot of different departments as Elon Musk gets his
hands into things.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Joe Khalil, Washington correspondent for News Nation, Thanks for you time.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of course, happy to be with you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Absolutely good stuff. We at the bottom of the hour
are going to the next segment talk a little bit
more about UH, talk more about the the world of AI.
For a couple of reasons. They have one of them
chat GPT. I think it is is our open source
has unveiled a new research tool right it uses AI.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean isn't that Google? I mean, don't we get
the bullet points? Don't we get the concise thing when
we type into something in the search box on Google
that's driven by AI.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, we'll talk about that also, the potential for using
AI for very personal things like actually writing an obituary.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm going to have a I write you a birthday
card in the break, but okay, be a little.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Late, but right, okay, Gary, are we related?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I also have a grandma Esther and grandpa Ben and
they passed away a while ago.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh this is very odd. Sounds like someone not a
secret family.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
They from Organ?
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Did they live in Organ?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well? Pacific Charac Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Did no?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Anyways, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Look he was a very distinctive person, Abraham Lincoln. He
had distinct features. Yeah, didn't you had? Don't you have
roots in the Pacific Northwest? Or is that your wife?
Just your wife?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Just her? You don't have any Huh? They're all California
Central Valley folk. Well that's where they ended up. But yeah,
Grandma Astor's family was like Minnesota or Michigan or something
like that makes sense from way up there, Yeah, that
makes sense. And then Grandpa's.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Where does Ben hail from? Ben could be from Oregon,
I have to look, he's not. I know that he
could be from Bend. They've been in California for a
long time. Or you know what, Germany, that's where they
came from. In fact, I think Ago the Grandpa Christian
came from Germany somewhere at the beginning of the twentieth century. Ah,
that's why we don't know much about Ben.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I was also three when he died, right, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
There was never stories about Ben passed down. Remember Old
Ben used to eat fava beans out of the can. No,
no interesting, So few things we know about bans.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was thinking about a bean and that was the
first bean. And we'll do your Jeopardy question too, always
to make his own beer.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I know he did. See that's a fun fact I
was looking for about Ben. Okay, well, there you go.
We were talking earlier about the potential for you know,
danger when kids play outside.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Talk about playing on death trap playground sets. Okay, when
it was acceptable and fun. My best friend David Angulo
and I were playing and he forgot he was growing,
I guess because he didn't deck low enough to avoid
the steel half dome on a city bridge playground set.
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And as I remember, he got four to six stitches
on his forehead, which didn't prevent him from serving eight
years as an army ranger, then twelve years as an
army helicopter pile.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, maybe that's why he went into the militaries, because
he found out how tough he was. And by the way,
that would never happened today. Could you imagine the lawsuit
if your kid hit his forehead on the some city ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We will address the naked dress scene at the Grammys.
You know, it's not the first naked. There's been a
lot of ways to do naked. It's kind of like
the rule when it comes to it's a rule I
can't even bring up. You can't go full naked, all right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You can.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Allude intimate it, you can allude to it, you can
show a little bit here and there, but the full
naked it's frowned upon. It's like Britney Spears Instagram posts.
She wants to show you her vagina, but she doesn't.
She gets right up to the edge there and she
wants to jump off that cliff, but she stops short
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of it, just short of that cliff. Every single day
they jumped off the cliff. Last night, Kanye and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
She is pushed. You think so absolutely? You think she
had a bit of a how was that a prisoner vibe?
Very much?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
The whole blinking morse code saved me. Think people think
that's sexy. I think some women think that that whole
vulnerable save me, I need to be saved thing is
what men want by that lunatic by all of I mean, yes,
I think they think that's sexy. That look of like
help me.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
This is why I don't expose you to thinks this
little kid voices when they talk exactly, it's like tummy,
you know your Jeopardy question. Yeah, I'd love it. Key,
Let's watch some video games for two hundred dollars. Let's
watch some video games.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. The Super Mario Brothers movie with this Chris in
the title role had a high score at the box
office of one point three billion in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Chris, do you want to hint? Yes, I am Groot.
I think that's right. Oh, okay, did I do a
right hint?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, Groots movie? Yes, it was it was friends with
the Groot, right, he was he was friends with Boom.
A week ago, open ai has released a tool, had
released a tool that could go online to shop for groceries,
book a restaurant. Now they're offering something that will gather
information from across the Internet and synthesize it in concise reports. Yes,
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there's something I'm missing here because it seems like that
is a Google. But I will say this, I'm not
I'm not certain. I'm gonna have to ask my daughter
about this, because this is what she does. She does research.
And they're saying open Ai says that deep Research, which
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is the name of their tool, can do complex research
tasks that it might take you somewhere between thirty minutes
to thirty days, depending on how specific your research is.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But I think people who do research for a living
their delight and the point of their research is to
find out things that they were able to find out
the research that they were able to compile, to prove
a certain point or to get to a certain conclusion.
It's part of the side, it's part of the creativity
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of research.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Is you doing your own what leads you?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What research have you come up with or have you
stumbled across that leads you your own individual thought to
think about, well, what about X.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Y or Z, ask the next question.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Exactly so, and that's very individual. It's not everybody researches
the same way.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Says It sounds as if this is a good way
to summarize other people's research, and then like, I think
what you're saying is then develop your next question. What
is the next question that you would ask on whatever
line of research you're looking at, it's cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
If you are too young to know what cliff notes were.
When you were given a signed reading in school, sometimes
it was pretty dry, you know, Sarah Plaine and Tall
Nanook of the North. These were things involving things you
didn't care about when you were twelve, and all you
cared about was pop culture or the boy sitting next
to you. So you wanted a shortcut. So if you
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had parents that didn't care, they would help you acquire
these cliff notes, or you could check them out from
the library, which was just kind of a synopsis of
the book that would tell you the major plot points
and the different relationships and things like that. And I
can compare it to a television show for people this
day and age, if you're watching a show and you're
fully into it, you're just watching the show, you pick
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up a lot more than if you're watching the show
and scrolling through your phone.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You may not miss the dialogue, but you may miss
a look between the two characters, right, which adds connotation
and adds purpose to whatever relationship that is or what
have you. You miss a lot in missing the nuances.
And I think that that's what you miss when you
get the cliff notes of anything, or you don't do
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your research for everything, or you don't watch the movie,
or you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You know, well, that's actually that will lead into the
next segment we're going to talk about about using AI
for stuff, for more personal stuff like that. I want
to give you an example of how open Ai, the
company that put this together, this tool, how they showed
it off to members of Congress. They said they gathered
information about Albert Einstein, and he asked Deep Research to
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put together a detailed report about Einstein for a hypothetical
Senate staff member preparing for a congressional hearing where Einstein
would be the nominee for Secretary of Energy. And it
says that in addition to providing information about his background,
about his personality, it actually generated five questions that a
senator could ask Einstein to determine if he was going
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to be right for the job. So it sounds like
it does that other step of maybe it does ask Okay,
if you're asking it to research something about, let's just
keep it topical the effectiveness of vaccines, just because of
the whole RFK thing. If you ask about the effectiveness
of or a specific vaccine and all the studies that
have been done about a vaccine polio, for example, could
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you then prompt it to say, what's the next iteration
of this kind of research with today's technology, today's science,
et cetera that didn't exist fifty years ago when the
polio vaccine was relatively new. What should we do now?
What questions should we ask now to advance the science
when it comes to vaccine effectiveness or whatever? And it
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sounds like it will come up with those kinds of questions,
which is good, but it does take away the human
l of it, which I think is probably the thing
that needs we need to have we should have or
at least in conjunction with this, not one or the
other you're not gonna You're not gonna you're not gonna
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tell deep research research vaccine effectiveness and then do with
it what you will and kind of you know, come
up with your own studies. This is also one of
the things that I think people are not thinking about
when it comes to AI. They realize how easy it is,
how how quickly tasks can be done that would take
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you days or weeks. It could take AI very few
days or weeks. In fact, just a couple of minutes
in some cases. But that rate short sometimes shorts you.
I can't that. I can't expand on that. That's perfect.
It just came up with that. No, you did, Yeah,
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you just made quote. You just you just totally yeah.
Did you just look that up? No, I just CHATPT.
I just came up with it. Are you cold? Do
you want my scarf?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Ter hear?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
How much scar I'm a scarf. Look at how good
that looks on It's a manly scarf.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's not you just said scarf. It looks great.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Here.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I'm going to take a picture and then I'll post
it on our story at Gary and Shannon so that
everybody can see you in your scarf.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No, This is exactly. I have not touched the scarf
since you threw it upon my head. So do you
want to smile or no? No, you look like you're
a terrorist.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh I do, well, bat look at you. My eyes
were closed. Oh well, you're gonna check it out.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Elon Musk held a live session once last night. You
do look like you're in the televan said that he
spoke in detail with about us ai D with the
President of the United States us A i D. Sorry.
The Trump administration has already placed a couple of top
security chiefs at the Agency for International Development on leave
after they refuse to turn over classified material. This is
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one of those things. It's about a fifty billion dollar
budget that they're looking at. So salvage crews have also
removed a large portion of that American Airlines jet from
the Potomac River near Reaga National Airport after that collision
last week they killed sixty seven people. Authorities have said
that this operation to remove the plane from the river
is going to take several days, and then they'll work
to remove the Blackhawk helicopter that was also involved in
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the crash. The deadliest US air disaster since two thousand
and one we're talking about our artificial intelligence and uses thereof.
And last week we actually had the question of you
know how it is that you use AI in a
regular basis. A lot of people said that they use
it for simple tasks like responding to emails if they're busy,
or coming up with specific answers to questions while they're
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at work, and you could use it for a lot
of different things. I told you that I used it
to try to come up with a good radio script
for the holiday radio show that we do every year,
and it was awful. They just came back really bad.
But people have been saying that they are using AI
to come up with things like wedding speeches and even obituaries.
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The thing that makes me worry about all of this
is those are meant to be human moments. Those are
meant to be something that you have to sit down
and think about. And you could do the superfluous flowery
I don't know portions of a or a service, a
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funeral service or obituary or something like that, but then
you have to clarify it. You have to go back
and fine tune the thing. Even if chat GPT does
a bang up job they're going to get things wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean, you can take inspiration from other people or
other wedding speeches that you've heard things like that, obituaries.
But the thing what about wedding speeches and obituaries are
that those are very personal. Those are personal to whoever
you're doing it for. It's personal to your relationship to
those people as well. It's just it's I can see
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why it's getting a lot of pushback and fervor that
it's AI. But we've all taken advice from others. If
you have married a couple or you have done an obituary.
I know when I've done both of those things. I
have reached out to other people who also have relationships
with a couple getting married or the person that died,
and said, hey, what do you think what would you
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like included? Or what is one part of his life
or their life that think you think should be including.
You know, things like that, well, you ask for feedback
and input.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
There's one of the Associate professor's communications of Michigan State
I named David Markowitz said, obviously, generative AI platforms have
not lived emotion. They don't experience emotion. I mean it
can read the text of somebody describing a motion, but
the AI chatbot doesn't know what that is. And he
(28:04):
compared it to it's analogous to learning about a culture
without experiencing it. You learn about a past culture, whatever
a people, but unless you were there, you don't get
to actually experience. You're just learning some of the basic factors.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It goes back to Goodwill hunting and Robin Williams's character
talking to Matt Damon's character and he says, sure, you
can tell me all about the Sistine Chapel and who
painted it and the frescoes, but you can't tell me
what it smells like inside of it.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well, Katie Hoffman is a thirty four year old.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Market That was another nineteen nineties movie reference, as.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He nailed it, But she's used it a couple of times.
She used it to draft a text to a friend
to tell her that she wouldn't be going to the wedding.
There was another one she provided a diplomatic response to
a friend who had last minute backed out of her
bachelorette party and wanted her money back. Now, those types
of questions and potential emotional personal pitfalls that you go into,
(29:04):
you have to jump into that. Yeah, that's how you
learn as a human being to deal with that awkwardness.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's kind of like when I invited you to my
wedding and you did not RSVP nor really talk about
it at all. You just weren't there. And did I
ask AI to talk to you about it? No, because
that's that's stupid. Instead, I just hang it over your
head for thirteen years and bring it up at every
(29:36):
chance I get.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, like that, that's what I mean, dealing with those
very personal things. Yeah see, And don't you feel better
for it? You didn't rely on some robot to tell
me off.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We will talk trending when we come back to Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
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there was.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
A we'll get into the tariff thing here in just
a second. There was a story that I saw earlier
that lawyers for Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni were in
court today. For the love my wife was reading through
a bunch of that stuff over the weekend with I mean,
she had more fun reading that with like a box
of popcorn. Really, she said it was.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I look forward to her just giving me the cliff
notes because I am with you, like I'm with you
when you're oversaturated with Taylor Swift. I am oversaturated with
Blake Lively Justin Baldoni news.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Here's a I guess there's more protesters in downtown LA.
There's like sevens there's seven or eight people. There's a
Jeffrey Epstein angle to this, Oh, Blake Lively Justin Maldoni thing. Apparently,
Sigrid McAuley, best known for representing Jeffrey Epstein's victims, is
one of the lawyers that has gotten involved.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
With this that's a name that just to me shouts
from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Which one Jeffrey Epstein or Sigrid McCauley.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sigrid Sigfredigrid Sigrid McCauley screams like East Coast prep school?
Maybe people a dungeon, what robes? All sorts of nefarious things,
skull and skull and bones, society of things. Also, schools
are closed and emergency crews have been deployed on Santorini,
(01:40):
the Greek island of Santorini. There's a spike in seismic
activity and they are concerned about a potentially powerful earthquake there.
Precautions also ordered on several nearby islands in the GNC
all very popular summer vacation destinations. They said more than
two hundred undersea earthquakes have been recorded in the area
over just the last three days.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Sigrid mcaulay is a female. Interesting You didn't think Sigrid
sounded female? No like a female name. No, all right,
it's time for swamp water. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The other side never quits. So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So that now you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Drain the squaw, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have
always been going.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch
They're all counternoying the tariff thing. President Trump has said
that the terrorists would go into effect midnight, DC time,
one minute after midnight, and as of right now, the
twenty five percent tariff on goods from Mexico is on
(02:59):
pause because he and the president of Mexico have agreed
to some of the conditions, including Mexico sending about ten
thousand National Guard soldiers to the border to try to
prevent the crossing a fentanyl and people and things like that.
But this doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet.
In terms of what could be a trade war, Senator
Chuck Schumer had said, this is a bad idea.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
We're now in a trade war with Mexico and Canada.
Hi for the American people, it'll now be a war
between prices and their paychecks. That is the last thing
we need. So if you think that this is good,
if someone tries to convince you President Trump or anyone
(03:42):
else that this is good for the American family, I
have a bridge in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I can tell you. Was this a bluff all along?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Was there ever going to be Is there ever going
to be a shutdown on trade or the twenty five
percent tariffs on Mexico? Or was this all just for show?
And the two sides wanted to a peer that they
were stricter than they were and this was always going
(04:13):
to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I don't think it was a bluff because a
bluff would indicate that he never intended to that. Trump
never intended to put the terris in place. And I
think he fully intends to put them in place, because
this was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The reason I bring that up. This was a common
conversation among investors on Wall Street. Is he bluffing right?
Because it was going to be a big swing with
everyone's money, Whether it was a bluff or not.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I yeah, I don't think it's a bluff because but
it is a negotiating tactic, and this is what he does.
That's exactly this is his game plan. He's done this forever.
He's the guy who wrote or the deal. I mean
this is he knows what this is and he knows
what he's doing. Do I think it's a great idea?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I hate the idea that we've been struggling through inflation
and all this is going to do is add more
inflation if in fact they go into effect. But I mean,
we saw this earlier today in pre market trading. The Dow,
for example, was down like six hundred points. It has
rebounded significantly, especially since we got word that Mexico has
capitulated to a large degree. So the Dow right now
(05:18):
is only down fourteen points. It's almost break even and
could potentially in the next couple of hours still do
a nice positive run to end the day in positive territory. Now,
around the world, things were not so good. All of
the European indexes were down about a point. The Asian
indexes were down almost three points, so or three percentage points,
(05:42):
I should say. So this does have worldwide repercussions. But again,
this is what he was planning the whole time. He
wanted to force Mexico to the table and they came.
Now he's going to try to force Canada to the
table and we shall see what happens. The story out
of DC is that he has a phone call at
(06:03):
least with with Justin Trudeau coming up at about noon today,
so maybe they agree. Maybe Justin TRUDEU sticks by his
Disney pants and says, we're going to take this to
the We're going to take it to the court, or
we're going to take it to the field. We're going
to do trying to think of a sports analogy, it
ain't working.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Coming up next, we will go to the AI desk Open.
AI last week released a tool that can shop for
your groceries, book a restaurant for you. Now they can
gather information from across the Internet and boil it down
into concise reports. Cliff notes AI you no longer have
to deploy your team of girlfriends to find out about.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That first date. Elon Musk says us aid is a
ball of worms. It's not an apple with worms in it.
It's just a ball of worms like Medusa's hair. That's
the whole thing. So this Agency for International Development is
being gutted. It is one of the major things that
Elon Musk has been doing while exerting his control of
(07:00):
the Department of Government Efficiency, joining us talk more about this,
Joe Khalil from DC and Joe, let's discuss what kind
of things Elon Musk can do as the appointed head
of this brand new government agency.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
So you hit the exact point of contention, because we
have no idea legally what he can or cannot do.
Democrats today jumped out on this story there in front
of the USAID building, saying it is illegal for Elon
Musk or for anyone up to an including President Trump,
to just unilaterally shut down of federal government agency like USAID,
(07:42):
which has thirty billion dollar budget every single year. But
Elon Musk very clearly wants to shut it down. He's
not mincing words he talked about with the ball of worms.
I think he tweeted something like thirty six times over
the last two or three days about USAID. At one
point he said it needs to die. So he's making
crystal clear where he stands on that. What is actually
(08:05):
happening right now is the Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
just in the last two hours said that his department,
the State Department, is actually taking over USAID. It's no
longer going to be an independent agency. But the Secretary
of State says he's going to have the last word
(08:25):
on where money goes. There's a lot of debate about,
you know, whether USAID is spending too much money, does
it spend money in places where we shouldn't be Democrats
today say it's vital to our national security.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
To have USAID in place.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So there's a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
We can imagine this manned up in the courts.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What is USAID for people who are just learning about it?
Is this something tied to for extance, for example, our
assistance to Ukraine the battle putin?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What is the budget of USAID?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, so it's the largest agency we have in the
US government that gives money to more than one hundred
countries all over the world. And the idea in concept
and theory is that let's say there's a small democracy
somewhere near China and they're going through government, you know, disarray,
(09:22):
there's poverty there. US age dollars might then flow to
that country, with the thought being that if that country
is actually more stable than it is, you know, in
poverty and in disarray, that makes the region more stable,
and you know, if there is potentially a conflict with
China or Russia or someone else, that that would be
(09:42):
an asset where the United States might get some benefit
rather than it may be falling into the hands an
influence of China and Russia and then working.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Against the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And that concept is actually agreed upon by everybody, accept
Elon Musk apparently. But the debate is, you know, is
there serious waste? Is there enough money that is going
to places potentially that maybe you shouldn't be going And
Senator excuse me, Secretary Rubio today made that argument and said,
(10:12):
you know, we need to make sure every single dollar
that is going out through USAID goes to something that
actually benefits American interests in our foreign policy. And he said,
right now that isn't the case. That's a very different
thing what Secretary of Rubio is saying than what Elon
Musk is saying, which is shut it down.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
It's all corrupt. I think he said it was a tool.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Of leftist Marxists again on social media.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So you know where this ends up.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
We're not exactly sure, but that is generally what USAID
is is meant to do in theory is to you know,
it gives aid, it responds to natural disasters and poverty
and dysfunction in other countries, with the hope that we
get benefit from it in.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
The United States.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I heard your slip there.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm still writing Senator Marco Rubio on my checks. Also,
what's going on with the Treasury Department. There were reports
that the Department of Government Efficiency had to be given
or got access to a federal payment system that for
the most part, is very locked down. Is that a
(11:17):
significant thing that people need to worry about?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
You know, it's I guess it's not for me to
say whether people should worry about it or not, but
it definitely is something that is new and maybe surprising
the Treasury Department. You know, if you get a paycheck
and you work for the federal government, treasury is basically
you know where the pool of money fits. Your paycheck
goes from that. So there is a lot of information
(11:42):
in there that is public, but there's some of it
that is not. And apparently DOSEE officials have gotten the
names and salaries and figures and numbers of the Treasury
Department's base. So all people who are who are paid
and there was some serious pushback from Treasury officials against that,
(12:04):
and apparently the same was sort of the case with
USA I D as well. We know that officials and
both have been we've heard from our sources, dismissed, largely
due to the influence.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Of Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So, you know, it does appear like if people are
putting up opposition to this government's demands, that they are
being dismissed. That doesn't mean that they again won't have
you know, won't have their day in court to try
to you know, address that. But yeah, those types of
things are happening, and two big examples today.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It seems like this is going to play out and
a lot of different departments as Elon Musk gets his
hands into things.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Joe Khalil, Washington correspondent for News Nation, Thanks for you time.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of course, happy to be with you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Absolutely good stuff. We at the bottom of the hour
are going to the next segment talk a little bit
more about UH, talk more about the the world of AI.
For a couple of reasons. They have one of them
chat GPT. I think it is is our open source
has unveiled a new research tool right it uses AI.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean isn't that Google? I mean, don't we get
the bullet points? Don't we get the concise thing when
we type into something in the search box on Google
that's driven by AI.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, we'll talk about that also, the potential for using
AI for very personal things like actually writing an obituary.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm going to have a I write you a birthday
card in the break, but okay, be a little.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Late, but right, okay, Gary, are we related?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I also have a grandma Esther and grandpa Ben and
they passed away a while ago.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh this is very odd. Sounds like someone not a
secret family.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
They from Organ?
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Did they live in Organ?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well? Pacific Charac Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Did no?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Anyways, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Look he was a very distinctive person, Abraham Lincoln. He
had distinct features. Yeah, didn't you had? Don't you have
roots in the Pacific Northwest? Or is that your wife?
Just your wife?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Just her? You don't have any Huh? They're all California
Central Valley folk. Well that's where they ended up. But yeah,
Grandma Astor's family was like Minnesota or Michigan or something
like that makes sense from way up there, Yeah, that
makes sense. And then Grandpa's.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Where does Ben hail from? Ben could be from Oregon,
I have to look, he's not. I know that he
could be from Bend. They've been in California for a
long time. Or you know what, Germany, that's where they
came from. In fact, I think Ago the Grandpa Christian
came from Germany somewhere at the beginning of the twentieth century. Ah,
that's why we don't know much about Ben.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I was also three when he died, right, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
There was never stories about Ben passed down. Remember Old
Ben used to eat fava beans out of the can. No,
no interesting, So few things we know about bans.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was thinking about a bean and that was the
first bean. And we'll do your Jeopardy question too, always
to make his own beer.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I know he did. See that's a fun fact I
was looking for about Ben. Okay, well, there you go.
We were talking earlier about the potential for you know,
danger when kids play outside.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Talk about playing on death trap playground sets. Okay, when
it was acceptable and fun. My best friend David Angulo
and I were playing and he forgot he was growing,
I guess because he didn't deck low enough to avoid
the steel half dome on a city bridge playground set.
(15:46):
And as I remember, he got four to six stitches
on his forehead, which didn't prevent him from serving eight
years as an army ranger, then twelve years as an
army helicopter pile.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, maybe that's why he went into the militaries, because
he found out how tough he was. And by the way,
that would never happened today. Could you imagine the lawsuit
if your kid hit his forehead on the some city ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We will address the naked dress scene at the Grammys.
You know, it's not the first naked. There's been a
lot of ways to do naked. It's kind of like
the rule when it comes to it's a rule I
can't even bring up. You can't go full naked, all right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You can.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Allude intimate it, you can allude to it, you can
show a little bit here and there, but the full
naked it's frowned upon. It's like Britney Spears Instagram posts.
She wants to show you her vagina, but she doesn't.
She gets right up to the edge there and she
wants to jump off that cliff, but she stops short
(16:48):
of it, just short of that cliff. Every single day
they jumped off the cliff. Last night, Kanye and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
She is pushed. You think so absolutely? You think she
had a bit of a how was that a prisoner vibe?
Very much?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
The whole blinking morse code saved me. Think people think
that's sexy. I think some women think that that whole
vulnerable save me, I need to be saved thing is
what men want by that lunatic by all of I mean, yes,
I think they think that's sexy. That look of like
help me.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
This is why I don't expose you to thinks this
little kid voices when they talk exactly, it's like tummy,
you know your Jeopardy question. Yeah, I'd love it. Key,
Let's watch some video games for two hundred dollars. Let's
watch some video games.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. The Super Mario Brothers movie with this Chris in
the title role had a high score at the box
office of one point three billion in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Chris, do you want to hint? Yes, I am Groot.
I think that's right. Oh, okay, did I do a
right hint?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, Groots movie? Yes, it was it was friends with
the Groot, right, he was he was friends with Boom.
A week ago, open ai has released a tool, had
released a tool that could go online to shop for groceries,
book a restaurant. Now they're offering something that will gather
information from across the Internet and synthesize it in concise reports. Yes,
(18:36):
there's something I'm missing here because it seems like that
is a Google. But I will say this, I'm not
I'm not certain. I'm gonna have to ask my daughter
about this, because this is what she does. She does research.
And they're saying open Ai says that deep Research, which
(18:57):
is the name of their tool, can do complex research
tasks that it might take you somewhere between thirty minutes
to thirty days, depending on how specific your research is.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But I think people who do research for a living
their delight and the point of their research is to
find out things that they were able to find out
the research that they were able to compile, to prove
a certain point or to get to a certain conclusion.
It's part of the side, it's part of the creativity
(19:32):
of research.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Is you doing your own what leads you?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What research have you come up with or have you
stumbled across that leads you your own individual thought to
think about, well, what about X.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Y or Z, ask the next question.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Exactly so, and that's very individual. It's not everybody researches
the same way.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Says It sounds as if this is a good way
to summarize other people's research, and then like, I think
what you're saying is then develop your next question. What
is the next question that you would ask on whatever
line of research you're looking at, it's cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
If you are too young to know what cliff notes were.
When you were given a signed reading in school, sometimes
it was pretty dry, you know, Sarah Plaine and Tall
Nanook of the North. These were things involving things you
didn't care about when you were twelve, and all you
cared about was pop culture or the boy sitting next
to you. So you wanted a shortcut. So if you
(20:30):
had parents that didn't care, they would help you acquire
these cliff notes, or you could check them out from
the library, which was just kind of a synopsis of
the book that would tell you the major plot points
and the different relationships and things like that. And I
can compare it to a television show for people this
day and age, if you're watching a show and you're
fully into it, you're just watching the show, you pick
(20:52):
up a lot more than if you're watching the show
and scrolling through your phone.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You may not miss the dialogue, but you may miss
a look between the two characters, right, which adds connotation
and adds purpose to whatever relationship that is or what
have you. You miss a lot in missing the nuances.
And I think that that's what you miss when you
get the cliff notes of anything, or you don't do
(21:17):
your research for everything, or you don't watch the movie,
or you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You know, well, that's actually that will lead into the
next segment we're going to talk about about using AI
for stuff, for more personal stuff like that. I want
to give you an example of how open Ai, the
company that put this together, this tool, how they showed
it off to members of Congress. They said they gathered
information about Albert Einstein, and he asked Deep Research to
(21:45):
put together a detailed report about Einstein for a hypothetical
Senate staff member preparing for a congressional hearing where Einstein
would be the nominee for Secretary of Energy. And it
says that in addition to providing information about his background,
about his personality, it actually generated five questions that a
senator could ask Einstein to determine if he was going
(22:06):
to be right for the job. So it sounds like
it does that other step of maybe it does ask Okay,
if you're asking it to research something about, let's just
keep it topical the effectiveness of vaccines, just because of
the whole RFK thing. If you ask about the effectiveness
of or a specific vaccine and all the studies that
have been done about a vaccine polio, for example, could
(22:31):
you then prompt it to say, what's the next iteration
of this kind of research with today's technology, today's science,
et cetera that didn't exist fifty years ago when the
polio vaccine was relatively new. What should we do now?
What questions should we ask now to advance the science
when it comes to vaccine effectiveness or whatever? And it
(22:53):
sounds like it will come up with those kinds of questions,
which is good, but it does take away the human
l of it, which I think is probably the thing
that needs we need to have we should have or
at least in conjunction with this, not one or the
other you're not gonna You're not gonna you're not gonna
(23:14):
tell deep research research vaccine effectiveness and then do with
it what you will and kind of you know, come
up with your own studies. This is also one of
the things that I think people are not thinking about
when it comes to AI. They realize how easy it is,
how how quickly tasks can be done that would take
(23:37):
you days or weeks. It could take AI very few
days or weeks. In fact, just a couple of minutes
in some cases. But that rate short sometimes shorts you.
I can't that. I can't expand on that. That's perfect.
It just came up with that. No, you did, Yeah,
(23:59):
you just made quote. You just you just totally yeah.
Did you just look that up? No, I just CHATPT.
I just came up with it. Are you cold? Do
you want my scarf?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Ter hear?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
How much scar I'm a scarf. Look at how good
that looks on It's a manly scarf.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's not you just said scarf. It looks great.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Here.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I'm going to take a picture and then I'll post
it on our story at Gary and Shannon so that
everybody can see you in your scarf.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No, This is exactly. I have not touched the scarf
since you threw it upon my head. So do you
want to smile or no? No, you look like you're
a terrorist.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh I do, well, bat look at you. My eyes
were closed. Oh well, you're gonna check it out.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Elon Musk held a live session once last night. You
do look like you're in the televan said that he
spoke in detail with about us ai D with the
President of the United States us A i D. Sorry.
The Trump administration has already placed a couple of top
security chiefs at the Agency for International Development on leave
after they refuse to turn over classified material. This is
(25:07):
one of those things. It's about a fifty billion dollar
budget that they're looking at. So salvage crews have also
removed a large portion of that American Airlines jet from
the Potomac River near Reaga National Airport after that collision
last week they killed sixty seven people. Authorities have said
that this operation to remove the plane from the river
is going to take several days, and then they'll work
to remove the Blackhawk helicopter that was also involved in
(25:30):
the crash. The deadliest US air disaster since two thousand
and one we're talking about our artificial intelligence and uses thereof.
And last week we actually had the question of you
know how it is that you use AI in a
regular basis. A lot of people said that they use
it for simple tasks like responding to emails if they're busy,
or coming up with specific answers to questions while they're
(25:54):
at work, and you could use it for a lot
of different things. I told you that I used it
to try to come up with a good radio script
for the holiday radio show that we do every year,
and it was awful. They just came back really bad.
But people have been saying that they are using AI
to come up with things like wedding speeches and even obituaries.
(26:17):
The thing that makes me worry about all of this
is those are meant to be human moments. Those are
meant to be something that you have to sit down
and think about. And you could do the superfluous flowery
I don't know portions of a or a service, a
(26:41):
funeral service or obituary or something like that, but then
you have to clarify it. You have to go back
and fine tune the thing. Even if chat GPT does
a bang up job they're going to get things wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean, you can take inspiration from other people or
other wedding speeches that you've heard things like that, obituaries.
But the thing what about wedding speeches and obituaries are
that those are very personal. Those are personal to whoever
you're doing it for. It's personal to your relationship to
those people as well. It's just it's I can see
(27:12):
why it's getting a lot of pushback and fervor that
it's AI. But we've all taken advice from others. If
you have married a couple or you have done an obituary.
I know when I've done both of those things. I
have reached out to other people who also have relationships
with a couple getting married or the person that died,
and said, hey, what do you think what would you
(27:34):
like included? Or what is one part of his life
or their life that think you think should be including.
You know, things like that, well, you ask for feedback
and input.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
There's one of the Associate professor's communications of Michigan State
I named David Markowitz said, obviously, generative AI platforms have
not lived emotion. They don't experience emotion. I mean it
can read the text of somebody describing a motion, but
the AI chatbot doesn't know what that is. And he
(28:04):
compared it to it's analogous to learning about a culture
without experiencing it. You learn about a past culture, whatever
a people, but unless you were there, you don't get
to actually experience. You're just learning some of the basic factors.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It goes back to Goodwill hunting and Robin Williams's character
talking to Matt Damon's character and he says, sure, you
can tell me all about the Sistine Chapel and who
painted it and the frescoes, but you can't tell me
what it smells like inside of it.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well, Katie Hoffman is a thirty four year old.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Market That was another nineteen nineties movie reference, as.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He nailed it, But she's used it a couple of times.
She used it to draft a text to a friend
to tell her that she wouldn't be going to the wedding.
There was another one she provided a diplomatic response to
a friend who had last minute backed out of her
bachelorette party and wanted her money back. Now, those types
of questions and potential emotional personal pitfalls that you go into,
(29:04):
you have to jump into that. Yeah, that's how you
learn as a human being to deal with that awkwardness.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's kind of like when I invited you to my
wedding and you did not RSVP nor really talk about
it at all. You just weren't there. And did I
ask AI to talk to you about it? No, because
that's that's stupid. Instead, I just hang it over your
head for thirteen years and bring it up at every
(29:36):
chance I get.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, like that, that's what I mean, dealing with those
very personal things. Yeah see, And don't you feel better
for it? You didn't rely on some robot to tell
me off.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We will talk trending when we come back to Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
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