November 17, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary & Shannon break down LAX’s $1.5 billion plan to “reduce” traffic — and question whether it can actually get done before the Olympics.
Then they dive into the indictment of Newsom’s former chief of staff and the surprising tie to Activision Blizzard, Shannon shares a big moment of perspective from her Chargers weekend, and the O.J. Simpson estate re-enters the headlines in a major way.
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Big weekend storm, of course, rolled through LA brought some
record rainfalls to some areas.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Not over yet necessarily.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
In fact, we do expect to see more rain coming
through later tonight, another storm potentially tomorrow. Yesterday a home
blew up in Chino Hills. Eight people hurt, forced some
temporary evacuations. They said that they have been on site
trying to cap what appeared to be a natural ghastly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The word catchup originated from a fermented fish sauce from China.
Early versions in England in the eighteenth century, made with
Anchoby's mushroom spices. It was eighteen twelve, though, when James
Mises published the first known recipe for tomato catchup.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And what did he call tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Redfruits? He called them love apples. Oh, God, sounds awful.
Why does that make that sound up? And then it
was Henry Hines, the genius who added what and it
just took.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Off vinegar sugar.
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Oh that makes sense and vinegar more vinegar, but sugar.
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Yeah, we love our sugar.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Last week we told you about Dana Williamson, this former
chief of staff for Governor Newsom who has been brought
up on federal corruption charges for fraud, misusing campaign funds,
et cetera. Two of the people in the federal indictment
had ties to Activision Blizzard. Activision Blizzard is the publisher
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of our creator, I guess, of a bunch of video games,
including the Call of Duty.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Series of games.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And this gets into some very dirty dealings that Dana
Williamson is supposedly accused of, among other things, These people
who work in Sacramento, probably in every state capital around
the country, and in Washington, d c. Obviously have these
huge amounts of power that they have developed over the
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course of years by horse trading, by getting things for
one client, promising things to another, using them against each other,
pitting politicians against lobbyists, lobbyists against politicians, And it appears
that Dana Williamson was one of those people and very
successful at it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Now this was.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
This was interesting because Activision itself was being sued by
the state of California Department of Fair Employment. Housing sued
Activision four years ago, alleging that company officials discriminated against women,
paid them less than men, and ignored reports of egregious
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sexual harassment. It turns out that a member of Activision's
board of directors gave a forty thousand dollars check to
Gavin Newsom's campaign eight years ago, and an additional one
hundred thousand dollars to a committee that opposed his recall campaign.
(03:30):
All of that recall campaign, of course failed, but Newsom's
office says, oh, there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's just normal.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's what happens, even though there is massive state litigation
pending against the company. The idea that those company higher
ups would be gifting tens of and in case, one
hundred thousand dollars to campaigns that directly benefit Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The complaint against Active Vision Blizzard from twenty twenty one,
again the distributor of Call of Duty candy Crush, alleges
at the company discriminated against women. Ah, GAVINU someone stand
for that. He won't take that kind of dirty money.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He is a woman, a supporter, and.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
He's a You're going to a powerful ally ally women.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
The complaint alleges that this company Act division Blizzard, fostered
a pervasive frat boy workplace culture that continues to thrive
in the office.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Women are subjected.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Can I have some some music for this? I feel
like something called a cube crawl needs like some music,
you know, like, no, something more festive, something seedier.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, body, body, body, body, boody.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Women are subjects to.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Cube crawls, in which male employees drink copious amounts of alcohol.
Is they crawl their way through various cubicles in the
office and engage in inappropriate behavior toward female employees.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Let's just pull the car over real quick.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Let's put all of us in cubicles here at KFI,
and let's put all the men in one of the
conference rooms getting wasted.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like you're drinking that old bottle of jack we have
in the fridge.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well that was many years ago, but no, we still
have it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
No, No, I mean, but I don't think anybody's opened
that probably right, But let's say it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It opened up to me and you guys got all
we all.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Got straws in the deep end, and then.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You decided it would be fun to walk around work
to the various cubicles and be like hey, Amy King
and Amy King's and her cubicle and you're like grabbing
her ass and her legs and stuff, all drunk on
jack in the middle of the day. And then you
go into Anne's cubicle You're like hey, and Hong Kong,
and then you go to Michelle. I mean, could you imagine,
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like this is the year of our Lord twenty twenty five,
Like this isn't happening.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
This happens.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Apparently it happens.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, give me a break cube crawls. I've never
heard of such a thing, does it? Are they actually
on hands and knees crawling looking up skirts? Are women
wearing skirts these days? I just I have a hard
time believing that this happens.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, there's more to this, because.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It says that male employees proudly come into work hung
over and that they play video games for long periods
of time that I believe you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Do work at Activision. It's kind of in your job.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, you're Tom Hanks in Big right. We'll good in
tomorrow they come back.
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Overseas, there was a there was an unprecedented act of sabotage.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
According to the Prime Minister of Poland.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
There was an explosion on a rail line near the
Ukrainian border, and Prime Minister Donald Tusk had called it
a part of a string of suspected attacks targeting European infrastructure.
Passenger train that was traveling between Warsaw and the eastern
Polish city of Lublin forced to make an emergency stop
early yesterday. Damage was spotted on the tracks. This route
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also happens to be a crucial part of the network
for delivering aid to Ukraine, so the assumption, at least
by some Polish officials is that this was the work
of Russian agents.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
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Speaker 2 (09:21):
Also a great hang.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We've been telling you about Dana Williamson. This is the
former Gavin Newsom chief of staff who was popped for
federal corruption charges and mentioned that this lawsuit against Activision
Blizzard the makers of call of duty filed by the
state against them, and as the case was winding through
La County Superior Court, Activision started dumping money into lobbying
(09:47):
in Sacramento and guests who was lobbying on their behalf
someone named Dana Williamson, etc. Among others, and one of
the other co conspirators that was indicted in this in
the charges that were filed this last week. At about
that time, Gavin Newsom announced that he hired Dana Williamson
(10:08):
to be his chief of staff. So not only do
you have lobbyist Greg Campbell, longtime associate of Dana Williamson,
lobbying on behalf of Activision, the good friend Dana Williamson
is now in the governor's office. In December of twenty three,
the state announced it had reached a settlement agreement with Activision.
(10:28):
They got this thing turned away or put to bed,
shall we say, for fifty four million dollar price tag,
and the bulk of that money went to compensate women
who had been underpaid, and the company didn't admit.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Any of the wrongdoing in any of all of this.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So, I mean, if you wanted to spend some time
digging around in all of the the dirty lobby details
that go on in Sacramento, that would be a show
every day, and it would be a show every day
on every station in the country if you did it
in every city.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's just part of doing business.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's the cost of doing business and politics in this land,
and it's has been since the inception of time. People
are going to get dirty, they're going to take dirty
money from dirty people, and there's going to be layers
of plausible deniability that distance a Gavin Newsom from a
company where people are going in and grabbing people's asses
during drunken cube crawls.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And that's just the way things are.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
There's very little clean money that exists for political gain,
very very little, if any.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Lobbying.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I met a lobbyist one time when I was flying
where was I fly?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh, flying two Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If I recall to go to the Savannah Bananas game,
that was an unimportant piece of information. But I met
a lobbyist, a guy who fully admitted, full suit and everything,
flying from here in a burbank up to up to Sacramento,
and I had asked.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
About what he did.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We were talking about work, and he explained how much
money you can make. He's like, he said, if he
wanted to go dirty as a lobbyist, he'd be a
millionaire in two months. Yeah, But he was talking about
why he doesn't do that, you know, the reputation that
he's built up over a couple decades. He's like, I'd
(12:24):
throw it all away if I took any amount of
dirty money, but I would be an rich Bot Beyond
my wildest dreams.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Dirty money that you know about? Yeah, exactly, all right,
coming up next. It looks like LAX is going to
improve traffic. We'll tell you what the plan is. Some
people are saying that, some people are laughing, But we'll
tell you what the plan is when we return.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Chargers austin Jacksonville. Yesterday thirty five to six. Rams did
beat the Seahawks at SOFI twenty one nineteen. The Cowboys
Raiders tonight in Vegas for Monday Night football. New York
Jets cornerback Chris Boyd shot and critically wounded very early
yesterday morning. They said he's in critical but stable condition
at Bellevue Hospital there in New York. Shooting took place
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just after two am on Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Maybe, as Jim Harbaugh says, nobody solves cancer after midnight.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
They do even less after two am.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We stayed in Jacksonville at the Hilton on the campus
of the Mayo Clinic.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And how about a dose of perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
When at least a couple of conversations I had with
people in the hotel. Guys there their wives. A couple
guys in their seventies with the wives. One wife had
a brain tumor and was having issues with you know,
just normal. They got the brain tumor out, but now
she's having problems with mobility and just walking around. They
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love to golf together, and suddenly she's stuck in a
sand trap and can't get out, and she can't figure
out why. She can't get why things aren't working. Another
guy had a wife with cancer that they thought they'd
beat and it had come back, and they're at Mayo
clinic and she doesn't want to leave the room because
their dogs. I mean, it's just like wow, like the
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amount of perspective staying there for a football game, and
it was it was incredible, It was it was nice
to I mean, it's awful, but it gives you a
lot of gratitude, shall we say, to get that kind
of viewpoint when you're just there for something so trivial
that yes, it means a lot in the grand scheme
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of things, if you're an NFL fan or what have you,
but it means nothing in the grand scheme of life.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
La world airport's.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Board of Airport Commissioners has approved a one billion dollar
phase of spending for new roadway improvement plans. By the way,
it's not a hard deadline, but it's a hard deadline.
They have until the Olympics of twenty eight to get
this stuff done.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But in the grand scheme of things with transportation, that's
not that much time.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Is it. No, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Critics have argued this plan is leaving the airport's most
infamous bottleneck, which is the airport itself largely untouched, and
that's the horseshoe design. Listen, in the fifties, the horseshoe
design may have been perfect, it may have been glorious,
but our population has what quadrupled since then, and air
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traffic in and out of lax has arisen exponentially as well.
The plan is a streamline traffic flow at airport entrances
and exits to try to reduce the jams on public
roads like Supulvida and Century. And it's set to be complete.
This is the best part. They have timed it out
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so perfectly. They say it's going to be done two
months before the Olympics is over. That seems a little tight,
doesn't it a little considering considering the number of construction
projects around Lax that have gone over schedule. They said,
it's going to make the airport easier. Sorry, they're gonna
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make it's gonna make the airport safer and separate, separ
rate airport travelers from everyone else on the road more efficiently.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Problem is, you're that again.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's not necessarily that it was put in the wrong
place when it was originally constructed Lax.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It's that everything.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Grew up around it and four oh five expanded, and
now people use Century and Supulveda as ways to avoid
the four oh five. So it's just one of those
It's one of those things that happens as a result
of progress. The project designers have promised to smooth out
travel on the elevated segments to and from the U
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shaped roadway. They said, the traffic in the loop itself, though,
will roughly remain the same, which is arguably Dante's fifth
Ring of Hell.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know, as we move away from cars more and
more that I will say this about Lax. Their pick
up lot for Uber and Lyft works pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It was a disaster when it first started, but it's
gotten pretty streamline and it works pretty well if you
can walk.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
If you can't walk, yeah, that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
There are there are some airports I've flown into that
have great access to uber lots, to the rideshare lots,
and they do it really well, partly because they have
you know, they tend to be the smaller places. Yeah,
I mean, Burbank is a small enough place, and it's not.
It's probably the best version of what I've seen, but
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it's because it's a small to medium airport and they
can get away with putting an uberlot right there in
front of everybody. It just doesn't It's not the same
if you're flying into Phoenix or flying into Denver or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Would you like your jeopardy question?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh boy, my wife got to ask me my jeopardy
question last time.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh did you get it? No, you didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think I did.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Rulers you don't measure with for two hundred dollars, the
body of hat Shepsuit, one of the few female rulers
of ancient Egypt, is pervers preserved. Excuse me in this
capital city, Cairo.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes, don't ask what a question? Mark you know the
I happen.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To ask with a question mark. No, yes, I do
have to ask.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I know, but you could say, what is Cairo? You
can say demonstratively like I know the answer to this.
I'm Gary F.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And Hoffman R.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
My initials are all right?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That checks out.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Coming up next we will be looking into OJ's estate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
How much fun is that? Let's move on.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The OJ Simpson estate has taken a key step toward
finally paying Fred Goldman nearly fifty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know the story. We all know the story.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Fred Goldman won that wrongful death judgment in the civil
case against OJ Simpson after he was acquitted for killing
Nicole and Fred Goldman's son.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, this was the ninety seven civil court case since Ron.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
By the way, Fred Goldman's name has become more famous
than Ron Goldman, honestly because Fred Goldman has fought for
his son for so probably true? Well, how old was
Ron when he died twenty seven? I don't know, I'm
making that up. Let me look it up.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's probably.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, it's been longer since the murder than he
was twenty five, than he was alongst twenty five, So
Simpson was found liable back in ninety seven. The payment
at the time was ordered at thirty three and a
half million dollars. Obviously, most of that went unpaid while
OJ was alive.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He died just last year.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The Malcolm Laverne is the executive of the OJ Simpson
estate and said the nearly fifty eight million dollars actually
fifty seven million, nine hundred ninety seven, eight hundred and
fifty eight dollars and twelve cents was negotiated with Fred Goldman.
He said the estate plans to pay what it can
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by auctioning off OJ's sessions, some of which have been stolen.
We know that's, of course, but that they are working
with attorneys to recover the items. Also said he was
going to ask again this is the attorney for the executor,
I should say of the estate. Said he was going
to ask the corps to approve an administrative fee for
Ron Goldman, who has assisted in managing estate affairs. Most
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of the others rejected creditor claims, accepting only those from
Fred Goldman and from the irs. That includes paying off
a separate six hundred and thirty six thousand dollars claim
from the State of California, which would have had to
take legal action if the state wants to collect. But
this is the biggest shift and a massive, massive shift
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over the course of the thirty years, because, among other things,
the executor vowed that he was never going to pay
the Goldman family said that right after OJ died, I
am never paying the Goldmans.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
They are never getting any money.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Obviously, Fred has maintained that going after OJ and civil
court was the only.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Way that he could get justice for his son Ron.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Eighty four years old.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Fred Goldman is now, Wow, that's just such a weird
in terms of defining one of those ongoing stories that
has defined current events in the time period that you're alive.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
That's one for me because.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's taken up our whole lives.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, you figure ninety four that the Bronco chase, I mean,
I can clearly remember where I was and what I
was doing that afternoon. Yeah, and then the guilty verdict
was marked a time. The Bronco Chase was right after
I graduated from college. The guilty verdict was maybe two
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day three days before I met my now wife. And
then as this goes on, having met people like Kim
Goldman at points, and then you know, having seen these
this story bubble up every couple of years, and then
OJ getting in trouble once again when he was in Vegas,
and just this it's one of those weird and negative
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threads that just continues to pop up through your life.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
When the chase went on, I was still in Catholic
school And now look at me.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Do you think that's what prompted you to get out
of the Catholic school? The OJ chase. Now you're seeing
a life you're like that, you know, life of crime.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Maybe well, I mean now you're saying that he did it,
so oh you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Gosh, I'm afraid that he might come after me.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, that's the Bible, right, Yeah, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That, by the way, is a good watch if you've
never seen or you're young and you don't know the
whole saga that OJ series that they did, was.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That Ryan Murphy the most American crime story.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that is an out standing job on the whole
saga and what it means and how he got off.
There was a lot going on in Los Angeles in
the country with racial relations and everything. There was so
much going on that did not happen in a vacuum.
His superstardom, his ego, what was going on with the LAPD.
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There's so much that went into the firestorm that has
been this story for decades. But it's really well done.
If you if you've only come in and out of
the OJ story or you never really lived through it.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
And if I remember, ESPN also did a great doctor.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
ESPN did a great job as well. Then they both
came out kind of around the same time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Again, a huge thank you to everybody who came out
to lucid Or Brewing Company in Chino Hills on Friday.
We had a great time with Cardboard Shannon that was
out there and the brewfest that went off, Yes it
was it was, but they still raise the money for
the Chino Valley Fire Foundation. Our next appearance, we're going
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to be with everybody, of course, at Pastathon, which comes
up the week after Thanksgiving. It'll be Tuesday, December second,
broadcasting all of the shows live from five in the morning,
Amy King and Wakeup Call all the way through eight
o'clock that night at the Anaheim White House Restaurant.
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feel good about the holiday season. You've been involved before,
We've been involved before. It really is my favorite thing
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Big weekend storm, of course, rolled through LA brought some
record rainfalls to some areas.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Not over yet necessarily.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
In fact, we do expect to see more rain coming
through later tonight, another storm potentially tomorrow. Yesterday a home
blew up in Chino Hills. Eight people hurt, forced some
temporary evacuations. They said that they have been on site
trying to cap what appeared to be a natural ghastly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The word catchup originated from a fermented fish sauce from China.
Early versions in England in the eighteenth century, made with
Anchoby's mushroom spices. It was eighteen twelve, though, when James
Mises published the first known recipe for tomato catchup.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And what did he call tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Redfruits? He called them love apples. Oh, God, sounds awful.
Why does that make that sound up? And then it
was Henry Hines, the genius who added what and it
just took.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Off vinegar sugar.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh that makes sense and vinegar more vinegar, but sugar.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, we love our sugar.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Last week we told you about Dana Williamson, this former
chief of staff for Governor Newsom who has been brought
up on federal corruption charges for fraud, misusing campaign funds,
et cetera. Two of the people in the federal indictment
had ties to Activision Blizzard. Activision Blizzard is the publisher
(01:55):
of our creator, I guess, of a bunch of video games,
including the Call of Duty.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Series of games.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And this gets into some very dirty dealings that Dana
Williamson is supposedly accused of, among other things, These people
who work in Sacramento, probably in every state capital around
the country, and in Washington, d c. Obviously have these
huge amounts of power that they have developed over the
(02:26):
course of years by horse trading, by getting things for
one client, promising things to another, using them against each other,
pitting politicians against lobbyists, lobbyists against politicians, And it appears
that Dana Williamson was one of those people and very
successful at it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Now this was.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
This was interesting because Activision itself was being sued by
the state of California Department of Fair Employment. Housing sued
Activision four years ago, alleging that company officials discriminated against women,
paid them less than men, and ignored reports of egregious
(03:10):
sexual harassment. It turns out that a member of Activision's
board of directors gave a forty thousand dollars check to
Gavin Newsom's campaign eight years ago, and an additional one
hundred thousand dollars to a committee that opposed his recall campaign.
(03:30):
All of that recall campaign, of course failed, but Newsom's
office says, oh, there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's just normal.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's what happens, even though there is massive state litigation
pending against the company. The idea that those company higher
ups would be gifting tens of and in case, one
hundred thousand dollars to campaigns that directly benefit Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The complaint against Active Vision Blizzard from twenty twenty one,
again the distributor of Call of Duty candy Crush, alleges
at the company discriminated against women. Ah, GAVINU someone stand
for that. He won't take that kind of dirty money.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He is a woman, a supporter, and.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
He's a You're going to a powerful ally ally women.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
The complaint alleges that this company Act division Blizzard, fostered
a pervasive frat boy workplace culture that continues to thrive
in the office.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Women are subjected.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Can I have some some music for this? I feel
like something called a cube crawl needs like some music,
you know, like, no, something more festive, something seedier.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, body, body, body, body, boody.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Women are subjects to.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Cube crawls, in which male employees drink copious amounts of alcohol.
Is they crawl their way through various cubicles in the
office and engage in inappropriate behavior toward female employees.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Let's just pull the car over real quick.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Let's put all of us in cubicles here at KFI,
and let's put all the men in one of the
conference rooms getting wasted.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like you're drinking that old bottle of jack we have
in the fridge.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well that was many years ago, but no, we still
have it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
No, No, I mean, but I don't think anybody's opened
that probably right, But let's say it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It opened up to me and you guys got all
we all.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Got straws in the deep end, and then.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You decided it would be fun to walk around work
to the various cubicles and be like hey, Amy King
and Amy King's and her cubicle and you're like grabbing
her ass and her legs and stuff, all drunk on
jack in the middle of the day. And then you
go into Anne's cubicle You're like hey, and Hong Kong,
and then you go to Michelle. I mean, could you imagine,
(06:03):
like this is the year of our Lord twenty twenty five,
Like this isn't happening.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
This happens.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Apparently it happens.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, give me a break cube crawls. I've never
heard of such a thing, does it? Are they actually
on hands and knees crawling looking up skirts? Are women
wearing skirts these days? I just I have a hard
time believing that this happens.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, there's more to this, because.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It says that male employees proudly come into work hung
over and that they play video games for long periods
of time that I believe you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Do work at Activision. It's kind of in your job.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, you're Tom Hanks in Big right. We'll good in
tomorrow they come back.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Overseas, there was a there was an unprecedented act of sabotage.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
According to the Prime Minister of Poland.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
There was an explosion on a rail line near the
Ukrainian border, and Prime Minister Donald Tusk had called it
a part of a string of suspected attacks targeting European infrastructure.
Passenger train that was traveling between Warsaw and the eastern
Polish city of Lublin forced to make an emergency stop
early yesterday. Damage was spotted on the tracks. This route
(07:22):
also happens to be a crucial part of the network
for delivering aid to Ukraine, so the assumption, at least
by some Polish officials is that this was the work
of Russian agents.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is that time of year.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The fifteenth annual KFI Pastathon is here. Chef Bruno's charity,
Katerina's Club, provides more than twenty five thousand meals every
week to kids in need in southern California, and truly,
your generosity every year makes it all happen. Our live
broadcast is Giving Tuesday, that is December second. This year,
December second, Mark your calendars five am to eight pm
(07:59):
at the Anaheim White House. Will have all the details
coming soon. But there are ways you can help starting today.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
First of all, you can donate at any time on
the website kfiam six forty dot com slash Pastathon. Wendy's
Restaurants are again teaming up with us. You can donate
five dollars in more to Katerina's Club. You get a
coupon book for Wendy's Goodies through December eighth.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Or go to Yamava, a resort and casino Yamava, Get
out there play. When you cash your winning ticket at
the Kiosk, it'll ask you if you want to donate
your change. Always say yes, it's good karma. Good karma
at the casino's the best. And then you pick Katerina's
Club from the four options on the screen.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Hey, Conway, by the way, is going to be live
at Smart and Final in Yorba Linda, coming up Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Oh, that's going to be a good time.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Head on out there shop for Thanksgiving. You could donate
to pastathon right there in the store hang out for
the live broadcast and they are going to have food
and prizes and all that good stuff. And the first
two hundred and fifty people that show up to the
Smart and Final in your Berlinda Friday afternoon will get
special gift bags from Smart and Final.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And then Saturday, this will be the twenty second Neil
Savedro will be broadcasting live two to five at Wendy's
in Mission via HO. That's on Alicia Parkway Mission via
HO Wendy's Neil Savedra on Saturday two to five.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Also a great hang.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We've been telling you about Dana Williamson. This is the
former Gavin Newsom chief of staff who was popped for
federal corruption charges and mentioned that this lawsuit against Activision
Blizzard the makers of call of duty filed by the
state against them, and as the case was winding through
La County Superior Court, Activision started dumping money into lobbying
(09:47):
in Sacramento and guests who was lobbying on their behalf
someone named Dana Williamson, etc. Among others, and one of
the other co conspirators that was indicted in this in
the charges that were filed this last week. At about
that time, Gavin Newsom announced that he hired Dana Williamson
(10:08):
to be his chief of staff. So not only do
you have lobbyist Greg Campbell, longtime associate of Dana Williamson,
lobbying on behalf of Activision, the good friend Dana Williamson
is now in the governor's office. In December of twenty three,
the state announced it had reached a settlement agreement with Activision.
(10:28):
They got this thing turned away or put to bed,
shall we say, for fifty four million dollar price tag,
and the bulk of that money went to compensate women
who had been underpaid, and the company didn't admit.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Any of the wrongdoing in any of all of this.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So, I mean, if you wanted to spend some time
digging around in all of the the dirty lobby details
that go on in Sacramento, that would be a show
every day, and it would be a show every day
on every station in the country if you did it
in every city.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's just part of doing business.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's the cost of doing business and politics in this land,
and it's has been since the inception of time. People
are going to get dirty, they're going to take dirty
money from dirty people, and there's going to be layers
of plausible deniability that distance a Gavin Newsom from a
company where people are going in and grabbing people's asses
during drunken cube crawls.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And that's just the way things are.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
There's very little clean money that exists for political gain,
very very little, if any.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Lobbying.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I met a lobbyist one time when I was flying
where was I fly?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh, flying two Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If I recall to go to the Savannah Bananas game,
that was an unimportant piece of information. But I met
a lobbyist, a guy who fully admitted, full suit and everything,
flying from here in a burbank up to up to Sacramento,
and I had asked.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
About what he did.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We were talking about work, and he explained how much
money you can make. He's like, he said, if he
wanted to go dirty as a lobbyist, he'd be a
millionaire in two months. Yeah, But he was talking about
why he doesn't do that, you know, the reputation that
he's built up over a couple decades. He's like, I'd
(12:24):
throw it all away if I took any amount of
dirty money, but I would be an rich Bot Beyond
my wildest dreams.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Dirty money that you know about? Yeah, exactly, all right,
coming up next. It looks like LAX is going to
improve traffic. We'll tell you what the plan is. Some
people are saying that, some people are laughing, But we'll
tell you what the plan is when we return.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Chargers austin Jacksonville. Yesterday thirty five to six. Rams did
beat the Seahawks at SOFI twenty one nineteen. The Cowboys
Raiders tonight in Vegas for Monday Night football. New York
Jets cornerback Chris Boyd shot and critically wounded very early
yesterday morning. They said he's in critical but stable condition
at Bellevue Hospital there in New York. Shooting took place
(13:22):
just after two am on Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Maybe, as Jim Harbaugh says, nobody solves cancer after midnight.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
They do even less after two am.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We stayed in Jacksonville at the Hilton on the campus
of the Mayo Clinic.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And how about a dose of perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
When at least a couple of conversations I had with
people in the hotel. Guys there their wives. A couple
guys in their seventies with the wives. One wife had
a brain tumor and was having issues with you know,
just normal. They got the brain tumor out, but now
she's having problems with mobility and just walking around. They
(14:14):
love to golf together, and suddenly she's stuck in a
sand trap and can't get out, and she can't figure
out why. She can't get why things aren't working. Another
guy had a wife with cancer that they thought they'd
beat and it had come back, and they're at Mayo
clinic and she doesn't want to leave the room because
their dogs. I mean, it's just like wow, like the
(14:34):
amount of perspective staying there for a football game, and
it was it was incredible, It was it was nice
to I mean, it's awful, but it gives you a
lot of gratitude, shall we say, to get that kind
of viewpoint when you're just there for something so trivial
that yes, it means a lot in the grand scheme
(14:55):
of things, if you're an NFL fan or what have you,
but it means nothing in the grand scheme of life.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
La world airport's.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Board of Airport Commissioners has approved a one billion dollar
phase of spending for new roadway improvement plans. By the way,
it's not a hard deadline, but it's a hard deadline.
They have until the Olympics of twenty eight to get
this stuff done.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But in the grand scheme of things with transportation, that's
not that much time.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Is it. No, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Critics have argued this plan is leaving the airport's most
infamous bottleneck, which is the airport itself largely untouched, and
that's the horseshoe design. Listen, in the fifties, the horseshoe
design may have been perfect, it may have been glorious,
but our population has what quadrupled since then, and air
(15:52):
traffic in and out of lax has arisen exponentially as well.
The plan is a streamline traffic flow at airport entrances
and exits to try to reduce the jams on public
roads like Supulvida and Century. And it's set to be complete.
This is the best part. They have timed it out
(16:13):
so perfectly. They say it's going to be done two
months before the Olympics is over. That seems a little tight,
doesn't it a little considering considering the number of construction
projects around Lax that have gone over schedule. They said,
it's going to make the airport easier. Sorry, they're gonna
(16:33):
make it's gonna make the airport safer and separate, separ
rate airport travelers from everyone else on the road more efficiently.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Problem is, you're that again.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's not necessarily that it was put in the wrong
place when it was originally constructed Lax.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It's that everything.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Grew up around it and four oh five expanded, and
now people use Century and Supulveda as ways to avoid
the four oh five. So it's just one of those
It's one of those things that happens as a result
of progress. The project designers have promised to smooth out
travel on the elevated segments to and from the U
(17:12):
shaped roadway. They said, the traffic in the loop itself, though,
will roughly remain the same, which is arguably Dante's fifth
Ring of Hell.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know, as we move away from cars more and
more that I will say this about Lax. Their pick
up lot for Uber and Lyft works pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It was a disaster when it first started, but it's
gotten pretty streamline and it works pretty well if you
can walk.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
If you can't walk, yeah, that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
There are there are some airports I've flown into that
have great access to uber lots, to the rideshare lots,
and they do it really well, partly because they have
you know, they tend to be the smaller places. Yeah,
I mean, Burbank is a small enough place, and it's not.
It's probably the best version of what I've seen, but
(18:04):
it's because it's a small to medium airport and they
can get away with putting an uberlot right there in
front of everybody. It just doesn't It's not the same
if you're flying into Phoenix or flying into Denver or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Would you like your jeopardy question?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh boy, my wife got to ask me my jeopardy
question last time.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh did you get it? No, you didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think I did.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Rulers you don't measure with for two hundred dollars, the
body of hat Shepsuit, one of the few female rulers
of ancient Egypt, is pervers preserved. Excuse me in this
capital city, Cairo.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes, don't ask what a question? Mark you know the
I happen.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To ask with a question mark. No, yes, I do
have to ask.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I know, but you could say, what is Cairo? You
can say demonstratively like I know the answer to this.
I'm Gary F.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And Hoffman R.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
My initials are all right?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That checks out.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Coming up next we will be looking into OJ's estate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
How much fun is that? Let's move on.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The OJ Simpson estate has taken a key step toward
finally paying Fred Goldman nearly fifty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know the story. We all know the story.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Fred Goldman won that wrongful death judgment in the civil
case against OJ Simpson after he was acquitted for killing
Nicole and Fred Goldman's son.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, this was the ninety seven civil court case since Ron.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
By the way, Fred Goldman's name has become more famous
than Ron Goldman, honestly because Fred Goldman has fought for
his son for so probably true? Well, how old was
Ron when he died twenty seven? I don't know, I'm
making that up. Let me look it up.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's probably.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, it's been longer since the murder than he
was twenty five, than he was alongst twenty five, So
Simpson was found liable back in ninety seven. The payment
at the time was ordered at thirty three and a
half million dollars. Obviously, most of that went unpaid while
OJ was alive.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He died just last year.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The Malcolm Laverne is the executive of the OJ Simpson
estate and said the nearly fifty eight million dollars actually
fifty seven million, nine hundred ninety seven, eight hundred and
fifty eight dollars and twelve cents was negotiated with Fred Goldman.
He said the estate plans to pay what it can
(20:58):
by auctioning off OJ's sessions, some of which have been stolen.
We know that's, of course, but that they are working
with attorneys to recover the items. Also said he was
going to ask again this is the attorney for the executor,
I should say of the estate. Said he was going
to ask the corps to approve an administrative fee for
Ron Goldman, who has assisted in managing estate affairs. Most
(21:20):
of the others rejected creditor claims, accepting only those from
Fred Goldman and from the irs. That includes paying off
a separate six hundred and thirty six thousand dollars claim
from the State of California, which would have had to
take legal action if the state wants to collect. But
this is the biggest shift and a massive, massive shift
(21:43):
over the course of the thirty years, because, among other things,
the executor vowed that he was never going to pay
the Goldman family said that right after OJ died, I
am never paying the Goldmans.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
They are never getting any money.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Obviously, Fred has maintained that going after OJ and civil
court was the only.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Way that he could get justice for his son Ron.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Eighty four years old.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Fred Goldman is now, Wow, that's just such a weird
in terms of defining one of those ongoing stories that
has defined current events in the time period that you're alive.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
That's one for me because.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's taken up our whole lives.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, you figure ninety four that the Bronco chase, I mean,
I can clearly remember where I was and what I
was doing that afternoon. Yeah, and then the guilty verdict
was marked a time. The Bronco Chase was right after
I graduated from college. The guilty verdict was maybe two
(22:48):
day three days before I met my now wife. And
then as this goes on, having met people like Kim
Goldman at points, and then you know, having seen these
this story bubble up every couple of years, and then
OJ getting in trouble once again when he was in Vegas,
and just this it's one of those weird and negative
(23:10):
threads that just continues to pop up through your life.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
When the chase went on, I was still in Catholic
school And now look at me.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Do you think that's what prompted you to get out
of the Catholic school? The OJ chase. Now you're seeing
a life you're like that, you know, life of crime.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Maybe well, I mean now you're saying that he did it,
so oh you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Gosh, I'm afraid that he might come after me.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, that's the Bible, right, Yeah, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That, by the way, is a good watch if you've
never seen or you're young and you don't know the
whole saga that OJ series that they did, was.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That Ryan Murphy the most American crime story.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that is an out standing job on the whole
saga and what it means and how he got off.
There was a lot going on in Los Angeles in
the country with racial relations and everything. There was so
much going on that did not happen in a vacuum.
His superstardom, his ego, what was going on with the LAPD.
(24:21):
There's so much that went into the firestorm that has
been this story for decades. But it's really well done.
If you if you've only come in and out of
the OJ story or you never really lived through it.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
And if I remember, ESPN also did a great doctor.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
ESPN did a great job as well. Then they both
came out kind of around the same time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Again, a huge thank you to everybody who came out
to lucid Or Brewing Company in Chino Hills on Friday.
We had a great time with Cardboard Shannon that was
out there and the brewfest that went off, Yes it
was it was, but they still raise the money for
the Chino Valley Fire Foundation. Our next appearance, we're going
(25:05):
to be with everybody, of course, at Pastathon, which comes
up the week after Thanksgiving. It'll be Tuesday, December second,
broadcasting all of the shows live from five in the morning,
Amy King and Wakeup Call all the way through eight
o'clock that night at the Anaheim White House Restaurant.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's when we all come together and it makes us
feel good about the holiday season. You've been involved before,
We've been involved before. It really is my favorite thing
we do here at KFI. You don't have to wait
to start helping, though. You can donate any time. Get
into that Christmas spirit mood. Go to KFI am six
forty dot com slash pastathon, go to any Wendy's restaurant
(25:43):
in southern California.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yum Yum.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Donate five dollars or more and you'll get a coupon
book for Wendy's goodies and it's a great coupon book.
A lot of free stuff in there. Or yamava. You're
out there, you're gaym and you're enjoying yourself. When you
take your winning ticket to the kiosk, it'll ask you
if you want to donate your change. I always do
this because it's good karma at the casino. You want
the good juju, this is how you get it. You
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pick Katerina's Club from the four options on the screen,
and bam, you are part of the party.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
You missed any part of our show, go back and
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