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January 15, 2025 29 mins
Gary and Shannon are out and Mark Thompson and Marla Tellez fill in. Mark and Marla have the latest updates on the Palisades Fire and Eaton Fire.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know Marlow's pregnant.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
I am.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
It's very exciting. I really. First of all, you really
can't tell until just note until just now. Like I mean,
I've seen you over the last few months, and it's
been a lot. It's weird how you're in the third.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Trimesteran I'm in the final stretch.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, it really is only now that you're beginning to show.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
I have just under what nine weeks to go, so
I still have some time. This is the little little
baby girl so sweet. We call her BEG for baby
Girl BG. Yeah, she's down there. So yes, I've learned
learned so much of course going through this. This is
first time I've been pregnant that in this trimester the

(00:51):
baby gains a half pound every week. So now she
just we had a scan yesterday morning, which is why
I couldn't join you yesterday, and all of her measurements
look good. She's completely healthy, just a weighs just over
three pounds. So we're so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
About I saw this scan and you can see her face.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
I know, we saw her little face and she's gonna sweeze,
little lips and little nose and it's amazing. Yeah, maybe
I'll put that out there on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Really sure?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Why not? Yeah, but yeah, in the last trimester, they
that's when they gained most of the weight really quickly.
So so I'm gonna get a lot bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I find myself reflexively always trying to get pregnant women
anything they want, if you need, you know, anything during
the show, if you need to lie down, if you
need to stand up, if you need uh. And you
can't drink coffee, so I think you're at a decaf coffee.
I did, and we don't have decaf coffee in the

(01:50):
you know, the iHeart World of confections and other crap
that we you can pick up. You can pick up
coffee and Dorito's and all this other stuff. So Keana
actually went and got you a coffee. I think, canna.
How do you you went, like down.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
The hall or well, it's like on the other side
of the office, down the hall and around the corner.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
It's like the other side of the building, which is
which is great. I mean, that's the kind of commitment
we need to a pregnant host.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, first of all, Kenna, I thank you so much. Yes,
I don't need anyone de cater to be very kind
of you. I appreciated the decaf makes you feel semi normal.
But I asked Mark, just to be fair, I asked,
I'll go do it.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'll get Oh no, no, no, you're not a diva that way.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
And she said she said, no, it's complicated and this
and that, and I don't know the building. Well, so yeah,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did you give her a five spot when she gave
you the uh?

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Oh god, now you're making me look bad. We see
what I have in my wallet, Canna, I'll get you
after this show.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
But that's great.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Look you look great on the So glad that it's
it's all proceeded so beautifully.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Oh, it's such.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Where the changes that this is so? And let me
thing because again I don't know. I'm just so warmed
by the whole process. Did the changes to your surprise
you the changes to your body or change?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Like?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
What do you feel and the experience through this pregnancy?
Was there anything?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Well, first of all, I've been so blessed because I've
heard from so many women that say you're going to
do you're going to feel this and first trimester, you're
going to feel this in second trimester, and most of
it hasn't happened. So, for instance, I didn't have morning sickness.
My biggest symptom has been fatigue, where it's a fatigue
I've never felt before. And I'm a little you know,

(03:34):
energizer bunny where I just go, go, go. But in
the first trimester, I had to lay down at certain points,
like I have to lay down right now. But that's that.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Do you think this is because I mean, the lack
of morning sickness is this kind of thing because you're
a runner, like you're an incredible shape, just move going
into this pregnancy.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
The doctors don't doctors don't say no. They luck of the.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Draw, and maybe it's luck of the draw. But I
am still running, and you know, I mean with doctor's clearance.
And if you see me out there running, it's not
a pretty sight.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
If you see me out there running, you'll know that
I'm running from a fire because I am not a runner.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
But I'm so excited for you.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Thank you Mark. And by the way, the first time
that Mark saw me this morning. I was standing up
and the first thing he says to me is, you know,
congratulates me on the pregnancy. And then he says, sit down,
sit down, you're so worried about I am.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I really there's something of a pregnant women. I want
it all to go well for all of you.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
So just on the fire, as we have visited various
aspects of the fire, there were great examples of evacuations
done well, and there were also examples of evacuations that
had huge problems. Now the problems I'll just start with.
I can think of the Palisades where you know, it's
the video we've all seen with the cars stacked up

(04:56):
and people just abandoned. Yeah, and they ran for the lives,
and I understand why, but it created huge problems in
terms of getting assets up that road.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
So it seems as though that's something that could be
improved upon.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
For well one hundred percent. I didn't realize that there
were actually community coalitions. And forgive me my ignorance, but
there are community coalitions that organize in communities to hold
evacuation drills. For instance, there's the Topanga Coalition for Emergency preparedness,
and they get together and they run through evacuation drills

(05:30):
with their residents, primarily for earthquakes and now wildfires, which
have become so commonplace in our lives, but they're not
done frequently enough. And Maniville Canyon, they which we know
came under threat of Friday and to Saturday and Sunday
and they had won. Their last one was in twenty nineteen.

(05:54):
That's five years ago.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, that was just months before the Getty fire.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
And oh my goodness, we haven't talked about the fact
that you.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Lost we lost our house ye in that fire and
the Getty fire, Yeah, and that that raced up that
hillside and just took out a ton of homes there
in that in the area of Brentwood, in.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
The hills above Sunset.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you see the importance of these evacuation drills, and
they're gonna, I would suggest, have to be played out
in a much more high profile fashion and a much
more frequent way, because you can reach people through Facebook,
through social media, and they should be reached. And now
neighborhood groups and I understand in the months that immediately

(06:36):
followed this, assuming we have a period of calm and
you know that's maybe a big assumption, but in the
months that follow this, there will be buy in from
all of us.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's the months after that that you have to worry about.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
That's when the cameras go away. And yeah, I mean
when the story isn't top of the newscast every single night.
I know in this, but there needs to be buying.
And they're difficult to plan though, because wildfires are so
unpredictable and the safe evacuation routes depend on the direction
of a fire is moving, so it's it is hard

(07:11):
to organize these drills, and because things can change so radically.
But I think it's important to give residents an idea
of this is what it's going to be like when
all hell's breaking loose and you're inundated. We're all going
the same way. We all have the same purposes to
save our lives.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
But this is the point that emergency managers, unless you
run a drill, sometimes don't know where the bottlenecks are
going to be. Like that was a huge bottleneck there
in the Palisades, and I don't know that people really
thought about that ahead of time. You had one way in,
one way out, and you had a mountain, almost literal
mountain as it went up into the mountain of cars

(07:49):
stacked up.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, and they brought in the dozer, the bulldozer to
have to move them away because it they needed first
responders to be able to get through there.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Had there been drills, might they have been able to
identify that and a different and more effective way to
get people out.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
So this is something that really has to be examined
as well in this period after the incident.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's like the active shooter drills that take place at schools. Sadly, sadly,
but that is a reality. So they need to do
that and all schools practice that now, even the little
wei ones out there. So you know, my daughter, my
future daughter will be doing active shooter drills, which you
know is sick ning.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
That's a whole other but part of it.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
To that point, there needs to be these evacuation drills
for wildfires.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, and so we urge more of it. It will follow.
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Speaker 4 (09:14):
Again, it's Bill's b I l LS. One of the
things we've talked about as we go through what we've
just dealt with on the fires is some of the
realities and their stark realities about staffing and about assets
that La County and La City have.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, I mean this came out last week right when
the Mayor of La Karen Bass, was confronted about budget
cuts as she did recently, you know, seventeen and a
half million dollars cut in the recent budget, and she
outright said that this didn't hinder the response. And then
of course we know that the Chief came forward eventually,
and this was on Friday with rgg Gressiet when she

(09:57):
said the Chief said, yes, absolutely did impact our ability
to respond to these fires.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, she said that she pointed to a couple of specifics.
I thought the maintenance, for example, of a lot of
these pumper trucks and these fire engines that have to
be maintained. And there are other assets too, I just
mentioned those, and so you see where the shoe pinches
on that seventeen and a half million. Again, to be fair,
this was a situation largely driven by events that needed

(10:27):
to be handled from the air, and we couldn't get
aerial assets up because of the velocity of those wins.
So maybe you can argue that the seventeen and a
half million wouldn't have mattered that way. But still, now
that the dust has settled a bit, you've got to,
I think, take a strong, clear, even withering look at

(10:49):
the realities. And now that's seventeen and a half million
plus all the other revelations were realizing, which is associated
with understaffing. That becomes very relevant to the conversation.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, and there's a new analysis that's being done because
when I was on with Neil on money, he brought
up a great point. You know, off the top of
my head, I can tell you that l and he
said this too, that LAPD should have about ten thousand officers, right,
and it doesn't. It's in the eight thousand range, so
that is understaffed as well. LAPD. It didn't have a

(11:22):
number on that LAFD pardon me, pardon me, but it
is most recent data available from a CNN analysis from
the ten largest US cities and other comparable departments shows
that LAFD is less staffed than almost any other major city,
and despite being located in one of the most fire

(11:43):
prone areas in the country, LAFD has less than one
firefighter for every one thousand residents.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, and then you go to Chicago or Dallas or Houston,
they have roughly two firefighters for the same number of residents.
So it's and sam the Ago has fewer firefighters per
capita than LA. But that's pretty much the only other
major city that would fall into that category. So LA
really is lagging desperately in personnel.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah, compare San Francisco and La. San Francisco has more
than eighteen hundred firefighters for about one point five million residents.
LA has roughly thirty five hundred firefighters for a city
of almost four million, So there definitely is a staffing issue.
There needs to be more firefighters and I get your
point about, yeah, maybe this fire should have been it

(12:34):
needs to be fought from the air more so. And
on the first day all the aircraft were grounded because
of the excessively strong wins. I get that. But to
Crowley's point, she says, any budget cut is going to
hurt It's going to hurt our response. Well, if we
have less of this, we have less of this, whether
it's personnel or whether it's a truck or so on

(12:56):
and so forth. And we've talked about fire shortages for
the ambulances. They don't have enough RAS rescue ambulances as well.
I mean, the list goes on and on. It's going
to hinder response.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, two points.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
First of all, that immense conflagration, this insane fire that
took in so many areas, I mean Malibu, palacees Altaden,
et cetera. Again, it had to be fought from the
fire from the air because of terrain and the immensity
of it. That said, this doesn't just apply that is

(13:31):
to say, the personnel shortage to those fires. It also
applies to structure fires. It also applies to some of
the things you're talking about. In other words, we're focusing
on this huge fire, But the reality is shortcomings that
and budget shortcomings when it comes to the fire department
extend well beyond these huge, huge blazes.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I get it.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
This inferno might have been one of those things that
needed to be fought from the air, But the day
to day work of firefighters in Los Angeles is being
underfunded and that's just intolerable.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It can't continue.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
We've done Gina Silva has done a lot of stories.
You know her at Fox eleven. She's a great, great reporter. Yeah,
and she's done a lot about the shortages of you know,
you call nine one one and they don't have a
rescue ambulance nearby. It's at a different location and it's
going to take too long to get there. I mean,

(14:24):
people's lives are on the line.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
The problem with being a big city like Los Angeles
is that there's not a lot of money and you
have to you're spreading money across so many different city
services that you have to make tough decisions. But I'm sorry,
I think fire and police really have to be at
the top of that list, and we've got to really

(14:47):
step to it.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, and you know, now she is under fire. Well,
Karen bass.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Is a whole other conversation.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Well, we can have that too, because there's that change
dot org petition that is not that far away from
meeting a goal that it would, you know, really start
to pick up steam.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
The one thing I would say is all.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
And that's pardon me, and just some people don't know this.
That change that Org petition is to get her to resign.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, they want to get rid of her. I mean,
and here's this deal. I mean, look, history is laden
with bad decisions and also with politicians who've been affected
by natural events.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Go back to nineteen seventy nine. Google this.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
In Chicago, they got I think twenty one inches of
snow and there was a mayor there. I think Michael
Blandick was his name. So this guy Blandick, it was like, oh,
what can you do? I mean, he's doing everything he can.
He's the mayor. I mean, this is snowstorm cost him
his job. And Jane Byrne, she's the first woman to
be mayor of Chicago. She skated in. I mean I

(15:48):
say skated in, meaning there was nothing he could do
to turn back the reality, which was Chicagoan's felt deserted
by Belandick's administration, just like Angelino's feel deserted by Bass.
I think Bass is taking on incredible political water. I'd
be very surprised if she can survive it, and I
think that is instructive. These examples. I give you the

(16:11):
Chicago example, there are others, So watch that Karen Bass
situation carefully.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Now we want to We're going to continue our conversation
about the fires, because they've been all encompassing, of course.
But joining us now is somebody who I've been following
since Leahina, since Lahina happened, because I saw his work
online and it was absolutely incredible investigating the cause what
went wrong. His name is Jeremy Lee. He's an independent

(16:38):
freelancer working with NBC Los Angeles and ABC Hawaii KI TV,
and Jeremy's on the line now. Jeremy, you are here
from Hawaii right now and you are covering the Palisades fire. Welcome,
Thanks so much for being here, Thanks.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
For having me. We've been trying to have this conversation
for a year and a half about and I actually
moved to LA when I was eighteen, so I've lived
most of my life here in LA. But I was
covering and working in Hawaii for the ABC affiliate. Once
the pandemic hit, I lost my position with a Univision,
the Spanish language channel here and ended up going on

(17:19):
air as an on camera reporter in Hawaii. And that's
when I covered the Lahina fires.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Oh my gosh, okay, so full circle. You're here, You're
now in the Palisades fire. How did the two compare?
Because I've heard a lot of that where this looks
like Lahina. Do you feel that way?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
There are so many similarities and so many story points
that are recurring. It is almost like deja vous. It
is obviously on a much bigger scale, just in terms
of acreage. The fire is almost a twenty four thousand acres.
Of course, the Lahina fire covered two thousand, seven hundred

(17:56):
I believe, so scale wise it's different, but the loss
of human life was worse in Lahaina. Now, I actually
flew in from Hawaii. I spent New Year's there in
a week of vacation, and I flew in on the seventh.
So I'm flying into lax and looking out the window
and seeing the fire, and one I land, I get

(18:17):
the news that people abandoned their cars, and that's when
I knew we're in trouble. Once people are abandoning their cars.
Now that means that the fires traveling at a rapid velocity.
And so I saw those images, I booked it home.
I live in Culver City. I grabbed my Prius and

(18:37):
I just made my way up Pacific Coast Highway. Now
another big difference, and the biggest one for me is
a reporter that's boots on the ground. A lot of
my stuff you mentioned, you know, I've posted to social media,
jeremy reporter on all platforms, and so I was going
to get content for the people for online and I'm

(19:01):
driving and it's sundown now on Tuesday of the fire.
The thing that I could do is I had access.
And that's because all I have to do is show
my media credentials and I am granted access due to
California law passed in twenty twenty in the wake of
the civil unrest. And that has been a huge difference

(19:22):
in my coverage from Lahina, where I was shut out
by police, by authorities at every turn, almost quite dramatically
at some points. But here I am on the third
street on ramp, you know, in Santa Monica, and I'm
descending and you know why they restrict access because all

(19:43):
of a sudden, I'm driving it's night and there's a
giant tree within my sight within twenty feet all of
a sudden because it's dark, and the trees across the
ten and so I back up and go all the
way around, just squeeze by it. And I'm going up
pch and I'm seeing the firestorm as I get up
to Malibu and I get to Topanga and it is
un recognizable to me. I see they just put up

(20:07):
a you know, a stop light feature, and the Malibu
feed been behind it is destroyed, and I just see
black smoke north of Topanga, and I know that there's
the businesses are there, and I I just as a
safety measure, I decided not to go any further. But
but you know this, for me with Lahaina, I didn't

(20:29):
witness the actual fire because I was covering the Big
Island on the other side of the channel, and we
had similar wind conditions on the Big Island. We had
five fires on the Big Island the same day as
the Lahina fire, and you know, but a different result.
Nobody really knew what was going on in Mali. That's
another big factor here's communication. The fire in the Palisades

(20:53):
happened earlier in the day. It was easier to communicate
because the cell towers weren't so those who I have
talked to, even those who fled from their cars, were
able to communicate with loved ones, get in touch with
you know, husbands and wives and make sure they could
get the children from school and so on. Lahina was

(21:13):
different because the cell towers were out by the morning
and so communication was very difficult. The missteps in Lahina
are more acute. You can point to very specific moments.
For example, the fire department in Maui left the scene
of essentially you know, smoldering ashes. The Lahina fires started

(21:36):
at you know, six am from a down you know,
we had over two dozen down power lines on Maui,
and they left the scene in the one pm hour,
and within an hour it flared up. And when you're
dealing with eighty to one hundred mile an hour winds,
then it's it's too late. It was almost too late.
When I touched down at lax I saw the forecast.

(21:58):
The first thing I did was turned on the affiliate
I work for, which is NBC Local here in la
and I waited for the weather report as soon as
I heard eighty to one hundred mile an hour winds,
and you have those hurricane force winds and already an
active fire which people are fleeing. That's how I knew
to get up PCH because I'd unfortunately be witnessing what

(22:21):
I couldn't see in Hawaii, which is the firestorm itself.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm so glad that you mentioned that similarity as well.
I mean, there's a lot that you've just said that
we I feel sort of is instructive moving forward, like
cell towers and blockage of roads, et cetera. But the
origins of this fire in the Palisades, which we will
talk about Palisades in Malibu interesting parallel. You talk about

(22:49):
the fact that there was the same day incident that
they left too early, they thought it was controlled, but
those embers were still alive and then re energized by
those winds they feel as though increasing and again you
know nothing official yet that might have been the case
in the Palisades fire as well.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I wish we had more time to talk about the parallels.
I'd love to maybe even have you back later in
the week, because it is it's eerie almost the parallels
between Lehina and what we've just been through with the
Palisades in Malibu and Alta Dina and southern California around
the around the horn. So please come back and talk
to us again.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it sounds like we're losing your Jeremy Lee.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
I mean again, NBC and ABC in both Hawaii and
here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Great perspective, really terrific.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
And you see what that's a great reporter. He got
a lot into a short time. When we come back.
The follow up associated with lawsuits, we mentioned that they
were beginning in the Eton fire with Alta Dina residents yesterday. Well,
now it's happened. Palisades residents are now suing hamasan Israeli agreement.

(24:02):
This ceasefire hostage deal is the big news internationally. Of course,
we've been talking fire here because that's the big news
here in California and southern California having just been through
so much, you know, Marla, this.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Had to happen.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
The lawsuits, Yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Talked about the lawsuits yesterday. I think there were four
of them yesterday out of the Altadena fire. That's for
southern California. Edison, and it does appear that Southern Californa,
California Edison is going to bear some responsibility. We're talking
to Royal Oaks yesterday, and the legal restrictions within which

(24:37):
you bring these cases almost dictate that they'll be checks
cut to people there, not to mention that they're legitimately
probably should be. I mean, it seems as though that
fire was caused by so Cal ed Again, that will
all be decided. But now it's about the Palisades and
this other shoe has dropped. There are lawsuits there from

(24:59):
residents for the LA Department of Water and Power.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, alleging that the city and the agency were unprepared
for the Palisades fire. So this isn't necessarily about the
root cause of the fire, because I know we're going
to get into that, But this is just the fact
that the residents are saying they came together and they're
saying you failed us, essentially. The suit was filed in
the California Superior Court Monday and seeks damages for the

(25:24):
costs repair and replacement of damaged or destroyed property, the
cost for alternative living expenses, loss of wages, earning capacity
or profits, and any other relief a court deems appropriate.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
What they're saying is, hey, look, we think that the
water supply system that was servicing these areas in and
around the Palisades failed and that failure was because of
you guys. You knew about this, and you should have
done something and been better prepared, and you should be
legally culpable.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
One of those failures they point to something that we've
talked about a lot, is that the fact that the
Niese Annez Pardon Reservoir, one hundred and seventeen million gallon
water storage complex that is all part of LA's water
supply system, was empty for about a year, and this
was a cost saving measure, and the LAFD chief did

(26:19):
not know this. We asked her about that, and she
said she didn't know, nor was she notified, that that
one hundred and seventeen million gallon water storage was in
fact empty. So that's one of the failures that this
lawsuit points to.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
In the lawsuit, they say this is a quote further,
despite dire warnings by the National Weather Service of a
particularly dangerous condition red flag warning of critical fire weather,
which had the potential for rapid fire spread and extreme
fire behavior. The LADWP again this is from their complaint,
was unprepared for the Palisades fire. So the plaintiffs here

(26:55):
are several families, several businesses, and I suspect they're going
to be more families and more businesses that will join
these types of suit. Again, this one is around the
Pacific pala stage, and the realities here are both confusing
and yet stark. You know, Marla, I mean, there really

(27:17):
there is something to this. The question becomes a court
will have to decide to what extent this incident or
constellation of incidents around their preparedness was responsible for the damage.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Yeah, and LEDWP hasn't commented yet according to this report
on this lawsuit. But they did issue a statement about
the reservoir, and I just mentioned that it was for
cost saving purposes. Their statement says it was required to
take the reservoir out of service to meet safe drinking

(27:51):
water regulations, to commission the support and resources to implement
repairs at or two sending as LDWP is to the
city charter's competitive bidding process, which requires time.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, and again like that's one of those things where
you go, I don't know, I mean, I don't know
where you were in the bidding process.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
It seems like a really long time went by, you know,
So that will have to be talked about and it
will be revealed.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
And speaking of estimates of how much this all of
these losses are going to cost, so ACU Weather put
out an estimate yesterday that Congressman Brad Sherman, who represents
part of the area. He repeated during one of the
pressers and I just caught my ear because it's staggering,
But two hundred and fifty billion to two hundred and
seventy five billion dollars. Yeah, and losses. We're talking businesses,

(28:38):
we're talking homes, we're talking loss of wages. All of
that two fifty to two hundred and seventy five billion.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Some of the most expensive real estate in the world.
And so when you add that all up, it comes
into that number. And so when you factor that into
lawsuits and the fare plan and insurance and all of
these issues that rely eight to the fires and loss
there are a lot of questions that need to be answered,
and they will be answered. I mean, what happened will

(29:06):
be laid bare. And the courtroom is one of the
places it will be laid bare.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah, more to come. More to come on that.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
When we come back in the eleven o'clock hour. The
Palisades resident who lost his home watched it burn from
his Tesla camera. This is an extraordinary kind of thing. Also,
want to talk about the origins of the Palisades fire,
very similar to the Lahino fire in some ways.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
We'll talk about that as well.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Mark Thompson with Marloteas for Gary and Shannon on KFI
AM six forty we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
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