Jesus Christ Show | Hour 1 - Are You Reliable [05/19]

Are You Reliable
Native American and Christian pratices both religions
Gospel of Judas

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to KFI AM six fortyon demand. Do you your people talking
about you sometimes or if they describeyou, how do you think that they
would describe you? Do you thinkpeople would say you're reliable? Have you

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ever heard someone say in front ofyour face when you're late, or you
don't show up for what you saidyou would show up, or whatever it
might be. You ever hear aloved one say, oh, well,
that's just so and so that's theway they are as if they've given in

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to the fact that you're not reliable, that you're inconsistent, and that your
word doesn't always mean anything. Ifthis is the case or if it's not
the case, it's important that youlisten because reliability, that consistency of your

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word is important. In scripture,it says not to lie. And the
reason why it says not to lieis that there's nowhere to stand when you're
lying. The world is up upsidedown. There's no balance to it,
there's no up or down, there'sno right or left. It can change,

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you see, there's no foundation whenyou lie. When you lie,
there's no basis for truth. It'salways changing, depending what whim you're on.
Similarly that if you are not areliable person, if someone doesn't think

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they can count on you, it'skind of the same thing. There's no
base, there's no balance, thereis no foundation of who you are because
you're wishy washing. It's just theway it is. That's what's going to
happen. That's who that person is. They don't show up for things they
say they're going to. Whatever itmight be. This could be at work,

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this could be a home, thiscould be in relationships. Are you
reliable? Now? In Matthew fiveit's talking about scriptures, talking about oaths,
and everybody and their sister would wouldmake an oath upon something. A

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lot of this, getting into someof the detail, a lot of this
does go back to certain pagan beliefsystems, the Greek belief systems, the
Romans, that they would make oathson all kinds of things, including their
own head. At times they wouldmake oaths on their head. So what
I say is simply let your yesbe yes, and your nome be no.

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Anything beyond this comes from the evilone. My point there in Matthew
five thirty seven was to clarify theimportance of your word and how your word
should not need any accouterment, shouldnot need an addition to if you're clear.

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I saw watching a movie the othernight. There was a line in
it where two men who happened tobe Catholic were arguing about something, and
one of the men looked up andsaid, swear to God that what you
just told me is true. Andthe character that received that line paused,

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looked him right in the eye andsaid, I said it was true,
Therefore it's true, and I won'tblaspheme the name of God to try and
make you believe me. I thoughtit was an interesting line because rather than
getting caught up in the need toadd something additional to your words to make

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you reliable, why should it beanything more than you're yes or you're no.
What could you possibly add? Well? Are there are there jokesters?
Sure, there's jokesters that I'll messwith you and that are joking around,
and ultimately they want to get areaction. They want to get a reaction

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from you. And and you mayknow that they're trying to get, you
know, pokechain and get a reactionso you'll say, oh, you know,
come on, are you lying?Is that true? Or as my
producer Neil says, to be goofyis that for true? But you're yes
yes should be yes and your noshould be no. That reliability is an

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imperative throughout Scripture. You have tofind that reliability within yourself, not over
extending yourself. You know, strangelyenough, most of the unreliability in one's

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life comes from trying to overextend yourself, saying yes to things that you shouldn't
be saying yes to because you don'tyou know, you don't have the time.
You overextend yourself looking for the highof that recognition of saying yes and
helping someone out, and so youget that emotional rush and you go,
oh gosh, I'm a good person. I'm going to help this person out.

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And then you don't have the timeto do it. You have no
business adding something to the list ofto do stuff, and so you get
overtext and you can't follow through andyou become UNRELI Knowing your limitations is a
great place to start. Knowing yourabilities, what you can do, what

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you can't do is very important.Becoming reliable has its has its benefits.
I mean, even throughout scripture,Paul speaking to Timothy reminds him what he
needs to do to propel the faith, to be strong against adversity and two

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Timothy two one and two, tobe strong, to push against those things
that are pushing him, and topass the faith along, to pass the
faith along to those in need.However, the specific request given by Paul

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to young Timothy is to find thosethat are reliable, the reliable men and
women, and to give it tothem and trust the truth to reliable men.
It says that reliability is an importantpart that Paul knew that. It

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wasn't oh, don't give it toany you know, only give it to
these people. That's not what Paul'ssaying. The truth of the Gospel should
go out to all. But he'ssaying, Hey, if you're gonna entrust
this, if you want to propelthis to the next level, you have
to give it to reliable people,people you know that are have integrity and
that are strong, and that willpass it along as well. Otherwise it

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would stop. You know, imagineimagine a postal scenario where you think you
have some mail that needs to besent, but it can only go through
human hands like a chain. Ifat any point in that chain there is
someone who is unreliable. Maybe theydon't show up to their portion of the

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chain, or they grab the mailand then sit on it for a while.
Whatever is that slows them down,that makes them unreliable, Whatever excuse
they give for being unreliable, willkeep them from propelling that message that piece

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of mail. And Paul knew that, and he makes a specific request to
young Timothy. Hey, don't wasteyour time putting everything together, struggling for
this message, only to give itto someone unreliable who won't teach it to

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someone else who doesn't have the strengththat reliability to pass it on. You
want somebody who's yes means yes andno means no. They don't swear up
and down to this. They don'tmake excuses. It's simple, it's direct,

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and it's honest. And this week, as you go out and you
interact with one another, I wantyou to think about this. I want
you to get to a place whereif you say yes to something, really
own it, and if you sayno to something, own that too,

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knowing that you're not available to doeverything. These workaholics that you hear about,
do you know that they're less efficientthan people who work their normal hours
reliability doesn't mean that you're non stop. It means that you know your load,

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the ability that you can take onthat work, and you pass on
what you can't. Are you reliable? Interestingly enough, David in Psalm five
nine is praying, talking to God, asking for guidance. This guidance,

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this prayer for guidance is to helpin righteousness, of course, praying to
God because God is righteous. AndDavid talks about his wicked enemies. It's

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interesting as David desires to go downa path of good conduct, pointing out
the things that God hates, startsto focus on certain attributes of somebody untrustworthy,
the sinners, the people that he'strying to stay away from. And

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if you read Psalm five nine,it says, there is nothing reliable in
what they say. Their inward partis destruction itself. Their throat is an
open grave. They flatter with theirtongue. He's describing the unreliable. He's

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saying, there's nothing reliable about whatthey say. There's nothing, there's no
basis for what they say or howthey say it. There's no foundation that
you can stand upon and what theysay, And isn't it interesting that That's
what David is using to describe wickedmen, the lack of reliability, the

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lack of that strength to be consistentin those things that even in this prayer,
as David calls out for his ownstrength, for his own ability to
seek righteousness, that he understands andmakes it known that the wicked at first

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start out with the lack of reliability. There's nothing reliable about what they say.
Oh my goodness, could you imaginewould you want to be around someone
that is completely unreliable in the thingsthey say? Of course not, And
I ask you today to not beone of them as well. Bambi.

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Welcome to Jesus Christ show. Hi. My question for today is that my
mom, I'm and dead like Igrew up in a Christian home and I'm
Native American also, and so likethey always had like me at church every
Sunday. And then when I gotolder, I explored, you know,

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my Native American heritage and sweat lodgeand everything like that. And the flat
leader, who was a medicine man, told me that, you know,
a lot of Christians were killed,I mean a lot of Native Americans were
killed, you know, because theywere forced into Christianity. So I'm just

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really torn between that because also mymom and dad told me that I'm going
to go to Hell if I don'tgo to church on Sunday. So I
just really am confused. But Ibelieve, you know, like I have
a spiritual like a spiritual connection withmy creator. Well, let's let's look
at a couple of things. First, were you adopted? No? No,

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So your parents are of Native Americandescent as well. Yes, okay,
so they've brought you up in ahome that they feel is best,
and they have done the research,and they've done all that, and they've
said that this is best for ourfamily. You have every right to be
curious and to explore. There obviouslyare going to be some things with Christianity

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that won't jive with the earth worshipnature of Native Americans. They don't necessarily
they won't meld well. In otherwords, I will tell you that there
are many people, regardless of howthings begin, there are many people that

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are Native Americans that have given theirlives to christ. I've had them call
this program. I remember a gentlemanthat called this program. We said that
he was really curious about Christianity,but he didn't want to. He didn't
want to drive away from the faithof his ancestors being a Native American.

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Right, me too, I don'twant it, and I understand that.
But you know the question I askedhim. I asked him how big was
his teepee? Right? And hesaid he didn't sleep in a tepee.
He sleeps in a house. Yeah, I bet you sleep in a house,
right, And I can't. Idon't hear any horse steps. So

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I'm assuming you're driving or you're somewhere. When you need to get somewhere,
you use a car. Right.So you've adapted pretty well to things around
you, right, Yes, Okay, Well, spirituality is one of those
things that people adapt to. Itdoes not change who you are one iota.
And I want you to take twomajor things with you. First of
all, what the man said inthe sweat lodge was wrong. He wants

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you to only do do that andso he doesn't want you to deal with
Christianity, and it's not a fairstatement, right. But it's also not
a fair statement for your parents tosay that you're going to go to Hell
if you don't go to church.Right. Church is an important place for
you to go, and for someonelike yourself who's searching. I think it's
mandatory. I really do you needto spend time learning in the House of

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God. The decision has to beyours on either account. You have to
say this is the direction I'm going, or this is the direction I'm going.
Your parents have already explored, Iassure you, being Native Americans,
they have explored and they're saying,this is what we feel is best for
our family, and they want youto be a part of it. You
can't blame them for that. Ofcourse they want you to be a part

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of it, but you are anindividual and you're gonna have to make the
decision on your own. Just don'tmeld them into some weird third belief.
It won't help you, right,No, Yeah, because all the time
I feel like it's so closed offbetween us because it's about the church and
like, you know, like whatwe could do. But then all of

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a sudden they could be so judgmental. That's why I was like, Mom,
you're not even practicing the church,you know, like, because you're
so judgmental. And again, well, there's there's legitimate judgment. You can
judge things, and it's okay tojudge as a Christian. What's not okay
as a Christian is to judge someoneas if you're better than they are.

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But it doesn't mean that you can'tjudge. Hey, don't don't play with
sharp objects you're going to cut yourhand, or that outfit doesn't look good
on you. Oh no, yeah, I understand that. But I mean,
like just coming because my boyfriend,he's also Native American and we have
a baby, so he never wasintroduced to the church ever, and like

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he runs for spirituality, so likethat's his connection with God. But they
judge that, like telling him,like before they even really knew him,
that he's going to how you know. And I feel that that's unfair for
some people to just automatically jump onyou and tell you sorry that we're not
going to see you in heaven becauseyou're going to hell. Bamby. You're

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their girl, and they just wantto be They just want to be with
you, and they want you tobe okay, and it makes them nervous
and even scared that someone may takeyou away to a place where they can't
connect with you anymore, and thatthey won't see their grandson and all all
all this stuff right exactly, andso the process of it is a very

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scary one and it may motivate themto lash out. This show is called
the Jesus Christ Show. I'm notI'm not going to pitch any other belief
system. I would tell you thesame thing is to get back in the
House of the Lord and redirect yourselfwith God. But that still has to
come from you. It can't beforced by anybody. It has to be

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something you decide for your for yourself, for your family, and you have
to seek that and really look atwhat the differences are and why there are
differences, and understand that there aremany in various tribes that are Native Americans
that have made a leap to believethat the creator in which they were worshiping

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all along was the creator that wastalked about in what Christians refer to as
both the Old and New Testament.Right, Things do change, which is
why you drive and don't ride ahorse. Things do change, which is
why you have a home and nota wigwam or a teepee. Things change,
You adapt, culture has to change. It doesn't mean that you're ignoring
your ancestors. It means that youare they because they grew too, and

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it's part of the process of growingand moving forward the entirety of the tribe.
That's the importance, and that youkeep things, the memories and the
understanding and basic principles, but thatyou can do those in different context,
whether you have a job, whetheryou have a different belief system, whatever
it might be. It is notsynonymous, right, Okay, thank you

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so much. You're welcome, andI pray that you find what you're looking
for there. And if your parentsever want to call the show, you
can push them our away. Okay, great, I will thank you so
much. All right, God blessyou, Bambi. That is a very
tough one when you're coming from acore culture or belief system that is inherent
in everything. It penetrates every partof the belief and yet your parents,

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your ancestors, you're specific right nextto your ancestors, are telling you to
do something that you feel is contradictoryto the heritage of your beliefs. But
beliefs grow, they do, theygo into many different directions, and that's
part of the progress or the growthof any group of people, any tribe,

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anywhere. Christianity adhered itself to Judaism, and whether you like the term
or not, it would be classifiedas a cult, a non Jewish cult.
It adhered to Judaism and continued togrow out of that and brought other
Jews with it that modified their heritage, their ancestry, an arm of it

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goes down this Christian path. Thingsdo change and you have to be willing
to adapt. Jeff, Welcome tothe Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi,
Jeff, I just said the Gospelof Judas. Okay, it's a

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bit confusing to me, and Iwas wondering if you can just clarify as
he was doing God's work or didhe actually betray or you know, I'm
just confusing to me. What what? What motivated have you read scripture?
No? In fact, I'm notreally religious at all, but it was

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interesting to me. What motivated youto read a Gnostic work like the Gospel
of Judas? What? What?What was the catalyst for that? I
don't know. I like him asa historical figure. I guess the betrayal.
The betrayal has a little sex appeal, does it right? It's yeah,

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it's got some But I was wondering, you know, if he's doing
God's work how how is he atrader? I mean, didn't he if
he wanted him to do? No? No, not at all. And
people get confused with this. Didthe crucifixion have to happen? Absolutely?
Did it have to happen that way? No, that was a choice by

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Judas to participate in that fashion.So people get confused. Everyone's going to
die, right right, Everyone dies. So if someone kills you, are
they just fulfilling what's going to happenanyways? Or are they a murderer?
Right? Right? So there's moreto it than than just the concept that

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there was a plan and that JudasJudas injected himself freely and knowingly into the
plan. But wasn't. It wasn'tlike Judas was a robot. And I
agree with you. Judas is anincredibly interesting figure in scripture. It shows
a young, kind of rebellious guywho wanted it, wanted me personally.

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It figured that as the Messiah,I was going to come and destroy Rome,
and when I didn't, that's whatstarted the rebellion. That's not to
say that he didn't feel bad aboutit, or it's not to say that
he didn't wrestle with those thoughts orwhatever. But it grew out of his
his his kind of hubris, hiskind of pride, that it had to

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go down his way. That's whatinterjected him into the situation. It wasn't
somehow that God got him in aholy headlock and said you're gonna be a
part of this plan and this ishow you're gonna do it. And when
he did it, he said,you know, God says, oh,
well, you did bad, andI know that confuses people. No,
Judas was had free will and freelychose to interject himself into a plan that

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was going to go down without him. He wasn't necessary to the plan at
all. So had he not donewhat he did, someone else, I
mean, the Romans would have wouldhave arrested me no matter what. M
yeah, yeah, okay, sothey were coming. As a matter of

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fact, his the greatest thing hedid was the kiss. He was just
saying, hey, I'm going toshorten. They were gonna find me.
It wasn't even that difficult, right. Uh. He misled them to the
importance of his partner as well.They didn't need him to say I mean,

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uh, sooner or later they wouldhave found me. It was a
matter of him interjecting himself and outof frustration because I wasn't doing the very
thing that he wanted me to do, which was to destroy realme. And
at that point he was more likea jilted lover who just said, you

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know what, if you're not goingto do it, what I what I
think the plan should be. ThatI don't care about your plan, okay.
So really, and and and asfar as the Gospel of Judas really
has so many problems with it,as far as UH confused with it,
there there is and I would andI would, you know, recommend reading

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through the the god Gospels, theMatthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
the three the three Synoptic Gospels,and then and then John to kind
of get an idea of the narrative. The real narrative is what is going
on and why the Gospel of Judasdoesn't really play a part and isn't part

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of scripture historically, but really givesyou an insight of some of those things
that are going on. And sometimesthere's parenthetical thoughts that are written into scripture
that talk about Judas a little bit. And I agree, he's a very
interesting character under the circumstances because theassumption is everybody goes wow. If I
was sitting next to Jesus, Iwould know he was Jesus. I would

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listen to Jesus, I would heareverything he had to say, and I'd
do whatever he asked. But that'snot the truth. Humans always are going
to go by their own, youknow, their own belief. That's they
question anybody in any authority. Alwaysnot necessarily a bad thing. But it
is interesting to see that it wasabout Jewish Judas being played like a puppet

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and then punished for the puppetry.It was. Yeah, it implies that
you pull him aside and said thisis how it's going to go, and
you're it almost seems like he wasa chosen one and they talk about him
being the thirteenth and it's just whetherthat's good or bad, and so yeah,
No, it's more about it's moreabout that he that God knew that

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he was going to do that,and that's different than God making him do
that. Four Knowledge is completely differentfrom forcing somebody against their will. But
I know that it sort of impliesor makes it seem that way, but
it's just not the case. Judashad every opportunity not to participate at all,

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and he chose to participate on demand.