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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson. With
you and Senator we now know a lot more about
who's behind the protests on college campuses.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We're going to do a deep dive into these anti Israel,
antisemitic protests, these Prohamas protests that are breaking out at
college campuses all over the country. We're going to go
into some of the extreme views that are being taken
by the organizers, by the radicals putting it on, by
the professors who are participating. We're going to get into
the weakness to the fecklessness of the college administrators who
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are terrified to take on these rabid anti Semites. And
we're going to follow the money. We're going to lay
out this is not simply occurring magically and organically. They
are a whole lot of dollars that are being written
to cause this chaos, this dissension, this attack on Israel,
this attack on America.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're going to break that down.
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It has been a crazy week on college campuses specifically,
and also we are now understanding a little bit more
of these protests. We understand where the money's coming from.
We understand they're working with colleges and professors. We understand
that the colleges are giving these students the leeway to
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really push the limits on free speech and to attack
Jewish students to intimidate them. They're now canceling classes. It
is shocking to see this happen on college campuses. But
make no mistake, this is all being done behind the
scenes in advance.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, that's exactly right, and you have to understand first
of all, the radicals that are putting this on This
is not ordinary, very political speech. This is not within
the mainstream of discussions. These are radicals who hate Jews,
who are bigots, who are violent, who are threatening violence,
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who are threatening so far as murder? Here I want
you to look at one of the organizers of these
Prohamas protesters at Columbia University and and and take your
own assessment of of of just kind of what what
kind of person this is.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And so be glad, be grateful that I'm not just
going out and I'm murdering Zionists. I've never murdered anyone
in my life, and.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I hope to keep it that way.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I genuinely hope to keep it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Hope to keep it that way. If you're a Jewish
student that goes to college, where that person goes to college,
I'd be terrified.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And by the way, look the phrase be glad, I'm
not just killing Zionists. Now you know what the word
zionist means. I think he means Jews exactly. That's the
word that bigots use when they want to mean Jews.
What does he want to do murder Jews? He hasn't yet,
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he hopes he doesn't. But we ought to be glad
that he's not actively murdering Jews.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And and and and this is let me.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Ask you this, and this is so important. Is is
that free speech or is that a threat?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And and by the way, he also said in that
same interview, he said, quote Zionists don't deserve to live.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Jews don't deserve to live.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yes, translation, And you know it's not like in history
there have been any any people who believe Jews don't
deserve to live. We ought to just kill all the
Jews like you literally have lefty college campuses. He ought
to get a little Hitler mustache and just you know,
start doing sighil. I mean, these leftists, they are Nazis.
And by the way, listen, I don't like in politics
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Nazi comparisons. I think they're used too often. But what
Hamas did on October seventh, the Nazis would be proud.
It was the same sort of indiscriminate mass murder directed
at Jews because they are Jews, that the world has
not seen at that scale since the Holocaust. October seventh was,
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in one day, the largest mass murder of Jews since
the Holocaust. And by the way, when you are murdering civilians,
when you're murdering the elderly, when you're murdering children, when
you're raping women and little girls, when you're beheading people.
Those are the atrocities the Nazis committed. That is what
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these pro Haamas protesters are chanting. Now you asked about,
is that a threat? Listen, if you are threatening violence
that is not protected by the constitution, if you are
threatening to kill anyone that's not protected by the constitution.
We know that the threats are being heard in perceived
because we know at Columbia, the Orthodox rabbi sent out
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an email actually a WhatsApp to the sum two hundred
and sixty Jewish students on campus saying, do not come
to campus, stay home. Why because Columbia cannot and will
not protect your safety. So the threats are real and perceived.
And by the way, look it's worth doing a little
bit of a deep dive on free speech. Does the
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First Amendment protect your right to free speech? Yes, yes,
you have a right to speak. And by the way,
that includes Nazis. There's a famous decision Skokie, Illinois, where
the Nazis wanted to march in the downtown city and
it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Supreme
Court concluded, yep, the Nazis have a right to march
under the First Amendment, and that is correct, But you
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know what they're not immune to. They're not immune number one,
to counter speech. And I think anyone has an obligation
if you see a Nazi, if you see a klansman,
or if you see a Prohamas bigot, to respond with truth,
to respond with facts, to counter the hate. That's number one.
But number two, just because the constitution allows you to
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say it, does not mean a university has to allow
it on their campus.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Second, and I'm glad you went there, is that there
doesn't seem to be any accountability on these college campuses
from the administration. If there is accountability, it's coming from
police outside.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So listen, does anybody doubt that if a student on
a campus went to the center of campus, erected across
lit the cross on fire, put on a white sheet,
and advocated for the murder of all African Americans, that
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that student would be expelled and then arrested. And let's
be clear, well, depending on burning the cross, might be arrested.
But if you do it in a public square that
actually is protected free speech, you're allowed to say it,
just like the Nazis are allowed to say, we want
to kill Jews. The Klan is allowed to say we
want to kill African Americans or Hispanics. By the way,
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let's be clear, the Klan wants to kill me too,
like they're evil, bigoted morons. The First Amendment lets you
say it, but there's no obligation. If you say things
that are horrible and hateful, a university doesn't have to
allow you to remain there. The First Amendment says Congress
shall make no law abridging in relevant part the freedom
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of speech. That's a restriction on the government. A university
is not the government. And so of course, if a
student began speaking as a clansman and arguing for killing
fellow students, you would expel that student. Likewise, and by
the way, in a normal world, if a racist who
happened to be African American began saying we should murder
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white students, you should expel that student. And in this
instance where you have students called for murdering Jews. In
my view, those who are engaged of threats of violence,
a threat of violence crosses the line to criminality, they
should be arrested, especially those who commit actual violence. They
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should be arrested. Students who engage in this should be expelled.
Professors who engage in this hateful speech should be fired. Look,
we talked at a prior, prior podcast about what appeared
to be a Columbia student holding a sign. So there
were several Jewish students behind her, waiving Israeli flags and
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American flags, and she's holding a cardboard sign that is
handwritten that says Alca Sam's next targets with an arrow
pointing to the Jewish student, to the Jewish students. And
interesting enough, this this young woman appears to be a blond,
young woman. I don't know if the internet's right, but
it's identified her as from a wealthy Georgia family, So
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not Palestinian. Just a young lasphtist who feels perfectly and
she's wrapped in a Palestinian scarf so her face is
covered up. But this young leftist feels perfectly fine, feels
perfectly normal to advocate the murder of her fellow students
because they are Jews. And she feels certain that she'll
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have impunity, that Columbia will not expel.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Her, And why would you not expect that of your student.
Let's go back to right after the attack on Israel.
You and I spent a lot of time talking about
you know, miss Gay for example, he's the president one
n M I T you had what was a Harvard
Yale that were all having these protests, and it was
very clear leadership down, Yeah, they were anti Israel and
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allowing this to play.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The leadership supports the pro hamas protesters. All right, listen
to the president of Columbia University not long after nine
to eleven.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
So it's not You'll always have individuals who will have
extreme views. But what's really troubling in the region is
that there's actually quite a broad base of society which
has some sympathy for the terrorists. Not so much because
they approve of their methods, but it's a form of
protesting against a system which is not delivering for them
on the economic or the political front.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's two months after nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
She says, this, two months after what's a form of
protests like Solarity clearity.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Flying jet airplanes under the World Trade Center, flying jet
airplanes into the Pentagon, murdering some three thousand people is
not a form of protest. That is a form of
mass murder. That is a form of terrorism. That is
a form of targeting civilians, to murder them, in many instances,
to burn them horribly alive. Not only did they die,
many of them died horrible, wretched deaths. You and I
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were both alive, and remember the images that day as
those towers that burn, We remember the people at the
top of the towers burning alive. Sounds like really a
horrific death. But there she is, is this leftist academics saying, well,
it's a form of protest. No, waiving a sign and
chanting in a public park is a form of protest.
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Murdering three thousand people is a horrific crime, and it
is terrorism, and it is evil.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
If there's any place where you would think a university
president would not say this after nine to eleven, when
you think it would be a university that's in New
York City.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You would accept our universities. Now they barely acknowledge their
American Our university leadership is Marxist. Look, as you know,
the last book I wrote is called Unwoke, How to
Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. The entire book explains that
poison you are seeing, that poison you are seeing that
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they are taught America is bad. It is imperialistic, is oppressive.
The Marxists believe there are two groups. There are oppressors
and victims. In the Marxist world, oppressors are Jews. That's
why they call them zion That's why they say the
Zionists read Jews are lucky. I'm not murdering them right now. Why,
because they're oppressors. And once you're labeled an oppressor, you
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have no rights. You should be murdered. By the way,
those Marxists also consider all Americans oppressors. So nine to
eleven planes going into the World Trade Center not a problem.
Oppressors deserve to die. And so the view of those
Marxist academics is, if you're killing oppressors, that's a good thing.
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The other group are the so called victims, and when
it comes to the Middle East, the victims of the
Palestinians and the leftist view and what Marxists advocate is
the violent revolution of the victims against the oppressors. So
when the so called victims are killing the oppressors, they're
cheering for the murder. The Marxist is happy for the murder.
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They think it is a good thing. And their view
is the only problem is there wasn't enough murder. What
these Marxists believe, what they advocate is the problem with
October seventh is it stopped at twelve hundred Jews. Yeah,
it should have been two thousand or three thousand, or
five thousand or ten thousand. And by the way, you
look at these prohamas terrorists. That's what they're promising. These
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groups chanting are saying, We'll have an October seventh every day.
We're not done with murdering twelve hundred. We want to
do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
When you look at also just how this is unfolded.
There's one other thing that there was a new standard
this week by the media that I thought was shocking.
You're seeing more people come out and saying that the
president of Columbia, for example, specifically should immediately resign. Speaker
Johnson went up to New York and talked.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
About absolutely she should, but they said you shouldn't say that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They said that's bullying from a politician. Should stay out
of it. How dare you bully the universities. That's what
I was watching on TV this week. Now, granted I
was in shockwa I'm watching Mike wilder standard.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
By the way, Columbia gets millions, if not hundreds of
millions of dollars from the federal government, from tax payer monies.
Why why are we sending money to a university, your
money that you pay with taxes. Why are we sending
it there to create an environment where terror and harassment
and hate are normalized, are welcomed, are celebrated. And by
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the way, for the some two hundred and seventy Jewish
students who've been advised stay home because you can't go safely,
let me tell you what, every one of them, they
ought to file a class action lawsuit against Columbia and
against NYU and against any of these other schools and say, look,
we paid you seventy thousand dollars in tuition, and now
you're not honoring your contract. You're not actually teaching your classes.
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Columbia's canceled their classes. They're teaching it all remotely because
they won't stand up to the radicals and the Jewish students.
There is an obligation when you pay tuition that you're
going to protect my safety. That is part of the
contractual obligation. And Columbia is on a racial matter discriminating
against Jews and saying, because we Marxist view you as suppressors,
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we're not going to protect your safety.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You're on your own.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Sorry, talk about liability for these universities, they're admitting while
trying to have it both ways. They're they're saying, well,
this is frety of speech, but you just mentioned they're
canceling graduation ceremonies. They're canceling classes, like for the rest
of the year.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For the USC canceled their graduation ceremony. I gotta say
I feel really bad. Seniors right now at USC were
seniors in high school in twenty twenty. Yeah, so they
had their graduation canceled in twenty twenty because of COVID
and a bunch of idiots, and now they're having their
college graduation canceled because of rabbit anti semitism and a
bunch of idiots.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
In fact, there was a student that mentioned this, saying,
I'm not going to get to graduate twice because of this.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Take a look, So USC just canceled our graduation. I literally.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
I have no words like this is so like it's
actually comical at this point. If you don't know the
seniors that are graduating college right now. Now are the
seniors that graduated in twenty twenty, where we didn't have
a high school graduation and a lot of us had
like drive through fake graduations or no graduation at all.
And now we are seniors about to graduate, getting ready
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for our first real graduation, and it just got canceled.
I literally just like I just can't even I'm in
the shock right now, we as a whole senior class
have never had a real graduation because of COVID first,
which we thought was like a one time thing. Like
we're the class that got screwed over. It is what
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it is, unlucky. Now USC just canceled it. And of
course we've all worked so hard to get here USC.
I'm sure you know it is not a needy school
to get into, and so everyone that goes here is
very accomplished, like had worked really hard to get in,
and now.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
They just canceled our freaking graduation.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I like what now?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
What?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Like? What now?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
They sent out an email ten minutes ago about how
they noticed pointing with they're canceling it and they're going
to have other fun events, which I don't even know
what that means. I understand that like a lot of
them going on at US right now, with like protests
and everything. I just feel like there could have been
a different way to go about this than to cancel
the entire graduation for a class that never even got
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to high school graduation either.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's almost like it's lack of institutional control from the universities.
I feel bad for this student, and they don't care
about the students wanting. The problems with the Marxists is
their ideology matters more than everything. So listen, it is
a tiny fringe that are conducting these these protests, these
anti Semitic displays, but the rest of the students get
screwed over. As she's saying, like you know, it is
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not the majority of students that are out there, but
the interest to the majority of the students. The administrators
don't care because part of the view of the modern
leftist is politics. Trump's everything.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All right, I want you to watch an other exchange
from California, this one at UCLA, and I want to
set the stage here. You've got presumably a U c
A l A student, a young Jewish man, I assume,
who is holding an Israeli flag, and and you see
a U c l a professor lose it, begins screaming
and losing her mind. Watch this exchange, and.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
I'm saying that you want to throw up the people
here with not a good result.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yes, you can't hear to throw up. I'm not what
you're doings.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But in fear, they're not fighting fear, Gona, they're trying
to protect things.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Are the meaning?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Bob?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What you gonna have to say?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You're a dreamt classic man.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You no one.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
It's flat.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's fun for you.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
It's just the actionary.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'm here to show juice.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You agree with them. Other Jewish people have been because
they recognized.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What kind of across the spin company.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Nowadays, and them gets are better getting killed.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I can ut from US terroristsmasterist.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're inciting.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's a professor telling a student that he's inciting people
by holding up an Israeli flag.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And that's the woman who's teaching our kids.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
She's a professor. She can present no argument. Later on
in that exchange, he asked her because she starts screaming
about genocide. He asked her, what is genocide? She can't say,
what are the facts of genocide? Genocide is is murdering
an entire people, eliminating an entire people. He points out,
the Palestinian population is growing. It's not like if it
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were genocide, you would see the population. You know, who
committed genocide, the Nazis when they murdered six million Jews.
That's what genocide is, is exterminating a people. By no
stretch of the imagination is Israel committing genocide. What they
are doing is killing Hamas terrorists. Now, in the process
of killing Hamas terrorists, there are some civilian deaths. Why
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are their civilian deaths because Hamas wants Palestinian civilians to die.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Why is that?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Because they use them as human shields. Human shields are
a war crime. Hamas deliberately embeds itself surrounded by Palestinian civilians.
They based their military headquarters in the basement of a hospital.
Why because if the Israelis bombed their headquarters, the result
would be you bomb the hospital and you would have
literally dead Palestinian mothers and dead Palestinian infants. And it
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makes the Israelis look like the monsters. Understand, it's the
Hamas terrorists. And by the way, Israel didn't bomb the hospital.
They ended up saying which actually Hamas knew they would
that the human shields would work, they would not be
willing to bomb the Hamas headquarters because of the innocent civilians.
Hamas stores missiles in the basements of kindergartens. They use
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Palestinian children deliberately as human shields. By the way, I've
authored number one, a resolution unanimously passed through the Senate
condemning the use of human shields as a war crime.
Hamas does that every day, and number two imposing sanctions
on anyone who uses human shields. But you know who
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hadn't imposed the sanctions is that Joe Biden. The law
I authored mandates sanctions if you use human shields, but
the Biden administration sides with Hamas, so they are sanctioning
Israeli's Joe Biden's reaction to this war to October seventh
is to sanction Jews in Israel and not to go
after Hamas. In fact, to give money to Hamas, to
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give money to Iran. That's their approach. And you look
at that professor. A professor is supposed to be someone
who can teach you. Yeah, professor's supposed to be someone
who starts from knowledge. You look at her discussion. She
doesn't know anything about Israel, she doesn't know anything about
the Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
She just screams Israel bad.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Then she shouldn't be here inciting people because you're Jewish.
Being Jewish is incitement. How dare you have it? Israeli
Flagg and he's saying, look, I'm showing Jews need not
be afraid and listen. Presumably between a professor and a student,
one would think the professor would be more mature. They're older,
they're the teacher. You expect the teacher to be able
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to teach. That crazy lady is not able to teach anything.
She is absolutely losing her mind, just screaming with rage,
and it's ignorant rage.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
She doesn't know any facts. She has just been taught
to hate.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know what, that crazy lady agrees with the organizer
at Columbia that Zionists don't deserve to live. Yeah, that
is that bigotry is part of the faculty of UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, great point. And I want to get into the
money behind this in a moment, But.
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two Patriot Center. There is money that we now know
that is behind a lot of these protests. There is
a lot of similarities. Uh, the tents match at many
of these college canvases, which is hysterical the chance.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And they're not even heiding. Yeah, they're not. I mean this,
this is organized.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
This is deliberate, uh and and there's real money behind it,
and and and if you look at it in many instances,
so so, copycat tents have been scene at Harvard, at Yale,
at Berkeley, at Ohio State, at Emery and they're organized
by branch, organized by branches of the Students for Justice
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in Palestine, SJP funded by George Soros.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Now, how much does that mean?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Well, at three colleges, the protesters are being encouraged by
paid radicals, and we now actually can follow the money.
We have some specificity. Those paid radicals are called quote
fellows of a Soros funded group called the US Campaign
for Palestinian Rights USCPR. Now, USCPR pays up to seven
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eight hundred dollars for its community based fellows and between
two eight hundred and eighty dollars and three thousand, six
hundred and sixty dollars for its campus based fellows in
return for spending.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Eight hours a week?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Can we just pause organizing camp pains led by Palestinian organizations.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I want to make sure you understand this is not
a little bit of money.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
This is big money. Eight hours a week, not forty
hours in the week. When you can make three thousand,
six hundred and sixty dollars for spending eight hours a week,
that's one day of work.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
And by the way, seventy eight hundred that's eight thousand
dollars for eight hours a week. Yeah, that's one thousand
bucks an hour. That's like bribery to students almost. That's
a big money Look, that's real money. And there's a
reason why these folks are showing up, showing up, and
and we know that the radical groups received at least
three hundred thousand dollars from Soros's Open Society Foundation since
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twenty seventeen, and it also took in three hundred and
fifty five thousand from the Rockefeller Brother's fund since twenty nineteen.
Let me stop and say something the Rockefeller Brother's fund.
Let me ask you, is there anybody around the Rockefeller
Brother's fund who's not an anti Semite, who's not a bigot,
who's not an anti American, vicious Marxist. If there is,
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get them to stop it. Let me ask you who
funds the Rockefeller brothers funds. I'm assuming the Rockefeller Brothers.
I don't know, but are there any donors that care?
Is there any employee there that's not an anti Semi.
If you work at the Rockefeller Brother's fund, unless you've
been fitted for your brown shirt recently, you ought to
resign because you're funding these attacks. You're funding these threats.
(28:25):
You know what, If you work at Soros's Open Society,
you're responsible for Jewish students being terrified to go to
campus because their lives are being threatened. Is there anybody
that holds them accountable? These people ought to be pariahs.
These people ought to be treated just as if they're
wearing KKK robes because they are.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Functionally they're funding it.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And you know what, these same leftists they're going to
the opera, they're going out in high society in New
York and they're being welcomed. This is disgusting and they
ought to be embarrassed because they're paying to destroy our collegists,
to destroy our young people, to destroy America.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Okay. I actually have a friend of.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Mine who's a very very successful tech entrepreneur, and I
was asking him, what is the deal with George Soros.
I've ever met the guy. I don't know the guy.
I don't understand his motivations. What is behind the billions
of dollars he's spending to destroy America? And this friend
(29:36):
of mine, who does know soorrows his analogy. He said,
he said, Soros is like Magneto from the X Men movies,
and if you look at Magneto, Magneto is twisted by
hate and he hates humanity. I don't know if this
is true or not. But it's an interesting theory. And
(29:58):
I can't speak to his mo I don't know what
they are, but I can speak to the results of
his motivations, to what he is in fact doing, And
he is spending billions of dollars funding people, funding left
wing das who let murderers go, let rapists go, and
the result is more murders and more rapes. Now, as
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far as I can tell, you only do that if
you want to see more Americans murdered and more Americans raped.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You want chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
You want chaos, you want suffering.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I understand that from I look at a movie like Batman.
That sounds like something the Joker wants.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I mean, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's why the Magneto analogy is not bad. It is
like a comic book villain. Normal people don't have a
rational argument. What we need to do is let more
murderers go, even though we know it will result in
more innocent people being murdered. We should do that anyway.
That is not a normal argument. That is an argument
that is driven from extreme ideology, and I think in
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all likelihood is driven by hate. And that is precisely
who is funding what's happening on these campuses right now.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Let's go back and look at the hierarchy of this,
just to put it in perspective. In the hours after
the attack on Israel, you had to call out the
United States government, the Biden administration repeatedly, and I want
you to go through that quickly in a second, but
you had to call them out for basically holding Israel
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to a standard they're not holding Hamas to which is
if Israel responds and protects itself and anyone dies that
they're somehow evil. You then have a White House that's
doubled down on that. You then have people like colam
or mar and others in the Senate and the Democratic
Party that have done the same exact thing. You then
have that trickle down to the presidents of these universities.
(31:47):
And we saw them go before Congress, and none of them,
by the way, got fired. Some of them aren't presidents anymore,
but they still got their six figure salaries.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
They're still in doctrinate kids on campus.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
None of them didn't lost their access to the universe,
which they've taken away from even some Jewish professors this week.
So then that trickles down into the base professors, which
we just played a moment ago, which then trickles down
to the students that can hate Jews, and then it
trickles down into the outside non students who are the
protesters that are there. And yet you could fix all
of this the way that we've seen in Texas this week,
(32:19):
the way we've seen it in Florida this week, where
these protesters come out in those universities in those states
and they said, we're not putting up with this crap.
So this is all being done and organized and allow
by the universities, by law enforcement, by Democrats who are
locally elected, and they could stop it all in a
matter of days, but they're saying, no, no, let's keep
going and let's keep this growing.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Look that's true, but I will say it's not even
a question of trickling down, it's really tricking up. This
started in the universities, this poison. As you know the
first chapter of my book on Woke, it is colleges
and universities the wuhan lab of the WO virus.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Can I say sathing about your book real quick? When
you wrote your book, we didn't know any of this
was going to happen. I will tell everyone watching listening,
I go buy it. I've read it, and now there's
so much that you wrote about that's happening in real time.
If you didn't get it, get it, because you did.
You spent an entire book, and I think you saw
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this is coming down the pipeline.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It explains exactly what's happening, and so many people are confused.
But I want to read something that was tweeted by
Carol Markowitz.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Now, Carol Markowitz is a columnist at the New York Post,
and she said something online that I think was really
quite powerful. She said, quote a lot of Jewish friends,
especially those who are finally awake after October seventh, say
things like, quote how is this America? Or quote it's
so scary that this jew hatred is happening everywhere. But
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it's very much not a mariaera, and it's absolutely not
happening everywhere. In South Florida, Jews wear the dinner plate
Megan David's, and no one says one word. In rural
Michigan churches put pray for Israel on the signs outside.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I'm not naive.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Obviously jew haters can and do live anywhere, but they're
only thriving, open, proud in blue areas. And I'm not
going to let people ignore that a lot of liberal
Jews are trying to parse things right now. They imagine
that they are still of the left, but just on
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this one tiny little thing, their right to exist, they disagree. No,
my friends, it's a house of cards and you're pulling
the one from the very bottom. The whole left ideology
is corrupt and you're going to have to face it.
You can't spread the blame around. The hatred, the rage,
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the violence, the dehumanization is all coming from one side.
Yours A second example, it is an op ed that
was written in JNS. It was written by Jonathan Berniski.
It's entitled Jewish Democrats Wake Up, and it says at
the outset quote, the anti Semitic right is a fringe phenomenon,
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while the anti Semitic left is mainstream, powerful and shaping
America's future. And I'm just going to read the beginning
of this because it's really quite powerful.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
This is addressed to you, my fellow Jews, since most
of you are Democrats. You've heard from liberal colleagues that
Tucker Carlson, whose show you've never watched has been flirting
with anti Semites. You've been told by liberal friends that
Candice Owens, whose show you've never watched, has been picking
(35:59):
fights with Ben Shapiro, whose show you've never watched. From
CNN and MSNBC. You know that a pack of guys
with citronale tiki torches marched through Charlottesville while shouting the
Jews will not replace us. And that's why you've convinced
yourself that there are far more anti Semites on the
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right than there are on the left. I wish to
pose several questions. How many of the thousands of individuals
who gathered in Times Square on October eighth, twenty twenty
three and chanted Resistance is Justified and Glory to our
Martyrs are registered Republican voters and planned to cast their
ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the individuals who
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barricaded Jewish students inside Cooper Union's library on October twenty fifth,
twenty twenty three, pounded on the doors and carried signs
that read Zionism, hands off our universities are registered Republicans
and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How
many of the thousands of individuals who rallied in Manhattan
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on December twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, and carried banners
emblazoned with the words quote by any means necessary and
quote resistance until Return. Are registered Republicans and planned to
cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the
thousands on thousands of individuals who assembled at Columbia University
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on February second and shouted Globalized the Intifada and death
to the Zionist State are registered Republican voters and planned
to cast ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the
individuals who amassed in Dearborn, Michigan are on April fifth
and yelled death to America and death to Israel are
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registered Republicans and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump.
How many of the thousands of individuals who blocked traffic
on the Golden Gate Bridge and other cities on April
fifteenth and carried the flag of Hesbela are registered Republicans
and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How
many of the hundreds of thousands of individuals who have
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participated in the thousands of anti Zionists and Prohamas protests
across the country since October seventh are registered Republicans and
planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. And then
he answers it. He said, the answer to every question
posed above is close to zero, if not none. He
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goes on, Yet, we've been told by reporters and commentators
at August publications and news networks, leaders of esteem nonprofits,
academics at prestigious colleges and universities, and career civil servants
at major three letter federal government agencies that anti Semitism
is solely a problem of the right. Yes, fringe right
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wing anti Semites are a problem. They should be considered
a threat, but they are on the fringe. And because
these fringe elements continue to be the near exclusive target
of the less so called quote quote fight against anti Semitism,
it's more imparent than ever that our elites are purposely
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engaged in a partisan game. This next paragraph is the
most important paragraph in the op ed. Right wing anti
Semites are kouks and grifters. Left wing anti Semites are
college professors, newspaper editors, Hollywood stars, a growing number of
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Democratic members of Congress, and quite a few Biden administration officials.
They have immense cultural and political influence and they are
decisively shaping the future of America. I don't know how
you can dispute one word that written there. And that
is a point that explains why these universities are sick,
(40:06):
why these college students are being fed poison, why the
administrators are afraid to stand up to the bigoted lies,
why Democrat politicians are celebrating the bigoted lies. AOC and
ilhanum Omar are going and cheering on the anti Semites,
and why even so called mainstream Democrat politicians like Joe
(40:32):
Biden stand happily by while the squad cheers on the
anti Semites.
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want to ask you about what's happening on college campuses.
Is we talked about following the money and we now
know who's behind it. Isn't that they're an obligation now
for people that went to these universities to stand up
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and say, not only do we think at Columbia the
president should resign, but you're not getting another dime for
me until we see significant changes. You look at Robert Kraft,
the Patriots owner. He really came out and did some interviews.
He didn't just stop the flow of money and their
buildings and named after him at Columbia, he has been
a massive donor. He said they're not getting another dime
(43:25):
of my money. And he didn't just say it, he
went out and explained it and challenged others to do
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We need people to do that. Yes, all over the
country in a big way.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Absolutely yes. And you look at Robert Kraft with Columbia.
You look at Bill Ackman with Harvard. Bill Ackman played
a pivotal role in Claudine Gay Stepping Down.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You look at Mark.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Rowan with Penn, Mark played a pivotal role. These are
all very, very successful leaders in business who've been massive, massive,
multimillion dollar donors to these universities, who've taken leading roles
speaking out and saying what is happening is disgraceful. The
anti Semitism, the radicalism that you are allowing, the DEI oppression.
(44:08):
And by the way, this anti semitism is the fruit
of DEI. The introvers they don't know what de I
stands for, explain that it is diversity, equity and inclusion,
and it is the vehicle within universities where they teach
this nonsense. They teach this racism, They teach that Jews
are oppressors and Palestinians are victims. Look, here's an illustration
(44:29):
and let's play this as our final clip. Ilhan Omar
talking about the protest.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Give a listen, how do.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
You think this will translate to the Jewish students who
are facing anti semitism here on capitalists?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
So I actually met a lot of Jewish students that.
Speaker 8 (44:42):
Are in the encampmets, and I think it is really
unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that all
Jewish kids should be kept safe and that we should
not have to tolerate anti Semitism or bigotry for all
Jewish students. Whether they are progenocide or anti genocide.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
What utter garbage.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Whether they are pro genocide or anti genocide. Understand what
she's saying. If you're not protesting in favor of Hamas,
then you are a pro genocide Jew. Now, Israel is
not remotely committing genocide. In fact, they go to extraordinary
lengths to avoid civilian casualties. They are killing terrorists. Do
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you know who is trying to commit genocide?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Hamas?
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Hamas when they entered on October seventh, they were only
murdering Jews. They were looking for Jews. They were murdering
them because they are Jews. That is genocide. When you
were trying to wipe out a people.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
That market attacks the other day, they weren't targeting anyone building.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
They were just targeting any part of Israel, any Jew.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Like we started off with a Columbia organizer, he wants
to kill Zionis, by which he means Jews. She's saying,
and this is where the left it is Orwellian, they
turn things upside down. You know who is pro genocide Hamas?
The same Hamas she supports, the same Hamas the protesters support.
You know who is anti genocide Israel? Israel has tried
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to save the lives of civilians. Hamas is also ironically
pro Palestinian genocide. Why because they put Palestinian civilians in
harm's way and they want them to die because they
know the useful idiots will use the deaths of those
Palestinian civilians to attack Israel. That is the sad reality
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of cultural Marxism. This is the fruits of this poison
that has taken over our institutions.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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you and Senator we now know a lot more about
who's behind the protests on college campuses.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We're going to do a deep dive into these anti Israel,
antisemitic protests, these Prohamas protests that are breaking out at
college campuses all over the country. We're going to go
into some of the extreme views that are being taken
by the organizers, by the radicals putting it on, by
the professors who are participating. We're going to get into
the weakness to the fecklessness of the college administrators who
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are terrified to take on these rabid anti Semites. And
we're going to follow the money. We're going to lay
out this is not simply occurring magically and organically. They
are a whole lot of dollars that are being written
to cause this chaos, this dissension, this attack on Israel,
this attack on America.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're going to break that down.
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It has been a crazy week on college campuses specifically,
and also we are now understanding a little bit more
of these protests. We understand where the money's coming from.
We understand they're working with colleges and professors. We understand
that the colleges are giving these students the leeway to
(02:37):
really push the limits on free speech and to attack
Jewish students to intimidate them. They're now canceling classes. It
is shocking to see this happen on college campuses. But
make no mistake, this is all being done behind the
scenes in advance.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, that's exactly right, and you have to understand first
of all, the radicals that are putting this on This
is not ordinary, very political speech. This is not within
the mainstream of discussions. These are radicals who hate Jews,
who are bigots, who are violent, who are threatening violence,
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who are threatening so far as murder? Here I want
you to look at one of the organizers of these
Prohamas protesters at Columbia University and and and take your
own assessment of of of just kind of what what
kind of person this is.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And so be glad, be grateful that I'm not just
going out and I'm murdering Zionists. I've never murdered anyone
in my life, and.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I hope to keep it that way.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I genuinely hope to keep it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Hope to keep it that way. If you're a Jewish
student that goes to college, where that person goes to college,
I'd be terrified.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And by the way, look the phrase be glad, I'm
not just killing Zionists. Now you know what the word
zionist means. I think he means Jews exactly. That's the
word that bigots use when they want to mean Jews.
What does he want to do murder Jews? He hasn't yet,
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he hopes he doesn't. But we ought to be glad
that he's not actively murdering Jews.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And and and and this is let me.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Ask you this, and this is so important. Is is
that free speech or is that a threat?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And and by the way, he also said in that
same interview, he said, quote Zionists don't deserve to live.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Jews don't deserve to live.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yes, translation, And you know it's not like in history
there have been any any people who believe Jews don't
deserve to live. We ought to just kill all the
Jews like you literally have lefty college campuses. He ought
to get a little Hitler mustache and just you know,
start doing sighil. I mean, these leftists, they are Nazis.
And by the way, listen, I don't like in politics
(05:02):
Nazi comparisons. I think they're used too often. But what
Hamas did on October seventh, the Nazis would be proud.
It was the same sort of indiscriminate mass murder directed
at Jews because they are Jews, that the world has
not seen at that scale since the Holocaust. October seventh was,
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in one day, the largest mass murder of Jews since
the Holocaust. And by the way, when you are murdering civilians,
when you're murdering the elderly, when you're murdering children, when
you're raping women and little girls, when you're beheading people.
Those are the atrocities the Nazis committed. That is what
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these pro Haamas protesters are chanting. Now you asked about,
is that a threat? Listen, if you are threatening violence
that is not protected by the constitution, if you are
threatening to kill anyone that's not protected by the constitution.
We know that the threats are being heard in perceived
because we know at Columbia, the Orthodox rabbi sent out
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an email actually a WhatsApp to the sum two hundred
and sixty Jewish students on campus saying, do not come
to campus, stay home. Why because Columbia cannot and will
not protect your safety. So the threats are real and perceived.
And by the way, look it's worth doing a little
bit of a deep dive on free speech. Does the
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First Amendment protect your right to free speech? Yes, yes,
you have a right to speak. And by the way,
that includes Nazis. There's a famous decision Skokie, Illinois, where
the Nazis wanted to march in the downtown city and
it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Supreme
Court concluded, yep, the Nazis have a right to march
under the First Amendment, and that is correct, But you
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know what they're not immune to. They're not immune number one,
to counter speech. And I think anyone has an obligation
if you see a Nazi, if you see a klansman,
or if you see a Prohamas bigot, to respond with truth,
to respond with facts, to counter the hate. That's number one.
But number two, just because the constitution allows you to
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say it, does not mean a university has to allow
it on their campus.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Second, and I'm glad you went there, is that there
doesn't seem to be any accountability on these college campuses
from the administration. If there is accountability, it's coming from
police outside.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So listen, does anybody doubt that if a student on
a campus went to the center of campus, erected across
lit the cross on fire, put on a white sheet,
and advocated for the murder of all African Americans, that
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that student would be expelled and then arrested. And let's
be clear, well, depending on burning the cross, might be arrested.
But if you do it in a public square that
actually is protected free speech, you're allowed to say it,
just like the Nazis are allowed to say, we want
to kill Jews. The Klan is allowed to say we
want to kill African Americans or Hispanics. By the way,
(08:08):
let's be clear, the Klan wants to kill me too,
like they're evil, bigoted morons. The First Amendment lets you
say it, but there's no obligation. If you say things
that are horrible and hateful, a university doesn't have to
allow you to remain there. The First Amendment says Congress
shall make no law abridging in relevant part the freedom
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of speech. That's a restriction on the government. A university
is not the government. And so of course, if a
student began speaking as a clansman and arguing for killing
fellow students, you would expel that student. Likewise, and by
the way, in a normal world, if a racist who
happened to be African American began saying we should murder
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white students, you should expel that student. And in this
instance where you have students called for murdering Jews. In
my view, those who are engaged of threats of violence,
a threat of violence crosses the line to criminality, they
should be arrested, especially those who commit actual violence. They
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should be arrested. Students who engage in this should be expelled.
Professors who engage in this hateful speech should be fired. Look,
we talked at a prior, prior podcast about what appeared
to be a Columbia student holding a sign. So there
were several Jewish students behind her, waiving Israeli flags and
(09:37):
American flags, and she's holding a cardboard sign that is
handwritten that says Alca Sam's next targets with an arrow
pointing to the Jewish student, to the Jewish students. And
interesting enough, this this young woman appears to be a blond,
young woman. I don't know if the internet's right, but
it's identified her as from a wealthy Georgia family, So
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not Palestinian. Just a young lasphtist who feels perfectly and
she's wrapped in a Palestinian scarf so her face is
covered up. But this young leftist feels perfectly fine, feels
perfectly normal to advocate the murder of her fellow students
because they are Jews. And she feels certain that she'll
(10:23):
have impunity, that Columbia will not expel.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Her, And why would you not expect that of your student.
Let's go back to right after the attack on Israel.
You and I spent a lot of time talking about
you know, miss Gay for example, he's the president one
n M I T you had what was a Harvard
Yale that were all having these protests, and it was
very clear leadership down, Yeah, they were anti Israel and
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allowing this to play.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The leadership supports the pro hamas protesters. All right, listen
to the president of Columbia University not long after nine
to eleven.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
So it's not You'll always have individuals who will have
extreme views. But what's really troubling in the region is
that there's actually quite a broad base of society which
has some sympathy for the terrorists. Not so much because
they approve of their methods, but it's a form of
protesting against a system which is not delivering for them
on the economic or the political front.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's two months after nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
She says, this, two months after what's a form of
protests like Solarity clearity.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Flying jet airplanes under the World Trade Center, flying jet
airplanes into the Pentagon, murdering some three thousand people is
not a form of protest. That is a form of
mass murder. That is a form of terrorism. That is
a form of targeting civilians, to murder them, in many instances,
to burn them horribly alive. Not only did they die,
many of them died horrible, wretched deaths. You and I
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were both alive, and remember the images that day as
those towers that burn, We remember the people at the
top of the towers burning alive. Sounds like really a
horrific death. But there she is, is this leftist academics saying, well,
it's a form of protest. No, waiving a sign and
chanting in a public park is a form of protest.
(12:09):
Murdering three thousand people is a horrific crime, and it
is terrorism, and it is evil.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
If there's any place where you would think a university
president would not say this after nine to eleven, when
you think it would be a university that's in New
York City.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You would accept our universities. Now they barely acknowledge their
American Our university leadership is Marxist. Look, as you know,
the last book I wrote is called Unwoke, How to
Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. The entire book explains that
poison you are seeing, that poison you are seeing that
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they are taught America is bad. It is imperialistic, is oppressive.
The Marxists believe there are two groups. There are oppressors
and victims. In the Marxist world, oppressors are Jews. That's
why they call them zion That's why they say the
Zionists read Jews are lucky. I'm not murdering them right now. Why,
because they're oppressors. And once you're labeled an oppressor, you
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have no rights. You should be murdered. By the way,
those Marxists also consider all Americans oppressors. So nine to
eleven planes going into the World Trade Center not a problem.
Oppressors deserve to die. And so the view of those
Marxist academics is, if you're killing oppressors, that's a good thing.
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The other group are the so called victims, and when
it comes to the Middle East, the victims of the
Palestinians and the leftist view and what Marxists advocate is
the violent revolution of the victims against the oppressors. So
when the so called victims are killing the oppressors, they're
cheering for the murder. The Marxist is happy for the murder.
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They think it is a good thing. And their view
is the only problem is there wasn't enough murder. What
these Marxists believe, what they advocate is the problem with
October seventh is it stopped at twelve hundred Jews. Yeah,
it should have been two thousand or three thousand, or
five thousand or ten thousand. And by the way, you
look at these prohamas terrorists. That's what they're promising. These
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groups chanting are saying, We'll have an October seventh every day.
We're not done with murdering twelve hundred. We want to
do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
When you look at also just how this is unfolded.
There's one other thing that there was a new standard
this week by the media that I thought was shocking.
You're seeing more people come out and saying that the
president of Columbia, for example, specifically should immediately resign. Speaker
Johnson went up to New York and talked.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
About absolutely she should, but they said you shouldn't say that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They said that's bullying from a politician. Should stay out
of it. How dare you bully the universities. That's what
I was watching on TV this week. Now, granted I
was in shockwa I'm watching Mike wilder standard.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
By the way, Columbia gets millions, if not hundreds of
millions of dollars from the federal government, from tax payer monies.
Why why are we sending money to a university, your
money that you pay with taxes. Why are we sending
it there to create an environment where terror and harassment
and hate are normalized, are welcomed, are celebrated. And by
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the way, for the some two hundred and seventy Jewish
students who've been advised stay home because you can't go safely,
let me tell you what, every one of them, they
ought to file a class action lawsuit against Columbia and
against NYU and against any of these other schools and say, look,
we paid you seventy thousand dollars in tuition, and now
you're not honoring your contract. You're not actually teaching your classes.
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Columbia's canceled their classes. They're teaching it all remotely because
they won't stand up to the radicals and the Jewish students.
There is an obligation when you pay tuition that you're
going to protect my safety. That is part of the
contractual obligation. And Columbia is on a racial matter discriminating
against Jews and saying, because we Marxist view you as suppressors,
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we're not going to protect your safety.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You're on your own.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Sorry, talk about liability for these universities, they're admitting while
trying to have it both ways. They're they're saying, well,
this is frety of speech, but you just mentioned they're
canceling graduation ceremonies. They're canceling classes, like for the rest
of the year.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For the USC canceled their graduation ceremony. I gotta say
I feel really bad. Seniors right now at USC were
seniors in high school in twenty twenty. Yeah, so they
had their graduation canceled in twenty twenty because of COVID
and a bunch of idiots, and now they're having their
college graduation canceled because of rabbit anti semitism and a
bunch of idiots.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
In fact, there was a student that mentioned this, saying,
I'm not going to get to graduate twice because of this.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Take a look, So USC just canceled our graduation. I literally.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
I have no words like this is so like it's
actually comical at this point. If you don't know the
seniors that are graduating college right now. Now are the
seniors that graduated in twenty twenty, where we didn't have
a high school graduation and a lot of us had
like drive through fake graduations or no graduation at all.
And now we are seniors about to graduate, getting ready
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for our first real graduation, and it just got canceled.
I literally just like I just can't even I'm in
the shock right now, we as a whole senior class
have never had a real graduation because of COVID first,
which we thought was like a one time thing. Like
we're the class that got screwed over. It is what
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it is, unlucky. Now USC just canceled it. And of
course we've all worked so hard to get here USC.
I'm sure you know it is not a needy school
to get into, and so everyone that goes here is
very accomplished, like had worked really hard to get in,
and now.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
They just canceled our freaking graduation.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I like what now?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
What?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Like? What now?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
They sent out an email ten minutes ago about how
they noticed pointing with they're canceling it and they're going
to have other fun events, which I don't even know
what that means. I understand that like a lot of
them going on at US right now, with like protests
and everything. I just feel like there could have been
a different way to go about this than to cancel
the entire graduation for a class that never even got
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to high school graduation either.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's almost like it's lack of institutional control from the universities.
I feel bad for this student, and they don't care
about the students wanting. The problems with the Marxists is
their ideology matters more than everything. So listen, it is
a tiny fringe that are conducting these these protests, these
anti Semitic displays, but the rest of the students get
screwed over. As she's saying, like you know, it is
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not the majority of students that are out there, but
the interest to the majority of the students. The administrators
don't care because part of the view of the modern
leftist is politics. Trump's everything.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All right, I want you to watch an other exchange
from California, this one at UCLA, and I want to
set the stage here. You've got presumably a U c
A l A student, a young Jewish man, I assume,
who is holding an Israeli flag, and and you see
a U c l a professor lose it, begins screaming
and losing her mind. Watch this exchange, and.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
I'm saying that you want to throw up the people
here with not a good result.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yes, you can't hear to throw up. I'm not what
you're doings.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But in fear, they're not fighting fear, Gona, they're trying
to protect things.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Are the meaning?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Bob?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What you gonna have to say?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You're a dreamt classic man.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You no one.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
It's flat.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's fun for you.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
It's just the actionary.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'm here to show juice.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You agree with them. Other Jewish people have been because
they recognized.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What kind of across the spin company.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Nowadays, and them gets are better getting killed.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I can ut from US terroristsmasterist.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're inciting.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's a professor telling a student that he's inciting people
by holding up an Israeli flag.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And that's the woman who's teaching our kids.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
She's a professor. She can present no argument. Later on
in that exchange, he asked her because she starts screaming
about genocide. He asked her, what is genocide? She can't say,
what are the facts of genocide? Genocide is is murdering
an entire people, eliminating an entire people. He points out,
the Palestinian population is growing. It's not like if it
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were genocide, you would see the population. You know, who
committed genocide, the Nazis when they murdered six million Jews.
That's what genocide is, is exterminating a people. By no
stretch of the imagination is Israel committing genocide. What they
are doing is killing Hamas terrorists. Now, in the process
of killing Hamas terrorists, there are some civilian deaths. Why
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are their civilian deaths because Hamas wants Palestinian civilians to die.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Why is that?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Because they use them as human shields. Human shields are
a war crime. Hamas deliberately embeds itself surrounded by Palestinian civilians.
They based their military headquarters in the basement of a hospital.
Why because if the Israelis bombed their headquarters, the result
would be you bomb the hospital and you would have
literally dead Palestinian mothers and dead Palestinian infants. And it
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makes the Israelis look like the monsters. Understand, it's the
Hamas terrorists. And by the way, Israel didn't bomb the hospital.
They ended up saying which actually Hamas knew they would
that the human shields would work, they would not be
willing to bomb the Hamas headquarters because of the innocent civilians.
Hamas stores missiles in the basements of kindergartens. They use
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Palestinian children deliberately as human shields. By the way, I've
authored number one, a resolution unanimously passed through the Senate
condemning the use of human shields as a war crime.
Hamas does that every day, and number two imposing sanctions
on anyone who uses human shields. But you know who
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hadn't imposed the sanctions is that Joe Biden. The law
I authored mandates sanctions if you use human shields, but
the Biden administration sides with Hamas, so they are sanctioning
Israeli's Joe Biden's reaction to this war to October seventh
is to sanction Jews in Israel and not to go
after Hamas. In fact, to give money to Hamas, to
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give money to Iran. That's their approach. And you look
at that professor. A professor is supposed to be someone
who can teach you. Yeah, professor's supposed to be someone
who starts from knowledge. You look at her discussion. She
doesn't know anything about Israel, she doesn't know anything about
the Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
She just screams Israel bad.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Then she shouldn't be here inciting people because you're Jewish.
Being Jewish is incitement. How dare you have it? Israeli
Flagg and he's saying, look, I'm showing Jews need not
be afraid and listen. Presumably between a professor and a student,
one would think the professor would be more mature. They're older,
they're the teacher. You expect the teacher to be able
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to teach. That crazy lady is not able to teach anything.
She is absolutely losing her mind, just screaming with rage,
and it's ignorant rage.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
She doesn't know any facts. She has just been taught
to hate.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know what, that crazy lady agrees with the organizer
at Columbia that Zionists don't deserve to live. Yeah, that
is that bigotry is part of the faculty of UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, great point. And I want to get into the
money behind this in a moment, But.
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two Patriot Center. There is money that we now know
that is behind a lot of these protests. There is
a lot of similarities. Uh, the tents match at many
of these college canvases, which is hysterical the chance.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And they're not even heiding. Yeah, they're not. I mean this,
this is organized.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
This is deliberate, uh and and there's real money behind it,
and and and if you look at it in many instances,
so so, copycat tents have been scene at Harvard, at Yale,
at Berkeley, at Ohio State, at Emery and they're organized
by branch, organized by branches of the Students for Justice
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in Palestine, SJP funded by George Soros.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Now, how much does that mean?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Well, at three colleges, the protesters are being encouraged by
paid radicals, and we now actually can follow the money.
We have some specificity. Those paid radicals are called quote
fellows of a Soros funded group called the US Campaign
for Palestinian Rights USCPR. Now, USCPR pays up to seven
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eight hundred dollars for its community based fellows and between
two eight hundred and eighty dollars and three thousand, six
hundred and sixty dollars for its campus based fellows in
return for spending.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Eight hours a week?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Can we just pause organizing camp pains led by Palestinian organizations.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I want to make sure you understand this is not
a little bit of money.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
This is big money. Eight hours a week, not forty
hours in the week. When you can make three thousand,
six hundred and sixty dollars for spending eight hours a week,
that's one day of work.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
And by the way, seventy eight hundred that's eight thousand
dollars for eight hours a week. Yeah, that's one thousand
bucks an hour. That's like bribery to students almost. That's
a big money Look, that's real money. And there's a
reason why these folks are showing up, showing up, and
and we know that the radical groups received at least
three hundred thousand dollars from Soros's Open Society Foundation since
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twenty seventeen, and it also took in three hundred and
fifty five thousand from the Rockefeller Brother's fund since twenty nineteen.
Let me stop and say something the Rockefeller Brother's fund.
Let me ask you, is there anybody around the Rockefeller
Brother's fund who's not an anti Semite, who's not a bigot,
who's not an anti American, vicious Marxist. If there is,
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get them to stop it. Let me ask you who
funds the Rockefeller brothers funds. I'm assuming the Rockefeller Brothers.
I don't know, but are there any donors that care?
Is there any employee there that's not an anti Semi.
If you work at the Rockefeller Brother's fund, unless you've
been fitted for your brown shirt recently, you ought to
resign because you're funding these attacks. You're funding these threats.
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You know what, If you work at Soros's Open Society,
you're responsible for Jewish students being terrified to go to
campus because their lives are being threatened. Is there anybody
that holds them accountable? These people ought to be pariahs.
These people ought to be treated just as if they're
wearing KKK robes because they are.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Functionally they're funding it.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And you know what, these same leftists they're going to
the opera, they're going out in high society in New
York and they're being welcomed. This is disgusting and they
ought to be embarrassed because they're paying to destroy our collegists,
to destroy our young people, to destroy America.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Okay. I actually have a friend of.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Mine who's a very very successful tech entrepreneur, and I
was asking him, what is the deal with George Soros.
I've ever met the guy. I don't know the guy.
I don't understand his motivations. What is behind the billions
of dollars he's spending to destroy America? And this friend
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of mine, who does know soorrows his analogy. He said,
he said, Soros is like Magneto from the X Men movies,
and if you look at Magneto, Magneto is twisted by
hate and he hates humanity. I don't know if this
is true or not. But it's an interesting theory. And
(29:58):
I can't speak to his mo I don't know what
they are, but I can speak to the results of
his motivations, to what he is in fact doing, And
he is spending billions of dollars funding people, funding left
wing das who let murderers go, let rapists go, and
the result is more murders and more rapes. Now, as
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far as I can tell, you only do that if
you want to see more Americans murdered and more Americans raped.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You want chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
You want chaos, you want suffering.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I understand that from I look at a movie like Batman.
That sounds like something the Joker wants.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I mean, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's why the Magneto analogy is not bad. It is
like a comic book villain. Normal people don't have a
rational argument. What we need to do is let more
murderers go, even though we know it will result in
more innocent people being murdered. We should do that anyway.
That is not a normal argument. That is an argument
that is driven from extreme ideology, and I think in
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all likelihood is driven by hate. And that is precisely
who is funding what's happening on these campuses right now.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Let's go back and look at the hierarchy of this,
just to put it in perspective. In the hours after
the attack on Israel, you had to call out the
United States government, the Biden administration repeatedly, and I want
you to go through that quickly in a second, but
you had to call them out for basically holding Israel
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to a standard they're not holding Hamas to which is
if Israel responds and protects itself and anyone dies that
they're somehow evil. You then have a White House that's
doubled down on that. You then have people like colam
or mar and others in the Senate and the Democratic
Party that have done the same exact thing. You then
have that trickle down to the presidents of these universities.
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And we saw them go before Congress, and none of them,
by the way, got fired. Some of them aren't presidents anymore,
but they still got their six figure salaries.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
They're still in doctrinate kids on campus.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
None of them didn't lost their access to the universe,
which they've taken away from even some Jewish professors this week.
So then that trickles down into the base professors, which
we just played a moment ago, which then trickles down
to the students that can hate Jews, and then it
trickles down into the outside non students who are the
protesters that are there. And yet you could fix all
of this the way that we've seen in Texas this week,
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the way we've seen it in Florida this week, where
these protesters come out in those universities in those states
and they said, we're not putting up with this crap.
So this is all being done and organized and allow
by the universities, by law enforcement, by Democrats who are
locally elected, and they could stop it all in a
matter of days, but they're saying, no, no, let's keep
going and let's keep this growing.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Look that's true, but I will say it's not even
a question of trickling down, it's really tricking up. This
started in the universities, this poison. As you know the
first chapter of my book on Woke, it is colleges
and universities the wuhan lab of the WO virus.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Can I say sathing about your book real quick? When
you wrote your book, we didn't know any of this
was going to happen. I will tell everyone watching listening,
I go buy it. I've read it, and now there's
so much that you wrote about that's happening in real time.
If you didn't get it, get it, because you did.
You spent an entire book, and I think you saw
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this is coming down the pipeline.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It explains exactly what's happening, and so many people are confused.
But I want to read something that was tweeted by
Carol Markowitz.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Now, Carol Markowitz is a columnist at the New York Post,
and she said something online that I think was really
quite powerful. She said, quote a lot of Jewish friends,
especially those who are finally awake after October seventh, say
things like, quote how is this America? Or quote it's
so scary that this jew hatred is happening everywhere. But
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it's very much not a mariaera, and it's absolutely not
happening everywhere. In South Florida, Jews wear the dinner plate
Megan David's, and no one says one word. In rural
Michigan churches put pray for Israel on the signs outside.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I'm not naive.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Obviously jew haters can and do live anywhere, but they're
only thriving, open, proud in blue areas. And I'm not
going to let people ignore that a lot of liberal
Jews are trying to parse things right now. They imagine
that they are still of the left, but just on
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this one tiny little thing, their right to exist, they disagree. No,
my friends, it's a house of cards and you're pulling
the one from the very bottom. The whole left ideology
is corrupt and you're going to have to face it.
You can't spread the blame around. The hatred, the rage,
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the violence, the dehumanization is all coming from one side.
Yours A second example, it is an op ed that
was written in JNS. It was written by Jonathan Berniski.
It's entitled Jewish Democrats Wake Up, and it says at
the outset quote, the anti Semitic right is a fringe phenomenon,
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while the anti Semitic left is mainstream, powerful and shaping
America's future. And I'm just going to read the beginning
of this because it's really quite powerful.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
This is addressed to you, my fellow Jews, since most
of you are Democrats. You've heard from liberal colleagues that
Tucker Carlson, whose show you've never watched has been flirting
with anti Semites. You've been told by liberal friends that
Candice Owens, whose show you've never watched, has been picking
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fights with Ben Shapiro, whose show you've never watched. From
CNN and MSNBC. You know that a pack of guys
with citronale tiki torches marched through Charlottesville while shouting the
Jews will not replace us. And that's why you've convinced
yourself that there are far more anti Semites on the
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right than there are on the left. I wish to
pose several questions. How many of the thousands of individuals
who gathered in Times Square on October eighth, twenty twenty
three and chanted Resistance is Justified and Glory to our
Martyrs are registered Republican voters and planned to cast their
ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the individuals who
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barricaded Jewish students inside Cooper Union's library on October twenty fifth,
twenty twenty three, pounded on the doors and carried signs
that read Zionism, hands off our universities are registered Republicans
and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How
many of the thousands of individuals who rallied in Manhattan
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on December twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, and carried banners
emblazoned with the words quote by any means necessary and
quote resistance until Return. Are registered Republicans and planned to
cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the
thousands on thousands of individuals who assembled at Columbia University
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on February second and shouted Globalized the Intifada and death
to the Zionist State are registered Republican voters and planned
to cast ballots for Donald Trump. How many of the
individuals who amassed in Dearborn, Michigan are on April fifth
and yelled death to America and death to Israel are
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registered Republicans and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump.
How many of the thousands of individuals who blocked traffic
on the Golden Gate Bridge and other cities on April
fifteenth and carried the flag of Hesbela are registered Republicans
and planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. How
many of the hundreds of thousands of individuals who have
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participated in the thousands of anti Zionists and Prohamas protests
across the country since October seventh are registered Republicans and
planned to cast their ballots for Donald Trump. And then
he answers it. He said, the answer to every question
posed above is close to zero, if not none. He
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goes on, Yet, we've been told by reporters and commentators
at August publications and news networks, leaders of esteem nonprofits,
academics at prestigious colleges and universities, and career civil servants
at major three letter federal government agencies that anti Semitism
is solely a problem of the right. Yes, fringe right
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wing anti Semites are a problem. They should be considered
a threat, but they are on the fringe. And because
these fringe elements continue to be the near exclusive target
of the less so called quote quote fight against anti Semitism,
it's more imparent than ever that our elites are purposely
(39:19):
engaged in a partisan game. This next paragraph is the
most important paragraph in the op ed. Right wing anti
Semites are kouks and grifters. Left wing anti Semites are
college professors, newspaper editors, Hollywood stars, a growing number of
(39:42):
Democratic members of Congress, and quite a few Biden administration officials.
They have immense cultural and political influence and they are
decisively shaping the future of America. I don't know how
you can dispute one word that written there. And that
is a point that explains why these universities are sick,
(40:06):
why these college students are being fed poison, why the
administrators are afraid to stand up to the bigoted lies,
why Democrat politicians are celebrating the bigoted lies. AOC and
ilhanum Omar are going and cheering on the anti Semites,
and why even so called mainstream Democrat politicians like Joe
(40:32):
Biden stand happily by while the squad cheers on the
anti Semites.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
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want to ask you about what's happening on college campuses.
Is we talked about following the money and we now
know who's behind it. Isn't that they're an obligation now
for people that went to these universities to stand up
(43:03):
and say, not only do we think at Columbia the
president should resign, but you're not getting another dime for
me until we see significant changes. You look at Robert Kraft,
the Patriots owner. He really came out and did some interviews.
He didn't just stop the flow of money and their
buildings and named after him at Columbia, he has been
a massive donor. He said they're not getting another dime
(43:25):
of my money. And he didn't just say it, he
went out and explained it and challenged others to do
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We need people to do that. Yes, all over the
country in a big way.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Absolutely yes. And you look at Robert Kraft with Columbia.
You look at Bill Ackman with Harvard. Bill Ackman played
a pivotal role in Claudine Gay Stepping Down.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You look at Mark.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Rowan with Penn, Mark played a pivotal role. These are
all very, very successful leaders in business who've been massive, massive,
multimillion dollar donors to these universities, who've taken leading roles
speaking out and saying what is happening is disgraceful. The
anti Semitism, the radicalism that you are allowing, the DEI oppression.
(44:08):
And by the way, this anti semitism is the fruit
of DEI. The introvers they don't know what de I
stands for, explain that it is diversity, equity and inclusion,
and it is the vehicle within universities where they teach
this nonsense. They teach this racism, They teach that Jews
are oppressors and Palestinians are victims. Look, here's an illustration
(44:29):
and let's play this as our final clip. Ilhan Omar
talking about the protest.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Give a listen, how do.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
You think this will translate to the Jewish students who
are facing anti semitism here on capitalists?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
So I actually met a lot of Jewish students that.
Speaker 8 (44:42):
Are in the encampmets, and I think it is really
unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that all
Jewish kids should be kept safe and that we should
not have to tolerate anti Semitism or bigotry for all
Jewish students. Whether they are progenocide or anti genocide.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
What utter garbage.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Whether they are pro genocide or anti genocide. Understand what
she's saying. If you're not protesting in favor of Hamas,
then you are a pro genocide Jew. Now, Israel is
not remotely committing genocide. In fact, they go to extraordinary
lengths to avoid civilian casualties. They are killing terrorists. Do
(45:29):
you know who is trying to commit genocide?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Hamas?
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Hamas when they entered on October seventh, they were only
murdering Jews. They were looking for Jews. They were murdering
them because they are Jews. That is genocide. When you
were trying to wipe out a people.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
That market attacks the other day, they weren't targeting anyone building.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
They were just targeting any part of Israel, any Jew.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Like we started off with a Columbia organizer, he wants
to kill Zionis, by which he means Jews. She's saying,
and this is where the left it is Orwellian, they
turn things upside down. You know who is pro genocide Hamas?
The same Hamas she supports, the same Hamas the protesters support.
You know who is anti genocide Israel? Israel has tried
(46:15):
to save the lives of civilians. Hamas is also ironically
pro Palestinian genocide. Why because they put Palestinian civilians in
harm's way and they want them to die because they
know the useful idiots will use the deaths of those
Palestinian civilians to attack Israel. That is the sad reality
(46:37):
of cultural Marxism. This is the fruits of this poison
that has taken over our institutions.
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